Maybe it would be fair to say that with dumbells you can "learn" better how to "use" the muscle you're targeting in that specific exercise, I mean, I'm talking about start with dumbell curls so you can perform better when you decide to do cable curls
Simply on the days were you need rest but don’t wanna go, make sure it’s a leg day :), eventually you will either decide not to or due to your legs which are so sore that it will be hard to walk. Benefit of getting big legs if you actually take some rest instead of overworking them 👍
Bro how does Janicki pull these big words out of nowhere lol, expecting him to say “I pick things up and put them down”, and then he says “efficaciously” and it’s like….what
Cables May be better but we have to take into consideration that family men often Can only train at peak gym hours. Bringing over a bench to a free cable station using both sides Can be a huge hassle compared to picking up some dumbbells & doing alternating curls
@@genericnickname1when the body is focused on doing two things at once, you lose overall force exertion. Biceps can be done in a balanced manner while alternating so they’re unique in that way to maximize muscle growth.
I’ve found that paying a little extra for a 24 hour access, much more serious gym has allowed me to fit in lifts whenever I want to/am able to as a head of household single income family dad. If it’s available in your area maybe worth a look. Also, higher price means a typically more serious population and less of the more obnoxious people in the gym
@wojciechsawicki4733 if you're big enough your upper arm can't hang perpendicular to the floor when your standing straight. You will always have to lean towards the side you're working on. Also to avoid the dumbbells hitting your legs every time. It's just smarter to do a whole single arm set after the other or alternate the sides during your set.
Dr. Mike dropping facts about recovery. Maybe going backpacking on my days off, then working a job 10-12hr days and 3x lifting sessions and maybe today I should sit down and eat some steak
@@seattlegrrlie he’s preached recovery days as exactly so, little to no activity. Can’t build if we don’t rest. It is tough though, when you do have backpacking as a hobby, cause the hiking part is definitely mentally recovering, but body taxing.
His recovery pod on Modern Wisdom changed the game for me. I work 6 days a week with half of those being double shifts and the occasional triple shift on some Thursdays. I train in the morning before work and focus on getting proper meals in, but I am working hard to prioritize recovery at this point in the game
With the first myth, its important to know that while both options will build a large back if done right, they won't be the same back. "Thick" is only one dimension of appearance. Arnold talks a lot in his encyclopedia about how guys who added heavy barbell work into their routines had a density to their muscle that guys only doing volume did not have. The visual aspect of the muscle was different. And if you set out to build a big back through heavy barbell work, its a different route. You tax your CNS and connective tissue more. The pros to this are you also train your CNS and CT, which is part of being strong. The cons are its much harder on the body. Isolation lets you further train the muscle, but doesn't train those other ket aspects nearly as much. Best option is to do both routes. But when people say "thick" instead of just "big" they often also mean strong or full back, and thats where the barbell work comes in.
I think folks need to start using “ultraprocessed” vs just processed in terms of food. Food scientists also have a nomenclature around this because all cooking is processing. All washing, maceration, etc that you do to prep a meal is processing.
i think the point is the state of the food when the money left your bank account. if it was "inedible" spare parts that needed processing to be consumed, then that's "non processed" for the sake of this conversation. or something that your grand parents could've bought at the store vs what they couldn't have bought. a lot of modern processed food are ehanced to make you want to eat more, because business
no one asked but my opinion on 12:45 is that this question is so nuanced that both true and false are technically right, if accounting for nothing other than the question itself and taking it at face value in a vacuum then it would be false because at the end of the day if calories and macronutrients are identical you will get just as lean regardless but because real life is more complex than that its definitely more on the true side because of whats mentioned by you guys
the processed food causes inflamation and another couple of unwanted sideffects to your whole system which reduces the effectivness of almost everything your trying to do in the gym especially in the runup to a comp. this means you can't do as much work to get lean also it causes water retention .
I've got another one: Intensity is more important than tracking and programming. So far I've just been going all out and not thinking about other things but I've hit a huge plateau and I'm wondering if I have to rethink my training
I would say many athletes think the programming is more important to the extent of never adding on micro or change plates or avoiding the extra rep or set, and as bad is never removing a rep or set or smaller plate because the program says this on the day. But, will say just taking sessions as hard as possible may mean the recovery is spent on excess fatigue, especially to connective tissue, and therefore you're trying as hard as you can for the session rather than a set amount of hard which is recoverable. definitely if you stop progressing and lack a reason why, the only way to figure this out is recording.
