Switching to 32" 4K QD-OLED Monitor from the LG C2 42 OLED TV | Alienware AW3225QF
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- The Alienware AW3225QF is my new favorite OLED monitor to use for both gaming and productivity. Finally replacing the long standing LG OLED TVs (C2 42, CX 48) as my main computer setup display.
BUT... LG, MSI, ASUS, HP, will also be launching models later this year, which may be better options depending on the features you want.
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*Correction. It's 140 PPI. Ughh... YouTubing is hard... lol. I'll see you next year!*
*Update:* I Returned It. Taking my own advice to just wait and see what's to come.
Why next year?
@@suryavirkapur His videos are so good and inspired many to get the C2 yet he just uploads once a year.
Come on David
Just trying to recollect the old David Zhang for a moment.
Double ugh. It should be emphasized anyway. Happy accident.
Great video, have a great year
those scratches are absolutely INSANE, can't believe you were cool with that on a brand new product
Insane right
black colors look purple on the qd oled
@xxx333mmm_dreamstreamx3m yep, in every scenario but a dim or black room.
Had the G8 OLED and it was ridiculous how bad the black levels were in an average lit room. Went WLOED & haven't looked back.
@@OC.TINYYYYes. Pretty much in dim room qd oled beates woled with wider color gamut, better color accuracy and is more bright. In bright room on other hand qd oled black levels take a hit and basicly probably woled looks better.
I just got this and I have a fairly well-lit room (natural light from windows) and honestly the purple effect and black lift is barely or not even noticeable. It’s a major upgrade from my TN(?) though so maybe if you’re used to OLEDs you’d notice it more than I do.
See the Blacks not being that inky Black you come to expect from Oleds is a Deal Breaker for me. Thank you for this informative video.
yeah thats whats sucks about QD-OLED.
Bro this is only in a very lid room, using this in a controlled lighting it will even look more black than WOLED, what's Hardware unboxed for more information about this topic between WOLED and QD-OLEDs
@@Knox420 So what? Is there any QD-OLED without purple blacks out there???
If you buy LG you dont need to worry about purple. It always shows you blacks as black in any condition
@@tughantr06both have the same blacks, qd - oleds have raised black levels in a lit room like in this video
I can't lie that the desk setup looks so much more empty now. Feels like something is missing. Anyway that's a dope monitor! I personally have the LG Ultragear 45 inch and haven't looked back, although sometimes I do wish it was 4K
You're right. It's a little too minimal now (even for me.). But that might change soon...
@@HelloDavid Maybe a 2nd monitor?
Seems like a 2 or 3 screen set up makes the most sense here versus a Goldilocks spin @@HelloDavid
I'm waiting for 45" 5k2k or at least 39" 5k2k from LG
@@hungz1241_axa 45" OLED 4k or 5k would be the ultimate monitor for me
I've used the Alienware AW3423DW (the 34" ultrawide 1440p version), LG 45GR95QE, and recently swapped to the LG C3 42". Of all of them, the C3 is my favorite. The issues cited with the 4K 32" in this video are the reasons I sold my previous Alienware, and with the LG 45", it wasn't very bright, had poor pixel density at a 3440x1440, and awful matte coating. The LG 42" C3 however has been perfect in my use case and I feel negligible difference on 120 hz compared to 240 on an OLED. Try them all if possible at a store before deciding on one, I had to learn the hard way.
Do you use lg c2 for productivity tasks? Isnt it too much , i mean glossy, too large,cause you like staring at the lamp for several hours everyday.
@@NorthSea-xb7jk I do as I work on weekends sometimes and I haven't had any real problems with it. I work in a light controlled environment though so I can minimize the gloss. I did a lot more productivity on the Alienware QD-OLED as at that time I had a remote job, but the gloss was more semi-gloss then full on glossy.
Hi I want to buy a 32 4K OLED for productivity but I’m afraid of the text clarity and burn in issue
Can you help me ?
Okaaaay. I would consider that as a huge downgrade.
My thoughts exactly. The LG looks better and is bigger.
