Analysis: How BAD is Turning Point: Fall Of Liberty Really?
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WOW this game sucks. Huge thanks to all of you that showed up while I streamed this game. Seriously 70 concurrent viewers is crazy! I love hanging out with you guys and if you want to hang out in the future come give a follow! www.twitch.tv/jarek4gamingdragon
thank you for your sacriface, so we don't have to play it
it's truly an abomination
I have a simple answer on why people watch other people playing bad games. I'd rather watch someone else to play terrible title, especially if that someone else can provide some entertainment on their own, rather than just experience this crap myself, asking myself about my life decisions.
Actually the game is from 2008 not 2009 but still looks like crap
Please play exodus from the earth
Hahahahahahaha!!!
I remember playing this game endlessly when I was like 12-13 and thinking it was the best game ever.
Same
same too
For real lol I think we all loved this game as kids
I did as well. Loves getting all the environmental kills
Also same
>A then obscure diplomat
Yea the the 1st lord of the admiralty was super obscure with being responsible for Gallipoli and all that.
He was relieved from his post following Gallipoli.
“Obscure” is definitely the wrong word to use there. “Controversial” would’ve fit better.
Statue of liberty is bombed in the opening cutscene but is standing at the end when the nuke goes off?
i think the arm was blown off but even with that the statue has its arm at the end sooooo
No there is flag flying over it, swastika can be seen
I have some great memories playing this with my brother when he was still around which is why i don't hate this game lmao.
I miss him
BWEH HUEH thats nice
@@MRVAST-op7sg ^Human Garbage
May he rest in Peace
@@spartan11mcxbox I think he meant the memories of him and his brother playing it not the fact that his brother is gone
That's really cool man. Seriously.
I love how bad Turning Point is, it was a running gag with my friends for years.
But I remember playing this game online at launch, and being the only person in the entire world trying to find a match.
Also, did you find the giant banana easter egg?
I did not but I did just look up videos of it. Makes me wonder how many easter eggs we've missed in legendary or how many people actually want to go search for them haha
American Nazis included?
Urban Chaos: Riot Response, Man that’s a throwback, I remember playing that game. Was probably one of my favorite PS2 games.
Fun fact about Urban Chaos, I was super young and my grandmother (rip) got it for me and told me to only play it when I was at her house. I showed my girl (parents friends daughter) at the time the game she went downstairs and ratted, my mother took and sold the game that day smh 🤧
@@laxmatt96 man that's rough
God, that game is very underrated. It kills me that we'll never see Rocksteady do another FPS now that they're forever doing Batman games.
That game was such a huge underrated experience. I absolutely loved just acquiring medals for upgrades by exploding gang members' heads open with headshots and electrocuting them with my taser until they flopped over unconscious.
... I've gotten so used to my awful laptop playing games on low that I geniuenly don't feel any sort of disgust when I see how this game looks... Man, I'm poor.
Same
Graphics aren't everything. I've got a gaming PC that can run the latest releases on high settings, but it's been gathering dust for six months as I downsized to a smaller place and don't have room for it (also poor). I'm now playing a load of great games on my 360 that I didn't get round to back in the day, and I'm having just as much fun.
As long as games play well I'll still love them. But same tho lol
This game was a guilty pleasure of mine. It did Wolfenstein The New Colossus before it was cool.
Exactly I just fell in love with the concept An the first 10 or so mins of the intro mission running down that building lol
@@djjamesporter4740 Yes, and of course it was shitty but hey it was still a cool concept. Just executed very poorly. I kind of wish someone would remake it and add more stuff to it and polish it and it would be a great game im sure.
@Thibault Derese You stalking me or something?
Beating this game took all of my lifeforce out of me. It was one of the most draining experiences of my life, and I’m surprised my 11 year-old self survived the experience.
how shit was the zeppelin i swear i had at least 5 panic attacks getting through that
FrozenJuiced curtain It literally took me like five hours to get through that zeppelin section alone. By the time I beat the game, I didn’t have a soul anymore.
Funnily enough, I still own the game. I’m looking at my PS3 copy on the shelf right now. I’m keeping it as a trophy - I’m one of the few people that managed to beat it.
