DynoJet Auto Tune Kit Review at RevZilla.com
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
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The Dynojet AutoTune kit is an excellent choice for riders looking for on-the-fly fuel adjustments. By analyzing your exhaust gas, the AutoTune is able to modify your fuel/air ratio many times per second, delivering maximum horsepower and performance, so you can concentrate on riding.
Id like for you guys to take two identical stock bikes, add identical stage I pipes and a/c then use the Dynojet auto tune on one and Fuelpak3 on the other. Then head to the dyno and see which one gives the best results.
yes, this^
They won't be able to sell the product cause it probably doesn't do anything lol
I bet it runs better at least
Percent. Some stuff runs lean and some rich. This corrects it for proper burn
@@HitKLHman its not even their product nor would they lose anything from that lmao
why should they, if you tell one injector to inject at 3500rpm on 10% throttle 20cc of fuel it doesnt matter what map or commander is powering or controlling that ... its not rocket science
A wideband O2 sensor doesn't offer any additional functionality like suggested in the video, it merely allows you to monitor a wider band of O2 readings for when the AFR falls outside that which a narrow band sensor can handle.
It opens up additional functionality in Autotune.
Here's the part number for any one that needs to replace the O2 sensor. DynoJet is ridiculous with their price. "Bosch 17205 Oxygen Sensor"
Thanks just picked it up for 50 bucks 🤙🏽🤙🏽
Will this make your bike sound like T pain when you rev it up?
Revzilla always has good vids.
Sean Wallace Thanks! -DrewZilla
i am kind of sold. have a Power commander V on my Ktm 1290 Super Duke GT, i need to get it dyno tuned but now the autotune sounds the best option.
Getting the bike dyno tuned will generally provide the most peak horsepower/torque, but an auto tune kit is a nice addition if there are no tuners locally or you tend to ride at different altitudes or throw on new parts frequently. -TeamZilla AJ
Let say I already have a power commander but want to add this too to my full system. I won’t need a servo buddy? I’ll just connect this in part with the Power commander n this will control the air/fuel ratio to at any alt I’m at without having to deal with it again on the PC?
If I plan on getting a Dyno tune then I wouldn't need this correct? Or would it be good to fine tune the dyno runs?
If you plan on getting a dyno tune, then no, you do not need an auto-tuner. -DrewZilla
A friend of mine just put fuel injection on his Kawasaki ZX9R project bike. A 2003 Kawasaki Z1000 harness with a Z1000 ECU. He also installed a set of ZX10 R throttle bodies with 2 port injectors. A Dyno jet PC 5 from a Honda CB 1000RR was used and it wires right up. Does the Auto Tune need to run all of the time or should it be disconnected once it discovers the correct A/F ratio?
I've got a Power Vision without the Auto Tune kit. I'm pretty happy with it, as I feel my bike has equal performance to other bikes I have test ridden with larger engines. I am concerned about making an expensive purchase and time consuming install to fix a bike that isn't broke. I welcome your response. I've made exhaust and air cleaner mods, but no cams or throttle body changes. At this time I like my bike so much I doubt I'm ever going to do any of those changes.
7heRedBaron If you like how the bike runs right now, leave it be. -DrewZilla
How does it work? I mean once isntalled, will it modify the air fuel ratios on its own, or is it that we will have to constantly use computer to upload the readings onto the map?
answer this
Yes, it “auto-tunes” it. It tells it how much fuel it needs at that specific moment.
is the single channel kit still a 18mm sensor?
Are these units waterproof?
if I were to run a dry nitrous kit on my bike would the auto tune see the extra oxygen and add the needed fuel?
No. Auto tune doesn't happen on the fly. You set the device to read the O2 sensors, then after your ride, you attach it to your computer, review the recommended changes to the fuel map, then load the updated map onto the Power Commander. -DrewZilla
how fast does a map swith swith on the 2nd map and can u swith while riding I'm adding nitrous to my bike and was thinking about wiring the map switch to my micro switch so wen the micro switch turns on it turns on the nitrous and 2nd map on at the same time and run the 2nd map rich and wen u let off the micro switch turn off nitrous and back to map 1 will that work ? thanks
That could work potentially, though I recommend reaching out to DynoJet directly for more detailed advice. Dynojet.com or 1-800-992-4993. -DrewZilla
This is something that I want to install in my 2016 v-rod muscle, I want add between 15hp to 25hp! Any recommendations?
