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    Whenever a royal dies under mysterious circumstances, conspiracy theory about what might really have happened inevitably spring up. And with them come pretenders claiming to be the long lost lord or lady. And claiming their right to royal riches. Today we’ll examine 4 cases of missing royals which led to multiple famous impostor coming forth to claim a crown. And look at DNA evidence to find out if any of their stories might have been true.
    1. The Princes in the Tower (Edward V of England & Richard, Duke of York)
    2. The Three False Dmitris of Russia
    3. Louis XVII of France (Louis Charles)
    4. The Romanov Children (Olga, Tatiana, Maria, Anastasia & Alexei
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Комментарии • 571

  • @Kerriangel
    @Kerriangel Год назад +884

    Imagine a historical version of Maury with the various pretenders.
    Maury: The DNA test proves… you are NOT the true king!
    Pretender: *flips chair and is restrained by guards*

    • @adxre0
      @adxre0 Год назад +73

      Cant forget the cameraman running fast asf behind them

    • @goldenrosie
      @goldenrosie Год назад +59

      I could see that being a Horrible Histories skit. That would be funny.

    • @aleeyahgriffith7696
      @aleeyahgriffith7696 Год назад +57

      Painters chasing the pretender like the cameraman trying to get some paint strokes in 💀

    • @captainwartburger2571
      @captainwartburger2571 Год назад +13

      @@aleeyahgriffith7696 LMAOO

    • @aestheticslowed1750
      @aestheticslowed1750 Год назад +12

      That would have been so entertaining😭

  • @Spyro1000Fan
    @Spyro1000Fan Год назад +296

    It’s so sad that murdering children in line for the throne was something that happened so often

    • @clairefordzetterstrom9973
      @clairefordzetterstrom9973 Год назад +9

      True😔💔

    • @deborahmitchell3299
      @deborahmitchell3299 7 месяцев назад +1

      Yes true that & king richard got what he deserved in the end by King Henry 7th. Goes to show that greed does not pay! 😊

  • @womerine
    @womerine Год назад +853

    I've heard these stories so many times, the boys in the tower, the Romanov girls enduring bullets ricocheting off their hidden jewels, the dauphin dying in squalid darkness. It still fills me with sadness for them.

    • @AHunt2024
      @AHunt2024 Год назад +85

      honestly same. especially because at the end of the day, a lot of these victims in the conflicts were just children, innocent or didn't want anything to do with it. it makes me so sad

    • @challengestars944
      @challengestars944 Год назад +36

      Me too. The children were young and innocent. Their only crime was being "in the way" of people who wanted the power for themselves.

    • @timofejs8283
      @timofejs8283 Год назад +6

      womerine I’m sorry but Romanoff isn’t spelt like that it’s Romanov

    • @womerine
      @womerine Год назад +3

      @@timofejs8283 I apologize, didn't think to check my spelling there.

    • @timofejs8283
      @timofejs8283 Год назад +2

      I’m sorry

  • @queenelizabethiofengland7338
    @queenelizabethiofengland7338 Год назад +883

    Catholicism and the Pope accused me of this because I was the daughter of Anne Boleyn…

    • @kinghenryviiiofengland4376
      @kinghenryviiiofengland4376 Год назад +219

      That would rather be my fault dear

    • @Hello-yq8kk
      @Hello-yq8kk Год назад +38

      Poor you

    • @areiaaphrodite
      @areiaaphrodite Год назад +19

      Weeeeeeell....

    • @jonirnmomba4130
      @jonirnmomba4130 Год назад +103

      @@kinghenryviiiofengland4376 it’s nice to see you two opening up dialogue after all these years. Just remember, your emotions are your own and validated. Speak in love and really dig together to rectify and redeem and move forward!

    • @mediocremaiden8883
      @mediocremaiden8883 Год назад +12

      Anne Boleyn was my daddy

  • @benbankss
    @benbankss Год назад +467

    The Romanov childrens’ death is probably the most heartbreaking thing I’ve ever heard. I always bothered me ever since I was a kid

    • @jaybee9269
      @jaybee9269 Год назад +11

      Don’t look up what happened the Goebbels children.

    • @AS-yz2iz
      @AS-yz2iz Год назад +35

      Have you read the history of the Ottoman Empire? One sultan had his 19 brothers strangled when he took the throne. They killed their brothers, uncles, nephews, and even their parents and children. Quite disturbing.

    • @charlietbarnes4842
      @charlietbarnes4842 Год назад +13

      I know especially after watching the Disney movie I was convinced she was alive theirs a thing on Netflix about the romanovs last days its so sad x

    • @Zeldafan1ify
      @Zeldafan1ify Год назад +19

      Very sad indeed, but imagine that poor 3 yr old boy who was publicly hanged. All because of politics. It can't get anymore hesrtbreaking than that

    • @etorresrodz
      @etorresrodz Год назад +12

      @@charlietbarnes4842 never will I understand the decision to make a CHILDREN'S MOVIE about the Russian revolution glorifying the abusive Romanov dinasty... it's known the whole thing was bloddy and gruesome

  • @Daughterofminerva
    @Daughterofminerva Год назад +86

    Poor Marie Therese. Her family was killed and she also had to bear all these men claiming that they were her brother.

