This is a perfect example of why both Arlene and Miss Dorothy were so good at guessing the profession. They listened to the information and processed it. Many times, other panelists didn't bother to listen to the information being conveyed.
It would stand on it’s own. If you sat it on the ground, it would remain upright on its own. John Daly was correct. And it’s a candlestick - the holder of the candle, not the candle itself.
The attention given to Princess Margaret's wedding is sad in retrospect because it ended in divorce and she, the Queen's sister, being rumoured to have lots of affairs, drink and cigarettes. I never heard of her being called Princess Meg as in the caption. The baker who made the wedding cake came from Morecambe, a seaside resort in Lancashire that is often overshadowed by Blackpool to the south. Good for him to put Morecambe on the map!
Wrong! Anita Gillette was a panel member on several episodes in the 1970s and particularly on the last episode of What's My Line taped in 1974, and she is still alive at age 87. Alan Alda was a panel member on some episodes of the show, and he is still alive at age 87. Elaine Joyce was a panel member on some episodes of the show, and she is still alive at age 87. Ruta Lee was a panel member on some episodes of the show, and she is still alive at age 88. Dana Valery was a panel member on some episodes of the show, and she is still alive at age 79.
Steve Lawrence was a panelist as well as mystery guest. He's 88 years old and made a statement a while ago that he has Alzheimer's. I think he had an amazing singing voice along with eydie gorme. They were very polished and professional. I wish him well.
@@sophiemorrison9820 I'm glad to hear that Steve Lawrence is still with us, but I'm sorry to hear that he has Alzheimer's. Both Steve and Eydie were great singers. I remember fondly their appearances on the Carol Burnett show when I was growing up.
@@leesher1845 - Arlene was right, given my recent experiences in the Texas almost week long power outage in February of 2021. I had to burn numerous candles and because I didn't really have anything TO PUT THEM ON, couldn't find any candlestick holders, I had a mess to clean up once we had our power back.
The only thing that I could think of was that candles can be carried, especially when thin king of a Christmas Eve church service and the people hold candles singing "Silent Night". Also candle can be on a wall sconce, but I believe this would be covered by Arlene's question.
Everybody’s handwriting was so beautiful. With the baker, they asked if there is no animal products, they said no, but what about eggs, milk, honey, butter?
They said no to Mr. Cerf's question as to whether it had ever been alive but no to Dorothy's statement clarifying that it had no animal products in it, meaning it did contain animal products. A baker with 1,100 baking awards in Britain should know something about eggs and milk, imho.
"A support or holder for one or more candles, typically one that is tall and thin. Synonyms: candle holder, candelabra, menorah, flambeau, sconce..."a pair of brass candlesticks"
You do put it on something, a candle holder or whatever. It can't stand up by itself unless it's those fat ones but still you stand the fat ones on something.
I love this show. Could you please tell us what connection your grandfather had on this show as well as anything you can remember hearing Thank you kindly
Usually WML did not indulge such obvious gimmicks as this one. The year before this gimmick, WML did a show of twos culminating with "The Sound of Music" children. Gil Fates's book on WML featured a chapter about "owls" -- WML jargon for new or minor entertainment celebrities not instantly recognizable. Fates gave as one of his owl examples Dick Van Dyke in the late 1950s when Goodson-Todman used him in some of its game shows. 2 years later he was instantly recognizable.
Cathi Shaner She was not beautiful by normal standards, she had nearly no chin and lower jaw. Nevertheless she had really some pretty features (eyes and eyebrows).
Celisar1 Who’s normal standards? Beauty may scientifically and culturally be quantifiable, but I find that very boring. Physical appearance is meaningless .. I want to see the soul in your eyes. Everyone is beautiful. My opinion. Be well. 💕🐝
The women's clothes from the fifties and even the sixties were really someting! Flowered hats, crinoline underskirts, and gussoies of every sort. Oh, yes==gloves.
Yes, exactly. We don't have stewardesses, comediennes or male nurses. We have flight attendants, comedians and nurses, as it should be. Now if we could get rid of actresses (well, you know what I mean).
