PayPal Is Dying. Good Riddance.

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  • Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024

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  • @youbetyourwrasse
    @youbetyourwrasse 5 месяцев назад +317

    I loved how when I went to close my Paypal account I was warned: IF YOU CLOSE THIS ACCOUNT, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO OPEN A NEW ONE. Dang. Passive aggresive much? Who penalizes a customer for leaving by telling them "don't ever come back." You WANT customers to MISS YOU and COME BACK. If you are NOT A PETTY TYRANT. That made the decision to cancel SO MUCH EASIER. And No Surprise that they are Fading.

    • @theMPrints
      @theMPrints 5 месяцев назад

      Im afraid they will get a nice financial injection from taxpayer money to stay around and fcuk us for eternity....

    • @mugnuz
      @mugnuz 5 месяцев назад +8

      kinda sounds like tesla...

    • @youbetyourwrasse
      @youbetyourwrasse 5 месяцев назад

      @@mugnuz Mr Musk is a disappointment. He should focus on building better cars, and forget going to Mars and implanting Brain Devices. The poor can't afford either, and the rich just want privacy and to be free of impostitions. No one [but niche] wants email alerts going off in their noggins. It appears Musk must live every Phantasy he's had since age 5. HYPERLOOP? C'mon! A SHAME to waste an Empire like that, in my humble estimation.

    • @ChrisKhaled83
      @ChrisKhaled83 4 месяца назад

      I hope PayPal goes soon.
      Its nothing more than an authoritarian crap fest now.

    • @sethaie
      @sethaie 4 месяца назад +5

      Funny. I have 3 PayPal accounts (because you can’t change country in PP).

  • @TAKEASHORTBREAK1
    @TAKEASHORTBREAK1 5 месяцев назад +464

    They ban accounts for no reason at all. They just want to keep the money.

    • @chiquita683
      @chiquita683 5 месяцев назад +68

      Its actually worse, they ban accounts for political beliefs.

    • @StateAlchemist7
      @StateAlchemist7 5 месяцев назад +34

      Who keeps money on PayPal? I withdraw the instant it hits my account.

    • @Pistolita221
      @Pistolita221 5 месяцев назад +13

      We should start a class-action to scrape the last few dimes out of this rotting husk of this PSP.

    • @admiralkaede
      @admiralkaede 5 месяцев назад +1

      i do but yea maybe i should move it to chime@@StateAlchemist7

    • @roar
      @roar 5 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@StateAlchemist7 Maybe in the moments between withdrawal?

  • @JohnHamlin-rh3ee
    @JohnHamlin-rh3ee 5 месяцев назад +271

    The fact they can lock your account for any reason and given time is what makes stray away from them. I’ve heard too many stories of people losing 100-1000 over a transaction they deem “suspicious”.

    • @eyevou
      @eyevou 5 месяцев назад +33

      My friend had several thousand dollars locked up in an account and had to hire a lawyer. Paypal act like thieves when it benefits them.

    • @dannydaw59
      @dannydaw59 5 месяцев назад +12

      There should be federal laws that make payment processors tell the user why the account is locked & limit the criteria for locking or banning the accounts.

  • @debasishraychawdhuri
    @debasishraychawdhuri 5 месяцев назад +199

    They have to right to deny service, but no right just take their money on a whim. That's stealing.

    • @C1rnobyl
      @C1rnobyl 5 месяцев назад +4

      They shouldn't have a right to deny service though. They're basically a monopoly in many ways. Thanks to the PATRIOT Act and many other laws that came after, nobody can really compete unless they are already huge due to crushing regulatory compliance costs.
      Less government = more competition in this field.

    • @DovidM
      @DovidM 5 месяцев назад +5

      There is no appeals system, so your only option is to take them to court where, through discovery, you might or might not find evidence that they defrauded you just because they could.

    • @ConnorFuhrman
      @ConnorFuhrman 4 месяца назад +2

      they held almost 2k from me for almost a year i spent 20+ hours trying to get the money back they are rodents

  • @JasperDev
    @JasperDev 5 месяцев назад +318

    Paypal banned the account of one of my editors, he later recovered his account 6 months later, the reason of the ban was because he had the same name of a completely different person who was also banned ☠

    • @hir0maxa
      @hir0maxa 5 месяцев назад +3

      Hey Jasper! Did you recover your Google afiliate account? I remember your account was banned by Google mistakenly and I didn't knew what happened after that :(

  • @thebosscrystal
    @thebosscrystal 5 месяцев назад +165

    “We can take 2500$ for any reason we want” literally

    • @vineetahlawat1850
      @vineetahlawat1850 5 месяцев назад

      how??

    • @justinr9753
      @justinr9753 4 месяца назад

      ​@@vineetahlawat1850 they are big fans of the blues and you have to pay $2500 if you're not.

  • @Fourtune1
    @Fourtune1 5 месяцев назад +240

    Never use PayPal as a payment provider. Anytime you have a sale over $200 they lock your account and constantly want “verification”. You send all the business info and they say everything is good and they’ll release the money in 1-2 months. Then rinse and repeat.

    • @RichardBaran
      @RichardBaran 5 месяцев назад +12

      Yep. Happened to me

    • @kennyadvocat
      @kennyadvocat 5 месяцев назад

      yup i know someone that had a product go viral years ago. Had 20k in sales stuck in paypal but still had to pay his supplier to ship everything to customers. Temu and tiktok shop have taken over that whole dropship market. Even many ebay sellers have cut paypal out.

    • @zcnaipowered7407
      @zcnaipowered7407 5 месяцев назад

      I do thousand dollar payments with Payments with PayPal never faced any issues. Try using it in conjunction with a digital brokeridge company that tends ro sort out such issues pretty quickly.

    • @reginayfavors
      @reginayfavors 5 месяцев назад +2

      Thank you for letting me know. I didn't know that.

    • @MadsterV
      @MadsterV 5 месяцев назад +6

      it's their M.O, they pocket interest.

  • @hubert3048
    @hubert3048 5 месяцев назад +705

    Saying "most of big tech recovered" and showing nVidia stock price is misleading at best

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  5 месяцев назад +65

      All of FAANG and big tech has recovered as well :)

    • @motichel
      @motichel 5 месяцев назад +139

      @@LogicallyAnsweredthat still doesn’t dispute it being misleading… NVIDIA has seen multiple standard deviations more growth then each company in fang combined….