@@beefjerky007 yeh beating it was one challenge i will never finish but i respect the fuck out of you for beating it hands down mate
If you wanna play a hard war game on PS3 that's actually good definitely check out medal of Honor airborne I'm still stuck on level 2
@@demonjmh who do the ladies love the most
I think Turning Point: Fall of Liberty had a number of interesting ideas which failed to evolve into cohesive experience. Perhaps the developers were excessively constrained by budget and technical knowledge? Anyway, those gun sounds triggered my Medal of Honor: Frontline PTSD.
The MG42 in that game that killed Panzer 4s
The same developers that made this game, Spark Unlimited, also made "Legendary," which came out around the same time and was actually fairly decent. So, I don't know why there's such a big gap in quality, maybe the publisher had something to do with it by failing to provide enough resources and development time. "Turning Point" was published by Codemasters, and "Legendary" was published by Gamecock Media Group.
@@NexusKin I wouldn’t be surprised. It felt like Codemasters was devoting most of their resources to their racing game Race Driver Grid, which came out at the same time as this game did.
@@brawler5760 That's the bizarre thing when their not-racing games varied in quality from good to VERY bad. Their Operation Flashpoint was good in terms of being a tactical FPS and Damnation, a Gears-wannabe tryhard which was decent enough. Had something to do with individual studios more.
I remember playing a TON of ww2 low budget games when I was a kid...and even then I thought some of them were awful. Pacific Storm and Battle of Europe are two games you should definitely look into!
Oh god I owned those.....
Dispite all of its flaws (of which it has MANY), I love this game. Replay it ocasionaly. Best was I can describe it is like playing a badly drawn comic book.
I have fond memories of this. I loved the bass-boosted Tommy gun lmao
The MP50 with the integrated flashlight was my personal favorite.
Nice video as usual. Btw you should definitely try Shellshock 2 Blood Trails. It's time for some 'nam.
How about Vietcong or Men of Valor. Decent Vietnam War FPS games unlike that one.
Shellshock 2 had a fun premise, but definitely not the talent or budget.
Sucks we never got that Vietnam War Call of Duty Sledgehammer Games wanted to make instead of Advanced Warfare.
Genome Soldat honestly sledgehammer’s writing never struck me as that great. Sure people don’t play call of duty game for the story but geez some of it is super shit. Or maybe I’m alone and it isn’t just for me lol
Oh hell yeah. Shellshock 2. Such a bad game but goddamn I loved it when I was a kid. Easy 1000 gamerscore on 360 too.
@@ericbrown175 nahhh I can agree with that dude, you ain't alone hah
Oh man, that game was so weird and very bad. Not that the first one was anything to write home about.
Ngl I loved playing it when I was younger
Love the Offaly crest.....
It’s me, the “Clive Barker’s Jericho” guy.
I think that game would be perfect for this channel.
that game is a fucking trip
Jericho is a great game, mind you.
It’s as bad as running out of toilet paper on taco Tuesday
Does that include the baby wipes?
I'm going home.
I make my own tacos, never had a toliet problem from my own tacos Why do you Americans keep eating garbage taco bell shitting your self and you guys still go back to taco bell to eat that garbage when you guys damn well know what's going to happen.
Its as bad as your face
@@trotskyvoinovich8307
I would say you are wrong but...you're not.
Factual correction: This was released in Feb 2008, not in 2009.
I got this on sale for $1.00 online. After I had played through Legendary I wanted to see how this game was. I never ran into the strange bugs with characters getting stuck or teleporting. What I do remember was the unique grapple deaths you could inflict on the Nazis. That was the one mechanic the game really got right. Other than that, it was a WWII shooter that was rushed to release on PC and it showed. Regarding the alternate history arc... consider how badly it would have went for the allies if the US did not have access to the British airbases. Germany's ability to manufacture for its war machine was pounded into the stone age by B-17's flying overhead. The United States was able to keep manufacturing new planes, tanks, and munitions with relative impunity. I'm not saying Germany would have conquered the world if they overran the UK, but the war definitely would have went differently. How differently nobody can say, but it's a "good enough" premise to set up the "what if" scenario for the game. I found the game enjoyable despite its obvious flaws, but not particularly memorable.
