Not including the Furious Five is a... choice. The wrong choice, if you ask me. It's a clear mistake to ignore characters that have been involved in the story and the protagonist's development from the start. It sounds like they wasted Tai Lung too, which is a real shame because they could've done something truly interesting with his character and further explored the dynamic between him and Po. If you're going to bring a dead character back, you need to make it count.
@@timmynotjerry That's definitely a possibility... and another reason why they shouldn't cast celebrities in animation over lesser-known voice actors. Half the budget in these projects probably goes to paying celebs.
@@AnimaVox_ yes, this movie had a significantly lower budget so i think that also plays into the quality of the movie, its sad to see honestly but it is what it is
@@EvelynL.1112 the Furious Five were the main motivation for Po to become a great warrior, he went throught character developpment, even battling a dangerous prisoner, an army, and a powerful warrior from the world of the dead. Removing them, remove all the developpment that happened in the three movies.. It remove the epic moments from them alltogether, how a panda without much skills could confront his fear and end a battle, in the most impressive way ever.
I liked this enough, but it’s far away from the other Kung fu pandas in terms of quality. I still love this franchise, especially the 1st one. But I was kind of disappointed with little to no Furious 5 and the lack of villain representation like the advertising promised.
*Spoilers* The only appearance they had was helping Zhen train near the end of the movie. And before you ask, no, they don't have any dialogue. They couldn't get the VAs to play their characters.
The fact that I expect more; even with a roughly 1hr and 27 minute film, was a bruh moment. I’d figured that if weren’t able to see the furious 5, then the film would be utilizing Tai Lung’s character more, because I thought that we would have a second plot based on him😅. But the movie didn’t do that unfortunately. I’d still thought it was alright, but it doesn’t have much of the emotional impact like the last movies.
2:02 I think the reason why The Chameleon didn’t have much to do with Po, is because she is supposed to be Zhen’s villain as Zhen is now taking over as the Dragon Warrior.
Good point. And to a degree, thats been exemplified in every movie. Tai Lung was Shifu’s burden and Kai was Oogway’s. Only Shen has a personal vendetta with Po specifically
@@xenomorphbiologist-xx1214 Even though Tai Lung was Shifu’s burden, there was still a strong parallel between Po and Tai Lung regarding the acceptance of yourself as you are. Even if the villain isn’t “for Po”, they should still have some sort of connection to him with their character traits.
The idea of a villain who can copy the abilities of past villains is one with a ton of potential but was severely underused. They had the opportunity here to have all the villains fight alongside Po to get their power back or something sick like that.
Yea, but animating 14 models instead of 3 would have been super expensive, and unfortunately, they didn't get a proper budged. They did fairly well for the unfair half the budged previous movies had.
SPOILERS my greatest disappointment from the film was the final fight. Something felt wrong with the chameleon shape shifting into monstrosity that combined every animal she stole the form of. That’s probably how I’d describe the movie, lackluster and “off”. Even the models look weird, not just Zhen, compare the wolves and bulls to previous movies. The bulls are more noticeable with their eyes but more details weird when you look back at the designs of the three movies. Even the soundtrack wasn’t as memorable to me. I think when they first arrived at Juniper City, that was the ost that stood out most. Needless to say I was disappointed. It doesn’t feel like a kfp movie.
I think the battle could have been better. I liked how the chameleon looked like a dragon but combining the parts of different animals, but it needed more tension and greater moments of seriousness to make the battle better.
I wish she took advantage of changing forms/fighting styles more in the final fight. It would've been a great way to give Po one last challenge by having him use all the skills he's learnt as the Dragon Warrior. (Since he's transitioning into the role of Spiritual Leader of the Valley of Peace)
I hope that DW sees the criticism and seeks to take better care of the next film and be able to do what this installment could not and better look for another director who knows how to handle it in a more serious and risky way.
I would actually say it’s a bad movie rather than okay, if you take the context for the series, it kind of destroys every single character arc every character has. Your saying shifu of all people doesn’t want to investigate the possibility the tai lung has returned? Shifu the same guy who said “double the guards, double everything” at the mere thought of him escaping. Shifu also wants the furious five to handle it? After they got bodied by tai lung in the first movie? Then they make po’s panda dad a joke and a coward.. and i think at one point they even make the joke about him “feeling like a warrior”…. But…he is a warrior…? In KF2 in po’s flashback you literally see him defending his village against shen, he is not a coward. And po? I think that’s the most obvious… po feeling insecure about “who am i if not the dragon warrior” is the most redundant plot point because the past three movies are literally about that. Even the first, “there is no secret ingredient, it’s just you”
My only defense for Po’s dad is maybe only at times when his family’s lives are in danger, he becomes brave, but every other time or when stakes aren’t as high, he shows his coward side. But I think making Po’s dad and the rest of the Pandas a joke was not a great choice either imo.
Po dad is actually really justified , he was behaving the same way he behaved in the third movie , and him being afraid it’s in character , he acts brave when the situation requieres him to do so
The furious 5 have come a long way since the first movie , so that explains why shifu is less worried about it , he doesn’t feel that tai long is as big a threat as he was in the first movie
You think shifu cares about tai lung now. First off shifu only lost to tai lung because he realized he was wrong. As you see during their fight he was on the defensive most of the time. Secondly the furious five are like 5 times stronger than they were in the first movie. They could easily take tai lung. And his dad isn’t a coward. It’s more like a fight or flight response. Of course when he’s in danger he will fight for him and his family. It’s not a bad movie by any means. Is it great no. But it’s a decent movie. I watched it twice and enjoyed it both times .
I actually told my manager I'd suggest it less if she's a huge fan of the franchise like I am and suggest it more if she's more indifferent to the series
Yeah, despite me noticing the flaws and that it wasn’t as much of a quality as the first 3, it still managed to provide an enjoyable experience for me at least, and it was nice seeing Tai Lung again and Zhen having Awkwafina’s voice is quite a nice touch. 👍👏
Wait wait wait. Are u telling me that Kung Fu Panda 4 brought back the previous 3 villains, and yet two of them don’t even have lines, and the other is just out of focus. Like what?
In our opinion we enjoyed it! We think it upholds its story alright without ruining it. I like how they handled Zhen’s character overall in contrast to the chameleon. Honestly think without the subplot of Po’s dads, they could of made more time for the furious 5 and the past villains. Overall enjoyable movie like the past 3. Solid 8.5/10.