    • @huyster6490
      @huyster6490 5 месяцев назад +55

      @@LogicallyAnswered lmao did you just compare FinTech with FAANG 😂how about comparing it with similar stocks from the same field like Block or Ayden

    • @shawnrosspeters
      @shawnrosspeters 5 месяцев назад +26

      Alright, let's settle down. This was still a great video, so no need to nitpick...

    • @andrewkoster6506
      @andrewkoster6506 5 месяцев назад

      @@huyster6490 No one has ever heard of those companies. If we're talking about stock prices and profits and such, PayPal should be compared to other companies that are also big enough that someone has heard of them (FAANG, Nvidia, etc.).

  • @Dexter01992
    @Dexter01992 5 месяцев назад +67

    $2500 for each infraction is just criminal. There's penal damage paybacks for criminals that do not reach such amounts, yet Paypal can randomly decide you owe them tens of thousands of dollars just out of what you say on a completely different site. It should be considered an illegal extortion under any possible level.

    • @Cwynlaen
      @Cwynlaen 5 месяцев назад

      There should be a law against that… like the sixth amendment - right to a fair trial and lawyer. …if PayPal is subject to US law.

  • @venom5809
    @venom5809 5 месяцев назад +57

    PayPal treated customers awful and now they are paying the price. I stopped using eBay and PayPal years ago because they enabled and sided with crooked buyers and did nothing for sellers even if you had amazing ratings and sales for years. How has there not been a class action lawsuit over this?

    • @adaml.5355
      @adaml.5355 5 месяцев назад +6

      eBay no longer uses PayPal.

    • @LicenciadoLoui
      @LicenciadoLoui 4 месяца назад

      ​@@adaml.5355What do you mean? They still have the option to pay with Paypal.

  • @antoinepageau8336
    @antoinepageau8336 5 месяцев назад +1350

    Ok PayPal sucks, I don’t agree with your click bate photo of Elon. He has nothing to do with PayPal for 20 years now.

    • @williamobraidislee3433
      @williamobraidislee3433 5 месяцев назад

      Yeah and in fact none of the people who invented any of these ideas do except for Zuckerberg

    • @Pivot35
      @Pivot35 5 месяцев назад +336

      He’s just saying Paypal is starting to suck almost as much as Elon does.

    • @1bridge11
      @1bridge11 5 месяцев назад +124

      bait, not bate

    • @User24x
      @User24x 5 месяцев назад

      @@Pivot35 Tracks

    • @alvydasjokubauskas2587
      @alvydasjokubauskas2587 5 месяцев назад

      Because of Elon milions of people will die from cancer, due to solar radation on mars... How you cannot blame him... Even he did not land on mars yet...

  • @n.g.l.
    @n.g.l. 5 месяцев назад +485

    1) As a consumer you have to jump through hoops to get a refund
    2) As a business owner you need to jump boulders to settle a dispute
    3) PayPal said that they’d fine you for not being “politically correct”. That was my last straw.

    • @n.g.l.
      @n.g.l. 5 месяцев назад

      @@factorysec everyone would at some point. There’s no limit to madness.

    • @andrewkoster6506
      @andrewkoster6506 5 месяцев назад

      @@factorysec The craziest part of it is that PayPal has no clear ideological direction beyond capitalism, so it's anyone's guess what they would even consider "controversial".

    • @fredbloggs8072
      @fredbloggs8072 5 месяцев назад +37

      Terrible company. I only had an account with them because I needed one for Ebay. As soon as that was no longer necessary I stopped using them, and when they started punishing customers who expressed an opinion they didn't like I closed the account down completely. I hope they go bust.

    • @andrewkoster6506
      @andrewkoster6506 5 месяцев назад

      @@fredbloggs8072 They've been a terrible company since they were founded. "paypalsucks" is one of the oldest anti-corporation sites that I can remember.

    • @AveMcree
      @AveMcree 5 месяцев назад

      1) Lie! Plenty of consumers game the system daily getting refunds for products they own (and don't return). They gave people up to 180 days to get refunds!!! That's insane compared to ANY brick and mortar BUSINESS!
      2) Not true either.. I've had zero issues with PayPal on handling disputes. I was one of the many people who got them to stop allowing anyone to file a complaint w/o proper proof.
      3) I'm guessing you got out of pocket with PayPal which explains your outcomes
      If you think PayPal is trash.. Try that with Cashapp, Venmo, Zelle, etc... lol it won't get any better

  • @factorysec
    @factorysec 5 месяцев назад +56

    I'm still salty from when I got scammed and PayPal didn't help me at all over 10 years ago.

    • @llary
      @llary 5 месяцев назад +4

      Basically the only way to win the PayPal claim game as either buyer or seller is to be an outright scammer. Legitimate sellers get burned by scam buyers, legitimate buyers get burned by scam sellers. Scammers know how the automated system works and abuse them to their advantage.

    • @michaelstark5763
      @michaelstark5763 5 месяцев назад +1

      U got scammed because of not used common sense neither didn't u read the PP user agreement hence don't blame others or don't expect others will pay for your error

    • @gerdz101
      @gerdz101 5 месяцев назад

      @@michaelstark5763 That's the point of having a paypal account. Having a soft pad to land on incase you get scammed. If Paypal can't back you up then what's the point of having a paypal account? And that's one of the many reason why people are leaving paypal.

  • @bendono
    @bendono 5 месяцев назад +49

    I used PayPal for 20+ years. Until they banned me last year insisting that my account name be changed to my baby name. (Similar examples: Alexander rather than Alex, Benjamin rather than Ben, Joseph rather than Joe, Matthew rather than Matt etc.) I spent over a month in calls with their management. They said without a court order I do not exist and my 20+ year old account could not be used. Sorry PayPal, you no longer exist for me.

    • @happyzahn8031
      @happyzahn8031 3 месяца назад +2

      Wow, that is really sad. I've had my account that long but I only buy stuff with it, and that infrequently, as it is not available in that many places. Now I know why. I will do the same if they ever come at me like that.

  • @MichelePonte
    @MichelePonte 5 месяцев назад +65

    PayPal fees and conversion rates should make anyone scream!

