What's My Line? - Ralph Bellamy; Ricardo Montalban [panel] (Jan 19, 1958)
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- NOTE: There's a brief glitch at 20:58 where a bit of film of Dorothy from after the mystery guest segment is over appears before the questioning round is over. It appears to have been a mistake in the film itself. Try not to get thrown by it, it only last a few seconds.
MYSTERY GUEST: Ralph Bellamy [film actor]
PANEL: Arlene Francis, Ricardo Montalban, Dorothy Kilgallen, Bennett Cerf
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I was confused when they said his job was federal at first, and then the lightbulb went on. Alaska didn’t become a state until the following year. This show always keeps our brain cells active!
"I think Alaska would indeed make a nice 49th state." Mr. Daly spoke interesting historical words I've never heard before. Very nice!
Just another reminder of how old I am getting. I was barely 15 months old when this episode was broadcast -- which is a reminder that when I was born there were only 48 states in the Union.
I was in grade school when Alaska and later Hawaii became states!!! Then there were 50 states!!!
@@briane173 I am aged but wasn't born yet when this was broadcast. However, in the UK in my childhood we thought that America was John Wayne, etc. 😉😂
@@jwsuicides8095 So did we LOL
He once said the same re Hawaii after returning from vacation or assignment ..
RIP Governor Stepovich, thanks for your service to the state of Alaska.
Such class. Wow! This is definitely missing in today's tv. Thank you.
It sure is…
That Dorothy Kilgallen was so smart.
I don’t know why they always told The panelists where the contestants were from because that could be a major hint.
Those panelists were really smart.
Ricardo Montalban did a good job and asked some very good questions.
It is interesting to hear about the Salk vaccination in its early days of polio eradication. We debate the efficacy of vaccinations because we don't remember that people died or were being crippled in those days. Also- I look for Ricardo Montalban in anything I can find. What a suave and personable man. He gave the best clues so that the other panelists could win the answers.
He was a good dancer, I recently learned.
Me too. You always get your money's worth with Mr Montalban.
I don't see people worrying about the efficacy of traditional vaccs but about acknowledging and ameliorating the damage they do.
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I love it when Dorothy is closing in on a guest's job!
Beautiful speech Ralph Bellamy gave about The March of Dimes and its purpose
I love it when a panel member is brave enough to take 'a stab in the dark' when trying to identify the mystery guest or a person's line. Mr Montalban was wrong in his guess but nevertheless a very sharp and thoughtful panellist - it takes courage to look a little foolish when being wrong but it makes the show more lively and suspenseful. I wish he had appeared more often. Somebody in these comments has a vendetta against Martin Gabel as a panel member. I like his deep, rumbling voice which, from such a small man, is surprising. He must have trained his voice for long, repetitive hours to produce that deep, velvet tone. Film actors don't do that but Mr Gabel was a stage actor who needed voice projection and clear diction to carry his audience, and it shows.
I didn't know people were against Martin Gabel in comments. Yes, he has a beautiful voice. Many techniques for maintaining and fully utilising a voice aren't taught in the same way. Stage actors are now often mic-ed up and there's a lot of "sloppiness" with diction. I realise I'm sounding like an old fart. Some actors do have the craftsmanship to work within different outlets and preserve their voices but I've seen so many well-known actors completely hoarse during a stage run even with mics...it's not necessary. That's my moan ended. Lol.
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When the governor said yes to the federal government question, I briefly thought he misspoke and then I saw the date.
Not only that, he was appointed directly by the president!
I had a feeling that the future star of Fantasy Island and Star Trek's very own Khan would fit in on the WML panel. I was so right! Such a shame he never appeared again. :( That's a loss. It would have been nice to see him in the rotation with Tony, Buddy, Martin and of course Steverino at least a few more times.
M. M. - I agree. His questions were intelligent and his manners were appropriate.
Mr Daly could not pronounce Mr Montalban's name correctly. He kept chopping off the end. Annoying.
Strange brief artifact of an unmasked Dorothy Kilgallen saying how wonderful Ralph Bellamy is, then a moment later she's got the mask on again and no one knows who he is. Small glitch. I appreciate how difficult it's been for you to reassemble these episodes from undated segments. Thanks for your work.