  • @elizabethiiqueenofu.k.head9009
    @elizabethiiqueenofu.k.head9009 Год назад +492

    It’s so funny that there were so many Anastasia Pretenders and yet so many people believed them all.

  • @goldenrosie
    @goldenrosie Год назад +90

    The horrible treatment and deaths of all these Royal children is utterly heartbreaking, how could anyone be so cruel to children? I hope they can all Rest In Peace.

    • @clairefordzetterstrom9973
      @clairefordzetterstrom9973 Год назад +3

      True they didnt do anything wrong, it's their parents

    • @LotusStitchandSketch
      @LotusStitchandSketch 11 месяцев назад +2

      You must remember my friend that in those days such risks simply could not be taken lightly. Look what happened with the wars of the roses. when you live in an age where realistically ANYONE could take the crown from you at a moments glance any threat to the throne must be dealt with whatever the cost maybe. Sadly that often meant you had to get rid of their children as well if only to keep them from trying to seek revenge for the deaths of their parents even if they never had a desire to take the throne themselves.

  • @CheeseOnTop2007
    @CheeseOnTop2007 Год назад +338

    The romanovs execution always haunted me as a child.
    The children shouldn’t suffer for what the adults did

    • @angr3819
      @angr3819 Год назад

      I think it was their close enough forebears who executed by hanging the 6 year old heir to the throne when they took it by force.
      The Romanovs were extremely cruel to the people of Russia. The revolution was merely a change of dictatorship though.

    • @CheeseOnTop2007
      @CheeseOnTop2007 Год назад +23

      @@angr3819 That’s literally my point. It was the ADULTS that were cruel to Russia. The kids were clueless to what happened outside their palace.And even if they did, what power do they have against their parents and the monarchy

    • @angr3819
      @angr3819 Год назад +7

      @@CheeseOnTop2007 People seem to excel at being either very good or very bad. Here, it was the prince's in the tower and the young Prince who may have suffered autism being put out of sight in the country with his Nanny, and they weren't even sent enough to exist. Locals gave them food.
      That is only the royals. The lower ranks could also be cruel. The youngest child executed here (for murder of another child) was only 6. Did he comprehend enough to have deliberately ended a life? Other children also jailed and executed here and abroad. Also stolen for slavery in the Caribbean and what is now the USA.
      Animals also. A pig. As well as on another occasion a monkey found on a Spanish ship taken in warfare. Taken to court and found guilty of spying.
      Yet other times there have been occasions of extraordinary bravery, kindness and self sacrifice for people and even other animals.
      Go figure. Because I can't 🤔😒😏🙂 we are a strange bunch.

    • @IAmWBeard
      @IAmWBeard Год назад +6

      They didn’t. They suffered for what they represented and the threat they posed once they became adults. When u weed a garden, you don’t just pull the mature weeds, u get all of them, root and stem. Not trying to sound like i support what happened, i don’t, obvs, but i do understand it.

    • @arvinroidoatienza7082
      @arvinroidoatienza7082 Год назад +6

      A wise man had said, why is it when men play their game of thrones, it is the children who suffer?

  • @Lulu-ut9pv
    @Lulu-ut9pv Год назад +80

    It's so sad how the children suffered because of their relatives/ links to the throne

  • @joshuawells835
    @joshuawells835 Год назад +136

    There's also the tale of Mary Baker a.k.a. Princess Caraboo, a 19th century imposter who pretended to be the princess of an island nation in the Indian Ocean. She fooled the British aristocracy for months and is said to have had an audience with Napoleon at St. Helena.

    • @kaloarepo288
      @kaloarepo288 Год назад +7

      Saw the movie a few months ago starring Kevin Kline and his wife Phoebe Cates -it was her last substantial role before she retired from acting to raise her family.John Sessions,English actor and comedian was also in it as the Prince-Regent(later George IV) who was taken in by the deception big time.

    • @immagical7036
      @immagical7036 Год назад

      IVE HEARD OF HER OMG, I thought it was fake omg

  • @katsy0c0
    @katsy0c0 Год назад +85

    The story of little Louis-Charles always breaks my heart. :(

    • @dashson7560
      @dashson7560 Год назад +10

      Same. He was no older than five and I can only dread to think of how he was treated 😢. Such a sad sad story.

    • @clairefordzetterstrom9973
      @clairefordzetterstrom9973 Год назад +4

      Same imagine if the executioners didn't beat him up and he became a king and have children,we would still have a monarchy of France today😔💔

    • @nicoleackerman205
      @nicoleackerman205 Год назад +1

      It was straight up child abuse and disgusting. I don't care that is parents were selfish it was so mess up what happened to him.

    • @anglfail
      @anglfail Год назад +1

      @@nicoleackerman205 his parents weren't even that bad. his mother cared for him and all children in general deeply.