I agree with Arlene - she should have been given a Yes & John splitting hairs was (unintentionally) misleading. Of course you place candlesticks on something; tables, fireplace mantels, end tables, etc.
He was a comedic actor, singer, and dancer. Looking “smart” was not what he was paid to do. In his later murder mysteries he was pretty much always the smartest person in the room.
I wondered about that but maybe American homes then had telephones attached to the wall with some sort of a cover over them? We didn’t even have a telephone! 🤣
I would see Dorothy come out and about half the time her waist was not that small, forgetting that during the time she was on the show she also was having children, I believe 3 ?
First, Bennett noticed the pattern, but didn't pursue it. Second, he got hosed - a candle is consumable - he uses that term often, and it applies here.
Arlene doesn't have her heart necklace on. I will have to pay attention to the episode dates so as to figure when she started wearing it. Will let you know!
Reminiscent of a tall, handsome young Eleanor Roosevelt and very loquacious. Thought maybe she was a politician or entertainer during her banter with Mr. Daly.
As much as I love Dick Van Dyke, this game was not his strength. However, he was great in this 1959 spoof with Art Carney: ruclips.net/video/KF1UsdzvJP8/видео.html
Sometimes it is odd how Arlene looks at the dress the contestant is wearing as they walk away. Wondering why no one didn't tell her that it looks odd to see her do that.
The panelist on the far left almost always watches the guests leave. It has been guessed it is because there are tripping hazards between the end of the desk and back stage.
With absolutely NO racist overtones intended, I wonder whether Mrs. Betty Rode (the butcher; also the first contestant on this episode of WHAT'S MY LINE?) was a light-skinned black woman? Just curious.....
jmccracken1963 I can see why you wondered about that. I like to guess the ethnicity of people as well. It is so fascinating how different humans can look despite being so similar in every other respect.
You and about six other commenters here ought to pool your life savings, go in on a time machine, go back to 1960 and give everybody a good scolding. But don't bother taking your cellphones----no WiFi back then.
Wow you’re real intelligent I bet you’re a great conversationalist do you know what the word obtuse means? That would be you and your entire democrat liberal defund police tear down the border wall idiot party, trump 2020 landslide just deal with it Neanderthal
I can't believe no one guessed it by picking up on Mr. Cerf's clever deduction after both the butcher and the baker.
Mr. John C Daily n Mr B Cerf total n complete gentleman at all times
That's because we used to teach our children respect.. honor..
Dorothy looking quite beautiful in this one.
So wonderful to watch these shows.
haha! A butcher, a baker, and a candlestick maker...clever! :)
My dad was a baker, and a good one.
This show was a little before my time, but I think I have heard of every mystery guest until this one. I had never heard of Gertrude Berg.
Star of "The Goldbergs" of the 1950s.
Van Dyck still with us in 2024 …
With a very high probability that he is the only remaining 😮living person in the theater
This is a perfect example of why both Arlene and Miss Dorothy were so good at guessing the profession. They listened to the information and processed it. Many times, other panelists didn't bother to listen to the information being conveyed.
And Arlene was robbed. John was incorrect about a candle not standing on anything.
I think some of this is rigged in someway
It would stand on it’s own. If you sat it on the ground, it would remain upright on its own. John Daly was correct. And it’s a candlestick - the holder of the candle, not the candle itself.
Uh s@annhutcheson5770
"The Goldbergs" with Gertrude Berg, is a show worth watching.
The attention given to Princess Margaret's wedding is sad in retrospect because it ended in divorce and she, the Queen's sister, being rumoured to have lots of affairs, drink and cigarettes. I never heard of her being called Princess Meg as in the caption. The baker who made the wedding cake came from Morecambe, a seaside resort in Lancashire that is often overshadowed by Blackpool to the south. Good for him to put Morecambe on the map!
Bakers, in my mind, perform a very necessary service. Probably, with my own dietary practices, I have sent many bakers' children to college.
What a classy group.. sad those type people are so hard to find.
Not in these times.
Love these shows
I heart Dick Van Dyke!
