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- Опубликовано: 19 фев 2019
- Uncle gives a piece of his mind to Dutch.
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“Put me out of my majesty, your misery.”
A poet for the ages.
Gotta give credit where credit's due, Uncle has some massive brass balls.
"Away with you!" lol
It reminds me of Randy Marsh from South Park..
"What seems to be the officer, problem?"
@@shadysam7161 it's quite a clever comeback all things considered
@@Soulslayer612 giving credit to the "Uncle is Red" theory - I think Uncle has the biggest balls there (also shown in RDR when he fights for the ranch), and is actually one of the more intelligent of the group. I think, as Dutch says, his "jester" persona is just that - a persona. I think Dutch either knows Uncles past, or is kinda clued into the fact that Uncle hasn't been the way he is, and survived for so long, without knowing a thing or two about staying alive.
The way Dutch attempts to laugh it off shows how he knows Uncle is right.
True so true
I mean, uncle is right, but if he has a problem with Dutch and how he runs the gang, then leave, because he sure ain’t pulling his weight no how.
Boston Towny4life well it’s obvious what happens to both of them haha
I rather thought that that laugh was the real nature of Dutch.
@@bostontowny4life744 that's exactly what he did, actually
It’s funny that Dutch calls uncle a court jester… in Shakespeare the jester, or “fool” characters typically see through the drama unfolding in the play and speaks directly to the reader about the mistakes the other characters are making. So the fool is actually the wisest character, King Lear is probably the best example of this.
This should have way more likes tbh. Smart
It takes one to know one, I guess. Funny how Dutch and Uncle seem to have their roles reversed at times
RDR2 takes inspiration from Shakespeare writing, and even has mission names referencing his works.
How'd you know that??
@@Kamal_AL-Hinai You’re on RUclips. On the internet. You literally have all the world’s history and knowledge at your fingertips. He knows it because he either studied it in school or chose to learn it with the endless resources at our disposal.
"He's the best man we know... And even he is lost" Is such a hard line
greatest *
I replayed the clip before the punchline. It just hit me so much harder, I thought Uncle was still blinded then he agrees that Ole Dutch is gone
there goes the greatest man we know*
@@brandonpoley it's not that important
@@rohanlanda it's not that important
Holy shit, the tension when Dutch says "I'd like to kill you."
You can tell that in that brief moment, Dutch had truly been offended by Uncle and wanted to hurt him for it. He then quickly realizes that he's got an image to protect, and rebounds to save face. Brilliant writing and acting for such a small, optional scene.
was it to save face or was it bcuase he realized that would be going too far? its hard to say with dutch but as the game went on he became increasingly desperate.
I agree with Arthur and John's interpretation: Dutch was always a bastard, just like Colm except with a messiah complex.
@@UkuleleAversion I disagree. Colm was a sadist as far as we could tell, whereas Dutch really didn't "enjoy" killing people at first - he just saw it as a necessity in certain situations. It's clear that he really did consider the gang as family but as his messiah complex started to "kick in" due to stress or personal flaw, he started to go back on every value he held. God, thats what I loved about this game - every character was understandably flawed yet believably human. And besides all that, all the systems and mechanics work phenomenally. True masterpiece.
Malik Chakib what? You fuck up?
Yeah. His mask slips.
Uncle: "I was thinking."
Arthur: "Does it pay well?"
Uncle: "Eventually."
HeadHusky It sure did...
So whilst the rest of us are out here stealing, killing, lying, *you*, get to think all day?
Dutch: no
"Lizards have hearts." lol
Can someone fill me in, I've completed the story twice and I still don't get it
It's crazy how the writing is so fucking good for a damn random camp event
Ah yes, the ability to write, so fucking crazy.
Anybody can flex those finger muscles to type words, one who is certainly not an asshole. But if it's so easy, why aren't YOU writing scripts for the industry and creating some of the most compelling video game characters in history?
@@robertstaples3256 I'm sorry, I really am, but I just can't stand it when these rdr2 fans act like they've never seen a game before, I like rdr2, but shit.
@@robertstaples3256 Ah yes, the classic "Can't give critisicm without experience" 3rd grade bullshit. Grow up, Robert Staples.
@@whichsherice Ya know I would've thought you were an asshole but your name clearly states you're not so I trust that you're not an asshole
What scares me is that uncle is really wise in reality but his goofiness is often all that people see. Lazy, goofy, but somehow kind of smart and very wise
alot of the wise people realise that its better to be happy then to be like Dutch
@@lewanbroski504 Well, I guess that's the thing about drunks. They have very few inhibitions so they'll often just say whatever they want. Most of the time it's sad, a lot of it is funny, but sometimes they give you the realest shit you've ever heard.
@@mr.merchandise4350 true I guess but I wouldn't state Uncle as a drunk he's just an old dude that doesn't want to do any work has lived a whole life and just wants to help out the way he can
He's Red Harlow I'm am of 100% certainty.
@@kylesommees6401 it wouldn't make sense timeline wise plus it's confirmed Red Harlow is just a folk tale in the rdr universe
*Gang members having deep conversations and insulting each other
Arthur: Okay, I’ll catch you later then...
Alright, I won’t keep ya.
Arthur turned out to be the deepest thinker of all of them.
Daniel Dickson yeah his journal says that
Lol
Okay, Arthur
Dutch: So I just read something....
Uncle: I’m about to end this mans whole career
Hahahah
LMAO
😂😂😂
Milton: What career?
