DIY Replacing upper control arms - 2007 Sonata 06'-10' front squeaking | Product link in description
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My 07 Sonata was making this incredibly loud and annoying sound from the front suspension, took it to the dealership who told me it was the struts that needed to be replaced, i did some research and found out they have no idea what they are talking about and it is the upper control arm bushings, I searched around and found the cheapest parts i could, i got these from detroit axle on amazon for 60$ for the pair. main tools we used were the jacks, jack stands, 14mm wrench, 17mm socket, breaker bar, pliers, and we tried using the ball joint separator tool but it didnt help much. Install was pretty easy but this was figuring things out as we went. This is my first time working on a part like this, Im not a mechanic, and I was going off of a post that was in Sonata Forums that showed this exact way. I made this video because I wish I had a video to go off of when me and my cousin did this. hope this helps , took care of the squeaking 100%
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The control arm bolts should not be tightened without it being in it's resting position. In other words, put the jack under the lower control arm and support the car on it as if the wheel were on the car. This puts the bushings in the middle of their range so they can move up or down without tearing. Very important!
This is a helpful comment, thank you. Hindsight is 20/20. I really was broke and had no idea what to do because there was no videos like this on this part, so yeah I recorder my efforts, but my cars been fine since this recording so I am happy.
This is very crucial and often overlooked. Glad you pointed it out.
How much pressure should be applied on the jack - is it like so much that the upper control arm gets pushed into almost horizontal position? Thanks in advance.
Thanks for posting this! I fixed and replaced it with new upper control for my sonata 2006. It worked well.
Happy to hear it worked for you!
Hitting the spindle with the hammer helps loosen the ball joint and spindle. Thanks for the vid, I needed a refresh. Going to battle this again this weekend, time with quality arms.
Great tip. Loading the upper control arm worked on my Azera. Was not able to get it loose prior.
Thanks guys. Now I know where at least one of the noises is coming from. If that's not it now, it probably will be soon. For now it will be a can of spray lube on various rubber parts ( like the rubber on those arms) and maybe get out the grease gun while I'm in the vicinity. Thanks again, you guys rock!
Man your video was very helpful!!! So easy to do!!!
I bought a control arm for $30 from Rock. I used a jack stand to support the car instead of a second jack and the ball joint popped right out when we jacked up the lower arm gently and tapped the stud. Using the jack to raise and lower the lower CA to move the strut spring gave enough clearance for the two main bolts I used a small 14MM box and the adjustable wrench to break the bolts free. What really helped was a flexible extension. Working from the front side of the strut with a 6" 3/8 extension and the flexible knuckle to thread the rearward bolt since there is zero clearance. The extension went behind the strut. Drives like a dream! Another helpful tool was a slim, ratcheting box wrench. It allowed us to tighten the front bolt quickly.
very useful! thanks! i have 2006 with this exact problem
digdeep0169 glad this helps!
thanks for the video. i'll probably be doing this soon on my moms car... someone else already pointed out about the upper being at it's resting position with load on the suspension. i'd suggest correcting that to prevent premature failure. you can remove the wheel, put a jack under the spindle, and loosen those bolts and tighten them back fairly easily. also something else to mention. it's a good idea to lubricate those rubber bushings with silicone lube to prevent them from squeaking prematurely as well. DON'T use WD40 or petroleum based lubes.. it will cause them to swell and break down. get a can of silicone spray when/if you decide to loosen and retighting those upper control arm bolts. perfect time to do it.
Very helpful video 👌 thanks man 👊👍👍
When getting upper bolts in and out, it was easier to undo the upper sway bar nut, use a pry bar to lower the strut assembly and get the spring coil out of the way. Much easier than jacking up the entire lower arm to get clearance.
Yep- After a struggle, I was able to remove the top pivot bolts, but there was NO WAY of getting it back together without dropping the strut
Thank you I replaced the struts and noise continues you have the solution here
February 2019... My install notes related to this video... My two cents anyway!!
~ Beg, steal, or borrow a ratcheting 14mm box-end wrench for the control arm bolts... much easier.
~ The ball joint tool shown in the video will work fine, but they had it upside down... flat side against the knuckle and pound it in tight. Reverse the nut on the ball joint for more surface area and, as noted, a few whacks with a decent sized sledge hammer will pop it free.