Dick Van Dyke is the only panel member still alive. From ANY show. Not just this one.
Wrong!
Anita Gillette was a panel member on several episodes in the 1970s and particularly on the last episode of What's My Line taped in 1974, and she is still alive at age 87.
Alan Alda was a panel member on some episodes of the show, and he is still alive at age 87.
Elaine Joyce was a panel member on some episodes of the show, and she is still alive at age 87.
Ruta Lee was a panel member on some episodes of the show, and she is still alive at age 88.
Dana Valery was a panel member on some episodes of the show, and she is still alive at age 79.
Steve Lawrence was a panelist as well as mystery guest. He's 88 years old and made a statement a while ago that he has Alzheimer's. I think he had an amazing singing voice along with eydie gorme. They were very polished and professional. I wish him well.
@@sophiemorrison9820 I'm glad to hear that Steve Lawrence is still with us, but I'm sorry to hear that he has Alzheimer's. Both Steve and Eydie were great singers. I remember fondly their appearances on the Carol Burnett show when I was growing up.
I could watch this night and day - and I do .... (By the way: Arlene was right with her assumtion the candlestick can be put on something)
She was absolutely correct. I don’t know what John Charles Daley (Daly?) was thinking.
@@leesher1845 - Arlene was right, given my recent experiences in the Texas almost week long power outage in February of 2021. I had to burn numerous candles and because I didn't really have anything TO PUT THEM ON, couldn't find any candlestick holders, I had a mess to clean up once we had our power back.
The only thing that I could think of was that candles can be carried, especially when thin king of a Christmas Eve church service and the people hold candles singing "Silent Night". Also candle can be on a wall sconce, but I believe this would be covered by Arlene's question.
she's right. you put it not only on something, always, but in something as well. love arlene
Everybody’s handwriting was so beautiful.
With the baker, they asked if there is no animal products, they said no, but what about eggs, milk, honey, butter?
Even though it is a meat, eggs were at that time called “dairy”.
They said no to Mr. Cerf's question as to whether it had ever been alive but no to Dorothy's statement clarifying that it had no animal products in it, meaning it did contain animal products. A baker with 1,100 baking awards in Britain should know something about eggs and milk, imho.
@@alansorensen5903 no they didnt
My 11th birthday the night this show aired.
I was born on this day. 58 years ago
So was my cousin Rick in 1948, from cousin Bill!
Happy Birthday! 👍
And not to try to win the contest, but this aired the very day I was born :)
I wasn’t.
Irene Francis very Beautiful lady n mrs D Kilgannin as well I truly miss all these delightful persons
It’s Arlene not Irene and Kilgallen not Kilgannin. You really must try harder. 👨🎓
Dorothy is beautiful today & Arlene is always attractactive.
"Drunk" is the proper conjugation of the verb "to drink.
Arlene had every right to be indignant. A candlestick doesn't stand on its own, it has to be put in a candlestick holder.
Actually, a candlestick is the object that holds the candle....remember, he works at a brass company
"A support or holder for one or more candles, typically one that is tall and thin. Synonyms: candle holder, candelabra, menorah, flambeau, sconce..."a pair of brass candlesticks"
Craig Calman - Or on a desk or table, for crying out loud.
Arlene's objection highlights the fact that panelists often get stuck on irrelevant questions. Better to light a candle than to curse the darkness.
You do put it on something, a candle holder or whatever. It can't stand up by itself unless it's those fat ones but still you stand the fat ones on something.
Yes, we all read John O'Hara in high school.
CLASSIC 😎🔥
The butcher, the baker, and the candlestick maker. lol
Its so crazy to see my own grandfather on this show, shaking hands with these old celebrities. Those $50 are probably in my college savings!
Please tell, who is your grandad, whats his story?
I love this show. Could you please tell us what connection your grandfather had on this show as well as anything you can remember hearing
Thank you kindly
Arlene looks as beautiful too.
Bennet figures out the clue and guesses the occupation of the third regular guest well ahead of the game at 14:25.
Right? Yet even knowing that he doesn’t go back to that
Dorothy looks really pretty
Wow the cake maker should have given some tips since he won 1,100 awards.