    • @ChibiPanda8888
      @ChibiPanda8888 7 месяцев назад +1

      At the risk of sounding calloused, I'd say it was a mercy that he died. If he had lived after that torment, he would be so seriously messed up both physically and mentally that he may not have lived long anyway.
      Poor kid. Such a heartbreaking story.

  • @avaglennon9873
    @avaglennon9873 Год назад +166

    A three-year-old was publicly hanged?! That’s so gruesome

    • @Luboman411
      @Luboman411 Год назад +32

      Russian imperial history has long been plagued by "pretenders." Tsar Michael Romanov was 16 when he ascended the Russian throne in 1613. He had grown up his whole life watching villages and towns being burned, their inhabitants pillaged and raped, himself and his mother running away in terror to the only safe places at the time--monasteries and nunneries. In fact, when this poor, traumatized teenager was summoned from his safe-place monastery by a council of noblemen--they wanted to give him the crown of Russia!--his first reaction was to vomit while his horrified mother fainted. HE DID NOT WANT TO BE TSAR. But the noblemen pleaded with him for a year, until he relented because his mom gave him permission. Tsar Michael saw firsthand what happens when you let all these "pretenders" live and run around causing all sorts of havoc. That three year old would soon grow up to be a very angry young man, seeking the throne and starting civil war all over again. So he had to kill the three year old in a public way so that NO "pretenders" came along to destroy the peace and stability of Russia.

    • @pseudonymous9153
      @pseudonymous9153 Год назад

      @@Luboman411 does your mother know you promote child murder on the internet

    • @thesunsetshere
      @thesunsetshere Год назад +5

      Disgusting

    • @laurieb3703
      @laurieb3703 Год назад +19

      @@Luboman411 so he became what had tortured him for so long. To a tiny little boy who had no idea what was going on. Disgusting!

    • @angr3819
      @angr3819 Год назад +5

      Apparently the original Romanov dynasty who stole the throne hung the 6 year old heir.

  • @imonherenow3673
    @imonherenow3673 Год назад +61

    The Princes in the Tower has to be one of the saddest stories in history. Nobody was spared during those times.

    • @janamihalova4058
      @janamihalova4058 Год назад +2

      There is no evidence they were murdered.

    • @janamihalova4058
      @janamihalova4058 10 месяцев назад

      @@jamielauren6282 your comment sounds very stupid and rude especially when you obviously dont care about this topic enough to read anything more recent and scientific but I will answer anyway. there have been a few theories from real historians that the boys either stayed in Tower and died much later, or they were actually relocated to another place, not a prison, and there they lived. There are many hints showing that the princes were still alive when Richard III died in 1485. For example after Richard died nobody of a rank accused him of killing the boys. Not even the boys' mother, of their sister who became queen nor Henry VII who couluse this accusation as his advantage...

  • @areiaaphrodite
    @areiaaphrodite Год назад +39

    1st False Dimitri: Fear not Russia, I have come back from the dead to save you!
    Russia: Hooray!
    2nd False Dimitri; Psych! I'm the real Dimitri, I got this.
    Russia: oh... um, okay, cool!
    3rd False Dimitri: Did someone say my name-
    Russia: -Nope. * walks away *

  • @Colinop
    @Colinop Год назад +20

    not only does, by legend, Marina's curse state "you begun with a Tsarevich, you will end with a Tsarevich!" but she also says "in Ipatiev's you started, in Ipatiev's you will end!" Ipatiev's Monastery was where Tsar Michael I was when the Sobor announced he would be Tsar. Ipatiev's House was the merchant's home where Tsar Nicholas II, his wife, his daughters, and Tsarevich Alexei were when they were executed

  • @zuziagalant6761
    @zuziagalant6761 Год назад +187

    Poles trying to put three different Dmitris on the Russian throne is actually a funny story… I have learned about it at school (I am Polish) and it is ridiculous how they were so obsesssd with getting Russia for themselves and then when Vasa prince was able to claim it basically as a Polish puppet state they were like nO, thanks

    • @Luboman411
      @Luboman411 Год назад +10

      If the Poles had gained total control over Moscow, and kept that control under Polish kings, the borders of Poland would've expanded all the way to central Siberia. So it makes perfect sense that they were obsessed with getting Russia for themselves because, well, the prize was enormous. Poland would today be a radically different country if they had been successful.

    • @HassanZargari
      @HassanZargari Год назад +6

      Just imagine not having to worry about Moscow's influence in the region, nor worrying about Russia at all.

    • @Nepetita69696
      @Nepetita69696 Год назад +3

      @@HassanZargari Literally like who wouldn't want that.

    • @alecmiller6066
      @alecmiller6066 Год назад +1

      It was extremely tragic actually, country suffered a lot because of that manipulations, Russian royalty decided to create a new dynasty

    • @farhanatashiga3721
      @farhanatashiga3721 Год назад +6

      @@HassanZargari all that would do is made Poland replace Russia's place

  • @areiaaphrodite
    @areiaaphrodite Год назад +98

    Sigh... I love when good old DNA tests prove pretenders to be frauds... now can we please test the bones of the Princes in the Tower???