@chaicake I legit thought this movie was gonna be worse than it actually was, so I was surprised when I watched it how much I liked it (pardon the grammar lol) I thought that Zhen would be the “annoying sidekick” character, but she had a lot more depth than I thought she was gonna have. I give it a 4/5 star review, and am pleasantly surprised
Yea, the movie went strong for most of its time until after the Tai Lungs fight, and I mean more like specific issues like bringing Kai back, Chameleon spawn camping Shen instantly, the caged villains not having a bit more chat during the fight, and Zhen finishing off chameleon too easily - they should have shown her at least exhausted to justify that one-shot from Zhen, we don't need another Rey situation. The movie might be weak for many others people on what it missed, but it still left a strong set up with Zhen as dragon warrior and Po as spiritual leader for next 2 movies - different branches of the same 2 paths of Po and Oogway went through could be explored from new perspective of new characters. And since F5 was kinda skipped in KFP 4, the character interaction between them, Zhen and new Po would hit the fanbase much better. If they get a proper budged and a good director, they can absolutely make an awesome movie
I still feel like this movie missed everything that made the first Kung Fu Pandas such great movies, which is the overall message being conveyed and understood by the end and having a resolution everyone feels good about Bringing Tai Lung back just for a nostalgic cameo is such a waste for his character, which is one of the best in KFP, it would have been amazing if he was brought back and was defeated, his defeat couls have wounded him deeply emotionally convinced maybe he was always a faliure, then through out the film he decides he has to help Po defea the villian and you coudlnhave some insanely deep moments with Po and Tai Lung sinply talking, outting Tai Lungs views on the world and himself into question then in the final battle when it looks like Po might lose and Tai Lung is given the opportunity to betray Po he refuses and helps Po in the final encounter showing how he has evolved past his anger and hatred and his humbling makes Po decide to make him the new Dragon Warrior. Thsi would have been the best arc in Kung Fu Panda is this was how things played out. This would have fit into the message of change the movie was going for and would have helped finish Tai Lungs character arc with him coming back as a better person and reuniting him with shifu at the end and both apologising for each of their mistakes. The little fox character was just annoying honestly but i would have prefered it if in this movie the furious 5 were disbanding to pursue their own future. Po would have a hard time reconciling with this since he doesnt wa t everone to leave him and in the end when he accept that he too must change to pursue his own future this would call Po to create a new furious 5 with Zhen possiblly leading the new team being trained by Po. Had this been the story we could have had many character fo through their respective arcs and possibly had one of the best Kung Fu Panda films Po learns to accept change and embracses his role as spiritual leader and teacher Tai Lung learns where he went wrong and changes to put aside his self entitlement and brutality for a slighly more gentle nature And Zhen puts her life of crime behind her to better herself and become more than what she was Also cutting out the whole sub plot with Po's two fathers (it really didnt add anything to the plot beyond bad slapstick comedy)
I don't think that's the reason though, the second Puss In Boots had a similiar budget to Kung Fu Panda 4 and much lower compare to the first Puss in Boots
@@penguinxxboy5930 yeah but in the first puss in boots there wasn’t as many characters they could being back that were legendary just puss and kitty, but KFP had a lot of characters that would have influence the plot to be better for example Po could have ask Tigress to be the new dragon worrier, but she could turn that down saying that she doesn’t have that goal anymore and to give the title to someone who can have their lives be better thanks to it.
Personally if I got the opportunity I would skip KFP5 for now and try to make a better fourth movie with the same plot because I do like the idea of old villain returning and a new dragon worrier.
At least Kung Fu Panda 4 is a better fourth movie then Pixar’s Toy Story 4. Edit: Okay I get it, my opinion is a hot take, but it’s nothing to bite back at me for.
Definitely not. Toy Story 4 has a good villain, some good character moments, and it’s able to bring Woody’s arch full circle sort of. Toy Story 4 kinda explores another side of a toy’s life that we never seen before and it’s able to develop that concept. Kung Fu Panda 4 was mediocre at best while not really adding anything much to the character or the world overall. Also I’m speaking for this as a fan of both Kung Fu Panda and Toy Story.
@@fancygamer5896 agree 100% as a fan of both franchises, they call Toy Story 4 pointless and I can see there’s plenty of flaws but Kung Fu Panda 4 was definitely pointless. At least Toy Story 4 showed the original gang even if they were sidelined, Furious Five never even spoke and were replaced with new boring characters.
Gotta admit that DreamWorks' 3D kinda improved, but still it'd be much better if they brought the other animtion styles back. Particularly 2D, claymation and even fusions between this & that. Same with Disney, WB etc.
*Spoilers* Honestly I want to love the movie especially since I love the Kung Fu Panda franchise besides HTTYD But the movie to me was kinda dull Very predictable The concept of the villains from the first 3 films coming back via by portal straight from Spider Man No Way Home I was intrigued at the idea especially since Lord Shen (my favorite villain) was killed When Tai Lung and Kai were sent to the spirit realm I wanted to see them interact with each other but sadly Kai and Shen didn't speak at all nor they didn't interact Also when Po was told it's time to chose the next dragon warrior I thought who is he gonna pick but when the first trailer dropped and the Furious Five weren't present and Zhen was the only character next to Po It was very obvious who it would be The movie was said to have the lowest budget compared to the other three Which explains no Furious Five, No dialogue from Kai and Shen who were voiced by JK Simmons and Gary Oldman I think the budget kinda hurt the movie cause if the movie had more budget it would've had most of the characters speak and present Animations still great though
I feel like this movie wasn't necessarily supposed to be just AS impactful as the first ones but only because they purposely just needed to lay a foundation for the next trilogy which leads me to believe they used a smaller budget cause of it anyway
I also think so - Zhen got really a lot of care compared to other stuff and character. Getting new dragon warrior and spiritual leader would allow to explore previously missed branches of the storied from the first movies.
I just watched the fourth one yesterday. I really do enjoy the Kung Fu Panda franchise for the visuals, storytelling, and the deeper messages of discovering oneself. The villians are badass. The fourth one is watchable, but there was a lot of missed potential with this movie. The chameleon stealing the Furious Five’s abilities and forms would have been cool. Also, I am bothered by how they completely wasted Tai Lung, Lord Shen, and General Kai. I would have been cool if Lord Shen and General Kai would have at least gotten a line of dialogue, but they we were just thrown in and barely had screen time. I am also disappointed about not seeing the hypothesized Tai Luang redemption arc coming true. That would have been deemed worthy. Overall, the movie was watchable, but definitely wasted a lot of potential. Otherwise, it would have been next tier
I hope that in a next installment they know how to take advantage of their characters but I would like it to be another director or at least have a more serious tone, there is potential and I feel that they can do better and straighten out the saga
@@cristalmagic8664 Yea, even with messed up end of KFP 4 regarding Kai (that isn't even supposed to exist), wasted opportunity of Tai Lung and Shen bowing down to Po, and kinda weak villain, the movie still left a really strong set up for next 2 movies with dragon warrior Zhen and spiritual leader Po, and since F5 was missing in KFP4, the character interaction between them could be really good. Lets hope DW will see the issue, get a proper director and not cut the budged in half compared to previous movies.
After seeing Ruby Guillman being a box office flop that's just meh, and seeing that Orion and the Dark was fantastic...up until the second half, I wasn't expecting much from Kung Fu Panda 4. I haven't seen it yet, but after promising potential the previous films had, I had a feeling that the movie was going to be a third strike instead of a home run. Still a shame the movie was going to be as good as I was hoping for it to be, though. I thought Kung Fu Panda 3, while albeit being the weakest of the trilogy, was a great continuation to Po's character arc. I figured that while a 4th movie might not be necessary, Po's struggling role of being a teacher could heighten his development. Plus, I haven't seen any trailers or news of the movie to avoid spoilers, but the Furious Five's absence is definitely a red flag. Bless you for mentioning Shrek Forever After too. It's not as good as the first two films, but it's definitely an misunderstood gem.
Yea, Akwafina doesn't fit Zhen in quite some situations - the most obvious example of it for me is Zhen saying to Po that there is nothing saying dragon or warrior about him. I watched the movie in Ukrainian dub first, and after seeing the trailer I understood how much more fitting the dub voice actress was.
A grip I had with the film was Shifu he was annoying. I didn’t mind him in 2 or 3. Wanting Po to choose a successor and wanting to use wisdom felt forced to progress the story.
I had the opportunity to watch _Kung Fu Panda 4_ in theater on Sunday, March 10, 2024. My conclusion is that _Kung Fu Panda 4_ is an imperfect yet enjoyable start to a potential new sequel trilogy for the film series. While it is not up to par with the previous trilogy, it has planted the seed for something more to grow in the future. Despite its awkward and uneven presentation, I hope the fourth film has not discouraged everyone from wanting more in the fifth and sixth films. Overall, I look forward to whatever comes next for Po, Zhen, Shifu, and the Furious Five in the future. SKADOOSH!
Yea, with how Shifu disliked Zhen, and likely other of F5 would from her past, the drama here could be crazy, especially if catalyzed by right conditions like a villain or something else. Really hope next 2 movies would get a proper budged and a director.