    • @richardbauer8154
      @richardbauer8154 5 месяцев назад

      No more conversion rates with their USD-Stablecoin!

    • @admiralkaede
      @admiralkaede 5 месяцев назад +4

      the fees can be high but its only 1.7% so its not scream level

    • @bluedreamchicago9319
      @bluedreamchicago9319 5 месяцев назад +1

      they have godly fees. 3% credit to cash 💸 dont tell anyone !

  • @dom5
    @dom5 5 месяцев назад +33

    PayPal let a customer dispute multiple transactions totaling $1000. Completely screwed me and my business over

    • @flyingturret208thecannon5
      @flyingturret208thecannon5 4 месяца назад

      That’s because it was their “protected” bullshit - they attempted to take $1800 from me when they forced me to link my bank account(and the same day the account link, it was shockingly compromised) and before the money even sent I said “no, stop this. I didn’t authorize this.” And they did nothing. Now they’re wanting to send it to a debt collector to try and collect on it.
      PayPal can suffer the cost of poor practice in Capitalism.

  • @Cotictimmy
    @Cotictimmy 5 месяцев назад +15

    Yes - I stopped using PayPal and I emptied out my PayPal account when they shut down the account of the Free Speech Union here in the UK. I did not want to pay any money to an authoritarian organisation that wanted to enforce censorship of political free speech in a democracy. My next immediate action was to sign up to The Free Speech Union myself.

  • @marvinochieng6295
    @marvinochieng6295 5 месяцев назад +30

    I honestly hate paypal like hell but the problem is in Kenya, freelanceers who work with americans or europeans have no other way of getting paid so this is like an abusive relationship where i cant just walk away

    • @munchcup
      @munchcup 5 месяцев назад +1

      Yap that's the case

    • @Kauros00
      @Kauros00 5 месяцев назад +6

      Same, I'm European and I've had clients all over the world. Everybody always asks for and prefers Paypal payments, so I have no other options.

    • @hanfucolorful9656
      @hanfucolorful9656 5 месяцев назад

      In China, everybody can pay everybody by Wechat,but the US hates China, you know why by now. But eventually the new system will be established globally by China.

  • @danielvasquez3758
    @danielvasquez3758 5 месяцев назад +131

    Lol just got an ad for PayPal for this video!! Got to love the irony!!

    • @Felale
      @Felale 5 месяцев назад +7

      Really easy to target ads on videos that include their product.

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  5 месяцев назад +19

      Hahaha, not surprised

    • @RichardBaran
      @RichardBaran 5 месяцев назад +1

      That's awesome

    • @shadowninja6689
      @shadowninja6689 5 месяцев назад +7

      That's the problem with targeting ads based on keywords without context. Anti-crypto subs I go to often have threads laughing at pro-Crypto ads people see on the sub, and how the advertising is just wasting money advertising to the one group of people who hate their products so much that they're a part of a community dedicating to hating their whole business sector.

    • @ramelchilds7416
      @ramelchilds7416 5 месяцев назад +1

      At least Ari is getting paid for it but not through PayPal 😂

  • @ShikiByakko
    @ShikiByakko 5 месяцев назад +36

    This info is mostly US only.
    One of the things that make PayPal so big, is that they are a GLOBAL payment processor.
    If you are not in the US, Zelle is not an option.
    Their more direct competitors in this regard will be something like Revolut or Wise.

    • @thewhitefalcon8539
      @thewhitefalcon8539 5 месяцев назад +4

      If you are in any other western country you use your credit card. If you are in Europe you can also use SEPA. If you are in Aus/NZ they have their own transfer system. I don't know about the UK.

    • @fhunter1test
      @fhunter1test 4 месяца назад

      @@thewhitefalcon8539 And that was the beauty of paypal. It just damn worked for ANY location. One account. Any country. At least from customer perspective. Considering that some people do not have or want credit cards and disputing ANY transaction on debit is 'interesting' at best - well - the choice was obvious.
      PS. Sorry, card payment systems are even worse.
      PPS. I am now living in a country different from my original citizenship and my bank account is 'non-resident' - I just CAN NOT do direct bank transfers. Can pay by card though.

    • @lzh4950
      @lzh4950 4 месяца назад

      @@thewhitefalcon8539 For Singapore the gov't has created PayNow, where you can perform a bank transfer directly into a merchant's bank account without them having to give you their account number. Instead you just have to scan a special QR code provided by them, key in a mobile phone number linked to the account or the company's registration no.

    • @Nogardtist
      @Nogardtist 4 месяца назад

      heard revolut is just as shady or even worse

  • @VazerOG
    @VazerOG 5 месяцев назад +9

    PayPal is the absolute worst. I was stupid enough to get their credit card, and that was a huge mistake. Their autopay system is broken and it causes my credit to get messed up. Had to get a lawyer involved to get it fixed.

  • @CosmicPlayR
    @CosmicPlayR 5 месяцев назад +85

    I'd drop PayPal in a heartbeat if I could have an alternative, international payment middle-man like Skrill being supported on Patreon. The only reason I keep PayPal is just so I don't have to directly link my bank card to Patreon.
    I imagine others have similar reasons for maintaining a PayPal account and would quickly pull out if a equal (or better) alternative presented itself.

    • @heperfectirl9470
      @heperfectirl9470 5 месяцев назад +12

      Exactly! I'm so ready to jump ship when a better alternative comes. Why such a thing doesn't exist yet I have no idea.

    • @Zenala
      @Zenala 5 месяцев назад +15

      Yeah! I'd drop that god forsaken app anytime if possible but there's simply no good alternatives that are used by a lot of people and (almost) fully international as PayPal is - most of my transactions come from people that wouldn't be able to pay directly to my bank due to me being a Brazilian and my clients being based all around the globe. I'm actually scared of PayPal dying solely because that would make my life much harder. I hope another (better) company picks this spot up before it does.

    • @_MaZTeR_
      @_MaZTeR_ 5 месяцев назад +9

      Yep same. Use PayPal in a lot services because it's the middle man in transactions. I don't trust my credit card information with every possible website on Earth even if the third party seller within the site is legit.
      I'd switch over to something else in a heartbeat if there was anything as convenient and available in Europe as PayPal.