~ To make it easier to get to the control arm bolts... I loosened the three nuts on the top of the strut. This, in combination with removing the bottom bolt, allow me to pivot the strut assembly front or rear to get to the opposite bolt on the control arm. Don't be afraid to tilt the knuckle along with this... even with my big hands, I had plenty of space to get them out and back in pretty easily.
~ When I tightened the control arm bolts, I simply positioned the arm where I measured it to be sitting when the vehicle was sitting on the ground.
First of all, thank you SO MUCH to ESM Media Lifestyle, for making this video! It gave me the confidence needed to do the exact same job on my wife's '06 Sonata. My before and after "squeak video" would be pretty much identical. Before it was embarrassingly noisy, after this job, doesn't squeak one bit. I ordered the same control arms from Detroit Axle for $59 for the pair.
Next, thank you Alan for the tip about the three nuts on the top of the strut!! This saved my butt. The driver side control arm was super easy to remove and replace but holy cow, when I got to the passenger side, the strut spring (that huge spring that goes around the shock absorber....) was BLOCKING the forward control arm bolt. I barely got it out by pushing with all my might using pinch off pliers. But getting it back in with the new control arm, wasn't gonna happen. I tried compressing the spring with a clamp, jacking the spring up, etc. but I couldn't get it out of the way enough. Finally I loosened the three upper bolts holding the shock in place as Alan suggested (pop the hood and you will see them) and also removed the lower control arm bolt. This allowed the strut to pivot outward and "down" enough due to the loosening of the upper bolts, to get the srping out of the way so that forward bolt would finally clear. What a relief! Tightened everything up and wow, drives like a new car. Thanks again!! :-)
thank you so much , please post more videos about the same car , just bought one . thanks
I Will definitely do that. Thanks for watching!
If you went to a mechanic or pedder suspension they would charge you about $1000 for this job because the idiots will take out your suspension to do it. So this guy has the right idea. This is how i do it but instead of jacking the control arm up with wood (that's wrong way) just jack the wheel up to compress the suspension then knock out the ball joint bolt that way it wont violently pop out. (I should mention also if you plan ahead it works well to spray the ball joint and controll arms bolts with penetrating oil over 4 days while driving the car, after that the bolts will be easy to remove)
Nice work gentlemen.
Thanks!
My 06 was making same noise just had upper control arm an Ball joints replace today no more noise so happy
How much did you pay
Thank you so much 😊
good job!
Thanks for the upload this will be the third time replacing the upper right control arms in my 09 hyundai sonata. I just don't know why this car is doing this but replacing a third time is crazy. I'm switching to a a different brand cause the beck arnley are not working for me anymore. But thanks for the upload.
see my comment about tightening the two bolts, you're doing it wrong that's why it doesn't survive long.
Damn dude three times!? Hows it working out for you did you find something that worked out for you?
I have a 2006 Hyundai Azera and I put Moog upper control arm/ball joint in and It has only lasted me 9 months or so. I have to replace it again. Not sure why these don't last very long. Fortunately this part is still under warranty but I am hesitant replacing it with the same brand in fear that it will break again sometime next year..
Men I got same noise after new spring and shock , I believe is the ball joints , thanks
Hopefully you are able to get me feedback even though this was posted a while ago. I haven't experienced nearly as much squeaking but I do have a loud knock when i turn the wheel. Eventually my lower ball joint busted and snapped my axel. I got it fixed but the knocking continues when I turn the wheel and I was told to replace the upper control arm again and it would solve the knock when I turn. Did you ever experience this issue or was it just squeaking?
Ty. I get to do this repair on my 08 Hyundai Sonata
Nice! ive been dealing with the same problem. about time I fix mine! thanks for the video
Alvaro Vargas glad this video helps!
I had mine replaced about a month ago and it stopped for a while but now the sound is back. Any idea on why it came back?
Hey I got same sound noise I replaced the shocks and the control arm but still same sound never gone can you tell me what is please
Thanks for the video. But in my experience I found it way easier to just take the strut out and then replace the upper control arm, I however tried your way first but the space was way too tight.
You would need to dislocate the bottom bolt on the shock strut to get space for the control arm bolts to come out. Ensure you have a cheap scissor jack to keep the knuckle from pulled outwards which can damage the CV axle.