I Guess Madagascar 4 isn’t gonna be the new puss in boots the last wish and isn’t gonna be well loved like the first 3 films if it’s ever announced to be made so sad :(
If ever they want to continue the franchise with two (or four) movies, they really should just give the Furious Five their own movies (honestly, I think six might as well be enough, for the next new saga to be where this time, the Furious Five be the main characters, just as long as it isn’t too smart for DreamWorks to do.
I do wish the voice actors of Kai and Shen Returned to reprise their roles. I do also wish Tai-long had a bit of a redemption arc to. The movie was a terrible I will admit that, but it could’ve been better. Personally, I’d give it a 7.5/10.
This movie being just an introduction to a new character and a new trilogy is fine. As long as the next two are better, I’m willing to forgive this movie for being mediocre. But my hopes aren’t very high…
Even though I have yet seen the movie, it would not be the same without the iconic Furious 5. Personally I would’ve loved to see how Po and Tigress’s relationship since there is a bit hint of romance between those two King Fu sifus.
Kai got deleted from creation so this must be a different reality where Kai didnt go steal the chi of other masters. So the character grwoth in the third movie didnt happen so thats why Po is so childish.
Could someone explain to me why awkwafina is so populair? I mean she doesn't even voice act. In every movie i've seen her in she does the exact same rol, the same voice, the same sounds. She never does anything different. She never even tries.
I just watch the movie yesterday with my family I loved it for me I was loved it as well still it felt like I was missing something that made 3 movies amazing, but all in all it was fun with its comedic, action scene, and message I also noticed about change at least in my opinion.
It's not "OK". I love the Kung Fu Panda series, but this latest new movie is an insult. Zhen knows kung fu, but the Chameleon can't?! Why?! Her excuse was because she's small....but what about Master Mantis?! He's much smaller than the Chameleon and he kicks butt! They even scrapped out the idea for why Po is going to Juniper City because Master Shifu was kidnapped and put in an enchanted cage. Furthermore, Shifu would of ended up seeing Tai-Lung for the last time reunion before departing back into the afterlife. Again, both ideas were scrapped out. The villain's name was lazy, her motives were contradictory, the stakes were very underwhelming and it was a major disappointment compared to the last 3 villains. The Furious Five were all left out and reduced down to non-voiced cameos. Li-Shan, Po's biological father, was reduced down to being a joke and weak, meek father concerned for Po's safety than rather than being a trained fighter and chi user, that was shown at flashbacks of the 2nd movie and the end of the 3rd movie. Zhen, the new fox thief character, who already knows kung-fu and the movie never explained how, when and where did she learned it from. It feels like she's just an addition fill-in to replace the Furious Five. Zhen is like the symbol of "girl power" and her "flaws" doesn't make sense to the movie, kinda making her a total Mary Sue girl boss in disguise. In the end, the animation quality and the music are great, but the story suffered alot with too many plotholes caused by executive corporate meddling. The movie overall was not amazing by any means. It was just....serviceable, to make their money back. While the critics did give this movie a positive reception, the hardcore, true fans will know the truth of this 4th film's true value.
i mean with the how modern animated sequel/remakes are nowadays, an OK is probably the highest praise it can get also i guess Last Wish was just a Lightning In A Bottle
People were expecting peak after last wish, myself included. But we all forgot this is DreamWorks. The same guys who made Shrek and then go make Trolls and Boss Baby.
I watched KF4 on Saturday. Tbh, I liked KF4 but in my opinion, it had some flaws. I think Li Shan's (Po's biological father) character was a bit unnecessary in this movie. Sure, his role in the movie had to disguise himself as Po. But when Ping is trying to comfort Po after Zhen's betrayal, I felt like Shan was out of place during that scene. He should've had more lines. I wish Po gave the Dragon Warrior to Tigress. Both Po and Tigress have been close friends since Po defeated Tai Lung. During KF2, Tigress hugged Po and made him stay in the dungeon so she doesn't lose her friend. Her kung fu is amazing too. Maybe once Tigress becomes the new Dragon Warrior, have Zhen become the new member of the Furious 5. Maybe Zhen should've stayed with the Chameleon, she would know something is wrong and help Po fight the Chameleon alongside the Furious 5.
The fact Kung Fu Panda of all things went mid is scaring me that animation and family movies are dead. They’re in the hands of a maximum of 5 or so studios that don’t know how to create something original and great, so we end up with mediocre sequels. I love Kung Fu Panda but I think these types of movies are dying when we’re stuck with these studios
I just think that Kung Fu Panda 4 was pretty decent but it was great.. not the greatest one than every single film of Kung Fu Panda but it was a great film. But I know the reason why that Kung Fu Panda 4 is getting that type of hate is because that the people are just losing their minds after the drama of Megamind versus the Doom Syndicate and Megamind Rules. Sometimes people just give DreamWorks some confusing choices that they can't even do something better. I know the film got a lot of flaws but I just don't care. I just enjoy the film
Yeah I agree it was just alright. It had great potential especially with a villain who can shapeshift into other villains and steal their powers but mostly underutilized that idea.
Walking out of the theaters was one of the most disappointing feelings in a while. Going from films about grief and genocide and healing to…this cash grab. The difference in effort and themes and emotions were so different compared to its past films. No, I was not “ok”, thus for me I don’t consider this film even “ok”, lol
my complaints were: the ending was rushed, after the entire battle po just no diffed her after the director realized that the staff existed. Shen and kai had absolutely 0 lines, villains were hyped up and marketed to be a big part of the movie but were in cages the entirety of the film. the furious 5 weren't in the movie except for like the credits scene which they still had no lines. the villain was extremely uninteresting, basic motivation, basic personality, backstory makes absolutely 0 sense. most of the jokes didn't land and fell flat. why did po have to choose a successor so fast? oogway was an old wrinkly 1000-year-old turtle or whatever when he took po in? last of all, this movie was completely un-needed, the 3rd film perfectly wrapped up the masterpiece that is kung fu panda, but they had to get their grubby hands and milk the franchise to its last morsel.
As a kung fu panda fan for over 8 years now, and also waited for this to come out in also 8 years. No i dont think its ok, if you disagree with me thats fine, but imagine waiting for this shit for over long periods of time and then it turns out to be a mid movie, of course it would definitely be disappointing and heartbreaking at the same time especially for a die hard kung fu panda fan myself
U know this i can actually agree on it was alright but didn’t have a deep meaning and I think although the animation has gotten better nothing can really beat 1 2 3 like it was more darker not as smooth and in all comparison was super great can’t wait to watch it still but I hope it has a deeper meaning than the trailer shows
I had the opportunity to watch _Kung Fu Panda 4_ in theater on Sunday, March 10, 2024. Although _Kung Fu Panda 4_ is not up to par with the original trilogy, I hope this has not discouraged everyone from hoping for the fifth and sixth films of the potential new sequel trilogy. Although the fourth film is imperfect, it has planted the seed for something more to grow in the future. I look forward to whatever comes next for Po, Zhen, Shifu, and the Furious Five. My predictions for _Kung Fu Panda_ 5 and 6: The fifth film will have Po, Zhen, and the Furious Five meeting and training potential new members of the next generation of the Furious Five. The sixth film will end with an elderly Po ascending to the Spirit Realm and Zhen becoming the new Senior Master of the Jade Palace training the next generation of the Furious Five. SKADOOSH!
Me too Toy story 3 was the perfect ending to the whole story but 4 was just uncalled for kung fu panda 3 didn't feel like perfect ending of story to me in fact it could have been somehow I also wis JK Simmons channeled his whiplash performance to kai that would have made kai one of my favorite villains but he was just a bland jokester that I couldn't take seriously
Disney, Hollywood, and so many other companies are just too rotten to the public anymore, so I'm willing to change them after I've got a dream job and stop all this madness in today's world to make "What" we really want to watch, cause as long Hollywood redeemed themselves, Disney and the companies will have another chance.
