We have a game with unique skills that are generally not worth their cost and a game where all of the mastery skills are free and just overkill in most cases.
Both games didn't do a great job of handling mastery skills, and for the exact opposite reasons. It's an interesting case study of two ways you can make an ability in a game bad: don't make it good enough, or make it too good.
I mean, if I can say one positive: at least they're varied in this game. Unlike RD, where basically every single one of them is "triples strength/damage" with a secondary effect that you probably won't see because you basically just crit the enemy.
Exactly. RD's looked cool, but were pretty boring in effect. The variety here was a lot more interesting, they just could've made some of these more useful. There's also unused data suggesting Wyvern Lords would've had their own Occult Skill instead of sharing Stun. I wonder what it would've been.
My idea for a Wyvern Lord occult skill would be Skill% chance for 1.5 times damage plus poison. Wyverns are stated in some folklores to have poison breath, and why not have the wyvern mount join in on the battle?
ideally, most of there would have been pretty balanced had they been free in PoR They don't kill and they might be terrible nonetheless, but they were the unexpected factor that could have helped whenever it happened. NOt all of them though, obviously. Some would need some tweeking too for this to be actually balanced, but I'd consider this better than "Special Skill: death with extras" and how they are just useless for the most part here
This is a bit random, but this type of videos from you are my absolute favorite! You're actually the one who got me into Fire Emblem because when I bought Awakening, I was overwhelmed with everything that was going on. It was through watching your videos that I understood the game much better and actually started enjoying it a lot! I got my hands on a copy of PoR a while back and I'm playing it right now, so your let's play is actually a godsend! :)
Thanks. Making videos to help people like this has always been a joy of mine. You'll probably enjoy the video I plan on making about Fixed Mode at the end of this LP.
While speaking about usefulness of Roar I was just imagining bunch of Tigers ganking up on an unit roaring on it repeatedly while surrounding it... That's more hilarious than it should be, poor guy probably has trauma now xD
Great vid, but I have to disagree about deadeye. As someone who misses 98% chance moves on a daily bases (not even exaggerating), this skill is godlike for me.
So I think you have the effect of Colossus wrong. Its activation condition is the unit's Build being greater than the opponent, not Weight. This is relevant for mounted units because their Build doesn't include the weight of their mount. I just tested this and Boyd was able to Colossus Petrine, who weighs quite a bit more than him on her horse but has lower Con. The second is that it doesn't boost damage by 25%, but instead adds 25% of Str to damage (including when he's using the Bolt Axe or Bright Bow). This is done after damage calculation, so if he's dealing 0 damage (probably because you gave him the Bolt Axe or Bright Bow for some reason), he still gets the full colossus boost. Of course, since Boyd and the other guy cap Str at 30, this is just a 7 damage boost. Not exactly groundbreaking. None of this explains why Boyd has a -2 base Build modifier in class whose mastery skill requires high Build, which is why he can't Colossus other Warriors even with the Statue Frag. On another note, it appears Ashnard and BK's armor prevent mastery skills other than Aether from activating on them. I was trying to test if maybe Colossus would let Boyd damage them due to faulty programming, but it never triggered even when the RNG should have been good for it. Edited Aether onto him and it worked just fine (though he still did no damage). So that's neat.
SerenesForest might have had the effects of Colossus wrong. I wouldn't blame them since it's a pretty bad skill and isn't used much. Makes sense it'd work based off Build and not Weight, though I think that still means most Feral Ones are immune to it. And 25% of Strength is even worse than 1.25x damage.
@@BigKlingy Serenes seems to have it right aside from the interaction with the Bolt Axe ("If user’s Con > enemy’s Con, multiplies Strength by 1.25." Con and Build are the same thing). Both wikis also get the trigger right, but they think it's 1.25x damage. It'll work on the bird feral ones (they have low Build), but not the beasts or dragons. 25% of Str is better against enemies that have more Def than your weapon's Mt. Can't really remember how common that is in PoR, though it's probably true of most of the high Build enemies that the skill doesn't work on. Solid game design, IS.
