To my mind, Woody Allen's raspy voice sounded very much like Peter Falk's normal voice and quite a bit like Kirk Douglas as well. Obviously, Tony was wrong but those may be the best wrong guesses in WML MG history.
Some in the TV audience must have been disappointed that Woody was not Cary Grant. I will l say that his answer to Pamela's dopey question about availability was priceless.
I doubt anyone was disappointed, they could clearly see it was Woody before he signed in as, Cary Grant, in what was an obvious joke to everyone...but you, I suppose.
Daly seems exceptionally at ease with Woody. He must have been a great fan. I believe at this point most didn't take him seriously and he was treated like the latest fly by night comedian. Little did they know.
Interesting connection here in that Tony Randall later appeared in Woody’s film “Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex* (*But Were Afraid to Ask)” in 1972.
Allen had this episode of "What's My Line?" in mind when he made the segment "What's My Perversion?" for "Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex". Jack Barry hosted it, and Pamela Mason, Regis Philbin, Robert Q. Lewis, and Toni Holt were on the panel. Jack Barry hosted. Tony Randall starred in it, too. ruclips.net/video/ZoTDK95Ua94/видео.html
I've been watching these videos for awhile now and the panel is so spot on. Not this time. I can't believe they didn't know Woody Allen! He uses the same voice every time he is on the show.
Johan Bengtsson I agree. She was a bit awkward in her phrasing of questions and not very confident, but the content/intention of most of her questioning wasn't bad. She probably could have improved with practice. As for Phyllis Newman and Suzy Knickerbocker, I'm not a fan of either one as WML panelists. I just miss Dorothy.... :(
Does anyone remember the great turn Woody Allen did on the original Candid Camera ? I also still get laughs at my favorite film of his , and he wasn't even in it - What's Up Tiger Lily ? , one of the funniest spoofs ever made .
Unless I am mistaken, Woody Allen, Clint Eastwood, and Martin Scorsese, are the only Hollywood filmmakers left in their late 70's/early 80's, still making films to this day.
flaggerify Polanski only made two American films. Not really what I'd call a "Hollywood Filmmaker", at least as far as my definition of the term tells me.
Primates have four appendages. However, being a primate doesn’t require being exclusively bipedal nor does it preclude using their frontal appendages frequently as both “arms” and “legs”.
What word does Randall expostulate at 15:59 that sounds like 'follogia' to me? I've been to Venice and a gondolier does not have to be as handsome as Gino Macropodio, whose name and accent should have made the question where he was from superfluous, and why didn't Randall recognize him at sight if he knew him?
***** I'd have to re-watch the Bob Hope segment you mentioned in order to see what you mean, but I was thinking that he was sort of "pulling a Danny Kaye" with the lies and otherwise deliberately misleading answers .... :) He seemed to be having fun, and this was a fun segment to watch. In fact it's one of the most entertaining and fun mystery guests segments I've watched recently -- but yesterday's with Art Carney also ranks high in that regard. Two winners in a row! :D
@@EvermoreOfESH Woody would have been 18 or 19 in 1954, living in New York, so what makes you think he didn't see Bob Hope's WML appearance on live TV?
Woody Allen is a lucky man. For the past 50 years as a filmmaker, he has worked with some of the most beautiful women of the 2nd half of the 20th century, and the early part of the 21st century, including Ursula Andress, Mariel Hemingway, Charlotte Rampling, Mira Sorvino, Scarlett Johansson, Penelope Cruz, Marion Cotillard, and Cate Blachett, just to name a few. Not to mention, his films have resulted in more best actress Oscar wins than any other Hollywood filmmaker.
***** Don't forget Mia Farrow. ***** I haven't been able to fully enjoy a Woody Allen movie since that incident. I could (and did) enjoy his performance in this WML episode, because it was so long before any of that happened, but I have to admit that knowing too much negative stuff about a celebrity's personal life makes it difficult for me to appreciate his or her art. Perhaps that's wrong of me, but it's kind of a gut reaction.