    • @royaltyfandomx
      @royaltyfandomx Год назад +2

      There is no need it’s obvious it’s the princes!

    • @areiaaphrodite
      @areiaaphrodite Год назад +27

      @@royaltyfandomx it would still be nice though just to put it to rest once and for all

    • @emilybreidenbach7865
      @emilybreidenbach7865 Год назад +8

      @@royaltyfandomx I’m not so sure

    • @Asri_
      @Asri_ Год назад +19

      @@royaltyfandomx A lot of people have died in the tower. It may not be the two princes.

    • @mariavi33
      @mariavi33 Год назад +13

      @@royaltyfandomx Several remains have been found that could have been them throughout the centuries, so it's impossible to know if the official ones are right. I highly recommend watching the video History Calling has done about them.

  • @DoubleMrE
    @DoubleMrE Год назад +51

    Ironically, the two people directly referred to as “pretenders” (James and Charles Stuart) in British history, were the legitimate heirs.

  • @JonManProductions
    @JonManProductions Год назад +133

    In spite of current events, I'm at least happy to know that the mystery of the Romanovs was resolved far more conclusively than any other of the pretenders in this video :D I'm happy to have discovered this channel recently through my royal family binges across the youtube :)

    • @jennklein1917
      @jennklein1917 Год назад

      Good old DNA, didn't know the Queen's hubby was the Tsar's closest living relative.Wow they are a bunch of inbreds🤪🤪

    • @jamig.7254
      @jamig.7254 Год назад

      You might want to ask yourself, who declared all the Romanovs dead?
      Then research Anna Anderson through her American lawyer's notes and case, which is in the Harvard University's archives.
      Then wonder why the Germans gave her a fortified house to live in- could not dismiss her identity in court, and later buried her in their cemetery for Nobility.

  • @luisjaviercarrasquillo6342
    @luisjaviercarrasquillo6342 Год назад +163

    I look forward to these every Tuesday - keep them coming, Lindsay!

  • @jewlz9095
    @jewlz9095 Год назад +28

    My roommate and I met someone who swore she was a descendant of princess Anastacia. I wish I could of seen her face when they actually found the remains and were dna tested

    • @phoney4387
      @phoney4387 Год назад +2

      uhmmmmmmmm..........there are people alive today who are descendants of Anastasia.....the Romanovs were a family of more than 7 people 🤦🏿‍♀️

    • @jessilynallendilla5014
      @jessilynallendilla5014 11 месяцев назад +5

      @@phoney4387 yeah and they all were murdered before the five children could have children

    • @phoney4387
      @phoney4387 10 месяцев назад

      Thank god for that @@jessilynallendilla5014 🙌🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

    • @MegCazalet
      @MegCazalet 9 месяцев назад +4

      @@phoney4387 Just to make sure this is clear, as it’s a matter of understanding the meaning of “descendants” vs “ancestors”, etc: As established, there were no survivors from the immediate Imperial Family. For there to be descendants of Anastasia she would need to have had a child in the first place. And even if one of her sisters had a child who could’ve continued the family line, Olga for example, the ensuing generations wouldn’t be “descendants” of Anastasia; they’d share earlier *ancestors* with Anastasia but they’d be *descended* from Olga. And as stated, none of the Imperial children had children of their own before they were murdered. There are no living descendants of Nicolas and Alexandra, let alone Anastasia.

  • @sirwelch9991
    @sirwelch9991 Год назад +47

    There are two kinds of Pretenders: Heirs that lost their thrones and Impostors. You covered them both. Good job!

  • @Extremelychubbyglutton
    @Extremelychubbyglutton Год назад +20

    It’s very chilling that Marina cursed Mikhail, and that it would turn out to be true more than 300 years later…

  • @chykim1
    @chykim1 Год назад +23

    Even if I were the real such and such, I'd probably deny it. Being a Royal doesn't seem all that safe.

    • @farhanatashiga3721
      @farhanatashiga3721 Год назад

      Back then it wasn't, today's royals are protected by their bureaucracy.

    • @LotusStitchandSketch
      @LotusStitchandSketch 11 месяцев назад

      I'm inclined to agree. As wonderful as that life sounds to many of us looking in so to speak I don't think I'd want to actually live that life. Even when you're not the immediate/direct heir there are so many people who would still be rather willing to do you in if only given the chance

  • @royaltyfandomx
    @royaltyfandomx Год назад +35

    Anna: I’m Anastasia
    Soviets: How is she in France?
    Anna: *lies

  • @2krenegade323
    @2krenegade323 Год назад +10

    Okay I’m not gonna lie- that curse about the Romanovs is just a little bit spooky. Great video as always!