Training to failure indefinitely is not recommended. At some point your fatigue peaks and you’ll plateau and you’ll need to deload. But there’s many different ways to train.
You answered your own question. If you tracked you'd develop pattern-recognition. You would know when/how to change up your routine to avoid plateauing.
In a perfect world, I vastly prefer cables over dumbbells but for my lifestyle and the setup at my gym I typically don’t incorporate them into programs much. I often work out at home, where I have a pull-up/dip/leg raise thing, a bench, and dumbbells. No access to cables. So for the sake of consistency, no matter where I am, I lean on dumbbells in my programs. When I do make it to the gym, there also aren’t very many cable stacks available, it’s also a super busy gym, and I am not there to stand there for all eternity waiting for one to open up. Consistency over perfection.
psychotics club here but in a super unhealthy way, 25 years of 6-8 months in the gym breaking myself and 2-3 months of burn out, lots of my version of mikes russian childhood memories
whilst I accept that cables are better than dumb bells , they have to be positioned correctly and most guys I watch have no idea how to set the cables to the correct position or height.
Absolutely wish they hit more on that, I’ve learned when I focused more on getting the weight up more than my form….. that over time my form becomes even better with the same weight I was lugging up previously. They become synergistic in the end as long as the intensity is there forsure.
Deadlifts are a low back, ham, and glute exercise, I’d classify them as “weight lifting” exercise than a bodybuilding one, because generally, for a guy, that posterior chain isn’t part of being “aesthetic”, for lifting things sure but not for a visual enhancement, but girls, that’s another story….
deadlifts: lowback = isometric forearm flexors = isometric traps = isometric hamstrings = pseudoisometric (the hamstrings shorten as the hips extend and lengthen as the knees extend staying relatively the same length) glutes = big stretch, full rom. quads = shortened partial conclusion, the deadlift is a great glute exercise, a poor quad exercise and a terrible trap, lowback, hamstring and forearm exercise.
@@Djdkdkdndkzn1yeah but not everyone got all day for 10 different isolation exercises that one deadlift session can replace. Maybe it won't be "optimal", but if it gets you 70% of the way...
I feel like Eric doesn’t give enough credit to Mike and RP. All of his knowledge, the way he speaks, terminology, etc, all sound very similar to how Mike and Jared talk…I dunno maybe it’s just me 🤷♂️
If you train in a home gym and only have barbells, dumbbells, and free weights, then yes, rows and deadlifts will be the most efficacious route to a thick back just due to not having all the pulleys and machines to your avail
Keto (and more strict) also works really well for people because not only fiber but ketones are an appetite suppressant as well. It's not for everyone though.
After hearing the wild variation of what works from giant sets with 10 min rest from Robert Feesey to the high intensity low volume stuff (jay vincent trains every 2 weeks )to the high volume less weight squeeze of Joel Kellet (best chest ever) it becomes painfully obvious that there is literally a million ways to skin this cat, pick one for awhile you like and can stick to :)
The only consistent training style is the bodypart «bro» split. Lou Ferrigno’s training video from the 90’s looks exactly like what pros do today. Meanwhile high intensity, Mike mentzer, giant sets, push pull legs etc are trends that come & go
Trends? Go to Mr America Heart or Jay Vincent , or go through longevity muscles interviews with many natural champs all training differently, they are training many clients and competitors as we speak, Joel Kellet also looks amazing and competes with the opposite training style lol, if you mean mainstream bodybuilders use the bro split more often because of marketing sure, but when it come to the science of it, you’ve got options, what the mainstream does doesn’t make it correct or the only way, but if thinking there is only one way is what works for you and you make gains hey then thats what works for you
Yeah intensity is the common denominator, there’s plenty of cookie cutter personal trainers and their clients, doing ultra perfect form, and yet, don’t necessarily look much better or look more muscular
Yeah leaner foods get you leaner because of fiber and satiation, a banana can be 100 calories, and so can a small bag of fruit snacks, but….im going to WANT to eat more with the fruit snacks than the banana
Dorian Yates did actually deadlift at the end of his back workout almost every time. When he was not deadlifting, he was doing heavy hyperextensions with a barbell.