    • @admiralkaede
      @admiralkaede 5 месяцев назад +9

      yea nd i have so many of my payments routed through paytpal as they do offer more protections from data leaks then entering your bank info directly

    • @alhamsn1
      @alhamsn1 5 месяцев назад

      Don't listen to this clown, go actually check for yourself on how factual his information is. For example the negative reviews from consumer affairs & trustpilot, both of those companies are scam companies. Look up any company on their sites and you will see that what this clown is claiming is 100% false. This guy is creating false information for views.

  • @LoboPal
    @LoboPal 5 месяцев назад +8

    Over a decade ago they stole my $2.99, so I refuse to ever use them lol

  • @Duke6598
    @Duke6598 5 месяцев назад +34

    Paypal is going nowhere. It's sitting at almost 70b market cap and the stock price is stable.

    • @SavvygeMediaGroup
      @SavvygeMediaGroup 5 месяцев назад +7

      Yeah I use it a lot as a consumer and it’s nice

  • @TheCloudhopper
    @TheCloudhopper 5 месяцев назад +31

    I know many artists that do a variety of work, some of that includes what could be considered "adult art". Like commissioned drawings. Most of them have been banned by PayPal in the past 24 months. That includes people that have been told they do "inappropriat content" yet they never did.

    • @lovelysakurapetalsyt
      @lovelysakurapetalsyt 5 месяцев назад +7

      Yeah, in their own terms, I think it bans any undergarments of any sort, and likely that also applies to swimsuits or anything that looks similar, or even workout gear. It's stupid
      They also are banning sites from using them if they allow such art

    • @AdrienMelody
      @AdrienMelody 5 месяцев назад +2

      I was looking for this comment ✊🏻

    • @Nogardtist
      @Nogardtist 4 месяца назад +1

      thats what i also heard
      several people over years period reach out to me to draw them art
      i declined all of them cause i had no payment plan
      and every artist on the planet is stuck to use paypal as their primary source of revenue exchange for working

  • @travisfabel8040
    @travisfabel8040 5 месяцев назад +58

    That last bit about zelle is very disingenuous. Remember as the consumer using PayPal as long as you use a credit card as your funding source, you still have full consumer protection via your credit card.
    Using zelle it is a bank to bank transfer with full access to both bank accounts and no accountability. There's nobody to call. The bank will tell you to talk to zelle or the other bank. And the other bank will tell you the same thing. And zelle doesn't do anything.
    It's literally the worst case scenario. At least with PayPal you have a method of using it in a way that you're limiting your liability. You get none of that with zelle. Even if you only sign up once.

    • @hanfucolorful9656
      @hanfucolorful9656 5 месяцев назад +2

      I lost over $1500 because two bank kick the ball, and there is nothing you can do, the money just gone.

    • @lzh4950
      @lzh4950 4 месяца назад

      At least in my country I think the banks can be absolved of responsibility from customer scams if the customer is deemed to have lacked security measures. However there was a scam where scammers impersonated themselves as banks to send SMSes (so when victims receive them, it'll not show them as being sent by a phone no. unfamiliar to them, but show the bank's name instead, just like genuine SMSes from the banks, & apparently SMS technology can't stop scammers from reprogramming the system to choose whoever they want the SMS to appear to have been sent from). The SMSes asked victims to enter a phishing website to enter bank account information, then when some victims called the bank soon after that, upon realising that they've been scammed, it took a few days for the bank to react, which was enough time for scammers to empty out the victims' bank accounts e.g. by maxing out their daily withdrawal limit (~S$300000). This slow response by the bank probably made it harder to absolve itself of responsibility from the scam.
      On a side note my country's banks have now programmed their smartphone apps to auto-disable if sideloaded apps are detected on your smartphone, supposedly because such apps are more likely to contain malware for scammers to use. CitiBank's app goes further & also demands Developer Options to be disabled before it can be used. This poses a headache for people who visit mainland China more often, where the only way to download Android apps is via sideloading (typically from the app developer's own website), since Google Play is blocked there. Additionally you can now also voluntarily lock/freeze part of your own bank account's funds to protect it from scammers

    • @jackabsolute5525
      @jackabsolute5525 3 месяца назад

      Yes this is the way. I like the extra layer of security that PP + a CC provides. I only use zelle if I know the merchant personally or the merchant is right in front of me. All other online transactions can go to paypal or my cc at the very least. It has saved me a couple of times from fraud already.

  • @balpreetsingh6834
    @balpreetsingh6834 5 месяцев назад +44

    Great video as always. Also for the India reference, I think you wanted to say UPI, which is a payment interface connecting users through their bank accounts, while RuPay is a payment gateway like Visa or Mastercard.

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  5 месяцев назад +8

      Oh oops, my bad. Thanks for the clarification Balpreet

    • @eyevou
      @eyevou 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@LogicallyAnswered pin the correction?

  • @DrKnowsMore
    @DrKnowsMore 5 месяцев назад +25

    It's a simple. PayPal put out a policy saying that they would start freezing the accounts or even removing money from accounts of people who had opinions that they disagreed with. I canceled my account within days of that announcement. Then they tried to resend their idiocy, but it was too late. Good riddance.

    • @thewhitefalcon8539
      @thewhitefalcon8539 5 месяцев назад

      You forgot to mention the opinions were neonazi ones

    • @Nick-ue7iw
      @Nick-ue7iw 5 месяцев назад

      That's when I got rid of mine. Good riddance.

    • @UglyFaceOnAStick-iz8bt
      @UglyFaceOnAStick-iz8bt 5 месяцев назад

      Me too. Take your misinformation buzzword and shove it. We all know what that was about.

  • @MarcDunivan
    @MarcDunivan 5 месяцев назад +7

    Just ban accounts? They also put in the terms of service that they can "fine" PayPal account holders for "Free Speech" actions...and PayPal will pull the money out of the holder's account!

  • @2beJT
    @2beJT 5 месяцев назад +12

    ALWAYS record your opening of packages/returns to have evidence to fight fraud.

