Everyone’s Overlooking Mira’s Genius
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- Опубликовано: 25 июн 2024
- Team Spirit won the International again, and I felt like Mira wasn't getting the praise that his teammates were getting. I decided to analyze their games to understand why, and found that Mira's playstyle is very unique for a position 4 player.
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Mira is the prettiest and sexiest in the team, who needs to look for his dota skill?
you good bro?
@@semafreak bro is down bad, let him be 💀
Yatoro was the prettiest when he had his milf hair before the final 😍
Yes. He is so good looking
Collapse >
Spirit is just incredible at every position right now. There's no weak link. And that's part of the reason why you see their cores look as good as they do. They're being set up for success in the best way possible by their team.
I think it's just a requirement to be no. 1 nowadays when the skill level is so high.
@@kjyu pos4 players are always incredibly good, great examples are fy and jerax
larl is a weak link, clearly all can see he just got carried.
@@praenidd dumbass do you even watch their games? And if you watch their vlogs, larl always give good suggestions and insights after their games, and is a very chill and funny guy. Although he and ts haven't been together for that long, i can definitely say that he's better than torontotoxic
@@praenidd larl gives his body to enemies in order to give space to other 2 cores. If it wasnt larl Yatoro and Collapse wouldnt have shine like rn
I like the fact that Mira, playing in the 4 pos, plays the role of 5, Miposhka, playing in the 5 pos, often plays the role of 4, and Larl, playing in the mid, often plays the 3 pos, taking the blow in fights, and Collapse, who seems to play in position 3, is a key figure around which games are often built, that is, in fact, playing the position 2. The only one in TS who plays according to the canons is Yatoro. The guys literally re-invented the tasks for different positions and implement their playstyle very well
Very good summary, bro! Super interesting. People are talking about these facts per Se, but when you put all them together like you did, it's mind-blowing
I think Collapse and Larl are switching roles. Also, Mira and Miposhka. It is similar to Topson playing like safelane or offlane if necessary.
Collapse can also play Pos. 1 in case Yatoro gets shut down by the other team. Korb3n recently said that the only player who could solo carry agame is indeed Collapse because he's a robot which likes Larl very much :D
Mira is their observer and map reader. Based on team spirit vlog, Mira is the first one that give team spirit information about enemies position.
The art of baiting - if you remember when OpenAI Five played against OG, multiple times OpenAI baited OG to throw their spells at a hero but made sure that that baiting hero ran away with just 5-10% HP. But by that time, all of OG's spells were on cooldown and OpenAI just cleaned the floor with its carry. OpenAI figured out the optimal way to win team fights in DOTA way back in 2019.
was it really? I have to watch those now
His Dark Willow is insane other supports play the hero and farm midas so that they can scale but Mira utilizes all of willow skills to control teamfights isolating some heroes so that their cores will have a bigger advantage without being greedy with items
Yes. And Mira is a very good guy, he does a lot to maintain a good atmosphere in the team. Collapse can be emotional, so he needs such a calm 4. Even in vlogs you can see how sensitively Mira takes care of him in real life, it's so cute
Mira studied at university in Warsaw, city that I live. My friend lived in the same dorm with him and told me that many people came to his room to watch him play Dota. He was a simple student and have never played in a team before. A year later he won the first The International in 2021.
Now that’s what’s up - from nobody to winning millions in a year
fr bro ?
Now that's a cool story
True. I lived with him in the dorm. Whenever he wasn't hanging out with us he would always play dota. He didn't forget us and paid a visit after their first TI. Real team player
I just recently started back into dota this time as the one to teach others the ropes in a hope that I can mimic the person that taught me. Getting back into it I realized it was TI time and placed my predictions and none of the teams I knew were still around. Ive seen Alliance and Navi fall but usually was there to find someone else to root for. This time I look at predictions and just hopefully locked in TSpirit and LGD finals w spirit winning as I had remembered watching their lower bracket run previously and thinking f it lets root for them to win again. I dont mean to get emotional and obviously Im not part of that team but being able to watch them (who apparently have remained a good team and a favorite to win TI, something that the top teams rarely used to be able to do) watching the opposite of their run made me remember why I loved this game so much. Why I sunk in thousands of hours never with the false dream of going pro but that was fine, this game has been and I think always will be a big part of my life. Not sure how to sign this off but ig if you read this go ahead and flame me for being sappy ik I would if i saw this. I appreciate those that read it anyway.
