I first saw this game some 50 years ago. One thing I just noticed here: Black's queen does not participate in the final position at all. All the zugzwang captures are by the other pieces and 4 of the 7 pawns. Black is essentially playing with a full queen advantage.
I don't normally comment, but I'd definitely like to see more historical chess games. It's always nice to learn about chess history, especially with your analysis!
For anyone interested, the German "z" is prounced "ts." Think of the final consonant sound in the word "rats." While the German short "a" is not exactly a short English "u," Zugzwang (capitalized in German because it is an ordinary noun) is pronounced "tsoogtsvung." (The German "w" actually has a "v" sound; German "f" and "v" are pronounce as English "f." )
@@Ptaku93 True. In German, the "j" sound is approximated by "dsch" and is never exactly the same. OTOH, how many French words and phrases in English would sound ridiculous if we didn't keep the French pronunciation? Hmmm. Need to get a tool at Home DePOT.
I've been playing for a long time and have never seen this game-- what a treat! fantastic job. I also really liked the coverage of nimzowitsch's plans in the opening/middlegame, it was very instructive.
Another vote for a series on “Chess Games to Know,” having a repertoire of iconic games to study and refer to and eventually memorize is a huge benefit to amateur players of all strengths
I would like to see more content like this, yes please. Thanks for going through all of the moves, a lot of people would’ve called it trivial and moved. You have a knack for teaching!
What a game! Have seen so many "immortal" games but never came accross this. A brilliancy without any flashy tactics. A series on "games every chess player should know" would be terrific coming from Eric.
Yes Eric. This is one of my favourite types of chess content. The analysis of historical classic games with detailed explanations such as you did here going through every single possible move to show why it was an absolute Zugzwang! What a positional masterpiece! 👍🙂👏
Omg YES please definitely talk through more games! I'm pretty sure this is my very favorite type of content from chess creators. It's great to see people sharing their unique perspectives on historical games they're passionate about, and it really helps for memorizing the games too! Thanks for all your awesome content dude
Great choice of game to analyse Eric. The idea for a series is a good one. Nigel short's "king walk" might be a suggestion, or perhaps Fischer-Petrosian 4 queens?
Eric, please make a series on famous chess games and positions! *_Légal Trap, Saavedra Position_* are good examples - I am sure you can think of many more.
Morgan Freeman is the narrator you want if you want to see a good movie. Eric Rosen is the narrator you want if you want to watch a good chess game. I enjoyed the coverage of a classic game, thanks for the content sir!
The classics are classics for a reason: they contain beautiful thinking, and I would really appreciate it if you were to cover more of them, especially ones that maybe not everyone knows. The main ones are great too - would be curious to see modern engine analysis on them, especially Karpov and Korchnoi games.
Great, I enjoyed the video! Would defo like to see more content like this. (Btw, thanks for covering why exactly this is zugzwang. Couldn't figure out why king move doesn't work.)
More important games like this would be awesome! I love seeing iconic games of the past and you explain them in such a concise and fun manner to watch :)
Love watching you play, Eric. But when you break down other people’s games it’s so enjoyable and digestible (e.g. your How to Crush the London vid). Would love to see more like this!
I believe there could also be a way to capture/trade the queen for rook or bishop, whichever White decides to sac it for by: Qa7 and then pawn pushing to e5 on black’s next move.
Great idea for a series, Eric. As far as ideas - Capablanca/Lasker WC when JRC won an endgame with black while EL was forced to shuffle his rook back and forth. JRC notes "all these (rook) moves have a meaning and should be studied".
@Eric Rosen the "Z"s in Zugzwang are pronounced like the english "ts", like in "pets". so it would be pronounced "tsoog tsvung", or "tsvang" link the "a" in "bar".
I just want to say thanks for all the chess content, I’ve learned so much and many times watch your videos with some tea to relax after the day. I’m pushing to get to 2000 elo which is my life goal and currently around 1800!