    • @blackrevenue8421
      @blackrevenue8421 5 месяцев назад

      That' makes sense, however it's highly inconveniencing...but it's a solution atleast

  • @olayinka-ajibsjoshua5776
    @olayinka-ajibsjoshua5776 5 месяцев назад +50

    Music To my ears

  • @geoffk777
    @geoffk777 5 месяцев назад +4

    In my country, there's a highly confidential government-issued number whic is basically only used by the Government and Employers (and then only wit very high security and confidentility). My Bank and credit card companies have not asked for this number. But PayPal insisted that I provide it or they would shut down my account. They refused to tell me if this was a Government requirement or just a company policy and why they needed ot and my Bank did not. In the end, I decided that they simply did not care about customer privacy and shut down my account.

  • @albertobarbosa5960
    @albertobarbosa5960 5 месяцев назад +5

    I figured that he would mention something about twitch streamers being given money through PayPal and then the sender creates a charge back, which causes the streamer to pay $15 fee for the charge back even though the "donation" was as little as $1.

  • @rodh1404
    @rodh1404 5 месяцев назад +4

    I've often said that PayPal is great for the buyer but terrible for the seller. But if enough sellers decide they don't want to deal with PayPal anymore and use alternatives instead, then PayPal will become irrelevant to everyone.

  • @CappyLarou
    @CappyLarou 5 месяцев назад +17

    You should do a video on the fall of customer service. Companies no longer want to help, they give you a chat option or a website portal to submit a form, they don't want to talk to you anymore. I may be old school and want to talk to people when I have a problem, so I always look for a phone number and most companies don't advertise one anymore. Customer service is dying and no one cares

    • @danielcasey7385
      @danielcasey7385 5 месяцев назад +4

      Because paying a human is expensive.

    • @lovelysakurapetalsyt
      @lovelysakurapetalsyt 5 месяцев назад +5

      It's because they don't wanna pay people, but they'll put out scammy ads to get info for their own purposes. It's disgusting

  • @beach2787
    @beach2787 5 месяцев назад +13

    Also paypal was about to implement a fine for account inactivity.

    • @mabialaemile8541
      @mabialaemile8541 5 месяцев назад +3

      i received the mail,
      then i deleted my account

    • @KoolMeester2
      @KoolMeester2 5 месяцев назад

      What if you dont have a bank account tied to it?

    • @beach2787
      @beach2787 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@KoolMeester2 then your credit card or paypal balance would have ended up bleading

  • @chrimony
    @chrimony 5 месяцев назад +12

    As much as it pains me to be the Devil's Advocate for PayPal:
    - Relatively stable net income of $4B per year
    - Their true IPO dates back to 2002, and it was around $13
    - The complaints shown here by users have been there throughout their history.
    - Payment processors and banks can and do shutdown accounts via their own discretion.
    Financial institutions really should be required to act as common carriers (your phone company can't cancel you over politics).

    • @chiquita683
      @chiquita683 5 месяцев назад +1

      Their true IPO? They got bought by Ebay, $13 has no reference. Share price needs shares outstanding and it was a different company

    • @chrimony
      @chrimony 5 месяцев назад

      @@chiquita683 They got bought by eBay after their IPO. The initial price for PayPal was $13. The market cap at $13 was about $800 billion. eBay bought PayPal for $1.5 billion in shares. Motley Fool did an article back in 2019, stating if you had bought $10,000 worth of PayPal stock back in 2002, you would have about $160,000 (of which about $120,000 would be PayPal stock). PayPal has had essentially the same business model since 2002.

    • @chrimony
      @chrimony 5 месяцев назад

      Edit: That should be 800 MILLION, not billion, for the market cap in 2002.

  • @NekoBoyOfficial
    @NekoBoyOfficial 5 месяцев назад +27

    Just recently they've come under fire for pressuring Patreon and Gumroad to get rid of NSFW content.

    • @xcurrentbreeze6626
      @xcurrentbreeze6626 5 месяцев назад +2

      That sounds like the one good thing PayPal is doing.

    • @admiralkaede
      @admiralkaede 5 месяцев назад +5

      pareon has already been doing that when it comes to anime stuff

    • @roar
      @roar 5 месяцев назад +2

      Good ol liberals

    • @pixelpuppy
      @pixelpuppy 5 месяцев назад

      @@xcurrentbreeze6626 if you don't like that stuff, then don't look at it. Let others have their fun.

    • @lovelysakurapetalsyt
      @lovelysakurapetalsyt 5 месяцев назад +4

      They also forced Pixiv to do it too

  • @roar
    @roar 5 месяцев назад +4

    PayPal has always been like this, I've always heard stories of them banning accounts and keeping the money, it has been their specialty, they just got worse instead of better.

  • @tantraman93
    @tantraman93 5 месяцев назад +4

    Oh look, another company making the customer the enemy.

  • @chaoshoy8865
    @chaoshoy8865 5 месяцев назад +39

    PayPal is dying and nothing of value was lost

  • @v_eye_let_17
    @v_eye_let_17 5 месяцев назад +5

    Meanwhile my ex is still scamming people through PayPal and they don’t care at all.

  • @makodad
    @makodad 5 месяцев назад +4

    Paypal's fee is not 5%, it comes to 9% when you account the pathetic conversion rate. I used it before but since then moved to Wise and other options, Paypal is the last option I use and only if the client is ready to bear the charges.

  • @JUAN_OLIVIER
    @JUAN_OLIVIER 5 месяцев назад +4

    I deleted my account as soon as they started banning conservatives for having conservative opinions on the internet.

  • @Treshar
    @Treshar 5 месяцев назад +3

    I used PayPal a lot early on up till I heard they were keeping funds from people who didn't fit the current popular narrative. Hope they do go under, they should have stuck to payment processing & stayed away from politics.

  • @craigslistbuslistingsofnor6494
    @craigslistbuslistingsofnor6494 5 месяцев назад +2

    I figured out Paypal is crooked back in 2009. I sold a bus on eBay and they wanted to hang on to my money for weeks. Never used eBay or Paypal since.

  • @egal1780
    @egal1780 5 месяцев назад +3

    With misinformation and politics, That's Not their Cup of Tea. They really should be More neutral - it's even in their best interest.

  • @cumbi-mongo
    @cumbi-mongo 5 месяцев назад +3

    The same problem after selling an item on ebay! Never got my money for the item, and never got access to my paypal account. What a scam product!!

