Cold Steel 3 ASSUMES You Played Cold Steel 2 NG+
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- Опубликовано: 3 июн 2019
- Looking forward to Trails of Cold Steel III? Better make sure you know about Cold Steel II's secret New Game+ scene.
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The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel II is a role-playing video game developed by Nihon Falcom. The game is an entry in The Legend of Heroes series, and serves as a direct sequel to Trails of Cold Steel. It was published by the company for PlayStation Vita and PlayStation 3 in Japan in 2014, and was later localized into English and published by Xseed Games in 2016 in North America. A port by Xseed for Microsoft Windows was released in February 2018, while a remastered version for the PlayStation 4 was released in Japan in April 2018, and worldwide in June 2019. A sequel, Trails of Cold Steel III, was released in 2017.
The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel III (英雄伝説 閃の軌跡III Eiyū Densetsu: Sen no Kiseki Surī) is a role-playing video game by developer Nihon Falcom. It is the thirteenth separate entry in the The Legend of Heroes, and a direct sequel to the prior two entries, Trails of Cold Steel and Trails of Cold Steel II. The game was released on the PlayStation 4 video game console in Japan in September 2017, and will be released worldwide in late 2019. A sequel, Trails of Cold Steel IV: The End of Saga, was released in 2018.
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Let me know if you like this sort of video and want more. I've got like 4 terabytes of Cold Steel 1 & 2 footage to work with.
I have a hacked vita with both trails of cold steel 1 and 2 does this mean I will have to get it on ps4 now?
@@thunderanime27 no the story content is the same in both versions. The PS4 version just comes with the DLC, more voiced lines, turbo mode, etc.
@@KillScottKill ok thanks I thought I had to buy the games all over again.
This is great news and thank you and keep these videos coming please
Yes please, it's always nice to see more people talk about kiseki.
Love the way his eyes change shape when he's done goofing around.
Not gonna lie, a video by you autoplaying now kinda hurts. RIP dude.
I recently started CS3 and came across the Thomas Lysander scene pretty early on... I was so confused and assumed it was just something I forgot in CS2... this makes so much sense now!! Wtf Falcom, how sneaky 😭😭
same
yeah.. thats what exactly I'm feeling right now.. I was like "did I miss something?".. haha
Well at the during the end of CS1 and during CS2 they reference a trip that the class made to Ymir... That sequence isnt in CS1, and they reference it more than a few times. From what I read it was an audio drama that has never been released in the US. So... yeah it's kinda interesting when series do stuff like that.
Still it's not nearly as bad as the .Hack series was with things split between anime, manga, games and other media. That series was impossible to get the entire story.
@@Drakenrahll A bit late, but it is actually possible to read the translated transcripts of the audio drama. On CS2's main menu, it gives you an option for recaps, and there's a link to the website on there.
@@tinyprawnie8101 Thanks for the info. If I play the series through again I may well read it. It doesnt seem like anything major or earth shattering happened, but it would be neat to read it at the proper time while playing the games again.
The world building in this game is insane! There are a lot of factions, all vying for control. There are the shadow factions, like the witches, the covert division of the church, ouroboros, the intelligence division - all pulling their strings from the shadows. And then there are the public facing side as well. The bracers, the empire and republic, the nobles and the Liberl monarchy. Amazing stuff!
I still don't really understand why the items you need(+cutscene) are only available in NG+... *sigh* once I noticed how fun it was to talk to every NPC in earlier games I did the same in CS2 and so my first playhtrough became about 200+ hours long and I loved every second of it XD. I knew I might still miss some stuff without a guide but I'm fine with that but when I heard about THIS after my first playthru....
I can say for a 100% certainty I would have found all those items and the cutscene if they were not NG+ exclusive. And that feels a bit with lack of a better word "stupid".
Now excuse me I have work to do in Crossbell.
I'm personally fine with it. I intended to replay both I and II from the very beginning, as well as the sky trilogy. I'm aiming for nightmare completionist so going for NG+ was on my list anyway.