You would need a Power Commander V, this Auto Tune Kit (for 12mm O2 Sensors, yes it fits 2016), as well as an exhaust and air cleaner to make those kinds of gains. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/dynojet-power-commander-v-for-harley-v-rod-2012-2016
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/dynojet-auto-tune-kit-for-power-commander-v-for-harley-j1850-2006-2013
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/kn-air-filter-for-harley-v-rod-2002-2015
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/bassani-road-rage-b1-exhaust-system-for-harley-v-rod-2007-2017
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/akrapovic-open-line-2-into-1-exhaust-system-for-harley-v-rod-2009-2016
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/vance-hines-competition-series-2-into-1-exhaust-for-harley-v-rod-muscle-2009-2017
Hey there... Do i still need to take my bike to a dyno after installing the auto tuner??
no
work on 2024 harley ? 117 ??? cam install
Thanks for the great video. I just ordered from you guys and installed a yosh r77 and waiting for my autotune, pc5 and blockoff plate to arrive too. The yosh r77 has 2 plugs, 1 is 12mm for stock sensor and 1 is 18mm for autotune. Once i install the autotune, i will remove the 18mm cap on the exhaust and install wide band sensor that comes with autotune. What should i do with the 2nd sensor? Can i leave it plugged in? Do i need to remove it? Do you have an install video?
I have a 2017 yamaha r3.
We do not have an install video. As for the stock sensor, you can leave it in place but disconnected from the wiring harness or get a 12mm plug for the 12mm bung and remove the stock sensor. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/kuryakyn-o2-sensor-port-plugs
RevZilla thanks!!!
You're welcome! -DrewZilla
So I have a CBR600 F4I, do you still use the stock oem sensor while using these? Or do you just unplug it completely?
Will I need to do a first initial tune if I'm installing a pc v and the at-200 @ the same time?
Or do I just wire everthing up and the at will help my pc v get tuned?
Thanks.
If I already have the 18mm bung, it should be a no-brainer, right? I've heard some horror stories with dyno operators, and I dont NEED every hp squeezed out since my bike is already a beast. 2015 Rocket III. I just want it to run safely, smoothly and be good when I change altitudes
Yes, that is correct. -DrewZilla
Great tutorial!
Problem- cannot find my bike, '14 CBR250, on your site.
I apologize, but Dynojet does not offer an auto-tune kit for the CBR250R. -DrewZilla
Have you seen the ridiculous size of the O2 sensors? They need to add that it always require fabrication to install into your exhaust. No support from Dynojet and unintelligent response. Might as well plan to spend $250+ for a shop to drill and weld new holes. Then they suggest to have the bike dyno costing even more. Very poor planning on Dynojet.
Adam Z they are tricky, I'm installing two on my vtx1800 and it's very hard to hide them. I had to order stainless steel bungs since the kit comes with carbon, but I just picked the spots with the most room and made a mark. Then I used a harbor freight step drill to make the hole, pulled the exhaust and found someone that could weld stainless and he did it for free! so it may not be as many beards difficulty as it sounds.
What about the original sensor harness ? I believe i will receive engine light for lambda sensor, since for the original ECU there is no lambda sensor
First, you have to see whether this kit is even compatible with your specific year, make, and model of motorcycle. -DrewZilla
I already purchased and installed the PCV and a AKRAPOVIC full exhaust on my Kawasaki 650 2019 however, there’s no predefined map for my specific parts so I’m thinking to buy the auto tune from you guys . Is it just a plug and play type of installation or do I need to manually set the trims, the tables and the maps?
It's more like a plug in, ride, unplug, connect to PC, accept changes, plug back into PCV. -DrewZilla
RevZilla thank you for the support ;)
@@RevZilla I know this is an old video but I thought the idea of "Auto tune" was that it works without having to plug it into a PC and accept anything?
@@persico9017 TL:DR at the bottom.
The way I understand it, you only "need" to accept the changes while it's initially learning.
By default, the autotune can only add or subtract 20% fuel from the base map (this can be changed). If there isn't a map that's close, it may be necessary in the beginning to accept the fuel changes multiple times to ensure it can add or subtract enough fuel to properly tune the bike. Everytime you accept the changes, the trims are loaded into the fuel map and the trim table is reset, allowing for the autotune to again add or subtract 20% fuel.
Once its had the chance to learn what the bike wants on all parts of the fuel map, you can accept the changes one last time and it will have 20% trim to account for any environment changes day to day. Now it will be 100% autotune with no input required.