@@justinpatchin8353but does it have 240? No 😂
So many weird things in this video. Dude plays 21:9 windowed on a 32" because he thinks it's too big on the height?? Then just buy a 34" UW! His bright room is not made for QD-OLED at all, so just get some drapes and darken the room or stay with the LG that have superior coating. And please, for the low of god wipe down your screen, it's dusty af.
Honey wake up, the ultimate productivity desk setup guy has awoken too!
i bought the 48" LG oled tv, after watching your first setup review and i'm more than happy with it, also i created a fancyzone that divides my screen in 96 parts, and now i can choose the resolution without needing a small monitor.
Just a comment, i still didn't get a burned led, but also i'm not using a wallpaper, i understood that by not using the whole screen every minute i'm also saving its lifetime, and i don't see myself changing to a small monitor ever again
Your videos are awesome!
Can u link video to do that? I got a 48 inch and idk how to do it
You are the reason I purchased C2 42" to use it as a monitor. Thanks for all your hardwork and knowledge that you share. :)
me too. And I still using C2 as my perfect gaming and productivity
Same me but I using C3.
All that I am happy about is that David is back with a video!
I bought the LG 32EP950 OLED monitor in 2021. Great monitor, no doubt, but now in 2024 I have clearly visible burn-in artifacts. Something to keep in mind...
To me, for multitasking purposes, 32" is a drawback compared to 42 or48". Dual 32" would be a better option.
Yea exactly, I have a 48” c1 and a 34” ultrawide g8 qd-oled, best of both worlds. 16:9 32” is too small
Great review! I think the new C4 42" and QD 32" 4K OLED monitors are about the same price. I'm thinking of 42" for the productivity use. Not sure C4 has the new sub pixel layout, but how was the text clarity with your 42"? Thanks.
I have this monitor and it's fantastic. I am somewhat considering MSI's version of this panel, though, since I'm not fully convinced I like the curve at this size.
Me too. Also the lower price of the cheapest version. $949 they say.
Yeah that was my biggest concern with the 32" as well, the loss of screen real estate. From your review it seems that really is a big loss. I think the golden ticket monitor for productivity is going to be that newly announced Dell 40" ultrawide with a 5120x2160p and 120Hz IPS Black display. The previous gen of these panels that were only available in 16:9 60Hz offered double the native contrast over normal IPS panels and look absolutely fantastic. But then for media consumption these panels (or the new LG competitors to these that also feature better text clarity but also the dual-mode 480Hz stuff, better SDR performance if previous gen TV panels and announced specs are any indication and high refresh BFI) can't be beaten. I think the release of these monitors and the ultrawide is far enough spread that I could justify getting both anyway and just learn to live with a wall of screens. 😅
I agree. Those 40" ultrawides are my dream displays for productivity. Give me that in OLED and I can be done with all these upgrades. I am considering running a dual screen setup in the meanwhile though I think I'll need a bigger desk. haha
@@HelloDavid 100%, really miss my UW while trying out this monitor. I think I'll be returning the the QF and waiting for a Mini LED UW. The predator X34 v3 looks really interesting at the moment. Did you notice any eye strain with this monitor? I've been strangely getting eye fatigue and strain with this monitor which is really unfortunate because I'll be staring at this screen for 8 hours a day minimum for work.
@MrUltimateX No I haven't experienced eye strain with this.
0:38 oooh god those black levels are so awful! making me consider the lg panels. I also hate how this is curved D:
I'm scared of MSI quality control and also qd-oled burn in but I might grab that MSI model 0_0
I've got to say, those lifted magenta looking blacks completely kill the vibe for me. I asking myself - what is the point of having a theoretical infinite contrast ratio if the black levels are just going to be so grey in anything but a pitch black room?
After my 48 c2 i can't imagine going any smaller than the 42 version. a QD oled with 42 inch and 240hz would be perfect
Same, but with 38". Which is the sweet spot for me.
Tried a 42-inch TV as a computer desktop display, but it was too large when sitting at an arms lenght from it. Maybe if you sit further away I guess it’s fine. :)
@@staraffinityNever use fullscreen. Use it like a digital workspace table.