@@evewhoo I did my first playthrough on Nightmare and also like to go completionist in the first playthrough(still need to redo sky tho XD) but I dunno... I don't think major story parts should be hidden away in a 2nd playthrough + I simply prefer finding everything around me on the first playthrough, find some special quotes or some easter egg in NG+ sure that's cool but this is a step too far for most people I think, I believe even Falcom want people to work for it and figure out to see that cutscene in-game but.. what if they prefer playing on NG and not NG+? They could never see this without outside help in that case. I want people to experience that moment but a big part of those people will likely just go start CS3. Anyroad I like doing NG+ in the end but not for story reasons I guess.
Heh, you think that's bad. At least you can find those items relatively easy on your NG+. In Ao there's pieces of important lore that only come up if you do certain very specific things. Like how they only mention the Steel Maiden's possible identity if you manage to beat her. If you lose (which is very easy to do) the mystery remains until Laura mentions it in Cold Steel 2.
First playthrough I have 100 plus hours in both trails 1 and 2
Me too dude
if only there was a website that uploaded these missed cutscenes so i wouldn't have to play the game over again.....
Yoo thank you so much, I would've had no idea this existed. That's absurd to lock something so seemingly important behind NG+, some of these games are too long for me to even want to finish a first time much less a second, that's nuts
RIP Scott. There's still nobody who puts out Trails content to your caliber.
You were a master of your craft and will be missed by any Trails fan who stumbles across your channel.
true his channel still is the go to one for recaps or secrets we mightve missed
Thanks for the video. I did not know that a Ng+ was necesary for a complete story and Lore. I was going to play a second playthrough on PS4 anyway.
I second the motion. I would NEVER have known.
Well... Cold Steel 3 assumes you know not only this scene, but the whole Crossbell Arc. Cold Steel 4 goes even further: You need to play every Trails game before, starting with Trails in the Sky. That's for complete story and lore. You can always play without that knowledge, but you're gonna be partially out of context.
@@Gerhalt2010 who cares.
Really appreciate this video. I too was not aware that the NG+ had exclusive content and wouldn't have thought it would be dumped on you in CS3. It is also good to know that waiting for a PC release of the English version to carry over save data is not really a good plan, at least for the time being.
Hope you'll make more videos.
Thanks, I had no idea this scene even existed lol, good to know
I always knew instructor Thomas wasent a normal man his whole existence always made me uneasy
Damn! Too many good games are coming out this year and I'm playing catch up with older ones from last year! I'll be getting both cold steel 1and 2. I keep hearing just how amazing these games are and I have to see it for myself. So many games.....so little time.
Feeling fortunate to have come across this video just a couple days before starting CS3. Thanks a lot for making this.
Just wanted to say thank you for posting this
I remember my first time playing Cold Steel 2 on the PS3 I had a guide that said that there was bonus stuff to get in NG+ butI never took the opportunity to do so. That cutscene was really interesting especially after finding out about Instructor Thomas. Thanks for the info I missed!
Beautiful stuff that you’re doing
Just finished Cold Steel 2 thanks for making this video saved me a ton of trouble and that scene damn it all makes so much sense now. Now on to the elusive Crossbell Duology.
Wow...i'm glad i found this video. I recently started play CSIII and it would be a bummer to not know about this scene beforehand. Thanks for clearing this out for me :)
Great info. Considering I really want to enjoy the series as a whole, playing another 100+ hours of CS2 for the upcoming CS3 is just a piece of cake to get all the lore. Seeing the Black Records book made me a whole lot motivated. Thanks a bunch, Scott!
Thank you a million for this share! This is my favorite series and though I'm caught up through CSII I had no idea about this scene. This honestly beat playing it again just to catch up, so this was very kind of you to share. And I 100% agree that gating content like this behind a NG+ is a ludicrously terrible design choice. I'd go so far as to argue making a plot point this big an easter egg at all is a bad idea but NG+ is completely unheard of.