Wow-- you're right. Somehow I never noticed this (I'm often doing other things while I watch these shows). Just to be clear though, I'm only re-assembling shows in very, very rare cases. I almost always have complete shows to work with. The editing I do is generally only required to remove commercials. I don't know what happened with this, but by the choppy look of the film around this point, I'm guessing it's a mistake in the original film. Thanks for pointing it out. I added a note to the description.
What's My Line?
"Just to be clear though" -- Clearly, John Daly is rubbing off on you! ;)
His moderating talents, that is. (Btw, I have noticed that there must be a way to edit your own comments on RUclips, since some posts here are listed as "edited," but I can't figure out how to do it. Can anyone explain the process?)
SaveThe TPC I think it depends on whether you're posting via a RUclips or a Google+ account. Also, what day of the week it is, and whether it's high or low tide. I defy anyone out there to explain *anything* about the bug-riddled comments system,
In my case, there's always a drop-down list you can click on in the upper right corner of your comment, one choice listed is to edit.
SaveThe TPC Just hover the mouse straight over the word "edit" ;)! in your comment, and click at the "point". This is only possible to do with your own comments, others will show a "sign" for reporting spam.
Ralph Bellamy still had that strong, booming voice 20-30 years later (Trading Places, Pretty Woman).
Bennett had been to so many book signings in little towns he seemed to know their basic information.
This episode was a lot of fun - and it appears that all three contestants (Mike Stepovich, Sue Kraft, and Ralph Bellamy) have a great time on the show. And so does Ricardo Montalban, in what turned out to be his only appearance on the show. (He never appeared, before or after this, as a Mystery Guest, and he never appeared again as a guest panelist, either.)
jmccracken1963
That's a shame. I thought he was quite good as a panelist.
Better than many
Mike Stepovich, Territorial Governor of Alaska at the time of this episode, was on WML as part of the promotion of Alaskan statehood. He had the distinction of being the first appointed governor of Alaska to be born in Alaska (in Fairbanks on March 12, 1919) although he was raised in Portland (OR) by his mother and grandfather after his parents divorced when he was 6 months old. His parents were both Montenegrin, among many of that origin who came to Alaska during the gold rush. Mike's father was a miner. His speech patterns likely reflect his heritage.
He also has the distinction of being the governor of Alaska when Alaska was granted statehood and the last appointed governor of the Territory of Alaska. He was appointed by President Eisenhower and he took office on June 5, 1957. He resigned his position when statehood was granted but before it became official to run unsuccessfully for one of the U.S. Senate seats from Alaska. The first voting Senators from Alaska were Bob Bartlett who had served as a non-voting delegate to Congress starting in 1945 and remained in the Senate until his death in 1968, and Ernest Gruening who served until 1969, having been defeated in the 1968 Democratic Party primary and losing a bid for reelection as an independent. Bennett mentions Gruening as a predecessor to Stepovich as Territorial Governor of Alaska. He served from 1939 to 1953. Bartlett and Gruening were both strong proponents of Alaska statehood. Stepovich lost to Gruening as there had to be two separate contests since U.S. Senators serve in 6-year staggered terms.
When Stepovich resigned as territorial governor, he was succeeded by the Lieutenant Governor, Waino Hendrickson. It was the second time that Hendrickson was elevated to the governorship by virtue of succession as the lieutenant governor. He was the first native-born territorial governor of Alaska, but Stepovich was the first one appointed by the President. Since there would be a new governor five months later, the first to be elected by the people of Alaska (William Egan), Eisenhower apparently saw no need to appoint another governor.
While returning to his law practice in Fairbanks after losing in the 1959 Senatorial election, Stepovich continued in Alaskan politics for a few years. He was part of the successful effort to prevent the state capital from being moved to Anchorage from Juneau. He had a narrow loss in 1962 for the governorship against the incumbent, Egan. And then he lost to Wally Hickel in the 1966 Republican primary for governor.
Mike and his wife, the former Matilda Baricevic (from the Portland, Oregon area) were quite busy away from politics. Their marriage produced 13 children. Their daughter Nada married former NBA star and Hall of Fame member, John Stockton. Stockton and his father-in-law are both graduates of Gonzaga University in Spokane (WA).