SaveThe TPC I never try to judge an entertainer on personal life, or Politics. If I did that for every entertainer, I wouldn't have anything to consume.
***** Agreed, but for me it takes an effort to overcome connecting the performance with the performer. That's why I try to avoid gossip columns, programs, and the whole "rumor mill" in general, but some scandals become so huge that they are just public knowledge no matter how much you try to avoid hearing about them. For example, I have always enjoyed Bill Cosby's humor and even his children's books and programs, but now....
His personal life detracts significantly from his legacy but the comments of numerous actors and actresses who would agree to appear in any film in which they were asked shows that they consider him to be an exceptionally good director to work for.
Overseas travel was not so common when this show was made - today a Venetian gondolier would be guessed quite easily once Italy was named. I think John Daly is tired of the show in that he lets the panel win with 'zookeeper' although they don't identify the animals concerned. He lets Woody Allen give false answers and he lets Arlene Francis twist her question into two questions when she starts with 'off the land'. She meant in the air but rescued it by switching to 'on water'. In the early shows Mr D would have been stricter, but he's rather slack here. Perhaps the show ran for too long.
The mid 60’s were an interesting time in TV history. Color film was a choice and some things were still filmed in black and white. Probably to save money.
In 1972, five to six years after this "What's My Line" episode, Woody Allen would go on to write and direct "Everything You Wanted to Know About Sex But Were Afraid to Ask," with one segment lampooning "What's My Line" and another hilarious segment starring Tony Randall and Burt Reynolds. Here's part of the last segment: ruclips.net/video/nM3fglmaRrA/видео.html
I'm Sure there's a red-tape infested laundry list of reasons; however I'm still Mighty Flummoxed why (the heck) Casino Royale isnt included within the 007 canon.. ...Nor Sir David Niven within the hall of 007 artists .. 🤷♂️🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♂️🤷♀️🤷♀️
That was my favorite mystery guest segment so far. I love the way Daly just let him run with the irreverent and sometimes purposefully misleading answers to great humorous effect, even when the lack of focus appeared to fluster the goal-oriented Mr. Cerf. As far as Casino Royale being the "new Ian Fleming movie", I am not so sure I would agree to that degree. Does anyone know if Mr. Fleming ever took direct credit for this project, as from my point of view it can at best be considered a quite loose adaption.
What's the point in John not revealing the Gondalier's location if Bennett was allowed to ask anyway. They should not have been allowed to ask where he was from.
Last show I asked why mrs (Kirk) Douglas was named so and not by her 'real' name. Now I wonder why mrs Mason still was called "mrs Mason" when she divorced James Mason in 1964?
+Johan Bengtsson It was simply a matter of convention. Had she chosen to revert back to her maiden name, she would have been known as Miss Ostrer. But once she had become Mrs. Mason, a divorce would not change her form of address to Miss Mason, just as widowhood would not have changed it.
Every time I've seen this show and when the guest is about to shake the hands of the panel, the men stand and the women keep seated. Was this a thing? Is this a thing?
This was an era when a gentleman stood up when a lady entered the room, as a sign of respect. Women were always supposed to be treated with respect. Women didn't have to stand when shaking hands unless showing respect for someone elderly, someone of high social status, etc. Arlene and Dorothy stood to shake hands with Eleanor Roosevelt, for instance. Dorothy, who was Catholic, would stand to greet any priest or nun, as she had been taught in school.
Men standing to shake hands when meeting someone was a sign of repect. . When you stand, you literally rise to the occasion of showing respect to them.
"Casino Royale", not to be confused with the 2006 official film of the same name, was a notorious flop. It also took an unusual amount of time to make the film. If IMDB is correct, it took TEN straight months to shoot it!
It might be said to have killed its producer, Charlie Feldman. Having to ride herd on that multi ring circus proved to be too much for him, health wise.
