Why Bravestarr and Blackstar were not part of Masters of the Universe Classics He-Man toy line
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Scot Toy Guru Neitlich from Spector Creative reviews why Filmation's Blackstar and Bravestarr were not part of the MOTUC line despite overwhelming fan demand for this.
Blackstar definitely lived in the He-Man universe in my toy box. He was He-Man’s buddy.
Well in toy play everyone plays together!
He wasn't just He-Man's buddy. He was also his friend and his guy.
@@spectorcreative1872 except Cobra, Decepticons and Renegades. Oh and the Galactic Empire.
Same.
My fan fiction, was John Blackstar travelled to outerspace and was lost crash landing to Sagar. Marlena then went to outerspace, to look for him, as he was a co-astronaut and friend from Earth. Marlena' trajectory was thrown off similarly, but went to Eternia instead. Both came to terms about their lives and lived where they were. One day in a crossover met each other again from a dimensional gate. He-Man and Blackstar team up to beat Overlord and Skeletor.
Oh Bravestarr, an underrated and forgotten gem!
If only.....
Sorry but no, the villains were way too weak and stupid. They never challenged bravestar
@@robertsteinberger5667 oh I totally get that, as a kid I had some of the toys years before ever seeing the cartoon. I always used my imagination to come up with how they acted or what they did. Heck I didn't even realize that Bravestarr was native American until years later. I just like the characters looks, an intergalactic cowboy to me is a very cool concept
If only indeed
@@korydoe4813 If you like sci-fi westerns you should check out Adventures of the Galaxy Rangers. It's an animated series that came out around the same time as Bravestarr but had better writing and animation.
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@@Ginormousaurus cool I'll check it out, thanks
My eyes of the hawk caught this video in my subscription feed, and my speed of the puma clicked so fast...
Well said
.......BOOOOOOOM
My strength of the bear lifted my mighty tablet to read such an epic response!
Just because they legally couldn't crossover officially never stopped kids from trying to figure out how to do it when playing with the toys.
The beauty of toys as a medium!
Yes I wanted He-man and GI Joe to work with MASK.
@@robshimer GI Joe and Mask are technically in the same universe along with Jem and the Holograms and the Transformers if I remember right.
@@26th_Primarch Joes were taller than MASK.
@@robshimer no I mean their cartoon series are set in the same universe.
Now I want this crossover. Better yet I'd love a MOTU, Thundaar the Barbarian, and Herculoids crossover!
I would pay good shekels to see that
Go check out the _Hanna-Barbera Herculoids_ action figure box sets! Yes, Multiple Sets! Theirs 3 or 4 Different ones.. They came out, at The same time as the 'THUNDAAR' Big 3 action figures. That my friend found for like $19.99, way back when- at the Mall. It was either 'Spencer Gifts' store or 'Suncoast Video' (An old High End, VHS/DVD & related Spendy Mall Store). A Store I deerly miss.
Thundercats, Silverhawks and Tigersharks fans feel your pain.
Not to mention Kirby's 4th World and Thundarr the Barbarian
@@spectorcreative1872 I just made myself feel old, remembering I have a Thundarr figure three-pack, and discovered those were from a Toonami series released back in '03.
Well at least we got the closet thing of a crossover between Thundercats, Silverhawks, and Tigershark. That being, the 2011 cameo. Oh, and let's not mention Roar.
@@peterang78 Well, it looks like Silverhawks gets a revival, just yesterday a saw a video where the first Figures were revealed. Qicksilver, Steelheart and transformed Monstarr. And they look damn good.
That artwork showing Flash Gordon taking on Hordak, Skeletor blasting Blackstar, He-Man dueling Overlord, She-Ra and Tex Hex, and Bravestarr taking down Ming. Epic.
Simply epic.
He-Man always felt like the spiritual successor of Flash Gordon.
Yeah that is a cool piece!
The crossover everyone wanted.
