What's My Line? - Xavier Cugat & Abbe Lane; Edward Mulhare [panel] (Jan 26, 1958)
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- MYSTERY GUEST: Husband and wife Xavier Cugat [orchestra leader] & Abbe Lane [singer]
PANEL: Dorothy Kilgallen, Edward Mulhare, Arlene Francis, Bennett Cerf
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In a Club where Cugat was playing with Charo ,between sets Cugat came to the Bar and sat next to me and struck up conversation . I offered him a Match for his Pipe ,but he said he did not smoke ,he said he was nervous and the Pipe gave him something to fiddle with . Not sure now of the time frame but not more than 3 weeks later I was in Cali. making the Audition rounds .Walking down the street I see on the other side Cugat and Charo ,and the Male Singer following behind who was in Cincinnati with him weeks previous ,so I crossed the street to speak to him ,he recognized me with a big smile ,and I said with great relief , Finally ,I have been all over the country looking for you ,short pause and he laughed his ass off ! This was 1967 . He seemed to be O.K. guy !
my goodness.. what a witty, spontaneous comment
I wish people in television still spoke this elegantly
I honestly dislike the pretentious way these people speak. They sound so stuck up they leave nose prints on the ceiling.
@@travis303 Well, I agree that the particular Tone they use is often condescending. I think that was a style of "theatrical speak" which was popular at that time.
But the actual language they used, the intelligence, humour and wit was wonderful and is greatly missed!
@@travis303 😃 nose prints !
@@aileen694 I just noticed my spelling error from a month ago when reading your comment, lol. Thanks for being civil in your reply.
Fbombs and gunshots are what I see when I watch tv these days.
Edward Mulhare was the very handsome and charming ghost in “The Ghost and Mrs. Muir” TV series from 1968-1970. When I was a preschool age child, watching that show, I had no idea how handsome he was!
He was a babe!
Me either. Loved that show!
Edward Mulhare is a darling man. So debonair!
a more elegant, eloquent man I have never seen. Sadly We shall not see his likes again.
He was probably great in My Fair Lady....probably put Rex Harrison to shame....he had that charm very few actors had. Always reminded me of a cross between Errol Flynn and Christopher Plummer with a Cary Grant charm.
@@mreunome I noticed the Errol Flynn similarity as well.
Edward Mulhare replaced Rex Harrison as Henry Higgins in "My Fair Lady" during its long Broadway run. I note that Rex Harrison played the ghostly Captain Gregg in the 1947 film "The Ghost and Mrs. Muir", and Edward Mulhare played the same role in the 1968 TV series of the same name.
ToddSF 94109 I just finished watching all the Ghost and Mrs Muir's recently. I used to watch that show in reruns when I was kid and I remember being just in awe and jealous that they can actually wear sweaters in SUMMER - an inconceivable thought in summer time Charleston, South Carolina! :) It also used to remind me of Nantucket - our escape from SC heat/humidity.
It was a show I always watched when it was a current broadcast and not in reruns. I was in high school when it was on. Then I saw the film starring Gene Tierney and Rex Harrison at some point on TV and got the original novel out of the library. They updated the story to the 1960's for TV and changed Mrs. Muir's first name from "Lucy" to "Carolyn" -- I suspect because Lucille Ball was still on television and "Lucy" meant her and no one else. The original story starts out in the early 1900's and the young widow falls in love with the captain's ghost. She grows old and dies at the end, probably in the late 1940's when the movie was made and she joins the captain for eternity. Also, the dramatic film takes place in England as the novel did -- the TV sitcom took place in New England. Still, the TV show was enjoyable.
+ToddSF 94109 I love details like that. Fun. Thank you. And what a unique coincidence.
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He’s so handsome
my god. how young edward mulhare looked :)
Look.its a.young Devin miles
@@karlisbrown8310 "Devon" Miles.
He looked especially handsome as the ghost in “The Ghost and Mrs. Muir” tv series!
I think it's funny Bennett and Edward had female agents and Arlene and Dorothy had male agents.
It is odd.
Thanks for uploading these episodes! So very entertaining!
This was great looks like fun great stuff.
That's the loveliest truck driver I ever laid eyes on.
Ed Mulhare played the ghost to Mrs. Miur with Hope Lang in the 60s.
That is how I know him and he was older then.
And with facial hair.
Very handsome!!
Lois Simmons beard was fake.
liberty Ann here he was 35, on TGAMM he was 45-48.
It’s a shame all of them are gone when you consider what he have now.
