Proud to say Ed Sullivan had a home in my hometown of Southbury,Ct when he wasn’t in NY. I’ve since learned the Beatles were there and swam in his pool.
I watch a great deal of the What's My Line episodes and I chose this one at random. I was shocked to see the date of March 17, 1963. The same day that my Irish grandmother passed away.
I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't whisper in your ear to watch this show and know she's thinking of you. They do that sometimes or show up in dreams....especially if you ask them too.
I never understood why the op has to keep apologising for the qualify. Heck, considering the age of these programs, we are lucky to be able to have them at all. Thanks op for these! Apologies are never necessary.
Great episode! Plenty of reference to my home city of Cork. It's funny that I have mentioned Eddie Mulhare's name to plenty of Cork people, but nobody knows who he is. When I explain that he is in Knight Rider they know then, but don't realise he was from Cork. I think people assume he is English, as he acquired an English accent since he left Ireland.
Just want to add my thanks for all your hard work using multiple sources in making this episode so enjoyable to watch, as are all the others you post. Great to see Dorothy back on the panel!!
This comment should have many more "thumbs up" than it has. I am in awe of the quantity and quality of these videos, and can't begin to explain how much they have meant to me (and I'm sure many others).
Sullivan was also instrumental in introducing Motown groups to the general public. He had on his show, for example, the Jackson 5, the Supremes, the Temptations, the Four Tops, Martha and the Vandellas, Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye, Smokey Robinson and the Miracles, and Gladys Knight and the Pips.
Or, Elvis - and about 10 years later, Jim Morrison and the Doors. There are countless others, of course - including appearances by a very young Barbra in the early 1960's.
@@Qboro66 I think this was the second time in a row that Dorothy had that ridiculous hair piece and bow, otherwise I would try to somehow associate it with a St. Patrick's Day joke. She was usually very smart about styles in general, although hair was never her forte.
Thanks for this. I've never seen Edward Mulhare so young. The only thing I'd actually seen him in pre-'Knight Rider' was that one episode of 'Battlestar Galactica' and he was barely any younger then.
As a kid in the 60s I enjoyed watching him co-star with Hope Lange on the NBC Saturday night sitcom "The Ghost and Mrs Muir". A very handsome fellow with a magnificent voice !
SaveThe TPC There's an interesting exchange between Bennett and John Daly starting at 11:13 (pertaining to plants being alive) when Bennett asks if the contestant's product has ever been alive. The contestant rightly answers yes, Daly overrules him, and Bennett protests that they had established "about four years ago..." that plants were alive. I bet it was a night when Tony Randall was on the panel. :-)
Robert Melson VERY interesting! But actually Tony Randall's objection to the whole "plants not being considered alive on WML" thing wasn't till 9/13/64, after this show! I don't know what Bennett thought he was referring to, but plants were always-- exasperatingly-- considered "not alive" by John on WML.
What's My Line? Hmm...I haven't watched that yet, as I'm going through them in order, with the exceptions of DK's death and the very last one. Both I and TPC (I think) noticed one with Tony Randall (could have been about 4 years ago?) in which Tony insisted (and John et. al. quickly acceded to) that plants were alive too. Then we also saw one a few months ago (that Tony was on) where Bennett made the point that plants were alive. We jokingly made the observation that Tony's presence had caused that interpretation. Right, SaveThe TPC ?
Robert Melson You might have seen the clip I posted from the 1964 show to the Facebook group ages ago, even if you hadn't watched the episode yet. Either that, or I'm forgetting an earlier incident, but I don't think so. Tony says in the 1964 show that it never occurred to him to bring this up before, after all the years he'd been on the program.
What's My Line? Could be I did see it posted on FB (I joined in June, I think). I found the reference I mentioned above from "a few months ago" which bears on the subject: 3/11/62 at 10:35. John concedes that bananas had been alive after Dorothy explicitly asks had it "ever been alive, _animal or vegetable_". I concede that John answers as he does because of Dorothy's use of the word vegetable. That man is gonna be intransigent the entire run of the show, isn't he? I can understand Gil Fates' irritation with him a little better. BTW, did you notice Eamonn Andrews' proper (and different from Daly's) answer to the question when he was guest hosting?
Robert Melson No, I did not notice that Eamonn treated the question differently! I'll have to take a look some time, as well as the banana episode. This is, for me, perhaps the single weakest point of John Daly as the otherwise beyond reproach moderator. It makes NO sense, and even if they wanted to just have this as an arbitrary standard on WML, he should have at least explained it when it came up, and he really never did. That said, I don't think Fates's ill will towards John had anything to do with his performance on camera, just my gut feeling. I think it was interpersonal, a producer who understandably resented the degree of control exerted over the program by a cast member.
You mean...'elegantly' dressed, since it's an adverb. So, just trying to have a little fun with all of you out there who don't REALLY know your English grammar. ;)
In the late 50s, he played Henry Higgins. Edward Mulhare also played the role of Dirk Winsten for a while in Jean Kerr's long-running Broadway play, "Mary, Mary" - but that was a couple of years before this episode of WML?
I'm surprised that when Mrs. McCoy said she was from Co. Cork, everyone knew she was from Ireland. The average American now hardly knows how to find Ireland on a map.
