A company in Kernersville NC repairs these from scratch and also sells a cable to locate your CPC on your floor or seat for easy removal when you leave your truck. The company is ERD. Look it up. They have a great turn around and guarantee on the repair.
Sad state the parts supply chain is in with back orders that can exceed on year on some parts. It doesn’t help that dealers have altered inventory levels so when national part searches are done a dealer may have parts in stock that won’t show up in inventory. I don’t see any improvements in the near future!
To be honest I love watching your videos you make a simple at the moment I enroll Lincoln tech for diesel TECH but i learn a lot from your videos you break it down make it simple keep up the great work 100.
A news story just broke. July 21, 2021. Approximately 150 Freightliner trucks were broken into and have had their CPC4 module stolen in California. Surprise surprise, a crapload of these modules are showing up for on eBay and other online forums. They are going for 5k to 20k.
Very nice video and suggest! There is another tip to stop stealing, people PLS Repair them do not look to buy old used or stolen device. YES we can repair them 99.9% success rite. MMFiX Arlington Heights ILLINOIS. thank you Pedro for the Tip !
I took zip tie out put cable tie in, fabricating a block wall in case they get past front panel that has keyed tamper proof locking bolts and air supply lock so truck won’t move unless it’s dragged onto a flatbed what a beautiful world we live in
The thieves know they are there. My customer had his stolen while he was at a Home Depot. In the store less than 1 hour. Came back and CPC was stolen. Total price was over easily over $5,000. $2,000 for the CPC $1,200-1500 for the core Plus programming (varies at dealership) Plus the harness Plus labor (to assemble harness) and then the down time. Just have to be safe out there. Takes thieves less than 5 minutes to steal the CPC.
I live in Newark, NJ and CPC4 vandalism is a serious problem in NJ, NY area right now. Dear fellow truckers do yourself a favor remove it from your truck and take it with you just like the man says it here or else you’ll be spending more than $6k to replace it on your truck. Even if you going for a couple hours.
I agree 100%, I have many customers that leave just one screw in just to hold the dash in place and remove the CPC every time they leave the truck. It literally takes minutes to get it and out.
Thank you for this video ..Question ,ones I remove the CPC for safety can I put it back next morning and the truck will turn on normal ?or ones I put it back they need to reprogrammed?
@@CurbHopper111 I have the wifi system from falconeye, you can view the cameras anywhere so long as you have a hotspot inside the truck. It’s always recording to a hard drive. 1080p cameras. Really good system. Pricey but good
We have been repairing cpc modules for 5 months now and having extremely good turnout with the repair. If you can’t wait a year to get back on the road, get in touch with me and I will get you on the road in weeks.
Idk if u ever been to jail but in jail when ever u see a screw like holding up a phone or screws holding window fixtures u will see alll the screws in jail use special key to to unscrew so inmates won’t try to pry it out
@@CarlosDieselElectric so I just removed it and when I plugged it back in the orange engine light stays on, how do I remove that?? And a code is popping up now for cruise: SPN 639
Good question, Freightliner sells a kit but the irony is they don’t include the instructions which completely defeats the purpose. I use a sister truck or similar and follow the numbers and pins.
@CarlosDieselElectric I appreciate the response! I recently had a request from a penske shop that was hit for 15 cpc's I provided all the schematics I could but a sister truck is what I was thinking as well. Thank you sir will check out more videos.
I just saw the video come up from Asian Mai, I have to check it out. It’s a shame. I know the local Freightliner (Velocity) wants owners to report it stolen so they can input it as stolen so if a person comes in with the stolen CPC to be reprogrammed to their VIN. It will be denied. It’s a small step, but at least it’s in the right direction.
Sorry to hear that. My customer just had his stolen while he was at Home Depot. Was inside for 1 hour. Came back and it was gone. Now we are trying to repair the harness. Lucky for him the CPC4 is now becoming more available at the dealership
It seems as though just freightliners have this problem, are these CPC units only a freightliner part? Also it sounds like this is a problem only in Cali.