How are you meant to develop your spinal erectors and low back without heavy deadlifts or rows? I suppose Jefferson Curls and Back extensions could work.
They aren’t saying don’t do them for your back. They’re just saying you don’t HAVE to do ONLY them for your back. There are many variations that could work.
Dorian did rack pulls, without the rack lol. Watch blood and guts, I think he goes just below the knee and keeps it limited to that. He did deadlifts, but he limited the range because he only wanted to train his back, not his quads, glutes, hamstrings, etc.
Guys. There's literally no difference between 'high quality non processed foods', and 'proccessed foods'... if the macro's and micronutrients are exactly the same. Fibre IS a macronutrient, therefore it is included in what's equated. You can say the question didn't include micronutrients, but I think the person asking the question likely intended for that to be included. You even made extra assumptions, that processed food is harder to digest... no it's not, it's often easier digested. People see the word 'processed', and they just cannot help but equate it to meaning bad, even experts in a field. Why would processed foods cause more stress to a system. Why?
I think we are getting into semantics but…. hyper-palatability, calorie density and nutrient content are the big difference. You seem like you know this though, so I think we’re just being pedantic. Calories are king, but we are also dealing with real life and not an isolated vacuum. There ARE processed foods that have decent macros, but that absolutely does not describe MOST of the processed food that MOST people would be consuming. As a general recommendation, advising people that whole foods are superior to processed foods is a totally valid suggestion IMO because it’s nearly always true when looking at the shelf at the store.
I honestly assumed you'd both say false to high quality foods. But I assumed you have unlimited diet adherence in that question where the only difference is the food "quality" and not your personal capabilities. Great video to watch regarding the overtraining practical discussion: today in judo I couldn't properly sprint in the warm up because quads started feeling like logs and it was like sprinting with numb legs - managed to sprint but couldn't get it to feel like the quads were working and I was actively pushing power, I was slightly exhausted to start and at the end the shoulder and upper back region was on fire. I decided to skip olympic weightlifting training after judo for today in the end. Been stuffing about as much as I can eat (have been back to spoonfuls of peanut butter every time at the fridge, mayo on every bread and we don't put mayo on bread here, drinking chocolate milk instead of milk) yet still seems like at the verge of losing weight if even one day is more relaxed eating. Gotta know when to pull the gas pedal off the floor, I don't want to end up feeling like Dr. Mike described again: fever/flu like after training and then perhaps getting actually sick for real and taking weeks off involuntarily.
Shame on me for labelling Eric a meathead by appearance alone. . Adding to the conversation (vs just agreeing with a nod) with Dr. Mike is no small feat, subscirbed ✅
Registered for the Vegas seminar and really looking forward to it. I haven’t seen a venue specified yet. Any word? Would also like to upgrade to add the open gym session but don't see an option to do that online. If anyone has a contact, I'd appreciate it.
Most coaches keep tellin us technique.. ,form , stretch position is important what they all choose not mention is nutrition without enough calories you'll never gain weight without enough proteine you'll never build muscles or recover. How to train comes second to what you eat.
Eric i love you but this gym audio is brutal. in the future for 1 on 1 style videos i think some mics would make a huge difference. could just be the cheap wired ones that clip to your shirt, doesn't have to be anything fancy. otherwise this was an awesome video, found your channel from RP's video on their channel
I agree with that, lazy ppl need to work harder and get motivated, but hard working highly motivated ppl, need to back off, being high tier level of exertion, and going further, that’s where the body says nope, and something happens
The rocket analogy is not the most apt Yes air resistance is a factor but it isn't anywhere near 50/50. Countering earth's gravitational pull is a way way way larger force to overcome than air resistance, especially when you get higher in the air Any horizontal travelling object would be a much better analogy
I love the full back activation i get from deadlifts. I usually warm up with some slow pullups and stretches where im more or less just trying to feel my muscles. I only deadlift once every two weeks. Start that workout with deadlifts and its like the rest of my workout after deads every mind muscle connection in my back is through the roof. Almost like a jumpstart in my whole back. I think theyre great as long as you dont overdo them
For some reason I don't get a great deal of growth in my lats even though I get a lot of activation in my lats. However I do seem to get an amazing traps stimulus that I don't really get with trap specific exercises. Everyone is different and it's important to understand what works for you and explore all the options to find the best for your scenario
INTENSITY is the biggest missing piece w/ the ppl who listen to this. DB’s demand a high level generally than Cables. So cables become better the closer you look to an Open PRO!
overtraining happens more often in athletics there are a few triatheletes and some runners who have ended there careers because of it . i think there are a number of cyclists as well .