Ever notice that when a performer finishes shaking hands with the last person on the panel, s/he will turn to the audience and at least acknowledge it, if not give a head or even full bow? Whereas normal people totally ignore the audience after the last handshake and head straight off stage.
Actually not so. I watch very carefully at the end and very few celebrities turn to the audience. This one was adorable because the Blarney Stone gatekeeper really made a point of acknowledging the audience I loved when she stood and bowed at the beginning of her exit!
@@JackDecker63 I had just watched an episode with Bob Hope and Lucille Ball. I was disappointed that neither of these giants turned to the audience. Still love them!
I was too distracted by her hairdo to notice. Seriously, I know women's hairstyles were pretty outrageous then, but was that considered appealing even in 1963? She looks like she has a small animal affixed to the top of her head with a ribbon.
At 23:25 we get to see John Daly tugging at his ear, the standard signal meaning "Drop the subject". Bennett had asked the Irish policewoman what she thought of Mr. Briscoe, the mayor of Dublin. But John didn't want a political argument. Bennett did drop the subject ... but was able to resume, four years later on March 9, 1958, when Mr. Briscoe was a contestant on WML. ruclips.net/video/WBUaEujoiNU/видео.html Bennett, as a publisher, was riled up about allegations of censorship in a Dublin theater festival. Mr. Briscoe gave a long rebuttal; the camera showed only Mr. Briscoe so we'll never know if John was again tugging frantically at his ear.
Excellent catch!!! I've been asked before if I can point to an example of John pulling his ear on camera, and I've never been able to remember a case, only remembered reading about this trick in many places. What's REALLY fascinating about this bit, if I'm not mistaken, is that John here was referring to the very Mayor Wagner who later married Bennett's wife, Phyllis, after Bennett's death!
I finally get to see one. Thanks, Gary D. And, interestingly, John doesn't in any way try to conceal it. I had thought that the main reason we had not spotted it before was perhaps John Daly's deliberate intent to wait until the camera was off him, or to try to do it as surreptitiously as could be in other ways, e.g., with face turned away or as casually as possible. This was quite obvious here.
@@WhatsMyLine What is more interesting in the Phyllis Cerf-Mayor Wagner connection is that Wagner was a MG shortly after he was elected, with Bennett a panelist.
Bennett was a very intelligent man and was plenty smart about figuring things out on many occasions. In this case he took a chance on a hunch, and it turned out he was right. There have been plenty of times when his hunches were totally off-base, but this time, I guess "the luck of the Irish" was with him. ;)
Glass, like many types of matter, can exist in liquid, gas, or solid form depending on temperature and pressure. That has no relationship whatsoever to whether it's "vegetable life" (which of course it isn't, since it's made from sand.)
Well, at the risk of being pedantic (probably too late). . . At room temperature, glass is a solid. At room temperature, water is liquid. All sorts of forms of matter exist as solid, liquid or gas depending on temperature and pressure conditions. It only makes sense, for matter that can exist in these different states, to refer to them in plain english by the state they're in at room temperature. But if you want to consider glass to be a cooled liquid, and water to be a melted solid, be my guest. :)
Good lord, where do you people study science of any kind. First, glass is not a type of matter, it is a composite of several minerals changed by heat thus altering the properties of the composite components. I need not as a glass blower as I myself am a scientist. Matter certainly may exist in multiple forms, typical glass lacks a defined crystal architecture. But to claim glass is a liquid is scientifically inaccurate. It is the property and characteristics of the material in its solid state which confers the definition of “Glass”. As a forensic scientist, I would like to think I know a bit about glass...but this was just ridiculous.
Was the What's My Line studio near the CBS theater where did his show? I wonder what he would do between 9 (when left the air) and the 10:30 (actually 10 till for his bit) starting time of this show. Gee, today if you mention Ed Sullivan's name, if you're lucky you might get a response "well he brought the Beatles to America, right". I guess you have to be over 50 to really appreciate how he influenced television.
Part of the reason Sullivan is nearly forgotten? The folks in charge of his interests today are notoriously aggressive about anyone posting anything from the Sullivan shows to RUclips, yet have released basically nothing from the catalog on home video except the Beatles shows. Very short sighted, old fashioned thinking. The result is that one of the best known figures of television for over 20 YEARS, a television institution, is nearly forgotten today except as the guy whose name is on the theater the Letterman show broadcasts from.
What's My Line? I agree, although I wonder how much of that has to do with the basic assumption on the part of the powers-that-be that there isn't sufficient public interest in the material to make reissuing it profitable, versus the financial considerations of paying the copyright fees for all of the musical guests involved. Either way, it comes down to the almighty dollar, unfortunately. Incidentally, they DID release a large DVD box set of some of the iconic pop/rock/R&B performances from the Sullivan show about 10 years ago. It was a very worthwhile purchase, but many of the clips were edited down from their already relatively brief original running times (3-4 minutes, tops) to truncated, 2 minute clips, I believe in order to get through a loophole which allowed the producers to bypass the copyright fees if they kept the clips under a specific amount of time.
