This 22 second vid is exactly what I needed, thanks!. Anyone with a new mb with seperate channels audio jack set up but you have a powered audio system that gets audio signal input from just one small head phone jack, just plug into your center channel on the mb and everything will work fine. {have old Altec Lansing pc audio system with a right and left stereo speaker and sub-woofer}
Used this video to confirm that my second pair of Hifiman Sundara's does indeed have a channel imbalance. Gonna keep my first pair. Thanks a ton for the video
With headphones another trick is listen to mono and wear them backwards: L ear in R cup and R ear in L cup. If the imbalance migrates to the other side you indeed have an imbalanced pair. If it stays on the same side its your hearing.
Exact placement of the headphones unfortunately comes into play too. With circumaural (around the ear) designs tightness of the seal, the distance of the driver from the eardrum, and the headphones' position up/down and forward/backward changes the intensity as you reposition it a few millimeters. I sometimes notice with music a slight shift in the center sound stage to one side can be corrected by moving my other earcup slightly forward. This may be acoustic (meaning the intensity from the right is then increased) or it could be psychoacoustic meaning your PERCEPTION of the sound from the exact side direction is not as good as when the sound moves slightly inward to your forward hemisphere. Note how the pinna (the outer ear) is not a symmetrical cone shape and is instead designed to bias the acoustical amplification of FRONTAL sounds.
This is the only test I can find that gives a centre position and not just left and right . My exact centre was actually off to the right by a good margin . I was able to move the speakers until the centre sound was accurate . Many thanks !!
I think so too because every time I listen to music adjusting this as the center everything is off to the left, when I adjust for everything else this is to the right
The locations were from a guy walking around either a stereo mic or a pair of mono mics so there are both slight mic imbalances, room echo, and also channel bleed (Notice how if you disconnect one speaker you still faintly hear, say, the Left channel when the Right speaker is the only one still connected.) Most content we experience is made differently with a mono mic in front of the announcer and then the placement is more precisely set using pan pots on a mixing console, electrically not acoustically.
Good to hear. Also keep in mind that although a meter/app/program may show the levels are balanced, hence there should be good imaging, that doesn't take into consideration that our hearing isn't always perfectly balanced, even if we are "normal". Similarly if you ask people who wear eyeglasses if their prescription for their L and R eye are identical they often aren't. Also the pickup pattern of your Omni mic (or whatever mic it is) is fairly "omindirectional", our ears aren't: they favor certain directions and certain frequencies while discounting others. The final arbiter is your own perception.
Nice video. my studio monitors have the independent volume so this is perfect for getting the center imaging with the speakers. only gripe I would have would be that it'd be nice if the left, center and right were longer on the video so I wouldn't have to keep rewinding the video each time but that's minor.
If you start playback and then right click the image (at least I know with most browsers using Windows) there's an option for "Looping" the video indefinitely. Works great.
I think using the specific type of mic they used to make this in a sense, "yes", the L and R are out of phase. I know when you play this test in Dolby Pro Logic 2 that content is manifested in the rear surround channels even though this is just a 2ch stereo recording. DPL looks for the out of phase content in analog music and sends it to the surrounds (with a ~20ms delay added).
I was thinking there was something wrong with those positions. First I tried this test with my JBL Studio 530's, then confirmed the same effect with my new iLoud Micro Monitors. Also, all the positional tests are way too short. This video is a great way to help people start tearing their hair out.
Thanks. Well, it may happen to provide signals for the surround speakers with its "off stage" L/R sounds, but officially it is just for 2ch stereo so I'm not sure you should trust it for setting the signal levels properly for the surround L and R.
Yes, sort of. It may be diffuse but it should seem to be somewhere beyond the L or R speaker, even up to your direct lateral sides. Not really behind you though.
Everything was perfect till off stage left, sounded like sound was also coming from the right. I have no acoustic treatments so may be due to heavy reflections. Tried to toe in a bit more, marginal improvement. Maybe left is out of phase. Will see this weekend. L r at 30° off stage for right sounds like it's at 60\70° which I think is impressive so the left being wierd is even more noticeable.
Ok, I chose not to bother with stands for my bookshelves but I just got a pair and I have to say, proper positioning does make quite a difference indeed. Though now I am experiencing some OCD about placing them in a perfect triangle lol.