  • @Start.a.curvolution
    @Start.a.curvolution Год назад +29

    Well, the Anastasia story came straight to my mind bc it was my fav animation film when I was 8 yrs old and my grandpa was a history teacher bought me a book about the story of the real fake Anastasia

    • @etorresrodz
      @etorresrodz Год назад +2

      I loved that movie too when I was little but after growing up and learning about the Romanovs I cannot comprehend why would they make a movie about that and for children

  • @Alex-ms9em
    @Alex-ms9em Год назад +16

    Currently moving into my dorm room, this is just what I needed to listen to while I unpack! :D

  • @mariavi33
    @mariavi33 Год назад +22

    If anyone wants to know more about the princes in the tower, I highly recommend the video History Calling made about it. She goes through all the sources and debunks many of the myths (for example, that they were illegitimate, and that Henry VII or Margaret Beaufort could have done it).
    She also has a video about if Edward IV was illegitimate or not if anyone wants to know about that. And she made a video about the deaths of the Romanovs.

  • @simplyselina
    @simplyselina Год назад +6

    This is the first time I’ve seen colorized photos of the Romanov family. Thank you for this!!

  • @aceofspades8634
    @aceofspades8634 Год назад +91

    Having just finished watching, I’m now interested to know if there has ever been a successful Royal imposter who managed to hold on to power and secure the throne for themselves and their descendants… 🤔 Does anybody know?
    P.S. Great video as always! You make Tuesday’s my favourite day of the week! 🤗

    • @maverickhuntersyd
      @maverickhuntersyd Год назад +18

      how would we know if they covered their tracks so well? lmao

    • @aceofspades8634
      @aceofspades8634 Год назад +1

      @@maverickhuntersyd Well surely, if an imposter claimed to be the rightful heir to a throne, the monarch at the time wouldn’t just hand it to them lol. There would be records of conspiracy, support, rebellions, invasions, and if it got that far, then coronations and most likely executions as well…

    • @emilybenton6890
      @emilybenton6890 Год назад +6

      @@maverickhuntersyd dna!

    • @Luboman411
      @Luboman411 Год назад +32

      I believe the founder of the Song Dynasty in China in the 900s AD, one of the most glittering, sumptuous of Chinese imperial dynasties, was a pretender from the previous Tang Dynasty. He assumed command of armies and conquered huge swathes of Chinese lands as he kept pretending that he was the long, lost grandson of the last Emperor of China. He then went on to found a totally new dynasty that lasted a bit over 300 years, from 960 AD to 1279 AD. So he managed to hold on to power and secured the throne for himself and his descendants.

    • @aceofspades8634
      @aceofspades8634 Год назад +3

      @@Luboman411 Oh wow, thanks for the info! I’m definitely going to look that up!

  • @tanekalewis6872
    @tanekalewis6872 Год назад +22

    I would love to hear the story of an actual royal that was presumed dead and at some point was found later... please

  • @kinghenryviiiofengland4376
    @kinghenryviiiofengland4376 Год назад +36

    My father loved to deal with these pretenders…

  • @queenelizabethwoodville8285
    @queenelizabethwoodville8285 Год назад +29

    Oh my poor Princes in the tower.

  • @Falling2311
    @Falling2311 Год назад +4

    Actually, the family isn't buried together. The Russian Orthodox Church is "unconvinced" the remains are really Maria and Alexei - just like they were when DNA initially proved the first set of remains were the Romanovs. They won't allow Maria and Alexei to be buried with them. I can't find too many articles on it but the most current ones I found are from 2022 and they state Maria and Alexei haven't been laid to rest yet. I hope you'll add some sort of correction somewhere so people will know this still isn't over - the family is still not together laid to rest.

  • @tuikkur.5655
    @tuikkur.5655 Год назад +15

    Lambert Simnel was actually a pretender of Edward Plantagenet, earl of Warwick, who was the son of Edward IV's younger brother George and his wife Isabel Neville.
    The real Edward, earl of Warwick happened to be in the Tower of London under custody of Henry VII at the time, so Henry of course immediately knew, that Lambert Simnel was just a pretender. This was not the case with Perkin Warbeck, because there was no living Richard of York and no one knew what had happened to him.

    • @Jennifer_Lewis_Beach_Living
      @Jennifer_Lewis_Beach_Living 3 месяца назад +1

      I’m glad you mentioned that about Lambert Simnel. That is correct. He was the pretender of the Earl of Warwick, a child that Henry VII had locked in the tower because he had a stronger claim to the throne than Henry did.

  • @dsmplify3627
    @dsmplify3627 Год назад +6

    Poor Marie Thérèse, She was haunted by pretenders pretending to be her brother.

    • @barbarak2836
      @barbarak2836 Год назад +1

      I always thought it was something of a mixed blessing that she survived. She had to live with the memories of so much horror, not to mention all these imposters claiming to be her brother, some even threatening her.

  • @areiaaphrodite
    @areiaaphrodite Год назад +28

    Edward IV's brothers were snakes 🐍
    First there was George who kept betraying and conspiring against Edward for the crown until Edward had to execute him, and then Richard (allegedly) murdered Edward's sons and disinherited his surviving daughters. That's cold.

    • @LotusStitchandSketch
      @LotusStitchandSketch Год назад +1

      well TECHNICALLY if they WERE illegitimate as that one priest claimed Richard WOULD have been the rightful heir, regardless of how many children Edward IV had with his queen.