Todd Brandt If music clearances are the issue for DVD release, which they very well could be, RUclips is the ideal venue for them to make the material available, as the Carson folks have. On RUclips it would be much more possible to post shows that they lack music clearances for, as long as the music copyright holders don't act toward *them* the way *they* do toward anyone trying to keep this legacy alive by posting Sullivan clips. It becomes a vicious cycle: there isn't enough commercial interest to spend the dough to release the material, so they keep it locked up, the public forgets even more, and the commercial viability is damaged even further. If nothing else, they could easily post the non musical portions of the shows that likely don't require any clearances. Simply locking the stuff up out of view of the public (outside of that one less than ideal rock and roll set that was a blatant grab at younger consumers) only has the effect of making the material more commercially worthless over time. And they completely fail to grasp that the folks who post this material are doing so because they love the shows and want to see this legacy kept alive, not because they're immoral digital pirates. If they wanted to, they could block all Sullivan videos that are posted by others without going as far as to issue copyright strikes *just as easily*. They've made a conscious, vindictive choice to attack the accounts of folks who want nothing more than to preserve Sullivan's legacy for posterity.
Dick Clark's people are also notoriously vigilant in taking action against those who post clips related to his old shows. It's frustrating and sad, because there is a treasure trove of material out there that, at this rate, will never be seen by future generations (and only passed around by the few "in the know" on grainy, less than ideal bootlegs). Maddening!
A bow affixed to the top of a girl’s or a young woman’s head was quite fashionable at the time. However, it would have always been carefully placed on straight, especially by the fastidiously attired Dorothy. For that reason I think her hairpiece slipped before she came on the set.
Lorna Badeo Am I remembering correctly from the Lee Israel bio of Dorothy you recommended: didn't she have a feud going with Ed Sullivan for a while in the early days of her VOB column? I thought of this in particular when seeing here the relatively rare occasion where a mystery guest (Sullivan) made a big show of affection for Dorothy upon his exit, including a kiss. Theater? Or just poor memory on my part? I know he was also on another earlier show, but I hadn't read the bio when I last watched that one so I wasn't paying attention to this aspect. :)
Lorna Badeo I may very well be remembering wrong. I was hoping you would be able to say, because I can't find the short section of the book I remember this from, which talked about the various columnists' feuds with each other. It's not the greatest index though-- just flipping through the book I caught a couple of references to Sullivan that weren't listed!
Edward Mulhare was from Cork. He hud his Cork and Irish accent very well. It must have been quite the struggle to sustain that phony, clipped "upper class" Anglo Saxon accent.
I thought it was cute that Dorothy would suggest Truman Capote. I think WML was a little too staid for him. Although he could behave himself when he wanted to. There is a great episode of Firing Line With Bill Buckley where Truman hitched his personality back at the flamboyancy stable and gave quite a good interview. I would have liked to have seen him on WML, however.
Truman Capote and Groucho on the Dick Cavett show. No more need be said, except anyone who likes either of them, or especially anyone who likes both, needs to see it!
Yes, indeed! In fact I asked the question on one of Cavett's RUclips page videos why is it that there is so much Cavett (on tape yet) from the same period that there is so little Carson. Did ABC not wipe their tapes?
Joe Postove It's a good question. I think the difference is that Cavett owned his programs (pretty sure, since I know Cavett 's company currently owns the library), whereas NBC owns the Tonight show. If Cavett wisely made it a priority to preserve his shows, he wouldn't have have been at the mercy of the network to not wipe the tapes. Just a theory.
What's My Line? Johnny discovered sometime in the 70s that NBC had been recycling the old tapes of the shows without his knowledge, and he ultimately put a stop to that. A large chunk of the final two years in New York (1970-72) is still extant but only form 72 onward in LA is the run entirely intact. The earliest complete color tape show is New Year's Eve, 1965.
I could've sworn I'd seen Truman Capote on one of the WML episodes you've already posted, What's My Line?. Am I wrong? And, if so, Who am I confusing him with? This is driving me crazy!
MyMagic 111: Why can't y'all leave Dorothy alone? I have seen both Arlene's and Dorothy's weight fluctuate from week to week or from month to month with no one remarking on Arlene's weight. It seems as if every gesture or sneeze from Doeothy sends everyone into paroxysms of diagniatic fervor. Just stop it.
Yes, it's also called wood sorrel or sour dock and has a lemony sour flavor which is indeed good to add to salads. It's a member of the Oxalis family, most of which are edible and actually quite tasty. What's your beef if you haven't actually tasted one?
Why does Arlene keep referring to the celebrities as "boy" and "girl"...its so demeaning....I remember one female celebrity was indignant when Arlene referred to her as a "girl"...her response was "I AM A WOMAN"....
Dorothy. That is RIDICULOUS. 0:50 Who on earth told her thst looks fine?!? In all seriousness, Dorothy most often strikes me as someone who wants to fit in, wants to be liked, wants to appear on top of things and look anything but silly.....and then she puts her hair up high and ties a bow in it.
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Proud to say Ed Sullivan had a home in my hometown of Southbury,Ct when he wasn’t in NY. I’ve since learned the Beatles were there and swam in his pool.
I watch a great deal of the What's My Line episodes and I chose this one at random. I was shocked to see the date of March 17, 1963. The same day that my Irish grandmother passed away.
I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't whisper in your ear to watch this show and know she's thinking of you. They do that sometimes or show up in dreams....especially if you ask them too.