TL:DR - The base fuel map won't be perfect in any case, so the autotune will do its best to learn what the bike wants and adjust the fuel trim table as you ride. If you are happy with the table it makes, you click accept and it uploads the changes to the fuel map. Now it will only need to make small adjustments to account for atmospheric conditions.
Hi do I have to buy Power commander V with Auto Tune or I can buy just auto tune ??
How critical is it to weld the bungs at 10°?? If so what direction should it be leaning towards to? Cylinder or exhaust? Can i weld then in the same position as the stock one?
It's critical that it's 10 degrees at a minimum above the horizontal plane. It can be more, but it should not be less. If on a vertical section of the header, that means the sensor will point towards the exhaust. If on a horizontal section of tube, it would generally be perpendicular to the header tube. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/assets/0000/0569/AT-200.pdf
my 18 model bmws1000rr has 12000 km just brought it second hand ..but I hate how gerky it is at low revs low speed 40 kph in second gear in traffic it's not fun and smooth ..local bmw bike shop said it's fine he took it for a ride ..now I'm going for a second opinion where the bike was brought ...Will this power pcv give me a more constant smooth rev at around 1500 to 4 thousand RPM. if bmw can't fix my issue. ???
Possibly if that area of the fuel table is a little enrichened, but it's not a guarantee. -DrewZilla
anyone intall this on a 04 05 06 r1????
I have and it's amazing, takes away many many hours of tuning , and it learns with your bike and mods added so you dont need a tune for every single thing
Is there an adaptor for 12mm O2 sensor to 18mm in order to add this auto tune to my PCV without welding any bung? It would make everybody's life easier. lol
No, there are only adapters for putting a 12mm sensor into an 18mm bung. You cannot put an 18mm sensor into a 12mm bung, since the O2 sensor needs to be down in the exhaust stream. You would need to have the 18mm bung welded on. -DrewZilla
Yes that makes sense, thank you DrewZilla
Main question I have here is if the autotune needs to be paired up with a Power Commander V? Or is it a stand alone?
It has to be paired with a power commander v. I got a auto tuner attached to my motorcycle today.
hey great video as always, but i had problems with mine, the autotune keep blinking after i start the engine, the afr also show 9,99, i wire the the black cable to negative side of battery, but red i can't seem find brake light wire, any ideas how to plug the red wire?
You need to find a switched wire. If you still have difficulty, I recommend contacting DynoJet directly for more in-depth troubleshooting. -DrewZilla
*www.powercommander.com/powercommander/contact/powercommander_technical_support.aspx
I have the power commanded and auto tuner on my 2015 triumph Daytona 675r but when I set up my tune from dynojet I selected my closest mods, should I get a dyno tune? Great video though 👍🏼
How does it feel? Faster? Ive seen people dyno with that setup gain 15 hp or even 20?
No dyno required
Do I have to weld on the stock exhaust on a KTM RC 390 2018? And what about on the Tyga Serpent dual exhaust? Which of these two upgrade parts will give me more gains in horsepower?
Yes, I believe the stock exhaust has a 12mm O2 bung, but the DynoJet Auto Tuner uses an 18mm O2 sensor and bung. You will need to have the larger bung welded to the header. I believe the Tyga exhaust also has a 12mm bung. However, you should ask them directly if they make them with 18mm bungs. If you install the Tyga, you would probably need to install a Power Commander V anyway. I recommend the exhaust and a Power Commander V. -DrewZilla
Do i have to remove the old sensor cuz i still have it on there plug in???
Yes, you'll need to remove the stock sensor. If your exhaust has a 12mm bung, you'll need to have an 18mm bung welded on. If your exhaust already has an 18mm bung, then the Dynojet O2 sensor will screw right in. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/dynojet-auto-tune-kit-for-power-commander-v
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/bazzaz-o2-sensor-bung
Hey remy have you ever owned a pc5 with or without auto tune?
so is this a standalone system or do you need to have power commander and hook this up to it ?
It's an accessory for either the Power Commander or the Power Vision. It is not a standalone item. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/product/dynojet-auto-tune-kit-for-power-commander-v
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/dynojet-auto-tune-kit-for-power-commander-v-for-harley
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/dynojet-auto-tune-kit-for-power-vision-for-harley
Do i need to download map for PCV if i have both PCV and Autotune?
Yes, you still need to start with a base tune. You then use the autotune feature to adjust that base tune. -DrewZilla
Thanks a lot. Very helpful
Thanks a lot. Very helpful
i just bought a pcv for my s1000rr 2010 model,i am installing full system exhaust,so if i install an outo tune i will not be needing a dyno run?not even once?just like to be set the first time?
