Arlene is stunning here. She did have work done on her face over the years and the results were very good. She was in good hands IMO. She looks younger than ever here.
I think the key factor is she was a less is more girl. She didn't go overboard and kept it classy she didn't chase away her age.... She gracefully helped gravity along. I adore still. Her beauty transcends.
Watching these programmes, some things seem so non-politically correct to us nowadays, like the audience whistling when an attractive guest comes in and on one episode the host disparaged one male guest due to his receding hairline, also asking the women: "are you a Mrs or a Miss?" and so on, yet at the same time there is this wonderful woman in her sixties who pilots a politician around. She was amazing. It is nice to see the often erudite and articulate panel members, though. No shouting or buzzers or bright lights. Very sophisticated vibes on this show. I had never watched it before I found it here last week and now I am binge-watching. It has also been educational as not being American I have had to look up people like Barry Goldwater, Dorothy Kilgallen and Arlene Francis to name a few.
It was all back in the day when you wouldn't call someone by their first name if you didn't know them well. Some of the old fashioned ideas we see in this program are shocking to my modern mind, but some of it is actually quite pleasing - in a lot of ways we were more polite back then, but being more relaxed now could be a good thing too.
@Caroline Wiggins: The manners were better then; the politeness, consideration, and respect for everyone, including families watching, was admirable. Puts political "correctness" to shame! Its also educational, as you said, and it's fun to watch stars playing themselves, such ad Paul Newman, Natalie Wood, and Ronald Reagan. It's great to finally see the stars whom you heard so much about, but never saw, because you we're born just when the show ended, or later!
We remember what we gained: more acceptance for a lot of ideas,more acceptable indifference towards matters of "faith" & "belief",a wider range of socially acceptable behavior,etc. but we are quick to forget what we have lost. Imo,this show is far more pleasant than the current gatherings we have inspite of all the "progress" we have made.
She is one of my favorite contestants. The way the questions were going, I was expecting someone to ask if she makes condoms. Then I remembered that in those days, no way would that have been allowed. This show was FUN!!
And they also forget that she was a communist sympathizer and should have been arrested for giving aid and comfort to the enemy when she returned to this country from N. Vietnam.
@@TheBatugan77 I had an uncle whom I loved dearly (who fought in WWII). So, out of respect for YOUR uncle (and how the Vietnam vets were so horribly treated by so many), I will never watch the part of any What's My Line where Jane Fonda appears.
Woody was a very visible comedian, comedy writer, and TV guest until he became a dedicated driven filmmaker following his earlier successes on the big screen. He wasn't particularly reclusive after he became a famous director (and movie star) - I think he had even begun his weekly live appearances playing jazz clarinet with a large ensemble in a NYC club, which he may possibly still be doing to this day in 2023 as I write this.
@@FlockOfHawks It wasn't terribly long ago that I read that he was still appearing and playing with his New Orleans style jazz band at the Carlyle Hotel every Monday night. That was around 2020, enough time for things to go steeply downhill for a man his age. I also hope he's still doing it.
at c 20:00 >> I am working from memory here, so those who own Gil Fate's book correct me if I remembered this wrong. Fates recorded this as Arlene? puzzling over "she's beautiful and married to a Frenchman" and Woody chiming up, "It's Mrs. DeGaulle" in reference to the first lady of France from 1959-1970. As we see, it is Woody who puzzled over the "beautiful and married to a Frenchman" and Arlene who had the spontaneous witticism. Of course in the late 70s double checking the WML archive was hard to do, not like today with the "What's My Line?" RUclips Channel at the ready with search feature.
soulierinvestments Your memory of Fates's words is better than his memory of the show! From page 101 of "What's My Line? TV's Most Famous Panel Show" by Gil Fates: "Although by the rules conferences were legal only if permission was granted by Obermeister Daly, the panel members occasionally did sneak in some fast asides to each other. On one such occasion Jane Fonda was the Mystery Guest and Arlene was recapping out loud. 'She's beautiful and married to a Frenchman," puzzled Arlene. Woody Allen leaned over to her. 'It's Mrs. DeGaulle,' he said."
Actually Arlene said something else first in response to Woody that makes it even funnier. She said, "You think that's impossible?" Indeed a fair question to ask, even in jest. Then there was a pause before Arlene thought of her next line: "Don't be silly. It's Mrs. De Gaulle." And yes, it's a lot easier when you can go to the video replay.
But I am gonna go into the career of Jane Fonda. At this time, she was married to French filmmaker Roger Vadim, and starred in his French films, at a time when so many English-speaking stars, American or British, starred in films made all over Europe.
@@kentetalman9008 oh, sorry … I forgot that you are the President of the Bennett Cerf Fan club. If you are unable to realise that this show is rigged then … stupid?
Jane went through a number of distinct phases. Here she is before she starred in some sort of science fiction called "Barberella." It did not look either feminist or fundamentalist. At this point, Jane was in her sex kitten stage. In a few years Fonda and Vadim parted ways; she evolved into her intense dramatic actress-political activist stage.
this EXPRESSED respect for every other person addressing each other in the show and elsewhere IS LONG GONE in 21ST century and guess what: children will grow up without respect for people around them.the sad part is we and they that are kids nowadays will die ....... it seems now that wild animals have more respect for other animals around them than people do that's what i call the evolution of human civilization backwards
Some of these epis are actually extremely good with good panelists. I was always of the impression the series was really lost without Dorothy Kilgallen. In general have to say it really was. Think the great one without her are here and there. Not there on a steady basis.