Paused at 3:32 just to guess... Nxb5, threatening to win either the bishop or knight after pawn and queen recaptures. If knight takes on e5, the bishop recaptures and prevents the rook from defending the b7 bishop from the queen (which also guards Qd7. If knight moves to a5 to defend the bishop, it can be kicked by pawn to b4. I think... Maybe? 😂 Edit: Damn! I was close!
Wow. Really cool game. As an intermediate player, Zugzwang was the last chess term that I learned, but never really. appreciated until I started watching your videos and slow, manuvering playstyle.
I will speak for the community... we would love to get your perspective/analysis on the classis/modern masterpieces. Always enjoy your videos and this series would be awesome addition as well. Cheers!
Excellent video. I do remember reading an article about this game as a youngster....on its 50th anniversary! I set the final position up on the board and spent some time working out why white had to resign.....no stockfish back then. Hopefully some of your followers will be around on the 150th anniversary of the game. What will stockfish be like by then! Yes, a few of the classic games would I'm sure be of interest to your followers. They weren't perfect and it would be fun to see what the chess engines make of them......
I'd love to see more content like this, i love seeing these types of games
but theres the agadmator channel
There are some lessons online from Eric in the Saint Louis Chess Club if you haven't seen those
+1
@@jonathanblack7597 yes, agadmator does a great job as well.
+1
Thanks for explaining the individual pieces and how they're all trapped. And yes, I'd love to see more content like this. 🍕
I first saw this game some 50 years ago. One thing I just noticed here: Black's queen does not participate in the final position at all. All the zugzwang captures are by the other pieces and 4 of the 7 pawns. Black is essentially playing with a full queen advantage.
I don't normally comment, but I'd definitely like to see more historical chess games. It's always nice to learn about chess history, especially with your analysis!
Would be amazing if you covered some historical games Eric
Thanks Eric! I spent 449 days in hospital recently and your videos and streams helped me keep calm and sane.
defiantly more videos like this, love hearing you commentate and analyze historical games so
Yes! By all means! Defiantly so!
Very defiant.
Definitely defiant.
For anyone interested, the German "z" is prounced "ts." Think of the final consonant sound in the word "rats." While the German short "a" is not exactly a short English "u," Zugzwang (capitalized in German because it is an ordinary noun) is pronounced "tsoogtsvung." (The German "w" actually has a "v" sound; German "f" and "v" are pronounce as English "f." )
Yes, but due to phonetic assimilation, it's normal to pronounce borrowed words as English words (or vice versa with English borrowings into German)
@@Ptaku93 sentences, starting with "yes, but..." are rarely good
@@Ptaku93 Examples?
@@Ptaku93 True. In German, the "j" sound is approximated by "dsch" and is never exactly the same. OTOH, how many French words and phrases in English would sound ridiculous if we didn't keep the French pronunciation? Hmmm. Need to get a tool at Home DePOT.
German short /a/ is just like RP English short /a/ in "sang" for instance. Even much closer to American English "sang" than to "sung".
I've been playing for a long time and have never seen this game-- what a treat! fantastic job. I also really liked the coverage of nimzowitsch's plans in the opening/middlegame, it was very instructive.
Hopefully speaking for other RUclips viewers, would absolutely love if you made a “games you must know” series!!!
My own stupidity puts me in a permanent state of zugzwang. Every move loses.
More of this Eric!!
One more move for white that wasn't explained is Bh3 (after moving the h pawn), which runs into Rf3 losing the queen.
Another vote for a series on “Chess Games to Know,” having a repertoire of iconic games to study and refer to and eventually memorize is a huge benefit to amateur players of all strengths
I would like to see more content like this, yes please. Thanks for going through all of the moves, a lot of people would’ve called it trivial and moved. You have a knack for teaching!
The golden coins game and evergreen game where the games that made me fall in love with chess!!
What a game! Have seen so many "immortal" games but never came accross this. A brilliancy without any flashy tactics.