Thank you for this. Make me reaaall hype to play the 3rd one
Thanks a lot for this video, i had no idea about this scene. There are so many games i want to play, i almost never play NG+ nowadays, unless the story is radically different in at least parts of it. This scene explains a few things about Thomas...
Good fucking LORD! That was way too important of a scene to be hidden in a freaking NG+ playthrough!
As much as I love the Cold Steel series, that was definitely a dick move!
Thanks for showing a 1 playthrough player what could potentially be an important plot point.
Thanks for the upload! I’ve finished CS I&II. I’m letting my PS4 East atm before playing the third game.
Was surprised to play as some characters from the Crossbell arc. I’m amazed that there were 2 games going on at the same time. This universe is so vast, I’m getting a slight headache trying to wrap my head around it all at once. Lol I want it all!
I'm blown away that a scene like this was hidden at the end of NG+.. what the hell man, I never would have seen this.
Dude these are amazing! Hope you do more with the Crossbell arc games :D
Or... You could easily watch this extra stuff on youtube after finishing the game.
That's what I did.
I don't think the Black Records content should be in NG+ on that game, especially since it's a big game and it takes you a long time to finish with everything. If you do everything you can, you just don't want to do it again.
I personally don't like to start a new game + in a game that I've spent some time away because I love the feeling of starting over so in the end, I played CS2 three times, none of them in NG+. Maybe I should do it eventually though. xD
@Blaire obviously. that's why this vid exists. to inform players of the lore.
@@advmx3 but u can play ng+, without levels and mira and sepith, I like ng+ cause I can finally view all the bonding scenes, but I don't have the time nor patients to play ng+. Any game I play twice is to get all achievement or speedrun, and not interested for any of that in cs as the new stuff is at the very very end.
Hopefully falcom don't realize players like us would do that, otherwise they might just pull a sakurai with putting in less stuff if players could just look up stuff on youtube lol
@@thejonbrownshow8470 i mean if they make the stuff might as well let the player get it in blind playthrough anyway. whats the point of hiding it?
I’m already on that. This is my first time playing Cold Steel 2. It has been a great ride so far.
thx for putting this out there. I recently picked up the trails series with Trails in the Sky 1 2 3 and Cold Steel 1 & 2 played back to back. Couldn't be bothered with NG+ since my game time is limited and frankly can't make time to go over a game multiple times. Started CS 3 a few days ago and this scene is interesting when considering what happens in CS3 with Rosine. So yeah, thank you :)
I am somehow just finding this video 3 years later, having just beaten Cold Steel 1-4 in about 10 days
NOW I HAVE TO GO BACK AND PLAY 2-4 ALL OVER AGAIN
Thank you for making this video!! I just finished cold steel II and already have cold steel III loaded up…. I guess I’m one of the crazies who binge game after game 😂. No way I would’ve known about this NG+ stuff before starting.
2:15 Oh _That's_ what you are on about. My mind kept blanking and I was only thinking of the optional boss XD
Thanks. I never would have done second playthrough just for that
Rosine was already a good bae side character to begin with. Learning this makes it even better.
Well, thanks for the heads up. I just picked up all three entries recently, and while I don't want to spoil any of my experience, it's useful to know these details so that I'm not stressing too much over getting absolutely everything out of my first playthrough. If NG+ adds stuff (and I'd assume keeps the rest), I can play as blind as I like the first time and then check out any extra tips for finding everything I missed in NG+.
just finished cold steel 2 and had no intention on doing ng+ before 3 comes out in November so this was appreciated kinda silly to leave something like this out of the main play through.
Even then the black records are especially difficult to find without a guide.
There is one in a shop where everything else is useless.
There is one at the end of the Ancient Quarry in Nord but it only appears after you defeat the boss.
And even better. There is one in the corner of Lohengrin Castle, only available before you defeat the boss.