I am reading "The reminiscences of Bennett Serf" He was right there with every famous publisher for the last 100 years. Fascinating story. Goldwater's pilot looks like Sandra Day O'Connor to me. I miss Dorothy....
When they said: "Is it made of a material which is supple rather than stiff?" "Oh, I should say so." I was a bit nonplussed. Are thimbles not made of metal in the US then? And then when they got to the end, I understood.
As John said, she revolutionized thimbles for the first time in 2000 years by making them out of plastic. Not knowing that at the time of the game, her answer did seem wrong.
In my opinion she was not beautiful. She was a little pretty, not at all a stunner, merrily average. She was no great beauty, but she had very nice thick blond hair and a great body. She also had finesse in her movements and of course she was a famous actor's daughter. She prob. also had a lot of self-confidence which helped make her stand out.
@@Lafayette320 Probably the most political question any panelist asked in WML history, including revealing his views. It wasn't until "Anne Hall" that he told the joke about wanting to do to his girlfriend was Eisenhower was doing to the country. I suspect John was not happy to hear it. I wonder if Woody was invited back another time before the show ended later that year. Notice also that when Woody asked that question, they showed not the guest but Phyllis Newman, although by the time they did show her, she was smiling.
She was Against The War..Millions of Young adults her age were against it..She had the Guts to go against the Military Industrial War Machine. We needed More to stand Up like Her not less.. Bravo I Say...Bravo..
Edited -- Goldwater was in between his two Senate careers -- 1953 - 1965 and 1969 - 1987. (Goldwater did not seek Senate reelection in 1964 when he ran for president. Johnson was elected vice president and senator both in 1960. All bases covered.) Allen's psychiatrist question is hilarious, though, in fairness, the person who won in 1964 probably needed one more.
Unlike Goldwater, John Kerry did run for Senate re-election as well as the presidency in 2004 - He lost the presidential race, but was re-elected to the Senate, where he continued to serve.
@@loopshackr Not all states permit a candidate to appear on the same ballot in the same year for two different offices. It is more common now than before. It was not clear JFK/LBJ would win (it still isn't clear they actually won) when his Senate term was expiring at the same time (1960). Texas passed what is known as "the LBJ law" to allow him to appear on ballots in TX as both the candidate for the Senate and the candidate for VP. Arizona law in 1964 did not permit Goldwater to run for Senate and President. In the past, some senators have run for President in years when their 6 year terms would not expire but declined to run when they would have to give up their Senate seat to run for President. Goldwater ran for the other Senate seat from AZ when he returned to the Senate in 1968 -- he did not get reelected to his original seat.
Jane looks so gorgeous! My 2 favorite films she made were "" Walk On The Wild Side" with Barbara Stanwyck and "" The Dollmaker "" 1984 which is a must see!!❤
Thimbles could be made out of any of those materials mentioned. I'm sure they were made out of leather at some time, and plastic is a pretty recent invention. People have been sewing for centuries.
Jane appeared on WML in the sixties four times. What an evolution that was. In 1964, she made a pistol firing motion with her hand at Bennett when he zeroed in on her. This time she stuck out her tongue at Bennett, cause the question is hard to answer. Roger Vadim, the French director, was her husband at the time.
His real name was Roger Vadim Plemiannikov. He was Russian by ancestry, but French by birth and by culture. His father was a White Russian diplomat, fleeing the Bolsheviks.
I love Jane Fonda. My top three favorites of her films in order of preference are Sunday in New York, Any Wednesday and Barefoot in the Park. Interestingly enough, they all take place in Manhattan.
Fonda and Redford, were a delicious couple in Barefoot In The Park. And enjoyed her with Rod Taylor, in Sunday In New York. Romantic pictures when New York was certainly more glamorous and Romantic then today. Breakfast At Tiffany's anyone?!!
She did not. Jane's voice is really distinct. Woody figured it out but Arlene always has to be the winner. Jane, slight flintiness, with a breath and inhale almost like a hiccup. Our girl Janey never sounded like anyone else. Bit of a chip off the ol' block.
For those are telling the people to get over it, you have to remember the time, the country was very divided over the war. A lot of men that served see Jane Fonda as a traitor. She went to north Vietnam for propaganda purposes. If she didn’t agree with the word, that is fine, stay home and protest until you are blue in the. Face. But don’t take it to the level she did. That was a slap in the face of every soldier that fought.
The very same people who rail against Jane support a 5 time draft dodger who incited an attack on the nation's Capitol. What is a slap for every soldier who fought is a 5 time draft dodger calling those who died or captured, suckers and losers.
Once upon a time yes, certain theatre productions could be considered "illegitimate" or illegal; for example in Britain theatre companies had to be granted permission (called a patent) in order to perform, as per the 1737 British Licensing Act. Over the centuries, the term morphed into a synonym for serious plays -- the "theatah" -- as opposed to musicals or comedies. In the 21st century, it''s not a commonly used phrase, at least not outside theatrical circles.
+Joe Postove I wonder why she is wearing her coat on stage? Looks very odd to say the least. No different than if Bennett or John had walked on stage wearing an overcoat.
When I saw her walk out, I thought maybe she'd come directly from her performance in "The Apple Tree" and just threw on a robe over the theater costume because she didn't have enough time to change.😂
Woody Allen in 1966 entered and signed in by signing in as "Cary Grant." No wonder Woody got mail; some in the TV audience were probably disappointed. Jane Fonda is the only person I know on WML who 1) signed in as "Woody Allen" or 2) who signed in with the name of a current panelist.