No you would not
Does replacing this make the ride smoother too?
do you need an alignment after replacing
I am having the same issue with my 2010 Hyundai Sonata (not as bad) none of the mechanics I have took it too knew what it was. my question its not unsafe to drive with the squeak just noisy correct?
Thanks for the great video. My Sonata sounds as bad as yours did...
Thanks man. It was definitely really lound and very annoying when driving by in a public place with alot of speed bumps 😂
Thanks for posting this. I'm about to do this on an 06. Has the car been good since? Do I need the Loctite?
Thanks man!..Car has been great since the instalI, IMO it rides much better plus the squeaking is gone..I don't think the loctite is necessary.. it just helps the bolts stay tight during road vibration I believe. hope this helps man
Where do i spray wd 40
great video, yup does squeak. ..
How much would this job cost if done by mechanic
hey man thanks for the vid. btw are these control arms still good. I ask because they're cheaper than what orielly or AutoZone has em for. I'm if to go with these or more expensive ones you get me??
these control arms worked great man I have had no problems. I only paid 60$ with tax and shipping. link is in the description to the product I used.
I found the OEM ones online for cheaper than eurozone btw did you driver side have a adjustable ball joint on the control arm?
Antony Lopez both the passenger and driver side control arms came with a new ball joint. I dont recall that they were adjustable. But this was a year ago so my memory could be off
you should have jacked the suspension to its normal resting position before tightening the 2 bolts, less stress on bushings.
yes!! I wish I did this, found out after we finished that that is the right thing to do lol
@Michael Powell I think they meant to have marked the control arm at the location it was before disassembly, then after putting it back together put it back at that same location marked ? So I'm thinking when it was on the ground mark it, and then tighten it to that same location before you drop it...
i always tell DIYers remove with Battery Impact Wrench & tight with Torque Wrench\Digital Torque Monitor & dont repeat clicking\buzz sound. torquing is critical! 2146
Great video. Dreading those 2 bolts that install sideways. Rusty...
Awesome!!!
Joseph H thank you!
Joseph H thanks!
I have the same noise, my question is what is the urgency of getting this fixed? Is it something I can not worry too much about or something that needs immediate fix? Sorry if it's a dumb question.
Not a dumb question. Its not to urgent just very loud and annoying. I drove around with this sound for over a year. When I replaced it it was just a bearing that was making this sound. Nothing thats going to ruin your car. Just get it replaced when you get the funds. Hope this helps.
I cant get the center bolt to separate
Did you end up fixing it?
This is working out just like Hyundai planned it by providing no way to grease this area. In fact I have found nothing on the suspension that can be greased so plan on replacing it all as I must do.
Thank you!!! My car is doing the same and my mechanic coudnt figure out the problem
DigitalSoldier 2XP get a new mechanic 😂😂😂
If your mechanic cant figure out the problem by doing simple diagnosis by shaking the tires you are in serious need of a new mechanic... This is why I dont take my vehicles to a mechanic...
How can u tell which one is squeaking and needs to be replaced?
Usually if one is squeaking they both should be replaced
How have those control arms held up?
I have had no problems with them, they have been great since the install!
Hi
I got the same problem and I installed the control arm but the sound came back in less than 24 hours? !!
help me
The sound is from the bushings being bad when there is movement, did you replace those? Also can you get to the source of the noise? I got under my car and pushed on the moving parts to see exactly where the noise was coming from
Same story here. Not sure why it still squeaks...
Can this issue also cause a screaming noise when turning?
I'd guess no.
The screaming or screeching noise like metal rubbing against metal (if I'm thinking of the right noise you're describing), is more likely an indicator of needing brake replacement.
I have exact problem also. I was quoted $360 parts and labor. Is that about right? Please let me know. Thank you!!!
Seems about right for labor . But I chose to save $ and do it on my own with my cousin.
Not bad. I just got both sides done. $470 parts 7 labor. I can do brakes but didn't feel confident enough to tear into the suspension/linkage. Plus it's my daughter's car so I feel better having it done professionally.
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Wow!
I was just quoted $1,003.18 for both sides... not gonna pay THAT price!!!
Thus, tuning-in to the video. I plan to do this soon!
Thanks for the video!
Good video, I was wondering if i was suppose to remove the springs... I Pay $100 for each of them at O'reillys.. Lifetime warranty...