    • @areiaaphrodite
      @areiaaphrodite Год назад +8

      @@LotusStitchandSketch but they WEREN'T illegitimate. Richard just produced rather FLIMSY "evidence" that states that Edward had already been married to someone else... which was a LIE. Therefore, Edward's children were ALWAYS LEGITIMATE.

    • @LotusStitchandSketch
      @LotusStitchandSketch Год назад

      @@areiaaphrodite wasn't there a priest (BIshop Stillington I think his name was?) claiming that he'd made a contract with Eleanor Butler prior to marrying Elizabeth? AS I understand it according to the law of the time if a man or woman has a pre-contract of marriage to someone and then they marry someone else the second marriage is invalid because of the earlier precontract of marriage to the first person? So after having George executed that same priest was arrested and sent to the tower for a year and then kept his mouth until Edward was dead. if that's true then wouldn't they have illegitimate based on their father's precontract to marry Eleanor Butler? Seems odd that this priest would be locked up like that and Eleanor herself forced into convent if that were not true but I don't know for sure how that all worked back then I just had heard that in another video and that was supposedly why Richard was crowned King

    • @mariavi33
      @mariavi33 Год назад +7

      @@LotusStitchandSketch Eleanor died before Edward V and his brother were born, and the only requirements for a lawful marriage back then were that the couple announced that they were married and slept together. So even if Edward was married to Eleanor, only the first 2 of Edward IV and Elizabeth's children could be illegitimate (Edward V was their 4th and Richard duke of York was their 6th).

    • @hellsjamfleas
      @hellsjamfleas Год назад

      ​@@LotusStitchandSketchIt's worth barring in mind this was announced after the boys were locked in the tower, with their uncle in power.
      Just as this is one source claiming they were illegitimate (and he could be lying) there is a source claiming that the people saw this as an obvious lie.
      The fact that the also illegitemised Elizabeth of York was still seen as heir and marriage candidate even for foreign princes suggests that this was seen as a slander rather than truth.

  • @MegCazalet
    @MegCazalet 9 месяцев назад +2

    The book “Resurrection of the Romanovs” is divided into two parts, the real Anastasia’s life, then Franziska Schanzkowska’s life after she began her enigmatic metamorphosis into Anna Anderson. I think it’s amazing that the police had identified Franzisca within days, but she managed to fool so many people for decades. Of course, those who believed her were already inclined to, and had an incentive to, as well. So long as they kept the possibility of her being Anastasia alive in the minds of enough people, those who could get close to her would receive respect, fame, power, and influence among some exiled Russian nobles as well as the attention of a general populace fascinated by a good “fairytale come true”. And yet, the woman was so unpleasant to deal with, most of her supporters passed her on to the next rube after living with her; she just wasn’t worth it.
    She was still one of the luckiest woman imaginable, to have such unique physical characteristics of the real Anastasia. And, bless little Anastasia; without all these Pretenders, the youngest daughter and least significant of the Romanov children would’ve been a mostly forgotten teenage girl. But at the same time, to the real Anastasia’s detriment, her memory has been overtaken by myth. Either way, the real Anastasia gets lost.

  • @raphaelemartinat1352
    @raphaelemartinat1352 Год назад +4

    Lambert Simnel was first declared to be one of the Princes in the Tower before he was recognized as being the earl of Warwick (who was in Henry's custody and another Yorkist pretender)

  • @Itzduhhistorygirl
    @Itzduhhistorygirl Год назад +33

    Hey lindsay can you do royal scandals next since you are doing royal imposters
    That would be a great video 😃😃

  • @MarshalltonUMC792
    @MarshalltonUMC792 Год назад +12

    Thank you Lindsay. Another fascinating piece of history!

  • @jessicamorton6081
    @jessicamorton6081 Год назад +12

    Man, there were so many pretenders and some of them were just sick individuals trying to take money
    Nice video Lindsay

  • @simplyselina
    @simplyselina Год назад +2

    When I went to the Tower of London in 2018 they told us the story of the princes and where the bones were found in the staircase. Rip poor babies.

  • @roberthossen8354
    @roberthossen8354 Год назад +17

    Very interesting, never knew there were so many claimants to the various thrones. However, the last picture you showed is not the cathedral of St. Peter and St. Paul in Saint Petersburg, the Romanov Imperial mausoleum. That cathedral has a huge gilded spire.

  • @lot_tie
    @lot_tie Год назад +11

    One of the best history channels🎉
    Please do a video on final resting grounds for royals

  • @ak9989
    @ak9989 Год назад +4

    Love the videos! I enjoy history and especially royal history. I have 110 Victorian Campaign medals that have her portrait on them made of silver. It's amazing history. I even visited and toured the UK for over 2 months driving all over the country. I even out I am a Deveraux descendant.