There were others who had signed in under different names. Woody was not the first. I remember Bob Hope signing in as "Bing Crosby." Woody may have remembered that. I read once that he developed his coward shtick from watching Bob Hope.
I still don't understand why it's offensive to ask Miss or Mrs. Or why women are offended when people express appreciation for their good looks. Yes, I understand we are more than our physical appearance.
@Sally Brookner Mr. Daly isn't inquiring about anyone's marital status. He's asking how the women wish to be addressed. In a genteel society that has largely been paved over, that's how it used to be.
It’s true that “nej” is Swedish, but she actually pronounces it the Danish/Norwegian way. It’s pronounced like ”nay” in Swedish. She also says “ja” in the German way 🙂
Bennett knew that the lady was from Phoenix, Arizona. Sen. Goldwater was the most famous person or thing associated with Phoenix at the time. But the way that Bennett asked the question, he narrowed it down to Goldwater or politics in general. If he got a "no" with the follow up on Goldwater, he still would have done a service to the rest of the panel by narrowing it down to politics other than Goldwater. In addition to knowing Mrs. Reinhold's location, he could see that she was a older, dignified and well-spoken person. She reminded me a little of another Sen. Margaret Chase Smith of Maine, the WML Mystery Guest on 6/14/53. ruclips.net/video/ByfAMNmROek/видео.html Not all of Bennett;s hunches work out. This time it did.
The way it was explained to me when I was very young was that people in the public eye - actors and such - can look quite young as compared to say factory workers or just plane "folks", is because they don't have to worry about money. This rings especially true for athletes as well as politicians and actors in todays world where to buy a house its out of the question for most young folks. If you never had to worry about money, yea - I can say for me anyways that money woes are paramount in todays world unfortunately...!
Look how young and gorgeous she was.. and today she is still hotter than a firecracker at 85... I just hate the panels way of questioning.. It's always "Who's in town" just ask some reasonable questions and stop trying to cheat your way
Notice that when greeting guests, the men stand and the women stay seated. 55 years ago, and a *completely* different culture. (Not that I would want to go back there; I wouldn't.)
One of the things they never did on this show that would have been interesting is to ask how a panelist figured out who a mystery guest is or what specific line a guest worked in. In many cases involving a mystery guest, it's obvious that the mystery guest was coming to New York just for some premiere or highly publicized event, and with a few answers limiting it down, some panelist quickly figures who he/she is. But in the case of the female senior airline pilot for Barry Goldwater, I don't see at all how Bennett Cerf jumped to that correct conclusion, especially since female senior pilots were relatively unusual. Makes me wonder if he had an "inside line" on her profession.
James Feldman They did sometimes talk after the game about how the answer was arrived at, but only in exceptional cases, where an answer seemed to come out of nowhere. Having the panelists explain their lines of reasoning was a staple of To Tell the Truth, though.
What's My Line? Thanks. Like the old Columbo series created by Richard Levinson and William Link, the fun in these shows isn't "whodunnit" or figuring out "what's the line" since we already know those answers from the beginning; but rather, it's in the entertaining dialogue between the detective/panelist and the suspect/guest, as the former tries to identify the clue(s) that will solve the case. So just like we enjoy seeing Lt. Columbo's (Peter Falk's) thought processes in getting closer to the truth, for me, part of the fun in the game shows is understanding and appreciating the panelists' thought processes. In many a show, that's fully apparent through the line of questioning, but in some cases, like this segment with the female senior airline pilot, how Bennett Cerf jumped to that conclusion isn't clear at all, and it would have been nice if host John Daly had fleshed that out.
James Feldman I totally agree-- and I'm also a big Columbo fan. :) In case you're not already aware, you might want to check out my new channel for TTTT: ruclips.net/channel/UCZkBUfTQ_tmKAlUV_sQqrTQfeatured What's funny about the panelist explanations on TTTT is that their reasons for choosing a particular contestant usually had nothing at all to do with the questions they asked!
James Feldman It was well known that Goldwater lived in Phoenix, AZ and when I was younger I passed his dwelling place on a bicycle. That is how he jumped to the right conclusion I 'm sure.
Edward Gold Sorry, but the fact that she worked for Goldwater and he lived in Phoenix was established relatively early in the questioning. What was a leap, was when Bennett Cerf asked if she were involved in Goldwater's travel activities, specifically by car or airplane. And once he got a "yes" response, he asked "are you his pilot?" Even if we accept that asking the travel question would be a logical one given the others so far, he immediately jumped to the conclusion that she was Goldwater's pilot--a highly unusually choice after establishing that she was involved in Goldwater's transportation, given that female pilots were so rare, and especially given the woman's age. Perhaps Cerf guessed airline pilot first because he assumed that the people running the show deliberately chose her as a guest because her specific profession is the least likely one of the potential others connected to Goldwater's transportation.
This was Jane before Her Hanoi Jane Incident. It would have been interesting if Jane Fonda and Woody Allen did a Movie together, but I guess Jane Fonda, was Way, Way OUt of his League then.
Well not just in show business, but even my mom and sisters in their business, working anywhere - it's tough as a single mom esp. 4 daughters and grandma to take care of - it's not just in show business. I wish all these other families came forth with some of their experiences, I in several countries with children involved - of those same situations as they are in show business.
I see Jane Fonda in Elizabeth Banks somewhat, but I don't see it in Amy Adams at all. Jane Fonda just had a unique and beautiful look that was all her own, so much prettier than most people. I'd say one of her few "competitors" was Natalie Wood. Also, Jane looks just like a beautiful, feminine, female version of her Dad. I know that sounds weird in today's world, but I've thought so since her '9 to 5' movie way back then.