Yeah, Pamela Mason was really not all that great. No wonder she sucked as panelist. Her first appearance was taped earlier this night, and aired on May 15. Oh, and I understand Aliza Kashi and Pamela Tiffin were also terrible, too.
+Vahan Nisanian I felt so bad for poor pamela T, but I thought this pamela M. whoever she is, was okay. I believe she would have gotten better in time. pratice makes perfect - sometimes
I never understood the appeal of Woody Allen. He's so nasty and he isn't funny in the least. He's just base and crude, there's nothing humourous about him. I always have to fast forward through everything he's in, whether he's on the poor dreaded panel. UGH!
I agree that Woody is a comedic genius; however, his subject matter was often base and crude. It's a shame, really, because he could have done so much more.
How fun to see Woody Allen. He exuded personality and quirky humor without saying a word!
People have always either really loved him or really hated him, his humor is too esoteric for many.
@@rogerpropes7129 His early movies feature a lot of slapstick and goofy jokes. Very funny.
To my mind, Woody Allen's raspy voice sounded very much like Peter Falk's normal voice and quite a bit like Kirk Douglas as well. Obviously, Tony was wrong but those may be the best wrong guesses in WML MG history.
Always loved Tony Randall when he was a panelist. If only he were an early regular.
Tony Randall never fails to amuse and impress me.
David Hyde Peirce does the best imitation of Tony Randall ever.
Tony's my favorite guest panelist.
I really like the banter between Bennet and John.
Then you're banal
Some in the TV audience must have been disappointed that Woody was not Cary Grant. I will l say that his answer to Pamela's dopey question about availability was priceless.
I was a bit disappointed, and I hoped that it was a fake-out, where CG would shove WA aside and take his place.
I doubt anyone was disappointed, they could clearly see it was Woody before he signed in as, Cary Grant, in what was an obvious joke to everyone...but you, I suppose.
PAMELA MASON: Are you available *anywhere* in New York?
WOODY ALLEN: Try me!
😂
Love it when someone in the audience whistles at Woody and he reacts instantly! :) 17:53
Johan Bengtsson
Can you blame him, he wrote Cary Grant...as if...
Daly seems exceptionally at ease with Woody. He must have been a great fan.
I believe at this point most didn't take him seriously and he was treated like the latest fly by night comedian.
Little did they know.
I LOVE Arlene Francis!
Interesting connection here in that Tony Randall later appeared in Woody’s film “Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex* (*But Were Afraid to Ask)” in 1972.
Allen had this episode of "What's My Line?" in mind when he made the segment "What's My Perversion?" for "Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex". Jack Barry hosted it, and Pamela Mason, Regis Philbin, Robert Q. Lewis, and Toni Holt were on the panel. Jack Barry hosted. Tony Randall starred in it, too.
ruclips.net/video/ZoTDK95Ua94/видео.html
It was funny but not more funnier than an average episode of WML, everything felt just like the syndicated WML. :)
I've been watching these videos for awhile now and the panel is so spot on. Not this time. I can't believe they didn't know Woody Allen! He uses the same voice every time he is on the show.
Note to Phyllis and or Suzy. Come back. All is forgiven. Especially after Pamela.
I must say in defence of Pamela that she was not much worse than other guest panelists on WML.
Johan Bengtsson I agree. She was a bit awkward in her phrasing of questions and not very confident, but the content/intention of most of her questioning wasn't bad. She probably could have improved with practice. As for Phyllis Newman and Suzy Knickerbocker, I'm not a fan of either one as WML panelists. I just miss Dorothy.... :(
Yeah. I miss "Would I look eccentric carrying this down Park Avenue?"
Johan Bengtsson
And she was sober.
ToddSF 94109 Ha ha! :)
Does anyone remember the great turn Woody Allen did on the original Candid Camera ? I also still get laughs at my favorite film of his , and he wasn't even in it - What's Up Tiger Lily ? , one of the funniest spoofs ever made .