Certainly a Freightliner problem, not sure about California but that could be true. Since California does have clean air requirements. The CPC4 can be found in the 2014-2016/2017 Cascadia trucks.
@@CarlosDieselElectric It definitely sounds like its a California thing. I live on the opposite side of the country in Miami and have not heard anything about people breaking into freightliners and stealing those from them out here.
All trucks have them, you can remove the dash panel or cover and you should be able to seem it. Cascadia are the main target because so many thieves know about them and the location.
@@CarlosDieselElectric can you tell me where I’m should be I’m not seeing it I have this going on 2013 freightliner coronado I have codes that basically say no communication between the ecm an other modules spn639 fmi7 an spn625 fmi14 anything will help thank you
Will the cpc alwsy be located there? I’m asking because my truck got broken in and they stripped the dash, the fuse box and the bottom part. I don’t think they found it because I was able to turn on the truck and I been driving it for the last two days. Mayb the previous owner hid it somewhere else. I’ve just had my truck for only 6 months now.
@@adamhearts9195 the problem is the CPC4 is on a national back order and taking 8-12 months to get. So people are stealing them to sell them on sites like eBay for some serious money. From I have heard, they are selling them for $5K on up.
@@CarlosDieselElectric I meant the location, or are all cpcs located right there and you have to move it yourself? Or did freightliner move it after a certain year of production I just opened up my panel and my cpc/cpc4 isn't located in the traditional spot in the panel to the right... Not sure if the owner had it moved or if it was freightliner figuring their crap out, I peeked around the panel area and didn't see anything obvious that looked like it. Just a ton of words, no harnesses though or the black box
@@adamhearts9195 now I understand, the CPC is located behind the panel or dash just to the right on almost all Cascadia trucks. They did however, change the location on 2017/2018 trucks to a completely different location. So if you don’t see it that is a good thing. You can always call your local Freightliner to verify where it is located.
If the CPC is used then it is already programmed to the truck it came from. It should be plug and play but May require programming to match your VIN. If the CPC is new, then it definitely needs to be programmed or flashed to your VIN.
@@albertcruz3232 shut off switch only no need to disconnect battery I do it every day and no codes pop up something the little motor light pops up but you turn truck if then on and it goes away
Let say if I remove my cpc4 and take it home when I come back to go to work do we need to program the cpc4 after we connect or it still gonna work since it been program to my truck vin ?
I wonder how hard it would be to replicate the cpc4 module & have it made in china or somewhere else. I suppose it would have to do with how technical it is. But if something similar for another vehicle or even something with a basic computer motherboard from say a car or nintendo switch or cell phone could be programmed with the cpc4 basics couldn't this be feasible? Wouldn't have to look the same just have same functionality & sell for like $1k-$2k each. Would/could FTL sue? Especially since thier manufacturing capacity is driving people out of business? Seems like they're the ones who should be sued. They may just choose to look the other way. Hell FTL dealers may just go for this option.
They just got mine f'n bastards! While scrolling your video it looks like yours has the same wiring placement as mine. Mine is a 2015 automatic. Can you please show me the color codes and placement in each harness please
@@samsam-fk4hm I just went off a truck in a similar year. My customer brought me the connections from a junk truck that was wrecked. They cut the harness plugs and I went off the numbers on each wire. Very tedious work. But that might be your only option other than the dealer. Sorry to hear this happened to you.
Yeah, that's exactly what I did, but I have 4 wires that do not match up number wise. I was lucky enough to have a picture of my old one so I have most of the wire in the right place (hopefully), but I have a warning light on for "2-channel accelerator pedal signal 2 missing". The picture I have doesn't show where the solid white and solid black go so I'm guessing they were spliced into another wire before the cpc and then I have 2 wires (440p1 and 440p2) that do not match any numbers on the harness. I tried to mix and match but no luck. Thank you for your response anyways.