2:55 I will gladly play CS2 many times over and over again because I love the game so much before the PS4 announcement I was on my 3rd NG+ playthrough on ps3 so you can’t fault or deny my commitment
Good thing I saw this video. I recently finished and enjoyed ToCS II and are currently going through NG+. Was thinking of maybe dropping it, but now I am set on getting Black Records and more stuff. It is just a bit depressing that third game might be PS4-only forever... Both first and second I played on PC. If I was to get PS4 in the future is there a way to bring saves from PC version to PS4 ones? I ask this as a complete noob with technology and games so I hope you don't mind me ask.
played trails of cold steel 1 & 2 but couldn't be bothered with a new game +.
oh yeah, this has an easter egg in the av store in tokyo xanadu +
They are wearing their dlc outfits from ToCS 2 as well
thanks for the vidéo i have finished Cold steel 2 last week
I just finished my NG+ this week, had to take a few months break in between
Going back to this, even when CS3 was a long ways away and I had beaten the 2nd game on the Vita, even I didn't know about this extra cutscene that I needed to work towards getting.
I didn't know that it was in the second game, I went straight from the 2nd game to the 3rd. Boy was I shocked...
"Who the hell am I"
I think he he means
"Who the Gahenna am I"
I heard this and just grabbed a save someone had to watch the scenes
I know I'm late, but what is the name of the song in your End card in the last seconds of this video?
now subbed to the channel saw that 3 is coming to the switch and part of it reminded me of 1 and i forgot to play it atleast i have something to dig research into to understand
Oh darn, I have to play cold steel 2 again. Good thing I absolutely love the series :D
my sister played and finished ToCS II. Planning on playing my first blind playthru on her ng+. is that alright?
GOD DAMNIT! Ya know after having just finished trials to Azure, as soon as you showed a shot of Professor Thomas in this video it like instantly clicked and I was thinking "Oh god, Thomas is a member of the Gralsritter isn't he?" Then as soon as the scene started and Rosine was standing next to him I just thought "GOD DAMNIT HE IS AND ROSINE IS HIS FUCKING SQUIRE" How does this series keep doing this?!?!
Man imagine if they did the Mass Effect route and you could carryover data to sequel games. That'd be awesome.
I was just about to start a new game plus on Nightmare difficulty (Trails of Cold Steel 2), yes I have transfer my last save from PS3 to PS4.
Ah yes, I obtained this scene when I completed the game on PS3. Thank you for this reminder though as I don't think I'd replay the game again before the 3rd one.
Is it coming to pc as well?
You're talking about that scene eh? Yeah I've seen it already. Good on expanding on the lore of Erebonia's past.
Thanks for this Video, i just finished Cold Steel 2 a Weaks ago and because i almost never buy books in these games i would have missed this Lore detail.
Joke on you this quarantine is helping me wonders on all these ng+ i'm doing lol
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Didnt realize this was a secret scene,I just unlocked it without knowing. My real purpose of playing NG+ was to have Crow as a party member again
I didn't see this coming! At all!
Played game twice but not NG+...still missed this
Thanks
It would cool if it were to possible to extract the save date from the cloud storage from the vita sustem or ps3....if not dont mind replaying them on the ps4
I thought it was only a boss. Thanks for the video
I am glad that they can include cloud saves from the first 2 from the PS3 and Vita titles. ^^ As I already had them both beat on the ita wich should make doing NG+ on these easy for me. XD
What I did was complete CS2 then watched the important scene here on YT. That works well enough for the modern age to me
I WANT TO KNOW, but i haven't played that far yet...
I'll wait :P
This series is so amazing. I'm really happy that I have so much more to work through
I've beaten Cold Steel 2 20 minutes ago and now I'm here
My favorite game series
Played cold steal one and two back to back but couldn’t pass the first dungeon in 3 from serious burn out. Replaying it again I remember the big plot points but forgot half of the subplots
I never got that secret scene. How do you exactly find it? already found all the black records
Turn them in to instructor thomas and then finish the game
Its been a year ive seen someone talking about this series
Well well, I guess that's what I get for not looking up stuff I missed after beating the game.
Well thats a helpful bit, it should also be noted that you can import your save data from the previous versions of the game if you want to use those for New Game+ as I beat the first two games on Vita. I picked up the first game on PS4 and made a new game plus save file on my Vita copy that I transferred over to continue on PS4.