  • @olyamereacre3326
    @olyamereacre3326 9 месяцев назад +2

    Bonnie prince Charlie and Mary queen of Scots were pretenders too

  • @frankchan4272
    @frankchan4272 Год назад +9

    I always joked that there something had very remote chance of happening that I had same chance of me becoming the king of England but I’m Chinese 😂

  • @justianowski
    @justianowski Год назад +4

    I was and still am obsessed with the story of Anastasia romanov. RIP

  • @PerfectlyImperfect93
    @PerfectlyImperfect93 Год назад +3

    Thank you Lindsay!💜

  • @oneminuteofmyday
    @oneminuteofmyday Год назад +4

    6:22 I just now got the Rocky and Bullwinkle joke. 😂
    Edited to add: My mother was very much into the whole Anastasia thing and read pretty much any book she found by and about people claiming to be her. I don’t think she truly believed that Anastasia had survived, but she thought Anna Anderson was very interesting and would be the one if it were found to be true. It was sort of a sad day when they identified Anastasia’s remains; no more mystery to wonder.

  • @kaloarepo288
    @kaloarepo288 Год назад +6

    The affair of the false Dmitri is the subject of one of the most spectacular of Russian operas -"Boris Godunov" by Mussourgsky -one of the great 19th Century Russian composers.

    • @ChibiProwl
      @ChibiProwl Год назад

      Yes. 😌I love The Hut on Chicken Legs and The Night on Bald Mountain, both by him.😌

    • @kaloarepo288
      @kaloarepo288 Год назад

      @@ChibiProwl Night on Bald Mountain became very well known when it was given very vivid cartoon treatment in Disney's "Fantasia I" and Mussorgsky also wrote "Pictures at an Exhibition" and also the opera "Khovantschina" also on Russian history : the Old Believers and their mass self immolation

    • @ChibiProwl
      @ChibiProwl Год назад

      @@kaloarepo288 Yep. I love Fantasia. His Pictures at an Exhibition are excellent as well.😌

  • @monical.r13
    @monical.r13 Год назад +6

    Can you do Usurpers next?????? I love the videos that span across multiple royal families

  • @ruyfernandez
    @ruyfernandez Год назад +4

    You killed me with "Anastasia"! 🤣🤣🤣

  • @ladysamxoxo
    @ladysamxoxo Год назад +13

    In regards to The Three False Dmitri's, if you haven't checked out Jack Rackam's video on the topic (or any of Jack's video's really), you should. It's hilarious.

  • @frankiebelle
    @frankiebelle Год назад +2

    Such a fascinating video. Nice work

  • @timpancakes2011
    @timpancakes2011 Год назад +2

    Such an interesting topic. Great video!

  • @marofontaine3913
    @marofontaine3913 Год назад

    This was fascinating! Wow 🤩. Great job , lady👍👍👏👏👏

  • @areiaaphrodite
    @areiaaphrodite Год назад +1

    Yay! I was waiting for a Royal Pretenders video!

  • @MarvelEnt5
    @MarvelEnt5 Год назад +2

    Couldn't pretend not to be excited.. NEW LINDSAY LET'S GOOOOO

  • @whatsaryn
    @whatsaryn Год назад +3

    My comfort channel is back at it again with another BANGER.

  • @Voronochka262
    @Voronochka262 Год назад +3

    So both Alexei and the last daughter have been placed to rest with the rest of their family now? Last I heard, they hadn't yet

  • @mikebowman4692
    @mikebowman4692 Год назад +2

    There's still a Lost Dauphin road in Wisconsin for Eleazor.

    • @jennyyuhasey2550
      @jennyyuhasey2550 Год назад

      There is also the Lost Dauphin State Park in De Pere, WI which is right on Lost Dauphin Road. The park is where Williams' house was.

  • @sfernando04
    @sfernando04 Год назад +2

    I totally love these videos ❤️⚜️

  • @3frenchhens818
    @3frenchhens818 Год назад +1

    I would be embarrassed as all get out to do something like that.

  • @MariahBunni
    @MariahBunni Год назад +1

    I love your videos Lindsay!

  • @ofeliasantoshistory
    @ofeliasantoshistory Год назад +3

    You’re my comfort RUclipsr. 🥺💕 I love binging your videos 💕💕💕💕

  • @veronicazazueta6755
    @veronicazazueta6755 Год назад

    Thank you. I very, very much enjoyed this video. 😊

  • @Sattva468
    @Sattva468 10 месяцев назад +1

    “They put his ashes in a cannon and shot him back home to Poland” 💀💀

  • @geofftab6224
    @geofftab6224 Год назад +2

    Thanks!

  • @HistoryandHeadlines
    @HistoryandHeadlines Год назад +6

    Which currently royal pretender would you most like to see ascend a throne?

    • @emilybarclay8831
      @emilybarclay8831 Год назад

      None of them, people who lie about being royals aren’t doing it out of philanthropy, they’re by definition power hungry and that’s never a good trait in a ruler. That, or they’re severely delusional, which, again, isn’t a good trait in a ruler

    • @lilymarinovic1644
      @lilymarinovic1644 Год назад +6

      It would be kinda cool to see the Romanovs back on the Russian throne and giving Putin the royal boot.

  • @valery5360
    @valery5360 Год назад +13

    "so for now the myster of the princes in the tower will remain..."
    me: "...unsolved???"
    "unsolved."
    if you get the reference you're cool

  • @Anna-mq4qr
    @Anna-mq4qr Год назад +3

    These video’s are so informative and shed a different light on the perception of royalty now and in the past. Thank you so much. Keep them coming!