My last playthrough I had Occults lying around and so I gave one to Rolf because he was the only one with the capacity, and I was impressed by Deadeye. My Rolf tended to have hitrates in the 80s, and I like using longbows which drive that further down, and the guaranteed hit is actually really, really nice. He also put an enemy to sleep in a useful way once or twice, maybe. That part wasn't as important.
For sure. I don't remember exactly but Rolf might've been skill screwed. If the skill had the exact same function in RD it would actually be pretty nice because of the inherent -30 accuracy penalty you take for attacking at 3 range.
A lot of those skills just fall under the "may as well" syndrome, since for several units, that's all they get. Jill may get two scrolls, or she may get Stun. Rolf may get Deadeye. Mist may get Sol. Ike WILL get Aether. Anyone with a decent pre-obtained skill will likely keep it and maybe one other scroll skill.
I disagree on Deadeye being a bad skill. It helped me in multiple chapters and it also helped me dick on Naesala. Sure enough, double hitrate sounds unnecessary but it's a goodie on top of the main feature which is putting an enemy to sleep pretty much forever. This helps weaker units who haven't benefited from B.EXP to get kills, too. I think it makes much sense, considering that archers are supposed to support their teammates over trying to get kills alone.
honestly. all the mastery skills outside of aether and sol i pretty much just treat as extra crit chance. cause that's all they really are. Also, fun story about astra. i've had a really really str screwed mia use AN ENTIRE BRAVE SWORD IN 1 COMBAT. through multiple procs of astra and adept. XD
I can only think of a very few occult skills that I think are worth it. Aether (Obviously), Sol really works, Lethality (If you're using Volke mostly), Luna if you really want to use a General, and Cancel if you're committing to one of the Hawks. Thats just my opinion.
Thanks for this! I never knew what Vortex did, and learning the details I never knew for Deadeye, Colossus and Lethality was interesting. Are you planning on doing a follow-up for the mastery skills in Radiant Dawn?
Don't plan on covering RD's mastery skills for reasons stated in the comments. All of them are basically "enemy instantly dies" with a flashy animations. 90% of their secondary effects don't matter because the enemy dies before they kick in.
Actually one of my sages Activated Flare with a Meteor (or was it Rhys with purge I don't remember the specifics) but long range Tomes can use Occult skill (flare) I know this cuz I nearly Killed the Bishop holding the Rexaura while trying to weaken him when it triggered (nearly gave me a freaking heart attack)
Considering how underwhelming most of the mastery skills are, I actually consider Deadeye to be good. Because you know what "overkill" accuracy is good against? Swordmasters and beast tribe laguz. Even with high base accuracy, these unit types have pretty high avoid, high enough for a skill-capped Rolf to have trouble reliably hitting depending on the weapon equipped. But with Deadeye, it's really cathartic to see a listed 100 hit against those units. And with that, the sleep chance becomes relevant, particularly against tigers and dragons.
I guess I'll share my opinions on the occult skills but overall there pretty similar to yours (Aether) Really good. Probably the easiest choice to use for the Black Knight fight. (Sol) If you are using a Paladin, GIVE IT TO THEM!! Pretty much one of the few good occult skills. (Luna) Like you said, mainly recommended for armored knights. (Astra) It's alright but there are better skills that use up less capacity. It's also annoying how much it can unnecessarily use up weapon durability. (Flare) It could've been useful if the enemy's resistance are already low to begin with. (Colossus) The skill only works on enemy units where you don't even need extra damage on. It's practically useless. (Stun) Bad, bad,BAD!!! Why would you ever rely on luck to give an enemy a status ailment. (Deadeye)Shinon's accuracy isn't that great when you get him back from chapter 19 so the accuracy boost isn't that useless for him at least. That's the only use I can think of it's that bad. (Lethality) Not worth using if you're using Volke to be honest. Assassin is tied to Snipers for having the highest skill cap out of every playable beorc class. A 30% chance to activate skills such as Adept or Guard can be useful and Resolve can make the chances even higher as well as alleviate the damage output issue. (Roar) It's... situational but I still think it's underated. In situations where you can't kill an enemy but you don't want them to cause any damage, Roar can have value. It's still not the best option but imo it's the only status inflicting skill done right but that's not saying much. (Cancel) Great skill, just sadly held back by it's users.
