The Serial Killer Journalist Who Reported His Own Crimes
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- Опубликовано: 25 окт 2023
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It's insane that you need to censor regular words to not get demonetized.
I hate RUclips so much for this bs
RUclips is for children after all.
lol what kind of bs take is that? It's not for children@@OvAeons
@@AagoMcFlyhes being sarcastic
@@OvAeonsIt’s for advertisers to children.
@@aidanm5578 And to make it even better the advertisers themselves get a free pass and can post borderline p*rn
As someone from Macedonia, I have never heard of this story before and growing up in a tiny, unimportant country you never expect to see someone mention it, let alone make a documentary on something that happened here.
Thank you KiraTV for reminding me my country exists.
It has been covered quite a few times in true crime circles. But if you aren't interested in that, there's no way you would've known.
I'm from Serbia, and was quite shocked to learn about it.
The only time I've ever really heard(!) of your country is back when I still watched eurovision.
I'm sure there's plenty of great things about the place I just find it amusing that a lot of us just barely know you exist.
The only thing I remember about Macedonia is they knocked out Italy in world cup qualifiers and one football player from there l remember is Goran Pandev
The thing about small, unassuming countries, is that mysteries like this can only happen within them. The closest thing I can think of that's similar in America is Epstein. And, you know, it's not quite a mystery, everyone knows he was murdered, it's just that the list of potential suspects is so long and contains so many powerful figures that you might as well assume they all collectively hired a hitman.
Unimportant? How can one country be more or less important than the next? Its all earth with hairless primates of slightly differing skin tones and speaking accents standing on it.
i'm a photographer in a newspaper. i worked in a different media that tanevski did, but we get out info for the cases from him. we didnt have a journo in that town. i remember when the police gave a statement that they have a suspect and there was just silence from his media. that raised some eyebrows until we learned about him being the suspect and that he was in custody. and how does someone drown in bucket, we'll never know.
I'm so curious, did you search out stuff about him or did this video just pop up for you? that must've been crazy to live through
@@MartianCandies the video just popped up for me. i do watch similar content. It wasnt that wild. the notion of serial killer didnt come up right away. after the last two murders it was when it rang some alarms. like i said, i am from a different city and idk what was the atmosphere there. but everyone was "yeah, he drowned in a bucket, sure"
@@giottomkd yeah I bet it was more of a slowburn, but that bucket thing had to of been crazy and talked about a bunch, that's what's most wild to me. survival instinct is very powerful, even when inebriated or anything. do you believe he did it? it's weird how they all fit a type. if he did do it why do you think he did? I just love hearing from people who were actually around during when things happened, even if they weren't* directly connected it's cool to just hear about! was it being talked about a lot in your city, how are the cities set up there, did a lot of news from it make it over?
sorry for the late reply mu dude@@MartianCandies. it's not a huge country and everyone heard about it. vlado imho, is the killer.
Interesting video! One theory that wasnt really expanded on was his cellmates claiming to have not seen anything, isnt it possible that they heard about him targetting old ladies and decided to do some jailhouse justice?
All three women personally knowing his mother and even MATCHING her occupation and age-range is kinda hard to ignore altogether. It sounds far too personal a connection to ignore, even very Freudian.
as a Macedonian it’s a surreal feeling to see not only this story, but also a documentary channel reporting on something happening around here
I never knew about this, I'll have to start digging into it. It's like Macedonia's jack the ripper
I've never heard about it either 🤔 In Bulgaria, there are news reports about some of the more horrible crime cases on the balkans. But I never heard about this one coming from our neighbour. It's really frustrating that we would never know if he was the true culprit.
Same, as Macedonian i am following this channel for few months now, great content, did not expected to see a story from Macedonia :)
@kingjames3815 Not again, please 😑 Do you think bullying is doing ANYONE any good on either side?
the way youtube is going, these essays are going to start looking like CIA redacted documents, so much shit you can't say if you want any money for all your work
If I had a nickel for every time a murderer profited off their crimes by writing about them before they were caught, I'd have like 13 at this point.
Which is quite a lot, actually. Why does this keep happening?
Desiring notoriety is one of the personality markers of serial killers. They want people to appreciate their work and be awed by their intelligence.
Interesting thought: the victims were held and among other things, which would need A LOT of attention. Could the wife confirm if he was all of a sudden out a lot when there was a new disappearance?
Its so jarring to hear words being cut out because of censorship, we are truly living in a dystopian world with this corporate mandated "new speak".