@@centralstar7168 Oh shit, PInkerton! *fires blindly*
“I don’t quite get it.”
Ironically, that line shows how Bill wasn’t as much of a fool as the gang thought.
Yep. He didn't just gobble it up.
I thought that was like bill saying "Idk what your saying Dutch but ima follow you" idkkk
I thought it was ironic sense Bill would become a leader of his own gang.
The first key to wisdom is knowing that you don't understand.
Even I can tell you that Evelyn Miller is a windbag and is full of bullshit.
I like how this scene shows Uncle’s actual intelligence. On paper you might think he’s an uneducated hobo but in this scene you see he’s actually kind of smart, it’s just that he’s lazy.
He’s not lazy. He’s got lumbago
He’s not lazy he just doesn’t like to work
He's not old. He just doesn't like to be young
Well he is smart
He outlived all of them
He's not stupid. He just doesn't like to be smart.
"Put me out of my majesty, your misery" is such a good comeback, goddamn
I dont get it
@@kaydenlewis9246 normally it would be "put me of my misery, your majesty" but here Uncle implicates that he is the superior one
I’m gonna start using this tbh
Yes. The sign of a good comeback is when the other guy just laughs at how brilliant it is, like Dutch does here.
No it’s not meant to be a good insult but actually a comedic self deprecating defusal insult.
Comedic self deprecating: saying the line wrong implying he’s stupid and also under him which is actually a perfectly apt descriptive theatric action on how Dutch sees him and most the gang (Stupid) and wants them to act (subservient)
Defusal insult: by going for such a shameful non confrontational route even if it is a dramatic play with a tone, makes it impossible for Dutch to maintain his composure without seeming awkward, and at this point you can tell uncle was temporarily frightened and that’s why he chose to essentially bow his head(while also spitting on his shoes, metaphorically ofcs) by also playing into what he was saying before hand about him wanting to be a king ruling over his knights which of course implies the gang is lesser and less important which is why not only his direct call out was so accurate but him doing this little play calls out and reinforces the point he was making even inside this situation. Dutch realizing this laughs it off choosing to be an actor opposed to an executioner. His only two modes (Calls John his son after leaving him, leaving Arthur to die than denying it, giving a good reason on why to attack Bronte than murders him for no reason etc) until Arthur takes away his name by making Dutch question Micah and thusly all his actions and ofc thusly himself as awhole, breaking the mask and red dead redemption marking the executioner (Dutch dies killing himself as his redemption due the regret held since he figured out how bad Michah tricked him and blaming himself like he was always a monster not just a flawed man who lost himself, as uncle alludes to here, they’re all lost but Dutch punishes everyone for it and then damns himself the worst by accepting it as his new name)
But no the intelligence is in the structure and timing he brings it up, confronting, getting shut down, calling his attempt to shut you down as direct proof of your previous statement checkmating him into peaceful relations as continuing trying to shut him down would just greatly exaggerate his point but Dutch salvages this little slip of the mask by playing with the joke despite how seriously his pride was hurt, I don’t think he wanted to kill him I think he simply was tryna intimidate him while also sounding dramatic just in cases where he does kill people it’s simply his stage character getting more and more dramatic until he doesn’t even fit into the rest of the story. A king in a story of knights, pretending to be there equal but flaunting his wealth(look at his clothes compared to uncles) and influence (do I really need to explain look at his body language ,speech, confident philosophy he believes they’ll care for or understand despite him, himself not understanding it truly and just thinking he does.) and still commanding them despite losing his throne long ago. That’s why this is a good comeback, not bc he’s calling himself majesty no, that was made to make him sound dumb and peasant like. Acting like how everything else in the situation feels or how he feels Dutch sees it and he isn’t wrong in the slightest. Also it scares Dutch off by either making him go with the joke or be serious like a king. He only let him go because he was funny and smart, like a king to a rude jester(they were ordered to be rude to get a point across without upsetting the king enough to get him killed and making the people like him enough to be a proper deterrent to the king killing him(the other campfire members laughing with him backs this up, this is exactly how this scene played out)
I love how uncle of all people here is the voice of reason
It's because he spends his day thinking.
It’s cause of his limbago
@@JackSpackProductions guess uncle was right
He's very smart but lazy, and care for his family
Along with Hosea
Arthur: “wears the warmest clothes on earth”
The gang members: aren’t you cold in that ?
Yeah it’s so annoying
I swear I didn’t hear it as much on the first play through
@@gpro_1982 its because they updated the game and downgraded it. And now there's loads of bugs.
@@mastermoosic122 ah okay that might explain it. Cheers.
@@gpro_1982 Exactly what I thought after recently playing
I think it’s a new glitch now after a recent update or something
As some people pointed out, Uncle always gave me the feeling of a severely depressed man who saw the worst of the world and is only trying to survive in it as well as he can. His buffoonery and heavy drinking were the way he deal with the depression because at some point, caring and fighting broken him. Uncle never tries to impress anyone or prove nothing to anyone, but he sometimes show his wisdom even if he knows that no one will listen
Well he was all on his own since he was 9, I guess with so much sadness he had went through it just gave our and only happiness was just re-living in him and accepting what he went through. Uncle is a very unique character, I loved the mission where he, Arthur, Charles and Bill and hide in the barn.
And the epilogue story with John, Uncle is golden as all 6 chapters in Red Dead 2.