That would have been a hell of a shared universe. Imagine the team ups. I always thought they could connect black star to queen Elena since they were both astronauts from earth.
It would be so cool, ,in a hypothetical reality!
my thought exactly! blackstar could be her son or brother from earth !
I remember the Bravestar Series but I don't think I ever saw Blackstar. I found Bravestar's complete series available to purchase on Amazon but sadly Blackstar is not so much unless you want to spend more then 120 for it from a marketplace seller. I've been going through watching those old 80s cartoons over the last couple of years. This actually started with He-Man, but I've also gone through Transformers (American and Japanese) GI Joe, Jem and the Holograms, and I'm nearly finished with Thundercats. ASadly there are so many cartoons where you can't find the complete series on DVD or Blu Ray to watch.
It was a blink and you miss it kinda thing
With what they're doing now I'd think that if anyone is going to make Blackstar and Bravestarr figures it would be Super 7.
I would bet on that
That would be outstanding! Never collected either of those lines, but that Blackstar "Palace Guard" figure DEFINITELY showed up in the Filmation HMATMOTU series! I think it was in the episode "A Tale of Two Cities," and they were called "Gargons." I'd buy a couplathree of those, if they got made!
Enh, who am I kidding? I'd probably try to get the whole line. Someone once gave me the yellow cat villain from Blackstar, same birthday as I got Man-E-Weapons. He'd make a good minion for Beast Man.
Their TMNT Ultimates are tempting to me at the moment.
@@MaryBrownIsTheBlairWitch Oh, Hells, yes! I tried to be strong, but Baxter Stockman, Mondo Gecko, and Leatherhead called out to me . . . .
@@Beedo_Sookcool Their imminent Casey Jones looks superb, and a Shredder that can finally stand up straight, ha! Yes, I am very tempted...
It obviously could be wrong but I recall reading as far back as the 90’s there was a plan or at least idea that MOTU and Bravestar were set in the same universe and a crossover special was talked about
As far as I know, no there was never a plan to combine these IPs
So what you’re saying is that we’re *definitely* getting “Jason of Star Command” figures in Masterverse, right? 😉
Gillian's Planet? I guess I'm wasting some time today trying to watch at least a few episodes.
I’ll take both Jason of Star Command and Space Academy figures... but I want them in 4”.
La sigh....
I would cry with joy if they made a classics Blackstar line. I loved that show
Many would!
I was a big fan of both MoTU and Bravestar as a kid and it never once crossed my mind that they would be in the same universe. I don’t see how anyone could be confused about the fact that they took place in different fictional universes.
If anything, it would thematically make more sense for Bravestarr to crossover with either the Galaxy Rangers or the Silverhawks, stick with the space cowboy lawman theme.
So many were, hence the natural feel of a cross over
Rio Blast is the one that brought the idea of Cyborg Cowboys to MOTU. It's weird thinking of Bravestarr and He-man teaming up.... but Rio Blast teaming up with Bravestarr was a perfect fit.
Also, there isn't a lot of focus on 'different fictional universes'.... It's different PLANETS... But so are Eternia and Etheria.. And Earth... and Trolla... Different planets aren't a major hurdle in 'Masters of the UNIVERSE'. Just open a glowing portal door and boom... enter Space Cowboy world ;)
But really, the biggest thing is that Masters of the Universe was the PERFECT toy line. NOTHING is out of place there. Barbarians, Magic, Science, Cyborgs, Undead, ghosts, Cowboys, ninjas, monsters of any shape and size... All of them have been established in the line. If you can dream it, it fits in with MOTU. All toys are welcome into the playroom. Nothing is 'too much'. :D
from what i remember galaxy rangers and bravestarr were supposed to be linked, but it was never actually officially confirmed..though some villains were clearly supposed to be connected.
I'm glad they were not in the line taking up slots that could be used for actual MOTU characters. A separate line in the same style like Thundercats and TMNT Ultimates would be fine.