A lot of the contestants were tall, the men and the women. Mr. Daly said he was 6 feet 1 and some were taller or very near his height.
"Skip it." (4:51) Boy, oh, boy you got that right Bennett.
Arlene was 100% right about candlesticks. Sometimes I wonder about John Charles Daley’s synapses.
Bennett Cerf should've went with his earlier instincts again, on the Candlestick Maker joke...........lol!
Anthony Kardoes Funny how John was able to not tip the later surprise and kept his cool when Bennett mentioned the candlestick maker.
Usually WML did not indulge such obvious gimmicks as this one. The year before this gimmick, WML did a show of twos culminating with "The Sound of Music" children.
Gil Fates's book on WML featured a chapter about "owls" -- WML jargon for new or minor entertainment celebrities not instantly recognizable. Fates gave as one of his owl examples Dick Van Dyke in the late 1950s when Goodson-Todman used him in some of its game shows. 2 years later he was instantly recognizable.
Dick Van Dyke did a good job too!
Dorothy looks SMASHING here. When there was effort put into it she could look very beautiful. She looks healthy here too.
She was beautiful every time ... some people fail to appreciate all
Cathi Shaner
She was not beautiful by normal standards, she had nearly no chin and lower jaw. Nevertheless she had really some pretty features (eyes and eyebrows).
Celisar1 Who’s normal standards? Beauty may scientifically and culturally be quantifiable, but I find that very boring. Physical appearance is meaningless .. I want to see the soul in your eyes. Everyone is beautiful. My opinion. Be well. 💕🐝
@@amazinggrace5692 YES! Thank you.
John fixed Bennett in this one.
The women's clothes from the fifties and even the sixties were really someting! Flowered hats, crinoline underskirts, and gussoies of every sort. Oh, yes==gloves.
Ty
I think in those days the term lady was nore commonly used in reference to a woman.
LOL! Just got the joke-a Butcher, a Baker, and a Candle Stick maker! :D
Quite an outfit that lady butcher is wearing, wouldn't you say?
Her hairdo!!!..wow😐
The lady butcher looked great. Love her dress.
"A lady butcher," or, as we call it in 2013, "a butcher."
Yep. That was an old term, like 'Male' Nurse.
Yes, exactly. We don't have stewardesses, comediennes or male nurses. We have flight attendants, comedians and nurses, as it should be. Now if we could get rid of actresses (well, you know what I mean).
Arlene: Meet me outside.
She was absolutely right. See my other contribution. Dang.
I agree with Arlene - she should have been given a Yes & John splitting hairs was (unintentionally) misleading. Of course you place candlesticks on something; tables, fireplace mantels, end tables, etc.
Hey Arlene's turn with cakemaker edited out...footage lept to DVD🎩
it ain't no odd to look at nobody's clothin! either the clothin is adorable or despicable. and that's that!!
Did you just recently learn English ? That sentence makes no sense.
She got married on May 6.
The sexism of the day. “Lady butcher “.
I want that vacuum .
I always thought it was June. Guess I was wrong.
At what point in DvD's career does he ever look smart, and not the fool in the room?
At the Bank.
He was a comedic actor, singer, and dancer. Looking “smart” was not what he was paid to do. In his later murder mysteries he was pretty much always the smartest person in the room.
@@donlove3741 That response gave me a smile, thanks :)
Arline. You win. The host is not always right.
And the candle stick maker was missing a few candles.. Not that bright.
He did not make candles. He made candlesticks, which hold the candles and are not consumed.
Guessed right though.
Dorothy asked if a candlestick was bigger than a telephone booth and she got a no. WTF
I wondered about that but maybe American homes then had telephones attached to the wall with some sort of a cover over them? We didn’t even have a telephone! 🤣
I would see Dorothy come out and about half the time her waist was not that small, forgetting that during the time she was on the show she also was having children, I believe 3 ?
Dan Celli
As far as I know she had only one child while the show aired originally- her youngest son.