It's that damn lumbago
He plays the fool so well but when it's important he's always the wisest person in the room
The true Jester spirit
I need more hic uncle Iroh in my life
He's really not that smart. He's a classic "even a fool is right once in a while"
And that's coming from Batman
Well i got LUMBAGO
Uncle is probably among the smartest in the gang. The old, lazy drunk thing is a schtick he sees through Dutch like nobody else and when he stops joking he's actually got some genuine advice. His talk with Pearson reveals a lot about him, he had a rough upbringing and it made him a die hard realist. Uncle knows the world is cruel and that the big speeches and loft ideals are mostly bullshit so he decided his goal was to live a simply and comfortably for as long as long as he's able.
And he did exactly that 👏
And he did exactly that until the moment came to die with a gun in his hand protecting his family. Fuck what a great character
He also saw right through Micah as well. Early on he almost gets into a fight with him.
Yeah Uncle was definitely one of the best characters in the game, too bad everyone treats him like shit
@@mike3x108 He has John and Abigail and Jack so it aint all too bad, he ended up good and even died a heroes death
2:37 This part felt so fkn genuine and real the way they laughed about it and acted. This game is way too good 😭❤️
Yeah it's so realistic because in real life people don't always argue in an aggressive way, sometimes they low key attack each other while disguising it as a joke or just in a really subtle way.
*Micah would never talk to Arthur like that, and here's Uncle dissing a leader of a WHOLE gang while surrounded by them in the camp and he's in his 60's....*
WITH TERMINAL lumbago as well.
Damn cold 🥶
Man Uncle's GOTTA be Red Harlow
What's more telling is that Dutch DOESNT kill him. Just says he wants too
@@believer431Noup and that's a stupid theory 😊
Uncle saw it before everyone else
Lumbago gives him special powers
@Olli K 0.001%
the master is back 9513 are you dumb? It’s 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001
Idiots never pay attention
Uncle might have been a lazy horses ass, but he was no fool.
i think john saw it first, tried to bounce
This is the reason Dutch went insane, his eyes set upon the powerful aura of *Lumbago* for too long and his mind was destroyed
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The reason theres not a second coming is because hes busy perfectly analysing rdr2
This is the moment Dutch became heisenber- wait, that's not right...
Lmao Lumvago
If Uncle got just a little healthier for every time he was threatened, his Lumbago would be cured in a heartbeat
In one mission I had to rob a bank with Charles and Uncle, but it was early morning and Uncle went to the heist in his onesie xD
That’s what you call dedication 😂
OH MY GOD SAME
Lol
Lord have mercy I’ve never gotten him to do that during that mission. That’s hilarious
2:18 when hearing Dutch do that laugh was low key very terrifying. That’s the laugh you hear before you get shot. 😳
He was about to get shot. if he did shoot uncle he would have about 35 bullets in him from solely Arthur or at least my Arthur
Uncle is one of the top five G.O.A.T.
He, Charles, Lenny, Arthur and Hosea are in the lead of Dutch.
Obviously not, since Dutch backed down from a tired old drunkard.
When you want to kill someone you just do it. That poseur tough-guy laugh and empty threat is the nervous twitch of a pretentious jackass who always gets someone else to do his dirty work for him. Dutch is a coward in the worst ways.
Dutch would never shoot a gang member just because they got in a little fight he would only shoot someone if they betray the gang
@@Xirenx Like Micah.
I like how the first clip really shows the contrast in thinking. In one, bill listens to Dutch’s ideas from the book and doesn’t understand, letting Dutch feel that “inner king” . But when he try’s that in front uncle, and he gets called out by someone he didn’t expect, Dutch felt like he lost his grip and almost showed his true colors
Super analysis. RDR2 should be a English literature study... So amazing.
Yes, sir. The person that made the video is really smart for adding that first part, and kudos to you for this analysis.
@@lionelzisengwe9607 couldn't have said it better myself...
Dutch would always lash out on people that he thinks are undermining his authority. He gets really pissed off if someone even slightly doubts him, also at the start of the Cornwall mission, Hosea says something about how he ain’t trying to undermine his authority, as if he has lashed about that at him before
dutch is a textbook narcissist.
he reminds me of a cult leader
“Put me out of my majesty, your misery.”
2:35
I commented it 3 months ago in a video about the same interaction in camp, and got 2.5k likes, enjoy the likes Boah because I know they’re coming
@@user-tp5kv4nz6l why do RUclips commenters only care about likes you guys are so sad
Fran Fountain well I’m not a ”RUclips commenter” but I wrote it and it just happened by it self, it’s funny so ppl like it I don’t get the problem
@@franfountain7278You guys are cute af.
jesus the tension when dutch is pissed at uncle is actually terrifying for a moment.
considering dutch's behavior as the game progresses, i believe he was telling the truth when he said he wanted to kill uncle.
@@fwoqma
No not really
This was way before he went insane
He was mostly likely doing the guy thing to see if his friend get scared lol
@@Palestine4Ever169 he was insane from the beginning bro. He's a manipulative bipolar maniac.
@@Jake-rj6ql
Not really bro he went insane when Hosea died
@@Palestine4Ever169 exactly
This exchange of dialogue is probably the best I've ever seen in any game, and it ain't even a cutscene. Just the way Uncle is able to stand up to Dutch, then defuse Dutch's anger with a clever come back, and Dutch just playfully shouting, "away with you!" I couldn't stop smiling. It would make anyone who saw it for the first time realize that maybe they should spend a little more time in camp to see what they're missing.