A link to a photo of John Stockton and Nada Stepovich:
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Ralph Bellamy would play FDR again years later in "The Winds of War".
He was far too old then, but was still a great performance.
He had a wonderful career, often playing the clueless schook. Yet he had range. 50 yr career.
He was a great character actor and was still performing well into his 80’s. Who can forget his memorable supporting roles in Pretty Woman and Trading Places.
Governor Stepovich is still alive, turning 95 shortly. (born 12th March, 1919)
Looks as if he really enjoyed his role as a contestant!
He didn't quite reach his 95th birthday, having passed away on 2/14/2014. He died six days after he suffered a fall while visiting his son in San Diego (CA). At the time of his death, he had the distinction (since 5/9/2013) of the being the earliest-serving surviving U.S. governor.
Ralph Bellamy must have been excellent as FDR in the Broadway play "Sunrise at Campobello" because they got him to play the same role in the 1960 film adaptation. If you haven't seen the movie "Sunrise at Campobello", I think it's very much worth seeing, if for no other reason than to see Bellamy impersonate Franklin D. Roosevelt. Excellent acting, that was. Greer Garson won a Best Actress Golden Globe for her portrayal of Eleanor Roosevelt in the film and an Oscar nomination, too. Interestingly (at least to me), Bellamy played FDR once again in the 1983 TV miniseries "The Winds of War" adapted from Herman Wouk's novel of the same name.
And of course he was also in the miniseries "War and Remembrance" in 1988, which didn't get the same positive feedback as I recall "Winds of War" did but that had nothing to do with Mr. Bellamy. He was excellent as FDR in both.
I was happy to see this episode with Mr. Bellamy as the Secret Guest! He was a superior, actor.
Thanks to those who caught the glitch at 20:58. I was looking away at that moment (I eat while watching WML episodes) and it didn't make sense that Dorothy seemed so close to guessing the MG and then suddenly passed to Bennett because she was stuck as to who it was.
There was a moment there right before Dorothy passed to BC that she was unmasked and the was masked when she passed her turn. A glitch I am sure.
@@dpm-jt8rj @Lois Simmons Yes, this glitch is actually mentioned in the original notes about this episode, underneath where it says:
"Published on Jan 28, 2014" -- it reads:
"NOTE: There's a brief glitch at 20:58 where a bit of film of Dorothy from after the mystery guest segment is over appears before the questioning round is over. It appears to have been a mistake in the film itself. Try not to get thrown by it, it only last a few seconds."
I get a kick out of telling the young 'uns that when I was born, there were only 48 states, and that I remember seeing flags with only 48 stars on them. The look of incredulity on their little faces is comical. ...Also, for a significant period of my life, I lived a short bike ride from New Hope Pa, a gorgeous little town.
I too remember the flag with 48 stars!
Ricardo Montalban looked like he could have played James Bond
I get a kick out of Daly acting like one of the panelist got the answer right but they didn't. "Did you say James Whitemore ? . . . . NO !!! "
Dan Celli - Yes, I love it too.
Funny....he does that all the time, and it annoys me! :)
Bellamy played a detective in the early days of TV; MAN AGAINST CRIME, 1949-1956.
I only became familiar with Ralph Bellamy late in his career. He has an important role in one of my favorite films, "Trading Places", as the more likable of the Duke Brothers, Randolph. Don Ameche played the more sour Mortimer Duke. It was Randolph who explained the commodities business to Billy Ray Valentine (Eddie Murphy), one of my favorite bits of dialogue from the movie (and I had many favorites).
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But it is Mortimer who delivers the classic line after his brother passes out near the end of the movie: "TURN THOSE MACHINES BACK ON!!!"
And Beeks ... whatever happened to Beeks?
A good turn in " of God"
I was born (1948) in Alaska and when I saw Mike Stepovich sign in I thought the name seemed familiar. Then when he said he was from Juneau, my first thought was Governor, but I didn’t really distinctly recall him. My first memory of a governor was William Egan, who was the first governor of the STATE of Alaska. Mr Stepovich was the last territorial governor.