Very much enjoyed this one too!🍀
Impressed that Dorothy knew some Gaelic 🇮🇪🍀
LOVE these old shows-------- makes me feel old but I appreciate being the opportunity to watch them !!! Thanks. :-)
Edward was truly in a class of his own. Suave, well spoken and a true gentleman. RIP Devon🤗
Devon?
@@peternagy-im4be Yes, Devon Miles from Knight Rider. In my opinion, his most memorable role ✌
@@AchtungBaby77 Thanks for that info.
I never understood why the op has to keep apologising for the qualify. Heck, considering the age of these programs, we are lucky to be able to have them at all. Thanks op for these! Apologies are never necessary.
Hear, hear!!
Great episode! Plenty of reference to my home city of Cork. It's funny that I have mentioned Eddie Mulhare's name to plenty of Cork people, but nobody knows who he is. When I explain that he is in Knight Rider they know then, but don't realise he was from Cork. I think people assume he is English, as he acquired an English accent since he left Ireland.
And his accent was absolutely gorgeous...just as he was.
Just want to add my thanks for all your hard work using multiple sources in making this episode so enjoyable to watch, as are all the others you post. Great to see Dorothy back on the panel!!
Thank you for the thank you, Jeffrey!
This comment should have many more "thumbs up" than it has. I am in awe of the quantity and quality of these videos, and can't begin to explain how much they have meant to me (and I'm sure many others).
Not surprisingly, Ed Sullivan acknowledged the audience. I love when the celebrities did that and am always disappointed when they didn’t do it.
I so agree!! It's heartwarming to see the ones who wave to the people.
Mulhare is so charming. I remember him from The Ghost and Mrs Muir!
Ed Sullivan was such a class act. Very gracious and kind, and largely responsible for introducing the British invasion of the 60s to the USA.
Sullivan was also instrumental in introducing Motown groups to the general public. He had on his show, for example, the Jackson 5, the Supremes, the Temptations, the Four Tops, Martha and the Vandellas, Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye, Smokey Robinson and the Miracles, and Gladys Knight and the Pips.
Always gave people a break, what a guy
Their hit song, "I Want to HOld your Hand," was already a #1 hit song in the U.S. even before they arrived in the US.
Edward Mulhare was Irish not British!!!
Couldn't get more Irish than the gatekeeper at the Blarney Stone.☘️🍀
OMG - that ribbon in Dorothy Kilgallen‘s hair 😂
One of the many delights of Arlene was when she would guess right a contestant she always had a nice bag of adjectives to apply to the guest.
It's called being a "kiss-ass"
Joe Postove Yeah I like that too. Everyone shuts up and she says what should be said.
Such history
Kissing the Blarney Stone - one of the greatest bucket list items I have been able to cross off
Thank you for bringing so much pleasure to my life!!!!
This was a rare treat indeed
👍💯💜😁👏👏👏🤗🧘♀️🙂🖐. Neita James.
In September 1966, this show would actually move to the Ed Sullivan Theater, during the change to color videotape.
Isn't that Steven Colbert's and David Letterman's old theater?
This episode had a great gimmick for the occasion. All the guests were full-blooded Irish, as were Edward and Dorothy.
Arlene was Armenian descent
John Daly was also Irish.
With the surname Kilgallen what else would she be but Irish?
Ed Sullivan said 5 words that changed the world of Music forever; "Ladies and Gentleman, The Beatles!"
Or “ladies and gentleman, The Crickets” in 1957…
Or, Elvis - and about 10 years later, Jim Morrison and the Doors. There are countless others, of course - including appearances by a very young Barbra in the early 1960's.
So many more than just the Beatles
@@rivaridge7211 May as well add The Supremes.
everything isn't about the beatles, sweetie, move on
How gorgeous is Edward Mulhare on this show? *swoon* He wouldn't have to ask me twice.
I have had a crush on him since the first movie I saw him in- totally gorgeous!
He was no Rondo Hatton but I must admit he was indeed one handsome gent !
I loved him in The Ghost & Mrs. Muir
Mulhare was one Dashing S O B..
And I say that with all due respect. An amazingly gifted actor.
I remember him on the ghost& mrs.muir with Hope Lange
Very enjoyable show! 🥰
Awesome to See Mr Edward Mulhare
Edward Mulhare is just about to appear in the brilliant, unforgettable "Outer Limits" episode, "The Sixth Finger."
Oh my! Dorothy’s hair!
Sorry but Dorothy looks like she's wearing one of those helicopter hats. I'm sure she didn't know how silly that would look.
It was definitely a hair don't. 💇♀️
@@Qboro66 I think this was the second time in a row that Dorothy had that ridiculous hair piece and bow, otherwise I would try to somehow associate it with a St. Patrick's Day joke. She was usually very smart about styles in general, although hair was never her forte.
Oh that 'do is a DON'T! LOL!
@@Qboro66 Dorothy seemed to have a thing for the French poodle top knot style..
I didn't have any idea Edward Mulhare, was a panel member on this.He was cute, but cuter on 'Ghost & Mrs.Muir'.He looked better with a beard.
Michelle Post -Actually I think he looks just great without a beard.
He looked far better with a beard.