Thanks. I intentionally made this video short and concise, only 22 seconds, so if you loop the video you'll be back to where you need to be, simply by waiting ~21 seconds. No keystrokes needed so you can stay planted in your comfy listening chair (sweet spot) with your head fixed. [To endlessly loop: right click the video image and select "Loop".]
@@m.zillch3841 I know, you did good. But I just need certain sound repeatedly and I can zoom out of webpage and see my comment and video same time so I can click at my time repeatedly to test specific sound location repeatedly as I tune the balance.
@@m.zillch3841 That's odd I thought I already replied. You did fine, I just needed a timestamp to click repeatedly to play specific position as I adjust my balance. On pc, if I zoom out of webpage I can see vid and my comment same time for me hold mouse and click a timestamp repeatedly.
I wouldn't worry about that off stage content too much because, to the best of my knowledge, it only happens naturally from recordings made using a very specific two microphone array technique that is not used commonly in modern day recordings, including some classical and some very, very rare jazz. At least that is my understanding. Most modern day stuff places one mic at each instrument and then the engineers mix it together using electronics. That off stage stuff doesn't exist for those sorts of recordings unless they intentionally synthesize such content to be showy.
what ze hell, offset sounds right, but the centers (all of them) are biased right, no matter how much more left I place the left speaker had to just move my monitor slighty instead
The directly out of the speaker position sounds more of stage than the off stage position on my setup. The Off stage sounds more like in between but i little out of phase. Why might that be?
When one's speakers are wired properly in relative phase/polarity the "off-stage" content sounds like the phase is greatly altered and very elusive to hear as solidly and precisely focused as the other five positions. [These results may flip if one's speakers are not properly wired in phase.] I'm not dead sure but I think this was made with a special design of stereo mic and importantly it does not reflect the way the vast majority of recordings are made today using multiple sets of mono mics, then mixed together at varying levels on the two channels, using a mixing console.
I don't know what gear you have but they used to have a control to fix this common occurrence called "balance". Oddly many devices today omit it. A slightly skewed center image can occur due to MANY reasons: A. The source recording. B. The source device. C. An analog volume control knob with poor "channel tracking", so the imbalance (may) vary per volume level setting. D. The room dimensions and surfaces. E The asymmetrical room decor include rugs, drapes, and plush furniture which absorb sound and hard surfaces like wood, steel, and glass which reflect sound. F. The speakers (or headphones). G. The positioning/fit/seal of the headphones including their clamp pressure. H. The listener's hearing.
Use an eq and make sure that your speakers sound as identical throughout the range as you can make them. I've learned in my experience that imaging doesn't just rely on position but that it is also frequency dependent. The analogy would be like light not focusing on the same plane on the retina. The same can happen for sound and making sure that your frequency bands sound identical is one step to proper imaging.
if you have an eq, use the test tone frequencies on RUclips to make your speakers as identical sounding as possible. I suggest pulling up a video that matches every one of the slides on your eq. You want the sound level to match as closely as possible. It's tricky for the higher frequencies because there will be many more modes and nulls in the room. You may not hear some of them until you turn your head. You can only match to a certain level because the room itself will treat sound differently through the room, but this will get you in the ball park. Then tweak it with favorite recordings. Before you begin this, pick one speaker only and adjust the general sound to your liking with a favorite recording then proceed with the above. For example, set it to your left speaker. You will then only adjust the eq slides for your right speaker. Hope it helps. The more identical you can make the speakers through the spectrum, the better the imaging will be.
All positions seem spot-on except for "off-stage left" and "off-stage right, both of which sound like they are coming more from the center, ie. the OSL is coming in to the right of the left speaker and OSR is coming in to the left of the right speaker. Anyone know how to fix this?
Changing the front L and R spacing may help but the off stage images can be elusive even for the best speakers in the best rooms. Also, I have found instances where I hear it clear as a bell but then move my head just a half inch and it's gone!
I find when I turn my head 90 degrees towards the direction the "off-stage" location is being named, it actually sounds like it's coming from behind the speaker. When I'm facing forward, it sounds almost identical to the "left or right" voice.
the phasing of two high quality, matched speakers has to be spot on perfect, in an acoustically treated room for off stage sounds to feel completely correct. In a bedroom or living room environment just get as close as you can, you're chasing a unicorn, especially with large floor-standing setups.