When I played Wolfenstein: The New Order, I realized I was basically playing what Turning Point could have been. Of course, shooting Nazi scum is always better when BJ Blazkowicz is behind the trigger!
Sounds like this game was stuck in development hell and was likely produced during the PS2 era. That, or this was just that lazily made.
"Legendary" was made by the exact same developers, Spark, and that game was a whole lot better than this one, so you might be right.
Since we seem to enjoy watching you stream bad games, would you be willing to do Beverly Hills Cop for the PS2? That game’s badness has to be seen to be believed.
Oh, and this video was enjoyable, as usual. Keep it up!
Hol' up, there was a game for the Beverly Hills Cop films?
"Worst gun sounds ive ever heard"
Ever play Warhammer 40k Fire Warrior?
Terrible auto aim too.
Its quiet...
What a horrible way to experience Warhammer 40k for the first time, but then my eyes were opened to Dawn of War
Don’t forget the stock sound effects
Just occurred to me, MOH Airborne would be a good one, released around the hayday of MW for COD but stuck with WW2. Less linear than normal WW2 fpss
MOH Airborne is like "Zelda: Ocarina Of Time" compared to this dumpster fire.
In the world of Alt history games, Wolfenstein the New Order this is surely not. Understatement I know.
Yeah, this is basically just a really bad Call Of Duty knockoff.
I actually enjoyed this game it was difficult..
Just a game suggestion - Area 51 Black Site.
Why not Area 51 one as well ;)
Dakkyz I still play that one, lol
Yes plssss
Love these videos. Got nostalgic for Timeshift and went down the rabbit hole of all your videos, I really appreciate all these memorable and obscure FPS games being given the spotlight, for better or worse.
Timeshift is a lot better than this game.
loved how you played Flashpoint in the background legendary has a LEGENDARY soundtrack
I remember reading the IGN magazine that featured this and Far Cry 2 as the big games of the summer. How time flies.
At least Far Cry 2 is actually an amazing experience that still holds up today, unlike this game.
I remember playing this and getting motion sickness because of horrible frame rate and laughing too hard. I actually enjoyed it not because if the fact it was good, but the glitches we're just hilarious.
I think Hour Of Victory is even worse than this
Yeah, that game was probably the most generic, lazy, clunky and poorly programmed WW2 FPS game I've ever played in my life.
Have you reviewed Duke Nukem Forever, the Sniper Ghost Warrior Trilogy or Homefront 2?
Jarek likely won't do SGW since he said he hates stealth games.
Aliens: Colonial Marines, Gearbox's 2013 "masterpiece" that lived up to all the hype and promises...
Oh boy
Played Homefront 2 entered a map where one of the objectives was to kill an enemy enemy became immortal refused to die made game impossible to beat took game back.
@@highcouncil1302 That game was horribly buggy.
You should try a game called Shellshock 2: Blood Trails. Its a Vietnam game, but its also zombie game? It's really weird.
Made by Rebellion too around the same time they did Rogue Warrior.
Funny how most of their games besides the Sniper Elite, AVP, and maybe Judge Dredd Vs. Death turned out hilariously bad.
Shellshock 2 sucked ass, I did not finish the last level as the difficulty spike just went through the roof.
I have never really played the game when I was younger, but I keep seeing it everywhere for some reason. Well, probably because it sucked. But what a strange way to follow up your Vietnam sim.
@One John Fitz All, Shellshock 1 was made by Guerilla Games devs of Killzone. Shellshock 2 made by Rebellion...
I played the demo back in the day and was really blown away by being able to look up and see all the ships flying overhead. Seeing the steelbook in used shops always enticed me to want to pick it up, but one day I was able to get the regular edition for $1 brand new. I played 10 minutes beyond the demo, couldn't pass wherever I was at, and regretted my purchase. I love collecting games and have never sold, traded, or given one away in the 25 years I've been gaming, but this one almost made me reconsider doing so.
Despite all that, I think I'm finally going to try finishing it now.