@@CarlosDieselElectric I called freightliner and they said that they stopped using them in 2016 but my vin does have one and as of yesterday there is still a 51 week wait to get one 😳
This is stupid why not just take those 4 screws that hold the back plate and replace it with special key screw so when they come stealing their tools will be worthless
@@CarlosDieselElectric yes I've heard someone tell me they're so rare now that you can get up to 10 k shit sucks because it's right before the holidays and you never plan for that to happen 🤦🏿
A company in Kernersville NC repairs these from scratch and also sells a cable to locate your CPC on your floor or seat for easy removal when you leave your truck.
The company is ERD. Look it up. They have a great turn around and guarantee on the repair.
Bruv, they charge $850 for the wires might as well place an order for a new one and just wait
Sad state the parts supply chain is in with back orders that can exceed on year on some parts. It doesn’t help that dealers have altered inventory levels so when national part searches are done a dealer may have parts in stock that won’t show up in inventory. I don’t see any improvements in the near future!
To be honest I love watching your videos you make a simple at the moment I enroll Lincoln tech for diesel TECH but i learn a lot from your videos you break it down make it simple keep up the great work 100.
Thank you
A news story just broke. July 21, 2021. Approximately 150 Freightliner trucks were broken into and have had their CPC4 module stolen in California. Surprise surprise, a crapload of these modules are showing up for on eBay and other online forums. They are going for 5k to 20k.
Thanks for the video.. will removing the cpc constantly cause it any harm?
No, just be patient when removing the plugs. It is a plug and play
Very nice video and suggest! There is another tip to stop stealing, people PLS Repair them do not look to buy old used or stolen device. YES we can repair them 99.9% success rite. MMFiX Arlington Heights ILLINOIS. thank you Pedro for the Tip !
I took zip tie out put cable tie in, fabricating a block wall in case they get past front panel that has keyed tamper proof locking bolts and air supply lock so truck won’t move unless it’s dragged onto a flatbed what a beautiful world we live in
It is sad what we have to go through in order to protect what’s ours.
But that is some great engineering on your part
This video helps truck owners and thieves as well thank u .
The thieves know they are there. My customer had his stolen while he was at a Home Depot. In the store less than 1 hour. Came back and CPC was stolen. Total price was over easily over $5,000.
$2,000 for the CPC
$1,200-1500 for the core
Plus programming (varies at dealership)
Plus the harness
Plus labor (to assemble harness)
and then the down time.
Just have to be safe out there. Takes thieves less than 5 minutes to steal the CPC.
I live in Newark, NJ and CPC4 vandalism is a serious problem in NJ, NY area right now. Dear fellow truckers do yourself a favor remove it from your truck and take it with you just like the man says it here or else you’ll be spending more than $6k to replace it on your truck. Even if you going for a couple hours.
I agree 100%, I have many customers that leave just one screw in just to hold the dash in place and remove the CPC every time they leave the truck. It literally takes minutes to get it and out.
Keep voting blue
It's 10pm, do you know where your cpc is?
Sad but true
Seems like your running a tight ship. I'm looking for mt first tractor. Once I get it I'll send it to your shop to look it over. ✌
=Need to securely park your Freightliner truck now. $5k-$10k for this part or a year wait.
Thank you for this video ..Question ,ones I remove the CPC for safety can I put it back next morning and the truck will turn on normal ?or ones I put it back they need to reprogrammed?
Yes. You can remove and install the CPC and it will not have to be programmed.
@@CarlosDieselElectric perfect, thank you for the info , much appreciated..
I have 4 cameras outside the truck, and one inside that’s a strong deterrent to skip my truck
Get an alarm too.. with easily visble flashing l.e.d's
What cameras system do you use? And did you install yourself or have a mechanic do it?
@@CurbHopper111 I have the wifi system from falconeye, you can view the cameras anywhere so long as you have a hotspot inside the truck. It’s always recording to a hard drive. 1080p cameras. Really good system. Pricey but good
TRUCK ECM out of Tampa, FL will repair your CPC 2 day turn around. I use them all the time. Who can wait on the national b/o to unwind.