The off stage stuff is elusive and I sometimes get it for one speaker but not the other. It depends on several factors including how precisely the L and R speakers match regarding in-room frequency response and the exact symmetry of the listening room itself including its decor placement and how that alters the sound reflections. I also find that my exact head position and rotation play a role. Sometimes I hear it but then rotate my head just a little and it's gone! Also I don't mean how precisely your head faces forwards, in fact I sometimes find the best way to hear the off stage L material is to face the R speaker, and vice versa. Keep in mind this off stage material isn't super important because only a small percentage of recordings even use the proper mic placement technique which will induce it in the recording in the first place. Mostly acoustic jazz with minimal mic'ing and some classical, but rarely rock/electronic.
As the opening title mentions, this is a condensed test where I have edited out the transition time between the locations making it better suited for speaker placement/aiming experimentation. The original CD is called Chesky Records JD37 "Chesky Records Jazz Sampler & Audiophile Test Compact Disc: Volume 1".
"Exact center position" is actually slightly panned to the right, for anyone going crazy over this. Compare a mono audio track to this and you'll see what I mean.
I was able to confirm that my Salnotes Zero IEMs developed a channel imbalance. I had to set the left channel to double that of the right in order to correct it
The offstage left sounds like its coming from the right even when i have the speaker turned inward towards me. Other than that, every other sound is in its right place. Don't know if its this video...
As I understand it, the much longer original Chesky CD track this video is condensed from is not an electrically manipulated recording done by the adjustments of pan pots on a mixing console from a singular mic, using an invariable test tone generator as the sound source, but rather a mortal human being, flawed in their ability to perfectly modulate their voice as they walk around in a room and face different exact directions while reading from a script, speaking into either a stereo mic or a pair of mono mics, likely uncalibrated. It is not uncommon for such situations, perhaps even the room acoustics too, to be slightly imbalanced L to R.
The "off stage" parts are a mix of the named channel but also a fainter out of phase version in the opposing channel simultaneously, so it is not surprising that there is some content coming out of the alternate channel. At least that's my understanding.
Now I am in your head and have taken control of your central nervous system. lets party, 🥳 I don't care if it's only Tuesday and you don't usually drink, where do you keep your keys.
@@albertloan396 move the speaker that doesnt sound "off stage" away from the wall/ closer to the other speaker then center the image moving it back and forth. Try toe in after you center everything.
@@ewartsmith7490 Ya, thats the soundstage. With headphones is easy. You dont need to adjust nothing. This kind of videos are more for speakers. Stereo systems.
headphones don't properly portray a stereo image/soundstage. Even high end reference grade planar driver phones don't seem to paint a soundstage anything like a mid-range set of hi-fi speakers or low end studio monitors.
@@m.zillch3841 Glad I did not need to do that, normally iem cables will have clear L/R markings but obviously mine didn't, I went into this the unbothered because the inverted stereo did not really bother me, but interchanging the cables w.r.t. the shells worked.
As I understand it, the original Chesky records recording (which I condensed down to just the key sections to make this quick video) is not produced electrically with pan pots: It used a stereophonic mic array with a guy moving around a stage recording his voice, so there is some expected channel bleed and imprecision.
That’s bullshit. I use left and right only through tube stereo pre amp into tube stereo power amp into Altec Lansing 1974 speakers 10hz-20khz 107 db 1 watt at 1 meter. Close my eyes I hear great imaging of a sound stage orchestra. If I put on Metallica, it’s like being right on stage with them. But speakers are 150 lbs each.
I usually just right click the video and select "Loop" to put it in an infinite repeat so you simply wait 21 seconds and your target postion replays, but thanks!
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And now I am outside at the bar getting a drink.
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5 years and you're *_STILL_* at that crappy bar??
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This 22 second vid is exactly what I needed, thanks!. Anyone with a new mb with seperate channels audio jack set up but you have a powered audio system that gets audio signal input from just one small head phone jack, just plug into your center channel on the mb and everything will work fine. {have old Altec Lansing pc audio system with a right and left stereo speaker and sub-woofer}
"Now, im under your bed"
Me: yeah, sounds good...OH WTF!!?
Used this video to confirm that my second pair of Hifiman Sundara's does indeed have a channel imbalance. Gonna keep my first pair. Thanks a ton for the video
With headphones another trick is listen to mono and wear them backwards: L ear in R cup and R ear in L cup. If the imbalance migrates to the other side you indeed have an imbalanced pair. If it stays on the same side its your hearing.