Eric was fighting rage heavy when he saw Mikes ‘False’ on the cables v dumbbells question 😂
Maybe it would be fair to say that with dumbells you can "learn" better how to "use" the muscle you're targeting in that specific exercise, I mean, I'm talking about start with dumbell curls so you can perform better when you decide to do cable curls
Mike is a big guy. So the fact he looks small next to Eric is insane.
Height exists? lol
So insane that a guy 6'1" looks bigger than a guy 5'5". Like, WOW dude. Absolutely nuts.
The heavy duty camping chair doesn’t help too it looks like he’s in a high chair
@@robertauclair2278 not just height Eric is literally 290lbs and Mike is 255-260 at peak bulk and just had a show so probably closer to 245-250.
@@stevegasparmore like 220.
mike is a mix of experienced training and science training
His genetics are horrible
And a lot of adhd
He possesses declarative and procedural knowledge and application
And a motherload of condescending & pathic touch
And steroids and anxiety
Word of the day: behoove
And "like"
Bee Hoof
Except it's spelled 'behove' 🤓
@@kksf1481 US English it’s two o’s
EXAAAAACTLY!!!
My problem is I need to take more rest days and probably should reload but I just can’t stop being a psychopath in the gym every day. Im addicted
Simply on the days were you need rest but don’t wanna go, make sure it’s a leg day :), eventually you will either decide not to or due to your legs which are so sore that it will be hard to walk. Benefit of getting big legs if you actually take some rest instead of overworking them 👍
Jealous of you
Deloads weeks are mentally challenging 😅😅
Just make them active rest days, go on a short hike, do bodyweight only exercise, cut your weight and reps in half, etc etc
@@MsOdd86 I do jump rope, forearm excersizes and stretches on rest days XD
Bro how does Janicki pull these big words out of nowhere lol, expecting him to say “I pick things up and put them down”, and then he says “efficaciously” and it’s like….what
Take a shot every time he says efficacious
It’s his favorite way to say effectively
@@cdrtej
That would expeditiously result in supraphysiological levels of inebriation
Or behoove@@cdrtej
vector force bro!
Eric is the capybara of the fitness industry, he gets along with everyone!
Cables May be better but we have to take into consideration that family men often Can only train at peak gym hours. Bringing over a bench to a free cable station using both sides Can be a huge hassle compared to picking up some dumbbells & doing alternating curls
why would you do them alternating though, it's almost always worse than doing them both arms at the same time
@@genericnickname1when the body is focused on doing two things at once, you lose overall force exertion. Biceps can be done in a balanced manner while alternating so they’re unique in that way to maximize muscle growth.
You should before work depending on how early you go in. Better crowds.
I’ve found that paying a little extra for a 24 hour access, much more serious gym has allowed me to fit in lifts whenever I want to/am able to as a head of household single income family dad. If it’s available in your area maybe worth a look. Also, higher price means a typically more serious population and less of the more obnoxious people in the gym
@wojciechsawicki4733 if you're big enough your upper arm can't hang perpendicular to the floor when your standing straight. You will always have to lean towards the side you're working on. Also to avoid the dumbbells hitting your legs every time. It's just smarter to do a whole single arm set after the other or alternate the sides during your set.
I am efficaciously behooved........🤯
Dr. Mike dropping facts about recovery. Maybe going backpacking on my days off, then working a job 10-12hr days and 3x lifting sessions and maybe today I should sit down and eat some steak
@@seattlegrrlie carbs
I just randomly saw your comment and the seattle in your name. I'm watching from white center / Burien neighbor hahahaha 🤟😎🤟
@@seattlegrrlie he’s preached recovery days as exactly so, little to no activity. Can’t build if we don’t rest. It is tough though, when you do have backpacking as a hobby, cause the hiking part is definitely mentally recovering, but body taxing.
All my "off" days include a 5 mile walk/hike/run. Off doesn't have to mean potato, it can also just be some low intensity movement.