@@staraffinityYou can put it further away and then benefit from less strain on your eyes. People with tiny screens generally have them closer and the closer you have to focus the more strain your eyes go through which wears them out quicker.
Nice video as always... but dude you are the most flip flop person I've ever come across when it comes to tech + office. Yes Chroma Subsampling: 4:4:4 is important - nice to see you want though that many setups to realise this 😂.
I'm waiting for the HP Omen Transcend 32 inch. It comes with DisplayPort 2.1 and a built in KVM, and the same 3 year burn in warranty that Alienware comes with. I'm going to pull the trigger on it assuming it has good reviews and it's not insanely expensive.
You Back.....?🙃
it's good to see you back! as always, the video quality is amazing, super informative and your voice is just so calm
*NOT for productivity, alas.*
Tests show that new brighter OLEDs are way worse in terns of burn-ins, and the new QD-OLEDS are even worse still. So for games and films it is superb, but not for work.
The chap does not know it still, so he is naive about this. He will be surprised that his new monitor is worse than the old one is this key aspect.
This dude can't decide on a setup
Love all the new 32inch oled monitors, however not a fan of curved monitors.
For me the best productivity size was in the 38" 3840x1600 monitors from a few years ago. The extra 160px height compared to the mainstream resolutions helps a lot and it's a shame they seem to have been abandoned once more. You can also use 100% scaling. In my opinion 4K+ resolutions make no sense if you need to use scaling to see anything.
Yeah same, I've been trying out this monitor and going back to 16:9 as been really tough. I like the improved text clarity and image quality, but the productivity side of it really takes a hit. Something weird that's also been happening to me, and reported by other people on Reddit, is that this QD-OLED monitor causes eye strain, which again for work staring at this for 8 hours a day at minimum just sucks.
I'm probably going to return this monitor and wait for a Mini LED UW monitor that is hopefully the right compromise on both ends for me.
That's what I'm using right now and while I enjoy it, I really miss the 2160 vertical pixels from the 42" LG C2 for video editing. Really hoping the new 5120x2160 Dell U4025QW is around $1,500 within a few months of release so I can get that back. If the Samsung 57" G9 were IPS, it'd be on my desk right now.
@@CaseyHardman 40" 5k2k 240Hz RGB OLED is the holy grail.
There are 34" and 38" 5120x2160, 240Hz OLEDs on the way either by the very end of 2024, or early 2025. I think that will be my next upgrade from an LG 48C1 - though I expect they will all be curved while I would prefer flat like my LG.
38" ultrawide is awesome. Hopefully we get an OLED one soon
That's a shame about the blacks appearing grey. I feel that negates one of the OLED features that I desire: perfect blacks. I'll wait a bit to see if anything changes or how other models fare. Thanks for the review.
OH MY GOD ! A david zhang videoooooooooo dude post more videos
Hello there, while using HDMI connection, did you notice any flickering, did Gsync work correctly? You didn’t mention any issues with this topic but many others do. Please answer as I’m about ready to place an order
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Does anybody know what lamp socket David uses on the monitor arm @ 3:55 ? That’s such a great idea for a backlight!
It's an Ikea cord set attached with 3d printed mount. I just uploaded it here if you're curious. makerworld.com/en/models/159193#profileId-174740
I’m still a huge fan of my AW34 OLED
so good to see you back man
Welcome to Grey land 😂 what a nice downgrade
Sure, the LG has better blacks when a lot light reflects off the screen, but it also is way more reflective and acts more like a mirror. I would find those reflections too distracting I think. In my opinion, the coating on the Alienware is a good compromise, because it maintains the image clarity of glossy panels, while cutting down significantly on mirror like reflections. For true blacks, a dark room, or ideally, a pitch black one is needed anyway. I think IPS monitors can also look great during the day in a fairly bright room. It's at night, in a dim environment, where they fall apart, while OLED shows its strength.