I was a little surprised to see the Thundercats characters that were done. That said, I'd love to see all these properties done in the Classics form factor, or even the very similar Origins form factor. The WWE line, while poorly distributed, does look like a lot of fun.
Maybe Super 7 will do that?
Toy Guru! Good to hear from you again! To this day, my complete Masters of the Universe Classics collection is my most cherished and most complete collection I own out of all the properties I have collected. IMHO, under your tenure it has to be one of the best toy lines ever! I would have loved to see a Bravestarr and Blackstar Classics line. Those properties don't get enough love. I am just sad we were not able to see more figures from the New Adventures of He Man in Classics. I'm hoping lightning will strike twice with the Thundercats Classics line and that line will be able to grow and flourish like Masters of the Universe Classics. I already put in my order for the Classics Thundertank :)
That tank looks amazing. Great to hear from you
Your He-Man versus Overlord your She-Ra versus Tex Hex your Brave star versus Ming skeletor versus Black star and Flash Gordon versus Hordak that happens to be my artwork that I had commissioned long ago in 2003 I'm glad it was acknowledged in your documentary.
Thank You.
That’s what’s cool about classics and loyal subject figs. You can create a lot of customs or crossovers. Toys are about our own imagination and not just recreating a scene exactly as it was in a movie or show.
That’s why so many of the Star Wars B-list/background figures were so popular when I was a kid. They didn’t really have a story to them. They could be whatever you want them to be and really expand how you played with them.
Very much so!
I never saw Blackstar on TV. My dad would rent it on Videodisc aka CED. Those short-lived RCA players. I remember the picture on the plastic cartridge. I'd watch them over and over.
He is a character worth watching
You explained the part I felt like most folks asking you already knew. The last few seconds about why nobody championed to cobble something together was the missing part of the puzzle.
I should have drilled that home perhaps?
The license labyrinth is deep and twists into thousands turns . Even Though Disney Bought Jetix 10 years ago . They can not use any content from that era without shifting mountains of paper or paying a kings ransom.
Mountain of paper...
@@spectorcreative1872 hahahaha well that but then again after completing 10 years in Disney .I can safely say its never 1 mountain .
So if Mattel made bravestar could they reuse the tooling from some of the heman characters to save production costs? Or would it be original tooling?
Probably reuse as much as possible, with some new tooling
The 1st _reuse_ that pops to mind
is the Ewok village for a Robin Hood playset.
@@favoritemustard3542 What's funny is Spector did a vid on the toyline for Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves, and that mold was mentioned as being used in that series too.
Yes if Mattel Mattel licensed Bravestarr they could use MOTUC tooling. Hypotetically
i was a child of the 80's and grow up with he-man. untill 1984 came around and i got into transformers. man them was the day's. i remember the blackstar & bravestar toy's but never got into them as a kid.
Yeah they were not the biggest brands
@@spectorcreative1872 same go's for toy line like silverhawk's & mask. they where not the biggest seller's back in the 80's
Loved Bravestarr as a kid and it would have been awesome to get classics style figures.
It really would have, that for sure
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Well thank you so much! Any suggestions for topics are always welcome. I most appreciate the kind words!
I remember from childhood that episode in MOTU when we could see that statue of Blackstar.To bad they wasnt included in the MOTU classics.I always imagined that Bravestarr was from the same place Rio Blast came from as a kid.
Yeah that was not a legal path to doing the figure
You're absolutely right that MotU Classics is one of the best action figure lines to ever be created.
wow. i had no idea this was a thing...the confusion I mean. lol. separate logos, separate properties, separate agreements.
Yup. Now you know it and you can't unknow it
My first thought was, why would they be?
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While it’s understood, it still would have been cool to see what the Horsemen would have done with the other Filmation properties. Even the Ghostbusters. Who knows with the MOTU stuff becoming popular again maybe Mattel would try its hand at other vintage properties.