His recovery pod on Modern Wisdom changed the game for me. I work 6 days a week with half of those being double shifts and the occasional triple shift on some Thursdays. I train in the morning before work and focus on getting proper meals in, but I am working hard to prioritize recovery at this point in the game
Mike in 2x speed when listening looks like a grandmaster in chess thinking hard
Mike looks disappointed Eric isn't laughing at his jokes
Im watching this with the context of "bodybuilding" in mind and not for other sports
I never hear anyone talk about corn. I quite like corn. Is corn a reasonable carb source within a healthy diet? Or perhaps at least a decent "treat"?
Most items are made from corn in today’s markets.
High in fiber, some slow carbs, easy to portion, corn is great! Just keep the butter under control.
Percept corn as a part "whole grains" category.
@@coldbeer8899you forgot starch
corn
This is pure gold! Probably my favorite video from you two!
With the first myth, its important to know that while both options will build a large back if done right, they won't be the same back. "Thick" is only one dimension of appearance.
Arnold talks a lot in his encyclopedia about how guys who added heavy barbell work into their routines had a density to their muscle that guys only doing volume did not have. The visual aspect of the muscle was different.
And if you set out to build a big back through heavy barbell work, its a different route. You tax your CNS and connective tissue more. The pros to this are you also train your CNS and CT, which is part of being strong. The cons are its much harder on the body.
Isolation lets you further train the muscle, but doesn't train those other ket aspects nearly as much.
Best option is to do both routes.
But when people say "thick" instead of just "big" they often also mean strong or full back, and thats where the barbell work comes in.
I think folks need to start using “ultraprocessed” vs just processed in terms of food. Food scientists also have a nomenclature around this because all cooking is processing. All washing, maceration, etc that you do to prep a meal is processing.
And the fact that I would laud yogurt, which is processed, way above an also processed protein bar.
i think the point is the state of the food when the money left your bank account. if it was "inedible" spare parts that needed processing to be consumed, then that's "non processed" for the sake of this conversation.
or something that your grand parents could've bought at the store vs what they couldn't have bought. a lot of modern processed food are ehanced to make you want to eat more, because business
no one asked but my opinion on 12:45 is that this question is so nuanced that both true and false are technically right, if accounting for nothing other than the question itself and taking it at face value in a vacuum then it would be false because at the end of the day if calories and macronutrients are identical you will get just as lean regardless but because real life is more complex than that its definitely more on the true side because of whats mentioned by you guys
Mind blowing response
the processed food causes inflamation and another couple of unwanted sideffects to your whole system which reduces the effectivness of almost everything your trying to do in the gym especially in the runup to a comp. this means you can't do as much work to get lean also it causes water retention .
hamstring veins is crazy, just upped my motivation for this cut
A. J b
Happy to see more colabs
Mikes voices remember me to Kevin from The Office.... man... hahahah
I've got another one:
Intensity is more important than tracking and programming.
So far I've just been going all out and not thinking about other things but I've hit a huge plateau and I'm wondering if I have to rethink my training
I would say many athletes think the programming is more important to the extent of never adding on micro or change plates or avoiding the extra rep or set, and as bad is never removing a rep or set or smaller plate because the program says this on the day.
But, will say just taking sessions as hard as possible may mean the recovery is spent on excess fatigue, especially to connective tissue, and therefore you're trying as hard as you can for the session rather than a set amount of hard which is recoverable. definitely if you stop progressing and lack a reason why, the only way to figure this out is recording.
Training to failure indefinitely is not recommended. At some point your fatigue peaks and you’ll plateau and you’ll need to deload.
But there’s many different ways to train.
You answered your own question. If you tracked you'd develop pattern-recognition. You would know when/how to change up your routine to avoid plateauing.
Love these collabs.
In a perfect world, I vastly prefer cables over dumbbells but for my lifestyle and the setup at my gym I typically don’t incorporate them into programs much.
I often work out at home, where I have a pull-up/dip/leg raise thing, a bench, and dumbbells. No access to cables. So for the sake of consistency, no matter where I am, I lean on dumbbells in my programs.
When I do make it to the gym, there also aren’t very many cable stacks available, it’s also a super busy gym, and I am not there to stand there for all eternity waiting for one to open up.
