I agree with the guy who said you run one of the best sports podcasts on RUclips and I think your military discipline goes a long ways toward the consistency of the show... Whenever I'm searching for content I always think about law & crime Network and man down podcast so you're doing a great job and keep up the good work...
I agree. I particularly appreciate the way you all refrain from cussing because it proves you don’t have to cuss to have exciting conversations on sports. I’ve been trying to convince others of this.
1. Move 3️⃣line back 2. Fine load maneging 75.000 💰 per game 3. Allow ✋🏻 checking 4. Techs for flopping 5. No 3 sec rule in the paint 6. 50% off 🎟 if max player load manages 7. Back to traditional jersey colors 8. Call traveling strictly 9. Allow only talented players in the nba 10. Allow tougher defense
I agree with 8. How about intoducing negative points for each missed 3 after a certain number of misses? I'm no fan of any contact that's not marginal. Let not BB revert to poor-man's rugby.
Simple. LBJ is not a grown man as a human being, he acts like a high schooler. And players treat the league like AAU. Grown men were playing in the early 2000s and before.
I don't understand the logic of "let's appeal to the International market by enforcing rules different from FIBA rules." On this side of the Atlantic, it seems that high scoring has always been culturally American, which is why "Soccer" has a hard time thriving there.
Analytics has ruined the game of the NBA. All because some nerds who never played the game and numbers dictated that defense doesn’t matter and rebounding means you’re a good defender even when a player can’t stop a runny nose and high usage and triple doubles means you’re the best player in the league smh. Horrible premise
THANK YOU Man Down. I am SICK of these race batters constantly saying politics. . When I see people say politics I know AUTOMATICALLY that they are NOT basketball fans The same people who say politics are ALSO the same people who say that the last time they watched the NBA was when Larry Bird played (or even Jordan). .NFL is much more political and yet they are glued to their TV every Sunday. They don't love the game of basketball.
Melo never made a team better as the #1 option. His style wasn't conducive to sustained team success. In Houston, he was a non-factor, and in OKC, he was a liability-so much so that they benched him. Melo never evolved.
Melo joined a non-playoff Nuggets team as a rookie and immediately improved the record and made them a playoff team. Your statement was debunked by just looking at his 1st nba season
Bruh stop the lies. In OKC the organization was so focused on Westbrook getting triple doubles it suffocated the team. Same thing with Houston and James Harden.
@@edgarmuniz8331 I addressed your original statement that Melo never made a team better and I informed you his rookie season alone debunks that statement. You can't comeback with a new totally different statement to revive the 1st one that's dead. Conversation over
@@MandownsportsYou talked about Melo's rookie season. I expand on that by saying he never made his teams better in his career. I should have said he rarely made his team better on a championship level. I was being hyperbolic but the fact remains, I stand by my statement. I wanted to clarify it.
Shortening the season and removing the play -in games would bring back competition in the regular season. Kick the analytics guys out the league and bring in real basketball guys to run these teams and draft and develop players.
They're not gonna shorten the season because the players don't want to give up the money. They would be foolish to pay them the same amount to play about 20 games less than they already play. They say this is the best era but everybody's hurt or load managing. Embiid and Kawhi should be forced into retirement without pay since they're almost never healthy.
On the analytics subject, blame it on THEO EPSTEIN. The Boston Red Sox hired him even though he never played baseball. And because he had success in winning a title in 2004, NBA execs wanted their own version of a Theo Epstein and it is ruining basketball. Even the MLB changed rules to diminish the influence of analytics and ratings increased
How are you revising history on what Steph did in college and say Kansas ran him off the court. Steph faced double teams the whole night and Kansas had 4 five stars on their team. Why didn’t you use Kyrie as an example. Kyrie wouldn’t be Kyrie would’ve been better
PROBLEMS ARE BIGGER THAN DEFENCE!!!! (1) Why isn't the Draft working??? Look at Detroit. Look at 76ers!!! (2) One and Done!!! Your draftees are way short of refinement!!! (3) Coaching. Given the Number of missed Threes, why iosn't a Coach emphasizing Rebounding and mandatorily converting to twos!!! (4)Bring the Park, Schoolyard, StreetLamp and side of the Barn back to the Culture!!!