My Mom used to swoon over Mulhare.
How Arlene guessed Ed Sullivan is beyond me! And Dorothy’s hair is straight out of a comedy sitcom...
She really should have fired her stylist.
@@sallyhaid7030 I came to comments specifically for Dorothy’s ridiculous hairstyle. Lol
Excellent job of putting the two sources together. Well done!
Thank you very much, Joe! I really, really appreciate that. It takes a good bit of work. :)
Happy St. Patrick's day 2019👍
I miss these people from my Grandparents generation so much.
Not the first time Dorothy has had over-the-top hair 🤣. But Arlene always looked impeccable!😘
Thanks for this. I've never seen Edward Mulhare so young. The only thing I'd actually seen him in pre-'Knight Rider' was that one episode of 'Battlestar Galactica' and he was barely any younger then.
As a kid in the 60s I enjoyed watching him co-star with Hope Lange on the NBC Saturday night sitcom "The Ghost and Mrs Muir". A very handsome fellow with a magnificent voice !
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I remember him in The Ghost and Mrs. Muir.😄☘
I remember him from The Ghost and Mrs Muir. He's a handsome young man!
St, Patrick's Day... They were definitely featuring the Irish!!!
Something makes me believe that this was aired on St Patrick's Day :)
hopicard Yeah I get the inkling that they may have planned to have more than one, maybe even a couple of things relating to Ireland.
Hopicard. - Hmm...Ya think?
Last contestant was tall and beautiful, loved her outfit. Very elegant lady.
She had an arresting appeal about her.
@@dcasper8514 Haha!
Yes it was great to see Devon Miles here.
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SaveThe TPC There's an interesting exchange between Bennett and John Daly starting at 11:13 (pertaining to plants being alive) when Bennett asks if the contestant's product has ever been alive. The contestant rightly answers yes, Daly overrules him, and Bennett protests that they had established "about four years ago..." that plants were alive. I bet it was a night when Tony Randall was on the panel. :-)
Robert Melson VERY interesting! But actually Tony Randall's objection to the whole "plants not being considered alive on WML" thing wasn't till 9/13/64, after this show! I don't know what Bennett thought he was referring to, but plants were always-- exasperatingly-- considered "not alive" by John on WML.
What's My Line? Hmm...I haven't watched that yet, as I'm going through them in order, with the exceptions of DK's death and the very last one. Both I and TPC (I think) noticed one with Tony Randall (could have been about 4 years ago?) in which Tony insisted (and John et. al. quickly acceded to) that plants were alive too. Then we also saw one a few months ago (that Tony was on) where Bennett made the point that plants were alive. We jokingly made the observation that Tony's presence had caused that interpretation. Right, SaveThe TPC ?
Robert Melson You might have seen the clip I posted from the 1964 show to the Facebook group ages ago, even if you hadn't watched the episode yet. Either that, or I'm forgetting an earlier incident, but I don't think so. Tony says in the 1964 show that it never occurred to him to bring this up before, after all the years he'd been on the program.
What's My Line? Could be I did see it posted on FB (I joined in June, I think). I found the reference I mentioned above from "a few months ago" which bears on the subject: 3/11/62 at 10:35. John concedes that bananas had been alive after Dorothy explicitly asks had it "ever been alive, _animal or vegetable_". I concede that John answers as he does because of Dorothy's use of the word vegetable. That man is gonna be intransigent the entire run of the show, isn't he? I can understand Gil Fates' irritation with him a little better. BTW, did you notice Eamonn Andrews' proper (and different from Daly's) answer to the question when he was guest hosting?
Robert Melson No, I did not notice that Eamonn treated the question differently! I'll have to take a look some time, as well as the banana episode. This is, for me, perhaps the single weakest point of John Daly as the otherwise beyond reproach moderator. It makes NO sense, and even if they wanted to just have this as an arbitrary standard on WML, he should have at least explained it when it came up, and he really never did. That said, I don't think Fates's ill will towards John had anything to do with his performance on camera, just my gut feeling. I think it was interpersonal, a producer who understandably resented the degree of control exerted over the program by a cast member.
The Irish policewoman was VERY elegant dressed! That kind of outfit would have suited Dorothy well also.
You mean...'elegantly' dressed, since it's an adverb. So, just trying to have a little fun with all of you out there who don't REALLY know your English grammar. ;)
Great Saint Paddy's Day Theme!
Ed Sullivan seems like a character
Dorothy deserves an award for whatever she's done to her hair.
Not sure what kind of award though. Lol
🤣
Or a building permit, anyway
Enjoyed it very much thanks.Had no idea we allowed women in the Gardai back then, impressive wonder how dear De Valera felt about it🤔🧐
RIP Devon Miles, I Believe You & Wilton Knight Are Having A Good Conversation
Dorothy's hair looks like a helicopter waiting to take off.
Fab Four had yet to appear on Ed's show at this point.
Briilant! Thanks!
In this episode, John knew more about shamrocks than the guest!
Arlene : Bennett O'Houlohan Cerf LOL about as Irish as a blintz
The guest panelist was involved in "My Fair Lady"
In the late 50s, he played Henry Higgins.