Consistency over perfection.
psychotics club here but in a super unhealthy way, 25 years of 6-8 months in the gym breaking myself and 2-3 months of burn out, lots of my version of mikes russian childhood memories
Dorian Yates actually did deadlifts. In blood & guts he does deadlifts (to mid chin) on back day & stiff legged deadlifts on leg day.
Doesn’t mean that’s most optimal
Deadlifts to mid chin? Bro's technique was clearly terrible. 😂
What? He did a full deadlift up to his face? So it was a 50lbs deadlift?
Was a Romanian Deadlift, actually
you mean an upright row?
whilst I accept that cables are better than dumb bells , they have to be positioned correctly and most guys I watch have no idea how to set the cables to the correct position or height.
Technique vs intensity was a super interesting topic
Absolutely wish they hit more on that, I’ve learned when I focused more on getting the weight up more than my form….. that over time my form becomes even better with the same weight I was lugging up previously. They become synergistic in the end as long as the intensity is there forsure.
Absolutely awesome video, Eric. So many great nuggets of information.
Skibidi toilet
Excellent reasonable conversation
Deadlifts are a low back, ham, and glute exercise, I’d classify them as “weight lifting” exercise than a bodybuilding one, because generally, for a guy, that posterior chain isn’t part of being “aesthetic”, for lifting things sure but not for a visual enhancement, but girls, that’s another story….
Hehehehehe
Yeah but there are better exercises for every single on of those muscles than dead stop deadlifts
deadlifts:
lowback = isometric
forearm flexors = isometric
traps = isometric
hamstrings = pseudoisometric (the hamstrings shorten as the hips extend and lengthen as the knees extend staying relatively the same length)
glutes = big stretch, full rom.
quads = shortened partial
conclusion, the deadlift is a great glute exercise, a poor quad exercise and a terrible trap, lowback, hamstring and forearm exercise.
@@Djdkdkdndkzn1yeah but not everyone got all day for 10 different isolation exercises that one deadlift session can replace. Maybe it won't be "optimal", but if it gets you 70% of the way...
@@rupert909 i have powerlifter in my gym who has like insane traps , tom hardy level from deadlifting 300kg
Erics shoulders wow - great convo guys
love you too definitely keep making videos together
The goat ! 💪🏼
I feel like Eric doesn’t give enough credit to Mike and RP. All of his knowledge, the way he speaks, terminology, etc, all sound very similar to how Mike and Jared talk…I dunno maybe it’s just me 🤷♂️
10:25 so if I train intensely and with proper technique I’m what?
You heard the man. Get to it.
Dorian did partial deadlifts all the time
The first one reminds me of Jason Blaha . He claimed exactly that.
“Muhhh back is much bigger in person guise”
Everyone in the online fitness space claimed that 10 years ago. Every fake natty did powerlifting along with their tren injections
If you train in a home gym and only have barbells, dumbbells, and free weights, then yes, rows and deadlifts will be the most efficacious route to a thick back just due to not having all the pulleys and machines to your avail
Been training your guys style for a year now with intensity proper form and all and never lifted in my life , made some
Serious gains in one year ❤
90kg 6ft 3
natural and some what lean 💪
I'm so scared to slow down and lose progress
Very informative thank you guys !
Keto (and more strict) also works really well for people because not only fiber but ketones are an appetite suppressant as well. It's not for everyone though.
After hearing the wild variation of what works from giant sets with 10 min rest from Robert Feesey to the high intensity low volume stuff (jay vincent trains every 2 weeks )to the high volume less weight squeeze of Joel Kellet (best chest ever) it becomes painfully obvious that there is literally a million ways to skin this cat, pick one for awhile you like and can stick to :)
The only consistent training style is the bodypart «bro» split. Lou Ferrigno’s training video from the 90’s looks exactly like what pros do today. Meanwhile high intensity, Mike mentzer, giant sets, push pull legs etc are trends that come & go
Trends? Go to Mr America Heart or Jay Vincent , or go through longevity muscles interviews with many natural champs all training differently, they are training many clients and competitors as we speak, Joel Kellet also looks amazing and competes with the opposite training style lol, if you mean mainstream bodybuilders use the bro split more often because of marketing sure, but when it come to the science of it, you’ve got options, what the mainstream does doesn’t make it correct or the only way, but if thinking there is only one way is what works for you and you make gains hey then thats what works for you
Yeah intensity is the common denominator, there’s plenty of cookie cutter personal trainers and their clients, doing ultra perfect form, and yet, don’t necessarily look much better or look more muscular
I know that 50% for 5 reps/10 seconds for 3 to 6 sets feels amazing the next day. Most comfortable feeling ever, felt better than stretching.