Mira is currently my favorite DOTA player, but it's completely understandable that everyone tends to cheer for the carry/core players! After all, in (e-)sports, just like in soccer, people often admire the goal scorers more than those who set up the plays or prevent the opposing team from scoring.
Ps: Nice video as always zzADRiANzz
well it's kinda of a double-edged sword to be a core player. Look at Lou, m1cke, or Shiro; their respective teams got 3rd and 4th. And most of the responses blame them for carrying enough.
but if you noticed in TI7,8, and 9, many people praised GH and Jerax so much, such flashy plays made by them frequently became a game-changer. Pos 4 was much more impactful back then.
Mira, on the other hand, simply does not need to do that. All that he has to do is to enable Collapse to have a good lane and let him and Yatoro do the work in teamfights, which Mira ultimately always almost succeeded.
I mean you can see how many clutch save he did, especially on LGD vs Spirit game 1.
Finally! A video about Mira
Without disrespect to Yatoro, but I think Mira and Miposhka are TS's success key in this TI. They're playing Jerax-fy godlike level and very few people noticed that.
Watched the ti10 truesight I felt like Mira is seriously good at chilling, and he is also really good at making 2nd setup attempt in case one of his teammate missed a stun/pull back/catch
Good players don't overlook Mira, there always a good support behind a good carry.
exactly, good players or support mains don't overlook these players, during their finals he even played outside rosh to spot the smoke
Really good video. Would love to see more playstyle analysis
What an interesting perspective. Thanks!
Amazing toughts! Thanks!
Видео получилось шикарным. спасибо что рассказал о плейстайле Миры и что он делает для команды. надеюсь это видео увидят много людей!
к сожалению, многие или не хотят замечать что каждый человек в команде делает определенную работу без которой не получилось бы достичь высоких результатов. они могут играть не так как другие люди на своих позициях и их за это хейтят. люди оценивают команду и берут отдельно каждого игрока, а это не правильно. Мира может и не сильнейший игрок на четвертой позиции в мире, но для этой команды он идеально подходит. и так можно сказать про каждого. Спасибо еще раз за видео! надеюсь сделаешь такие же видео и про остальных игроков Team Spirit!
Thank you so much for this video. Recently, I was just thinking that Mira is underestimated. Mira has always been the best player for me, as has everyone from Team Spirit. I'm glad that you paid attention to Mira and shot this video. And I agree with the guys in the comments that good players see the impact of each player in Team Spirit, rather than ordinary people. 🔥
Even when interviewd he said they still need to win 2 TI's so that Larl gets 3 TI wins, he's a sweetheart
Mira is just like JerAx of OG. Genius map reading, anticipation. And in every team fights they know what skills to throw, where to throw and which hero to disable/isolate first.
That's what I see the similarities between Mira and JerAx.
He actually played chess so he’s really good with strategic thinking
Overall I’m a big Team spirit fan, they are amazing in game and just seem like a nice guys in real life (judging on their vlogs and social media)
Wishing them even more wins and success 🤍
Great and detailed video btw
And cool voice!
Keep going 👍
He was always the best for me. You dont notice his presence but he sets up his team for great team fights. Kinda like kuroku in kuroku no basket. You cant feel his game but hes fookin everywhere
lol, the first time i read kuroku. i thought you meant kuroky and i was like wtff dude. Kuroky hasnt performed in ages
@@GameRanger46 kuroky no basket
Finally, Some one made a video about. Every one talking about Yotaro and collapse.
Mira and Miposhka doing a massive impact on the team.
Great video. Mira is a beast
I dnt know why but everytime they clash my eyes always glued on mira. His clutches are on point 95% esp his shadow demon and tusk saves of yatoro it was godly
After they steamrolled LGD in the semi-finals i already knew that the team is gonna get 3-0 in the GF. Their movement, how they feel their peaks of power, how they feel each other in team fights. They are just on another level.
are you champaignpapiglo from graal?
Love ur videos bro, from Malaysia ❤
Thank you!