Honestly I wished excepting to be as good or better than first 3 kung fu panda movie and way it took 8 years to make it would have been worthwhile and anticipating wished would have been as great as Puss in Boots: The Last Wish whom sequel that surpassed original puss in boots movie something the fourth movie could follow the same path then again studios that made got too carried away with success of previous movies they tended to next installment just for moneys rather than art storytelling and entertainment value or had time or efforts to make worthwhile movie or sequel to justify it existence
The problem is that there is a lot of filler, a subplot with Po's parents does not contribute much no matter how nice they are, the chameleon needed a better construction and for its use of camouflage to be more exploited and for it to be a real challenge, Zhen and his character could have been used better or at least not taken the obvious route, Tai Lung, Shen and Kai deserved dialogue, moments where we see something of them, with Po or each other trying to find a way to escape, I don't know, that It would compensate for the lack of 5, I also hope that the 5th installment is better cared for and that DW sees that we want something of quality with this franchise
Just got back from the movie here’s my full review I loved it It’s great to see Po and Zhen I lived as well she crafty and sun and for me enjoyable and shifu getting annoyed is funny and I was so happy to see Ti lang,Kia,and shen.Of course the animation is beautiful of course 👌🏾✨✨✨.Negative the chameleon good villain but bland compared to the othered but enjoyable but her crawling is creepy 😰 and another is yes the movie is fast paced and could prefer a long story.Im not disappointed about the furious five because I don’t there really necessary I feel like Zhen is already in the side characters roles but it was nice that they got to make a cameo.So in summary yes it is one of the weaker ones in the franchise but definitely enjoyable and definitely worth the wait for me 9/10 and Jack singing is perfect I love him and the series.
At least the chameleon was better villain than kai Viola Davis (Amanda Waller) actually put out an intimidating presence unlike Kai despite his bulky presence JK Simmons couldn't channel his Miles fletcher character (whiplash) to kai to make him terrifying instead he put out his J Jonah Jameson but less interesting and not threatening
@usanatv2007sentertainmentinc. Kai had zero motivation he was just generic tv show villain who became evil for no reason the chameleon at least felt like a Dark version of Po and Judy Hops had the same underestimated motive
@@MegaDynamiteDanStill I didn't really find Chameleon really interesting how she's learn to use her shapeshifting magic in the past. I get that she reflects as dark Po if he gets rejected by his master but the execution was pretty bland there's one character who is smaller than her like Mantis who didn't get rejected due to his small appearance they never really show her clear backstory, she doesn't really intimidating I think that Kai has a great potential villain sadly he's too wasted as a villain, the problem with the third one is less mature than the previous films due to reports that the second one is being too dark for kids. They never showed him how he's able to collect souls for his own benefit as a pawn and start using dark magics it less expands his relationship with Oogway the part he was saying " he betrayed me" shows that he kinda wants to protect Oogway by his dark powers, but Oogway had a change of heart since he was taught by a pandas to learn Chi so Oogway confronted and betrayed him cause of Kai's obsession to take other people's chi
I find it a pretty disent and a good movie (sadly yes Chameleon kinda sucks, but hey at least shes a vilian). Also i saw many people talking Tai Lung should've been the next dragon warrior...did they forget the 1st movie? He was already too perfect and Po was allowed to be dragon warrior while Tai Lung got skadooshed to Spirit Realm and he had no point of going back. So Zhen is a better option.
Can you please review the rest of Sony animation after the release of Spiderman Beyond the Spider-verse? Also, I think we need more information about Disney sidekicks. Lastly, I'd love a ranking of every animated Disney movie of the 2020s so far once 2024 is over.
Ok is a big step down from where Kung fu panda 2 brought the original film. Kung fu panda 4 is what critics thought the 1st film was going to be, and that’s a bitter pill.
It's painfully average imo. It's fine, but nothing exceptional and I was disappointed with the old villains not having much of a role at all (Shen and Kai have like two voice lines a piece and Tai Lung has a like three minute fight scene and ten voice lines) because IT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST SELLING POINTS IN THE ADS. I'm glad my niece loved it because she's the reason I went to see it, but my worries were definitely warranted. I didn't expect the 10/10 masterpieces that were 1 and 2, but I set my expectations around the 7/10 that is the third and was still incredibly disappointed. Iþ just lacks so much of the impact that the first few had
All these review channels coming off mega mind 2 thinking a 4th installment movie is going to be the best one. Compared to other 4th movies, it wasn't bad at all
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Not including the Furious Five is a... choice. The wrong choice, if you ask me. It's a clear mistake to ignore characters that have been involved in the story and the protagonist's development from the start. It sounds like they wasted Tai Lung too, which is a real shame because they could've done something truly interesting with his character and further explored the dynamic between him and Po. If you're going to bring a dead character back, you need to make it count.
i think it has to do with the voice actors
@@timmynotjerry That's definitely a possibility... and another reason why they shouldn't cast celebrities in animation over lesser-known voice actors. Half the budget in these projects probably goes to paying celebs.
@@AnimaVox_ yes, this movie had a significantly lower budget so i think that also plays into the quality of the movie, its sad to see honestly but it is what it is
it’s not like they had a choice the movie was expensive as hell and they were on a low budget
The 3rd movie was honestly enough in the main plotline..
Huh
Doesn't mean kung fu panda 4 has no place to be, I enjoyed it
I agree. KFP 4 was just a cash grab. The fact the Furious Five has no major role in it is just stupid.
@@EvelynL.1112 the Furious Five were the main motivation for Po to become a great warrior, he went throught character developpment, even battling a dangerous prisoner, an army, and a powerful warrior from the world of the dead.
Removing them, remove all the developpment that happened in the three movies.. It remove the epic moments from them alltogether, how a panda without much skills could confront his fear and end a battle, in the most impressive way ever.
@@niploblol you must be a 12-year-old then
I liked this enough, but it’s far away from the other Kung fu pandas in terms of quality. I still love this franchise, especially the 1st one. But I was kind of disappointed with little to no Furious 5 and the lack of villain representation like the advertising promised.
That’s saying something considering the 3rd film.
@@HeilRay The 3rd movie is fire
@JordanEdits1
If the 3rd film was fire, then the 1st film was a volcano and the 2nd film was The Sun.
@@HeilRay Yes actually
And Kung Fu Panda 4 is a flame@@HeilRay
The fact that the Furious Five wasn't in the movie was tue biggest *Bruh* moment.
*Spoilers*
The only appearance they had was helping Zhen train near the end of the movie. And before you ask, no, they don't have any dialogue. They couldn't get the VAs to play their characters.
I just saw the movie so yeah
@@PizzaLover429 i think seth did return for only a couple voice lines
I mean i don’t know where exactly they would have fit in this story
The fact that I expect more; even with a roughly 1hr and 27 minute film, was a bruh moment.
I’d figured that if weren’t able to see the furious 5, then the film would be utilizing Tai Lung’s character more,
because I thought that we would have a second plot based on him😅.
But the movie didn’t do that unfortunately.
I’d still thought it was alright, but it doesn’t have much of the emotional impact like the last movies.
2:02 I think the reason why The Chameleon didn’t have much to do with Po, is because she is supposed to be Zhen’s villain as Zhen is now taking over as the Dragon Warrior.
Good point. And to a degree, thats been exemplified in every movie. Tai Lung was Shifu’s burden and Kai was Oogway’s. Only Shen has a personal vendetta with Po specifically
@@xenomorphbiologist-xx1214 Even though Tai Lung was Shifu’s burden, there was still a strong parallel between Po and Tai Lung regarding the acceptance of yourself as you are. Even if the villain isn’t “for Po”, they should still have some sort of connection to him with their character traits.
@@gabrielhagedorn5942 agreed
@@gabrielhagedorn5942exactly
That wouldnt be a problem, if she was a better developed villain.
The idea of a villain who can copy the abilities of past villains is one with a ton of potential but was severely underused. They had the opportunity here to have all the villains fight alongside Po to get their power back or something sick like that.