Thank you.
Thanks for this. I'm already about to play through CS2 again for a second time but it won't be NG+ as I'm playing the PC version this time so I really don't want to invest the time playing it a 3rd time as I really want to play CS3 (That new CS3 demo is amazing by the way). I've already put a ton of hours into this series (Sky - Cold Steel) and playing some of them multiple times on different platforms like above so....I'll be sure to take note of this when I hop onto CS3 since I didn't play that one yet.
I love this series but honestly I'm not really a NG+ person though. I generally beat a game then go to something else then may come back as a refresher and this is super time consuming. I feel like NG+ should be mainly for smaller games that are quick to beat (Way Of The Samurai series does this the best).
i wasnt going to do any NG+ stuff until i was through all the available games. iv gone though everygame from Sky FC to cold steel 2 in a bit over a month... wrapping up the epiloge in CS2 soon then moving right in to CS 3 & 4. then ill start it alllll over again on NG+ Nightmare for every game.
I'll come back to this once I beat trails 2 at least once in halfway thro act 2 cause I doubt I'll find this scene by accident
5:48 uh pretty sure the information that what was being described was the battle between the sept terrions of earth and fire was supposed to be a twist in like chapter 4 or 5 of cs3
So, i just saw the Cutscene now and in the End Thomas said that the Roaring Lion takes care of things in West Erebonia.
Than it doesnt make sense that he was dying in Nord when Gaius got his Stigma in CS3. Nord is on the complete other side and i havent got any clue why he was there.
i know 100% im at ng+ i finished alias ending my first time. i think im either in my 2nd or 3rd playthrough of the game. i got left off in act 2 i think. i was doing it with a guide this last run until my vita button camera kept spinning which made me unable to play so im continuing from where i left off. didn't knew about that ng+ exclusive scene but i was gathering all of the black books cant wait for tocs3
I did do NG+ on the original but don’t really remember even though I did see this scene since I had guide through my way in the game
Binged FC,SC,3rd and working on Zero, cold steel 3 released drop and im dying of hype
Nice. Ao will completely blow you away.
I played through NG+ 3 times and have gotten everything else but this one scene, how on earth did I manage to miss it? 3 times in fact.
I've only played TOCS 1 & 2, haven't played the earlier games, but done NG+ on both of the ones I have.
So playing the earlier games would be a good idea, but not a requirement?
Also, while the game may come out for PS4 in fall, do we have any information on when/if it'll be available for PC/steam? Tfw no PS4...
well in my opinion you don't absolutely have to play them, but you will feel lost when meeting some characters and seeing some events because you have no clue what is happening. The best example i can give you is that interlude with loyd and rixia in CS2. You don't know who they are , what they are doing or why you are playong them if you only know cold steel. It will be like that but a lot more.
As for PC release we have no idea but since it's NISA unless there is a problem on the technical side the port shouldn't take too long. The only thing we might have to worry is the quality .
@@aleixiel_1729 I see, yeah I did feel very confused with Loyd and Rixia appearing, guess I'll at the very least attempt to play the earlier legend of hero games. Worst case scenario I'll spoil myself and read/watch something on the internet to find out I guess, or knowing me if the port is done by then I'll say whatever and play CS3 anyway.
And I did hear that NISA was gonna do the port, but I have no idea how long they take with that kind of thing, I guess I just won't assume anything and cry myself to sleep until they do finish it.
Thank you very much for your quick, thoughtful and well informed reply, I really, really appreciate it!
@@Icemon2705 oh by the way do remember that you wont find any official translation of crossbell but there are perfectly playable versions that are fan made by geofront.
As for the time it will take for NISA to port the game to PC, well they learned from the port of Ys 8 so they shouldnt have that many problems. The ps4 version is scheduled for autumn 2019 so based on that i would say something like winter. So my guess would be late 2019 to early 2020.
That should leave you enough time to play a few hopefully
I think it's perfectly fine though.
I think it adds to the replayability factor to add some Easter eggs/ lore in the NG+.