Don't tell me what I can't do. Or I'll have my mustache eat your beard.
Actually, he was in What's Up Tiger Lily? They cut away for little "commentary" segments, where he is interviewed about what's going on in the movie.
Unless I am mistaken, Woody Allen, Clint Eastwood, and Martin Scorsese, are the only Hollywood filmmakers left in their late 70's/early 80's, still making films to this day.
Brian de Palma, Ridley Scott and Francis Ford Coppola?
Terrence Malick and Polanski.
flaggerify Polanski only made two American films. Not really what I'd call a "Hollywood Filmmaker", at least as far as my definition of the term tells me.
***** If you're going to be pedantic, Woody Allen makes films in New York not Hollywood.
flaggerify Fair enough. You were right, and I was wrong.
Gary, do you have any favorite modern Woody Allen films? My parents love "Midnight in Paris", and its soundtrack.
The girl said gorillas are 4-legged (non-primate).
Primates have four appendages. However, being a primate doesn’t require being exclusively bipedal nor does it preclude using their frontal appendages frequently as both “arms” and “legs”.
What word does Randall expostulate at 15:59 that sounds like 'follogia' to me? I've been to Venice and a gondolier does not have to be as handsome as Gino Macropodio, whose name and accent should have made the question where he was from superfluous, and why didn't Randall recognize him at sight if he knew him?
Gorillas _four_ legged ? No way !
I know! How did they get away with calling a gorilla 4 legged? No one questioned it. Weird.
"An inside the PORK home run".....LOL.....oh Bennett!!!
Galileocan g
Only works if you have a New Yoik accent.
I was hoping that John Daly was going to come back with "and the pig wouldn't give the ball back, because he was a ball hog".
Bennett was such a ham!
Damn greatest at its best love him 🇺🇸🖖
Woody Allen clearly took Bob Hope lessons. He had his 1954 appearance in mind here.
***** I'd have to re-watch the Bob Hope segment you mentioned in order to see what you mean, but I was thinking that he was sort of "pulling a Danny Kaye" with the lies and otherwise deliberately misleading answers .... :) He seemed to be having fun, and this was a fun segment to watch. In fact it's one of the most entertaining and fun mystery guests segments I've watched recently -- but yesterday's with Art Carney also ranks high in that regard. Two winners in a row! :D
Woody Allen never would have seen Bob Hope's 1954 WML episode. WML never did re-runs of their old 1950s shows.
@@EvermoreOfESH Woody would have been 18 or 19 in 1954, living in New York, so what makes you think he didn't see Bob Hope's WML appearance on live TV?
Amazingly, Woody Allen had yet to make his first film.
Woody has said he modeled some of his comedy after Bob Hope in the movies. He was a big fan.
Read the biography of James Mason "Odd Man Out".
On the last opportunity I thought Tony Randall was going to say Burgess Meredith. :)
Woody Allen is a lucky man. For the past 50 years as a filmmaker, he has worked with some of the most beautiful women of the 2nd half of the 20th century, and the early part of the 21st century, including Ursula Andress, Mariel Hemingway, Charlotte Rampling, Mira Sorvino, Scarlett Johansson, Penelope Cruz, Marion Cotillard, and Cate Blachett, just to name a few.
Not to mention, his films have resulted in more best actress Oscar wins than any other Hollywood filmmaker.
***** Don't forget Mia Farrow.
***** I haven't been able to fully enjoy a Woody Allen movie since that incident. I could (and did) enjoy his performance in this WML episode, because it was so long before any of that happened, but I have to admit that knowing too much negative stuff about a celebrity's personal life makes it difficult for me to appreciate his or her art. Perhaps that's wrong of me, but it's kind of a gut reaction.
SaveThe TPC I never try to judge an entertainer on personal life, or Politics. If I did that for every entertainer, I wouldn't have anything to consume.