Ricardo Montalban himself stated that there are five stages of an actor's career:
1. Who is Ricardo Montalban?
2. Get me Ricardo Montalban!
3. Get me a Ricardo Montalban type!
4. Get me a young Ricardo Montalban!
5. Who is Ricardo Montalban?
Very sharp- witted statement and great quote! Thanks.
+Johan Bengtsson
Thank you, lovely quote.
Mr. Montalban was gorgeous and good at everything I have seen him appear in. I too would have like to see him often on WmL.
The first person to say that was Mary Astor and several people said it after her.
He was popular his whole career of course....later in life in Fantasy Island and a well remembered Star Trek character. It's heart warming when older actors find new stardom later in life.
Ricardo the gentleman saying Ralph's Spanish accent was good, lol.
A governor is NOT an employee of the Federal government, but the state! Right? How did they miss that?
EDIT:
Oh, this was BEFORE it was a state! Now I get it!
At the end of the mystery guest segment there was a little snippet of film that was unfortunately spliced out of order or out of sequence when they were still trying to guess the mystery guest and Dorothy had her blindfold off. I wonder what happened there.
That was noted at the top of the page.
The Alaska Statehood Act would be signed into law later in 1958, on July 7, 1958, causing Alaska's admission to the union as the 49th state on January 3, 1959.
What kept them from giving the statehood to Alaska much earlier? Why was that even a question?
+Celisar1 Too may flags already in circulation.
So he was the governor of the TERROROITY of Alaska as of the date of this show?
"territory"🙃
I guess that's why he stated that he was employed by the Federal, rather than State, government then.
Lord Alaska wasn't even a state. Vintage indeed
Nor was Hawaii 😃
How lovely to see Ralph Bellamy at this stage of his career. It was such a delight seeing him in the old black and white movies. I've not seen him elsewhere but always had a soft spot for him.
Since this episode aired shortly before I was born I never knew of Mr. Bellamy's portrayal of FDR in this play. But, I do remember his excellent portrayal of FDR in the 80's in Winds of War and War and Remembrance. Maybe some people are born to play certain roles.
Why do they sometimes think fish, birds and insects aren't animals, such basic taxonomy has been in use for hundreds of years
It always amazes me when they make these mistakes.
Some of my relatives who were/are contemporaries of the panel members used to have the same questions/understanding when I was growing up. All I could piece together whenever we talked about these kinds of subjects is that they have confused the words animal and mammal.
daisyflowerrose2005 so I can remember at school (Sydney, Australia) that animals were basically identified as mammal, bird, fish or insect. It was considered misleading to call an insect an animal, and you generally referred to fish being fish and birds being birds rather than animals. The distinctions were mainly to do with the birth process and environment. Mammals were land dwellers and gave birth, fish were amphibious and laid eggs, birds could fly and laid eggs and insects had no internal skeleton were as the rest did and mammals were generally referred to as animals. Of course this lead to some anomalies that also had to be taught such as whales being a mammal, emus could not fly, and a platypus is an egg-laying mammal.
Ricardo Montalbán was a delightful human being
Richardo montalban in Fantasy Island came out 1977
Mrs Kraft is so pretty. She is so cool.
Nice touch by John Daley, the "Panel, en garde", just prior to asking the first guest to sign in. Never heard him say that.
Again Bennett missed his chance -- I was waiting for him to say Mrs Kraft was quite a honey.
Bigfoot Mangiacavallo - Well, I am glad that he did miss his chance this time.
Thanks for explaining the film glitch. I didn't think Dorothy Kilgallen was THAT good.
The governor's answer "Yes" to "Do you work for the Federal government?" seems wrong until you realize that Alaska had not yet achieved statehood, there was as yet no state government.
Mr Bellamy was great as the straight man in His Girl Friday!
Bellamy was my favorite character in that movie.
This episode aired 16 days shy of one year before Alaska became America's 49th state.
KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!!!!!!!!
After Ricardo Montalban was no longer preoccupied with Corinthian leather.
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I just knew someone would say that. ;)
Regarding the first contestant from Alaska not knowing the rules of the game, did Alaska even have access to television in the 1950s? My Aunt and Uncle lived in Edmonton, Alberta in the 1950s and the only channel they received was the Canadian CBC. They had no American channels or other Canadian channels. That's how remote Alberta still was in the 1950s.
