I heavily lean towards the Legion of The Damned being an extension of the Emperor's will. It seems that the lore is leaning towards, "the Emperor wasn't a god, but he has become one." The chaos gods have their minions, both material and immaterial. Why would the Emperor not have the same?
Judging from the 'Master of Mankind' - these are souls of those to whom Emperor actually chose and was able to extend equivalent of salvation instead of dropping to the warp.
I'm a big Raven Guard fan and I usually like to listen to lore about the Mechanicum. That being said The Legion of the Damned are my absolute favorite 40K stories in the entire lore. The short story where the Space Marine is told he's dying and the one named member of the legion appears and says they're recruiting him if he'll make the choice might be my favorite story. I so much want Ferrus Manis to secretly be their Primarch in death regardless of who was their Primarchs in life. The Hell Gorgon just sounds cool and would make a lot of sense. I'm hoping 40K by way of Games Workshop doesn't shit the bed when they finally reveal the mystery. This Legion needs to be Space Marines so pissed off they refuse to die completely and have maybe the angriest and most brutal (outside of Angron of course) Primarch lead them. They can still be warp demons but it needs to be about revenge and slaughter. They can't just throw this one away like they have other pieces of lore. The question I have and other people have, is how many Primaris Marines have to die before the legion of the Damned start recruiting them? It wouldn't do much for them on the power side of things but it would make them even more intimidating spectres. This would especially work on Legions that have seen them before and fought them before. Have their vanguard be the big boys eventually and the enemy will shit and run.
Honestly, i hope they never do reveal the mystery. Its part of the appeal of them. They lose the whole "super natural, impossible apparition" vibe if you can explain them with certainty. Sure, the idea of answering the mystery is something everyone wants. As humans, we want answers. But the Legion is what it is because we DON'T know. Everything we know is speculation, nothing can be said with certainty except that they exist. I really think it would be best for the Legion if GW never touches their lore again, leaves it to our imagination, but maybe give us more models
@@raeishimura you make a very good point. The Lore can continue to develop for many years before any kind of reveal. A good compromise would be more stories that tell what the Legion is not. They can tell these stories without any reveal of their most valuable secrets. Maybe answer the question of the soul debt without giving away the secrets of their history and recruiting. You're right. It's not time yet.
Heard of some lore about a chapter which got taken out by the space wolves. The 11th legion? In battle, they were known to be wreathed in warpfire. Is this where the lorevis going??
weren't they mind wiped and absorbed by the other main legions like Ultramarines and Imperial Fist. I think this is why they were the largest legions pre heresy
@@covenant_05That's just an old theory without any evidence at this point. There have been enough clues in the HH books that they were wiped out. Also considering how stable Ultramarines are they would notice a different gene line. The Ultramarines were just that big because Guilleman already had 500 worlds. There is a cool moment where Malcador takes away the mental block from One of the Primarchs during the seige to show them the truth and they are like nevermind mind wipe again. There is a short story where Malcador slaps down Horus for pressing for information called The Last Council that is very good. They are called The Forgotten and The Purged which leads me to believe one was destroyed in the Rangdan Wars and the other was destroyed due to genetic defects. Just good guesses though.
@@covenant_05 Most of them were. Common belief is that their Primarchs and a handful of command-level Astartes from the two legions were erased from reality, quite literally, by Malcador and the Emperor himself. Rogal Dorn has memories of their erasure, sealed deep in his mind by Malcador himself, and when he confronted the Sigilite about them, he was shown those memories once more and admitted himself that if the 2nd and 11th Legions were present during the Heresy, Terra would have fallen. Implying that both would have gone traitor possibly before even Horus
Can the Legion of the Damned be trusted?
Ferrus Manus leads them, and I won't be told otherwise.
How can he lead if his hands are iron?
@heppatytto90 his hands aren't iron though.
What kind of question even is that? It doesn't make sense to me at all, maybe cause English isn't my native language?
Maybe they're the ghosts of one of the Lost 2nd or 11th Legions? ^.^
@@sylvia_laroux I actually like to think they are infact one of the legions
Cool video. And awesome voice acting!!
The book about St. Celestine provides an interesting take on a similar phenomenon.
Heretic: "Wait! Wait! You just shot 300 rounds from your bolt pistol without reloading! That isn't possible!"
LotD Space Marine: "Yes."
I heavily lean towards the Legion of The Damned being an extension of the Emperor's will. It seems that the lore is leaning towards, "the Emperor wasn't a god, but he has become one." The chaos gods have their minions, both material and immaterial. Why would the Emperor not have the same?