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Jane Fonda was 30 here - imagine that!! And she’s still with us at 85/86
29... Her birthday is near the end of December, and this was at the beginning of January.
Arlene is stunning here. She did have work done on her face over the years and the results were very good. She was in good hands IMO. She looks younger than ever here.
I think the key factor is she was a less is more girl. She didn't go overboard and kept it classy she didn't chase away her age.... She gracefully helped gravity along. I adore still. Her beauty transcends.
Dorothy we miss you.
Yes...😔
Dorothy would have got that one!!
Show lost something when she was gone from the show..
Amen to all the above.
The video and audio quality is amazing in this video !
I watched this show religiously while growing up. I don't think many people appreciate how hilarious Arlene Francis can be!
Also, Arlene always find out who is the guest.
Watching these programmes, some things seem so non-politically correct to us nowadays, like the audience whistling when an attractive guest comes in and on one episode the host disparaged one male guest due to his receding hairline, also asking the women: "are you a Mrs or a Miss?" and so on, yet at the same time there is this wonderful woman in her sixties who pilots a politician around. She was amazing. It is nice to see the often erudite and articulate panel members, though. No shouting or buzzers or bright lights. Very sophisticated vibes on this show. I had never watched it before I found it here last week and now I am binge-watching. It has also been educational as not being American I have had to look up people like Barry Goldwater, Dorothy Kilgallen and Arlene Francis to name a few.
The reason the "Mrs. or Miss" question was asked was so that the panel could address the female contestants properly.
It was all back in the day when you wouldn't call someone by their first name if you didn't know them well. Some of the old fashioned ideas we see in this program are shocking to my modern mind, but some of it is actually quite pleasing - in a lot of ways we were more polite back then, but being more relaxed now could be a good thing too.
@Caroline Wiggins:
The manners were better then; the politeness, consideration, and respect for everyone, including families watching, was admirable. Puts political "correctness" to shame! Its also educational, as you said, and it's fun to watch stars playing themselves, such ad Paul Newman, Natalie Wood, and Ronald Reagan. It's great to finally see the stars whom you heard so much about, but never saw, because you we're born just when the show ended, or later!
@@princeharming8963 Now they ask if they're a "he" or a "she" or a "they" or a "ze" or non-binery.
We remember what we gained: more acceptance for a lot of ideas,more acceptable indifference towards matters of "faith" & "belief",a wider range of socially acceptable behavior,etc. but we are quick to forget what we have lost. Imo,this show is far more pleasant than the current gatherings we have inspite of all the "progress" we have made.
Arlene Francis was a perfect 10 well into her 50s on my scorecard.
Actually she was 60 years old.
Totally agree. She's a beauty inside and out
@Jack Xerox Still a higher ceiling than the IQ of a man...though yours in is the single digits apparently.
The Thimble maker was a real hoot. One of the best contestants!
+Charles Henry She had the panel wrapped around her little finger!
She is one of my favorite contestants. The way the questions were going, I was expecting someone to ask if she makes condoms. Then I remembered that in those days, no way would that have been allowed. This show was FUN!!
Time when Woody Allen was alligned to TV conventions!😂
I think ppl forget how much of a stunning young beauty Jane was.
And they also forget that she was a communist sympathizer and should have been arrested for giving aid and comfort to the enemy when she returned to this country from N. Vietnam.
@@WConn100
Amen. My uncle was s POW while that was going on.
@@WConn100 Cry some more, snowflake.
And what a stunning traitor she turned out to be.
@@TheBatugan77 I had an uncle whom I loved dearly (who fought in WWII). So, out of respect for YOUR uncle (and how the Vietnam vets were so horribly treated by so many), I will never watch the part of any What's My Line where Jane Fonda appears.
Who knew Woody Allen did something as straight up as this show!!
Here's another credit that will blow your mind --- Woody Allen was an occasional contributor to Allen Funt's CANDID CAMERA in the 1960s.
Woody was a very visible comedian, comedy writer, and TV guest until he became a dedicated driven filmmaker following his earlier successes on the big screen. He wasn't particularly reclusive after he became a famous director (and movie star) - I think he had even begun his weekly live appearances playing jazz clarinet with a large ensemble in a NYC club, which he may possibly still be doing to this day in 2023 as I write this.
@@kikovazquez7277 i hope he still is
@@FlockOfHawks It wasn't terribly long ago that I read that he was still appearing and playing with his New Orleans style jazz band at the Carlyle Hotel every Monday night. That was around 2020, enough time for things to go steeply downhill for a man his age. I also hope he's still doing it.
Woody Allen could ad lib so well!
Yep, he was always a great wit.
Phyllis was a pretty good panelists. She had the combo of being intelligent and thoughtful with her questions and being fun too.
Much like Arlene but Arlene has a sharper quick wit.
She's so annoying and blunt and loud. I have tried to find an appeal with her but she grates on my nerves.
Phylis was quite pretty, too.
You're kidding? I think she's thick as two short planks.
@@Merrida100 I agree but she has a great laugh
I wonder who would have the nerve to play Scrabble with Bennett
My mom, she was good. Read all the time.
Judy Holliday. Her highest score was 925.
Boy, Cerf was smart. Look at how he guessed that woman was Barry Goldwater’s pilot.
I think Bennett already knew. He was being sly and cagey.
Jane still PRETTY in 2020
Checking in for 2021! Jane still has it! 🙌
The appropriate question is "Did you ever have your picture taken with an enemy anti-aircraft gun?"
Not bad for a communist traitor to the US.