Though that's coming from someone who always plays all Trails games more than once.
I saw this scene on my 2nd playthrough and knew they were hinting at things to come, but I didn't catch the part about the 2 colossus in Erebonia.
I was always curious, but didn't put 2+2 together lmao.
I'm one of those crazy bastards trying to cram sky 1-3 and the 2 crossbell games before CS3 😂😂
Falcom always did this with Cold Steel. Let's think about the CD Dramas for example, it's even suggested on their website, if I remember, to watch/read them. And in Cold Steel IV they even put stuff from the manga and I was so confused because I couldn't understand what they were talking about.
Does that mean I still need to buy the PS4 releases of 1 and 2 even though I already have the plat on both games on the Vita and finished them multiple times ?
Oh. Nevermind.
I don't think I'll be able to NG+ TOCSII anytime soon. Still on chapter 4 of the first game, but good to know it's something to look out for. My second playthru most likely will be nightmare mode for a plat, so scary for me. j
In the same way that Rean participating in North Ambria being annexed is mentioned in passing as having happened in the past year, I just assumed that Thomas' confiding his identity was another little development we are understood to have not seen.
The most frustating Part about the Annexion is, thats there this crucial Moment when Reans Power runs amok and all we got in the Game was like "yeah, you cant use Spirit unification anymore. Sorry about that."
And the Anime was a downer.. it hasnt answerd the question what happened with Rean, just when.
The most frustating Part about the Annexion is, thats there this crucial Moment when Reans Power runs amok and all we got in the Game was like "yeah, you cant use Spirit unification anymore. Sorry about that."
And the Anime was a downer.. it hasnt answerd the question what happened with Rean, just when.
i'm on my fourth playtrough =)
WATCHED THIS AGAIN BECAUSE CS 3 IS ALMOST HERE NOW IF FALCOM/NISA ANNOUNCED THE CS 4 LOCALIZATION IS BEING WORK THEN I WILL BE AT PEACE ALSO MAYBE SLIDING THE LOCALIZATION OF ZERO/AO (CROSSBELL) I WILL BE MORE AT PEACE WELL ANYONE CAN DREAM RIGHT?? URGH THE TORTURE CONTINUES BUT I'M HAPPY WE NOW FINALLY GOT CS 3
I already played a ng+ in both games and really I wasn't expecting such a cannon storyline scene to be in ng+. I agree with you that the average player won't even consider replaying the game unless they really liked it because man aren't kiseki games in general so long huh, you really need to enjoy the ride and have patience as you can't skip dialogues and cutscenes even if you are in ng+ (they really should've added that feature). As I fulfilled those two previous conditions and also wanted to do a trophy completionist run with a guide and wreck every enemy in the game with my transferred lvls quartz and equipment (like that invincible mc burn at chapter 1), I happened to find this extra cannon scene, but yeah, average player replaying in a ng+? Not likely to happen.
Btw I'll need a 3rd playthrough for the platinum trophy because I always got past millium events without caring for her character (least favourite of class 7 for me, until I watched some footage and spoilers from cs 3 and 4 that is), thus making her final event unavailable at the end of the game and well sh*t happens now I need to replay it a 3rd time just for millium final bonding event x.x
I'm glad I won't have to play NG+ just for this scene. But hell that was a good chunk of lore.
Thank you!!! I was going to replay CS1 & 2 before 3 released, but I just didn’t have time. I knew about the black records but had no idea they would lock a scene like this to NG+ along with them.
Glad I found this, its a shame 2 does not carry over
For those who don't know. The NG+ Content is also referred to as "Black Records" And NO thats not a Spoiler.
This Comment is for those ppl who stopped watching at around 3:50
What song is playing in the outro?
Blitzkreig from CS2
So only need to do a new game+ for cold steel 2?
Played 1 but felt burnt-out after. Now dropping 2 rip my wallet for buying all of them
I wasnt gonna do NG+ looked this up. Rosine was actually weird at end of cs2 when i played and knew something off with Thomas. This should def been included and you be guided towards