*****
Agreed, but for me it takes an effort to overcome connecting the performance with the performer. That's why I try to avoid gossip columns, programs, and the whole "rumor mill" in general, but some scandals become so huge that they are just public knowledge no matter how much you try to avoid hearing about them. For example, I have always enjoyed Bill Cosby's humor and even his children's books and programs, but now....
His personal life detracts significantly from his legacy but the comments of numerous actors and actresses who would agree to appear in any film in which they were asked shows that they consider him to be an exceptionally good director to work for.
Worked with them? So, he then went home to his stepdaughter wife.
The gondolier is cute, Gino sono buono
-reference to Ronzoni ad of around that time ;)
Overseas travel was not so common when this show was made - today a Venetian gondolier would be guessed quite easily once Italy was named. I think John Daly is tired of the show in that he lets the panel win with 'zookeeper' although they don't identify the animals concerned. He lets Woody Allen give false answers and he lets Arlene Francis twist her question into two questions when she starts with 'off the land'. She meant in the air but rescued it by switching to 'on water'. In the early shows Mr D would have been stricter, but he's rather slack here. Perhaps the show ran for too long.
The mid 60’s were an interesting time in TV history. Color film was a choice and some things were still filmed in black and white. Probably to save money.
WML was broadcast in color beginning in 1966, but recorded as a black and white kinescope.
Woody was 20 here.
Actually 30
wow what a youngster he was back then!!!! :D
@@galileocan - Yes, 30 is more like it. No way was he 20.
NOPE. He was born in November 1935. Do the math.
Gondolier? That's what the doctor said I caught! 😁
I'll get my coat...
In 1972, five to six years after this "What's My Line" episode, Woody Allen would go on to write and direct "Everything You Wanted to Know About Sex But Were Afraid to Ask," with one segment lampooning "What's My Line" and another hilarious segment starring Tony Randall and Burt Reynolds. Here's part of the last segment: ruclips.net/video/nM3fglmaRrA/видео.html
I'm Sure there's a red-tape infested laundry list of reasons; however I'm still Mighty Flummoxed why (the heck) Casino Royale isnt included within the 007 canon..
...Nor Sir David Niven within the hall of 007 artists ..
🤷♂️🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♂️🤷♀️🤷♀️
Gorillas are not four legged animals. They two arms and two legs.
That was my favorite mystery guest segment so far. I love the way Daly just let him run with the irreverent and sometimes purposefully misleading answers to great humorous effect, even when the lack of focus appeared to fluster the goal-oriented Mr. Cerf.
As far as Casino Royale being the "new Ian Fleming movie", I am not so sure I would agree to that degree. Does anyone know if Mr. Fleming ever took direct credit for this project, as from my point of view it can at best be considered a quite loose adaption.
...I suppose Mr. Daly did let Danny Kaye get away with bending the facts also. ;)
Mr. Fleming died two years before Casino Royale came out. But I suspect he would have hated that version of Casino Royale all the way to the bank.
Miss Pegelow could come and take care of all my needs …
Can someone please enlighten me and explain how a gondolier would sometimes perform his services by going to a person's home?
+Jeff Vaughn
It's traditionally a water taxi- and you would say a cab driver would go to a person's home.
californiahummus
Aha! That makes sense. I was only thinking of it from a tourist standpoint in that they go to them for a joy ride. Thanks!
What's the point in John not revealing the Gondalier's location if Bennett was allowed to ask anyway. They should not have been allowed to ask where he was from.
This is the only episode I have seen where the panel didn't female, male, female, male...you dig?
I really liked Woody Allen until he started doing some strange stuff late in life.
Mr Bennett Cerf has a similar accent as JFK.
DreamLink4U
Nay Nay Nay.
Big difference between Boston accent and New York.
Daly missed a no on are you smoking a cigar.
Last show I asked why mrs (Kirk) Douglas was named so and not by her 'real' name. Now I wonder why mrs Mason still was called "mrs Mason" when she divorced James Mason in 1964?