@@SOffenbachFrom an obvious hypocrite who salutes a real traitor and insurrectionist.
@@michaelcap9550 Grow up.
at c 20:00 >> I am working from memory here, so those who own Gil Fate's book correct me if I remembered this wrong. Fates recorded this as Arlene? puzzling over "she's beautiful and married to a Frenchman" and Woody chiming up, "It's Mrs. DeGaulle" in reference to the first lady of France from 1959-1970. As we see, it is Woody who puzzled over the "beautiful and married to a Frenchman" and Arlene who had the spontaneous witticism. Of course in the late 70s double checking the WML archive was hard to do, not like today with the "What's My Line?" RUclips Channel at the ready with search feature.
soulierinvestments
Your memory of Fates's words is better than his memory of the show! From page 101 of "What's My Line? TV's Most Famous Panel Show" by Gil Fates:
"Although by the rules conferences were legal only if permission was granted by Obermeister Daly, the panel members occasionally did sneak in some fast asides to each other. On one such occasion Jane Fonda was the Mystery Guest and Arlene was recapping out loud.
'She's beautiful and married to a Frenchman," puzzled Arlene. Woody Allen leaned over to her.
'It's Mrs. DeGaulle,' he said."
The memory is a fickle creature. Hence why we need fact checkers and editors.
soulierinvestments
... and videotape.
soulierinvestments Your memory beats mine!
Actually Arlene said something else first in response to Woody that makes it even funnier. She said, "You think that's impossible?" Indeed a fair question to ask, even in jest. Then there was a pause before Arlene thought of her next line: "Don't be silly. It's Mrs. De Gaulle."
And yes, it's a lot easier when you can go to the video replay.
But I am gonna go into the career of Jane Fonda. At this time, she was married to French filmmaker Roger Vadim, and starred in his French films, at a time when so many English-speaking stars, American or British, starred in films made all over Europe.
Arlene; "I make every stitch I wear"
Her statement put Bennett in stitches at least.
What a fantastic guess by Mr. Bennett Cerf on the pilot lady.
Guess, my arse! Too obvious a rig.
@@LANCSKID Why do stupid people always think smart people cheat?
@@kentetalman9008 oh, sorry … I forgot that you are the President of the Bennett Cerf Fan club. If you are unable to realise that this show is rigged then … stupid?
Jane went through a number of distinct phases. Here she is before she starred in some sort of science fiction called "Barberella." It did not look either feminist or fundamentalist. At this point, Jane was in her sex kitten stage. In a few years Fonda and Vadim parted ways; she evolved into her intense dramatic actress-political activist stage.
Evolved into a truly wonderful actress. Two time Academy Award winner! And a real stunner. 😍
Which has yet to end.
this EXPRESSED respect for every other person addressing each other in the show and elsewhere IS LONG GONE in 21ST century and guess what: children will grow up without respect for people around them.the sad part is we and they that are kids nowadays will die ....... it seems now that wild animals have more respect for other animals around them than people do that's what i call the evolution of human civilization backwards
Some of these epis are actually extremely good with good panelists. I was always of the impression the series was really lost without Dorothy Kilgallen. In general have to say it really was. Think the great one without her are here and there. Not there on a steady basis.
This may be the best episode so far after Dorothy's death. Many people made funny comments, including two of the funniest Arlene ever said.
9:08 to 9:35 SNOOZE!
John's forced laughter was the best part. 😆
I am reading "The reminiscences of Bennett Serf" He was right there with every famous publisher for the last 100 years. Fascinating story. Goldwater's pilot looks like Sandra Day O'Connor to me. I miss Dorothy....
liberty Ann ...p/s, it’s ‘Cerf’...:)
Not that Bennet was smarter than the rest of the panel, it was the fact that he had inside information unbeknownst to most.
My mother's thimbles were always made of steel or a similar material. Stiff not supple. Are their supple ones?
55 yrs later, Jane Fonda doesn't look all that different.
Many facelifts
😆You're joking, right?
@@ChrisHansonCanada These 2years since have made a big difference, mostly from effects of even more plastic surgery.
Arlene Francis is gorgeous.
When they said: "Is it made of a material which is supple rather than stiff?" "Oh, I should say so." I was a bit nonplussed. Are thimbles not made of metal in the US then? And then when they got to the end, I understood.
As John said, she revolutionized thimbles for the first time in 2000 years by making them out of plastic. Not knowing that at the time of the game, her answer did seem wrong.
My God she was beautiful!
+Dave Fuller and how!
And still is.
Indeed!
pretty ...traitors look pretty...la chatte
In my opinion she was not beautiful. She was a little pretty, not at all a stunner, merrily average. She was no great beauty, but she had very nice thick blond hair and a great body. She also had finesse in her movements and of course she was a famous actor's daughter. She prob. also had a lot of self-confidence which helped make her stand out.
Very good one! With powerful women ✨
Jane Fonda and Woody Allen. Two entertainers in their respective pre-controversy days.
It would have been an interesting comedy if anyone -- Allen included -- had thought to cast them as the stars.
Asking the first guest whether she was Barry Goldwater's psychiatrist was a clue about Woody Allen's politics.
@@Lafayette320 Probably the most political question any panelist asked in WML history, including revealing his views. It wasn't until "Anne Hall" that he told the joke about wanting to do to his girlfriend was Eisenhower was doing to the country. I suspect John was not happy to hear it. I wonder if Woody was invited back another time before the show ended later that year. Notice also that when Woody asked that question, they showed not the guest but Phyllis Newman, although by the time they did show her, she was smiling.
I thought Allen acted like a complete jerk.
