Junkyard LS Motor Teardown What To Look For
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- Опубликовано: 26 янв 2022
- In this video I teardown a junkyard LS motor to see if its a "good" usable motor or not. Its not for me so im a little more apprehensive about sending it to my friend Larry if anything looks suspect. Needless to say this particular bright orange motor was hiding some fun. I should have known form the paint it was gonna be a problem.
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Ok I said Crank sensor instead of Cam sensor so nice catch. Its hard to walk and chew gum 😆
U know watching people like u inspire me do better.i wasted most my life on drugs and I'm year clean and don't have nothing other than working at hotel for ruff and food.i work hard but need better job but thank u for video and God bless man!
I feel like most of the time people don't pay attention to the little things in life and the small victories. If you wake up every day and learn to appreciate things for what they are and not what you think they should be things get much better. Congrats on turning your life around. I hope you continue to watch and get inspiration and hopefully get your own projects to work on and enjoy. Happy hot rodding and thank you for watching.
Stay with it John, you're on the right track! It took me years to get to where I am(14yrs)..keep moving forward and remember the hard times ahead are just experience. Burndown, lovin' the info! New LS guy here. Thanks!
@@avguystvhangers4053 thank u and God bless u and ur family!
@@johnbrooks2122 one foot in front of the other, bro.. moving ever forward. The human spirit and will are the strongest forces of all!! Network, and keep at it, and you’ll get where you need to be!!! 💪🏼
Man keep digging you got this
I really appreciate how organic and humble this man is. Thank you
I appreciate that!
@@Burndownwhat type of harness do u use when u do ls swaps ?
Probably from pressure washing it to clean for painting. Simple way to keep water out of the motor if being stored outside is to loosen all the rockers so that no valves are open.
Yes this would make sense. I never did pull the other head so I would imagine it that was the case a cylinder on bank one would have the same issue I bet.
In addition to the pushrod check, When the engine is in the car/truck at junkyard - Try turn it over with breaker bar, if thats ok - remove spark plugs look in with borescope, if thats ok - remove intake and valley cover and look in valley openings with borescope to inspect the camshafts. Or just take the engine out and take it home LOL.
Stay gold.
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This is the best most informative LS teardown video I have seen. I appreciate as I am a beginner with these things.
I'm inspired to go LS in my 1990 obs Chevy, I have stuck with the cast iron engines but it's time for an upgrade thanks man keep posting more videos it a great deal of info for those want to learn
You’re a lucky man, look at that nice sun and t shirt weather to work on a LS in your own driveway
For all the BS we have to put up with in CA weather is usually not one
lol "chingadero" 😆
Been watching some of your uploads and I'm really liking your channel. Clear instructions, solid advice, and overall great content with a goal in mind.
Totally subscribed 🤙😎
Welcome to BurnDown! I have lots of content on here and put out as much as I can on both of my projects. Thank you for the Sub!
This is a great video man!! Not slot of people take apart or put engines back together! Cool to see!!
They do you just don't watch them because your too busy doing burnouts in the nova
This is hands down the best ... how not to take apart an LS video I have seen so far ! ... but hey .. the night is young and the rabbit hole is shallow so far
Your welcome
Nice car! I'm building a 1970 Chevy Monte Carlo. Decided to get a 6.0 LS but definitely have a lot of work to do. Great video!
Thank you! You got this!
Awesome content brother glad to see videos pop back up.
We back!
Thanks Dane, excellent video, really enjoyed it, keep up the great work.
Thank you Paul!
I need a video with the full break down lol awesome video by the way, gonna give it a shot on taking mine apart !
Its not that hard. Watch Sloppy Mechanics and he breaks motors down on the channel. The LS is a pretty simple motor to tear down and put together. Good luck with your build!