@@m.zillch3841 Yep tried that too and same results, it was the headphones.
@@m.zillch3841 Yes!!! Mono to ensure the source is balanced, switching to address hearing.
Exact placement of the headphones unfortunately comes into play too. With circumaural (around the ear) designs tightness of the seal, the distance of the driver from the eardrum, and the headphones' position up/down and forward/backward changes the intensity as you reposition it a few millimeters. I sometimes notice with music a slight shift in the center sound stage to one side can be corrected by moving my other earcup slightly forward. This may be acoustic (meaning the intensity from the right is then increased) or it could be psychoacoustic meaning your PERCEPTION of the sound from the exact side direction is not as good as when the sound moves slightly inward to your forward hemisphere. Note how the pinna (the outer ear) is not a symmetrical cone shape and is instead designed to bias the acoustical amplification of FRONTAL sounds.
The offstage come in very clearly in both ears, and there's even bleed at basic L & R.
There is bleed because this was made with a real stereo mic array rather than just by moving pan pots on a recording console.
my go to video for testing my speakers after change of amps, dacs etc
This is the only test I can find that gives a centre position and not just left and right . My exact centre was actually off to the right by a good margin . I was able to move the speakers until the centre sound was accurate . Many thanks !!
Glad to be of help.
Thank you for uploading, nice to see my system appears to be just fine.
For me the center comes slightly from the right. If i put it to mono it is fine though. Can anyone verify this?
I think so too because every time I listen to music adjusting this as the center everything is off to the left, when I adjust for everything else this is to the right
Yes I spent a bunch of time analyzing this and checked in Audition as well - the center demo is ever so slightly leaning to the right
omg. I thought I had channel imbalance on my new audio devices. Thanks a lot for confirming.
The locations were from a guy walking around either a stereo mic or a pair of mono mics so there are both slight mic imbalances, room echo, and also channel bleed (Notice how if you disconnect one speaker you still faintly hear, say, the Left channel when the Right speaker is the only one still connected.) Most content we experience is made differently with a mono mic in front of the announcer and then the placement is more precisely set using pan pots on a mixing console, electrically not acoustically.
Great video. Every time I calibrate the channels seperately with REW, I come here to check if the soundstage is still fine.
Good to hear. Also keep in mind that although a meter/app/program may show the levels are balanced, hence there should be good imaging, that doesn't take into consideration that our hearing isn't always perfectly balanced, even if we are "normal". Similarly if you ask people who wear eyeglasses if their prescription for their L and R eye are identical they often aren't. Also the pickup pattern of your Omni mic (or whatever mic it is) is fairly "omindirectional", our ears aren't: they favor certain directions and certain frequencies while discounting others. The final arbiter is your own perception.
Nice video. my studio monitors have the independent volume so this is perfect for getting the center imaging with the speakers. only gripe I would have would be that it'd be nice if the left, center and right were longer on the video so I wouldn't have to keep rewinding the video each time but that's minor.
If you start playback and then right click the image (at least I know with most browsers using Windows) there's an option for "Looping" the video indefinitely. Works great.
yup i had my earbuds plugged in backwards but they dont have indicators of which is L and R
0:10 hear the subtle pop on the right ear when he says midway?
Sublte? This audio is full of pops and cracks, but its ok since that is not the point of this
The offstage right and left sound almost like they are out of faze
I think using the specific type of mic they used to make this in a sense, "yes", the L and R are out of phase. I know when you play this test in Dolby Pro Logic 2 that content is manifested in the rear surround channels even though this is just a 2ch stereo recording. DPL looks for the out of phase content in analog music and sends it to the surrounds (with a ~20ms delay added).
I was thinking there was something wrong with those positions. First I tried this test with my JBL Studio 530's, then confirmed the same effect with my new iLoud Micro Monitors.
Also, all the positional tests are way too short. This video is a great way to help people start tearing their hair out.
@@gramblor1 lol
Nice video to help level the LCR Speaker just right (also the surrounds) 👍
Thanks. Well, it may happen to provide signals for the surround speakers with its "off stage" L/R sounds, but officially it is just for 2ch stereo so I'm not sure you should trust it for setting the signal levels properly for the surround L and R.
offstage sounds like it's behind me and halfway between rear and left/right. Is that where is supposed to come from?