I highly doubt that anyone will ever again do Bravestarr and least of all, Filmation Ghostbusters. They're gone forever
@@coreyfludd357 not necessarily. If battle beast, mad balls, and silver hawks ( recent Super 7 announcement) can make a comeback then Bravestar can as well. We’ll probably see Bravestar before we see official M.A.S.K toys ( yes I know Hasbro did an homage with its last micro master set and the 4 inch joe line years ago) including the transforming vehicles. Now to be realistic will it be in the coming years, no definitely not. With the MOTU success I wouldn’t count other vintage lines out. It’s just a matter of timing and a benchmark anniversary.
Oh no one is saying it wouldn't have been cool
I love how, were it not for the licensing issue, the HB Thundarr fig would have been really easy to make with MOTU Classics tooling. The extra work you guys did with that was well worth it :D
Oh so many characters we could have done it IP laws did not exist
Thundar te Barbarian is Ruby Spears not Hannah Barberra.
@@igorsdonjon2271 Derp, that's right. Thanks for the correction
I always thought that Bravestarr was Mattel's 'in-house' IP, which they co-developed and co-owned together with Filmation.
2:19 Kinda flubbed the explanation there... it was the character of Tex Hex that was created for Filmation's Ghostbusters first, then as you said Lou Scheimer liked his design so much they pulled him out of Ghostbusters and decided to make him the main villain of a whole other show. So in his case, it was the villain that got created first, then the hero (Bravestarr) and the rest of the series were made around him.
Was it Tex Hex? I thought Bravestarr was pulled from GB but I have been wrong many times
Exactly what I came in here to say
Kudos to Filmation for making nice illustration on their cartoons
My memory of Blackstar and He-Man was I did think He-Man stole the two sword concept from Blackstar, that said He-Man was still my favorite.
It is more that they were created around the same time but independently!
and here we are, Sun-man has entered into the Origins line and people seem 50/50 about liking the Sun-man line, so, for me, I would love Bravestarr figures in the origins line
A cross-over collaboration like in "Toy Soldier: Warchest" or" Super Robot" games. Fort Night does a great job of licensing IP characters.
80s cartoons can be what NFTs wanted to be. Selling shares of IPs and allowing respectable licensing of characters and stories can make companies more money than squatting and lawsuits.
Had you guys done Bravestarr and/or Blackstar I would have purchased all of them. You did such a great job on the line Scott, I just wish this channel had existed at the time, so as fans we could have heard your side of things while they were happening. I mean Im sure Mattel would have hated that, but it's a real eye opener, and makes a lot of the fan bases complaints at the time seem silly.
OH I would have loved to do them, but you know, legal and all. Thanks for the very kind words, it is most appreciated!
It was Tex Hex that was the impetus for the Bravestarr Cartoon. He was such a cool-looking character that they decided to create a series from him. Big fan of Bravestarr as a kid but the figures were toooo expensive. Thankfully I have made up for that, acquiring the barman and Tex Hex.
Blackstar was a figure I had as a kid, buying it in a discount store and not knowing anything about it as the cartoon was never in syndicate in Ireland.Great vid as always !!!
Well thanks for pointing this out! My research is not always perfect and I most grateful for better info added!
@@spectorcreative1872 😅Only reason I know this was because I did a vid on some Bravestarr figures .Great content as always Scott !!Look forward to more vids.
Honestly they are asking about this? Bravestar is NOT in the same universe as MOTU and never crossed over, AND the same with Blackstar.
Also, Gabloo made Blackstar figures.
It comes up ALL the time. Still.
Always thought it would be kind of cool if Bravestar and Rio Blast were part of the same group of intergalactic lawmen (ala Galaxy Rangers).
Also, was there any influence from the old "Young Samson and Goliath" cartoon on the He-Man/Battlecat characters? Lots of similarities.
Thanks for another great video!