Do not forget about the similar Sororitas phenomenon some say is also connected to the Emperor's divinity
I love this channel. The VA is great
Thanks for a great insight to these both blessed and cursed legionaries.
Idk if you take advice but, some sort of catalog system available in your playlist section would be dope. Besides just “warhammer 40k”
We appreciate the advice! We will definetly do some kind of that, just a little later
Haven't had a chance to read about these guys yet so thank you for video!!!! Love the content keep it coming homie.
Falling in love with wahapendium!
Judging from the 'Master of Mankind' - these are souls of those to whom Emperor actually chose and was able to extend equivalent of salvation instead of dropping to the warp.
I like this, good voice, keep them coming
The Legion of the Damned are #1 in my top 3. Charcaradons and Black Dragons would be my other 2.
Why? What’s cool about those 2?
@bolkanox9849 cause they're monsters, but they are still loyal .
I'm a big Raven Guard fan and I usually like to listen to lore about the Mechanicum. That being said The Legion of the Damned are my absolute favorite 40K stories in the entire lore. The short story where the Space Marine is told he's dying and the one named member of the legion appears and says they're recruiting him if he'll make the choice might be my favorite story.
I so much want Ferrus Manis to secretly be their Primarch in death regardless of who was their Primarchs in life. The Hell Gorgon just sounds cool and would make a lot of sense. I'm hoping 40K by way of Games Workshop doesn't shit the bed when they finally reveal the mystery.
This Legion needs to be Space Marines so pissed off they refuse to die completely and have maybe the angriest and most brutal (outside of Angron of course) Primarch lead them. They can still be warp demons but it needs to be about revenge and slaughter. They can't just throw this one away like they have other pieces of lore.
The question I have and other people have, is how many Primaris Marines have to die before the legion of the Damned start recruiting them? It wouldn't do much for them on the power side of things but it would make them even more intimidating spectres. This would especially work on Legions that have seen them before and fought them before. Have their vanguard be the big boys eventually and the enemy will shit and run.
Honestly, i hope they never do reveal the mystery. Its part of the appeal of them. They lose the whole "super natural, impossible apparition" vibe if you can explain them with certainty.
Sure, the idea of answering the mystery is something everyone wants. As humans, we want answers. But the Legion is what it is because we DON'T know. Everything we know is speculation, nothing can be said with certainty except that they exist. I really think it would be best for the Legion if GW never touches their lore again, leaves it to our imagination, but maybe give us more models
@@raeishimura you make a very good point. The Lore can continue to develop for many years before any kind of reveal.
A good compromise would be more stories that tell what the Legion is not. They can tell these stories without any reveal of their most valuable secrets. Maybe answer the question of the soul debt without giving away the secrets of their history and recruiting.
You're right. It's not time yet.
Spicy Marines
Someone at GW really liked Ghost Rider!
Heard of some lore about a chapter which got taken out by the space wolves. The 11th legion? In battle, they were known to be wreathed in warpfire. Is this where the lorevis going??
Could be thunder birds
waaarrrp deeeemons.
At least we now know what happened to the 2nd and 11th legions
weren't they mind wiped and absorbed by the other main legions like Ultramarines and Imperial Fist. I think this is why they were the largest legions pre heresy
@@covenant_05That's just an old theory without any evidence at this point. There have been enough clues in the HH books that they were wiped out. Also considering how stable Ultramarines are they would notice a different gene line. The Ultramarines were just that big because Guilleman already had 500 worlds. There is a cool moment where Malcador takes away the mental block from One of the Primarchs during the seige to show them the truth and they are like nevermind mind wipe again. There is a short story where Malcador slaps down Horus for pressing for information called The Last Council that is very good. They are called The Forgotten and The Purged which leads me to believe one was destroyed in the Rangdan Wars and the other was destroyed due to genetic defects. Just good guesses though.
@@covenant_05 Most of them were. Common belief is that their Primarchs and a handful of command-level Astartes from the two legions were erased from reality, quite literally, by Malcador and the Emperor himself.
Rogal Dorn has memories of their erasure, sealed deep in his mind by Malcador himself, and when he confronted the Sigilite about them, he was shown those memories once more and admitted himself that if the 2nd and 11th Legions were present during the Heresy, Terra would have fallen. Implying that both would have gone traitor possibly before even Horus
Sounds very artificial. Like some text to speech program.
loved to see the OG - Arch got an aperance!