Truck ECM will also put an Apple Tag inside of your CPC. So if it gets stolen you can track it. We have had 2 stolen so far
Nothing since my cpc died in December and I'm still waiting for a new one
Sad to hear, the wait time is ridiculous from Freightliner.
We have been repairing cpc modules for 5 months now and having extremely good turnout with the repair. If you can’t wait a year to get back on the road, get in touch with me and I will get you on the road in weeks.
Mine got stolen over the weekend along with some tools, power tools, extra part I carry with.
Sorry this happened to you. Hope you can get back on the road soon.
Idk if u ever been to jail but in jail when ever u see a screw like holding up a phone or screws holding window fixtures u will see alll the screws in jail use special key to to unscrew so inmates won’t try to pry it out
Thanks for the video good advice!!!
I think someone stole mine 2 days ago but my truck turns on and it drives too
Wow I’m so thankful they left mine and didn’t steal it
I remove the cpc one day and noticed there are different odometer in the elogs? Is it happens to everyone out there ? Thanks
What happens if I unplug cpc every night… it won’t mess anything up….
It’s a plug and play. So nothing will be lost.
thats crazy u have to do that to all the trucks. jail is not enough for criminals
They won’t go to jail for this
THANKS BROTHER....
Thank you sir, does it affect the truck every time you take it out and put it back in?
It does not, just be careful with the plugs when you pull them. But as far as the memory of the CPC goes. Nothing happens to it.
@@CarlosDieselElectric so I just removed it and when I plugged it back in the orange engine light stays on, how do I remove that?? And a code is popping up now for cruise: SPN 639
Ok the light just went away had to let the truck sit for a minute
No I do it every day
this is a long shot but what are you guys doing if the connectors have been cut? are you installing connectors or the whole dash harness?
Good question, Freightliner sells a kit but the irony is they don’t include the instructions which completely defeats the purpose. I use a sister truck or similar and follow the numbers and pins.
@CarlosDieselElectric I appreciate the response! I recently had a request from a penske shop that was hit for 15 cpc's I provided all the schematics I could but a sister truck is what I was thinking as well. Thank you sir will check out more videos.
They are stolen in California in sanpedro many trucks 🚚
You think they are going for 2009 to 2013 ?
They are pretty much targeting all Cascadia especially the 2013-2017
Since there is a 1 year ETA from Freightliner.
Is there 2 boards. I had my stolen. He cut to thick wires from different directions?
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Did you hear 150 trucks in south California stolen cpcs
I just saw the video come up from Asian Mai, I have to check it out. It’s a shame. I know the local Freightliner (Velocity) wants owners to report it stolen so they can input it as stolen so if a person comes in with the stolen CPC to be reprogrammed to their VIN. It will be denied.
It’s a small step, but at least it’s in the right direction.
@@CarlosDieselElectric 👍 Thanks Pedro.
Help i just got this code on my 2017 freightliner cascadia 125. Spn 5361 fmi 18
I wish I had seen this video before someone stole the one from my truck 😪😪😪
Sorry to hear that. My customer just had his stolen while he was at Home Depot. Was inside for 1 hour. Came back and it was gone. Now we are trying to repair the harness. Lucky for him the CPC4 is now becoming more available at the dealership
Do I need to reprogram anything after disconnecting it?
No. Just unplug and reconnect.
Hi can we take the cpc out every week when we do our reset at home that's 50 times a year should there be a problem ?
Yes you can, I cut the power using the cut off switch then I remove the CPC4. You won’t have any issues. It is a plug and play.
@@CarlosDieselElectric Thank you man I appreciate it
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To install it you just but the 4 plugs on or you have to turn off the main electric power off
I recommend to cut the power first before removing and then you can turn the power ack on. Better to be safe. But it is a plug and play.
Dies it damage the programed CPC if we remove them
No, no,damage is done when you remove the CPC4. Just plug and play.