Yea, but animating 14 models instead of 3 would have been super expensive, and unfortunately, they didn't get a proper budged. They did fairly well for the unfair half the budged previous movies had.
Not even gonna lie, Chameleon doesn't even look like a Chameleon, she looks more like a gecko.
Cause the eyes are too normal?
@@revol4372 Yeah
SPOILERS
my greatest disappointment from the film was the final fight. Something felt wrong with the chameleon shape shifting into monstrosity that combined every animal she stole the form of.
That’s probably how I’d describe the movie, lackluster and “off”. Even the models look weird, not just Zhen, compare the wolves and bulls to previous movies. The bulls are more noticeable with their eyes but more details weird when you look back at the designs of the three movies.
Even the soundtrack wasn’t as memorable to me. I think when they first arrived at Juniper City, that was the ost that stood out most.
Needless to say I was disappointed. It doesn’t feel like a kfp movie.
I think the battle could have been better. I liked how the chameleon looked like a dragon but combining the parts of different animals, but it needed more tension and greater moments of seriousness to make the battle better.
I wish she took advantage of changing forms/fighting styles more in the final fight. It would've been a great way to give Po one last challenge by having him use all the skills he's learnt as the Dragon Warrior. (Since he's transitioning into the role of Spiritual Leader of the Valley of Peace)
More like kfp very long tv episode.
Us megamind’s fans were massacred so po’s fans at least have an ok movie
@normalgirlcvco
It’s so true tho lol 😭
I thought it was good movie
Yeah. Megamind ain’t recovering from that sequel. While Kung Fu Panda still has a chance to do better in the future 😂
As Shaff pointed out, a buddy-buddy adventure with Lee and Ping would've been charming and fun.
As a spinoff or short movie yeah. Which reminds me, Kung Fu Panda needs to start making spinoffs and shorts movies again
Tai Lung not having a redemption arc pisses me off ngl, especially after they hyped him up so much in the trailers
Except he kind of did have one. Just not what you expected
@@silashurd3597yeah, I'm glad he respected Po. But no Shifu, sigh
Can't wait for Kung fu panda 5 to be even more okay.
Maybe it’ll be alright
They will probably give it a bigger budget thankfully so we can have better writers and directors, and the furious five could have a way bigger role
I hope that DW sees the criticism and seeks to take better care of the next film and be able to do what this installment could not and better look for another director who knows how to handle it in a more serious and risky way.
Hopefully they’ll get the whole cast back and make it good again
@@orange_turtle3412well I got good news for you. The director stayed that furious five will play a much bigger role in the fifth movie
I haven’t seen the movie, but from reviews I’ve seen it’s good to okay, not as great as the first two, but not terrible.
Nah it's pretty bad because of it's pacing.
@@usanatv2007sentertainmentinc. It's overall bad. Just better to skip this film
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@@bigstarwarsfan5714 🤡
Holy f...Kung Fu Panda 3 came out 8 years ago. EIGHT!!!
Time flies
I would actually say it’s a bad movie rather than okay, if you take the context for the series, it kind of destroys every single character arc every character has. Your saying shifu of all people doesn’t want to investigate the possibility the tai lung has returned? Shifu the same guy who said “double the guards, double everything” at the mere thought of him escaping.
Shifu also wants the furious five to handle it? After they got bodied by tai lung in the first movie?
Then they make po’s panda dad a joke and a coward.. and i think at one point they even make the joke about him “feeling like a warrior”…. But…he is a warrior…? In KF2 in po’s flashback you literally see him defending his village against shen, he is not a coward.
And po? I think that’s the most obvious… po feeling insecure about “who am i if not the dragon warrior” is the most redundant plot point because the past three movies are literally about that. Even the first, “there is no secret ingredient, it’s just you”
My only defense for Po’s dad is maybe only at times when his family’s lives are in danger, he becomes brave, but every other time or when stakes aren’t as high, he shows his coward side. But I think making Po’s dad and the rest of the Pandas a joke was not a great choice either imo.
Po dad is actually really justified , he was behaving the same way he behaved in the third movie , and him being afraid it’s in character , he acts brave when the situation requieres him to do so
The furious 5 have come a long way since the first movie , so that explains why shifu is less worried about it , he doesn’t feel that tai long is as big a threat as he was in the first movie
You think shifu cares about tai lung now. First off shifu only lost to tai lung because he realized he was wrong. As you see during their fight he was on the defensive most of the time. Secondly the furious five are like 5 times stronger than they were in the first movie. They could easily take tai lung. And his dad isn’t a coward. It’s more like a fight or flight response. Of course when he’s in danger he will fight for him and his family. It’s not a bad movie by any means. Is it great no. But it’s a decent movie. I watched it twice and enjoyed it both times .
I actually told my manager I'd suggest it less if she's a huge fan of the franchise like I am and suggest it more if she's more indifferent to the series
Yeah, despite me noticing the flaws and that it wasn’t as much of a quality as the first 3, it still managed to provide an enjoyable experience for me at least, and it was nice seeing Tai Lung again and Zhen having Awkwafina’s voice is quite a nice touch. 👍👏
Wait wait wait. Are u telling me that Kung Fu Panda 4 brought back the previous 3 villains, and yet two of them don’t even have lines, and the other is just out of focus. Like what?
In our opinion we enjoyed it! We think it upholds its story alright without ruining it. I like how they handled Zhen’s character overall in contrast to the chameleon. Honestly think without the subplot of Po’s dads, they could of made more time for the furious 5 and the past villains. Overall enjoyable movie like the past 3. Solid 8.5/10.
@chaicake
I legit thought this movie was gonna be worse than it actually was, so I was surprised when I watched it how much I liked it (pardon the grammar lol)
I thought that Zhen would be the “annoying sidekick” character, but she had a lot more depth than I thought she was gonna have. I give it a 4/5 star review, and am pleasantly surprised
@chaicake
Also jack black did great (as always)
@@Nat_20_Baby-tx8ir Agreed!
Yea, the movie went strong for most of its time until after the Tai Lungs fight, and I mean more like specific issues like bringing Kai back, Chameleon spawn camping Shen instantly, the caged villains not having a bit more chat during the fight, and Zhen finishing off chameleon too easily - they should have shown her at least exhausted to justify that one-shot from Zhen, we don't need another Rey situation.
The movie might be weak for many others people on what it missed, but it still left a strong set up with Zhen as dragon warrior and Po as spiritual leader for next 2 movies - different branches of the same 2 paths of Po and Oogway went through could be explored from new perspective of new characters. And since F5 was kinda skipped in KFP 4, the character interaction between them, Zhen and new Po would hit the fanbase much better.
If they get a proper budged and a good director, they can absolutely make an awesome movie
@@Nat_20_Baby-tx8irzhen character was solid
I still feel like this movie missed everything that made the first Kung Fu Pandas such great movies, which is the overall message being conveyed and understood by the end and having a resolution everyone feels good about
Bringing Tai Lung back just for a nostalgic cameo is such a waste for his character, which is one of the best in KFP, it would have been amazing if he was brought back and was defeated, his defeat couls have wounded him deeply emotionally convinced maybe he was always a faliure, then through out the film he decides he has to help Po defea the villian and you coudlnhave some insanely deep moments with Po and Tai Lung sinply talking, outting Tai Lungs views on the world and himself into question then in the final battle when it looks like Po might lose and Tai Lung is given the opportunity to betray Po he refuses and helps Po in the final encounter showing how he has evolved past his anger and hatred and his humbling makes Po decide to make him the new Dragon Warrior.
Thsi would have been the best arc in Kung Fu Panda is this was how things played out.
This would have fit into the message of change the movie was going for and would have helped finish Tai Lungs character arc with him coming back as a better person and reuniting him with shifu at the end and both apologising for each of their mistakes.