Ralph Bellamy won a Lifetime Achievement Oscar in 1988.
I remember Mr. Bellamy as one-half of the "Duke Bros." in "Trading Places." He was also very good in an episode of "LA Law."
Cerf never misses an opportunity to plug his business, even if he has to invent one.
The panel better watch out for the wrath of Khan!
Regarding the Bee Keeper: Anyone catch it when Daly said "this is getting sticky"? I tried to think back over all the other shows I have seen and I do not believe I have ever heard him use that phrase before....
I think he planned ahead of time to use that response.
Ralph Bellamy was in one of my favorite movies, “pretty Woman “. Long time great actor even from the 30’s era. What year was this broadcast?
Thank you! I couldn't figure out where I remembered him from 🙈
Beekeepers product two products, actually, honey and beeswax. Beeswax is used for a variety of things including candles. Some beekeepers also produce new bee colonies for sale, when a queen is hatched and a new colony is ready to swarm they can box up the colony for sale to another beekeeper. Bennett did it again, by the way. First he asked if the insects could sting or bite -- yes. Then he asked do they sting -- yes. Then he asked are they bees or mosquitos -- yes. The only problem is that mosquitoes don't sting -- they bite. People will tell you they got a mosquito bite, and the females bite human beings and animals to suck the blood which is their only food source. Definitely not a sting when it's a mosquito.
My grandfather was a beekeeper and his last name was Beeman.
+ToddSF 94109
Thank you for sharing that and for not minding your beeswax!
Yes, and Daly was totally in error calling beekeeping a service. If you have an infestation of bees or wasps around your house, you don't call a beekeeper, you call an exterminator!!
@@marvinmeeker5765 For bees, a beekeeper is a better choice.
The second challenger, Sue Kraft, uses what I had learned as an acceptable alternate way of writing the letter "t" in cursive when it comes at the end of a word. I haven't seen that in a long time. Then again, I am seeing less and less cursive in general, and when I do see it, it is becoming more and more rudimentary.
That’s shorthand for letter T. My mother and I both used/ use it at end of a word.
0:38 Hal Simms is the announcer.
Regarding the beekeeper, I wonder if John was making an inside joke when he answered Dorothy's question: "This gets a little bit sticky after a while." The audience laughed, thinking about the honey.
This could get sticky...
Strange that John would give a hint like that. And so early in the questioning.
that "glitch" at 20:58 loos like the film was edited with a rusty hatchet.
wonder what happened?
someone intentionally edited that piece in.
Ricardo montalban helped get " The Frito Bandito "off the air in 1971. I was 12 years old .
Honey Well - Good for him. That kind of racism should be laid to rest.
@@shirleyrombough8173.....If a character from Mexico (who's a bandit) is considered racist, what culture/race can play a bandit and not be considered racist (?????)🤔🤷🤨
Welcome to Fantasy Island.
Contains an out of order sequence for Ralph Bellamy in which Dorothy is masked, then unmasked, then masked.
Ive noticed some contestants exit in front of the panelists and others exit behind John.
John Daly just could not say montalban
Oh, I hope no one is EXTERMINATING bees now days! !
Are they birds was too specific.. should have asked, " can they fly ?". Then explore. Cert, Dorothy, and Arlene often start vague.
It was Ricardo who broke them out of the animals and got them on the insects. He's pretty sharp. I bet he would have made a good guest.
Plus he was also smart enough to pass to Dorothy when he realized he didn't know what the answer was.
Strip poker? With that panel? Challenge accepted lol
"Do you make rich Corinthean leather?"
I'm now wondering how Ricardo Montalban pronounces hi own last name. I've always stressed the THIRD syllable, but John Daly seems to be stressing the SECOND syllable.
mon*TOLL*b'n as opposed to mon* tal*BAHN.
You pronounce it correctly.
Mr. Daly is not right.
In Spanish, John said it correctly.
He's the first person I've seen who didn't know the rules of the game.
*_Governor of Alaska...... Bee Keeper._*
I agree with John. I think Alaska would make a very good 49th state.