Alright cool, I started taking mine out but have been curious on weather it would mess up the program...Thank you on the reply and good videos...
hi, it's true, I don't know what will happen next, I don't know where to get them...
Used is the only to get them. This is why they are ridiculously expensive on sites like eBay.
We have a repair shop in Tennessee that repairs them. I can put you in touch with them.
It seems as though just freightliners have this problem, are these CPC units only a freightliner part? Also it sounds like this is a problem only in Cali.
Certainly a Freightliner problem, not sure about California but that could be true. Since California does have clean air requirements. The CPC4 can be found in the 2014-2016/2017 Cascadia trucks.
@@CarlosDieselElectric It definitely sounds like its a California thing. I live on the opposite side of the country in Miami and have not heard anything about people breaking into freightliners and stealing those from them out here.
@@Couldnt_let_J.Marston_die Spread the work, the CPC4 is selling for around $5K on up. Just check places like EBAY.
Better to be safe.
Someone stole mine and I live in florida dude
In illinois this week a big hit, they have stolern over 50
Does the 2013 Coronado have those as well?
All trucks have them, you can remove the dash panel or cover and you should be able to seem it. Cascadia are the main target because so many thieves know about them and the location.
@@CarlosDieselElectric can you tell me where I’m should be I’m not seeing it I have this going on 2013 freightliner coronado I have codes that basically say no communication between the ecm an other modules spn639 fmi7 an spn625 fmi14 anything will help thank you
Will the cpc alwsy be located there? I’m asking because my truck got broken in and they stripped the dash, the fuse box and the bottom part. I don’t think they found it because I was able to turn on the truck and I been driving it for the last two days. Mayb the previous owner hid it somewhere else. I’ve just had my truck for only 6 months now.
Some trucks, 2016/2017 or newer have it located elsewhere.
What year is your truck?
@@CarlosDieselElectric I'm in a 2017. Is it an issue with this year
@@adamhearts9195 the problem is the CPC4 is on a national back order and taking 8-12 months to get. So people are stealing them to sell them on sites like eBay for some serious money. From I have heard, they are selling them for $5K on up.
@@CarlosDieselElectric I meant the location, or are all cpcs located right there and you have to move it yourself? Or did freightliner move it after a certain year of production
I just opened up my panel and my cpc/cpc4 isn't located in the traditional spot in the panel to the right...
Not sure if the owner had it moved or if it was freightliner figuring their crap out, I peeked around the panel area and didn't see anything obvious that looked like it. Just a ton of words, no harnesses though or the black box
@@adamhearts9195 now I understand, the CPC is located behind the panel or dash just to the right on almost all Cascadia trucks. They did however, change the location on 2017/2018 trucks to a completely different location. So if you don’t see it that is a good thing. You can always call your local Freightliner to verify where it is located.
If I buy a new cpc or CPC4, are these things plug and play or do they need to be programmed?
If the CPC is used then it is already programmed to the truck it came from. It should be plug and play but May require programming to match your VIN.
If the CPC is new, then it definitely needs to be programmed or flashed to your VIN.
Not plug n play need programming and if you have manual may not work with cpc that came off automatic
Can you remove it daily without the truck throwing fault codes?
Yes you can.
@@CarlosDieselElectric sick! Thank you
Kill all the power before disconnecting and connecting I do it every day
@@gerardolara7495 is shut off switch fine or do you disconnect battery terminals?
@@albertcruz3232 shut off switch only no need to disconnect battery I do it every day and no codes pop up something the little motor light pops up but you turn truck if then on and it goes away
Let say if I remove my cpc4 and take it home when I come back to go to work do we need to program the cpc4 after we connect or it still gonna work since it been program to my truck vin ?
Once the CPC is removed, then you reinstall it. You don’t have to program it. It plug and play.
@@CarlosDieselElectric Thanks Pedro where is your shop I’m from here local LA area Ontario..