The little fox character was just annoying honestly but i would have prefered it if in this movie the furious 5 were disbanding to pursue their own future. Po would have a hard time reconciling with this since he doesnt wa t everone to leave him and in the end when he accept that he too must change to pursue his own future this would call Po to create a new furious 5 with Zhen possiblly leading the new team being trained by Po.
Had this been the story we could have had many character fo through their respective arcs and possibly had one of the best Kung Fu Panda films
Po learns to accept change and embracses his role as spiritual leader and teacher
Tai Lung learns where he went wrong and changes to put aside his self entitlement and brutality for a slighly more gentle nature
And Zhen puts her life of crime behind her to better herself and become more than what she was
Also cutting out the whole sub plot with Po's two fathers (it really didnt add anything to the plot beyond bad slapstick comedy)
That would have been a much better plot.
I think the main problem was the budget wasn’t as high as the others.
I don't think that's the reason though, the second Puss In Boots had a similiar budget to Kung Fu Panda 4 and much lower compare to the first Puss in Boots
@@penguinxxboy5930 yeah but in the first puss in boots there wasn’t as many characters they could being back that were legendary just puss and kitty, but KFP had a lot of characters that would have influence the plot to be better for example Po could have ask Tigress to be the new dragon worrier, but she could turn that down saying that she doesn’t have that goal anymore and to give the title to someone who can have their lives be better thanks to it.
@@blaizecontee7093 that's true as well
@@blaizecontee7093i agree, i can see a good film under this, but they should’ve given it a longer run time and a higher budget
Personally if I got the opportunity I would skip KFP5 for now and try to make a better fourth movie with the same plot because I do like the idea of old villain returning and a new dragon worrier.
At least Kung Fu Panda 4 is a better fourth movie then Pixar’s Toy Story 4.
Edit: Okay I get it, my opinion is a hot take, but it’s nothing to bite back at me for.
I disagree, while 4 is not as good as the first trilogy of Toy Story it was a much better closer than Kung Fu Panda 4 was a start of a new trilogy.
Definitely not. Toy Story 4 has a good villain, some good character moments, and it’s able to bring Woody’s arch full circle sort of. Toy Story 4 kinda explores another side of a toy’s life that we never seen before and it’s able to develop that concept. Kung Fu Panda 4 was mediocre at best while not really adding anything much to the character or the world overall. Also I’m speaking for this as a fan of both Kung Fu Panda and Toy Story.
why did you drop this like it was facts
@@fancygamer5896 agree 100% as a fan of both franchises, they call Toy Story 4 pointless and I can see there’s plenty of flaws but Kung Fu Panda 4 was definitely pointless. At least Toy Story 4 showed the original gang even if they were sidelined, Furious Five never even spoke and were replaced with new boring characters.
I agree
Gotta admit that DreamWorks' 3D kinda improved, but still it'd be much better if they brought the other animtion styles back. Particularly 2D, claymation and even fusions between this & that. Same with Disney, WB etc.
The only problem I had was the pacing in the movie. It went too fast for me
🙄
My favorite scene in the movie was when
Zhen went on to hug Po instead of attacking him again, I found that very sweet.
This movie feels like a spin off TV show episode.
*Spoilers*
Honestly I want to love the movie especially since I love the Kung Fu Panda franchise besides HTTYD
But the movie to me was kinda dull
Very predictable
The concept of the villains from the first 3 films coming back via by portal straight from Spider Man No Way Home
I was intrigued at the idea especially since Lord Shen (my favorite villain) was killed
When Tai Lung and Kai were sent to the spirit realm
I wanted to see them interact with each other but sadly Kai and Shen didn't speak at all nor they didn't interact
Also when Po was told it's time to chose the next dragon warrior
I thought who is he gonna pick but when the first trailer dropped and the Furious Five weren't present and Zhen was the only character next to Po
It was very obvious who it would be
The movie was said to have the lowest budget compared to the other three
Which explains no Furious Five, No dialogue from Kai and Shen who were voiced by JK Simmons and Gary Oldman
I think the budget kinda hurt the movie cause if the movie had more budget it would've had most of the characters speak and present
Animations still great though
I feel like this movie wasn't necessarily supposed to be just AS impactful as the first ones but only because they purposely just needed to lay a foundation for the next trilogy which leads me to believe they used a smaller budget cause of it anyway
I also think so - Zhen got really a lot of care compared to other stuff and character. Getting new dragon warrior and spiritual leader would allow to explore previously missed branches of the storied from the first movies.
@@volodymyr_budii true
I'm upset about how underwhelming this movie is and they have Shrek 5 coming 😭😭
It’s the most 7/10 movie you can get
I just watched the fourth one yesterday. I really do enjoy the Kung Fu Panda franchise for the visuals, storytelling, and the deeper messages of discovering oneself. The villians are badass.
The fourth one is watchable, but there was a lot of missed potential with this movie. The chameleon stealing the Furious Five’s abilities and forms would have been cool. Also, I am bothered by how they completely wasted Tai Lung, Lord Shen, and General Kai. I would have been cool if Lord Shen and General Kai would have at least gotten a line of dialogue, but they we were just thrown in and barely had screen time. I am also disappointed about not seeing the hypothesized Tai Luang redemption arc coming true. That would have been deemed worthy.
Overall, the movie was watchable, but definitely wasted a lot of potential. Otherwise, it would have been next tier
I hope that in a next installment they know how to take advantage of their characters but I would like it to be another director or at least have a more serious tone, there is potential and I feel that they can do better and straighten out the saga
@@cristalmagic8664 Yea, even with messed up end of KFP 4 regarding Kai (that isn't even supposed to exist), wasted opportunity of Tai Lung and Shen bowing down to Po, and kinda weak villain, the movie still left a really strong set up for next 2 movies with dragon warrior Zhen and spiritual leader Po, and since F5 was missing in KFP4, the character interaction between them could be really good.
Lets hope DW will see the issue, get a proper director and not cut the budged in half compared to previous movies.
It had a amazing concept but the excution could have been better
3:41 in case u wanna know What a six part storyline is called, its called a Hexalogy. Just letting u know ✌🏾
I thought kai was destroyed how was he in the spirit realm if you know what I mean
Fan service
He respawned
After seeing Ruby Guillman being a box office flop that's just meh, and seeing that Orion and the Dark was fantastic...up until the second half, I wasn't expecting much from Kung Fu Panda 4. I haven't seen it yet, but after promising potential the previous films had, I had a feeling that the movie was going to be a third strike instead of a home run.
Still a shame the movie was going to be as good as I was hoping for it to be, though. I thought Kung Fu Panda 3, while albeit being the weakest of the trilogy, was a great continuation to Po's character arc. I figured that while a 4th movie might not be necessary, Po's struggling role of being a teacher could heighten his development.
Plus, I haven't seen any trailers or news of the movie to avoid spoilers, but the Furious Five's absence is definitely a red flag.
Bless you for mentioning Shrek Forever After too. It's not as good as the first two films, but it's definitely an misunderstood gem.
The fact that both 4th films from Dreamworks have the same director....
I will replace to Jamie Chung to voice Zhen or someone other than Awkwafina
Yea, Akwafina doesn't fit Zhen in quite some situations - the most obvious example of it for me is Zhen saying to Po that there is nothing saying dragon or warrior about him. I watched the movie in Ukrainian dub first, and after seeing the trailer I understood how much more fitting the dub voice actress was.
Awkwafina didn't do anything wrong
A grip I had with the film was Shifu he was annoying. I didn’t mind him in 2 or 3. Wanting Po to choose a successor and wanting to use wisdom felt forced to progress the story.
I had the opportunity to watch _Kung Fu Panda 4_ in theater on Sunday, March 10, 2024. My conclusion is that _Kung Fu Panda 4_ is an imperfect yet enjoyable start to a potential new sequel trilogy for the film series. While it is not up to par with the previous trilogy, it has planted the seed for something more to grow in the future. Despite its awkward and uneven presentation, I hope the fourth film has not discouraged everyone from wanting more in the fifth and sixth films. Overall, I look forward to whatever comes next for Po, Zhen, Shifu, and the Furious Five in the future.