  • @isabelgarrido6910
    @isabelgarrido6910 Год назад +1

    Do more of this videos, please! 😁 Every royal family has pretenders, so I guess there's space to do at least 1 more.

  • @shirleytrenche7852
    @shirleytrenche7852 Год назад +2

    Me whenever a notification that Lindsay posted: AHHHH! 🤗

  • @nataliapanfichi9933
    @nataliapanfichi9933 2 месяца назад +1

    @Historytea timewith LindsayHoliday your info make a mistake, Lampert didn't pretend to be one of the princes, he was posing Edward teddy of york , a cousin of the princes.

  • @abbybull1164
    @abbybull1164 Год назад +1

    This post has made my day!

  • @foIkIore13
    @foIkIore13 Год назад +4

    I love these videos Lindsay ❤️
    Keep it up! 🙂

  • @nikkishaaustin1731
    @nikkishaaustin1731 9 месяцев назад

    Your voice is so unique it makes the blogs come alive. Anastasia i always believed she survived.

    • @emilybarclay8831
      @emilybarclay8831 Месяц назад

      Her body was found at the location and DNA testing confirmed she read killed with the rest of her family

  • @manyagaver1946
    @manyagaver1946 Год назад +3

    There is a great opera based on the story of Boris Godunov

  • @mienafriggstad3360
    @mienafriggstad3360 Год назад

    👍👍 some of this information was new to me

  • @boyinblue.
    @boyinblue. Год назад +2

    I always feel bad for the children, they did not deserve what befell them.

  • @thesaltyelephant7980
    @thesaltyelephant7980 Год назад +1

    Hey so I know you have a video about minutes and seconds but I thought maybe a video dedicated to calenders would be cool, thanks for all the hard work 💜

  • @hallievonscheele5531
    @hallievonscheele5531 Год назад +1

    It is truly sick to pretend to be dead children.

  • @justkeyslowed7876
    @justkeyslowed7876 Год назад +2

    Fake it till you make it! Or not make it after all…

  • @mysticdragonwolf89
    @mysticdragonwolf89 Год назад +8

    My parents have told me I allegedly kept had nightmares as a kid (4-6) of a white basement, chairs, red paint, dust, and ceiling
    I had no clue, I vaguely remember the dream
    Till I saw a documentary of the Czar’s family and execution and the pictures of the basement almost 10 years later and the memory of the dream came back
    I’m not claiming to be anyone, but the vivid dream and seeing a place I had never seen before plus my absolute fear of guns (age 4-13 till I saw Lord of the Rings and my fear of weaponry flipped and I collect history weaponry as a hobby) to the point my mom gave up Star Trek and Star gate for my sake

  • @dandygirl6
    @dandygirl6 Год назад +1

    Lindsay you are an internet icon, I’d be lost without you legit

  • @technojunkie123
    @technojunkie123 Год назад

    Wow what a coincidence this video winds up in my inbox while I’m watching the Crowned Clown - a Korean drama about a lowly clown trying to hold on to power by pretending to be the real king!

  • @thecalicocat6657
    @thecalicocat6657 3 месяца назад +1

    I wonder why Maria and Alexis were buried elsewhere

  • @emmylackspur4791
    @emmylackspur4791 Год назад +1

    Look at me early for once!
    Great job once again Lindsay 👏

  • @craigrm74
    @craigrm74 Год назад

    The Church of England has no say over requests to open the urn reputed to contain the Princes in the Tower. Westminster Abbey is a 'Royal Peculiar,' under the jurisidiction of the Sovereign not the Church, so the monarch has the sole right to decide.

  • @Lili-en9dk
    @Lili-en9dk Год назад

    whenever I'm bored, I watch these history videos-

  • @tinas_hotdog_sophie
    @tinas_hotdog_sophie Год назад +2

    I always love this ONE portrait of Edward and Richard, and the other creeps me out the door. 🤣 The thrid one of them "sleeping" in bed is really cute but aren't historians unsure if it is meant to be them?

  • @jeraldbaxter3532
    @jeraldbaxter3532 Год назад +4

    Great-grandmother Anastasia promised me that throne, that and her favorite casserole dish!

  • @lokalnawrozka
    @lokalnawrozka 6 месяцев назад +1

    Oh my... killing the pronunciation of name Jerzy and saying Jersey 😂😂😂 it hurts

  • @ophelia4825
    @ophelia4825 Год назад +8

    Anastasia (1997) fans unite!

  • @3frenchhens818
    @3frenchhens818 Год назад

    What I get a kick out of is how, when ordinary people think they're royalty, they suddenly puff up and start swanning around being regal. That's embarrassing to watch. If you Google for pictures of Delores Costello and Prince Mdvani you can see some hilarious photos of this.

  • @cjinmalaragz
    @cjinmalaragz Год назад +1

    Happy to have commented on the first 5mins after the video is posted 😆 More power! 💜