Cool yes. Legally possible, no
Jesus, how did you manage to make this last 11 minutes? There's a skill there!
One of my 4 super powers
@@spectorcreative1872 Dare I ask what the other three are? Yes, yes I do dare
I had always hoped that a toyline with such built-in customizable potential would actually offer the chance to buy specific pieces, to make customizing easer. Like being able to buy 'horde boots' or 'monster shins with webbed feet', instead of having to buy a complete figure, and denying it to someone else due to the limited run of the figures in MOTUC.
It was something that Lego did, for a while. On their website, you could design a building set, and then purchase it, the price determined by the number of pieces and any special pieces used. But I had always imagined being able to buy pieces, and assemble a MOTUC figure myself. Maybe it could be something done in the future, with Origins or maybe even with Classics.
I think had Classics continues this might have happened. Although Origins allows for even ore customization so it would work well there too
Hey Spector. This is #sledgemaster. Just getting back to watching ur show. I had a powerlifting meet this past Sunday. Just trying to rest for that meet. It was a qualifying meet for the nationals and world championships
Well good luck!
Blackstar was always a good toy to get when you didn't have that extra buck for a motu figure. Mixed well with motu in the 80s. Cool toys
Oh he was for sure
What surprises me is that Galoob did not commission another season of 'Blackstar' to go with the toys when He-Mania kicked in.
Stranger things have happened. Just look at the seasonality of Boo Berries. I mean, it should be available year round
@@spectorcreative1872 I never had any of those monster cereals so I wouldn't know.
Animation wasn't cheap. Hasbro decided to stop paying Sunbow to make GI JOE and Transformers, despite how much more successful and popular the cartoons made their toys. Dic picked up GI JOE later and made it cheaper. (So cheap that the final two Dic episodes were clip shows...and not with some new animation to frame the clips, only new audio voice overs)
I never thought about these crossing over till now.I wanted MotU meets Thundercats! I find it funny when Easter eggs are thrown in & some people think this is the proof of connectivity. Maybe they'll do some nods in the upcoming media...
I'd watch that
Oh boy, the first time I was tempted to shoplift was with those Crystar figures. I had wished Star Wars had translucent weapons back then.
Well translucent is cool, but I don't think it is worth breaking the law over!
Makes sense. I would have loved to see a Bravestarr Classics, however
Oh no one is saying it wouldn't have been cool!
One of the animators worked on blackstar also worked on motu serie, blackstar came out before He-man. The guy put little Easter eggs in the motu series from blackstar. Blackstar came out 1981 , MOTU 1983.
Yes, but the MOTU toy line was developed in 1979-1981
Dude, great informative video. I don't know why this is so difficult... it's not manual statistical analysis or DiffEq.
Filmation: cartoon studio
Mattel: toy company (owns or rents IP)
Galoob: toy company (owns or rents IP)
Now, the biggest boys action figure toys in 83-86....there were three sharing that honor, Transformers (Hasbro/Takara), GI Joe ARAH, and MOTU (Mattel). I must say Mattel has better understood the all aspects of the toy industry much better than Hasbro in the past 20 years.
I am a huge closet Mattel fan boy. Imaginext, Mega brands, and, finally, after almost 40 years, am buying MOTU toys.
Yeah this question has just come up too much not to finally address!
Ah, Bravestarr. I still remember that one episode nobody that ever saw it will ever forget. Oh, and because I'm a D***, here: ruclips.net/video/1d2cNArHoKA/видео.html it's on RUclips now, because one or two generations scarred by that episode wasn't enough...