@@Theyralltakenfu he wasn't acting !
She was Against The War..Millions of Young adults her age were against it..She had the Guts to go against the Military Industrial War Machine. We needed More to stand Up like Her not less.. Bravo I Say...Bravo..
Edited -- Goldwater was in between his two Senate careers -- 1953 - 1965 and 1969 - 1987. (Goldwater did not seek Senate reelection in 1964 when he ran for president. Johnson was elected vice president and senator both in 1960. All bases covered.) Allen's psychiatrist question is hilarious, though, in fairness, the person who won in 1964 probably needed one more.
soulierinvestments
I think you meant "ran for president as did Johnson in *1964*," didn't you?
adding in 1964 will be good. I think I'll do it.
soulierinvestments
Aha! Thanks to your careful editing and clarifications, I now understand better about Johnson, too.
Unlike Goldwater, John Kerry did run for Senate re-election as well as the presidency in 2004 - He lost the presidential race, but was re-elected to the Senate, where he continued to serve.
@@loopshackr Not all states permit a candidate to appear on the same ballot in the same year for two different offices. It is more common now than before. It was not clear JFK/LBJ would win (it still isn't clear they actually won) when his Senate term was expiring at the same time (1960). Texas passed what is known as "the LBJ law" to allow him to appear on ballots in TX as both the candidate for the Senate and the candidate for VP. Arizona law in 1964 did not permit Goldwater to run for Senate and President. In the past, some senators have run for President in years when their 6 year terms would not expire but declined to run when they would have to give up their Senate seat to run for President. Goldwater ran for the other Senate seat from AZ when he returned to the Senate in 1968 -- he did not get reelected to his original seat.
I like how she goes “yeah man, yeah...”
Phyllis Newman was an attractive lady. Arlene Francis was also very attractive and a great panel member.
Jane was really beautiful. I like the hair.
Jane looks like Elizabeth Banks. Such a beautiful face. Just natural beauty
but a bitch and a traitor
Brian Hammer what the- get a life sir. why are you on this video if you hate her so much. get off of here . we don’t want you here
@@laurenhenderson9574 1) I don't take orders from you, you ass; 2) you don't speak for anyone but yourself, you ass
@@brianhammer5107 I thought traitors are people who sacrifice American lives in illegal and secret wars.
@@johndodge8999 add giving aid and comfort to the enemy to that definition, jackass
Jane looks so gorgeous! My 2 favorite films she made were "" Walk On The Wild Side" with Barbara Stanwyck and "" The Dollmaker "" 1984 which is a must see!!❤
Thimbles could be made out of any of those materials mentioned. I'm sure they were made out of leather at some time, and plastic is a pretty recent invention. People have been sewing for centuries.
Holy moly, Jane Fonda was stunning!
Jane appeared on WML in the sixties four times. What an evolution that was. In 1964, she made a pistol firing motion with her hand at Bennett when he zeroed in on her. This time she stuck out her tongue at Bennett, cause the question is hard to answer. Roger Vadim, the French director, was her husband at the time.
His real name was Roger Vadim Plemiannikov. He was Russian by ancestry, but French by birth and by culture. His father was a White Russian diplomat, fleeing the Bolsheviks.
Even if you're not a fan of her politics, it is impossible not to be captivated by Jane Fonda's sex appeal in "Barbarella".
She did do a classy thing at the 1972 Oscars when she won for "Klute" (at the height of her anti-war period).
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@gcjerryusc Oscars? You are so right.
Where's Gary Cooper when you need him (I'll settle for Alan Ladd)?
I love Jane Fonda. My top three favorites of her films in order of preference are Sunday in New York, Any Wednesday and Barefoot in the Park. Interestingly enough, they all take place in Manhattan.
My favorite of hers is "Nine to Five", but she's certainly been in quite an impressive number of excellent films in her career.
Barbarella was her best and shining moment ! That was the first film I saw her in and was always the best !!
She made some terrific ones after that including Klute in 1971. Won Academy Award Oscar. Loved "Barefoot in the Park" and she looked beautiful in it.
Fonda and Redford, were a delicious couple in Barefoot In The Park. And enjoyed her with Rod Taylor, in Sunday In New York. Romantic pictures when New York was certainly more glamorous and Romantic then today. Breakfast At Tiffany's anyone?!!
Klute, Coming Home...and yes she has a very nice hair ♥
Jane really disguised her voice well here.
She did not. Jane's voice is really distinct. Woody figured it out but Arlene always has to be the winner.
Jane, slight flintiness, with a breath and inhale almost like a hiccup. Our girl Janey never sounded like anyone else. Bit of a chip off the ol' block.
Bennett Serf's first questions are always so smart.
She really didn't disguise her voice too well. I say that about every celeb. lol
Leave it to Woody to ask the first contestant about Goldwater's "psychiatrist"! Where's your psychiatrist now!
Look at that Chanel suit she was rocking, fierce
I really like Phyllis here: good thinking, patience with the contestant who doesn't understand the purpose of questions designed to get a yes.
I have had a thing for ever since I saw her in Barbarella. There is something about those eyes. She is beautiful.
YES !!
I think Jane Fonda has an uncanny resemblance to her father Henry Fonda.
Jane was beautiful
For those are telling the people to get over it, you have to remember the time, the country was very divided over the war. A lot of men that served see Jane Fonda as a traitor. She went to north Vietnam for propaganda purposes. If she didn’t agree with the word, that is fine, stay home and protest until you are blue in the. Face. But don’t take it to the level she did. That was a slap in the face of every soldier that fought.