@@jaymultani6573 we are located at 659 S Maple ave. Montebello 90640
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I wonder how hard it would be to replicate the cpc4 module & have it made in china or somewhere else. I suppose it would have to do with how technical it is. But if something similar for another vehicle or even something with a basic computer motherboard from say a car or nintendo switch or cell phone could be programmed with the cpc4 basics couldn't this be feasible? Wouldn't have to look the same just have same functionality & sell for like $1k-$2k each. Would/could FTL sue? Especially since thier manufacturing capacity is driving people out of business? Seems like they're the ones who should be sued. They may just choose to look the other way. Hell FTL dealers may just go for this option.
I agree, someone should be able to program these or manufacture these elsewhere.
Smart man
So this is ezer to remove then a Cadilladic converter
Very easy. Open the door, remove the screws to the dash and it’s right there.
2018 Freightliner moved the location.
Esta caramba. Saludos bro.👍😎
What can u do with cpc why do they steal it
They are stealing them because the CPC4 is on national backorder. ETA is 8-12 months. They are slowing making their way back into inventory.
They just got mine f'n bastards!
While scrolling your video it looks like yours has the same wiring placement as mine. Mine is a 2015 automatic. Can you please show me the color codes and placement in each harness please
@@samsam-fk4hm I just went off a truck in a similar year. My customer brought me the connections from a junk truck that was wrecked. They cut the harness plugs and I went off the numbers on each wire. Very tedious work. But that might be your only option other than the dealer.
Sorry to hear this happened to you.
Yeah, that's exactly what I did, but I have 4 wires that do not match up number wise. I was lucky enough to have a picture of my old one so I have most of the wire in the right place (hopefully), but I have a warning light on for "2-channel accelerator pedal signal 2 missing". The picture I have doesn't show where the solid white and solid black go so I'm guessing they were spliced into another wire before the cpc and then I have 2 wires (440p1 and 440p2) that do not match any numbers on the harness. I tried to mix and match but no luck. Thank you for your response anyways.
There a place in greenville south they rebuild them
What to rebuild if it's stolen😅
Mine just got stolen 3 weeks ago smh
@@A5Media22 sorry to hear that. Most drivers have been simply removing it if the truck is left alone. Four screws and four plugs.
What state and city, they were in Illinois just recently
@@nicureality1427 Chicago
What the hell is a CPC…? 🧐
Common Powertrain Controller CPC. You will find this on Freightliner Cascadia with a Detroit engine.
@@CarlosDieselElectric does a 2016 Coronado have one? Yes it has a dd15…
@@raywebb8215 if I remember correctly, yes. Check behind the dash where the switches are located.
@@CarlosDieselElectric I called freightliner and they said that they stopped using them in 2016 but my vin does have one and as of yesterday there is still a 51 week wait to get one 😳
@@raywebb8215 call the local Freightliner here in Whittier. They had them last I checked.
Smh! Seems as though you just gave criminals a whole tutorial on how to steal them
Trust me. They already figured it out way before my video. I’m hoping to help drivers out. Spread the word.
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I have one for sale ready to go hit me up and it’s clean I took out from my Cascadia
it is stupid to take cpc out just because it can get stolen. 😅😅😅
This is stupid why not just take those 4 screws that hold the back plate and replace it with special key screw so when they come stealing their tools will be worthless
That’s probably the best option. I have been switching out all four with an Allen
@@CarlosDieselElectric What screw size? I bought allen #10 but won't go through the 'pins'
Hi.. can i have ur shop ìno??
Someone got me for mine last night I'm so fucking heated man 🤦🏿
Sorry to hear that. It is a huge problem because these are being sold for $3K-$5K on the streets and at Freightliner they are still on back order.
@@CarlosDieselElectric yes I've heard someone tell me they're so rare now that you can get up to 10 k shit sucks because it's right before the holidays and you never plan for that to happen 🤦🏿
California huh?
I know, sadly now it’s all across the US this is happening.
Where is your shop location?
We are located at 659 S Maple ave. Montebello 90640