Even though I am a vegetarian, I LOVE your McRib example. Thst is EXACTLY what they are doing - selling a vegetarian version of basketball to grab a market who doesn't like basketball at all and never will.
So basically Bron trying to be the only one in his category... which it doesn't work like that Bron your not that great.... You're not like the other greats you just not
Fuck no to Hero Ball! I don't even watch Basketball anymore. I just have to take your word for it. I collect Basketball cards and i can't understand for the life of me that Luka Doncic Panini Silver Rc PSA 10 is worth more than Jayson Tatum Panini Silver Rc PSA 10! Its like WTF? How in the hell could that be??? SMH...
If the Cleveland organization was like the lakers, bulls, or celtics he would’ve have to make a decision, as soon as they got some players he came back and won to be fair
I don't fancy the hand check or so-called "physical" (rugbycal) defense. Jus try and run faster than your opponent and knock the ball, not the player. With the mindset of today's players, even if they were allowed to punch their opponents for defense, they still wouldn't defend. Just look at Bron in the Olympics: When he decided to defend (because otherwise he would have lost), he did.
In 2016, Steph couldn’t handle the physicality of the Cavs. He came back stronger every year and when they faced the Celtics in 2022 Steph proved he could handle physicality. He carried and if you don’t believe it I. Challenge you to watch the games live and in stand on business for this 30 slander
Yes, a lot of content creators are still watching. They should be watching so that their analysis has credibility. Overall viewership is down though and that is the result of how terrible the product has become. I have not watched a single Lakers game this season and will not watch another one until Lebron, JJ and Lebron Jr are gone.
Great show! Mark Price was not feared but he was highly respected as a shooter and he did not lead the Cavs to a title through his shooting prowess… like Jordan, Steph is universally recognized as the greatest shooter of all time… he is the first player in history to lead a jump shooting team to an NBA finals championship…. One ring Superstar Steph is NOT… Steph has been to (6) finals 3 with KD and 3 without KD… Steph won 2 with KD and won 2 without KD… Jerry West on Steph people doesn’t like rare and Steph is rare, he’s greatest shooter this league has ever seen by far… Mark Jackson best shooter the game has ever seen period Mark Jackson played with Mark Price l believe… Curry is the holder of numerous other records, notably for his efficiency and three-point shooting. He has the highest career free-throw percentage in NBA history (91.0%) and has led the league in three-pointers made a record eight times. Stephen Jackson on why Stephen Curry is Top 5 player ever: "Steph has won the most in this era with 'Bron in it" Penny just said Bron was 1A… Kobe Bryant once perfectly described what makes Stephen Curry so tough to guard: "He can always change the cadence of his game"…. Great content as usual l just had to rebuttal be you are being dismissive and minimizing the greatness of the winningest player of the past decade … til the next episode
Bring back the defense, and also take away the insane “ball handling “ rules. Zero/Gather Step And enforce the carry / travel rules. I think those things immediately bring back fundamentals, and guys would, by default have to make better basketball plays.
I like how consistent you are you always say LeBron doesn’t run the league. He’s not good at this. Season is terrible at that. This person is better at this. He he’s the best. He’s not the best in the league. This certain person is the best in the league this and that, but when there’s bad things going on like the ratings are going bad then LeBron is sitting on the throne.🤦🏾♂️
Stop saying steph messed up the NBA he is a shooter that's what he does it's Adam Silver and Brons fault why the league is what it is today cause Bron never evolved his game and now that he's to 9ld to start his bag he started throwing up 3's and he still doesn't play defense cause he cannot run around with these young player's on both side of the floor so he's just Stat padding his points even when it doesn't matter in the game it's a joke I think people are just tired of seeing this guy do the same thing all these year's and and have nothing in his weaponry but steam roll into a player that's most times is smaller than him ... but you put a big player on an that player play defense and he can't bully that player the refs calls a foul knowing Bron doesn't really want to go to the free-throw line just pitiful pitiful
@Mandownsports I don’t think the physicality would take away from how well he shoots the ball. We have a number of players in the 90’s era that were slight of frame that still shot the lights out. I’d like to highlight Mahmoud Abdul Rauf. He was quick with the handle, decisive with the shots he took in spite of hand checks, etc. they made no difference. Had he not been blackballed who knows his potential. Reggie Miller, much taller though he did not play point, but he ran through a number of screens in order to exploit his shooting prowess as does Steph minus the ball handling from the point position…now as far as the point guard, you and I are aligned but there’s an argument if we relegate the “best PG” to eras
@@Mandownsports I don’t think that is of any relevance. Teams were physical in series’ prior to the finals. Cleveland matched up well enough for that brand of play to be the most effective . No excuse for him losing but, he wasn’t as healthy as we would have liked as were a couple others, coupled with key players missing games that series. I could say the shooters who many claim to be comparable, outside of Bird, didn’t shoot their way well enough to be in that position for a system/offense to be built around them let alone lead the team to 6 finals appearances winning 4.