Dutch got outsmarted by a tired old drunkard - and deep down he knew it. It really illustrates what an empty piece of crap Dutch really was.
I’m about to go back and play and sit around and listen to every bit of conversation holy crap. I missed so much.
It almost seems like it wasn’t scripted
@@GLKHD I think r/debreasting or r/sounding more suits people of your attitude...
@@GLKHDDon't you dare disrespect Zyzz by having him as your pfp and making these L takes...
Uncle was never lost like the others. He always knew right where he stood: himself, Dutch, and lumbago.
damn a year and no replies
I wish the game never ended😣
It's a slow and painful death john have some pity😂
@@AndT101 I wish arthur could have lived. So sad, at least he died watching the sunset.
@@hippytrippyjonboy828 Sunrise*
Damn, Uncle was right about Dutch.
Right about what
1:56
That's part of why they all follow Dutch though.. Dutch was a revolutionary type and they were all lost souls looking for a better dream
Not revolutionary, but regressive. He sees a world in flux, rails against it and decides that his way of life is the only way of life. The only real way of life. A way of life that is unsustainable and on the brink of disappearing. But rather than see the folly of trying to rigidly remain in how things are, he reads a subversive book about how things are terrible-awful.
And because Dutch can't let go and he's got a God/King-complex, he leads those that look up to him to their end.
They used to follow him because he was clever. A good leader. Someone with a plan. But now he's running out of tricks because the world advanced beyond his know-how.
@@TheArrowsPath i agree with most of that but Dutch was a revolutionary in the Robin Hood sense, in the people are equal, take from the rich and give to the poor, personal honor code outside of society bit.
I would also disagree with their lifestyle not being sustainable. It was 100% sustainable but it was outdated through societal change
1:35 I love the body language that modern games can display. How Dutch raises his hands ready to give another one of his rehearsed speeches, and shows annoyance that Uncle keeps interrupting him.
Oh wow nice catch!
Its motion capture really not that surprising
@@lettucearsebiscuits8375Yeah and that motion capture can let the actors truly capture their character with every tiny motion and facial expression they see fit, I think it’s really cool that we can translate real actors mannerisms and motions and project them directly into the game.
@@lettucearsebiscuits8375 it was still good for the scene. It shows how much dutch likes to get in character rather than just saying whats on his mind.
The fact Uncle was the one who always seemed like the reasonable one and the fact in the end he died trying to protect John and his family while Dutch died being a fool in the end of it all, and the fact Uncle didn't give no shit whether he was considered lazy while Dutch cared about being the high and mighty one who tried getting his way secretly. Also can't forget Uncle outlived Dutch.
And there are theories about uncle being a more grounded and realistic version of Red Harlow
Uncle didn't Dodge death. Dutch dodged death he was about to mess with One Shot Kid.
Big boi I swear uncle is so strong his dialogue alone is enough to kill someone
Big boi frankly the fact uncle watches johns house all that time while he hunts down the gang shows how true he is as a killer because the skinners and other gangs live right up the street from Johns house in both games
the skinners wasn't in rdr1 tho
Trevor Walsh Charles says during a mission while riding that the skinners move from place to place and that here is where they was then
@@jeffreymorris3002 dont tell me what's in rdr1 boy I own the fucking game
The Virgin Dutch vs The Chad Uncle
dutch had 3 women imagine how much uncle had...
Ercan Teke I’d imagine Uncle had more than enough women after all he was known as the One Shot Kid. :)
-Lumbago -
Goddamit
Ix skill 97 ix
How do you think he got lumbago? Destroyed his back from getting so much coochie😂
@@ercanteke7597 In RDR1 John states that Uncle is problably the father of a lot of people and maybe even his real uncle so... Just let that sink in.
The jester symbolism is really fitting to Uncle. In actuality, a jester was an important role to the king- they were the one person who could really talk back without recourse. I wish there were more times Uncle filled this role, because it really changes how you see him as a character.
Exactly. Even the jester wasnt supposed to jest about specific topics. Dutch and Uncle are like a microcosm of todays media with censorship and the politically charged entertainment industry. At least in this interaction.
Socially speaking, Uncle actually seems very intelligent, he actually understands how Dutch thinks and his personality like we see here, as well as everyone else's, plus he also survived for a long ass time for an outlaw and for the most part he didn't have to find his wa out of trouble cuz he was real good at reading the situation and avoiding them
I LOVE this last point! Honestly the gang comes down on Uncle so much for being lazy and, admittedly he is, but if you were an old man watching the gang go through bad heist after bad heist would you want to leave camp? And risk dying or arrest? At his age? I wouldn't.
It's probably why he left at the end too because he knew Dutch would've pushed him into a job like a pawn on the chessboard. Following that analogy he wasn't looking to be sacrificed to buy the gang another week to make another dumb mistake and make Dutch more of an outlaw messaiah than he already believed he was. Uncle most certainly left because he knew it was only a matter of time before either Dutch got killed or Dutch got him killed.
He’s an old man in a profession that where most die young- don’t underestimate him because of his “buffoonery” or “laziness”. Uncle was probably more dangerous than Arthur and John put together back in his time. He’s just seen it all and knows how it will end for all of them.
He reminds me of Uncle Iroh from Avatar the last airbender. They seem like lazy old men that dont have much to contribute besides amusement, but they withold their power/smarts.