SKADOOSH!
Yea, with how Shifu disliked Zhen, and likely other of F5 would from her past, the drama here could be crazy, especially if catalyzed by right conditions like a villain or something else.
Really hope next 2 movies would get a proper budged and a director.
I really hope they pull a Puss in Boots The Last Wing and make the 5th one a masterpiece.
I Guess Madagascar 4 isn’t gonna be the new puss in boots the last wish and isn’t gonna be well loved like the first 3 films if it’s ever announced to be made so sad :(
If ever they want to continue the franchise with two (or four) movies, they really should just give the Furious Five their own movies (honestly, I think six might as well be enough, for the next new saga to be where this time, the Furious Five be the main characters, just as long as it isn’t too smart for DreamWorks to do.
So we can say that it's a movie that exists.
Hopefully Madagascar 4 and Shrek 5 will be good
The best part of the movie was jack black singing one more time
I do wish the voice actors of Kai and Shen Returned to reprise their roles. I do also wish Tai-long had a bit of a redemption arc to.
The movie was a terrible I will admit that, but it could’ve been better.
Personally, I’d give it a 7.5/10.
This movie being just an introduction to a new character and a new trilogy is fine. As long as the next two are better, I’m willing to forgive this movie for being mediocre. But my hopes aren’t very high…
Even though I have yet seen the movie, it would not be the same without the iconic Furious 5. Personally I would’ve loved to see how Po and Tigress’s relationship since there is a bit hint of romance between those two King Fu sifus.
Kai got deleted from creation so this must be a different reality where Kai didnt go steal the chi of other masters. So the character grwoth in the third movie didnt happen so thats why Po is so childish.
Did you see the trailer for the wild robot? What was your thoughts?
Idk, I didn't understand what exactly it was about and so, it didn't catch my attention.
Could someone explain to me why awkwafina is so populair?
I mean she doesn't even voice act. In every movie i've seen her in she does the exact same rol, the same voice, the same sounds. She never does anything different. She never even tries.
I like the “OK” it’s not bad nor it’s that good it’s in the middle. Sequel gets too much. Some movies are just one and done and it’s good
Still gon see it. 😜
The furious 5 not being in the movie made me ignore this entirely 😂😂that’s like seeing a justice league movie with just Lois and Alfred 🤦🏽
Bro the movie its called Kung fu Panda 😂
Which DreamWorks Animation four-quel do people think is better? Shrek Forever After or Kung Fu Panda 4?
Just watched S4, Shrek 4 is better. It has a beautiful message of appreciating the present and learning to move on from your past.
I just watch the movie yesterday with my family I loved it for me I was loved it as well still it felt like I was missing something that made 3 movies amazing, but all in all it was fun with its comedic, action scene, and message I also noticed about change at least in my opinion.
It's not "OK". I love the Kung Fu Panda series, but this latest new movie is an insult.
Zhen knows kung fu, but the Chameleon can't?! Why?! Her excuse was because she's small....but what about Master Mantis?! He's much smaller than the Chameleon and he kicks butt! They even scrapped out the idea for why Po is going to Juniper City because Master Shifu was kidnapped and put in an enchanted cage. Furthermore, Shifu would of ended up seeing Tai-Lung for the last time reunion before departing back into the afterlife. Again, both ideas were scrapped out. The villain's name was lazy, her motives were contradictory, the stakes were very underwhelming and it was a major disappointment compared to the last 3 villains. The Furious Five were all left out and reduced down to non-voiced cameos. Li-Shan, Po's biological father, was reduced down to being a joke and weak, meek father concerned for Po's safety than rather than being a trained fighter and chi user, that was shown at flashbacks of the 2nd movie and the end of the 3rd movie. Zhen, the new fox thief character, who already knows kung-fu and the movie never explained how, when and where did she learned it from. It feels like she's just an addition fill-in to replace the Furious Five. Zhen is like the symbol of "girl power" and her "flaws" doesn't make sense to the movie, kinda making her a total Mary Sue girl boss in disguise.
In the end, the animation quality and the music are great, but the story suffered alot with too many plotholes caused by executive corporate meddling. The movie overall was not amazing by any means. It was just....serviceable, to make their money back. While the critics did give this movie a positive reception, the hardcore, true fans will know the truth of this 4th film's true value.
i mean with the how modern animated sequel/remakes are nowadays, an OK is probably the highest praise it can get
also i guess Last Wish was just a Lightning In A Bottle
People were expecting peak after last wish, myself included. But we all forgot this is DreamWorks. The same guys who made Shrek and then go make Trolls and Boss Baby.
How to heck do you hand off the title of dragon warrior?
I watched KF4 on Saturday. Tbh, I liked KF4 but in my opinion, it had some flaws. I think Li Shan's (Po's biological father) character was a bit unnecessary in this movie. Sure, his role in the movie had to disguise himself as Po. But when Ping is trying to comfort Po after Zhen's betrayal, I felt like Shan was out of place during that scene. He should've had more lines. I wish Po gave the Dragon Warrior to Tigress. Both Po and Tigress have been close friends since Po defeated Tai Lung. During KF2, Tigress hugged Po and made him stay in the dungeon so she doesn't lose her friend. Her kung fu is amazing too. Maybe once Tigress becomes the new Dragon Warrior, have Zhen become the new member of the Furious 5. Maybe Zhen should've stayed with the Chameleon, she would know something is wrong and help Po fight the Chameleon alongside the Furious 5.
So, like Toy Story 4?
The fact Kung Fu Panda of all things went mid is scaring me that animation and family movies are dead. They’re in the hands of a maximum of 5 or so studios that don’t know how to create something original and great, so we end up with mediocre sequels. I love Kung Fu Panda but I think these types of movies are dying when we’re stuck with these studios
I just wish that movie would have 2.5d style like puss in boots the last wish.
I almost forgot dune 2 existed as I’m more focused on madame web as it’s a Spider-Man movie
I hope you’re aware madame web is literally the megamind 2 of spiderman
@@Amityz72323 Madame Web is a masterpiece compared to Megamind 2
@@Amityz72323No, madame web was the movie of all time, second to morbius.
I just think that Kung Fu Panda 4 was pretty decent but it was great.. not the greatest one than every single film of Kung Fu Panda but it was a great film. But I know the reason why that Kung Fu Panda 4 is getting that type of hate is because that the people are just losing their minds after the drama of Megamind versus the Doom Syndicate and Megamind Rules. Sometimes people just give DreamWorks some confusing choices that they can't even do something better. I know the film got a lot of flaws but I just don't care. I just enjoy the film
I like it more than the 3rd movie
Me too
Agree
Same, the third had plothole, character contradiction and very very bad jokes that don't land.
This one is atleast more funny and decent.
@@unnaturaldodo And the villain (kai) was lame
Yeah I agree it was just alright. It had great potential especially with a villain who can shapeshift into other villains and steal their powers but mostly underutilized that idea.
Aldone you should rank every dreamworks movie
Walking out of the theaters was one of the most disappointing feelings in a while. Going from films about grief and genocide and healing to…this cash grab. The difference in effort and themes and emotions were so different compared to its past films. No, I was not “ok”, thus for me I don’t consider this film even “ok”, lol
my complaints were:
the ending was rushed, after the entire battle po just no diffed her after the director realized that the staff existed.
Shen and kai had absolutely 0 lines, villains were hyped up and marketed to be a big part of the movie but were in cages the entirety of the film.
the furious 5 weren't in the movie except for like the credits scene which they still had no lines.
the villain was extremely uninteresting, basic motivation, basic personality, backstory makes absolutely 0 sense.
most of the jokes didn't land and fell flat.
why did po have to choose a successor so fast? oogway was an old wrinkly 1000-year-old turtle or whatever when he took po in?
last of all, this movie was completely un-needed, the 3rd film perfectly wrapped up the masterpiece that is kung fu panda, but they had to get their grubby hands and milk the franchise to its last morsel.