Thanks for the VID! can you explain how tusk ice shard works?
if you watch lots of spirit teamfights you'll realize just how much better they are than anyone else at baiting people into bad positions, glad mira is getting this recognition. i do think all 5 of them are wre great at it, though
Great content
I like people looking at those overlooked people
Also Mira can sing really well. Dont forget that.
Thank you for the video
was interesting to watch
Mira is one of the best space creating pos 4 out there, he can play aggressive passive when needed
You know why Yatoro is great? Because Mira sets up the fight for Collapse so much that early fights are happening at their offlane. Giving Yatoro too much free space. Mira was key in their success. He made Collapse the biggest threat on the map.
man u good at explanation, good brain you have
As a manager of TS said, Mira never gives up and always gives incredible ideas how to comeback into the game.
Dude plays pos 5 on the pos 4. Ever since team spirit won their first title, playing a greedy pos 4 didnt make sense. Your pos 3 is basically a carry nowadays, they need a baby sitting sup. Pos 4 no longer has the luxury to farm daggers wait for perfect initiation etc. Yapzor also agrees with this clearly in his streams. He no longer finds joy in playing pos 4 since you're basically expected to sacrifice your game for other players. Unlike his prime days. Ask Yap, he will probably say that he would enjoy pos 3 more than anything else. That pretty much sums up the topic I believe.
Mira is king. The fact that Yatoro sometimes foregoes BKB because he knows he can blindly trust his bois says it all. What a G
and when you threw everything to Mira and manage to successfully kill him, he is quick to buy back and join the fight once again.
Hello! I am enjoying your content. Very nice videos! I have been watching Yatoro's stream recently, and in a game where he was playing as a Naga Siren, he said "they can't kill MK (enemy) without me, they don't know how to kite." And that got me wondering, how to properly kite a fight. I mean, I understand that kite is when you are engaging in a fight, but you don't fully commit. Like you throw a spell or two, wait for CD, then throw spells again, to wait for the perfect opportunity to fly in and kill them. But the problem is that this style of kite, enemies can easily run by also using one or two spells, and fight is over. So, the question I have is: How to kite a fight properly?
kiting properly is playing safe and defensive until the reason you are kiting is no longer there
if you are pa vs a void and you know void just waits for you to jump in and then he chronos you, then you kite until the threat of chrono is gone, staying in the safezone trying to bait your enemy to waste their spells or over extend and then you capitalize
it basically comes down to whoever is better at recognizing when to kite and how well they execute that kite
bsj just talked about this in greater detail in one of his last videos
Kiting is like annoying your enemies with cheap shots and control skills while running and looking for a chance for a good engagement to fight for your team
Can you do a cover for VP Save? I think Mira said in his stream that Save is the best support
everyone on Spirit is a absolut beast and top tier at their position. miposhka is easy the best pos5 too
Mira is goated and he needs more recognition
В видеоблоге Спирит говорили, что именно мира решает, когда использовать смок, стратегии продумывает
1:19 I see what you did there
Not me sir, as a dedicated pos 4, I literally watch him all the time.
all heroes don't wear capes
This is true he play alot of pos 4 hero as pos 5 style
It's easy to overlook mira on that team because universally even amongst pros collapse and yatoro is currently looked at being the best players, while mira is a good player he is not overshadowing the other supports out there in the world with new innovative ways, or mind blowing spell use.
Became my favorite player after watching a match with him using Treant. Literally, WTF moment.
Isnt this how ppl used to play pos 4 ? Creating space
He's my idol and the reason why my ign is "Mira" too. You can see me featured in dotacinema "when everyone has a windwaker" clip.
bro now I wanna see a review on Miposhka's playstyle lmao
That might actually be a good idea 🤔
Collapse’s champion sticker signature reads “COLPAXE”, a combination of “Kolpakov” (Mira’s real last name) and Axe
Maybe it's because pos 5 is more safe to access twin gate?
yatoro "the slayer"
larl "the controller"
collapse "the playmaker"
mira "the joker"
miposhka "the mastermind"
they're just good at capitalizing their vision. they clearly said it in their vlog.. totally a monsters, they can 3pt
Mira looks like Crispin Hellion Glover from Charlie angel
The lion and willow boy
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true
I recently reach 3950 mmr a bit more than ancient 1 with 8000 games, i feel shame that i am so low with so many games. i try understand what i lack to go divine. I love support cause i feel i help people.