Yes, sort of. It may be diffuse but it should seem to be somewhere beyond the L or R speaker, even up to your direct lateral sides. Not really behind you though.
After using my IEM for half an hour, I just realized I plugin the wrong side. Thanks
This told me what I needed to know.
Offstage left sounds fanloid xydrick more with the opposite, than offstage right, i can hear the echo
Everything was perfect till off stage left, sounded like sound was also coming from the right. I have no acoustic treatments so may be due to heavy reflections. Tried to toe in a bit more, marginal improvement. Maybe left is out of phase. Will see this weekend. L r at 30° off stage for right sounds like it's at 60\70° which I think is impressive so the left being wierd is even more noticeable.
Just testing my hi-fi system and this video is cool
Ok, I chose not to bother with stands for my bookshelves but I just got a pair and I have to say, proper positioning does make quite a difference indeed. Though now I am experiencing some OCD about placing them in a perfect triangle lol.
Thnx for uploading this very useful...
Click @ time to repeat
off stage left @0:03
left @0:05
left-center @0:09
center @0:13
right-center @0:15
right @0:18
off stage right @0:20
Thanks. I intentionally made this video short and concise, only 22 seconds, so if you loop the video you'll be back to where you need to be, simply by waiting ~21 seconds. No keystrokes needed so you can stay planted in your comfy listening chair (sweet spot) with your head fixed. [To endlessly loop: right click the video image and select "Loop".]
@@m.zillch3841 I know, you did good. But I just need certain sound repeatedly and I can zoom out of webpage and see my comment and video same time so I can click at my time repeatedly to test specific sound location repeatedly as I tune the balance.
@@m.zillch3841 That's odd I thought I already replied. You did fine, I just needed a timestamp to click repeatedly to play specific position as I adjust my balance. On pc, if I zoom out of webpage I can see vid and my comment same time for me hold mouse and click a timestamp repeatedly.
I have only heard the offstage right once while I was standing at one particular position of my room, then I can never hear it again.
I wouldn't worry about that off stage content too much because, to the best of my knowledge, it only happens naturally from recordings made using a very specific two microphone array technique that is not used commonly in modern day recordings, including some classical and some very, very rare jazz. At least that is my understanding. Most modern day stuff places one mic at each instrument and then the engineers mix it together using electronics. That off stage stuff doesn't exist for those sorts of recordings unless they intentionally synthesize such content to be showy.
@@m.zillch3841 I think it is HASS effect,
offstage left sounds like its behind me
Hello, Could anyone here help me? Center sound is almost completly muffled, but i'm using either headphones or a single speaker.
what ze hell, offset sounds right, but the centers (all of them) are biased right, no matter how much more left I place the left speaker
had to just move my monitor slighty instead
yep panning works, thank you kind sr.
The directly out of the speaker position sounds more of stage than the off stage position on my setup. The Off stage sounds more like in between but i little out of phase. Why might that be?
When one's speakers are wired properly in relative phase/polarity the "off-stage" content sounds like the phase is greatly altered and very elusive to hear as solidly and precisely focused as the other five positions. [These results may flip if one's speakers are not properly wired in phase.] I'm not dead sure but I think this was made with a special design of stereo mic and importantly it does not reflect the way the vast majority of recordings are made today using multiple sets of mono mics, then mixed together at varying levels on the two channels, using a mixing console.
My center is to the right. Yet there is equal distance to the wall to the side and back of each speaker. How do I ensure center image?
I don't know what gear you have but they used to have a control to fix this common occurrence called "balance". Oddly many devices today omit it.
A slightly skewed center image can occur due to MANY reasons:
A. The source recording.
B. The source device.
C. An analog volume control knob with poor "channel tracking", so the imbalance (may) vary per volume level setting.
D. The room dimensions and surfaces.
E The asymmetrical room decor include rugs, drapes, and plush furniture which absorb sound and hard surfaces like wood, steel, and glass which reflect sound.