Very informative brotha, I actually enjoyed it lol gettin ready to fool wit my ol cateye 5.3, Preciate the help along the way man 🖖🏼😎
Glad I could help
I'm one to just change the bearings and rings anyway I'd probably use it myself though I'd go at least .020 over stock bore and bring the compression back
Great stuff man thanks I love your channel and your ways of showing and explaining 👍 and u ain't cussing every other word like a damn fool thanks for good clean stuff 👍
Thanks Jack! I have a 6 year old son so I just keep it in dad mode. If you go way back to some of my older stuff I had less of a filter but at this point I figured he can watch the videos and other guys with kids can watch them as well. I slip up form time to time but we all do 😆 Thanks for watching!
Watching this videos gets me hyped to learn how to work on this engines! The way i see it i have the rest of my life to learn one more skill!
Thats awesome
I like working on vehicles but have yet to do a complete teardown. Ive assisted my older brother griwning up ive picked up a thing or two. I can do mostvthings but not an overhaul. Recently ive lifted an 20114x4 and a 2007 gmc 2wd. I would like to get in deep into overhauling and programming ECMs.
Great video! You handled that “chingadera” like a champ. 😎
Main thing would be to spin the thing over before you do anything. I feel like we did that before I even brought it home but since it came from a buddy I was over confident this one was good 😆
Learned a bunch from this! Thanks
Thanks for watching!
I'll say this even if there's rust in every cylinder it could spin over. My old motor sat out in weather for 2 yrs and was full of water and rust and spun right over.. the whole motor could easily be ball honed and put back together and work great. If it still has stuff and you already stuck with it then you will have to have it bored which 4.8/5.3 have a lot of bore room
I think this motor was fine for what I would do with it but when its not for me I would like to see a clean motor since they are so easy to come by. He ended up buying a corvette motor... go figure 😆
Oh yeah I like Fe Ford motors too but I have not used one but did own a built Ford 400 big block 79 bronco motor not a modified motor from factory.even had 400 heads
I really enjoy your videos thank you
Thank you Clay!
I love your old school chevy truck in your video
Thank you!
It really does depend on what you want and where you are according to your budget. I think people need to really think things through before going in a direction. Most would hard pass this I on the other hand probably would work with it. A machine shop for me to clean and check it is about the cost of finding another motor. Obviously a pretty messed up block I would chuck it's beyond sleeveing but a good cleaning for the day can tell a lot more than than trying to find an already "cherry" motor. I've seen some pretty ass looking engines and they clean up fine but yeah it really depends on the person of the project.
For this particular project I want a better motor. It's a 5.3 and I can get them a dime a dozen so its not worth the hassle. If it was a great deal and it was for me and I didn't car yeah I would dingle ball it and send it 🤣
@@Burndown Yeah. I've also seen people keep throwing away stuff hoping to stumble upon the perfect junky gem and never actually get anywhere lol. It really does depend on the person I think.
I only mention because people get scared and will keep passing on stuff that's ok looking for something perfect. Just in general, nothing personal on this video itself I mean. 🙂
@@Burndown On top of that it's especially critical if you are doing it for someone else. No one wants to give the other person more work or cost them extra either, that's understandable.
@@CanadaBud23 Yeah at a certain point you have to realize it a used motor. They are pretty bullet proof for the most part too. It all depends of price and effort really. If you go back to my first motor I swapped in the boom I payed 60$ for it and threw a cam in it and ran it and that motor is in some other car running today still haha.
I'm 18 and loving this auto world. Thanks for teaching me here with this video. Subscribing 🙂
Thank you James
As for the bolt size and torque specs, that is exactly how things are engineered. Different duties require a certain bolt diameter, thread pitch, thread length, bolt length, hardness, etc. depending on the job. It is almost equivalent to saying that on average, a home's size is proportional to the family size. Engineers use equations to figure that all out. But good eye to catch that on your own!
Your explanation makes sense. Thank you for explaining!
Very useful info. Thank you.
No problem! Hope it helped.