Had to go and check that out.. Jeez what a scared straight moment 😲
Thank goodness for RUclips
I have to admit it would be pretty neat to see Bravestarr and Blackstar action figures done in the MOTU style, the way they licensed the WWE characters. Why stop there? Have crossovers with Thundarr, Conan, Defenders of the Earth, Captain Planet, etc. The thrust of superhero movies over the next two years will be multiverses and crossovers. It would be interesting to see that happen with cartoons and toy lines. What the hell, why not make that the next He-Man movie? Universes are colliding, thanks to the Big Bads, so He-Man has to team up with Bravestarr, Blackstar, Thundarr, etc., to put a stop to it and set things right. What fun they could have with that! The possibilities are endless!
Cool yes, legally possible, no
I know it's not possible but I'd love to see a crossover between Thundarr, Blackstar, He-man & Galtar.
Hey i never thought Spiderman and Han Solo could cross over, but then Disney...
@@spectorcreative1872 true. I'll concede to not possible currently
When it comes to Bravestarr, there are but 3 really good things I feel about it:
1. Wishing that there was a GOOD figure of 30/30. (Some customizers on figurerealm have come close).
2. Episode 44, "Tex's Terrible Night".
3. Episode 47, "The Price".
If I rewatch the show I'll be sure to check those episodes out
It's fun to think that the worlds of Blackstar and Bravestarr could be reached through the Travel Corridors in Castle Grayskull. That would've been a cool detail.
And the worlds of Ninja Turtles and Star Wars if all were one
I don’t know what the timeline of events are hear, but I think with the inclusion of Sun Man in one of the He-Man toylines may have spawned this idea of including Blackstar & BraveStarr
Someone should make these toylines again!
That would be awesome indeed!
My parents must've gotten some Trobbits and those little devil guys marked down after Blackstar was cancelled, because I spent my entire childhood trying to figure out what series they were from.
Yeah that is not too surprising, they looked very MOTU but not
I had the same thing with a cylon figure. He was roughly the same size as my star wars figures but I never saw him in the movies.
Trobbits = tree hobbits
God I love those original Bravestarr figure boxes. I don't even know why.
Well memories of childhood!
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Well thank you! I am thrilled you are enjoying. Welcome.
Now I've got to re watch BraveStar now. ThankQ.TkEZ>UK
Don't blame me!
I always thought Crystar was meant to compete with star wars figures, as they were the same size. I also remember them coming out before MOTU. I still think it's wild that Frank Miller designed that toyline.
Well Star Wars as well, both MOTU and SW were kinds of the aisle back then.
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0:21: “Welcome back to the Spector Creative Channel, I’m your host Scott “ToyGuru” Neitlich, and today I’m presenting our new additions for the MattyCollector 2021 Masters Of The Universe Classics lineup!”
If only!
As a child i had thudercat Slyyth and the 2 headed dragon Galaxy Warrior Hydra in my heman collection
Yup, back then so many toys looked like they could be MOTU. Many on purpose
It must be impossibly difficult to acquire some of these licenses. It seems that Super7, Mezco, NECA, or someone would’ve already resurrected Blackstar, Bravestarr, Thundarr (aside from Toynami), or Crystar. Patiently waiting as I’m sure it’s bound to happen.
And a lot if because the min guarantee can not be met
I was part of a group that came really close to buying Bravestarr whole hog in the early 2000's. I regret not pushing harder, and it ended up selling as a package with a bunch of other stuff that basically just got regurgitated into Wal-Mart dollar bin DVDs. Last I reached out for a comic option, they wanted a super high guarantee that was just unrealistic.
Dang it Scot now I want there to be MOTU crossovers with Bravestarr and Blackstar. I know different IPs but man that would be sweet.
And I want to see Star Wars vs Spiderman. Maybe Disney can make that happen?
Educational as always, Scott.
Glad to hear it!
Also the Rio Blast character defenitely felt like a bridge character with Bravestarr with the Space Cowboy look and theme.
Kinda did
Also, so to get this straight:
Mattel owned MOTU and licensed the animated to Filmation
Filmation owned Bravestarr and licensed the toy rights to Mattel
Filmation also owner Blackstar, which they licensed the toy rights to Galoob
Sidenote: Galoob distributed the NES GameGenie.