  • @mycloudvip
    @mycloudvip 5 месяцев назад +7

    Great video! Just as you pointed out the flaws within their system, can you create a video which tracks the viable options for both consumers and developers alike, which offer a more secure and robust alternative to handle online transactions, subscriptions and other important issues.

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  5 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks for the suggestion man!

    • @archvaldor
      @archvaldor 5 месяцев назад +1

      He can't because despite its flaws paypal is one of the worst least worst financail systems. Good luck trying to move money around with old banking or a new e-wallet system.

    • @vayne7556
      @vayne7556 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@archvaldor Stripe is a decent alternative assuming there is support in your HQ country.

  • @disculpa
    @disculpa 5 месяцев назад +10

    PayPal is free to send money to friends and family. Same as Zelle.
    And banks aren't any better about letting you dispute charges to your account. At least in my experience. Credit card companies seem pretty lenient but once it's deducted from your bank account it's gone.

    • @Donnirononon
      @Donnirononon 5 месяцев назад

      That is why is use Revolut - at least for online. Just lock/freeze all my cards until i use them with the tap of my thumb. Also, it pretty much asks you to confirm any transaction, it has a true temporary cards, numerous virtual cards you can manage as you want, savings with interest, you can buy sell crypto and send it to your ledger (neeb/mom friendly), and much more.

  • @sergeantsapient
    @sergeantsapient 5 месяцев назад +2

    I will say the existence of PP did prompt the banks to create Zelle, something that massively facilitated transfers between banks and was very much needed. If PP goes away the banks may not have much incentive to keep it fee-less.

  • @ghost-type
    @ghost-type 5 месяцев назад +2

    Paypal's support is all overseas. I called them today and heard them in the background chatting in their language. I was then transferred to a department that was closed and got hung up on. I'm waiting for my refund and then closing my account. I'll never deal with them again.

  • @Kryojenix
    @Kryojenix 4 месяца назад

    Wow, this is a shock to me. I've been using PayPal for over 20 years and I don't think I've ever had any problems with them ... I will have to watch out!

  • @raylopez99
    @raylopez99 5 месяцев назад +3

    It's almost like PayPal has a bunch of rogue employees working for it who are secretly working for PayPal's competition. I myself have only used PP for sending charity donations so I'm not in any position to complain.

  • @exe_
    @exe_ 5 месяцев назад +2

    It's incredible that I'm not alone, PayPal banned me for selling supplements in Mexico, the thing is they also banned my brothers too for nothing, they didn't sell anything or bought many stuff on PayPal.

  • @hypernovatv911
    @hypernovatv911 5 месяцев назад +2

    I used to absolutely despise Paypal. These days it is more like indifference because there are so many payment options now. I just used Amazon pay to buy something online which I did not know even existed. These days I am offered Apple Pay on almost everything and I think it’s absolutely great.

    • @admiralkaede
      @admiralkaede 5 месяцев назад +1

      sounds great but not everyone has an apple device and google pay is kinda broken now thaty they reverted back to google wallet

  • @Damglador
    @Damglador 2 месяца назад

    Amount of false permanent bans and limits is insane

  • @MrMajani
    @MrMajani 5 месяцев назад +17

    Why does PayPal even involve themselves with these issues? Most of the other payment processors I've dealt with are dumb pipes who just make sure the payments go through and that seems to work for everyone

    • @andrewkoster6506
      @andrewkoster6506 5 месяцев назад

      because they're trying to skim some more off the top using all kinds of internal trickery that you can't prove in any individual case because all of the information is hidden, if it even exists

    • @admiralkaede
      @admiralkaede 5 месяцев назад +3

      nope visa does the same thing and so does master card its all about that ESG score and shareholders for all of them

    • @andrewkoster6506
      @andrewkoster6506 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@admiralkaede Not every company on the stock market has PayPal's specific weird policies. Most companies have other ways to get value to their shareholders.

  • @BayleyDathorne
    @BayleyDathorne 4 месяца назад

    I had no idea Paypal was so controversial. As a Canadian, the "Interac E-Transfer" is what I use to pass money between friends, but to American friends and family, Paypal is miles easier than trying to use the "bank wire" feature and get all of their account information to send a simple transaction.

  • @reginaldegbudin3097
    @reginaldegbudin3097 5 месяцев назад +8

    Listening to this and deleting PayPal from my phone.
    Thanks for the info.

  • @plushyneko
    @plushyneko 5 месяцев назад +2

    PayPal was the only mode of payment for my Minecraft services. Now that I see they're dying, good riddance indeed. I lost 25% of my income for their operational costs.

    • @admiralkaede
      @admiralkaede 5 месяцев назад +1

      What are you even talking about? Paypal takes up to 4% not twenty five percent

    • @admiralkaede
      @admiralkaede 4 месяца назад +1

      @GovernmentIsOutOfControl nothing i use paypal for many payments and have read through its fees it does not charge 25% unless his stuff is cheap and he's being eaten into by the minimum fee

    • @PutkisenSetä
      @PutkisenSetä 4 месяца назад

      4 percent my ass.

  • @rayray117
    @rayray117 5 месяцев назад +6

    I like PayPal. I never had problems with it.

  • @Ray_of_Light62
    @Ray_of_Light62 4 месяца назад

    The fall of PayPal begun when they removed the accounts of internet shops selling fully legal merchandise they disagreed with, like vaping items, etc.
    That is what ended PayPal.

  • @justine_17_
    @justine_17_ 5 месяцев назад +22

    Bro I love your content, but you are putting Jake Tran like click baiting thumbnails 😂

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  5 месяцев назад

      Appreciate the honest feedback Justine

    • @tadakimasu
      @tadakimasu 5 месяцев назад +2

      Lol man's gotta game the system somehow

    • @eq2092
      @eq2092 5 месяцев назад

      A company founded by a man raised in an authoritarian South Africa and whose family exploited people for profit founded a company that is authoritarian and explosive seems legit to me. I never used PayPal but my wife did I had her remove her account after a data breach.

  • @Sunopeek
    @Sunopeek 5 месяцев назад +1

    Their customer service is one of the worst I ever had to deal with.

  • @Gimmick_
    @Gimmick_ 5 месяцев назад +7

    Any recommendations for alternative payment processors?