@@Celisar1 incorrect. Two of her children were on the show together WHILE their mother was in the hospital ... Having given birth to child 3.
She wasn’t paid fir her waistline but for her brain, which was impressive.
@@gilliankew - But, dang it, her waistline was too.
First, Bennett noticed the pattern, but didn't pursue it. Second, he got hosed - a candle is consumable - he uses that term often, and it applies here.
The man makes candlesticks, not candles. Candlesticks hold the candles.
Arlene doesn't have her heart necklace on. I will have to pay attention to the episode dates so as to figure when she started wearing it. Will let you know!
I think her necklace is hiding it.
I think the same as Llyn Gibson. I have seen it hidden under necklaces before.
I would really like one of those but I guess real diamonds would break the bank 😥
This aired the day of my dad's birth!!! :D
So the lady butcher had a side hustle modeling.
I saw Dick in Bride on Broadway Wonderful show
I saw him in Mary Poppins … abysmal.
Arlene can see 17:40
I didn't notice.
You know, they never had an undertaker on.....would have been great...but that never would go over w the refined wml crowd back then
That was the custom at that time. Live with it.
Ok, but we don't have to "live with it" now.
Arleen is so hot here.
And, unlike you, she can spell her own name correctly.
@@LANCSKID Shut up wise ass.
A lady butcher 😂❤She was quite charming.
No. She can't.
"Solid and stiff", "come come Dorothy". Yikes!
A tall gal butcher...:)
Reminiscent of a tall, handsome young Eleanor Roosevelt and very loquacious. Thought maybe she was a politician or entertainer during her banter with Mr. Daly.
Princess Margaret was married in June of 1960 was she not?
From Wikipedia: "They were married on May 6, 1960, in the first royal wedding to be televised."
As much as I love Dick Van Dyke, this game was not his strength. However, he was great in this 1959 spoof with Art Carney: ruclips.net/video/KF1UsdzvJP8/видео.html
Sometimes it is odd how Arlene looks at the dress the contestant is wearing as they walk away. Wondering why no one didn't tell her that it looks odd to see her do that.
The panelist on the far left almost always watches the guests leave. It has been guessed it is because there are tripping hazards between the end of the desk and back stage.
She seems to be looking at the ground
With absolutely NO racist overtones intended, I wonder whether Mrs. Betty Rode (the butcher; also the first contestant on this episode of WHAT'S MY LINE?) was a light-skinned black woman? Just curious.....
She was from the same town that I'm in. She's was a white woman. She passed in 2009.
jmccracken1963
I can see why you wondered about that. I like to guess the ethnicity of people as well. It is so fascinating how different humans can look despite being so similar in every other respect.
Really one of the heaviest pieces of neckwear I ever saw Arlene wear. How does she avoid toppling over?
I must be too young!!! Don't know who Gertrude Goldberg is???😮
You'll get over it.
I had an uncle who would eat candles after they came out of the cake, all covered in cake and frosting.
😨😨😳
John Charles Patrick Croghan Daly was an African-American.
He was born in South Africa: Johannesburg.
@@RonGerstein
Laugh a little. He was African-American.
She's a Butcher. 'Lady Butcher' is a term that is obsolete , like a 'Male' Nurse.
At that time it was the convention to do that and thus not obselete
You and about six other commenters here ought to pool your life savings, go in on a time machine, go back to 1960 and give everybody a good scolding. But don't bother taking your cellphones----no WiFi back then.
When he said it it wasn’t
A lady butcher 😂❤
absolute nonsense. it's a wonder how you people get dressed in the morning.
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mrdetroitnews gary - I hate to see WML infiltrated by trumpist ignoramuses. Can't you leave this program alone?
Shirley Rombough Leave me alone leave my beautiful President alone and leave this great country aloneTrump 2020 landslide
Joe Biden, ha ha ha ha ha ha
@@MrDetroitnews Trump's an asshole, like you!
Wow you’re real intelligent I bet you’re a great conversationalist do you know what the word obtuse means? That would be you and your entire democrat liberal defund police tear down the border wall idiot party, trump 2020 landslide just deal with it Neanderthal