With the PCV, you would download the appropriate fuel map using the Power Commander software. If you are satisfied with the downloaded fuel map, then you don't even need auto tune. You only need auto tune if you feel you need to make additional changes to the fuel map already made for your selected exhaust. Regardless, you generally don't need a dyno run. If using auto tune, you have to ride the bike with the auto tune set to record data. After riding, you use the Power Commander software to accept the auto tuner's suggested changes. -DrewZilla
I’m sorry, I’m still confused. Isn’t the idea of fuel injection and a computer to adjust the A/F mixture for you? Why can’t stock systems adjust the A/F mixture to a new exhaust or air filter?
It's generally outside the range of adjustment. Additionally, you generally want a richer target mixture than stock at different point of the fuel map. -DrewZilla
RevZilla Interesting. Thanks for the reply. Looks like a good possible mod down the road.
If you're satisfied with current performance, then you're probably fine. If you're getting a lot of decel popping and slow throttle response, you might benefit from a fuel tuner and auto tuner. -DrewZilla
Hi i use sc project exhaust for my Yamaha r1 2018. And the pipe is split to two or Y connection its okay to weld the bung to one of the pipe or i need to be weld in the End of Y connection to be the reading is accurate?
You would either weld the bung in the same position where the stock exhaust's bung was or after the Y where all 4 headers come together. -DrewZilla
I have a power vision. This auto tune in conjunction just basically makes the adjustments for me instead of me having to flash in new maps with changing conditions and altitude? Am I correct?
No, you still have to flash a map. The auto tune just acts as a dyno on the street. You enable auto tune mode, go out for a ride, save the auto tune results as a new map, and then you flash that map to the bike. It does not alter your fuel map in real time while riding. -DrewZilla
RevZilla, your response to Ghost0361's question is incorrect. Here's an excerpt from PowerCommander's website:
"Once installed, the Auto Tune kit monitors the fuel mixture (by installing the included Wide Band O2 sensor in the exhaust). It then sends this information to the Power Commander V and automatically corrects it while you ride. "
"The Auto Tune kit can be configured to run and correct at all times or by using the "map switch port" on the PCV."
So based on this info it will make the adjustments while riding thereby improving the ride, but it won't flash it to the PCV. So the next time you go for a ride, if you didn't accept the AutoTune trims after your ride with the AutoTune running, it will revert back to the base map previously loaded and saved into the PCV and start correcting again from scratch.
So based on the above post. Is it best to leave the auto tune always on the “run and correct at all times” setting? Or is it best to save the map that it recommended after each ride?
Does this make it so I wouldn't need a custom map if I added a decat and open air box? Ktm run super lean so idk if I'd need this or not
Yes bro
Great video!
Do u have to tune ur bike on your computer after u have riden it with the auto tune or does it do it for u
You have to use the computer program to actually update the Power Commander with the recommended changes from the Auto-Tuner. -DrewZilla
Well this is weird, I got the auto tune kit. Power vision told me the reason it’s not working is because I have to weld a second set of bungs and run my stock sensors plus these wide band sensors. They said I need the target tune to just plug everything in and go. Right now every light on my dash is on and the power visions is giving me the codes wbf! And wbr! Meaning o2 sensors not ready. It’s been a real pain had a bunch of motor work done and my ,echanic was told by power vision this was the kit we needed but now they are saying no we need target tune, ya know an extra 250.
Hi i have 2017 yamaha R3 and it has pcv already. And thinking getting autotune also but i have question what should i get the single or the dual? Pls help me out with this matter thanks.
The R3 uses the Single Channel AT-200. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/dynojet-auto-tune-kit-for-power-commander-v
Thanks dreww
So if I have one of these do I not need a dyno tuning?
No apparently it will install the proper tune over time.
Would this thing work with methanol?? Or just gas
brianx04 Yes, it can work with methanol. In fact, it's almost a requirement for micro sprint racers and motorcycle riders using methanol. -DrewZilla
Are these good for running dry shot nitrous?
This is a better question for Dom Toretto! More seriously, a modification of this type has a million different ways to go wrong and is best addressed by a qualified motorcycle mechanic who is experienced in such installations. -DM
Do I have to buy a power commander with this auto tune?
Yes, DynoJet Auto Tune Kits require either a Power Commander or a Power Vision in order to use. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/dynojet-auto-tune-kit-for-power-commander-v
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/dynojet-auto-tune-kit-for-power-commander-v-for-harley
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/dynojet-auto-tune-kit-for-power-vision-for-harley
Do I need a power commander to use auto tune?