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  5 месяцев назад +4

      Zelle in the US

    • @SkytorRushTV
      @SkytorRushTV 5 месяцев назад +1

      Guess I'm stuck with PayPal for a while #EU 😢

    • @admiralkaede
      @admiralkaede 5 месяцев назад +1

      NO zelle is NOT a Paypal Alternative only if you use it for paying a peer to peer, but I would not use it at all for any business related deals. There are no protections with Zelle@@LogicallyAnswered

    • @pixelpuppy
      @pixelpuppy 5 месяцев назад

      Alipay maybe? That's becoming more popular. But then you're dealing with China.

    • @steeviebops
      @steeviebops 5 месяцев назад

      Revolut are huge in Ireland but seem to have similar issues with not being able to speak to anyone if things go wrong.

  • @Reecemacka
    @Reecemacka 5 месяцев назад +1

    Ebays system works almost the same with scammers. And their fees are 15%.

  • @UNPhantom93
    @UNPhantom93 5 месяцев назад +6

    Been using PayPal over 15 years now. Hadn’t had any complain at all. Thanks god. Whenever I have a dispute it’s easy to get refunded. Whenever I need something most of the time they will call me to explain things over the phone. Unfortunately they don’t offer their services in my country so I mainly use it for eBay and some other websites I feel safer using it over direct visa/master because our banks services are shitty if got scammed they will not refund you a dime. I don’t like their conversion rate though

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  5 месяцев назад +3

      Glad to hear you’ve had a great experience with them :)

    • @Yumeka86
      @Yumeka86 5 месяцев назад +1

      Same for me, I've used PayPal for over 15 years too and never had a problem. I've actually never had a reason to contact their customer service (hope it stays that way) so I can't say if they suck in that department or not. But I mostly use them as a middle-man when I do my shopping online so I don't have to give my credit card out to lots of different sites. I never leave money in my PayPal either and always transfer it to my bank account.

    • @llary
      @llary 5 месяцев назад

      You will find the complaints are mostly from merchants/sellers, this may be opaque to you as a buyer but merchants who accept PayPal will have rolled in extra fees and risk factor of getting burned into the price you pay.

  • @joesterling4299
    @joesterling4299 4 месяца назад +1

    They can deny you service. Any company can, as long as they don't run afoul of civil rights. *Stealing* from you is another matter entirely. Holding your money for 6 months or failing to pay what they owe you is stealing. I can't understand how this company hasn't been sued by the DOJ, or its higher-ups indicted for criminal conspiracy.

  • @okman9684
    @okman9684 5 месяцев назад +3

    Thats why i think future of online transaction is crypto. Thse companies are more profit oriented rather than customer oriented while cryoto currency are based on customer confidence.
    If just people start considering it as a currency rather than an investment then nothing can stop cryoto from overtaking any currency or bank

    • @thewhitefalcon8539
      @thewhitefalcon8539 5 месяцев назад +1

      Crypto has to be inflationary to be a currency

  • @222INFINITY
    @222INFINITY 5 месяцев назад +1

    Have had nothing but good luck with PayPal. It is the credit cards that scare me off.

  • @scottpowell8973
    @scottpowell8973 5 месяцев назад +7

    My account has been frozen for 4 years, and I still can't touch it because I have to provide a picture proof on one of my old debit cards to confirm if it's a real card? But the problem is that card has expired years ago and I already threw it away. So yeah, can't even use Paypal and since their no customer service that can help me. Yeah I am just dissapointed.

  • @darkartexorcist
    @darkartexorcist 5 месяцев назад +1

    I remember hearing about some artists were suing paypal cuz the company stole well over $100,000 from them so I'm surprised the company is still going, like they can literally ban you if your business were to blow up and you start making more money cuz they deem it suspicious.

  • @h.h.1266
    @h.h.1266 5 месяцев назад +9

    PayPal doesn’t have much margin over what they pay Visa/Master Card. Transaction fee is mostly pass through.

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  5 месяцев назад +6

      Visa and Mastercard have insane margins hahaha

    • @andrewkoster6506
      @andrewkoster6506 5 месяцев назад +6

      this is probably why they do a bunch of extra tricks to straight-up steal users' money from their balances or from "suspicious" transactions

    • @admiralkaede
      @admiralkaede 5 месяцев назад +1

      yes they do and they do the same thing with the political stuff @@LogicallyAnswered

    • @llary
      @llary 5 месяцев назад

      They make around 1.5-2% off the base transaction, then for any foreign currency transactions they add around 4% in currency spread and additional fees. Also a 3% fee for any non US account holder to withdraw USD. They keep all fees on a refund despite the card networks refunding in full minus a few cents.

    • @ff144k
      @ff144k 5 месяцев назад

      ​@LogicallyAnswered no they dont. issuing banks get profits. but they share with consumer with bonus. issuing banks make money off dumb customers not paying on time and interests.

  • @Inst9727
    @Inst9727 4 месяца назад +1

    Don't think it changes your point.
    However, using Nvidia as an example is unfair, Nvidia is literally the company with the fastest growth in the SMP500 in his last quarter. It is not an average big tech company.

  • @littlebrit
    @littlebrit 5 месяцев назад +15

    I never had problem with them. I have two accounts and I transfer funds between two cards on two different card systems. I pay with with them whenever possible because payment cards are unsafe.. Are you going to trust sellers your credit card details or their system ?

    • @andrewkoster6506
      @andrewkoster6506 5 месяцев назад +5

      you're stating the basic value proposition of PayPal, but this was also stated in the video and does nothing to counter all of the downsides

    • @KLondike5
      @KLondike5 5 месяцев назад

      Privacy app gives you burner & limited temporary card numbers to shield your card or accounts. The free tier offers plenty for medium use.

    • @littlebrit
      @littlebrit 5 месяцев назад

      @@andrewkoster6506 in essence the video is about user experience

  • @SchwaAlien
    @SchwaAlien 4 месяца назад

    Yeah, in Canada nobody uses PayPal when transacting with other Canadians because our banks conspired to create flat fee / free “e-transfers” which is almost equivalent to Zelle from the sounds of it. Now all these bank platforms need to figure out a way of transacting with each other internationally if they want to keep the ability to track everything we do.