@@justinwinn01 or The Ancient One from the 2003 TMNT series, initially Leo thinks he's just some random crazy old man but he shows real wisdom and Leo eventually realizes the truth.
Uncle: "I dont need to read, it pollutes the mind!"
all the kids playing this game: "Yeah, tell him Uncle!"
young people bad
Kids wouldn't get past the prologue
@@frozenduck74 there are small exceptions like everything else in life
Nah, I think you underestimate kids.
@@thesouthfacee they found ancient Greek texts with people talking about the youth becoming stupider and degenerates 😂
Every older generation thinks they're superior. But in reality, it's the youth that carries the torch and brings progress
This one of those games where I never want it to end
As long as you don't do the Saint-Denis heist..
Seeing Sean’s head explode in chapter 3 still hurts.
As long as you don't rescue Micah from jail
Tuberculosis: "...Hey."
i have a different view of red dead 1 after i played red dead 2
The fact that Uncle isnt afraid of Dutch says alot.
The fact his hand is burned, and he carries around a red bandana...
The fact he admits his parents died when he was aged nine, Obviously the best gunslinger in the west.
Had he not been struck by crippling lumbago, he could've handled the Pinkertons and Army all on his lonesome.
Red Harlow has blue eyes and scars on the face, he was born in 1851 and lost his parents at age 14. Uncle has brown eyes, no scars, lost his parents at age 9 and he's born in 1849. There are too many things that don't match, but in my opinion the similarities are a calculated move by Rockstar to make people wonder if Uncle could really be Red Harlow. We also know that Red Harlow is considered a sort of Legend in the Red Dead Redemption universe, I dont remember if it was Redemption 1 or 2, but you can talk to a stranger in a campfire that tells you about the legend of the gunslinger. He would have had a Famous Gunslingers Card if he was a real character, but I think he's just a legend in Redemption's universe.
@julian marx he invented one of the most advanced things for his time.... but couldn't find a cure for Lumbago...
@@MC-zi9rf truly one of the diseases of all time
@@MC-zi9rf Rockstar said that Red Dead Revolver is part canon, sorta, so it's possible that Red Harlow is a reason person in the Red Dead universe and Uncle is him
This shows how Smart Uncle actually is. He loved Dutch and the charismatic leader he was but he wasnt completely blinded by loyalty to not call out his hypocrisy early on.
It makes it even that most people at first glance will tell this as uncle being silly and this being a fun encounter, but once you’ve beaten chapter 6 and knows what happens you can see the silent nuances
Uncle probably met a lot of men like Dutch in his career.
Uncle says it at the end. He respects Dutch but he says he's lost, like the rest of them. A man who claims to hate "Kings" in all their forms who acts like a king.
Funny enough, Dutch became Miserable and in turn lost his spot as a leader. I guess Misery really did put Dutch out of his “Majesty”.
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damn so thats what that line meant. W O W
🤯
Eh, it was more paranoia, stress, and pride that ruined Dutch. No matter how much he tried, something always fucked up and pushed them all further away from their dream, and the pressure to maintain control and keep everyone safe as an army of agents and soldiers were closing in was probably intense, and it took its toll on Dutch. He probably did feel miserable towards the end, but only after he realized he let his other emotions get the better of him, and it cost him everything he ever wanted and fought for.
K-Blue Dutch was always a sociopath. All the deaths and failures around him only broke his image but not himself. I genuinely think Dutch was never going to follow through with the whole Tahiti thing he just wants an excuse to keep robbing and have people like Arthur do his bidding to stay in charge
It's amazing how this is cutscene level quality animation for other games but here it's for something that 99% of players will never even see
Idk about a whole 99% c'mon
@@majik5194 I mean even the little interactions that don't pause gameplay feel more real and like better enacted cutscenes than most games for sure, I don't know about 99percent cause there's a lot of games, but RDR2 is the first game Ive played where NPC feel really real.
I never saw this cutscene in my first play through, but I really want to
@@Domisake I think what sets it appart from all other games is that in this world you feel like the NPCs actually see what you do and register it as you do it. So they feel like living people instead of lifeless robots doing 3 things no matter what you do.
@@Domisake he means that 99% of people who play this game will propably never see this "cutscene" not that it's better then 99% of games
“This is the age of being lost.”
What uncle said was actual kinda deep.
Also very true of the late 19th century.
still holds true to our era
Uncle is honestly one of my favourite characters. I feel many gloss over that he really did help push John to be a better man in the epilogue. Oddly enough he’s sort of the antithesis of Dutch, his carefree attitude and simplistic wisdom plays against Dutch’s convoluted ‘wisdom’.
All the dialogue in this game has deep meaning that even the player can learn from
ruclips.net/video/Aktk6DoTGt0/видео.html
yes... very deep indeed
I forced my coworker to play it and told him to interact with the camp. He now understands that if he has nothing interesting to say he should walk away like Arthur. “Guess I’ll catch you later”
Dutch: So I read something in a book.
Uncle: *Peace was never an option*
to be fair, it does get annoying every time he rants about these books. which is why its satisfying to hear lenny and uncle call him out on reading that junk.
So this makes me think that uncle wasn’t really lazy he just didn’t like the direction the gang was going so he didn’t contribute
No. He was lazy
@@johnLennon255 he was both. and i dont blame em. uncle is a retired veteran bro, let that sink in. he has more knowledge and experience than the entire gang put together, he is able to hold his own amongst men who are 3 decades younger than him, and he realised the purpose of the gang was useless.
so he was both lazy and he didnt like the direction the gang was going .