Yes, you need a Power Commander to use the Auto Tune add-on. -DrewZilla
My bike is hard to start (turning over and over and over again) will auto tune fix that?
Possibly, but it's not a guarantee. It's hard to diagnose the issue via RUclips unfortunately. -DrewZilla
Will this kit deal with timing issues?
I have a 2014 Street Triple ABS, I checked the PC website and found no maps for my combination of air filter and exhaust. I don't have a dyno anywhere close to me so tuning it there is out of question. If I get PCV and autotune, how would I go about tuning my bike or get a base map?
You'd use the closest map as a base map, then use Autotune to customize the map from there. -DrewZilla
would the stock map work? Most of the slipons I am assuming have similar characteristics, would I be able to use a map developed for another slip on?
Yes, you could start with the stock map as your base map...or you can start with a map for another slip-on. -DrewZilla
thanks so much mate!
is it possible to tune your bike after exhaust installation without using a fuel pak?
+kevin immoos For fuel-injected bikes, you need a fuel controller in order to "tune" the bike yourself after exhaust installation. That could be a Dynojet Power Commander, Dynojet Power Vision, Vance & Hines Fuelpak or FP3. -DrewZilla
Awesome thank you for the info much appreciated!! Keep up the good work!!
RevZilla Which of all these will be the best one
will this work on a 79 xs 1100 with a dyno jet kit?
No, this is only for fuel-injected bikes. It does not work with carburetors. -DrewZilla
can i use the auto tune kit for the power commander 3?
No, the Auto Tune Kit is only for the Power Commander V. Apologies for any inconvenience. -DrewZilla
Is there any adjustment that needs to be made with a computer? Will it require Dyno time to make these adjustments so the bike never runs to lean? The pro that is installing mine has mixed feelings about this over a map. I am trying to figure out why.
Yes, you will need a PC to use and accept the Auto Tuner recommended changes. You do not need a dyno, though, as you can do the auto-tuning on the street. -DrewZilla
I watched some videos. From what I can tell... Autotune reads the A/F ratio, makes corrections, then tells you what corrections it made and recommends a better map for the PC. Is that right?
Almost. The Auto Tuner reads the data from the O2 sensors. It doesn't make corrections by itself. After completing a ride in Auto Tune mode, you connect to the computer (or use the Power Vision) and apply the A/F ratio recommendations to improve your map. You then save the new map to the Power Commander or Power Vision. -DrewZilla
Clear as day. I am going to plug it in later. There are videos on YT that explain step by step too. Thanks.
Just uploaded my 3rd map adjustment with the AT and the bike runs perfect, it takes 3 rides and uploads to work out the imperfections according to PC instructions. It was very easy. No popping at all! I gave 5 stars on your site. Thanks!
I have a 2008 Kawasaki zx14. Has the PCV with Kenny Rogers KR Tuned slip ons. I plan on taking out the 2nd set of butterflies, installing the 2006/2007 exhaust header (ungrade from mine. Has no cats) and leave it rest stock. I have a map off your site that was recommended by one of the dyno jet techs but it is not that great. I live in Meridian Idaho and go up into the mountains. In the Valley it's average 2300-2600 elevation. Mountains go up to 5000k plus. How well will this work for me? Will it adjust fast and smooth where I will not see my fuel range jump all over the place like it does now? I can weld the bung in no problem there.
The Auto Tuner does not adjust fuel maps on-the-fly. It just allows you to make a map based on your modifications. It might help you get an improved map for your elevation though. -DrewZilla
Dyno jet doesn't stand by there commanders , and if you call and ask to speak with a manager they won't let you. They will take your # and have a warranty manager call you back.
To me and my problem I got no help even with my 2 week old commander .
+R Shay I'm sorry to hear that. What issue are you encountering with the Power Commander? -DrewZilla
+RevZilla
yes , a power commander v
+R Shay Ok thanks, What issue are you having with the Power Commander V? -DrewZilla
Wtf
Best
I don't like o2 sensors to much problems
Hazard Nation Nonsense!
So helpful!
2-3 beards 😂
Take that ring out of your nose. I had to,stop watching. Not up to zivzilla standards.
+boerboel313 Grow up,
Stfu and let people have their individuality, just because you don't like it or can't join the rest of us in the 21st doesn't mean someone should have to change how they look because you don't like it. Grow up
@@jackscape5478 LOL
You must be from Ms.