These critics of Jane are delusional brain dead morons who support a 5 time draft dodger backed by Putin.
The very same people who rail against Jane support a 5 time draft dodger who incited an attack on the nation's Capitol.
What is a slap for every soldier who fought is a 5 time draft dodger calling those who died or captured, suckers and losers.
What the hell is this "legitimate theater". I never realized a theater could be illegitimate.
Once upon a time yes, certain theatre productions could be considered "illegitimate" or illegal; for example in Britain theatre companies had to be granted permission (called a patent) in order to perform, as per the 1737 British Licensing Act. Over the centuries, the term morphed into a synonym for serious plays -- the "theatah" -- as opposed to musicals or comedies.
In the 21st century, it''s not a commonly used phrase, at least not outside theatrical circles.
I love these older show I recognize the stars.
Oh my gosh is she beautiful.
Yes, and Jane Fonda was looking well too..
From a distance Phyllis' coat looked like a bathrobe.
+Joe Postove I wonder why she is wearing her coat on stage? Looks very odd to say the least. No different than if Bennett or John had walked on stage wearing an overcoat.
Ye and Arlene's outfit a bit like nightgown. Maybe the women went for a bedroom kinda theme haha
@@Roxjetlagged Whenever I see Arlene I think of a bedroom.
I am really a good boy!
@@MrJoeybabe25 😂
When I saw her walk out, I thought maybe she'd come directly from her performance in "The Apple Tree" and just threw on a robe over the theater costume because she didn't have enough time to change.😂
Daly volunteered not equal. Clue.
Fonda was a true beauty, naturally.
Think her dad probably gave her an inferiority complex but loved her in the movie Cat Ballou when Lee Marvin won the best actor Oscar !!!
Marvin deserved it. Cat Balou is not seen much these days, but Marvin's performance is still remembered decades after viewing it in a theater.
I am in my sixties too, but I look much younger than her.
When Jane Fonda was saying "Ni" for "No"....I think she was trying to say it in German,which is 'nein', but didn't quite get it right.
It's Danish
Josh Rothberger : Maybe.
But Danish for "No" is pronounced "Ney"
She was saying,"Nigh"
Jane Fonda was married to Roger Vadim from 1965-1973, and was then married to Political activist Tom Hayden.
the thimble lady is my favorite
Woody Allen in 1966 entered and signed in by signing in as "Cary Grant." No wonder Woody got mail; some in the TV audience were probably disappointed. Jane Fonda is the only person I know on WML who 1) signed in as "Woody Allen" or 2) who signed in with the name of a current panelist.
soulierinvestments Stay tuned for Allen signing in as "John Dillinger" in his third Mystery Guest appearance, and his final WML appearance ever.
There were others who had signed in under different names. Woody was not the first. I remember Bob Hope signing in as "Bing Crosby." Woody may have remembered that. I read once that he developed his coward shtick from watching Bob Hope.
I knew a lady who made thimbles. She was all thumbs,
I knew a man who had 5...
But his pants fit like a glove!
You related to Bennett ?
Just think they went from only knowing she performed a service to Barry Goldwaters pilot that fast!
Bennett cheated
I,m falling in love with Phyllis in this episode! She might have been a fun person to go out with
If you were deaf, maybe. Her voice is grating and irritating, like nails on a chalkboard. Ewwww
Mr. Bennett Cerf figured out the pilot for Mr. Goldwater with ease.
Rigged.
Such a babe.
Phyllis newman looks and sounds like Marrisa Tomei
I still don't understand why it's offensive to ask Miss or Mrs. Or why women are offended when people express appreciation for their good looks. Yes, I understand we are more than our physical appearance.
It’s not offensive, people in this day and age will find ANYTHING to take offense to.
@Sally Brookner
Who says there has to be an equivalent?
@Sally Brookner
Mr. Daly isn't inquiring about anyone's marital status. He's asking how the women wish to be addressed. In a genteel society that has largely been paved over, that's how it used to be.
Who could forget that?!
I think Woody liked Jane and was a little flattered.
What's there not to like ?
He had a thing for Diane Keaton as well, as did I. La di da … La di da.
Jane says "da" and "nej" and John Daly says it was Russian, "Da" is, but "nej" isn't; it's Swedish and she pronounces it that way.
It’s true that “nej” is Swedish, but she actually pronounces it the Danish/Norwegian way. It’s pronounced like ”nay” in Swedish. She also says “ja” in the German way 🙂
The first lady gets a lot of applause and the first thing that comes to Bennetts mind is Barry Goldwater?
Riiiiight.
Bennett knew that the lady was from Phoenix, Arizona. Sen. Goldwater was the most famous person or thing associated with Phoenix at the time. But the way that Bennett asked the question, he narrowed it down to Goldwater or politics in general. If he got a "no" with the follow up on Goldwater, he still would have done a service to the rest of the panel by narrowing it down to politics other than Goldwater.
In addition to knowing Mrs. Reinhold's location, he could see that she was a older, dignified and well-spoken person. She reminded me a little of another Sen. Margaret Chase Smith of Maine, the WML Mystery Guest on 6/14/53.
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Not all of Bennett;s hunches work out. This time it did.
BS. The most rigged show on TV. Cornyshite Productions Inc.
@@LANCSKID Then do us all a favor and don't watch. Troll.
@@kentetalman9008 Put your handbag down, Tetchy.
Anyone notice how the woman displayed the thimble she was wearing? One would think the censors would have cut that.
And as the beautiful JFonda talked as a mystery guest, Elvis Aron Presley was celebrating his 32 birthday with a fried peanut butter banana sandwich.