Yes, but Mattel sold MOTU in the 1990's and Universal owns it now
I always wondered why you never made a Classics version of my favorite character - _The Almighty Algorithm._
Oh he was going to be the SDCC figure for 2017.
I think that very last point was the real question. 'Why didn't you guys get the licenses to include them'. Not having the rights is easy enough to understand... but the hopes that they would GET the rights was another thing. Especially since Super7 seems to be doing something similar with their 'ultimates' collection with MOTU, Thundercats, TMNT, and supposedly Silverhawks all coming down the line on similar scaled figures... that was the 'dream'.
Especially Blackstar for me. I always wanted him, overlord, and the Dragon... Something about the new 'lore' about the 'sword of he' being seperated and protected throughout time by various guardians... and the swords changing shape and color based on who held them!?! Oooohhh MAN that just made Blackstar easy to slide in as one of the various 'He-men' through out history.
Because convincing Management to acquire a license for such a small brand as Mattycollector was not something that could happen. There just wasn't enough potential revenue to justify it
Two franchise that are worth relaunch. But Bravestar has a lot of potential.
It does!
I think we all get that...what we wanted was for Mattel to license the properties. Still do for Origins.
Scott I love hour insight and willingness to share your insight, simply for the overall health of our collector hobbies. It really does help to debunk so many misinformed assumptions that so many of us have. We tend to assume validity to claims because our communities are small enough to act as echo chambers, but large enough to seem like an actual majority.
Good on you and I watch everything you do because I too am passionate about toys, and that includes learning every piece of trivial minutiae that we can.
I would therefore like to ask if you could talk about what it was like putting in orders with factories... maybe talking about color swatches or pantones. Maybe show some of the more visually interesting forms that went in one of your monthly MOTUC orders, and the general practices that go into bringing anl idea and what it takes to bring that to life. Oh I can't wait. I yearn for any knowledge about tot making, and you are one of the BEST sources of information in that catagory. Please never stop. Word.
Well thank you for the very kind words and the topic suggestion. I'll add that to the list!
Young man that was great history and wonderful show. From the sledgemaster
Great to hear from you again Sledge
I wonder how many of the questions about combining MOTU with other properties were inspired by the GI Joe figure of the M.A.S.K. character that came out several years ago. I remember reading about that one in ToyFare Magazine and being intrigued with the idea of M.A.S.K. being a separate division of G.I. Joe
Not without merit! But in the MASK case both properties were/are owned by Hasbro
One day...Marshall Bravestar team up with MOTU outside my playground...I can still see Marshall ride beside BattleCat with Heman going " There goes one brave Lawman!"
Ha!
Is Tarzan's toy line (1978) based on the Filmation version ??
I don't think it was officially.
It's hard for me to watch this video. It just reminds me of the painful 1970's - mid 1990's basement remodelling toy purge of 1997 😖. I found out what happened to my stuff AFTER the remodel was completed. I didn't speak to my dad for almost 3 years out of anger.
when i was like 10 in 2014 i swear i used to see Eternia in the background of brave stars intro
Oh backgrounds did get reused by Filmation!
While I would absolutely love some bravestarr classics figures, it actually baffled me how many people didn't know how the licensing worked.
And I still get asked this question weekly! Maybe this video will stop the flow
You gave. Imus the best. Motu action figures ever created and I doubt some one else. Give os something remotely. Similar. I lpve you and the horsemen for that
And it would be. Awesome to have a modern bravestar. Figure.
It would have, but alas that license was just not possible
Thanks for clearing that up. I always thought Bravestarr was a mattel property like MOTU.
It is funny how many do!
Thank you for that info. But what I would like to know is, did you ever play with the thought trying to convince the top brass at Mattel to get Bravestarr or Blackstar? Or was it something you never consider it?