F. The speakers (or headphones).
G. The positioning/fit/seal of the headphones including their clamp pressure.
H. The listener's hearing.
Use an eq and make sure that your speakers sound as identical throughout the range as you can make them. I've learned in my experience that imaging doesn't just rely on position but that it is also frequency dependent. The analogy would be like light not focusing on the same plane on the retina. The same can happen for sound and making sure that your frequency bands sound identical is one step to proper imaging.
if you have an eq, use the test tone frequencies on RUclips to make your speakers as identical sounding as possible. I suggest pulling up a video that matches every one of the slides on your eq. You want the sound level to match as closely as possible. It's tricky for the higher frequencies because there will be many more modes and nulls in the room. You may not hear some of them until you turn your head. You can only match to a certain level because the room itself will treat sound differently through the room, but this will get you in the ball park. Then tweak it with favorite recordings. Before you begin this, pick one speaker only and adjust the general sound to your liking with a favorite recording then proceed with the above. For example, set it to your left speaker. You will then only adjust the eq slides for your right speaker. Hope it helps. The more identical you can make the speakers through the spectrum, the better the imaging will be.
All positions seem spot-on except for "off-stage left" and "off-stage right, both of which sound like they are coming more from the center, ie. the OSL is coming in to the right of the left speaker and OSR is coming in to the left of the right speaker. Anyone know how to fix this?
Changing the front L and R spacing may help but the off stage images can be elusive even for the best speakers in the best rooms. Also, I have found instances where I hear it clear as a bell but then move my head just a half inch and it's gone!
I find when I turn my head 90 degrees towards the direction the "off-stage" location is being named, it actually sounds like it's coming from behind the speaker. When I'm facing forward, it sounds almost identical to the "left or right" voice.
the phasing of two high quality, matched speakers has to be spot on perfect, in an acoustically treated room for off stage sounds to feel completely correct. In a bedroom or living room environment just get as close as you can, you're chasing a unicorn, especially with large floor-standing setups.
My headphones are on backwards.
oh my god they feel so much better when they are on the correct way
Is it normal that the offstage sound sounds like it is coming from behind me?
The off stage stuff is elusive and I sometimes get it for one speaker but not the other. It depends on several factors including how precisely the L and R speakers match regarding in-room frequency response and the exact symmetry of the listening room itself including its decor placement and how that alters the sound reflections. I also find that my exact head position and rotation play a role. Sometimes I hear it but then rotate my head just a little and it's gone! Also I don't mean how precisely your head faces forwards, in fact I sometimes find the best way to hear the off stage L material is to face the R speaker, and vice versa. Keep in mind this off stage material isn't super important because only a small percentage of recordings even use the proper mic placement technique which will induce it in the recording in the first place. Mostly acoustic jazz with minimal mic'ing and some classical, but rarely rock/electronic.
Offstage for me comes from center, what can this be?
My speakers were out of fase🤭 switched wires, soo much better!
why is my stereo channel reversed? Left is coming from my right speaker
Is the wire meant to go to the L speaker errantly going to the R and vice versa? Or some other analog wire flip in the chain before it?
how does he move so quickly?
As the opening title mentions, this is a condensed test where I have edited out the transition time between the locations making it better suited for speaker placement/aiming experimentation. The original CD is called Chesky Records JD37 "Chesky Records Jazz Sampler & Audiophile Test Compact Disc: Volume 1".
recently fucked up my headphones, so this was a big help in checking to see if they were working right again. They are btw.
"Exact center position" is actually slightly panned to the right, for anyone going crazy over this. Compare a mono audio track to this and you'll see what I mean.
Out of curiosity, what device or program did you use to convert the passage "exact center position" into mono to apply said test?
@@m.zillch3841 foobar2000. Went into Options -> DSP and chose Downmix to mono.
Nope, dead center might want to check your gear
I was able to confirm that my Salnotes Zero IEMs developed a channel imbalance. I had to set the left channel to double that of the right in order to correct it
I felt the offstage sounded perfected. Coming out of my Sterling m80x speakers, it sounded as it would if someone was truly offstage.
The offstage left sounds like its coming from the right even when i have the speaker turned inward towards me. Other than that, every other sound is in its right place. Don't know if its this video...
probably is, same in my headphones
Center is +1db to the right vs left. Check it.
As I understand it, the much longer original Chesky CD track this video is condensed from is not an electrically manipulated recording done by the adjustments of pan pots on a mixing console from a singular mic, using an invariable test tone generator as the sound source, but rather a mortal human being, flawed in their ability to perfectly modulate their voice as they walk around in a room and face different exact directions while reading from a script, speaking into either a stereo mic or a pair of mono mics, likely uncalibrated. It is not uncommon for such situations, perhaps even the room acoustics too, to be slightly imbalanced L to R.