@@deathrager2404
No, he had Lumbago. It’s very serious.
@@domtartamella Yawn.
@@balabanasireti L U M B A G O
Every one of uncle’s words in this scene is carefully measured. His line about reading polluting the mind is a damn near quote of Socrates and every action he takes has plausible deniability baked into it through his foolish affect
underrated comment, you get uncles genius, that lumbago ain't no joke
Interesting the Uncle is also very well read, but he doesn’t go waving it around as a sign of sophistication like Dutch does.
He quotes Socrates to prove a point, as opposed to Dutch who does it to prove he’s read Socrates.
@@fredericksmith7942Very astute observation, that's a very subtle yet very distinct difference.
This is what happens when the Virgin sociopath goes up against the Chad lumbago user.
@Olli K t. teenager
Olli K Micah plays that manipulation game that sociopaths do, and Dutch disregards human life so yeah he's more psychopath
tf is a lumbago “user”
Danile White it’s his stand
"Chad'' the alt-right term for übermensch. *Facepalm*
2:43 you guys already know as soon as Dutch turned around his face went emotionless.
Dekuscrubbb lmao i totally just pictured that.
😆 -> 😐😑😐
Muttering to himself: “He has common sense! HE HAS COMMON SENSE!!!”
Joker mode
Yeah. He’s a fucking psycho. I can’t believe people find him likable.
I find it amazing that Dutch refers to Uncle as a Court Jester in this scene. In a lot of fiction, this Court Jester is the only one to really hold a mirror to the king and show him how he really is. And, just like a few interpretations of those roles, said king sometimes gets enraged by the truth and wants to kill the jester.
Got this interaction last night and I couldn’t believe I’d never seen this before. I was kinda stunned how he spoke to Dutch and how he sees right through his whole persona
1:26 I love how Hosea just sits there and do nothing when Dutch getting chewed by Uncle.
That's what I noticed with these campfire chats, only one or two people talk the rest just keep there mouth shut
@@davidspooner4582 yet when you talk shit to the gang they'll eventually retaliate
Hosea makes his feelings known in like chapter 3. Seems like he's only there because there's nowhere else for him left. He's an old man, his wife is dead, the camp is the only family he has left, even if they're a bunch of degenerate idiots.
@Игорь Чернышов Hosea definitely had his own problems with Dutch. I think Hosea would have been a better leader.
You know what's convenient. That everyone who would have sided with Arthur died before the confrontation and that annoys me.
Uncle it's lazy as much as smart, I love him.
John marston doesn’t think that
John marston?
Jim milton?
You ain’t jimmy Milton?
John Jim
Little Johnny marston
Or is it the true one and only
Rip van winkle
Man this spelling
yeety boi me?
Johnny McNamara I think you mean that backwards. He’s as smart as he is lazy
Nice profile pic
When Dutch said to bill he'll understand the kingship thing, he was right, just a couple of years later bill is like a king with his own gang, fort and more
"Put me put of my majesty you misery" Uncle is a genius
Dutch:"I hAve A PLaN!"
Uncle:"I hAvE *LuMBaGo* "
give this clout 😂
Oh look a original lumbago joke! And a cringe lit fam
😂👌💯Emoji user commented on it!
@@trublood6410 "i played monster hunter im better than all of you haha cringey fuckers"
Arthur: "I've got TB."
@@JayF2912 wtf has monster hunter got to do with anything lul
The lumbago gave uncle future vision
Uncle actually showed how much of a badass he is in this clip. The man is basically an old wizard, he outlives the entire gang
Dutch is exactly like my dad. Whenever he reads something interesting he has the unending desire to educate everyone around him of what he read.
Not gonna lie when I read the first sentence I thought this comment was gonna go to a MICH darker place lmao.
“Put me out of my majesty, your misery” , that’s pretty cold when you think about it
fuck you micah
Fuck you micah
Fuck you micah
Damn. I mean, I hate Micah as much as the next guy, but still.
Also, psst... I hate Micah
I don’t understand it. someone help me lol
You cant be as old as uncle on the frontier and not be a genius survivalist.
Except he wasn’t on the frontier. He kinda just tagged along.
@@LegendInThaMakin alot of gang members die while tagging along too, he didn't. Play the red dead redemption 1 he's still kicking, definitely tough
John Nelson he ain’t do shit in rdr2 but help John build a house at the end and even then he ain’t do shit
@@LegendInThaMakin Exactly, it's good to have lumbago
@@LegendInThaMakin that's enuf. Survival instinct.
"Put me out of my majesty your misery" Haha. You could tell Dutch was losing it at Colter. I'm on my umpteenth playthrough now and really taking time in camp listening and watching the other camp members. Dutch is certainly "gone my friend"
“This is the age of being lost”
Damn that’s heavy now
If I didn’t have lumbago Dutch would’ve been dead already
There’s a reason they used to call you the one shot kid after all
Better watch yourself old man.....
Perkaholic best gobble gum
Get em red harlow!!!
Uncle (rdr) vs uncle joe (resident evil 7) who wins?
Some say the Lumbago is the path to abilities some find... unnatural
mccabber24 Darth Uncle The Wise
@KitchensAreHot not from a pinkerton!
AAHHH, MASTER KENOBI *COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH*
SORRY, I HAVE TUBERCULOSIS MASTER KENOBI
mccabber24 is it possible to learn this power
Yes master sheev
"Reading pollutes the mind" - Said the game that is basically a playable novel masterpiece that made me cry like a little girl.