I thought this would be about Jack Unterweger, which has left me in a real life "I'd have two nickels" situation.
RUclips censored "hanging" and "sleeping pills"? WTF?
Typical RUclips idiots am I right.
This is getting absurdly ridiculous. The shit they're completely okay with in stark contrast to this insanity...
It's absolute nonsense that you can't even factually report things that did provably happen. I understand the platform needs to have some sort of checks in place so that people don't upload all sorts of horrible stuff, but this is the completely wrong way to do it.
It's because of automodding
@@OrgaNik_MusicI think it's mostly to protect kids from seeing or hearing it... But what fuckin kid is watching a murder documentary. Like really youtube? Plus imo it's not RUclips's job to decide what kids are and aren't allowed to see. It's their god damn parents and this whole, taking away certain things because kids might see it needs to stop. I'm a god damn adult and I can watch a murder doc video with "Bad words" if I want.
"He was only ever aggressive around his parents" is the least convincing piece of evidence I have ever heard. I do not understand how that would be what convinced you.
It’s kind of hard to follow some of the details due to the censorship you have to do if you’re just listening to the audio. If you’re open to some constructive criticism would RUclips still demonetize your video if you were to muffle the words and just blur out the text, or is this the only way to go to keep monetization with content like this?
Definitely agree with it being somewhat difficult to follow what exactly is getting censored. I’m no youtuber, but I know youtube monetization rules are very strict this year & their automated detection system might not like the muffling so this might be the best we can get
For a audio only viewer I also find this kinda hard to follow. I have to play fill the blank with words that would fit the context, if I do not happen to catch the first letter before it gets cut off.
It's kinda silly if you can keep up monetization. Talking about straight up killing someone fine, but mentioning someone offing themselves or taking too many drugs is a not allowed.
I guess it could be different for each person but I listen to these on the bus (audio only) and I could easily fill in the gaps based on part of the word still being heard contextually (died of a suspicious -------se)
I think writing the script in a way to accommodate it would work just as well, for example, rather than "Taneski's father died of a..... then his mother in 2002 took an accidental ov.....", it could be "Taneski's father commited ..... and passed away, followed by his mother in 2002 after accidentally taking too many pills and ....sing."
It adds that extra context that lets you fill in the blanks yourself.
Gonna go ahead and agree as well with this. Other channels do it now and it can be real jarring in particular when they are reading off a list of "No No" words and because of the silence, it just takes you out of it or makes you question it there's a playback issue or such. There's got to be better ways to censor them (Not that they should be censored at all.... Fuck RUclips)
I used to live about 200m from the prison where he epsteined himself in a small bucket of water.
My high school was opposite of the police station, and i vividly remember when the story broke. You know things aren't alright, when they would shamelessly try to sell you this with a straight face on the news. Furthermore, it's strange he got transfered to Tetovo of all places, the darkest most corrupt corner of the whole country, to a prison that has a habit of inmates getting epsteined.
Also check out the Ohrid hammer killer
Too many "hammer killer"s
Yeah the entire story was mad. Anyone paying attention knew what really happened. He had dirt on powerful people.
It’s so arbitrary to me. Was “stroke” bleeped too? And he can describe how the guy killed himself but can’t use the word “suicide”? This feels like a joke!
Lmao, since we're in Macedonia, check out the hammer killer from Ohrid.
Great work as always Kira
It’s just so sad that you have to censor this video so much.
i really enjoyed this, and i was surprised it took so long to pop up on my feed!i love your vids kira, pls never give up!
The real pronunciation of Kicevo is KICHEVO with CH (Č) not C
Eho cares just let it slide and move on. You realize different regions pronounce it differently in Macedonia too.
these videos are top tier ngl, please keep up the work, will always click on your videos.
Awesome video as always!
What about the 4th missing person? You kinda left that thread hanging
If the thread is left hanging it's likely she wasn't found at all
Just found this channel and it is goated
If it was him and he was killed in prison, the missing woman, who was likely still alive due to the others being kept alive before being dumped had no hope of being found. As for drowning in a small bucket yes it's possible, you only need a few inches of water to drown, it only has to cover your nose and mouth.
This is disturbing
Not a friend-o journalists this chap
What a creep
Welcome to Yugoslavia. On the cusp of EU membership, just need to get a bit more professional in sweeping things under the rug.
Just blame it on Russia or whoever the current enemy of the US is and you're good to go.
Thanks
Nice video and great coverage, something I didn't know about.