Edward Mulhare! So young!
Inviting the agents was a nice idea. And I enjoyed Bennetts face when he insisted that "I have no agent" :)
As john pointed out, he did not. She was just the booker of the Lecture agency that booked his lectures, but that is all.
Mulhare at the time I believe had taken over from Rex Harrison in the original Broadway production of "My Fair Lady".
Yes, and Mulhare did the TV Series The Ghost And Mrs. Muir while Harrison did the movie...
But where is Mrs. Muir, and Martha? Oops, eleven years too early ;-). Good actor!
Another great production. Poor Dorothy always seems to have such a faff untangling her blindfold! Someone please travel back in time and do something about it 😂
Abbe Cugat is so beautiful
Haha! Loved how John turned the cards over in a flash so that the truck driver lady could win! 🤣
John said that they had run out of time.
Edward Mulhare would be 100 years old if he were alive today. Abbe Lane is still living at 90 years old.
shes still alive 66 years later after this episode aired
Abbe Lane............GORGEOUS !
She was his wife before Charo
can't wait to view; I was a big fan, of "The Ghost & Mrs. Muir." I'm anxious, to see Mr. Mulhare, away, from his WONDERFUL 'Capt. Gregg' character portrayal.
why wouldn't they recognize their agent's voices?
i am not an actor and i have never had an agent but i assume i would be talking to him constantly, me telling him where i would like him to get me into, him telling me what he got me and why it would great.
I agree 100% kind of crazy🤘🏻
Maybe because of bad acoustics? Often they don't hear guests good enough.
And besides that, there were four people and they were masked. It must have been confusing experience.
I had the same thought especially since they did not seem to disguise their voices.
I think if you’re absolutely not expecting someone and your mind is on another track entirely, blindfolded and only getting monosyllables as answers, it would take a while to cotton on.
When I saw Mr. Mulhare, I thought it was Bud Collier! LOL. I didn't recognize him because of his youth. I just know him from THE GHOST AND MRS. MUIR and that silly movie OUR MAN FLINT.
Thank you
I see we have a new sponsor: Mutual of Omaha. Kinda nice to have a break from Remington/Stopette commercials. So....where is Marlon Perkins? He'd be a good contestant but, as far as I can tell, was never a guest on WML.
+Robert Melson I know you were kidding, but it got me to look it up anyway. At that point, he was the director of Chicago's Lincoln Park Zoo. (Became involved with Wild Kingdom & Mutual of Omaha in 1963.)
@@juliansinger Thanks for the info.
Another exciting edition, apart from the second round when I kept nodding off!
When is the last time you saw an American (USA) woman so beautifully dressed? Not is 2020!
Today. It’s a matter of personal taste.
@@igkoigko9950 Or, 'lack' of ANY taste!
Yoga pants at the grocery store is the norm, from what I have observed in 2023. UGH!
I can not comprehend how Dorothy figured out who the mystery guests were based on the questioning. I wonder if the panelists could hear the mystery guests when they are in conference or they hear some audience members. It does not seem that there was enough from the answers from the mystery guests to figure it out.
Perhaps, knowing them per4sonally or having interviewed them for her column would have done it. Some people are good at deciphering voices, no matter how they are disguised. Bennett was real good at guessing the mystery guests as well.
Dorothy had advanced skills in deduction strengthened by her investigative reporting.
Abby said that she was wife #6, and that he was extremely controlling and abusive, threatening to throw acid in her face if she left him. In her own words: ruclips.net/video/Jm-Y09UFo5A/видео.html
So if the agents earn 10% of the appearance fees paid to the panelists, was anyone entitled to 10% of the prize winnings of their agents?
Did anyone notice the misspelling in "ADMINISTERS ANASTHETIC [sic] (ANESTHESIOLOGIST)"? Whoever lettered that title card didn't discern that the first seven letters should be the same in both the second and third words . . . .
+ToddSF 94109 Yes, I noticed that to. But english isn't my first language and I wondered if there is the difference in writing right.
Edward Mulhare! Loved him in the Ghost and Mrs Muir (British movie)
Man oh man Knight Rider!!!
Devon Miles! 😀
I find Edward Mulhare wonderfully attractive and a brief search discovered he did not swing my way :( I don't think I've seen his work but he's delightful just being himself.
He was in ' Von Ryan's Express ' with Frank Sinatra and Trevor Howard. Excellent actor.
@gcjerryusc He and several others were very much in the closet. But wow, when you're that handsome and elegant, all sexes can enjoy him for the lovely man he was.