That’s part of what makes this game so special, so much skill and effort put into events and dialog that the player could never witness. I love how rockstar treated the player with respect and freedom, regardless if they would “notice all their awesome writing”. Most games hold your hand and lead you to everything so you dare not miss all their clever ideas. It’s an insecure way to design games. Red Dead fills the world with content created with care but leaves it up to the player to discover it by being curious and taking time to savor every bite of this game world.
Its easy to pick on the elderly, Its easy but it aint dignified.
Did ya find Gavin?
@@BUCKETHEADache he's not in the game it's been confirmed
@@skxlter5747 rdr3 u play as Gavin
Did you find Gavin
@@skxlter5747 r/whoosh
Dutch does not like his subordinates questioning him and especially mocking him. At 2:17 Dutch was very pissed at Uncle and meant what he said. Dutch ultimately backed off though cause he knows what that would do to his image and would look very bad to the rest of the gang if he did something to Uncle, especially over something as trivial as this.
He always despised it greatly, but in the early parts of the game he kept that hidden but a few rare times his mask would slip like here with Uncle. In the later stages of the game he became undone and stopped hiding it from the others, which only made some of the others question him more.
Maybe it was just random people sitting at the camp fire but I also believe he didn’t do anything because Hosea was sitting there the entire time
If you know the history of Dutch and the fact he literally saved people’s lives even John’s life in the end. It is not as simple as what you are saying
@ahmad reza You’ve fallen for Dutch’s silver tongue.
@@erikbouma9408 Dutch was gonna leave John to die, it was Arthur who really saved him.
@@erikbouma9408 he also left john to die and left arthur to die twice.
That Dutch laugh before he tells Uncle he wants to kill him lmao
That moment where he’s quoting miller to his gang says a lot about Dutches character and his relationship with them. He’s quoting a line from (as Lennnneyyyy described him) a intellectual who says a lot of fanciful words without saying much new, about how you need to determine your own destiny or have others determine it for you, to people that aren’t on his level intellectually so he can feel like a prophet guiding his flock of country bumpkins essentially contradicting the message he’s espousing. You can see he pleasure he gets saying this fanciful stuff and not having Bill understand it, because having someone like Lenny around to understand it and engage and challenge him intellectually makes him defensive.
I like how ALL of these videos always include the awkward parting line from Arthur.
Ok catch ya later then!
You're a goood boy
Don’t mean to disturb ya!
Well, I should get back to it
There should really be something else that tells you that you’ve exhausted the dialog
I love how dutch was serious about killing him but then they laughed it off
He was known as the one shot kid when he was younger never defeated in a duel
There’s a reason why everyone lets Uncle get away with always being half drunk and lazy.
@@eds1942 Its called being in red dead redemption 1
@@DJC_2003 Well... every ALIVE gunslinger is never defeated in a duel.
@@dr.embersfield1551 you can survive a gunshot
1:05 "you will, son. You will."
Bill becomes gang leader in the first RDR.
Honestly, this makes me love Uncle more than I already did. After seeing the ending of the game it makes me feel like Uncle was a lot smarter than people gave him credit for and as a comment thread here mentions his thinking even paid off.
This is perhaps the most awesome hidden scene I've ever seen. Whenever I saw Uncle in the camp, I always thought of him as this annoying idiot who never really contributed anything, and since Arthur always had disdain towards him, I believed he was just there to enjoy the ride. But after seeing this hidden dialogue, which is amazing by the way, I finally understand that underneath that lazy exterior is an extremely wise, knowledgeable man who understands how his peers think and the struggles they are going through. In this sense, he is even wiser than Hosea (who didn't intervene on Dutch's behalf, indicating that he believed what Uncle said was correct). Wish we saw some better interactions with Uncle.
“I don’t read, it pollutes the mind”
That’s the wise man you’re talking about?
@@LegendInThaMakin XD Fair point, he's an idiot in many regards, but still.
Cisco Soto Don’t you trash on Uncle, Uncle a beast. Not only does he have L U M B A G O, everyone’s always trashing on him because of it. But does he get mad? No he keeps being his friendly and wise self.
@@LegendInThaMakin To be fair you don't need to be book smart to be worldly wise.
@@marauderhealth9639 Indeed, Wisdom is born from experience, not from merely reading a book. We don't know much of Uncle's history, in fact, for all we know he didn't live jackshit and he's talking out of his ass or maybe he did live a great deal and he hides his wisdom because he knows that people don't take kindly to being called out.
Abigail: Hey John, here's your son Jack
John: ok then, I'll leave you to it
I don't know why, but when Uncle started to challenge Dutch I legitimately felt a bit nervous. Dutch generally makes me uneasy sometimes when I'm just walking around camp. I guess because I know where it's headed for him. What he's capable of.
At any given point we see him in RDR2, he's already shot an innocent woman in the head.
When I played RDR I always felt like Uncle was a lazy layabout (true on the surface I suppose) but after playing RDR2 I got the feeling he was more dangerous and lethal than what he conveyed. It's subtle hints of course, but I felt there was always a hint of truth to his stories. Like he's seen some shit in his life but he doesn't let it get him down. As far as being a layabout, that's true and all but he can fight when a fight is needed. His last stand with John is evidence of that.
Throughout myth, legend, and literature, the fools are always the wisest in the end. Rockstar knows how to write characters.