@Dono22546 it's relevant. The cavs physical play slowed down much of what Steph wanted to do as far as movement off the ball. The type of shots Steph get in this era won't come easy in the 90s plus no coach would allow him to get those shots. He'd more than likely look exactly like Mark Price
Great comparison to the pork shack! Where do you come up with this ish?! I see you getting more paid subscribers. I told you, you're gonna be a big fish in a big pond.... it's happening!
@Mandownsports i know you do, but your hard work and dedication to the game show through. That's why we gonna get you off that 9 to 5. I'm a Pipefitter brother and I ain't getting any younger. Just turned 46 3 days ago and I still work out in the field, so if I can help someone doing what they love and make a living doing it, I'm bout that! You bout it? I'm bout it... Uuuu
@@Mandownsports alright. say it with 3 syllables then. I'm dead. i looked it up "simply" is 2. haha oh well. say it with 3 sylls. learned something everyday.
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It’s crazy Gil’s Arena will talk about Jokic’s triple double “stat paddin” but praise LeBron for the same bs
And give Lebron a pass for not playing defense and doubling the turnovers that Westbrook had while on the lakers smh more than 5 a game
Yeah.
Because Gil is jealous and xenophobic.
@@edgarmuniz8331 xenophobia??? Ain’t the the thing from the Alien movies??? 🤣 (I’m jp bro)
Larry O' Brien was the commissioner before David Stern Mel. The NBA Finals trophy was named after him.
Thank you. I was just about to comment the same thing.
He helped negotiate the merger.
I agree with the guy who said you run one of the best sports podcasts on RUclips and I think your military discipline goes a long ways toward the consistency of the show... Whenever I'm searching for content I always think about law & crime Network and man down podcast so you're doing a great job and keep up the good work...
Bro I definitely appreciate that comment 🙏
I agree. I particularly appreciate the way you all refrain from cussing because it proves you don’t have to cuss to have exciting conversations on sports. I’ve been trying to convince others of this.
@thechocolatewriter8680 thanks for noticing
@@thechocolatewriter8680 oh, Mel will cuss when he's had enough! But it's reasonable!
1. Move 3️⃣line back
2. Fine load maneging 75.000 💰 per game
3. Allow ✋🏻 checking
4. Techs for flopping
5. No 3 sec rule in the paint
6. 50% off 🎟 if max player load manages
7. Back to traditional jersey colors
8. Call traveling strictly
9. Allow only talented players in the nba
10. Allow tougher defense
I agree with 8.
How about intoducing negative points for each missed 3 after a certain number of misses?
I'm no fan of any contact that's not marginal. Let not BB revert to poor-man's rugby.
IF YOU CANT HIT A FREE THROW...
YOU SHOULDN'T BE SHOOTING 3s
Preach
Simple. LBJ is not a grown man as a human being, he acts like a high schooler. And players treat the league like AAU.
Grown men were playing in the early 2000s and before.
If only the league did not artificially inflate assists to fabricate triple-doubles...
Fire Adam Silver and Lebron James and Make Basketball Great Again
I don't understand the logic of "let's appeal to the International market by enforcing rules different from FIBA rules."
On this side of the Atlantic, it seems that high scoring has always been culturally American, which is why "Soccer" has a hard time thriving there.