Edward Mulhare also played the role of Dirk Winsten for a while in Jean Kerr's long-running Broadway play, "Mary, Mary" - but that was a couple of years before this episode of WML?
There is a terrific rendition of "Why Can't the English.. " done by the inestimable Mr. Mulhare on utube. He's absolutely delicious as Henry Higgins!
He sounds like Topo Gigio. 🐭
Odd that Mulhare didn’t introduce Arlene with anything more... first time I heard that.
I'm surprised that when Mrs. McCoy said she was from Co. Cork, everyone knew she was from Ireland. The average American now hardly knows how to find Ireland on a map.
Ever notice that when a performer finishes shaking hands with the last person on the panel, s/he will turn to the audience and at least acknowledge it, if not give a head or even full bow? Whereas normal people totally ignore the audience after the last handshake and head straight off stage.
Actually not so. I watch very carefully at the end and very few celebrities turn to the audience. This one was adorable because the Blarney Stone gatekeeper really made a point of acknowledging the audience I loved when she stood and bowed at the beginning of her exit!
@@dotsywotsy18 I guess we've just been watching different episodes.
@@JackDecker63 I had just watched an episode with Bob Hope and Lucille Ball. I was disappointed that neither of these giants turned to the audience. Still love them!
Great to watch!
Whenever Arleen came to the answer she always gave it away. Brillisnt player.
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Kiss the blarney stone Edward O'Sullivan. 🍀
*_GATEKEEPER AT BLARNEY CASTLE (SITE OF BLARNEY STONE)_*
*_GROWS SHAMROCKS_*
*_POLICEWOMAN IN DUBLIN, IRELAND_*
Sullivan ruled the world.
That Blarney Stone is certainly NOT a sanitized thing, now is it?
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I would never kiss it.
before he was micheal knight's boss on knight rider, mr. edward mulhare :)
𝒯𝒽ℯ 𝒢𝒽ℴ𝓈𝓉 𝒶𝓃𝒹 ℳ𝓇𝓈. ℳ𝓊𝒾𝓇.
𝒞𝒶𝓅𝓉𝒶𝒾𝓃 𝒢𝓇ℯℊℊ. 💕💕
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The WML theme song during this period sounded like it was arranged by Quincy Jones.
Dorothy looks so very vulnerable. I thought she was going to have another attack while introducing Edward Mulhare. So very sad.
Indeed, and so very thin. The 1953 episode that was posted recently makes the drastic difference very clear.
I was too distracted by her hairdo to notice.
Seriously, I know women's hairstyles were pretty outrageous then, but was that considered appealing even in 1963? She looks like she has a small animal affixed to the top of her head with a ribbon.
What's My Line? Taking notice of all things, and I do not intend to come across as mean, but she looks like Popeye's Olivia.
I should be ashamed of myself for finding this so funny. Come now, people! Some dignity? Some class?
I know, I know. *I* started it.
1963. Wiglets were popular to give the illusion of height. Illusion for sure.
At 23:25 we get to see John Daly tugging at his ear, the standard signal meaning "Drop the subject". Bennett had asked the Irish policewoman what she thought of Mr. Briscoe, the mayor of Dublin. But John didn't want a political argument. Bennett did drop the subject ... but was able to resume, four years later on March 9, 1958, when Mr. Briscoe was a contestant on WML.
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Bennett, as a publisher, was riled up about allegations of censorship in a Dublin theater festival. Mr. Briscoe gave a long rebuttal; the camera showed only Mr. Briscoe so we'll never know if John was again tugging frantically at his ear.
Excellent catch!!! I've been asked before if I can point to an example of John pulling his ear on camera, and I've never been able to remember a case, only remembered reading about this trick in many places.
What's REALLY fascinating about this bit, if I'm not mistaken, is that John here was referring to the very Mayor Wagner who later married Bennett's wife, Phyllis, after Bennett's death!
I finally get to see one. Thanks, Gary D. And, interestingly, John doesn't in any way try to conceal it. I had thought that the main reason we had not spotted it before was perhaps John Daly's deliberate intent to wait until the camera was off him, or to try to do it as surreptitiously as could be in other ways, e.g., with face turned away or as casually as possible. This was quite obvious here.
@@WhatsMyLine What is more interesting in the Phyllis Cerf-Mayor Wagner connection is that Wagner was a MG shortly after he was elected, with Bennett a panelist.
When Arlene said Ed's full name @ 19:43, we were all taken by surprise with our laughter!!!!!!!!
What Memories of Cork
How on earth did Bennett pin down that she's a police officer that fast?
It's spooky sometimes, all right.
Bennett was a very intelligent man and was plenty smart about figuring things out on many occasions. In this case he took a chance on a hunch, and it turned out he was right. There have been plenty of times when his hunches were totally off-base, but this time, I guess "the luck of the Irish" was with him. ;)
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11:38 Haha! I must have failed Earth Science. I did not know that glass would be in the category of "vegetable life." ;-)
Well if I remember my science correctly, glass is classified as a liquid.
Glass, like many types of matter, can exist in liquid, gas, or solid form depending on temperature and pressure. That has no relationship whatsoever to whether it's "vegetable life" (which of course it isn't, since it's made from sand.)
Gravydog316 There's such a thing as liquid glass. Ask any glass blower. I'm afraid you're mistaken here.