Never seen this guy before! Dude is huge!
mike’s legs look diabolical
The look on Mike's face from the first second just screaming internally at the sheer size of Eric's arms. His side delts are bigger than Mike's quads.
I'd love your thoughts on the relative partitioning ratios of: glucose-based carbs vs fructose vs dietary fat.
This really helped me. Thanks.
waiting for Eric Bugenhagen react to this 😁
How can we become free out of that useless force?
RICK the STICK.
Need Dr. Density on the case.
Isn't that the dude from Final Fantasy
“Deadlifts dont build the erectors” cant wait lol
Yeah leaner foods get you leaner because of fiber and satiation, a banana can be 100 calories, and so can a small bag of fruit snacks, but….im going to WANT to eat more with the fruit snacks than the banana
You can really hear that economics degree come through when Eric talks. Everything is carefully calculated for maximum growth.
Easily a top 3 fitness duo
Dorian Yates did actually deadlift at the end of his back workout almost every time. When he was not deadlifting, he was doing heavy hyperextensions with a barbell.
How are you meant to develop your spinal erectors and low back without heavy deadlifts or rows?
I suppose Jefferson Curls and Back extensions could work.
They aren’t saying don’t do them for your back. They’re just saying you don’t HAVE to do ONLY them for your back. There are many variations that could work.
Dorian did rack pulls, without the rack lol. Watch blood and guts, I think he goes just below the knee and keeps it limited to that. He did deadlifts, but he limited the range because he only wanted to train his back, not his quads, glutes, hamstrings, etc.
Mike looks microscopic next to Eric
Eric's arms are ridiculous. His one bicep is as thick as his head.
Yea but he sitting in a chair talking and he’s out of breath. Hop off the roids my guy, you can’t even handle talking
Well that's what roids do for ya
@MsTriangle nope it's 2 guys roided to the max...that's what genetics do for you
Greg doucette watching with anger over this one,
Doesnt matter what you do, greg is always watching with anger
Angrier than last time.
@@balaklava6420BUY MY FRICKING COOKBOOK !!
Your sentence structure has given me brain cancer thanks a lot..
Why would Greg care about a video like this? Bros living in your head rent free mate
This 100% Goggins motivation etc. can be helpful for the underachiever but harmful to the guy or gal who is already pushing the envelope.
Guys. There's literally no difference between 'high quality non processed foods', and 'proccessed foods'... if the macro's and micronutrients are exactly the same. Fibre IS a macronutrient, therefore it is included in what's equated. You can say the question didn't include micronutrients, but I think the person asking the question likely intended for that to be included.
You even made extra assumptions, that processed food is harder to digest... no it's not, it's often easier digested.
People see the word 'processed', and they just cannot help but equate it to meaning bad, even experts in a field.
Why would processed foods cause more stress to a system. Why?
I think we are getting into semantics but…. hyper-palatability, calorie density and nutrient content are the big difference. You seem like you know this though, so I think we’re just being pedantic. Calories are king, but we are also dealing with real life and not an isolated vacuum. There ARE processed foods that have decent macros, but that absolutely does not describe MOST of the processed food that MOST people would be consuming. As a general recommendation, advising people that whole foods are superior to processed foods is a totally valid suggestion IMO because it’s nearly always true when looking at the shelf at the store.
He said the word!! He said it!! Was Janicki a senior NCO at some point? "Behoove" Lol
I honestly assumed you'd both say false to high quality foods. But I assumed you have unlimited diet adherence in that question where the only difference is the food "quality" and not your personal capabilities.
Great video to watch regarding the overtraining practical discussion: today in judo I couldn't properly sprint in the warm up because quads started feeling like logs and it was like sprinting with numb legs - managed to sprint but couldn't get it to feel like the quads were working and I was actively pushing power, I was slightly exhausted to start and at the end the shoulder and upper back region was on fire. I decided to skip olympic weightlifting training after judo for today in the end. Been stuffing about as much as I can eat (have been back to spoonfuls of peanut butter every time at the fridge, mayo on every bread and we don't put mayo on bread here, drinking chocolate milk instead of milk) yet still seems like at the verge of losing weight if even one day is more relaxed eating. Gotta know when to pull the gas pedal off the floor, I don't want to end up feeling like Dr. Mike described again: fever/flu like after training and then perhaps getting actually sick for real and taking weeks off involuntarily.