Alpizar#74 we didn't remove the springs to replace the control arms. We compressed them to get to the bolts that's it..but it is an option I suppose if your going to do this. .I would think it would be a good time to change out other parts as well.
Thanks!
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I sprayed wd 40 silicone spray......
LOL Guys come fix my 2007 Hyundai Sonata!!!! I watched the entire VIDEO and that’s exactly what’s wrong with my car
Jesus, it sounded like you ran over a dog...... lmao 0:19
Yep! Lmao i was so happy to fix it
uuuuh - do you guys know what your doin' 🤔🔨
They made this so complicated . easier way.
Make a video on it bro, help out people instead of complaining
You had the pickle fork in the wrong spot. It needs to be on the top
A 5lb sledge hammer would have knocked loose that upper control arm with 3 or 4 wacks. And i found it WAAAYYY less time consuming to take all yhe bolts from the struts to lower them and its easy access to those control arm bolts
Awesome! Thanks for the Info. Hows the car noise now that your finished?
The squeak ing is completely gone. My bushings were so bad once i pulled the control arms off the metal sleeves just fell on the ground. Lol
Lol yeah thats pretty bad. Glad you can drive with no more squeak!
When you lowered the struts, did you have to separate them from the forks? Or did you have enough clearance by just removing the lower bolt? Thanks.
The only thing you need donated to you is a walmart application.
you wad using the Pitchfork the wrong way that's why the ball joint didn't pop
602Laoguy how is it supposed to be used?
that's not the right tool, you nee something like this: www.autozone.com/loan-a-tools/ball-joint-separator/g-g-technics-ball-joint-separator/596905_0_0
and for the tightening the two bolts: jack up the suspension until the body just lifts from the jack stand, then tighten them.
@@Waylander131 So by doing this you are really compressing the spring, right? Would it be better to just put the tire back on remove all jacks and rotate the wheels so you can get in to tighten the two bolts?
Thanks
You needed a bigger hammer bruh...(pause) heheheheh
not supposed to hammer directly on the ball thread stud it will mushroom the stud use the pickle fork and put the nut on backwards to where its almost flush now u can hit it harder. this is still not the correct way but its better way then you're doing it..
Thanks for the comment, definitely not an experienced mechanic and this was a learn as I go type of thing, hindsight is 20/20, if i could do it again I would have done many things different, one is i would have set the tire down before tightening the bolts on the control arm. its been a few months since this install and my Sonata is still riding smooth as ever though. thanks for the heads up hope it can help others.
Erik M, But there will be no room to tighten the bolts after you put the wheels on! I know it's the correct way but just wondering how can we get a torque wrench or even a regular socket there
U screw the nut on then hammer the nut so u dont damage the thread.
Turn the wheel all the way to left or right to get to the bolts after tire is on
Just wanted to update a year later. Buy Upper Control Arms Pair on Amazon here - amzn.to/2qUWH1u . The control arms have been great and I have had no problems! I hope this video is helpful, I am not a mechanic just a guy who wanted to save some $$ so a lot of these comments have been helpful on what to do/ avoid. Thanks guys!
Erik M I’ve done control arms before but not on a sonata. Thanks for posting this seems as easy as on my Honda
I appreciate it man it was pretty simple now looking back on it. Just gotta have the right tools. A friend helps too.
You did not know how to use the ball joint removal tool. Put it between and hit it with a hammer. You made this look hard! But, A job well done anyway.
I thought only fords did this...😂
Should have put anti seize but it’s a Hyundai
Your airbag is screwed up just like mine!
Yes sirrrr
I’m shopping online now so I can finally fix the same issue you had in the video, To fix the horrid squeaking, Does replacing just the rubber bushings do the trick or just replace both the upper control arms? (with the new bushings inside) Thank you for your help!
Spray all around the upper control with lubricant , thank me later
(Still under $60! amzn.to/3siisbZ) 12/18/2021 update: I still drive this car. It has had no issues at all with the install of these upper control arms. There are a lot of unhelpful and negative comments saying we didn't know what were doing and were doing it wrong and all this bs...the reason why I recorded our efforts doing this is EXACTLY THAT REASON, there was ZERO videos and ZERO help online at the time of this recording, I wanted to show what we did to get the results that obviously worked for me. IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT TO LEAVE, leave a HELPFUL comment so other people trying to do this can actually put it to use instead of complaining and being a little snowflake.