@gcjerryusc Hes been dead for 63 years
Was it "In Like ..." or "Our Man ..." with James Coburn "Flint" that Mr. Mulhare was both president and doppelganger?
@@sirbenjamin8315 Mulhare was the boss of KITT's driver in the Knight Rider. I don't think that was longer than 60 years ago, more like 40. After that show ended, he even took over for a lead actor in a detective show. I can't remember the name, but no not 63. I think Knight Rider was in the late '80's. It just seems that long since we've had decent TV shows! Ha, ha!
10% of A, plus 10% of B, plus 10% of C, plus 10% of D does not equal 40% of the combined total of A+B+C+D. It still only equals 10% of that total, allowing for some possible rounding error.
So the panelists were wanting 10% of the 40% to be split 4 ways, is that right?
I just saw a video with Abbe Lane badmouthing Cugat. WOW
I always like Abbe Lane s singing on TV. She performed on the Xavier Cugat Show during the 50 s. I only found out that the marriage was a mismatch. She exposed him.!!!! What else could she expect from an older popular and wealthy artist?? Anyway, she is happy now with her family. Happy for Abbe.
Wow , again.
@@fasteddie9055 how?
10:35 John seemed pissy at having to explain to Bennett, and Bennett noticed his pissiness.
edward mulhare looks just like somebody.....leslie howard?
genius mchaggis I had the same thought. Have you seen the 1938 British film of Pygmalion, with Leslie Howard as Prof. Higgins? Same role, of course, that Mulhare had in My Fair Lady on Broadway while Rex Harrison was playing the show in London.
i did NOT know that! about mulhare on broadway with it. yes ive seen the leslie howard Pygmalion...4O years ago. im not SURE its howard that mulhare looks like...itll come to me...
The fair, wavy hair is very Leslie Howard, but as I watched this episode I kept seeing Roddy McDowall in the face. HOWEVER, when I saw your comment, I went back and paid more attention, and you know what? I actually see some resemblance now and then between young Mr. Mulhare and the little boy who played Jonathan on The Ghost And Mrs. Muir! I looked up his name (Harlen Carraher) and some more photos, and I'll stand by that observation. And the Roddy McDowall stuff too.
I see that Xavier Cugat was married five times. Abbe Lane was married twice.
Who else guess Arlene's agents and got it right (I also got Bennett's)
Hal Simms is the announcer.
*_Agents For Panelists.......Anesthesiologist......Truck Driver For Newspaper._*
Clive. Kindly refrain from doing this.
I know they could have afforded to buy at least 1extra chair so that 2 guests didn't have to share a seat; things weren't that expensive in 1958. That's my only knock on this wonderful show.
Anesthesiologist self employed? Why did Daly flip all the cards over at 25 with no explanation? Illustration of why do not need to be an M.D., although should be: ruclips.net/video/Jh3XdZt2DAQ/видео.html
Edward Mulhare looks a lot thinner here. Looked better when older.
How could the anesthesiologist say that a degree wasn't required? Could you have been a doctor in 1958 without having gone to medical school? She said she goes by the title doctor.
Mr. Mulhare seemed pretty anxious to pass on many occasions.
Edward Mulhare, The Ghost and Mrs. Muir
the last contestant was really beautiful
A very interesting face, and a personable smile. Too bad her appearance was so rushed, but Arlene would have picked her off quickly regardless.
I get upset when the panel quickly guesses the line of someone who makes a pittance and who took effort making the preparations necessary to appear on wml.
Silly, but have always hoped they were paid something to appear as well as competing for the prize.
Dick Cavett mentioned that Dorothy Kilgallon poked pinholes in her mask to cheat!
I believe I read somewhere that the guests did receive payment in addition to anything they won, and if they needed to travel to appear on the show their expenses were paid.
If you listen to the announcer at the end, he mentions "If you are going to be in the New York Area...". That was (and I assume still is) pretty typical of just about any game show.