Mike should have played the comic sized wolverine
Shame on me for labelling Eric a meathead by appearance alone. . Adding to the conversation (vs just agreeing with a nod) with Dr. Mike is no small feat, subscirbed ✅
Greg is gonna tweak harder than last time over this one
Bro eric's shoulder are bigger than my quads
Dorian did deadlift all the time. He did RDL's as a finisher
Registered for the Vegas seminar and really looking forward to it. I haven’t seen a venue specified yet. Any word? Would also like to upgrade to add the open gym session but don't see an option to do that online. If anyone has a contact, I'd appreciate it.
Great idea for a video
Most coaches keep tellin us technique.. ,form , stretch position is important what they all choose not mention is nutrition without enough calories you'll never gain weight without enough proteine you'll never build muscles or recover. How to train comes second to what you eat.
Eric i love you but this gym audio is brutal. in the future for 1 on 1 style videos i think some mics would make a huge difference. could just be the cheap wired ones that clip to your shirt, doesn't have to be anything fancy. otherwise this was an awesome video, found your channel from RP's video on their channel
I could listen to dr mike all day
I agree with that, lazy ppl need to work harder and get motivated, but hard working highly motivated ppl, need to back off, being high tier level of exertion, and going further, that’s where the body says nope, and something happens
Only 2 types?
@@Jafmanz uh, you either need to go harder, or went too far, that’s about it
@@_baller so which of those was arnie? or dorian yates?
@@Jafmanz guess, hard enough doesn't exist for a true baller
@@qwerty-rh6ht you both sound like amateurs
The rocket analogy is not the most apt
Yes air resistance is a factor but it isn't anywhere near 50/50. Countering earth's gravitational pull is a way way way larger force to overcome than air resistance, especially when you get higher in the air
Any horizontal travelling object would be a much better analogy
Feels like I’m watching a false perspective strictly based on hand size.
The delts on this guy 🤯
I love the full back activation i get from deadlifts. I usually warm up with some slow pullups and stretches where im more or less just trying to feel my muscles. I only deadlift once every two weeks. Start that workout with deadlifts and its like the rest of my workout after deads every mind muscle connection in my back is through the roof. Almost like a jumpstart in my whole back. I think theyre great as long as you dont overdo them
For some reason I don't get a great deal of growth in my lats even though I get a lot of activation in my lats. However I do seem to get an amazing traps stimulus that I don't really get with trap specific exercises. Everyone is different and it's important to understand what works for you and explore all the options to find the best for your scenario
@@madmike987655 are you tall by any chance?
INTENSITY is the biggest missing piece w/ the ppl who listen to this. DB’s demand a high level generally than Cables. So cables become better the closer you look to an Open PRO!
@DocanoFitTest stole my place like Arnold Mike Mentzer's Olympia in 1980
I don’t do squats. Hate them. But I do lunges, bulgarian split squats, leg press, leg extensions, Don’t care what people say. Won’t do them.
. . . You should do squats 🐒🔥😎
Better sleep transforms physiques... Ok, time to snooze! Thanks for the push Dr Mike
Mike is my total crush … 😻
Half rep bros going to be doing quarter reps after hearing intensity is more important
Great to get some answers from such smart mfrs.
What’s that gadget on their wrists?
What’s bigger?? Eric’s bicep or mikes head
Dr. Mikes eyes have a full ROM
Hello Eric
October 10th in Vegas!!!
🔥 Vid
intensity over technique wins !
Two words: branch warren
i am always overhyped to train
i had problems like that
Does Eric use synthol
the camera couldnt identify Mike as a human lol
overtraining happens more often in athletics there are a few triatheletes and some runners who have ended there careers because of it . i think there are a number of cyclists as well .
Eric's arms looking huuuuge, geez
While mikes point with most-do exercises is correct. He is wrong when he says Yates didnt deadlift.
Also Eric stating that hinges don’t build the erectors is just plain wrong.
Erik, you've grown to be so massive.
How tf does Dr. Mike come up with these analogies