I wish a panel member would either ask a question in regards to the mystery guest or make a guess, but not do both. I don't know why, but that bugs me.
I don't know what you mean. Could you give an example?
@@accomplice55 They are allowed one question. But, sometimes they ask the question and then make a guess. They are generally not allowed to do both. Arlene has a tendency to do this. This time it was Bennett. Once they ask a question, the next panel member is suppose to either ask a question or guess. I hope I said this right.
@@mikele5756: Gotcha. I wonder why John doesn't say something then? I thought they were allowed to guess after one question, but maybe not.
Funny shit when Dorothy is shown unmasked during MG
3:33 First time I've ever heard a guest answer no to Daly's question about knowing the rules/how to play the game.
it was much more common in the early years of the show -- but the mystery remains why the staff never made sure that the guest knew how the scoring worked before they went on the air so that John would not have to take time on air to ask
preppy socks I think so that any new viewers are up to speed.
@@Steezey7 perhaps but not so long after this, guests were no longer asked this question, so new viewers would have to fend for themselves
Did Alaska even have access to TV in the 1950s?
"Alaska has been seeking statehood" ... that's one point of view ....
John has an an unusual pronunciation for Montalban!
Considering its vast oil revenues, I believe that today Alaska could legitimately be called a profit-making organization.
Hearing Ralph Bellamy and the others talk about the March of Dimes, it is noticeable to me that the word "polio" is never spoken.
I know that in earlier years, that the word was avoided (somewhat like cancer) in "polite" company.
However by 1958 I would have thought that the self-censorship of people concerning this word would have gone away.
2:07 "Panel mawdahwaydah."
Too bad for its residents on July Fourth.
Apparently Mr. Stepovich had 13 kids, at least according to his Wikipedia.😯
This is a historical show. AK was not the 49th state, yet. In Barry’s mind, it would soon be the 51st. Interesting, 🤔 on how one that would have lived in the 50th state, thought we had 52.
I wonder why the Governor didn't know how scoring was determined?
maybe they couldn't get a TV signal in Alaska back then.
@@MrYfrank14 Very likely! This was before TV satellites, and the coast-to-coast coaxial and microwave links between New York and California were themselves only a few years old at the time.
It is hard to believe I am watching something so far back that Alaska and Hawaii were not states yet. U 21:11
Before 1959, so for 183 years, none of the states were Alaska and Hawai'i
Daly keeps mispronouncing Montalban's name.
No Señor, John Daly está pronunciando el nombre en perfecto castellano español, Con el acento en la segunda sílaba.
@@dannydoc1969 I checked and the encyclopedia and other references show the accent on the final syllable and further show the pronunciation of that syllable as the accented one by separating it from the first two. In all the years of his performances I never noted anyone else who called him that, even among other Mexicans that I recall. I would love to defer to your knowledge of Spanish, but I think this was Daly being his fussy, overly-sure-of-himself self and saying it incorrectly. I will look into this further. All the Spanish speakers I know are not Mexican, but I know a couple of Cubans who have formally studied the language and often advise me on things like the correct pronunciation of Guillermo Vilas, who was an Argentine tennis player. In any case, it is part of the interesting richness of the Spanish language in all its permutations. Thank you for piquing my interest in this. I will see if I can think of somewhere that he may have said his name himself.
the problem with non-English names is, they can't be pronounced correctly in English.
i assume this is true in all languages.
even among English speakers in the US, regional accents can completely change a name.
my last name has the AR sound as in bar and car.
some parts of MA and RI ignore R's altogether so my name gets changed to an AH sound like bah.
in other words, the way a name sounds cannot always be translated.