Back in my younger days, I would go to the clearance section of Target and buy like all the games there for pc cause they were dirt cheap. I bought this one and actually didn't think it was that bad lol.
3:17 that scene was pretty cool, though
9:19 is that robert deniro? I love how you look at it twice.
I couldn’t get past the first mission because it crashes every time the truck moves to let you into the subway
You made a very good point about pirating abandonware. If there is no legal way to buy a new copy of the game physical or digital, then sharing files is the only way to preserve the game for people to play in the future.
I just bought a physical copy off Amazon for my Xbox 360 when I first got it.
You should se how rough the 360 version that i played was, i had to reload certain checkpoints because it wouldn't let me do what i was supposed to do sometimes. The framerate is also really jumpy.
9:18 Gman is dead, that is why we do not have HL3 :(
Hahahaha
Eyyy Freeman. You gonna do that thign right, badda bing badda boom, Ashes...
Oh shit.......
That actually looks like him.
3:21 that was pretty bad ass tho
Dude you should play turok (2008). That would be an interesting one.
Turok paid for and published by Disney. Disney made an M rated FPS. That is hilarious.
He already did that one. I think.
Good god jarek, that settings rant sounded tragic. Thanks for suffering through this one.
Speaking of Urban Chaos i would love to see a video on it
Already did it
This channel is great it’s fun seeing your gameplay and you actually play suggested games. One of the few channels I wait for posts from
I remember seeing the demo for this and being amazed with how the graphics looked since it was one of the first Xbox 360 games if I’m not mistaken
Just found your channel and wow I’m beyond impressed! Love your content man keep it up!
Literally just got done with your, Legendary video.... Good timing... Grabbing the popcorn for this one 😂
At least Legendary was relatively better than this one.
remember this game ,just dont remember if i did finish it ,i remember being super hard back then
In all fairness, Churchill was the driving force for the UK to continue the war against Germany when much of the UK Parliament wanted to sue for peace. If that had happened it's questionable if the US had got involved when it did considering it couldn't use Britain as a launching point and wouldn't have any strong allies to draw it into the war. It would have also allowed Germany to focus more of it's force against Russia or provided them more time to build more devastating weapons.
I legit enjoyed this game when I was younger, I didn’t even know there was a PC version. Maybe I’ll “get a copy” and try it on PC
shows liberty statue break after bomb run,
ends with bomb explode near completely fine statue of liberty
Review shellshock 2 blood trails and rouge warrior pretty please
Dude hell yes, i loved both those.
Did you review Black on the PS2? It’s a great game.
It’s so nice to see your analysis videos, they’re quite interesting.
After watching your videos that popped up on my recommended multiple times, I am subbed and looking forward to future videos
I’m remember playing this in the hospital while I was slowly dying, didn’t play it much because the pain was unbearable.
It's only £1 and only 3 hours - I think I am going to play it just to see what New York invaded looks like
Its a shame it can’t even have that cool of weapons
1:07 fucking Checker Marathon, the time-traveling cabbie!
Strange how mid 60's Marathons are used for police and taxi's in game when a more period-friendly 51' Ford Custom was used in the CGI trailer for the game.
I don't remember buying this game, but I remember it just being there the first time I got a good enough computer to play games with. It's like it materialized from thin air.
Jarek there is a mod called Rusmarines for BF2 which is really good. It is a unpopular mod but for some reason I found it rather good. The only thing I say could make it unpopular is that it isn’t on moddb. The weapons is kinda great (for some reason when aim down sight there a blur surroundings the sight). But the vehicles and engineers class are op by nature. You could only download it through the mod developer RUclips channel link. And how to install is written in Russian. So you might have problems with it. If you want to find it, you just need to search: Rusmarines mod for BF2. And you will find it
I remember seeing the trailers for this back when it was released. It was the first "alternate history" I've seen and I thought it was a cool concept. After hearing people talk about it I'm glad I never got around to playing it.
Sorry to cold post, but if you find alternate history interesting, check out some of harry turtledove's novels. He has alternate history series about ww1+2 if the confederates won the civil war, if moderately more advanced aliens invaded during the middle of ww2, and if Japan launched a full blown invasion of the west coast
@@joshmataosky9698 We just wish we have more of those in video games form. At least we have something close like Iron Harvest for example.