I’m so conflicted. I need a new monitor/tv for gaming and watching content. I feel like 42 inches would be tro much for my desktop my room is not that big. So i’m also considering 27 inch oled monitor but it’s a monitor and it will not be as immersive for games and other stuff. Not to mention the price is similar, i guess 32 inch oled glossy tv would be the sweet spot but there just aren’t any out there.
No one's taking my LG CX 48" from me. It's advanced hardware based BFI is a lifesaver for a former CRT hold out. :)
I've only had it for a year. Got lucky on eBay. Thank you for the set up tips!
I do have mine farther back on a stand behind a corner desk and at 125% scaling. I don't think I could deal with a 42 or 48 inch as close as you had/have yours. Though your setup at the 2:00 mark does look really cool.
OLED without the inky blacks? But why?
0:23 This monitor is not 160ppi its 138ppi quite a bit difference. But still a beast of a monitor. Can’t wait for the ultrawide versions
I got a qd OLED and I regret it a lot, the black levels are bad and the hdr brightness is super low
The purple blacks are horrible
@@DAlbanese10 yeah they can be bad during the day if you can't block them. not insanely bad. but specially if right next to an LG it look sbad
Nah. That’s a downgrade. The blacks don’t look good at all, and that’s one of the reasons for OLED.
but rtings said qd oled is more susceptible to woled
and the magenta tint when there is ambient light is bad
because i usually use dark mode for some webpage and some apps, includin windows
where the hell have you been??
how the hell going from 42 inch c2 to 32inch monitor is a upgrade!? biger is always better
Glad to see a new video from you! I'm waiting on the gigabyte version of this monitor for the newer display port
what monitor arm is that?
What kind of monitor arm was that, i need something like that for a dual monitor setup… any recommendations?
The annual video
Looks like a good mid-size monitor! However the ASUS ROG Swift PG42UQ 41.5" has been on my wishlist for a while yet I'm waiting for the OLED monitors to come down more in price, I do like on the Asus how you can toggle aspect ratios from 24, 27 and 34" if at any point you find the monitor "too big" to avoid selling & buying another monitor
I'm still rocking my 43" LG 4K IPS monitor from 2017, the black levels aren't great & there's no HDR but there's really not much to complain about
Nice to see you back, you should do more impulse purchase videos!
My wallet can't handle these impulse purchases. haha. Thank!
Can you use the 43" inch on 100% windows scaling? Or text and icons will be too small
that comparison next to C2 is insane, horrible coating on Alienware.
Curious: you seem like the type that would love stuff that you can 3d-print for custom solutions and that would appreciate a low-profile mechanical keyboard. Have you every thought of doing this or using these?
32" curved 🤮
Hi, what monitor arm are you using?
I think the MSI 321URX would fix a lot of your complaints. It has headphone out, no fan, usb-c with 90W of power delivery and a built-in KVM. Really hoping that it is going to be as good as it sounds.
It's trash tbh ... it has a problem with the red color, probably due the stupid coating. Those youtubers talks a bit about that into the reviews but it's way worse than they say, trust me. It may work ok for gaming but for desktop the only usable profile is sRGB. Also their OSD (profile, settings and stuffs) is closed beta stage...
Wait for different models, aim for a glossy coating not that semi-matte ...
Design work on a curved monitor? I don't know man.
I think LG C3 42 is far superior ... I tried the 27inch and the msi321urx and the only department they win is on the refresh rate and absolutely nothing else !
Why?
I sent mine back, too many downsides vs C2. The scratches alone are insane, the coating they use is absolutely horrid, literally cannot clean the display without damaging the coating. The only real upgrade was 240hz vs 120hz and the pixel density, but i hate the curve, no audio out. I actually really like the 42" size at 4 feet viewing distance, I may just wait all the way until 2025 when LG is set to release RGB OLEDs and get a DP 2.1 monitor with an rtx 5090 all in one go.
I have a 4090, £1499 77’ 4k 144, and 16 pro max. I’m richer than you buddy :)
Also the scratches on the Dell Alienware are there because it's not a Glass Panel it's plastic. Dell probably put a plastic layer film to make it look glossy and skipping the process of putting glass on it. I suggest to other companies to use Corning Gorilla Glass on their future OLED monitors to help protect the film and therefore creating scratches.