...@ 13:53, ‘it’ is DEFINITELY NOT ‘made of a material that is “supple”..’..;)!!
it was plastic -- revolutionary as John said -- so surprisingly it was indeed supple
It was never supple..
The way it was explained to me when I was very young was that people in the public eye - actors and such - can look quite young as compared to say factory workers or just plane "folks", is because they don't have to worry about money. This rings especially true for athletes as well as politicians and actors in todays world where to buy a house its out of the question for most young folks. If you never had to worry about money, yea - I can say for me anyways that money woes are paramount in todays world unfortunately...!
Jane looks like the twin of her Dad
Look how young and gorgeous she was.. and today she is still hotter than a firecracker at 85... I just hate the panels way of questioning.. It's always "Who's in town" just ask some reasonable questions and stop trying to cheat your way
Notice that when greeting guests, the men stand and the women stay seated. 55 years ago, and a *completely* different culture. (Not that I would want to go back there; I wouldn't.)
wow the show was really not the same without dorothy kilgallen
They said a thimble is supple, not stiff? 🤔
I'm sorry but Fonda lost me when she was photographed sitting on a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft weapon during the Vietnamese war.
Yet you are not sorry you support a 5 time draft dodger who is Putin's greatest weapon of mass destruction.
One of the things they never did on this show that would have been interesting is to ask how a panelist figured out who a mystery guest is or what specific line a guest worked in. In many cases involving a mystery guest, it's obvious that the mystery guest was coming to New York just for some premiere or highly publicized event, and with a few answers limiting it down, some panelist quickly figures who he/she is. But in the case of the female senior airline pilot for Barry Goldwater, I don't see at all how Bennett Cerf jumped to that correct conclusion, especially since female senior pilots were relatively unusual. Makes me wonder if he had an "inside line" on her profession.
James Feldman They did sometimes talk after the game about how the answer was arrived at, but only in exceptional cases, where an answer seemed to come out of nowhere. Having the panelists explain their lines of reasoning was a staple of To Tell the Truth, though.
What's My Line? Thanks. Like the old Columbo series created by Richard Levinson and William Link, the fun in these shows isn't "whodunnit" or figuring out "what's the line" since we already know those answers from the beginning; but rather, it's in the entertaining dialogue between the detective/panelist and the suspect/guest, as the former tries to identify the clue(s) that will solve the case. So just like we enjoy seeing Lt. Columbo's (Peter Falk's) thought processes in getting closer to the truth, for me, part of the fun in the game shows is understanding and appreciating the panelists' thought processes. In many a show, that's fully apparent through the line of questioning, but in some cases, like this segment with the female senior airline pilot, how Bennett Cerf jumped to that conclusion isn't clear at all, and it would have been nice if host John Daly had fleshed that out.
James Feldman I totally agree-- and I'm also a big Columbo fan. :) In case you're not already aware, you might want to check out my new channel for TTTT:
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What's funny about the panelist explanations on TTTT is that their reasons for choosing a particular contestant usually had nothing at all to do with the questions they asked!
James Feldman It was well known that Goldwater lived in Phoenix, AZ and when I was younger I passed his dwelling place on a bicycle. That is how he jumped to the right conclusion I 'm sure.
Edward Gold Sorry, but the fact that she worked for Goldwater and he lived in Phoenix was established relatively early in the questioning. What was a leap, was when Bennett Cerf asked if she were involved in Goldwater's travel activities, specifically by car or airplane. And once he got a "yes" response, he asked "are you his pilot?" Even if we accept that asking the travel question would be a logical one given the others so far, he immediately jumped to the conclusion that she was Goldwater's pilot--a highly unusually choice after establishing that she was involved in Goldwater's transportation, given that female pilots were so rare, and especially given the woman's age. Perhaps Cerf guessed airline pilot first because he assumed that the people running the show deliberately chose her as a guest because her specific profession is the least likely one of the potential others connected to Goldwater's transportation.
Ruth Reinhold is two years older here than Julia Louis Dreyfus is now. The difference is remarkable.
Jane is a Doll.
15:42 It's amazing how many people don't know the meaning of the word "or".
wow
This just stuck me during the panel introduction. There's only one slot in the industry: Phyllis Newman or Marlo Thomas? 😁
Kinda look a likes
This was Jane before Her Hanoi Jane Incident. It would have been interesting if Jane Fonda and Woody Allen did a Movie together, but I guess Jane Fonda, was Way, Way OUt of his League then.
Well not just in show business, but even my mom and sisters in their business, working anywhere - it's tough as a single mom esp. 4 daughters and grandma to take care of - it's not just in show business. I wish all these other families came forth with some of their experiences, I in several countries with children involved - of those same situations as they are in show business.
If you are using a thimble and either standing or sitting I think it would tend to be below the waist. Perhaps not.
What do they win?
$50
amy adams looks like a young jane fonda
Yes!!!
totally
I would say Elizabeth Banks looks like young Jane Fonda
I see Jane Fonda in Elizabeth Banks somewhat, but I don't see it in Amy Adams at all. Jane Fonda just had a unique and beautiful look that was all her own, so much prettier than most people. I'd say one of her few "competitors" was Natalie Wood. Also, Jane looks just like a beautiful, feminine, female version of her Dad. I know that sounds weird in today's world, but I've thought so since her '9 to 5' movie way back then.
Jane - incomparably radiant then and now. Woody: totally gaga over her.
Agree!
Jane Fonda. Stunning :-)
IN 'BARBARELLA' MOVIE
REALLY SHOWCASED HER BEAUTY!