Hello,
I have yukon 5.3 v8 2008 with 4L60E transmission, and DOD DELETED and I will add in my yukon:
1-long tube HEADERS (Speed engineer)
2-cold air intake(volant)
3-full system exhaust with Y pipe
The qustaion Is which cam should I buy to make more hp and tq:
1-BTR GEN III & IV LS TRUCK NORRIS CAM
Or
2-BTR GEN III & IV LS TRUCK NORRIS NSR CAM
Another qustaion do I have buy valve springs and pushrods?
Thanks a lot and you are helping the people who want to get more hp and tq in thiers cars
Thanks for harmonic balancer, puller hack! 😅
Any junk yard/used engine build. Pull everything, hot tank the block & heads, then start your rebuild from a fresh foundation. Not a big expense for the piece of mind. o7 Great video.
Good advice
Nothing wrong with that little bit of rust. Hell on marine engines they will just bore one cylinder and as long as you balance the piston and rod to the rest it’s all good. I wouldn’t be happy if I paid a premium for it but that wouldn’t stop a rebuild/refresh for any shop I’ve worked at. 30+ years experience.
He wanted something he could just throw some bearings at and go. This motor would be fine for a rebuild im sure but I ended up getting a running 5.3 for him that I pulled out of a project truck.
I knew this guy was a pro when I saw lube on the crank puller!! New sub great video!!! I have a e90 Bmw I'm going to LS swap learning Ls . VERY familiar with Bmw engines. just want a German ctsv lol
Ls swapped BMW’s look fun! Thanks for the sub!
Please do a reliable 400/450 hp (aluminum block) to the wheels engine combo that could live in a drift car if possible that would be dope!
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I won't call them boring it's just not typically my cup of tea lol, I am more of a fan of gen 1 and 2 SBC, and Oldsmobile and pushrod Chrysler v8 like the magnum 318 5.2 litre motors but LS 4.8,5.3,5.7,6.0,6.2 motors can be quite nasty in the right vehicle and combination
Nice job mate
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Great vid, thanks!
No problem!
You passed in this block because of one damaged cylinder and said it can be fixed by honing it out. I’ve seen honing done on almost every rebuild/upgrade video I’ve watched while researching this process. Would boring it out be out of the question fir this block as well? If I do find a block with a similar issue and wanted to keep going, what would be the next thing to observe as a definite deal breaker?Great video. Very informative explanations of what to look for in a junkyard motor. I am going to do my first ever teardown and rebuild this fall and I’m shopping the junkyard for a LS currently!
I passed because it was for a friend and not me. If it were mine I would just dingle ball hone it and send it haha.The definite deal breaker is the cam bearings. If you pull the cam out and the bearings come out with the cam the block is junk.
@@Burndowndamn how fucked up would it have to be for that to happen 😂
Great content buddy!! Liked n Subbed!! ✊🏽💪🏽🇺🇸
Thank you! Welcome to BurnDown! I post every week as much as I have time for. If you have questions or anything feel free to comment and I get back to all the comments as well!
When I sent my heads to the machine shop for a valve job, they were painted like the ones in the vid.
Chevy orange is not my color haha
was stored somewhere damp and that cylinders intake valve was open
Im blaming the chevy orange color
Good stuff!
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im interested in doing my first ls build or rebuild depending on what I can find atm. I live in Texas. Do you have any tips? Really enjoyed this video and your energy. Thanks!
Have a plan of what you would like to do. If its just a learning exercise then build whatever is cheap so if you mess it up its not a big a deal. The LS platform is pretty straight forward so you'll be fine. Go check out Sloppy Mechanics for all kinds of info on swaps.
@@Burndown awesome thanks. just got my hands on a LM7 5.3 and it came with a 2005 tahoe. cant wait to tear it up!
@@Sean-zc3ivhow is it going?
@@MOE13576 its going good so far. thanks for asking. Rebuilt the 4l60e now im waiting for more funds to do the engine!