What monitor arm is that? Anyone has any clue?
One thing LG does that many others don’t that is 3D dimensionality, thanks to their contrast ratios and their pixel set up things look 3D, on my moms S90C things look flat and 2d
I think I will stay with 42 Oled LG -- because the size 32 feels small for gaming, but better for work.. But I game on PC so 42 is win
I'm watching on my LG C2 and the shot at 4:38 had me reaching for my microfiber clothe! I thought my screen was dirty lol. The blacks are so dark it's like I'm working on a black mirror and my tabs are simply floating in the air a mere millimeter in front of that mirror.
What interesting is your video you made years ago put me into the mindset that smaller OLED high end TV's can also double as good monitors/gaming set ups.
Alienware is so overrated, the C3 still looks to be king. I was so onboard to get the AW3225QF, when I heard eArc is the only way to get sound, that turned me away big time.
I can't make the jump down to 32" from 42", the sheer physicality from covering my field of view is too much to do for me. That being said, we need resolution bumps on the 42" to keep it compelling for new buyers
Yeah. It's a drop down in size for sure. I'm just waiting for someone to come out with a 40" 5K Ultrawide.
@@HelloDavid that would be the sweet spot for sure, I think I saw something announced at CES that was a 39” ultrawide but sadly still 3440x1440
I only game, and after having the 34” Alienware QD-OLED (Ultrawide 2K) for 1.5 years (wasn’t super impressed with that one), I bought both the LG 42 C3 and the Alienware 32 QD OLED to compare.
I liked the LG C3 much better. I didn’t like the curve and washed out blacks of the QD OLED, and the 42” size was just more immersive. The Alienware stand is just awful. Also, the LG C3 42 was cheaper because it’s a TV. I sent the Alienware back and kept the LG.
Why? In a dark room (where you should be using oleds to begin with) the alienware is better
@@Superdazzu2 first of all , Who said you ‘should’ be using OLED in dark rooms? I’ve had OLED TVs for years prior to buying OLED monitors and used them normally in a standard lit room without issues.
secondly, like I said, the LG C3 42 is better in every way than the AW3423DW while costing about the same where I live.
For me, the biggest advantages are: 1) 4K resolution, 2) 16:9 aspect ratio, and 3) deep inky blacks in all room light situations, not just in dark rooms with lights off.
It’s just a better panel and much more immersive and more enjoyable display.
Using a tv as monitor will be somethig we look back in disbelief, such a retarded thing we got pushed towards by "influencers" who got theirs for free.
omg finally an upload by you again
How is it coming? 6 months have passed, any advance on your opinion? 32 better than 42?
Waiting on my 42" C4 to ship - but i'm thinking maybe I should have gone with this one.
To fix the 125% scaling / loss of desktop real estate vs the C2 42" issue - put the AW3225QF on a monitor arm and just bring it a few inches closer. You can always just move a smaller monitor a few inches closer to your eyes to adjust until you get that sweet spot field of view you like. The curve on the AW3225QF actually makes this an ideal monitor for using at a somewhat shorter viewing distance - whether that's using a monitor arm to bring it a few inches closer or just using it on a shallower desk.
For audio it might be worth getting something like a DX3 Pro+ and running USB audio from the console into that. Then you can connect your PC to the optical or bluetooth inputs for easy input switching for your speaker setup and / or wired headphones (if you have them).
The closer your eyes have to focus the more strain your eyes will get and the less time they'll work optimally for.
My guy made his own custom rgb on the back end of the monitor arm. Nice!
wow this was not even covered in the linus tech tips videos about this tech. thanks to make me aware of the black issue.
MicroCenter leaked the Price of the Asus QD OLED, its only 100 bucks more than than the Alienware soo hold your horses
I'd rather have the tv tbh. The curve at that size is unnecessary but i get it. They're trying to differentiate themselves from the competition but i still hate it 😂
Im looking on gen3 OLED and think than miniLED technology is better and they should development in this direction :)
Very interesting. I’m looking into replacing my venerable PG279Q with an OLED this year and have been most concerned about color fringing on text & burnin. Good to hear you like the text quality on this monitor! Makes sense though because I feel like the pixel density is pretty high on the 32” 4K (IPS) monitor I also have.