@@KJ-xc6qs Oh now Dick, really! 🙄
Where can you perform anesthesiology without going to school there was a misleading answer
thesilentdiva different times I’m sure. The American Medical Association cartel has a firm grip on the goings on of healthcare.
thesilentdiva - John Daly loved to let the panel get off on an incorrect path. However, I think there are probably no civilized places with an established medical profession where one would be permitted to perform the tasks of anesthesiology without a medical degree plus an internship and residency in the specialty plus a license in your locality. So, it is more than just an M.D. Yet, the question was posed could the work be done without the education/training. I think they probably answered yes it could because if you were in dire enough straits and I was all you had, I could always get you to drink enough booze to anesthetize you while someone else performed a tracheotomy to help you breathe or whatever. That is a bad example because you could not get the person drunk and achieve that. But, you get my drift. There are crude ways in which one could anesthetize someone to ease pain. Of course, this is one task of the anesthesiologist. They are the air traffic controllers of the operating room in that they keep the patient alive while everything else is happening to them, so the stress felt and concentration required are huge. It is not just making sure the patient does not experience pain.
@@philippapay4352 Yes, also Daly makes the point that someone without the specialist degree could do the task to a lesser extent. Application of a local anaesthetic for a minor procedure may not require a fully qualified anaesthetist.
@@zarabada6125 Back then I think there were no nurse anesthetists. You were a nurse or an M.D. who was an educated anesthesiologist as his branch of medicine with all the training and internship and residency and licensing that other specialties have. But there were I am sure some procedures that allowed medics or nurses to numb something, etc. To be an anesthetist has grown since those days, but you still in most civilized countries will have to see the anesthesiologist first before your surgery, outpatient or inpatient, for that doctor to design what your parameters were and meds had to be and then those are given to the nurse anesthetist to carry out in the operating theater. It is a field that has grown since then and differs depending upon the advancement within a specific culture.
@@philippapay4352 that's not true. A nurse anesthetist from Waco, TX was a guest on WML.
Back when Anesthesiologists did not need degrees? And when they were self-employed?
I actually don't like it much when they invite personal acquantances of the panelists to be the challenger. It almost seems like they do it because they ran out of real guests. The segment was also a snoozer.
Edward Mulhare 😍
The Ghost And Mrs Muir.
Ok…am I losing it? @ 10:25 Did John call Bennett's supposed agent, "Miss Skank" instead of "Miss Schenk"???????
It's a German name-- the "Sch" sound is pronounced "Sk".
I think Mr. Daly pronounced her name "skenk". Affter viewing a number of shows, I've come to the conclusion that Mr. Daly was coached before the show as to tbe proper pronunciation of each contestants name. For example in one show a Japanese pearl dive was one of the guests. He wrote his name using the formal Chinese characters, which Mr. Daly had "no problem" pronouncing in Japanese. Since a translator was necessary, I surmised that Mr. Daly does not actually know how to converse in Japanese.
By the way to the person posting tbese shows, thank you so much for doing so. While all I have to do is enjoy the fruits of your labor, I'm sure you must put a lot of effort into preparing each show for rebroadcast on RUclips. I truly appreciate your efforts, and enjoy each show.
During my time in the Army, I was stationed with an officer with that name (not sure of any relation) and she pronounced it "Skenk".
Gotta love that Dorothy K underbite.
TV show that is
Bennet Cerf. Talk about overrated.
Interestingly, both "Oh, Captain!" and "The Body Beautiful" flopped!
Comrade Mulhare comes across like the ultimate space cadet.
Wow , she was pretty !
What was up in the end when John said Mulhare gets to see My Fair Lady every day, and then Mulhare said I DON'T, but then a moment later said he got to see My Fair Lady, every night?
Richard Wielgosz Mulhare was playing Prof. Higgins and Sally Ann Howes played Eliza Doolittle that year on Broadway while Rex Harrison and Julie Andrews were performing the show in London. When you're in a show you don't really see all of it; sometimes you're changing costumes or just not in some scenes. But he did see his "fair lady" each night while they were on together, which is what I think he meant.
that is the way i took it.
Mr. Mulhare thought John was talking about the play, then realized he was talking about a person.
Perhaps he was focused on day vs night?
Did Daly ad lib all those long worded answers
Dave Arcudi of course. He doesn’t know what the panel is going to say. He was perfect for that show. Sounds very well educated.
Can you imagine scripting those?
Almost every word that came out of John's mouth was ad lib - he was reacting to what was happening on a live TV show. One of the reasons they considered him for the show in the first place was his ability to ad lib; he had a quick wit and was naturally funny, and could think on his feet, so to speak.
Interesting spelling: anasthetic and anesthesiologist.
I'm surprised that John mispronounced "anesthesiologist."
Why did the women ever bring their purses onstage with them?
In those days the purse was an important accessory to the outfit one was wearing.
Same reason any young woman needs a purse. Fem.supplies.
Maybe there were no lockers to leave their purses.
Nowadays it seems that "handbag" is used instead of "purse". In the 60's and 70's, the word I remember being used is "purse".