@@Sean-zc3iv that's great. What part of Texas are you from ?...I hear you..And you're welcome by the way
The real Larry wood!? I'd kill to meet him!
Yep. Hes a very nice guy and a real gear head. Ill have to see if I can chat with him on camera for you guys.
Caught me off guard when homie said “Take off the ol CHINGADERA”😂😂
It’s a technical term 🤣
@@Burndown made me follow after fs😂👌🏼
@@lsxeddie well I hope you like odd ball stuff like pacers and ram let’s and turbo Winnebagos! Welcome to the channel.
Have a question for you. On the bottom side of the block where the pan bolts on, are those freeze plugs. Looks to be 4 on each side. I have a 5.3 that is leaking oil out of one of them and I want to make sure it's not a boat anchor.
If it’s leaking oil it has oil so I guess that’s good. Hopefully just a bad gasket
Impact on a puller or a spring compressor is a no no. But if you must at least grease the threads guys.
This is a good tip. I do put a bit of grese on the threads of the puller. I have ruined one before from running an impact on it. Chewed up the threads pretty good.
I have a depstech camera that connects to my phone. pull plugs at the yard throw the camera in spark plug holes and see whats whats.
So Dane nice C10 in the garage! You didn't sell my Mustang did ya?
Its at the interior shop
@@Burndown Awesome
What cam would you recomend on something like this. A 5.3, no turbo just to get the most out of it with basic setup
Any cam is going to do well. If its just to drive around I would sacrifice a bit of HP and do a truck style cam for the TQ down low so its more fun to drive.
seriously don't ask him. When spec'g a cam there are a lot of things to consider like ; what will the engine be used for, street, strip, combination. Automatic or manual shift? rpm range you want to be in or where the engine is most of the time, driveability, torque converter, rear end (differential) gears, power adders forced induction (turbo, super or no2) are you starting to get the picture?
I’m swapping my 1995 Trans Am LT1 for a 6.0 from a 2006 express 3500 van. Like most people, it’s the wiring that intimidates me. Any tips or advice/thoughts since you’ve done many of them?
Terminator X from Holley is my go to. You can use a factory computer to try to save money but you'll need to pay for a tune so factor that into your decision.
Fast plug and play, that is definitely the best way. You will need some relays for your fans and a/c . They come with easy to fallow instructions and set up.
Always be weary of 706 casting heads with battery symbol under rockers they crack really easy so if u do use them have them pressure tested Always the engine builder I work for junks these and won't even put them on a rebuild
Good tip
More info on the C10 in the garage.
Ill do a video when im done with it. Maybe we can take it around the block and ill review it. Im a little afraid to drive it tho because its above my pay grade even tho im the guy that made it nice 😆
What's hard to watch is you not using a simple tripod to film. There like 15 bucks, Like your stuff.
i just bought a 1999 silverado and dont know anything about ls engines. im a xj guy know a lot about the 4.0L.
LS Motors are the best bang for buck you can get IMO
Probably the reason many many countless men and boys turn into gear heads lol
A dingle ball hone would work that rust ring out just fine.. Unless the cylinder wall has some legitimate serious pitting after clean up it doesn't need a machine shop, that just puts more money into it for rings maybe even pistons if the shop wants to f#ck you good your looking at an extra 1000$ for a junkyard buil ls.
He just wanted to get a good used one and thrown some bearings and oil pump and some seals it and go. So this is not the motor for that. IMO
Another thing with these is if the bearing aren’t trashed then just measure and reuse them. They are to right from the factory anyways at .001. I’d rather see .0025-.003 on the crank and rods if it’s going to see any RPM or added power over stock.
I have a LS 5.3 from a junk yard and I’d like to rebuild it do you have a video with more Specifications?
No sorry. I tore this one down and it ended up bing ugly so I didnt want to use it. You could probably get away with throwing some cam bearings and new main and rods in it and running a ball hone real quick and slapping it back together if its for a project car. Ifs its a DD I would take it to a machine shop if your not sure.