Well, at the risk of being pedantic (probably too late). . . At room temperature, glass is a solid. At room temperature, water is liquid. All sorts of forms of matter exist as solid, liquid or gas depending on temperature and pressure conditions. It only makes sense, for matter that can exist in these different states, to refer to them in plain english by the state they're in at room temperature. But if you want to consider glass to be a cooled liquid, and water to be a melted solid, be my guest. :)
Good lord, where do you people study science of any kind. First, glass is not a type of matter, it is a composite of several minerals changed by heat thus altering the properties of the composite components. I need not as a glass blower as I myself am a scientist. Matter certainly may exist in multiple forms, typical glass lacks a defined crystal architecture. But to claim glass is a liquid is scientifically inaccurate. It is the property and characteristics of the material in its solid state which confers the definition of “Glass”. As a forensic scientist, I would like to think I know a bit about glass...but this was just ridiculous.
I don’t know how Bennett guessed that last contestant so fast.
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I think the Policewoman's choice of clothing gave her occupation away.
Robert Bish it was quite a stylish outfit though.
That Sherlock Holmes look without the deerstocker and pipe.
Was the What's My Line studio near the CBS theater where did his show? I wonder what he would do between 9 (when left the air) and the 10:30 (actually 10 till for his bit) starting time of this show. Gee, today if you mention Ed Sullivan's name, if you're lucky you might get a response "well he brought the Beatles to America, right". I guess you have to be over 50 to really appreciate how he influenced television.
Part of the reason Sullivan is nearly forgotten? The folks in charge of his interests today are notoriously aggressive about anyone posting anything from the Sullivan shows to RUclips, yet have released basically nothing from the catalog on home video except the Beatles shows. Very short sighted, old fashioned thinking. The result is that one of the best known figures of television for over 20 YEARS, a television institution, is nearly forgotten today except as the guy whose name is on the theater the Letterman show broadcasts from.
What's My Line? I agree, although I wonder how much of that has to do with the basic assumption on the part of the powers-that-be that there isn't sufficient public interest in the material to make reissuing it profitable, versus the financial considerations of paying the copyright fees for all of the musical guests involved. Either way, it comes down to the almighty dollar, unfortunately. Incidentally, they DID release a large DVD box set of some of the iconic pop/rock/R&B performances from the Sullivan show about 10 years ago. It was a very worthwhile purchase, but many of the clips were edited down from their already relatively brief original running times (3-4 minutes, tops) to truncated, 2 minute clips, I believe in order to get through a loophole which allowed the producers to bypass the copyright fees if they kept the clips under a specific amount of time.
Todd Brandt If music clearances are the issue for DVD release, which they very well could be, RUclips is the ideal venue for them to make the material available, as the Carson folks have. On RUclips it would be much more possible to post shows that they lack music clearances for, as long as the music copyright holders don't act toward *them* the way *they* do toward anyone trying to keep this legacy alive by posting Sullivan clips. It becomes a vicious cycle: there isn't enough commercial interest to spend the dough to release the material, so they keep it locked up, the public forgets even more, and the commercial viability is damaged even further.
If nothing else, they could easily post the non musical portions of the shows that likely don't require any clearances. Simply locking the stuff up out of view of the public (outside of that one less than ideal rock and roll set that was a blatant grab at younger consumers) only has the effect of making the material more commercially worthless over time. And they completely fail to grasp that the folks who post this material are doing so because they love the shows and want to see this legacy kept alive, not because they're immoral digital pirates. If they wanted to, they could block all Sullivan videos that are posted by others without going as far as to issue copyright strikes *just as easily*. They've made a conscious, vindictive choice to attack the accounts of folks who want nothing more than to preserve Sullivan's legacy for posterity.
Dick Clark's people are also notoriously vigilant in taking action against those who post clips related to his old shows. It's frustrating and sad, because there is a treasure trove of material out there that, at this rate, will never be seen by future generations (and only passed around by the few "in the know" on grainy, less than ideal bootlegs). Maddening!
Todd Brandt ....Everyone wants to squeeze the public for a nickel and dime whenever its possible for seeing these old shows....money, money, money.!!!
Oh go to heaven & tell Sullivan to stop crying about how Jim Morrison said '' higher '' when he sang - Light my Fire.
What is with that...... thing...... on top of Dorothys hair. I liked Dorothy alot, but i hated her big hair style in the 60s
Styles of the time look odd to us today just as ours will look weird to those 50 years from now
How did Kilgallon get castles? What's on Kilgallons head?
A bow affixed to the top of a girl’s or a young woman’s head was quite fashionable at the time. However, it would have always been carefully placed on straight, especially by the fastidiously attired Dorothy. For that reason I think her hairpiece slipped before she came on the set.
It's hard to keep up: tonight Dorothy looked thin and Arleen looked heavyish.
Sadly, these days, if the mystery guest kissed the panel women, even on the cheek, they'd be sued for sexual harassment.
Hell, these days you could face sexual harassment charges for kissing the BLARNEY Stone.
I wish John Daly wasn't in such a big hurry to get them off stage.
I wonder if the average American knows what a shamrock is. I didn't, so I went to Wikipedia and was quite surprised!