  • @estikidjr.7783
    @estikidjr.7783 5 месяцев назад +4

    PayPal is the only undervalue stock in todays market lol. While everything is making new highs, PayPal is trotting unsure of what to do or where to go, but it’s probally the best value compare to the rest of the market.

    • @richardbauer8154
      @richardbauer8154 5 месяцев назад

      Now the largest position in my portfolio. 2X by 2025 ;-)

  • @nicolasrodriguezleon8434
    @nicolasrodriguezleon8434 Месяц назад

    Not just PayPal...every single company that offers "Buyer Protection" do that thing...because, there are sellers who scam and buyers who scam...the problem is depper that PayPal.¿Who says the truth?

  • @Business_YT_23
    @Business_YT_23 5 месяцев назад +4

    Can anyone tell me the background music or which type of music should i use while making documentaries like this ?

  • @ManiakGear
    @ManiakGear 5 месяцев назад

    Turns out... People don't like fees for services that are free every where else. And they don't like having their money stolen, or services denied because if their political beliefs.

  • @danielvasquez3758
    @danielvasquez3758 5 месяцев назад +4

    Great video brother!! Thanks!!

  • @silentbob1236
    @silentbob1236 5 месяцев назад

    I closed my account when they said that they were going to fine people for things they say on social media.

  • @carlmelville
    @carlmelville 5 месяцев назад +10

    I'm not a PP defender. However, the tone of this screed is out of alignment with your otherwise excellent body of work. It seemed more like a hit piece.

    • @kimtau87
      @kimtau87 5 месяцев назад

      For example?

  • @B.Ch3rry
    @B.Ch3rry 5 месяцев назад +1

    I'm merely a consumer and casual eBay sell that don't have any real issue with PayPal. I love the Pay in 4 feature. However, I understand the ridiculous fees and hurdles sellers have to go through. Inflation and policy changes is affecting everyone... And this is GOOD!
    Greed, corruption, and racism will have everyone in oppression!!!

  • @flare0080
    @flare0080 5 месяцев назад +4

    I’ve been using PayPal since it launched. Never had an issue and the customer service I’ve experienced with them has been absolutely top notch.
    If an online retailer doesn’t take PayPal, I don’t shop there. This video makes me sad.

  • @MrAsp11
    @MrAsp11 4 месяца назад

    A few months ago there was a Portuguese person that got banned on PayPal because she used her account to buy a train ticket to “Cuba”, a small city in Portugal

  • @FlorianMack
    @FlorianMack 5 месяцев назад +4

    I love the experience with PayPal. Never had any problems

  • @elixier33
    @elixier33 3 месяца назад

    I was victim of fraud with PayPal. Thigh did nothing. Left them with 5k overdrawn balance. They can stick it where the sun don't shine.

  • @RoTelnCheese
    @RoTelnCheese 5 месяцев назад +3

    A stock price can be misleading, just because the sentiment (and valuation) of a company is beaten up, it doesn’t mean the company is about to go out of business. I still use Paypal and I’m a big fan of Venmo, which is very popular with Gen Z. So I couldn’t disagree more with your analysis

    • @niamhturner1451
      @niamhturner1451 5 месяцев назад

      But Paypal is mostly dying off, like since the prevalance of mobile apps for banks in the late 2010s, digital challenger banks (such as Revolut) revoked the need for friends and family because well why wouldn't you just get a bank transfer.
      And with people with friends/family abroad generally just favoring money transfer services, or the digital challenger banks. As well as most reputable sellers just taking your debit/credit card with much more protection than paypal.
      The only major store I know that takes only paypal is Patreon and that's on its way out too

  • @LordKerry
    @LordKerry 5 месяцев назад +1

    I use PayPal every day, I have NEVER had a problem

  • @patrickmurray3724
    @patrickmurray3724 5 месяцев назад +1

    I have never had a problem with PAYPAL and have been using them since the early 90s. It concerns me however about the fees you posted in this video.

  • @LumocolorARTnr1319
    @LumocolorARTnr1319 5 месяцев назад +2

    There is less and less use of PayPal and their high fees and scumbag methods. I hope one day that it's totally replaced by cryptocurrency based services instead.

  • @alliu6562
    @alliu6562 5 месяцев назад

    Funny thing is, in a lot of non-us countries (France for example), direct domestic bank transfers are already free for the average consumer. The only reason why they’d ever use PayPal or any other payment processor is to interact with people outside the country. I’m glad that something like Zelle exists now, but it’s long overdue

  • @SDsc0rch
    @SDsc0rch 5 месяцев назад +3

    YES! GOOD RIDDANCE!!

  • @jonahlloyd3149
    @jonahlloyd3149 5 месяцев назад +2

    How do you compare Nvidia and Paypal? Totally different animals.

  • @pookiepats
    @pookiepats 5 месяцев назад +6

    This is why so many are uninformed, blocking this channel; there's so much misinformation riddled in these video they can't even serve as entertainment anymore.

    • @shtfck6006
      @shtfck6006 5 месяцев назад

      I definitely noticed in this one..

    • @Alcateru
      @Alcateru 5 месяцев назад

      Can someone explain which parts of the video are wrong?

    • @shtfck6006
      @shtfck6006 5 месяцев назад

      @Arukateru I've already given one example. If you click on my name it should show whatever other comments I've made on this channel. If not, it's bc -yt is shadow banning me-

    • @shtfck6006
      @shtfck6006 5 месяцев назад

      @Arukateru 3rd attempt to reply to you. My comments are being suppressed by yt, or I would. Sorry 😞

    • @Alcateru
      @Alcateru 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@shtfck6006 rip :/

  • @user-le2yl5wh6d
    @user-le2yl5wh6d 5 месяцев назад

    Dropped PayPal when they grabbed peoples money who were involved in the trucker protest in Canada.

  • @donaldg.freeman2804
    @donaldg.freeman2804 5 месяцев назад

    This makes me so happy! I stopped using it when they announced their "misinformation" policy and I've never looked back. Although G-pay and others are also woke they didn't stupidly broadcast their totalitarian views.

  • @barrymarootner504
    @barrymarootner504 5 месяцев назад

    When PayPal threatened to fine users $2,500 for posting what they deemed misinformation I shut my account down. Don’t miss getting screwed over by PayPal one bit. Eat a bag PayPal.