FYI, the town's pronounciation is bit mis-leading when transitioning from cyrillic to latin.
Kicevo is pronounced Kee-che-vo (where the "ch" is like chocolate).
God damn, the production on these videos 👌
As a Macedonian, I didn’t even know about these murders.
Did he die in the 90s or 2002?? WTF
Soo, i guess your not allowed to say suicide, raped, overdose, etc. So frickin dumb that yt would restrict those words especially considering that kids, most likely, wouldnt be watching this but maybe Kira doesnt want his content to be age-restricted since you wouldn't able to watch it without being signed in so i cant really blame him.
What happened to the 4th woman? Did anyone find her?
HE WAS INOCINEND
Wow.
Didn't the main character in the movie "NightCrawler" do this EXACT same thing?
It's also interesting that the 4th missing woman, Gorica Pavleska, was never found.
This fact is consistent with our journalist being responsible.
He was arrested soon after Gorica's disappearance, and she was therefore not given the same treatment as the first 3 victims.
If he wasn't done with the body, wouldn't it have been easier to find? He couldn't have disposed of it yet, so it should have been somewhere he had easy access to.
@@dracorex426 It's possible he had the body hidden while he dealt with it to his liking, and thus he was arrested before he could plant it someplace to be found. Not saying it is likely at all, just that that is probably what the OP was thinking about.
Did the fourth woman get rescued?
I’m glad I’m not the only one wondering!!
Gosh I bet this would be a great video to watch. Sadly all this ad spamming is to much. 30-45 sec ads every 4-6min..
You don't use an ad blocker? That's masochistic.
If I enable one, they simply blocked all videos from playing. I have to pay to become ad free...@@princeofcupspoc9073
macedonia mentioned
wtf
Wow, that is sick. A journalist of all people.
2:43 is RUclips censoring anything to do with suicide or something? Shouldn't it be talked about more rather than being censored?
If it's censored, It does not exist then. 🙈🙉🙊
Have I opend YT Kids by mistake? I fucking hate censoring words...
That is some Heavy Rain sh!t right there!
Sounds like an abundance of reasonable doubt
Well doesn't RUclips just suck, I love living in 1984 where we have to use Newspeak to comply with the demands of our overlords. Have you considered alternate platforms for content like this eg. Nebula, Curiositystream, Floatplane? I assume you have it's just a thought. Great video!
You can curse as much as you want on RUclips. They'll just pay you less if you do. 🤷 It's not actually true censorship in a traditional sense.
The graphics in your video are nice
Great video bruh
Great. Now the word "overdose" is flagged by the youtube censors. May as well restrict videos to a pretty color with no audio.
That's nothing, if you beep out words it _flags the beep sound_ .
Why is overdose is being censored I don't understand RUclips
Interesting stuff as always but my dude, 56 is not elderly lol
The amount of censoring required for RUclips to not have its feelings hurt is just getting silly at this point. Jesus
Fuck me, your can't use the Lord's name in vain! Don't you mean "Je***"?!
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Theres a hybrid documentary movie for this case, the movie’s name is Mothers (Majki) from the director Milcho Manchevski
From this video i can`t belive he is the person staying behind this . Even if is hes deal 100% behind him are 2 or 3 more persons to pushing him to the edge of this. For me the real monster is still out there.
youtube really out here with unnecessary censoring while they don't do shit about garbage like sssniperwolf...
I saw the tittle and thought it was a confession video
I'm not making a joke, but, 7:40 reminds me of the movie "Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid"... sorry.
It's pronounced like *Kitchevo*
If they wantd the journalis gone there wuld have been easier ways. So it seems more likely he did it.
he's the Peter Parker and the Spiderman , but bad
It's really f up and one of the most disgusting and disturbing things I've ever heard of. How can people be such inhuman? Really? What has the world come to? Demonetizing video for normal words like suicide or cancer? Oh, and the serial killer story was also a bit disturbing.
Do you consider maybe uploading to alternate platforms like odyssey as well? Where you could speak on normal grown up topics freely?
What about the fate of the last victim - you said just she gone missing - is that it?
3:45 "for around 6"....days, weeks, months???
2:56 Those sound chops are really annoying
was he the monster? well first you have to ask did the crimes stop after his passing
Great video. Is there anyway to push back against this censorship bs.
noti gang
Typical modern journalist, has to make news themselves as opposed to just reporting.
To be fair, this guy did gonzo journalism in a much more based way than Hunter S. Thompson.