A series on "games every chess player should know" would be terrific coming from Eric.
You're an excellent teacher Eric, really appreciate this kind of content!
Yes Eric. This is one of my favourite types of chess content. The analysis of historical classic games with detailed explanations such as you did here going through every single possible move to show why it was an absolute Zugzwang! What a positional masterpiece! 👍🙂👏
Omg YES please definitely talk through more games! I'm pretty sure this is my very favorite type of content from chess creators. It's great to see people sharing their unique perspectives on historical games they're passionate about, and it really helps for memorizing the games too! Thanks for all your awesome content dude
Great choice of game to analyse Eric. The idea for a series is a good one. Nigel short's "king walk" might be a suggestion, or perhaps Fischer-Petrosian 4 queens?
I like how you explained it, very great game!
It's crazy how games played years ago are still talked about
That moment when the name of the player then, is the name of opening line now. NIMZO
That series sounds like such a cool idea, the way you walk through moves is so understandable would be super interesting to see!
Yes. Want more. I really enjoy your style of analysis. And it's fun to see historically significant games like the.
Eric, please make a series on famous chess games and positions!
*_Légal Trap, Saavedra Position_* are good examples - I am sure you can think of many more.
Yep, start with a history of Scholar's mate and finish with some brilliant modern game (possibly not yet played ;)
@@steve_1005 maybe AlphaZero vs Stockfish?
Morgan Freeman is the narrator you want if you want to see a good movie. Eric Rosen is the narrator you want if you want to watch a good chess game. I enjoyed the coverage of a classic game, thanks for the content sir!
Yes, please show us more of these legendary games, I would really appreciate it! :) thank you
Very cool game Eric! Please show more of those :D
I also would love to see more of this type of content! Thanks, Eric!
I would absolutly love to see more content like this. Please keep it up
The classics are classics for a reason: they contain beautiful thinking, and I would really appreciate it if you were to cover more of them, especially ones that maybe not everyone knows. The main ones are great too - would be curious to see modern engine analysis on them, especially Karpov and Korchnoi games.
Short and sweet. This is the way, and I dig seeing how you explore and explain games. Peace.
Thank you. I really enjoy videos about instructive famous games.
Eric giving us a tutorial on how chess pieces DON'T move.
yes to series of videos you mentioned about games people should know. I would be interested in that. As always, love your stuff, thanks Eric
this video was the best chess video I've seen in a while, would love to see more of your top level analysis!:)
Would love more content like this!!!
A really good explanation; yes 'games we should know'. I look forward to that.
Yess, please more of this kind of content. Very informative and educational :)!
Great, I enjoyed the video! Would defo like to see more content like this. (Btw, thanks for covering why exactly this is zugzwang. Couldn't figure out why king move doesn't work.)
Please post more content like this! I loved this analysis!
That's nice! I've looked at this game two weeks ago and didn't understand all the tactics behind the zugzwang, thank you for explaining.
content like this from you sounds absolutely perfect :)
More important games like this would be awesome! I love seeing iconic games of the past and you explain them in such a concise and fun manner to watch :)
Great game... Hadn't seen this one before. Also great explanation and would love to see more games like this
That position was mind boggling. Truly great content!
great as always , of course more of this !!
thanks for this very clear and concise analysis.. more of this please👍
Thank you very much.I'd love to see more content like this🙂
Really enjoyed this video! Would watch more videos covering games like this, yes! :)
Love watching you play, Eric.
But when you break down other people’s games it’s so enjoyable and digestible (e.g. your How to Crush the London vid). Would love to see more like this!
In Zugzwang the best move to make would be skipping the move.
Top level analysis with a nice and soothing voice? I subscribed for this.
I believe there could also be a way to capture/trade the queen for rook or bishop, whichever White decides to sac it for by: Qa7 and then pawn pushing to e5 on black’s next move.
Really enjoy these. Keep experimenting with content, you have a good feel for shat your viewers want.