Personally I don't overlook him. I consider him among the best sups of all-time...
I play 4s and 5's.
When the game goes smoothly - that's because cores done right.
When we lose the game - that's always my fault.
I feel the pain bro, same here
All game not only dota community is giving the attention to the core player. I found most of the dota youtube video is taking core video as content, especially miracle video always get more viewers
it aint miracle show for nothing
@@lethargic. Miracle fangay
Mira and miposhka are great.
people only recognize pos 4 players who plays really good at ES, rubick kinda heroes
No one is overlooking Mira, every one who understands dota knows he is so freaking goood
I always thought mira was pos5 seeing how he ans miposhka play the game
Mira is good but not the playmaker in Spirit. If you wanna beat Spirit, make sure Miposhka and Collapse can't play their heroes. These two are their playmakers. Seen it in TI where they fight against VP in game 1. VP able to defeat them (Game 1) because they were able to disable these two ( Miposhka and Collapse). Doesn't matter if Yatoro able to play his carry heroes as long as these two was disabled. Unfortunately VP not able to maintain this advantage and lead them to get defeated by Spirit. Sure everyone will not agree but if you pay attention on how spirit play, you can see Miposhka abd Collapse are the one that plays exceptionally well. They are like the heart and brain of the team. Yatoro is good but nothing stands out, its just a carry who plays with a lot of hero pool. Mira is great as a support. And other new guy too is good.
Support players are always overlooked..
I always say that Jerax is the best Pos4 in dota but this guy can make the case.
You forgot to mention that Collapse is the reason why Mira is able to leave 3 pos alone and do stacks/whatever
HOTDOG
Miposhka is the real carry!
Míra je nejlepší!
it's the team spirit that wins the game
i believe that all supports are overlooked, when you talk about supports who made it specially to become 2 time TI champions, like Mira, Miboshka, notail and Jerax, even one time TI champion like GH, you realize that its overlooked big time and its truly as important as the pos 1 and pos 3!
Not really, fy and Jerax are always getting praised, even cr1t, with his own pos 4 guide wayback. Because they play flashy unlike Mira.
for me support is the one who carry the pos 1. Supports need to create space and help their Pos 1 to build his item fast. without best support your carry is useless. all player can farm and can be a core. but not all player can be a good support.
1 of the main ⚙️ .. I do believe greatest support was born from core player 😅 since you do need some knowledge and understanding how and what every specific hero rotation and gameplay .. which window fit em to have good fight 😅
From what I know, Team Spirit was absolutely getting dogged by VP in everything up until Mira joined the team and the one who recruited him was his former teammate in Cascade, Collapse.
He’s so so good, hopefully the imposter syndrome is gone
Collapse would not work without Mira
mira is good looking he looks like helenalive
If Mira is not that Good. Team spirit will Crumble
The problem with support, esp pos 4, is that a lot of impact is hard to see for the layman. Such as stacking, baiting, disrupting enemy initiate, CCing in fights, protecting runes etc.
i feel you should definitely back up your claims more, show instances in games where they were true etc.
Ниче не понял, мира красавчик в итоге или нет ?
Mira is me but I fail to make stacks and I don't survive after baiting.(i am 2k)
master baiter mira
They are the best d0ta team
Correct me if I'm wrong, pos4 is not a suitable role for roaming. Leaving pos3 alone in lane, puts pos3 behind and gives enemy carry a free chance to farm. Most of the time roaming doesn't compensate the loss in the lane. In my opinion the perception that pos4 is the roamer role is a longstanding misconception from the past.
pos4 isn't roamer but he always has an option to help pos2 win mid with gank, while pos3 gain rather exp than gold in those 2-3 minutes. but in nowadays meta it's just not profitable.
all the things you said are BASE for every support. There is nothing unique in TS players, they just perfectly playing default
no one is overlooking him, it's the same thing in football, striker vs goalkeeper..more attention to the carry or striker, it's only natural
Mira and collapse are the best player in spirit. yatori heavily relies on his supports and collapse plays. Larl is very consistent. yatoro so good at clash he improved on his choke plays last TI
Overlook??? U mean underlook??
u sound like balatek
Kuroko no Dota