Not really, the republican party is full of fools, and they'll remain fools
@@sociallyineptspider-man2366 they're talking about the roles that 'fools' play in fiction
They suck at writing villains, they're always comically over the top evil to the point where I like them more than the "good" guys.
@@randystabbage4821
is this about Rockstar villain or the Republican?
@Janus Ceasar Both are more likeable than the alternative
Nobody:
Arthur: Okay I’ll catch you later then 😆😆😭
Best one of these hahaha
The best part is you can literally hear Arthur saying it just by reading the line lmao
Anyway, I won't disturb you
PassTha STIXX he really did catch us later😢
Always good to see you
As soon as uncle interrupted him the second time he put his hands on his six shooters.
It's true that the only person in their group who is not lost is Uncle. He knows what he wants, and he takes it. Being simple and wanting for less is sometimes the only way towards happiness.
“Put me out of my majesty, your misery.”
That was great
When Dutch walked away then came back laughing creepy scared my deepest darkest soul..
Hand it over
That thing
Your **** ****
Then your soul is not that dark. Thats a very good thing.
And Hosea's sitting there watching Uncle do the lecturing.
…this got me thinking that Uncle may actually be the smartest man that was in the gang. He didn't have to do much and basically got free healthcare, whiskey, food, parties and other supplies. He got friends to sit with the campfire at. He knew just like Hosea that Dutch was crazy from the start and he left when the gang was getting hot, miserable and deadly. He knew Micah for his bullshit, knew Bill was dumb but was still sympathetic and eventually ended up living as the grandpa in a family with the Marstons until his fate struck but still died honorably protecting them. Everybody sees Hosea as the wise one and he sure was but everybody overlooks how Uncle was so smart that he outlived the gang and 5 years with the Marstons.
Along with the fact that their exist theories that Uncle may have actually be red Harlow from red dead revolver, the gunslinger who shot the west or at least a more realistic and grounded version of him
@@sahilhossian8212 and those have been ruled false immensely but to anybody who has a heart. Uncle=Red Harlow
@@sahilhossian8212
I mean maybe, but wouldn’t Hosea have recognized him then? It is canon Hosea was saved by Harlow when he was 17 and about to be hanged.
1:58 *I HEARD THAT! I WANT NO SUCH THING.*
Arthur and John: Lmao
Salad calbo
@@Blackout-iz5yqwhat
Can we talk about how uncle dodged death once again 😂
Its from the LuMBAGO
Dutch dodged death, he was messing with the One Shot Kid.
I love how deep and complex rockstar characters are
Uncle at first glance comes across as lazy and cowardly and no one could blame you for thinking that but in reality, in his own way hes actually kind of the bravest and most fearless of the gang . I mean hes literally the only 1 who isnt intimated by Dutch apart from maybe hosea and he definitely challenges Dutch more than anyone else , even the supposed "tough guys " of the group like Arthur, bill and Javier
"Put me out of my majesty, your misery."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Uncle was pretty smart
So sad the lumbago got to him
@@Risico16 Poor Uncle
He was just lazy as hell. I wonder how he ended up with the gang
harold lhedigbo he was Abigail’s pimp
Sometimes he was. We have grown ups in our lives that are complete idiots but every now and then they'll say a couple wise things. I know that for a fact.
That was actually the deepest shit I've ever heard out of Uncle. He's so right, on so many levels.
Gang members talking about serious and private stuff
Arthur: 👁️👄👁️
You could hear Uncle go “ohh” when Dutch heard him, and he still didn’t back down, retorting with a “ya dew 😎” Uncle is an absolute boss lol
Lumbago doesn't slow down his mind one bit.
God bless Uncle
Thats right there is why you are the best Uncle, Lumbago and only
Please consider donating to lumbago research god bless you
Grandmaster Kush lmao
Uncle is a very interesting character he clearly has more common sense than most of the gang and the fact that he managed to live so long shows he must be more capable than people think. On occasion he goes robbing with the rest of the gang and is able to hold his own by keeping up with much younger men. Uncle seems to understand how pointless it all is, yet he is unfazed by it he chooses a life of enjoyment rather than walloing in self pitty like many others do. He reminds me a bit like the donkey from Animal Farm, a elder who understands the way of the world and that change is not always a good thing. I also find it interesting how little is known about his true past, in the days when the west really was wild which makes me think, he's been through some awful things and uses humour and alcohol as a coping mechanism.
Edit: Red Harlow was born in 1851 and RDR2 is set in 1899 making him 48 Uncle is at least 10 years older than that and he has no scars. They are not the same person and have almost no similarities, Red Harlow was a stoic and cold person dead set on revenge for the murder of his family he most likely settled down after the end of the game and became a myth. There's a camp conversation where Uncle reveals that his parents were abusive and he ran away from home at a very young age. I think he became a grifter lying, cheating and using his charm to get out of fights and only fighting when necessary. He is capable and not to be underestimated but he is no Red Harlow.
It’s cuz he’s red Harlow
I would read this, but reading pollutes the mind
@@kids3814 I don’t know anything about RDRevolver. Who was Red Harlow?
@@Saladin0127the main character, and yh he seems to be him. Too many similitudes in between them.
@@ElChamanPirata Except Red Dead Revolver is a completely separate universe.
Dutch: I read a book...
One shot kid: imma end this man's career
“ i can never stay mad at you, but at this moment i want to kill you.” man this game is amazing, you could tell, that dutch definitely got offended and uncle saw right through him