As a kung fu panda fan for over 8 years now, and also waited for this to come out in also 8 years. No i dont think its ok, if you disagree with me thats fine, but imagine waiting for this shit for over long periods of time and then it turns out to be a mid movie, of course it would definitely be disappointing and heartbreaking at the same time especially for a die hard kung fu panda fan myself
U know this i can actually agree on it was alright but didn’t have a deep meaning and I think although the animation has gotten better nothing can really beat 1 2 3 like it was more darker not as smooth and in all comparison was super great can’t wait to watch it still but I hope it has a deeper meaning than the trailer shows
I had the opportunity to watch _Kung Fu Panda 4_ in theater on Sunday, March 10, 2024. Although _Kung Fu Panda 4_ is not up to par with the original trilogy, I hope this has not discouraged everyone from hoping for the fifth and sixth films of the potential new sequel trilogy. Although the fourth film is imperfect, it has planted the seed for something more to grow in the future. I look forward to whatever comes next for Po, Zhen, Shifu, and the Furious Five.
My predictions for _Kung Fu Panda_ 5 and 6:
The fifth film will have Po, Zhen, and the Furious Five meeting and training potential new members of the next generation of the Furious Five.
The sixth film will end with an elderly Po ascending to the Spirit Realm and Zhen becoming the new Senior Master of the Jade Palace training the next generation of the Furious Five.
SKADOOSH!
have to wait 8 more years man.........
While this movie was unnecessary Im just glad its not Toy Story 4 bad.
Me too Toy story 3 was the perfect ending to the whole story but 4 was just uncalled for kung fu panda 3 didn't feel like perfect ending of story to me in fact it could have been somehow I also wis JK Simmons channeled his whiplash performance to kai that would have made kai one of my favorite villains but he was just a bland jokester that I couldn't take seriously
its fine
Is it a crime that I think this movie is on top with the first three?
It's your opinion but overall it's not close to the first 3
It better than the third in terms of entertainment.
I didn't like the third, so i'd put it above.
Disney, Hollywood, and so many other companies are just too rotten to the public anymore, so I'm willing to change them after I've got a dream job and stop all this madness in today's world to make "What" we really want to watch, cause as long Hollywood redeemed themselves, Disney and the companies will have another chance.
“Not so good at making sequels now huh!?”
Honestly I wished excepting to be as good or better than first 3 kung fu panda movie and way it took 8 years to make it would have been worthwhile and anticipating wished would have been as great as Puss in Boots: The Last Wish whom sequel that surpassed original puss in boots movie something the fourth movie could follow the same path then again studios that made got too carried away with success of previous movies they tended to next installment just for moneys rather than art storytelling and entertainment value or had time or efforts to make worthwhile movie or sequel to justify it existence
How bad is it when you're reviewing another movie you saw that you loved in a video about the titular movie?
The problem is that there is a lot of filler, a subplot with Po's parents does not contribute much no matter how nice they are, the chameleon needed a better construction and for its use of camouflage to be more exploited and for it to be a real challenge, Zhen and his character could have been used better or at least not taken the obvious route, Tai Lung, Shen and Kai deserved dialogue, moments where we see something of them, with Po or each other trying to find a way to escape, I don't know, that It would compensate for the lack of 5, I also hope that the 5th installment is better cared for and that DW sees that we want something of quality with this franchise
Just got back from the movie here’s my full review I loved it It’s great to see Po and Zhen I lived as well she crafty and sun and for me enjoyable and shifu getting annoyed is funny and I was so happy to see Ti lang,Kia,and shen.Of course the animation is beautiful of course 👌🏾✨✨✨.Negative the chameleon good villain but bland compared to the othered but enjoyable but her crawling is creepy 😰 and another is yes the movie is fast paced and could prefer a long story.Im not disappointed about the furious five because I don’t there really necessary I feel like Zhen is already in the side characters roles but it was nice that they got to make a cameo.So in summary yes it is one of the weaker ones in the franchise but definitely enjoyable and definitely worth the wait for me 9/10 and Jack singing is perfect I love him and the series.
Say what you want about the movie but I like it
Nobody's saying anything though. It's just his opinion much like you stated yours
@usanatv2007sentertainmentinc.Agreed 🤝🏻
At least the chameleon was better villain than kai Viola Davis (Amanda Waller) actually put out an intimidating presence unlike Kai despite his bulky presence JK Simmons couldn't channel his Miles fletcher character (whiplash) to kai to make him terrifying instead he put out his J Jonah Jameson but less interesting and not threatening
@usanatv2007sentertainmentinc. Kai had zero motivation he was just generic tv show villain who became evil for no reason the chameleon at least felt like a Dark version of Po and Judy Hops had the same underestimated motive
@@MegaDynamiteDanStill I didn't really find Chameleon really interesting how she's learn to use her shapeshifting magic in the past. I get that she reflects as dark Po if he gets rejected by his master but the execution was pretty bland there's one character who is smaller than her like Mantis who didn't get rejected due to his small appearance they never really show her clear backstory, she doesn't really intimidating
I think that Kai has a great potential villain sadly he's too wasted as a villain, the problem with the third one is less mature than the previous films due to reports that the second one is being too dark for kids. They never showed him how he's able to collect souls for his own benefit as a pawn and start using dark magics it less expands his relationship with Oogway the part he was saying " he betrayed me" shows that he kinda wants to protect Oogway by his dark powers, but Oogway had a change of heart since he was taught by a pandas to learn Chi so Oogway confronted and betrayed him cause of Kai's obsession to take other people's chi
At least Jack black was, as always, giving it his all.
I find it a pretty disent and a good movie (sadly yes Chameleon kinda sucks, but hey at least shes a vilian). Also i saw many people talking Tai Lung should've been the next dragon warrior...did they forget the 1st movie? He was already too perfect and Po was allowed to be dragon warrior while Tai Lung got skadooshed to Spirit Realm and he had no point of going back. So Zhen is a better option.
im so sad, i really think it should have been left as the brilliant trilogy that it was.
its alright
Can you please review the rest of Sony animation after the release of Spiderman Beyond the Spider-verse? Also, I think we need more information about Disney sidekicks. Lastly, I'd love a ranking of every animated Disney movie of the 2020s so far once 2024 is over.
Should’ve stayed as a duology
Based
I like 3
Hello
Ok is a big step down from where Kung fu panda 2 brought the original film.
Kung fu panda 4 is what critics thought the 1st film was going to be, and that’s a bitter pill.
I feel as if this movie is underrated
Just leaving a comment because i don't want to have any spoiler
Expecting a youtuber not to spoil you.. 🙄
You daid Wish was alright but you hated it but you say positive feedback about kung fu panda 4
It's painfully average imo. It's fine, but nothing exceptional and I was disappointed with the old villains not having much of a role at all (Shen and Kai have like two voice lines a piece and Tai Lung has a like three minute fight scene and ten voice lines) because IT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST SELLING POINTS IN THE ADS. I'm glad my niece loved it because she's the reason I went to see it, but my worries were definitely warranted. I didn't expect the 10/10 masterpieces that were 1 and 2, but I set my expectations around the 7/10 that is the third and was still incredibly disappointed. Iþ just lacks so much of the impact that the first few had
Honestly ever since Dreamworks was brought by Universal Pictures, they been making more mediocre products than good nowadays.
All these review channels coming off mega mind 2 thinking a 4th installment movie is going to be the best one. Compared to other 4th movies, it wasn't bad at all
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It’s way too fast paced too
When characters are your LAST priority in your story, book, video game, movie, etcetera, the story is always doomed to suck, in my opinion.