I would love more content like this! Thanks for this game review.
Yes, big thumbs up for more coverage of “games I should know by now”!
Love this video and look forward to seeing more game analysis like this. You do a great job at it!
More of what you consider important games would be great. Wonderful explanation also!!
Loved this. Thank you.
Great video Eric, keep em coming!
1:02 If it was played March 10th, 2023, you should probably remember because it's the same day this video was posted. Unless of course you meant 1923
Thank you for covering the game's final position in such detail.
Great content. For sure, it would be really informative and useful to watch these kinds of games under your commentary. Keep it going please
Great idea for a series, Eric. As far as ideas - Capablanca/Lasker WC when JRC won an endgame with black while EL was forced to shuffle his rook back and forth. JRC notes "all these (rook) moves have a meaning and should be studied".
@Eric Rosen the "Z"s in Zugzwang are pronounced like the english "ts", like in "pets". so it would be pronounced "tsoog tsvung", or "tsvang" link the "a" in "bar".
Yes please, your analysis is great. Keep up the good work 👍👍
I'd love that series!
Definitely need more of these!
7:42 brutal zugzwang move
Not only a waiting move, but if white plays Kh2 then R5f3 truly traps the queen because h6 is covering the one potential escape square of g5
I just want to say thanks for all the chess content, I’ve learned so much and many times watch your videos with some tea to relax after the day. I’m pushing to get to 2000 elo which is my life goal and currently around 1800!
Definitely would enjoy you annotating more games!
Yes more content like this would be awesome.
I loved andras’ know your classics series, so I approve. Would love to have your channel transition to more educational content
"it was played march 9th 2023"
Ummmm
definitely an oopsie there
Nice! Carry on with this series! 👌
Absolutely, I would love to see more games like this. Also quack!
Paused at 3:32 just to guess...
Nxb5, threatening to win either the bishop or knight after pawn and queen recaptures. If knight takes on e5, the bishop recaptures and prevents the rook from defending the b7 bishop from the queen (which also guards Qd7. If knight moves to a5 to defend the bishop, it can be kicked by pawn to b4.
I think... Maybe? 😂
Edit: Damn! I was close!
The problem would be that you have nowhere to go after Na5! attacks the queen, whereas after Nd5: you can bail out with check.
Yes please, more game analizies
Wow. Really cool game. As an intermediate player, Zugzwang was the last chess term that I learned, but never really. appreciated until I started watching your videos and slow, manuvering playstyle.
thanks for the video, great game
Eric you asked - I’d love more content like this! Thanks for all you do!
I will watch ANY vid of you analyzing old classics my guy. Thanks
You missed a2-a4 as a possible move, and we all know when passant is forced which would have solved Saemisch's problems 😂
that was awesome. saw this game a couple years ago, but its way cooler after ive improved a few hundred elo haha. your explanation was insightful
I will speak for the community... we would love to get your perspective/analysis on the classis/modern masterpieces. Always enjoy your videos and this series would be awesome addition as well. Cheers!
yes! please, more like this!
so this was the video you were talking about posting during the stream today
I would love to see more of this type of vídeo! it was so much fun watching this! maybe go through more immortal games?
Please share more games like this, its very helpful to see you go through moves and explain why they work or dont
I'd love to see these kind of videos more often, especially now that I want to focus more on my chess
Eric posts, I watch.
10:48 would love to see that, that was a great one to start with
I'd love analyses like these as a series
Excellent video. I do remember reading an article about this game as a youngster....on its 50th anniversary! I set the final position up on the board and spent some time working out why white had to resign.....no stockfish back then. Hopefully some of your followers will be around on the 150th anniversary of the game. What will stockfish be like by then!
Yes, a few of the classic games would I'm sure be of interest to your followers. They weren't perfect and it would be fun to see what the chess engines make of them......
nice video, you always were/are good at teaching
This was very cool, yes please make more videos like this
Amazing video and game!