They appeal to the international market by creating superstar players from those countries and a less physical helped create those superstars
Analytics has ruined the game of the NBA. All because some nerds who never played the game and numbers dictated that defense doesn’t matter and rebounding means you’re a good defender even when a player can’t stop a runny nose and high usage and triple doubles means you’re the best player in the league smh. Horrible premise
Facts
@ 🫡
LeRuined the game not to mention LeCheated the game
Politics, betting, soft player, soft rules, soft refs has ruined the NBA.
Politics has nothing to do with it.
THANK YOU Man Down. I am SICK of these race batters constantly saying politics.
.
When I see people say politics I know AUTOMATICALLY that they are NOT basketball fans
The same people who say politics are ALSO the same people who say that the last time they watched the NBA was when Larry Bird played (or even Jordan).
.NFL is much more political and yet they are glued to their TV every Sunday. They don't love the game of basketball.
Imagine Thunder Dan, Chuck Persons, Glen Rice and Mark Price playing in this league today!
Insane
Melo never made a team better as the #1 option. His style wasn't conducive to sustained team success. In Houston, he was a non-factor, and in OKC, he was a liability-so much so that they benched him. Melo never evolved.
Melo joined a non-playoff Nuggets team as a rookie and immediately improved the record and made them a playoff team. Your statement was debunked by just looking at his 1st nba season
Bruh stop the lies. In OKC the organization was so focused on Westbrook getting triple doubles it suffocated the team. Same thing with Houston and James Harden.
@Mandownsports Melo only led his team out of the first round twice. We have different measurements and standards of success.
@@edgarmuniz8331 I addressed your original statement that Melo never made a team better and I informed you his rookie season alone debunks that statement. You can't comeback with a new totally different statement to revive the 1st one that's dead. Conversation over
@@MandownsportsYou talked about Melo's rookie season. I expand on that by saying he never made his teams better in his career. I should have said he rarely made his team better on a championship level. I was being hyperbolic but the fact remains, I stand by my statement. I wanted to clarify it.
Most INFORMED show on.. period.
Appreciate that fam 💯
I agree with everything on this platform except for the curry slander 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Let’s face it this current NBA is trash full of soft players mentally and physically, led by a stat padding fake 🐐.
Shortening the season and removing the play -in games would bring back competition in the regular season.
Kick the analytics guys out the league and bring in real basketball guys to run these teams and draft and develop players.
They're not gonna shorten the season because the players don't want to give up the money. They would be foolish to pay them the same amount to play about 20 games less than they already play. They say this is the best era but everybody's hurt or load managing. Embiid and Kawhi should be forced into retirement without pay since they're almost never healthy.
NOBODY, Owners, Broadcasters, Players are going to leave money on the Table.
That’s why Jordan sold most of his shares of the Hornets. He read the tea leaves.
On the analytics subject, blame it on THEO EPSTEIN. The Boston Red Sox hired him even though he never played baseball. And because he had success in winning a title in 2004, NBA execs wanted their own version of a Theo Epstein and it is ruining basketball. Even the MLB changed rules to diminish the influence of analytics and ratings increased
Blame the "minimum defense" on coaches. If s.o. knows he's going to be benched when he does not defend, guess what?
Great content like always Mel! Salute brother! 🫡
Salute bro
How are you revising history on what Steph did in college and say Kansas ran him off the court. Steph faced double teams the whole night and Kansas had 4 five stars on their team. Why didn’t you use Kyrie as an example. Kyrie wouldn’t be Kyrie would’ve been better
And real defense was being played yall would see that Jokic and Luka wouldnt be better than Peja Stojaković and Hedo Türkoğlu
@@blackdynamite7177 I agree
PROBLEMS ARE BIGGER THAN DEFENCE!!!! (1) Why isn't the Draft working??? Look at Detroit. Look at 76ers!!! (2) One and Done!!! Your draftees are way short of refinement!!! (3) Coaching. Given the Number of missed Threes, why iosn't a Coach emphasizing Rebounding and mandatorily converting to twos!!! (4)Bring the Park, Schoolyard, StreetLamp and side of the Barn back to the Culture!!!
You’re making some good points 🫡
In deed
Even though I am a vegetarian, I LOVE your McRib example. Thst is EXACTLY what they are doing - selling a vegetarian version of basketball to grab a market who doesn't like basketball at all and never will.