@@Burndown thank you 🙏
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Awesome video but that engine stands looking real sorry 😂 appreciate the information though!
I still have it. Hasn't quit yet. I wouldn't put a big block on it tho it would probably fold haha
What is the name of the black piece you had a problem with pulling out that was bolted in the front of the block , the little black piece .
The balancer?
if you're hunting junk yards for engines invest in a cheapo bore camera, it will save you a lot of wasted time but that engine right there if I had it I'd disassemble it, hone the cylinders to clean them up and send it...
I got this motor form a friend. I would not have pulled a bright orange painted motor for that reason alone haha. Good tip on the bore camera tho. Never thought of that.
Hey Dude what happened to the patina ute that was in the carport
Its in the back yard for a bit so I can get the short bed done first. That truck will take quite a while to do and the guy with the short bed has been waiting on me for quite a while so im squeezing him in.
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Can anyone explain to me what melling oil pump to go with. In my "thinking" , i shoukd use what pump my 5.3 LMG uses (high volume/high pressure) which is for the afm motor. Some people say otherwise......but why? Why woukd you NOT want to flow oil the beat possible way? I get that you need to add the couple dollar "baffle/redistribute piece" so it doesnt juat throw and splash oil, but i juat want "real works advice and explanation" on what oil oump is best for a 5.3, because i want bulletproof/MORE than enough oil and pressure for life. Lol thanks, ✌️
The high flow ones can pump the pan out before the oil returns back to the pan. The problem gets worse if you have a swap pan with less oil. Rule of thumb is 10psi per 1k rpm. So 20 lb min at 2000 rpm and so on. Hope that helps
@@Burndown that does help. Thankyou. I appreciate it. So which one would you recommend for a 4.8 or 5.3 "mild build" , that I want in the 3-400hp range, possibly a small turbo in future , but overall bulletproof longevity wise? (focusing on high quality camshaft and cam components/lifters/trunnion/oiling system/etc. ) been reading up on what the guys that drift or boat race do with their oil since their engines are sideways all the time...lol thanks man.
@@DwightKShrute Melling m295 will work fine for what your doing.
It ingested some water or coolant.
Probably water yes.
are you not worried about keeping the pushrods in order?
No not really. I mostly look to see that they are straight and not plugged up and that both ends are shiny smooth and not dull or scored at all.
@@Burndown it also might be worth checking the length, if you care about the Valvetrain
Dumb question: but if i get lets say a 01 5.3 with a 4wd transmission. I cant just swap the transmission to a 2wd right ?
You would have to do other things to swap from a 4wd to a 2wd transmission
@@Burndown I ended up getting a 2wd to avoid all the fuss .
Dingleball for sure!!!!!
I agree with you and I think it would probably work out but since its going to a friend I just don want to get a call saying the junk motor was junk haha
Would looking at the plugs tell you anything?
If it was in a car yeah if its out like this probably not.
Ain't nothing wrong with the motor, man.
Yeah but it wasn't for me so I passed on it. He ended up getting an LS1 after I got him a good 5.3 any way so go figure haha
Soak the cylinders in white vinegar and you'll get the rust right out of those cylinders and clean them up and you'll have a better idea what you are working with.
never heard of that but I bet it works. I know you can soak chrome parts in wood bleach and it will take the rust off chrome. Its a good trick for chrome parts.
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Thats what im talking about! Welcome to the channel!
I don't know of a junk yard that will let you take the motor apart and then not buy it...... every yard iv'e been to already have them pulled and you can twist the crank a few times and then buy or not
We have self service yards out here that you can take a motor apart at if you want. I get most of mine from a core supplier that will take them apart for me to inspect. It’s definitely cool to be able to pull a cam out and know the bearings stay in the block
Thanks for this video. I'm a MOPAR guy and have never messed with efi
LS motors are cheap fun
@Burndown I picked up a ls3 yesterday
You said "crank" sensor. I'm sure you meant "cam" sensor.