So it turns out this game did in fact have a steam release. However, it was removed in 2014 steamdb.info/app/12720/history/
Why don't you do a video review on the game Black ? It was one of my favourite games on the PS2.
it was so impressive back then
I know right ? I mean it had better graphics and shooting mechanics than most games back in that era.
“And the military is totally fine with just pulling up civilians and saying alright fine, you’re going to fight for us now.” Jarek said in a tone of disbelief, not remembering about that thing known as THE DRAFT & the fact that is literally what draftees are...
;)
That's not at all the same in any way. With the draft civilians are trained. These are just random ass dudes on the street that they give guns.
Games you might want to try out:
-Devastation
Middle of the road FPS that takes place in a dystopian police state. It has a crazy selection of around 20 weapons (micro gatling gun, exploding rats etc). Main character looks like blonde Eminem.
-Kreed
A real..........blyatiful sci-fi FPS gem from Russia. European games magazines called it in preview articles a potential competitor for Doom 3. Yeah, if Alpha Prime was diet Doom 3, then Kreed is soggy paper mache Doom 3. Play this if you want to hurt yourself (for our pleasure, of course).
-Chrome
Made by the poles from Techland (known for Dying Light and Dead Island). Takes many elements from Deus Ex and combines it with wide, open levels. Also John St John voices the main character.
I can't believe you only have 131k, I assumed you were at like 1m. I've been watching for about a month and a half now and I love your content. You're very similar to Mandalore but with a consistent and impressive upload schedule. Keep it up, you're gonna be big
And at 9:19 was that George Bush??
I had bought this game when it was new and genuinely liked it, but I went back and tried to play it around a year ago and it... Stunned me with how it was nothing like my memory of it. The only thing I still liked was the first level escaping the planes attacking your tower.
Ok but the melee kill at 10:49 is hilarious
I don't know if it's been suggested, but I would love to see an Hour of Victory video.
"Hour Of Victory" is the poor man's "Medal Of Honor Airborne."
I actually liked this game when I was little and I don’t know why I did
Same
Whenever I think about it I keep forgetting the full title and thinking its Turning Point USA
God. I've bin trying to remember this game for the longest time. You can never really find games that people don't talk about. So thank you. You are doing God's work.
Fun Fact: spark ent. (The guys who made this) also made Call of Duty: Finest Hour.
They also made Legendary and Lost Planet 3.
I played this game when a guy in IT loaded it as a Mod for one of the WW2 Shooters , I was playing in 2020.
I thought it was a mod. A good mod by mod standards but I never thought it was a real full game that some one charged money for.
I am really surprised that It is not one and glad that I did pay for it ,. By thinking it was a mod , I enjoyed it far more then I would have if I had paid for the game
We feed on your pain and suffering, Jarek, that's why we like to see you play bad games.
Jokes aside, I find more interest in old games I haven't heard about than the newer titles that everyone is playing and talking about.
I don't get mad at games like this. Their so bad their fun, like Rogue Warrior.
Save that for the soulless greedy corporate products we usually get now from AAA.
@@Gruntvc I get what you mean but at the same time, I think I'd have more fun playing yet another Ubisoft game than a PAINFULLY mediocre game like Enemy Front or Rogue Warrior (gameplay wise, the swearing and over the top edginess of it gets me cracking every time).
I have fun playing the stuff that somewhat work, like that Legendary game Jarek was talking about.
@João Gabriel Yule, I cannot agree with you on playing yet another copy paste list of chores Ubisoft sandbox game. But I do get what you're saying.
At launch, no way were games like that worth it. But given how cheap they are now, can't say there's much to be angry about now. Most of them don't even exist as game devs now.
Legendary was fun. Had some fun with Turok 2008 too, get the feeling not too many feel that way about tgat one though.
@@Gruntvc Yeah, that's what I meant. And was just giving an example, aside Siege, Ubisoft has rubbed me the wrong way with their latest stuff. Simply not worth the price.