Exactly! And they expect the basketball lovers to just deal with it
So basically Bron trying to be the only one in his category... which it doesn't work like that Bron your not that great.... You're not like the other greats you just not
Mel, Lakers should have hired you over Reddick 😆 you make much more basketball sense even laying out base plans...
@@V12BenzAMG lol 😆
Fuck no to Hero Ball! I don't even watch Basketball anymore. I just have to take your word for it. I collect Basketball cards and i can't understand for the life of me that Luka Doncic Panini Silver Rc PSA 10 is worth more than Jayson Tatum Panini Silver Rc PSA 10! Its like WTF? How in the hell could that be??? SMH...
Jaylen Brown gets no love in the card game either! This is a screwed up league!
@@card-pull-king interesting 🤔
If the Cleveland organization was like the lakers, bulls, or celtics he would’ve have to make a decision, as soon as they got some players he came back and won to be fair
KD not that good is insane 🤣🤣
Boston proved this a few seasons ago in the playoffs when the nba's front office allowed 90s defense to be played on KD
@mr.perfect1749 but that could be said for more than half the players in the league tho too
When you start gambling on Kevin Durant you realize how bad he really is
32:40 Major Payne reference 🫡💯
I don't fancy the hand check or so-called "physical" (rugbycal) defense.
Jus try and run faster than your opponent and knock the ball, not the player.
With the mindset of today's players, even if they were allowed to punch their opponents for defense, they still wouldn't defend. Just look at Bron in the Olympics: When he decided to defend (because otherwise he would have lost), he did.
In 2016, Steph couldn’t handle the physicality of the Cavs. He came back stronger every year and when they faced the Celtics in 2022 Steph proved he could handle physicality. He carried and if you don’t believe it I. Challenge you to watch the games live and in stand on business for this 30 slander
But yall keep watching it 😂😂
Yes, a lot of content creators are still watching. They should be watching so that their analysis has credibility. Overall viewership is down though and that is the result of how terrible the product has become. I have not watched a single Lakers game this season and will not watch another one until Lebron, JJ and Lebron Jr are gone.
@@therealheisenberg6182exactly right
Great show! Mark Price was not feared but he was highly respected as a shooter and he did not lead the Cavs to a title through his shooting prowess… like Jordan, Steph is universally recognized as the greatest shooter of all time… he is the first player in history to lead a jump shooting team to an NBA finals championship….
One ring Superstar Steph is NOT… Steph has been to (6) finals 3 with KD and 3 without KD… Steph won 2 with KD and won 2 without KD…
Jerry West on Steph people doesn’t like rare and Steph is rare, he’s greatest shooter this league has ever seen by far…
Mark Jackson best shooter the game has ever seen period Mark Jackson played with Mark Price l believe…
Curry is the holder of numerous other records, notably for his efficiency and three-point shooting. He has the highest career free-throw percentage in NBA history (91.0%) and has led the league in three-pointers made a record eight times.
Stephen Jackson on why Stephen Curry is Top 5 player ever: "Steph has won the most in this era with 'Bron in it"
Penny just said Bron was 1A…
Kobe Bryant once perfectly described what makes Stephen Curry so tough to guard: "He can always change the cadence of his game"…. Great content as usual l just had to rebuttal be you are being dismissive and minimizing the greatness of the winningest player of the past decade … til the next episode
Curry would be his coach or his dad if the league was physical basically a roll player and adam silver admitted that without saying those exact words
Timmy D was not on another level than KG
Bring back the defense, and also take away the insane “ball handling “ rules. Zero/Gather Step
And enforce the carry / travel rules.
I think those things immediately bring back fundamentals, and guys would, by default have to make better basketball plays.
Players would be out of the league. I do not believe 25% could learn proper dribbling and ball handling.
Mel blocking people who disagree with him is just pathetic. Mel you a clown huh. 😂
I can block u as well, just let me know
@Mandownsports go ahead! Case and point! 🤣
@Mandownsports Your opinion is correct on everything, right? You don't even watch the W or the Nuggets. Total 🤡 lib.
