Reading comments suprised people not always positive, i train Shotokan , we call this Hangetsu , I watch these to learn the Isshin way of doing kata. We all have our way/version i want to expand my understanding of karate , they are all relevant.
Thank you for this video. Slightly faster than I could keep up with (lots of pausing), but this really helps. I'm not ostracized in karate as 'the person that can't do seisan' any more
Sanchin is our first kata in Isshinryu, however some teachers do teach seisan first, and sanchin would be a brown belt kata, however it is a white belt kata for us
Great videos! Very helpful to someone new to Isshin Ryu. I’m a Nidan in Shorin Ryu, and I’m a bit obsessed with Seisan because of its uniqueness and rich history. I have had instruction from other sources, of those being Ryukyu Kenpo and Isshin Kenpo. I began my deeper studies to discover the breathing techniques taught for Seisan. Could you please provide me with some guidance on this subject. I’d greatly appreciate your time!!! Once again, thrilled about your videos and content. You’re a natural instructor! :)
Thank you! I am glad I could help you out! I will be posting Wansu kata very soon. It needs to be edited so it won’t be the next video but it will be out as soon as it is edited.
@davorme, just as a historical reference, it looks a bit complicated for beginners because all of the isshinryu kata are found in styles that teach those kata to black belts. So, even our beginning white belts are studying kata that are only studied by dan levels in some other style somewhere. They do contain some sophisticated and complex techniques, but over time the nuances become more apparent to the students. Fun fact.
@@Gawdhammer Yes, in my research I have found the same thing. Seisan is a black belt level kata in some other styles and is taught much later in the curriculum. One group saves it for the seventh kata to be studied due to the number of obvious and implied techniques found in it. They consider the bunkai very dangerous. That encouraged me to go back and look at the kata again and again and really work with a partner. It's a journey of discovery and not to be rushed through to get to seiuchin and the other Isshinryu kata. O'Sensei gave his students a true challenge!
Hi, its just some of the 'newer'/Japanese/Korean styles such as TKD, Shotokan use Heian/Pinan like kata for lower grades , simplified parts of advanced kata such as Kankudai for schools when karate first came to Japan, Okinawan styles did not always add them , they Stuck with traditional kata, which is why Dan grades of Japanese styles seek knowledge from Okinawan styles such as Goju, Isshin , Shorin. They still introduce their beginners in their way.
@@Gawdhammer Isshin ryu studies its basics seperatly from the kata, New students are put through repeated "Basics" , punches, kicks, all techniques that are in the kata. After a while kata is introduced. Isshin ryu is ( to my knowledge) the only style that begins in this manner. Many of the initial kata in other styles is doing what our basics do, introduce the student to basic techniques. This is why or 8 empty hand kata are derived from black belt kata from other styles. I've been studying and teaching Isshin Ryu for about 40 years. I found it complicated to carry many kata as other styles do.. I have seen styles with over 24 kata, and the point is a bunch of basic kata that teach block punch, block punch in a variety of directions.. Our Basics take the place or these kata. and to answer a few other concerns bunkai is king.. Understanding Bunkai is to understand not only the technique but body mechanics, timing, and all the other parts of life missed by simply repeating kata. People who "collect kata" seldom ever have a chance to work the techniques because they have so many kata they simply repeat them so they can remember them.. I call them kata collectors.
As a holder of a 7th Degree Blackbelt in Shorin-ryu I can say I really like your execution of Seisen ..However I must point out that in my opinion the use of crossing one’s legs when changing directions is totally unnecessary,because in application one would want to move as natural and efficient as possible..And the use of kicks higher then waist level is not how traditional Okinawan Karate was originally practiced .But your execution of the Kata is good.
First of all, it is not "her execution" of Seisan. It is the Isshin-ryu version of the kata that is practiced in exact this way by all Isshin-Ryu practitioners. And why exactly do you claim the right to criticize Isshin-Ryu kata and techniques, when you are from Shorin-Ryu? For you style, all of that might be true, but not for Isshin-Ryu. At an open seminar you can discuss differences and variations of techniques. No problem and very welcome. But why exactly did you get the idea that it's up to you to tell another style what's right and what's wrong?
crossing the feet creates tork for the turn.. which while holding on to the opponent generates pull power. Besides if you dont turn around you need to have a space 400 feet long LOL. If your a 7th degree and a legitimate one, you will understand that critiquing a kata online like this is redundant as your have not been shown application of the move. Higher kicks are in the early stages simply for exercise. I have been teaching this kata for over 40 years.. One thing Ive learned about traditional Okinawa karate is that there are many ways to train..
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Reading comments suprised people not always positive, i train Shotokan , we call this Hangetsu , I watch these to learn the Isshin way of doing kata. We all have our way/version i want to expand my understanding of karate , they are all relevant.
Thank you for this video. Slightly faster than I could keep up with (lots of pausing), but this really helps. I'm not ostracized in karate as 'the person that can't do seisan' any more
Sanchin is our first kata in Isshinryu, however some teachers do teach seisan first, and sanchin would be a brown belt kata, however it is a white belt kata for us
Really helps , many thanks . Still learning .