@@desertdude540damn lol
where do you live that this is typical?????
i completely understand why, but this cencoring stuff is getting fucking ridiculous. and i fully blame youtube
And during that time, some people break the rules without real punishments.
So fair...
Real World Peter Parker
The silent censoring of whole group of words makes it very hard to follow by just listening! I hope there’s another way to do this.
Fire content as always!
Sadly the filters are always listening and will withdraw the reward tokens for badspeak. I agree it's awful but there's not much that can be done without jumping ship to another platform and losing the reward tokens anyway.
@@beskamir5977 I’m sure he can use a blip noise on a single contentious word instead
@@TomatePasFraiche Maybe. But then the filters have punished people (cough Eli the Computer Guy) with a lisp for mispronouncing a neutral word into a bad word. Worse still manual review just read the automated transcript rather than actually listen to what was being said.
@@beskamir5977 yeah that’s true. As long as the prompt is not filled using predictability they shouldn’t infer words that are censored though
Kira we both know you miss doing article reads about Web3 on your second channel
Omg that Ljubica pronunciation😛
Its funny that here in Macedonia i have never met anyone that have heard of this guy and we are only like 2 milion population.
What happened to the fourth woman? Was she found dead after this man was jailed?
I don't even know whats happening all the important events are censored
Isn’t it weird how the women killed look similar to his wife?
like Jack Unterweger
Censored audio. What a thing I thought this was America
Kira's a Brit living in Thailand.
I mean it's youtube's monetisation so ye
this episode was too scary for me 🙈 I like happy silly hacking stories!! 😊
he looks just like OJ...
Why there is audio missing at some points xd
as Macedonian good work, except for the pronunciation. Macedonian language has accent rule - the accent in a word is on the third vowel, counting from the back of the word or if there is less then 3 vowels in a word, the accent is on the last vowel counting from the back of the word.
And for Macedonian crimes, you can make 1 video / month for the rest of your life and still you won't cover them all.
For some of them you will need assistance from the US Embassy in Skopje, because they only know the details of a specific crime
😮 Jesus! Same in Bulgaria. The mafia here is having an internal power struggle, and it's like an action movie, with bodies popping up here and there. But I'm scared to learn more about innocent victims. A lot of reporters got killed or beaten the past few years too...
How is America involved in the Macedonian cases? Why are they so informed?
It's a bit misleading focusing on "bruises" as though it was clearly suspicious.
"The autopsy of Vlado Taneski’s body revealed death by drowning. His lungs were full of water. His head had remained submerged long after the loss of consciousness. There were no defensive injuries, no outward signs of violence, except for a small bruise on his forehead and the bridge of his nose-perhaps incurred during the initial stage of spasms."
This video combined with reported evidence is implying he was killed without incurring anything other than minor injuries, and his cellmates with none.
There are also multiple reports of people killing themselves in exactly the same manner, with zero suspicion of anyone else being involved.
People are regularly very willing to accept bizarre actions when someone is the murderer, but highly unwilling when it's passive "unexciting" actions such as killing themselves. Not to mention he obviously wasn't a normal person with normal impulses.
I'm certainly not saying it's impossible that someone else did it, but that there's almost always an audience-driven heavy bias towards the more "exciting" alternative, including in cases where the evidence is overwhelming.
Best RUclipsr on this app you deserve all the success you get
04:15 nov 2004 -> nov 2007 = 4 years ?
that's only 3 years difference. not 4.
Why do you spoil such a bombshell twist in the video title instead of slowly building up to the reveal in the end? Would a video called "The Kicevo Monster" not make enough money or what?
Because after making videos for 4 years I understand that twists very rarely work on the platform. This video didn't do well, because youtube don't like topics like this in the first place and unless your video is a true crime channel that has returning fans that click on all your true crime videos, you have to put the best foot forward in trying to get clicks, otherwise it's simply not worth making.
@@KiraTV1 Many thanks for your reply, and I'm sorry to hear this video didn't do well because it's as fantastic as your other work. It's a shame that you have to resort to using a sub-title for the video name instead of the proper title of the documentary because I feel it cheapens an otherwise brilliant piece of work, but then again like you said, the videos have to still be worth the time invested in them for the whole venture to be worth it, and I guess that directly translates to clicks.
For the love of God make an uncensored version for Rum. Ble or Bit. Chute.
Then why are you censoring yourself??
@@HeroSword_P RUclips doesn't like it when you mention competitors.