@Mandownsports Might as well take down the comment section and don't let people call in if you are always right. You ain't the only game in town. 😚
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Curry would be his coach or his dad in the 90's
Mark Price
LECHOKE should have retire after 2020 bubble gum ring. He over stayed now every year he stays going down on the list
AD would have a good team to play with if LaBum would move out of the way!
What’s good Mel
@@blubim what's popping
I like how consistent you are you always say LeBron doesn’t run the league. He’s not good at this. Season is terrible at that. This person is better at this. He he’s the best. He’s not the best in the league. This certain person is the best in the league this and that, but when there’s bad things going on like the ratings are going bad then LeBron is sitting on the throne.🤦🏾♂️
Is Lebron on the throne?
Stop saying steph messed up the NBA he is a shooter that's what he does it's Adam Silver and Brons fault why the league is what it is today cause Bron never evolved his game and now that he's to 9ld to start his bag he started throwing up 3's and he still doesn't play defense cause he cannot run around with these young player's on both side of the floor so he's just Stat padding his points even when it doesn't matter in the game it's a joke I think people are just tired of seeing this guy do the same thing all these year's and and have nothing in his weaponry but steam roll into a player that's most times is smaller than him ... but you put a big player on an that player play defense and he can't bully that player the refs calls a foul knowing Bron doesn't really want to go to the free-throw line just pitiful pitiful
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Don’t agree with the best shooter take. He most definitely is the best shooter of all time, best PG is definitely on the table for debate
I disagree
@Mandownsports I don’t think the physicality would take away from how well he shoots the ball. We have a number of players in the 90’s era that were slight of frame that still shot the lights out. I’d like to highlight Mahmoud Abdul Rauf. He was quick with the handle, decisive with the shots he took in spite of hand checks, etc. they made no difference. Had he not been blackballed who knows his potential. Reggie Miller, much taller though he did not play point, but he ran through a number of screens in order to exploit his shooting prowess as does Steph minus the ball handling from the point position…now as far as the point guard, you and I are aligned but there’s an argument if we relegate the “best PG” to eras
@Dono22546 explain blowing a 3-1 leaf in the finals when the physicality was allowed
@@Mandownsports I don’t think that is of any relevance. Teams were physical in series’ prior to the finals. Cleveland matched up well enough for that brand of play to be the most effective . No excuse for him losing but, he wasn’t as healthy as we would have liked as were a couple others, coupled with key players missing games that series. I could say the shooters who many claim to be comparable, outside of Bird, didn’t shoot their way well enough to be in that position for a system/offense to be built around them let alone lead the team to 6 finals appearances winning 4.
@Dono22546 it's relevant. The cavs physical play slowed down much of what Steph wanted to do as far as movement off the ball. The type of shots Steph get in this era won't come easy in the 90s plus no coach would allow him to get those shots. He'd more than likely look exactly like Mark Price
Great comparison to the pork shack! Where do you come up with this ish?! I see you getting more paid subscribers. I told you, you're gonna be a big fish in a big pond.... it's happening!
@mandownsports does it show my name when I comment? Or does it say card-pull-king? This is Scott Merryweather
It's doesn't show your name but now I know this is you
I'm just enjoying the ride and appreciating the support yall give me bro. I really appreciate all of yall
@Mandownsports i know you do, but your hard work and dedication to the game show through. That's why we gonna get you off that 9 to 5. I'm a Pipefitter brother and I ain't getting any younger. Just turned 46 3 days ago and I still work out in the field, so if I can help someone doing what they love and make a living doing it, I'm bout that! You bout it? I'm bout it... Uuuu
@card-pull-king my dawg 💪
@mandownsports Mel, you cannot be demolishing my name like that. haha. it's simplynewb/4 syllables, not simplynew-b with 5 sylls. 🤙👍👊
I thought I said it with 4 syllables
@@Mandownsports alright. say it with 3 syllables then. I'm dead. i looked it up "simply" is 2. haha oh well. say it with 3 sylls. learned something everyday.
@@simplynewb1144 ohhh ok so "newb" is pronounced "noob?" Not "new-bee"
@@Mandownsports yep... that was original spelling of the word noob but yes., "noob", not "newbie or new-bee".