Well at least I said I wasn't a pro before I started 🤡🤣. You know what I was saying but yes cam sensor
That janky paint job was your 1st red flag.
No doubt. I paint mine, but that ones ridiculous.
Krylon rebuild
@@trentdawg2832 Who paints an engine with rattle can lacquer? Same people that spray aluminum heads silver :D
I thought it would add some HP but guess not. HAHA . It was a smoking deal on a motor/trans combo so its not the end of the world. I agree tho the paint was pretty spectacular
@@notsure7874 Even the exhaust ports. I bet this thing would have looked awesome after a few heat cycles.
Is it a cast or aluminum block?
This is an iron block
Did your flames change color from green to less green? Still way nicer than pre-bodywork boom.
Yeah the Lime Kandy Gold didn't hold up in the sun very well. I know Pink and Magenta will fade as well. Im gonna do a lime peral color next time and clear the whole car. It will get re done before RMRW 2023. For now im gonna run it. If I have time at some point maybe well scuff it and hammer it out again.
My '05 Silverado went through two melling oil pumps...I'm taking it apart soon on vid...like or don't like, but subscribe to check it out. ✌
Hope you figure it out
Did you say" Bob's your Uncle"?
Yep
Question, is this a truck or car engine? Thanks
Truck
that thing shouldn't be anywhere near that hard to spin with the heads off. They should spin by hand from the pulley. The amount of funk in there ... hard pass!
haha yeah she's not too healthy
Your wrong about the ft/lbs it is 22 for a 8mm but it’s in newton meters (metric) so it’s 22 N/Mtr
30N should be 22#. I may be wrong but that’s what I have been doing. I’ll double check tho. Thanks foe the heads up.
@@Burndown love content by the way
So the answer is to rebuild it?
No not this one. I wanted one that I could throw some bearings in and go. This was a lot uglier than I like. It could be rebuilt tho or probably even run. It was going to a friend so I didn’t want to chance it.
Engine is less sketchy than that engine stand.
I agree
is that a l33, lm7 or what?
LM7 the L33 is aluminum. Same displacement tho.
Did you say 5.3... i see dished pistons 😯
This was a 5.3 from what I saw. Falt tops usually are 4.8. Some of the later model 5.3 had flat tops as well. At least the motors I have taken apart.
Bobs your uncle!
Bore it .020 and throw some flat tops!
The plan was to find a good running stater motor for him. If it were for myself I would use this one but its for my friend Larry so I passed up on it since its just a 5.3. I agree with you tho.
@@Burndown yeah I get the whole budget ls build I’m not that brave! I have problems with new parts!😳
that paint is also a big red flag lol. they probably saw it had low oil pressure and was puking water after they dicked with it then yanked it out and let it sit in the yard for a year.
I knew it the chevy orange broke it!!!
you are using your hand for a hammer. I am concerned for you. Your body can only take so much before you start having long term effects. Thanks for the informational video.
Complete rattle can rebuild. It'll be fine. No, no, it won't!
It was ok till it wasn't
Morale of story...dont trust anyones word
The orange paint gives it away. 🤣
28 psi 7gs and some e85 will clean that cylinder right up
I concur
What sucks is that the paint and silver heads make it look like a good engine. Polishing a turd.
Yes. Another good lesson to look out for. If it has paint in it it’s probably been out of a vehicle before. Unopened motors are usually the best candidates
What does Bob's your uncle mean?
It means good to go! haha I think...
@@Burndown lmao at the I think part
inspection camera would have saved you a lot of time
It was for educational purposes anyway 😊
But it wouldn't be as fun. Would be key at the junkyard if you had one for sure
Yep
Larry? Larry Wood???
Yeah
@@Burndown you literally know Royalty there!