@@Sonamyfan875Is that actually true or are you just messing? What do they do if you mention them? Remove your comment? Delete your account? I want to test it now lol. I'd say those but I honestly have no idea what those words are meant to be.
@@luckytanuki5449 Remove the . and space between. Comments usually get hidden. They're alternate video websites.
This case has a massive red flag like how you convict someone without evidence the system sound fed up
They did have evidence. He wasn't convicted though, because he died before it could go to trial.
Was it too hard to look up a pronunciation guide or ask someone? Or put it in Google translate and have it play back to you? No one's asking for perfection but it comes off as disrespectful when you can't be bothered to research enough to pronounce the victims' names even approximately. Like you're forgetting that there are real people involved while looking up gruesome deaths.
Gorica - go ree tsa
Simjanoska - like seem ya no ska
Ljubica Licoska - liu bee tsa lee tso ska
Kičevo - kee cheh voh
Any time you see a j, it's like a consonant y. That's why Skopje is scope-yeh, not scope-jeh
In the vast majority of languages, a always makes the sound it does in father, e usually makes a sound like it does in bed or hey, i is almost always like ee in see, o is like caught or boat, u is like the oo in moon.
C is a letter that's weird so each language has it's own rules, but in general it's like ours in French, Spanish, and Portuguese, makes a ch sound where ours makes an s in Italian and Romanian (and church Latin), is always k only in Irish and Scottish (and ancient Latin), and is generally ts in Eastern European languages, with č generally being ch.
Really glad you put a comment here- it feels like no one cares to pronounce names correctly :(
Would you prefer he just not reported on anything that isn't English? The pronunciation shouldn't be the thing you're focusing on. I have a difficult to pronounce last name and I don't care when people get it wrong because it doesn't matter.
@@luckytanuki5449 I mean if he can't put the research in for something he's supposed to be researching and putting together, yeah. It's not like he's reading your name off an attendance sheet or a badge the first time, this is something that should be part of his fact collecting stage, the same as finding out the people's life details and evidence in the case. If I can't trust him to get the names right why should I trust him to get details like marriages right? That also doesn't really matter when first meeting someone - but it colors details pertinent to a case like this.
It didn't come up in this case, but if this kind of issue came up in a video of an East Slavic case or similar inattention to detail like that could even potentially obscure important information to a murder. Like it's the kind of thing that could obscure the relationships between hypothetical people named things like Ilja Aleksejevič, Pjotr Iljič, and Marija Iljinična, a especially if he was inconsistent about the pronunciation of the common names.
It's also, again, a mark of respect. These people weren't murdered for your entertainment. Whenever there's a question of an innocent man in jail, he's not there to be gawked at. The reason people study these cases is to learn to prevent such things from reoccuring, to seek or reinforce proper justice, or to remember the victims as the human beings they were. It's the lattermost that matters - putting research into these people and trying to remember them in a way is like getting to know them. Sure you wouldn't fault someone who just met you for getting name wrong, and you'd never need exacting correctness, but wouldn't you be hurt if someone trying to act in your name couldn't even get an anglicized approximation of your name right? It's like if a friend never even tried to learn your name. Not asking anyone to bring out their best French R or pronounce tl or km or whatever at the beginning of a word, but even if your name were Ksenija I'm sure you'd be hurt if someone claiming to be honoring your memory called you kuh zinn dzha or something, when the English approximation you prefer is zen nee ya.
So like, honestly, yeah. If he's just going to read me rewritten wikipedia articles I'd rather just be pointed to read the wikipedia articles.
@@tovarischkrasnyjeshi You wrote all that just for me not to read past the first section where you said how can you trust him to get the info right if he can't even get the name right. Because the name doesn't fucking matter. That's not the important part of the story. It's not like he spelled it wrong. There's a big difference between saying the name wrong because it's foreign and difficult to pronounce, and straight up getting the research facts wrong. If that is really what got your panties in a bunch, then yes he shouldn't make doc's on anything not English. Fuck all the interesting stories to make a video on in other parts of the world. Clearly it's not worth it if people like you are gonna get held up on a simple mispronunciation.
I was curious about the story, but the censored audio is unbearable.
In Slav language C is never a K. You read it as it's written. Why you say Kicevo when you got all the rest wrong? In your logic you should have said KiKevo
No, in English, a "C" followed by an "E" is far more commonly prounounced like a "S". That's why he made that assumption.
the worst part is you have to censor your speech to make this video.
Damn thought I would be first...
The censorship is unacceptable. You are on the wrong platform.