As usual, Thanks your videos are so helpful and pleasant
Was gunna get a 42 inch monitor but the ppi is really wat kills it, just so harsh on the eyes imo
do you notice that fancy zone have one limitation , we can not set the resolution. I mean i have split the 4x4 then font are big like 720 on each area. every time i need to zoom out documents. its not easy
Another long awaited video!
Buying a 42” C3 OLED TV and trying to use it as a monitor was probably my worst tech purchase ever. It just feels unnatural and overwhelming. A 32” 16:9 4K flat OLED is definitely the way to go.
hmm ALL of these new 32" OLEDs all have enough "downsides" to keep me using my LG32GQ950-B HDR 1000 monitor. I may not have inky blacks, but neither do you ....
Bingo! You noticed something I had already noticed since CES 2024 began. The Dell Alienware OLED Monitor has a purple haze when turned off. You call it grey, but it looks purple as compared to Traditional OLED inky blacks. That's because it's not an OLED it's a Quantom Dot OLED monitor. When you combine Quantom Dot with OLED it clearly degrades the monitor making it look cheap. I can already see that Blacks on the QD-OLED Dell monitor will not be True Blacks and only a Traditional OLED will give you True Blacks.
I'm waiting for 39'' and 45'' ultrawide 5k2k OLEDs, those should be productivity and entertainment monsters
David, for your 48" or 42" OLED, after 4 yr., do you have any burn in?
It was a hard choice but i finally chose LG C3 42" over the Alienware.. the complete package for me will be 42" with blacks of an Oled & 240hz 4K + top notch HDR quality.. and yes perfect text clarity.. curved or not i dk lol
hi David, at 2:22. It looks like you have 2 setup zones pre-set, and depend if you drag window on overlap area between 2 zones or you drag on area belong to a separate zones, the respective layout will be callout, am I understanding correctly?
P/s: spend time digging into user guidance of Fancyzones, probably you hold Ctrl alongside with Shift to allow window snap into more than 1 zones. Then it's not meet my needs. Thanks btw
lets hope there will be glossy WOLED monitors soon.
$1200 brand new oled with scratches and you didn’t return it?
I like the 42 inches, so I think I'll just stick with my C2 - probably for a long while. I wish Samsung made the 42 or 43 version of their S90C though
I cant buy any 42c2 on market, always out of stock, so sad
Any burn in yet since your using for productivity?
Wait for next version of this monitor next year 2025, if black actually is gray this is bad, and dont have DP 2.1, What monitor arm do u have this white...
DAVID! I MISSED YOU MY GUY 😊
crazy how the raised blacks and magenta tint doesn't bother you too much. honestly it looks just awful in your bright envrionment. I have a QD-OLED monitor and would never buy it for a bright setup. I have it far from the windows and changed my lightning at night to accommodate it. if i couldn't do that, i would have returned it.
what hub/docker do you use please?
What do you think of the Philips 42M2N8900 ? I think it would be perfect for you
Wanted to buy this monitor...but don't love the curve, the chin, and the obnoxious branding. I'd love to buy one that's glossy, flat, and has a little cleaner / symmetrical front aesthetic.
i'm thinking about the same upgrade.. currently using an LG C2 42". My main reason to upgrade is SDR brightness, the LG C2 can be a little bit dim during daytime. The QD-OLED is supposed to be brighter on SDR.. ~250-300 nits (i guess depending on the manufacturer and if they use a heatsink or not) which is a little better than the ~150-190 nits of the LG C2.
I love the colors in QD-OLED but i'm wondering if the LG 32" OLED monitor coming with MLA panel will be even better brighter in SDR content.. I'm used to 500/600 nits of full screen brightness like the apple studio display.
If the LG reaches 500 nits full screen brightness i think i would prefer it over a QD-OLED that only gets to 250-300 nits.