I skipped the first 'guest/s'. I dislike episodes where there are more than single guests or guests related in some way to the panelists.
Oh, I think the related-to-the-panel ones are fun!
Xavier seemed to smile a lot. Abbe seemed sorta snotty?
Xavier Cugat's smile only hid his extreme darkness. His popularity as a big band leader was beginning to go down due to the era of movie musicals slowly ending, while Abbe's career was taking off. He was jealous and possessive, as well as horribly abusive. He beat her senseless when she said she wanted out, to the point where she had to flee in the middle of the night with her mother out of fear for her own life. He tracked her down and repeatedly threatened to harm her with acid and kill her. If she looks uptight it was probably because she was terrified to be near him at all times. Abbe Lane is still alive at almost 90 and has spoken extensively about what it was like being married to such a monster.
francis did not know how to shut her mouth
I dislike segments where panel members' family members, friends, agents etc are the mystery guests
Take a look at around 5:21 Me-thinks Dorothy has been hitting the bottle already tonight. Her nose is redder than W.C. Fields! Party-on Dorothy!!! (yes she had a problem with that) moving on.....
Abbe Lane was a hottie! This show must have been 58 because that's when she co-starred with Tony Randall in "Oh Captain". Her recording contract wouldn't allow her to be on the original cast album so a woman named Eileen Rodgers sang her part on the record. Later she made a solo album with her voice. Bet there was a battle there! She and Xavier divorced in 64. Another battle, different story.
She did have a famous saying, "Jayne Mansfield may turn boys into men, but I take them from there"
Guys! Google her she was fine! Still alive at 81 as of now, Jan 30, 2014 at an un-godly hour in the middle of the night.
Abbe Lane was, indeed, one of the stars of OH, CAPTAIN! Other stars of the production included Tony Randall, Susan Johnson, Jacquelyn McKeever, Paul Valentine, Alexandra Danilova, Stanley Carlson - and Edward Platt, who replaced Abbe Lane's husband, Xavier Cugat, as the steward Manzini early in the rehearsal period, when Cugat was fired by director Jose Ferrer for unprofessional behavior. (Cf. Dennis McGovern and Deborah Grace Winer's excellent book SING OUT, LOUISE! The story was told by either Susan Johnson or by Tony Randall.) And Edward Platt (who would later play The Chief in GET SMART!) played Manzini quite well, as the original Broadway cast album attests.
By the way: OH, CAPTAIN! (music and lyrics by Jay Livingston and Ray Evans; book by Al Morgan and Jose Ferrer; directed by Jose Ferrer; sets designed by Jo Mielziner, costumes designed by Miles White; dances and musical numbers staged by James Starbuck) did open on Broadway at the Alvin Theatre on Tuesday, 4 February 1958, and ran for 192 performances on Broadway, closing on Saturday, 19 July 1958. For the last week of the show's run in July, Dorothy Lamour replaced Abbe Lane in the cast; those performances were Miss Lamour's first-ever in a Broadway show.
jmccracken1963 You have a more extensive library than I have. Thanks for the info!
She was still a hottie. lol
jmccracken1963 But OH, CAPTAIN! had a longer run on Broadway than THE BODY BEAUTIFUL, the other musical mentioned in this episode, which was actually co-produced by Richard Kollmar and his wife, Dorothy Kilgallen. The show had actually opened on Broadway at the Broadway Theatre on Thursday, 23 January 1958 - just 3 days before this episode of WHAT'S MY LINE? THE BODY BEAUTIFUL was directed by George Schaefer and choreographed by Herbert Ross; among the featured cast were Mindy Carson, Steve Forrest, Jack Warden, Barbara McNair, William Hickey, and Brock Peters. The show ran only 60 performances on Broadway (about 7 and a half weeks), so it would have closed in mid-March of 1958.
But the show wasn't a total waste. It was the first collaboration in a Broadway show for Sheldon Harnick (lyrics) and Jerry Bock (music), with a book by Joseph Stein and Will Glickman. The show's score captured the attention of director George Abbott and producer Hal Prince, who hired the songwriting team for their next project, the politically themed FIORELLO!, which proved to be a hit. And Hal Prince directed Harnick and Bock's next Broadway musical collaboration, SHE LOVES ME, which was a musical version of THE SHOP AROUND THE CORNER.
And, a couple of years after that, Harnick and Bock and Joseph Stein collaborated with Jerome Robbins on a musical based on a number of stories by Sholom Alecheim, and that collaboration was quite fruitful, I think: the MEGA-hit FIDDLER ON THE ROOF.