@@m.zillch3841 Fair enough. where can I find the full track?
i think my in ear monitors are fucked since my offstage right is coming out of my left channel
The "off stage" parts are a mix of the named channel but also a fainter out of phase version in the opposing channel simultaneously, so it is not surprising that there is some content coming out of the alternate channel. At least that's my understanding.
damn my 16" Macbook is dealing perfect in this test. My bigger speakers on the other hand... needs work with their positioning :D
works perfectly with HD660S2.
Well my speakers are backwards
😲👍 My system is right
now i am taking a nap upstairs
offstage left sounds like its behind ,me
Now I am in your head and have taken control of your central nervous system. lets party, 🥳 I don't care if it's only Tuesday and you don't usually drink, where do you keep your keys.
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👍👍
it seems my right ear is ticklish
yup my iems r broken
everything was perfect except for offstage right, which sounds the same as right. I got work to do! Thanks
How did you fix this. I have the same problem.
Albert Loan not sure - now there’s the rabbit hole of “how accurate is this test recording” lol
@@albertloan396 move the speaker that doesnt sound "off stage" away from the wall/ closer to the other speaker then center the image moving it back and forth. Try toe in after you center everything.
@@danieljohansson3082 Appreciate the advice. Thanks.
bro i';ve been using this shit for years xD
Sweeet!
Now I want to know how my AirPods pull off this trickery
Betting it's just positional volume adjustments
@@ewartsmith7490 Ya, thats the soundstage. With headphones is easy. You dont need to adjust nothing. This kind of videos are more for speakers. Stereo systems.
0:13 👈. | Center sound bottom |
0:03 off stage left
0:16 Right side
0:20 offstage right
my left airpod is trashh noo
useful. thanks
My headphones make things sound like they're behind me. It never passes in front of me.
headphones don't properly portray a stereo image/soundstage. Even high end reference grade planar driver phones don't seem to paint a soundstage anything like a mid-range set of hi-fi speakers or low end studio monitors.
@@thefloop2813 Oh yeah, you're completely right on the imaging part, but even my IEMs has surprisingly large soundstage.
Wtf why my right earphone sounds like my center...
Bad day to find out my speaker's left and right is suddenly inverted.
Mine is PEFECT!!!😁
0:13
And hence I discovered I had something wrong with my hearing
Good but waaaay too short if you have to setup your system at the same time while listening to this.
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@@m.zillch3841 Oh ! My bad ! 👌
@@ArsenicShooter No problem.
@@m.zillch3841 I've put a thumb up anyway 😂
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Sounds like Brent Spiner.
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my iems were fucking inverted
Bummer. What brand are they? Any shot you could open up the plug and resolder the L/R swapped wires?
@@m.zillch3841 Glad I did not need to do that, normally iem cables will have clear L/R markings but obviously mine didn't, I went into this the unbothered because the inverted stereo did not really bother me, but interchanging the cables w.r.t. the shells worked.
And now I'm very far off stage with your mom at her house.
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offstage left sounded really good but offstage right did not, probably my window.
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this was useful but far too short, give the listener some time to adjust and listen again
Read the first line of the notes: "Start play, RIGHT click the image, and select LOOP for continuous playback. "
now i am in south africa-
1 db channel imbalance 😐
As I understand it, the original Chesky records recording (which I condensed down to just the key sections to make this quick video) is not produced electrically with pan pots: It used a stereophonic mic array with a guy moving around a stage recording his voice, so there is some expected channel bleed and imprecision.
Yea I got hearing loss lol
oops
That’s bullshit. I use left and right only through tube stereo pre amp into tube stereo power amp into Altec Lansing 1974 speakers 10hz-20khz 107 db 1 watt at 1 meter. Close my eyes I hear great imaging of a sound stage orchestra. If I put on Metallica, it’s like being right on stage with them. But speakers are 150 lbs each.
Click @ time to repeat
off stage left @0:03
left @0:05
left-center @0:09
center @0:13
right-center @0:15
right @0:18
off stage right @0:20
I usually just right click the video and select "Loop" to put it in an infinite repeat so you simply wait 21 seconds and your target postion replays, but thanks!
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