Great videos! Very helpful to someone new to Isshin Ryu. I’m a Nidan in Shorin Ryu, and I’m a bit obsessed with Seisan because of its uniqueness and rich history. I have had instruction from other sources, of those being Ryukyu Kenpo and Isshin Kenpo. I began my deeper studies to discover the breathing techniques taught for Seisan. Could you please provide me with some guidance on this subject. I’d greatly appreciate your time!!! Once again, thrilled about your videos and content. You’re a natural instructor! :)
Thank uuu i needed help
thank u for the videos finally got my yellow belt
This video is extremely helpful, thanks so much.
for me sanchin is orange while seisan is brown
I find your videos to be more helpful than any others I have found. Will you please do the Isshinryu Wansu kata next?
Thank you! I am glad I could help you out! I will be posting Wansu kata very soon. It needs to be edited so it won’t be the next video but it will be out as soon as it is edited.
Thank you!!
I love how the entire comment section consists of the McDojo hivemind patting itself on the back for being equally unacceptional
The first form I learned for Tae Kwon Do was a lot less complicated than this. Do you have to do all this at once? Seems a little much for beginners.
It is complicated! I have been using the video to break it down into sections. Check out Belleville Martial arts seisan video as well
@davorme, just as a historical reference, it looks a bit complicated for beginners because all of the isshinryu kata are found in styles that teach those kata to black belts. So, even our beginning white belts are studying kata that are only studied by dan levels in some other style somewhere. They do contain some sophisticated and complex techniques, but over time the nuances become more apparent to the students. Fun fact.
@@Gawdhammer Yes, in my research I have found the same thing. Seisan is a black belt level kata in some other styles and is taught much later in the curriculum. One group saves it for the seventh kata to be studied due to the number of obvious and implied techniques found in it. They consider the bunkai very dangerous. That encouraged me to go back and look at the kata again and again and really work with a partner. It's a journey of discovery and not to be rushed through to get to seiuchin and the other Isshinryu kata. O'Sensei gave his students a true challenge!
Hi, its just some of the 'newer'/Japanese/Korean styles such as TKD, Shotokan use Heian/Pinan like kata for lower grades , simplified parts of advanced kata such as Kankudai for schools when karate first came to Japan, Okinawan styles did not always add them , they Stuck with traditional kata, which is why Dan grades of Japanese styles seek knowledge from Okinawan styles such as Goju, Isshin , Shorin. They still introduce their beginners in their way.
@@Gawdhammer Isshin ryu studies its basics seperatly from the kata, New students are put through repeated "Basics" , punches, kicks, all techniques that are in the kata. After a while kata is introduced. Isshin ryu is ( to my knowledge) the only style that begins in this manner. Many of the initial kata in other styles is doing what our basics do, introduce the student to basic techniques. This is why or 8 empty hand kata are derived from black belt kata from other styles. I've been studying and teaching Isshin Ryu for about 40 years. I found it complicated to carry many kata as other styles do.. I have seen styles with over 24 kata, and the point is a bunch of basic kata that teach block punch, block punch in a variety of directions.. Our Basics take the place or these kata. and to answer a few other concerns bunkai is king.. Understanding Bunkai is to understand not only the technique but body mechanics, timing, and all the other parts of life missed by simply repeating kata. People who "collect kata" seldom ever have a chance to work the techniques because they have so many kata they simply repeat them so they can remember them.. I call them kata collectors.
4th degree black belts. Sure...
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As a holder of a 7th Degree Blackbelt in Shorin-ryu I can say I really like your execution of Seisen ..However I must point out that in my opinion the use of crossing one’s legs when changing directions is totally unnecessary,because in application one would want to move as natural and efficient as possible..And the use of kicks higher then waist level is not how traditional Okinawan Karate was originally practiced .But your execution of the Kata is good.
First of all, it is not "her execution" of Seisan. It is the Isshin-ryu version of the kata that is practiced in exact this way by all Isshin-Ryu practitioners. And why exactly do you claim the right to criticize Isshin-Ryu kata and techniques, when you are from Shorin-Ryu? For you style, all of that might be true, but not for Isshin-Ryu. At an open seminar you can discuss differences and variations of techniques. No problem and very welcome. But why exactly did you get the idea that it's up to you to tell another style what's right and what's wrong?
crossing the feet creates tork for the turn.. which while holding on to the opponent generates pull power. Besides if you dont turn around you need to have a space 400 feet long LOL. If your a 7th degree and a legitimate one, you will understand that critiquing a kata online like this is redundant as your have not been shown application of the move. Higher kicks are in the early stages simply for exercise. I have been teaching this kata for over 40 years.. One thing Ive learned about traditional Okinawa karate is that there are many ways to train..
I am a black belt in isshunryu and you are correct. No kicks above the waist in traditional Okinawan katas.