I would have loved some easter eggs in the Horde World map of the Universe to New Texas (Bravestarr's home world) or Sagar (Blackstar's homeworld)
Oh of course I thought about the idea, but Mattycollector was just too small of a brand to acquire it's own brands
All these years I thought Coridite and Kerium were the same red power crystal so no loophole there. It may be worth noting that even if there was a shared Filmation universe- Bravestarr would be in the far future of MOTU assuming Marlena's Earth was roughly now and no weird time travel for the wormholes. Likewise one could easily consider Marlena and John Blackstar colleagues.
As much as it would be cool for them to be in a shared universe, until Universal changes things, at this time they are not
Great video. The only points deducted are for not having George Peppard from Battle Beyond the Stars in your space cowboy montage 😀
Darn. Missed that one! Shoot
Thanks so much for your videos. They have been inspiring/informative for the journey I’ve been on.
Well I am so glad to hear! Please feel free to share with others online, it helps the channel a ton!
Very welcome will do. I’ve learned a lot. Really like the one you did on Jacky Kirby 4th world and the influence it had on the motu line
The Blackstar Dragon did appear in an episode of MOTU. As a kid I somehow got it and it was perfectly in scale with my MOTU figures. My He-Man got to ride it the same as he did on the show. Granted it was a different color in both appearances but, since it was in the Filmation show could you have produced a figure of it if there was enough fan demand to do so? As a kid I really enjoyed having a different creature for He-Man to ride and it was kind of neat to you have that particular one.
I"m sure as lot of animation was cycled through, but still not the same IP
I had noticed this past year that kerium (the fictional commodity from the Bravestarr series) is mentioned in He-Man & She-Ra: A Christmas Special from 1985, which made me wonder if Bravestarr had been intended as a spinoff of MOTU. While I really enjoy some of the villain designs from that property (Tex Hex, Thunder Stick, and Sandstorm), the hero line-up was incredibly weak. Marshal Bravestarr and 30/30 aside, they really dropped the ball on an opportunity to create a Magnificent 7 of space heroes utilizing wild combinations of western/sci-fi/and fantasy archetypes. Instead we got a bartender who throws his hat, a judge with a techno-gavel, and an annoying prairie dog dwarf. They really could have knocked it out of the park with the characters. No archer character? No lasso expert? I understand that certain tropes like gamblers, prostitutes, and undertakers needed to be avoided, but man, they left a lot of good stuff out.
It may have just been another Easter Egg inside joke. The properties are definitely not related. But good catch!
Great video. Just one thing. It was the the Bravestar villain, not Bravestar himself, that was originally designed for the Ghostbusters cartoon that inspried the Bravestar show.
Point taken!
How much does it usually cost to acquire a license? Is there a range? Or is it contingent on sales? Half and half? A video on this would be really interesting. How to find out who owns the rights, what the agreement looks like...
It depends on the minimum guarantee. I'll make a video about this to explain!
I was always curious about this because I noted so much in common between the shows.
Yes, look wise they felt very similar
In my own personal headcanon, Sagar was split into Eternia & Etheria by Mara, with the Gar on Eternia being descendants of some of Sagar's refugees :)
I see Bravestarr & Rio Blast as being the MOTU-verse equivalent of Green Lanterns :P
See I think our own canons are the best of all because they are limitless.
Sagar = Sammy Hagar
I would love new Classics style Blackstar figures.
We all would!
Was it ever explored? How much could these licenses have cost? We're in the zone of opportunity for these retro lines. Mattel should've made them then and they certainly should be looking into it now.
Nope. It was not legally possible so it was never explored.
Interesting. Thanks. I'm probably one of the few who doesn't want a crossover or inclusion of other properties in MOTU.
Well at least now you also know why this can't happen!
I had some of MOTU,Blackstarr,and Bravestarr figures.
Yeah they mixed well in the toy box
Blackstar was awesome! I always had my Bravestar fight Skeleton because he was a better villain.