@@Gruntvc Btw I had some fun with Turok. It was kind of nice, specially since it was so cheap. Another series that I enjoyed was Sniper Ghost Warrior from City Interactive. They're know for their budget stuff.
Not a bad game buuuuut
Can you review freedom fighters?
So this was the inspiration for cyberpunk 2077 timestamp :40
Hey jarek! I think you should try out Tresspasser, it's a Jurassic Park game ahead of it's time. (Not in a good way) it's my favorite game personally. It's made by Microsoft and the story behind it's creation is pretty interesting. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I believe it's the first game ever? Or at least fps to introduce physics. Like boxes falling and rolling stuff like that. Anyway I just found your videos recently and am watching through them. Keep up the good work. PS. Idk where you could get a copy you'll probably need to download it from, ummm ARRRRRR..
Try playing a little thing called "You Are Empty" next. Got trashed in reviews, but none of 'em got that it was basically a Doom Clone before they became cool again.
This just made me realize, you could add little segment where we get the hear the full game audio. That shotgun at the beginning sounded good.
This game is special to me regardless of how bad it might be because it was the first game i had on my ps3 back in the day.
Damn, I remember when I first heard about this game, it sounded absolutely cool - in concept. Back then I had a very crappy PC, so I couldn't play it at launch, and basically forgot about this game for years, even when I eventually got a decent computer years later. After watching this review I'm so glad I never bothered to even torrent this game at some point, hahaha
This game had an amazing glitch where the shotgun would always glitch and double fire. Also when you would shoot an enemy with a shotgun the enemies would just bob up and nose dive.
I had this game when it was new in 2009, it's a console port and it DOES crash after the tutorial. I gave up trying to run it back then. Oh and get this: The developers actively refused to fix the crash bugs. No wonder they went out of business.
This game feels like the spiritual sequel to Call of Duty Finest Hour
Hard to believe that the team that made Call of Duty: Finest hour made this game, they also made the first Medal of Honor games.
I bought this game at a pawn shop around 2011 alongside Halo 3. I played a whole two missions, got about halfway into mission 3 and died. I thought "No biggie, it'll take me back to a recent checkpoint"..... *It took me back to the start of the level.* I noped the fuck out of that game and sold it at a Vintage Stock. The game is so bad that they have like three copies sitting on their shelf, and I'm 99% certain my copy is among them.
I was given a copy of this game as a gift from a family member who knew nothing about gaming.
I played it... and good... lord. It is just... so bad.
Reminds me of stories of grandparents buying crappy video games from the 1 dollar bin for their grandkids on their birthdays or Christmas. They had fake a smile and pretend they appreciate it while also having to play the video game while granny is there to see her grandchild happy. She won't leave until she sees that big smile!
No mater what anyone says... I will always have a place in my heart for this game.
You really end up talking about every game of my childhood that I've never heard anyone else talk about
I started watching your videos for nostalgic trips and wonder if you would try and play Clive Barker’s Jericho game. Also glad to join as a subscribers.
Honestly I forgot this game existed until I was just reminded of it while looking at a list of every WWII based FPS game ever
New game: don't want the spoilers, can watch anywhere.
Old game with a reputation: can't watch so easily elsewhere, either already seen all the spoilers or clearly don't care to get the game in the last decade.
Watching your twich stream introduced me to this game and it is shit and your talking made it better
Churchhill *dies*
Germany "its free real estate"
But seriously, pretty bold to asume the brit did good in WW II, they were the most useless faction of the allies.
They could barely defend their island from planes that had not that much time to raid because of fuel.
They could not figure out how to build a tank.
D-day would be impossible without the US giving the majority of resources.
To be fair, they did okay in Berlin.
But still, WW II draind the UK.
Johnbob schwamkopf You have naive and too much America view on history
shit never realized there aren't any digital copies i chucked my only copies out the window and into the neighbours house
I bought a physical PC copy of this from my local donation store just so it'd cover my incentive. I'm surprised to see this pop up in my recommended.
I remember a time as a kid I went to EB games to get a game and I had a budget and they only had X amount of games available that fit in that price range. It was either this or nothing I should have taken nothing. Even as a kid I thought this sucked I just didn't know why.