@@MrYfrank14 Yes, I know. While most of the languages I speak are romance languages (partly because I love the vowel and consonant sounds within them), I live in a part of the U.S. that uses particularly hard Rs, yet is surrounded by neighbors who drop or mute their Rs. John Daly has a history in his 17 year tenure on this show as being oddly free with the names of others, many of whom are in professions where their stage or professional name is their brand name and they are there to promote whatever. He tends to use nicknames when they use their given name and vice versa or they use a stage name or a pronunciation he may not be aware of. (I.e. Louis Armstrong, though from a French, Cajun and Creole speaking part of the nation did not use the French Lou-ey, but rather the more English Lou-iss, in the speaking of his given name/stage name.) So he says what he wishes. It is a way of indicating an intimacy with the other party that he normally did not enjoy really. And he gives them no choice. I was taught early in childhood to address people in the manner in which they introduce themselves, unless they ask you to address them differently or you ask if you may address them differently. But then he named all 4 of his sons John, so there you go.
Naming his sons John didn't start with him - it was tradition in the Daly family before he was even born to name all male babies John. Hence, he, his father, grandfather, brother, sons, nephew, grandson, and who knows how many other relatives are named John. As I stated earlier, he did in fact know many of these people on a personal basis, and in that time a lot of celebrities used given names but were known by their familiar names - William Holden, James Arness, Richard Boone, Peter Graves, James Stewart, Charles Chaplin, Robert Cummings, Anthony Perkins and I'm sure many more actually went by the short forms of their names, but used their formal names on stage.
Bees do have fur.
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Despite praising Mr. Belany's Spanish, the ladies should have been addressed as 'senora.'
What just happened Dorothy get and they want back to guessing?
12-24-2022.
Question: " Did Ralph sell his Bellamy?"
Mr Montalban has such a lot of Charm, wicked twinkle in his eyes. Married in the 1940s, never divorced. Wiki says strict diet, worked out as we saw when he played Khan in Star Trek. Aged well too. By contrast Dorothy's usual silly giggling at the Gov of Alaska & catty remark at Cerf about Alaska shows her charm or sophistication was not genuine or sincere. She seemed to see herself as The Authority on the Panel just because she was the oldest member, there at the start. She seems to make Cerf nervous, he puts his hand up to try & block her out - Arlene's more soothing presence by his side obviously preferred. Dorothy like a little girl tugging on her daddies sleeve for attention.
KHANNNNNNNNNNNN!
Is it just my eyes, but does JCD have a right "black eye?"
He often had dark circles under his eyes - whether he was just plain tired from the long hours he worked, or it was just natural coloring or what.
“Dee plane, dee plane”. 😉❤️
Pre wrath o’khan noonian Singh, by how many years? Jim: “Khan !” Kirk out. ;).
These folks and this show is SO civilised!
Of course at the time, they had no idea of the degree of the abysmal, talentless crudity into which we would plummet for crass entertainment 50-60 years later.
I utterly despair in 2020!
Khan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oops. On the editing!
Weird only 48 states
Misinformation at its worse, bees are not considered insects nor are they ever exterminated. Some beekeeper, that was. 🙄
It’s weird the governor wasnt elected
What's so difficult about saying…. Mont all bah n ……tell us John Daly…?
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John Daly's mispronunciation of "Montalban" disturbed me too, especially after Arlene had pronounced it so beautifully in her introduction. For such an educated person and professional broadcast journalist, it is surprising that he had so much trouble with it. In previous episodes he also pronounced Peter Ustinov's name "Oo-stinov," even though Arlene said "You-stinov," which is the way I'd always heard it before. I'm not sure with that one which is actually correct according to its language of origin. I suppose it was their own senses of etiquette that prevented either of these guest panelists from correcting any mispronunciations on the air.
It's like he didn't have a clue who Ricardo Montalban was as his pronunciation of his name wasn't even close. Maybe that's why Mr. Montalban never appeared on the show again. Perhaps he was insulted.
Jeff Vaughn being off on which syllable should have been accented i'd not consider "even close" & if that was the reason that's kind of petty for an honest mistake--if John pronounced the accent DIFFERENTLY every time then that would be a legitimate reason to be annoyed
John pronounced it correctly. A couple of generations of Americans have corrupted the pronunciation, but the accent is properly on the second syllable. Think about his first name: which syllable do you pronounce in Ricardo? Or the author of Don Quixote: Cervantes. Et cetera. If the stress was on a different syllable, there would be an accent mark in his name.
@@mikejschin Wikipedia shows the accent on the second syllable, as you say. But it also shows an accent *mark* on the second "a". So the proper spelling is "Montalbán".