I agree that Abbe Lane is, indeed, very, very beautiful indeed here - and quite talented, too.
If you look up her biographical sketch on IMDB, you'll also get the joke in the Abbe Lane reference in the song "Spanish Rose" from the musical BYE, BYE, BIRDIE (the line is "I'll be more Espanol than Abbe Lane!") - the joke being that she is actually Jewish, born Abigail Francine Lassman in Brooklyn on 14 December 1932 (though she MIGHT have some Sephardic ancestry somewhere).
And, by the way, she has been married to her second husband, producer Perry Leff, for a little over 49 years. They married two days after her 32nd birthday, in late 1964 - just 6 and a half months after her divorce from Xavier Cugat.
jmccracken1963 Thank's for all the information. I really appreciate it.
Dorothy is aging here. She looks quite a bit older in 1958 than she did in 1956 or for most of 1957, when she looked similar to her appearance in the early years of the show.
Right because most people look exactly the same for their entire lives, so aging seems unusual, huh?
@@sirbenjamin8315 she appeared to age much more than most people do in a single year
Fred Ansell And Preppy sox, That could be but I dont see it. Extreme personal stress and its effect will do that to anyone. Dorothy always seemed fragile to me, despite her intelligence and spirit. Also, appearance can be dramatically altered with different makeup, lighting, camera angles, etc.
17:30 Beebe Gallini! 25:43 Edward Mulhare must have shot his load under the desk.
Abbe Lane was so hot. I'll never know what she saw in millionaire and established star Cugat.
winterlandboy you just answered your own question lol...& she was only one of several ladies he was "with"
winterlandboy stunningly gorgeous.
Hmmmm... she saw MONEY!!
Copyright Mrs Merton. :o)
@@jp0308 and developing her own career he's the stepping stone
Edward Mulhare’s agent tries to run the whole show!
Anestheologist? No it’s anesthesiologist. C’mon Daly.
I noticed that mispronunciation too, but thought "what the hell, it's hard to say under any circumstance. Before I commented, I read a long way down to see if anyone else had picked this up. Glad to meet you, Leo.
I was thinking that John started to say anesthetist & wound up saying anestheologist & thereby conflating the two words entirely! Certainly wasn’t the type of error that he’d be likely to ever make….IMHO.
Abbe Lane looks like a hostage. The man was hold enough to be her father. They should both be ashamed of themselves.
Foolish post. What has it got to do with you how old they are. Mind your damn business, I bet you are a bloody bible puncher.
18:38 " it's a girl"
Bennett Cerf was a great person and an excellent publisher but he was the worst panelist on the show. He almost never got a "Yes" on any question he asked.
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Love the show but John Daly talks too dang much. Like he talks just to hear himself. Sometimes practically gives the occupation away. He's the only part of the show I don't care for.
Fall Spring, I agree with you. He abandoned his first wife and family for a younger woman. His first wife was found dead after she had fallen down the stairs of her home. You can Google this and more. Very interesting.
I would like to know your source that he abandoned his wife for a younger woman. HIs second wife was younger. I just don't find any refrence to an abandonment. There was 20 months from the divorce to his marriage to Virginia Warren. HIs first wife, Margaret, was found dead at the bottom of the stairs. That was 7 years after the divorce. I am not trying to read into the statement, but, with as little info as you give then finishing with "very interesting" one could conclude by your statement of a possibility that the abandonment and death could be related. Pushed down the stairs to look like an accident. And yes. I have just spent way to much time on Google trying to find something about the abandonment. That is why I have all this info that I just posted. So maybe +gcjerryusc and anyone else may not have to destroy the image they had of John. And maybe they should. The reason I am asking for some help here for your source.
On one show I watched last wk, one of the panel mentioned a show about a man killing his wife. John cut that off quickly and said something like No, we won't; I've had enough trouble. Didn't know what it meant but you'll see the show sometime.
He and his first wife were divorced but that's all the details we have - we don't know which of them initiated the divorce, what problems they might have had, how happily married they were, etc. His kids were all grown except one teenager when the divorce happened, and he still spent time with them - after his second marriage he still talked about things he'd been doing with his children, etc. We have absolutely no way of knowing any details and there's no proof whatever of abandonment.
I agree. Check out the pissy look on John's face at 10:35 when he explained to Bennett about Bennett's agent.
Apparently losing your memory because of too much anesthesia is a thing