+Johan Bengtsson
It was simply a matter of convention. Had she chosen to revert back to her maiden name, she would have been known as Miss Ostrer. But once she had become Mrs. Mason, a divorce would not change her form of address to Miss Mason, just as widowhood would not have changed it.
Allan Stewart Konigsberg...
I wished it actually was Cary Grant.
Is Pamela Mason doing an early audition for the part of Delores Umbrage in the Harry Potter franchise?
Gorillas have two legs, not four.
Every time I've seen this show and when the guest is about to shake the hands of the panel, the men stand and the women keep seated. Was this a thing? Is this a thing?
This was an era when a gentleman stood up when a lady entered the room, as a sign of respect. Women were always supposed to be treated with respect. Women didn't have to stand when shaking hands unless showing respect for someone elderly, someone of high social status, etc. Arlene and Dorothy stood to shake hands with Eleanor Roosevelt, for instance. Dorothy, who was Catholic, would stand to greet any priest or nun, as she had been taught in school.
Men standing to shake hands when meeting someone was a sign of repect. . When you stand, you literally rise to the occasion of showing respect to them.
It's called good manners.
@@donaldmanthei1224 I wouldn't think of not standing. It's just something that is done. In business especially, but in social meetings also.
@@donaldmanthei1224It’s called having an education …
For the most part it sounds as if Woody is either passing a stone or taking a dump, or both …
Pamela's son married Belinda Carlisle.
And as Belinda sang on her post-Go-Gos hit, "Ooh, Heaven is a place on Earth!"
Bennett with another good one! GROOOANN
"Casino Royale", not to be confused with the 2006 official film of the same name, was a notorious flop. It also took an unusual amount of time to make the film. If IMDB is correct, it took TEN straight months to shoot it!
It might be said to have killed its producer, Charlie Feldman. Having to ride herd on that multi ring circus proved to be too much for him, health wise.
It took five directors to make that movie - too many cooks spoil the broth.
It had David Niven, though.
Pamela Mason appeared in the 1960 comedy classic, "Sex Kittens Go to College."
Kurt Douglas. 😝
First contestant's line: not in THAT hairdo she don't. Wow. Large curly creature fell on top of her head.
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I never understand why people put timestamps on these videos. Just watch the whole thing. It puts it all into a better context.
is pamela mason marsha's sister?
James Mason's wife/
There he goes again :(
No comment as far as Woody Allen is concerned.The only people that I've met that love him r crazy just like he is.
Yeah, Pamela Mason was really not all that great. No wonder she sucked as panelist. Her first appearance was taped earlier this night, and aired on May 15.
Oh, and I understand Aliza Kashi and Pamela Tiffin were also terrible, too.
+Vahan Nisanian I felt so bad for poor pamela T, but I thought this pamela M. whoever she is, was okay. I believe she would have gotten better in time. pratice makes perfect - sometimes
I was unhappy that he wrote Mr Grant an well... Woody Allen is not remotely Cary Grant.
Ingrid Dubbel - He knows he’s not remotely Cary Grant, that’s why he wrote that... Ironic humor. :)
Oh for Heaven's sake, it was a joke, woman. A joke made funny because he is the antithesis of Cary Grant. smh
I never understood the appeal of Woody Allen. He's so nasty and he isn't funny in the least. He's just base and crude, there's nothing humourous about him. I always have to fast forward through everything he's in, whether he's on the poor dreaded panel. UGH!
The only potentially redeeming aspect about him is that he could/can play Jazz Clarinet pretty well.
Woody Allen is a comedic genius. That you can't see that only speaks to the dullness of your sense of humor.
@@Cosmo-Kramer - No. Merrida100 is right.
@@finster1968 Ahh, another humorless person. Pity.
I agree that Woody is a comedic genius; however, his subject matter was often base and crude. It's a shame, really, because he could have done so much more.
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