Never had a Shamrock Shake, Joe? ;^)
+Joe Postove
Obviously it would be a fake rock! :-P
Play at least one commercial, please.
Lorna Badeo Am I remembering correctly from the Lee Israel bio of Dorothy you recommended: didn't she have a feud going with Ed Sullivan for a while in the early days of her VOB column? I thought of this in particular when seeing here the relatively rare occasion where a mystery guest (Sullivan) made a big show of affection for Dorothy upon his exit, including a kiss. Theater? Or just poor memory on my part?
I know he was also on another earlier show, but I hadn't read the bio when I last watched that one so I wasn't paying attention to this aspect. :)
What's My Line? oh gosh, i completely forgot anything about any feud with Dolly Mae and Ed!
Lorna Badeo I may very well be remembering wrong. I was hoping you would be able to say, because I can't find the short section of the book I remember this from, which talked about the various columnists' feuds with each other. It's not the greatest index though-- just flipping through the book I caught a couple of references to Sullivan that weren't listed!
What's My Line? goodness. now i really wish i owned it!! which, i can hahaha. didn't you get your copy cheap?
Lorna Badeo 99 cents!
I just read that book and don't remember a feud with Ed Sullivan mentioned.
Edward Mulhare was from Cork. He hud his Cork and Irish accent very well. It must have been quite the struggle to sustain that phony, clipped "upper class" Anglo Saxon accent.
Bennett Cerf had an obsession with questions about animals. 😜
I’m going to take a wild guess that Ed Sullivan was Irish ☘️☘️☘️
BINGO !!!
It is St. Patrick's Day but I think Dorothy thinks it's halloween
dorothy's hair looked rediculous hahahaha
Of course Mulhare, an Irishman would guess Brendan Behan, a poet and IRA terrorist who was sent to prison for plotting to blow up the Liverpool docks.
Yeah What's My Line was pics all the game shows with fictional days remember the big Scandal they all got caught
HUH???
I thought it was cute that Dorothy would suggest Truman Capote. I think WML was a little too staid for him. Although he could behave himself when he wanted to. There is a great episode of Firing Line With Bill Buckley where Truman hitched his personality back at the flamboyancy stable and gave quite a good interview. I would have liked to have seen him on WML, however.
Truman Capote and Groucho on the Dick Cavett show. No more need be said, except anyone who likes either of them, or especially anyone who likes both, needs to see it!
Yes, indeed! In fact I asked the question on one of Cavett's RUclips page videos why is it that there is so much Cavett (on tape yet) from the same period that there is so little Carson. Did ABC not wipe their tapes?
Joe Postove It's a good question. I think the difference is that Cavett owned his programs (pretty sure, since I know Cavett 's company currently owns the library), whereas NBC owns the Tonight show. If Cavett wisely made it a priority to preserve his shows, he wouldn't have have been at the mercy of the network to not wipe the tapes. Just a theory.
What's My Line? Johnny discovered sometime in the 70s that NBC had been recycling the old tapes of the shows without his knowledge, and he ultimately put a stop to that. A large chunk of the final two years in New York (1970-72) is still extant but only form 72 onward in LA is the run entirely intact. The earliest complete color tape show is New Year's Eve, 1965.
I could've sworn I'd seen Truman Capote on one of the WML episodes you've already posted, What's My Line?. Am I wrong? And, if so, Who am I confusing him with? This is driving me crazy!
GATE OF HEAVEN CEMETERY
John had too many names
Interesting when Bennett's talking about the length of John's name that he never adds the "junior" that was at the end. :)
Not unusual for a Catholic person or someone born overseas.
Love Dorothy Kilgallen but that bow. . .
MyMagic 111: Why can't y'all leave Dorothy alone? I have seen both Arlene's and Dorothy's weight fluctuate from week to week or from month to month with no one remarking on Arlene's weight. It seems as if every gesture or sneeze from Doeothy sends everyone into paroxysms of diagniatic fervor. Just stop it.
My last posting was full of errors. Please ignore them unless by some miracle i am able to corrrect them.
The hair bow would look silly on a little girl. But on a grown woman! !
Sillier
We’re these live or taped
live (almost all) in the CBS primetime era Sunday nights (almost)
If I had Dorothy's stylist, I'd abuse substances, too.
Maybe the stylist is flying with her too.
Too bad the sound quality is so poor- (I can barely make out what they're saying).
I could see and hear everything just fine!
Why would you put Shamrocks in your mouth? People ate Shamrocks? Blech!!!
Yes, it's also called wood sorrel or sour dock and has a lemony sour flavor which is indeed good to add to salads. It's a member of the Oxalis family, most of which are edible and actually quite tasty. What's your beef if you haven't actually tasted one?
Why does Arlene keep referring to the celebrities as "boy" and "girl"...its so demeaning....I remember one female celebrity was indignant when Arlene referred to her as a "girl"...her response was "I AM A WOMAN"....
was it Helen Reddy ?
Dorothy. That is RIDICULOUS. 0:50
Who on earth told her thst looks fine?!?
In all seriousness, Dorothy most often strikes me as someone who wants to fit in, wants to be liked, wants to appear on top of things and look anything but silly.....and then she puts her hair up high and ties a bow in it.
Loved old television. Dislike woke television