So about colossus. I sometimes do colossus with boyd on horsemen. The horsemen are much heavier then boyd but I still do colossus on them. So I don't think It's weight that matters.
That is probably not necessary considering they are all automatically obtained once reaching third tier class, and they all can pretty much be summed up as "one shot the enemy" lol
That's not necessary because there's no decision making to be had with those skills, and also not interesting because every single mastery skill does the same thing, which is kill the enemy. It's like a second critical.
These comments summed it up. I don't think it's all that necessary since all of them are essentially "enemy instantly dies" with a flashy animation, and there's no choice involved, all 3rd Tiers have them automatically.
I like how even though Luna is already completely impossible for any enemy in RD to survive, the BK had to go one better and get his own even more overkill variation of it which does 5x his strength for good measure. It deals more damage than the HP cap.
I always gave Ike the Occult scroll, but now I found out that you can give others to other characters. I was so excited but now your video stomped on my hopes and aspirations. Oh well, I'll still play favorites. I'll give Luna to Gatrie. But does Largo start out with his skill since he's promoted?
@@BigKlingy Ya but he's so late in the game, I feel like I'm not using the skills to their full potential. Once you take off a skill in this game, it's gone for good, right?
Even if you can never have it, here’s a fun interaction I found out: So, Deadeye permanently doubles accuracy. Gamble Halves this. Through some hacking, I found out that gamble gives you double Crit while putting you back to normal hit. It might be rather obvious, but I think it’s neat. It made my rerun of POR a lot more fun with Rolf and a Killer Bow.
Do you even have enough Capacity for Gamble + Deadeye though? Deadeye is 20 and I'm pretty sure Gable is 10, and most Beorc only have 25 Capacity total.
BigKlingy there normally never is enough capacity. I managed to test the interaction by hacking some extra capacity on to Rolf. It’s why I said it’s something you’d never really find, since it is an impossible combo. I just thought it was an interesting interaction.
I’m glad these skills got buffed in radiant dawn cause lots of the master skills like stun and colossus and deadeye do 3 times the damage and a critical with it broken in radiant dawn way better
A lot of Mastery Skills sucking in this game is quite ironic when it to Radiant Dawn where since they gave Mastery Skills to any unit that 3rd tier automaticity while also making it so every Mastery counted as a critical when it activated. Making it so that instead of the effect being the main draw of most Mastery Skills it’s the automatic crit that works of your Skill stat alone and is not influenced by the enemies Luck. As most enemies won’t live to see most of the effects. I like the celestial theme naming associated with Sol, Luna, Astra and maybe Flare. Just feels cool. Although it is quite weird to see Sol on Paladins as I associate it more with Hero’s. In fact I may be wrong but wasn’t Sol almost entirely used by Sword users before this with the exception of Gaiden’s Sol weapon. Colossus just seems to suck in general as the enemies you would want to use it on happen to prevent its activations entirely. With Stun the only thing you’re really stopping the enemy from doing is moving to try and pick off inits behind the user. A damage nullifying skill being on a class that isn’t that tanky. Not something you see everyday. Lethality is so much fun when it activates. One thing I observed is that in Awakening despite being a skill/4 chance of activating it actually has a better chance of activating there as considering that Assassin has a 48 skill cap so any character within the Assassin class will have 11-12.5% chance of activating it normally. And unlike here it is not reliant on getting a critical from a class with no crit bonus and no Killer Weapon equivalent. At least FE7 and FE8 had Killer Weapons to increase the chance and Fates at the bare minimum when it comes to capped stats has a 9.5% chance of consistently activating. (Not counting Cap Statues as I am merely pointing out how at bare minimum the chance of Lethality is slightly better in that game and since Lodestar has the highest Skill stat but was DLC I didn’t count it). Aether is useful no matter what game it is from as who doesn’t want a skill that heals you and increase damage at the same time. In Heroes I tend to find it has some problems since 5 on the Special Gauge means it takes a few battles to kick in during which time the enemy would have been dead by Luna or you would have more healing with Sol. hence I feel to be very useful it needs something to accelerate the Special Gauge. Which all three versions of Ike have in someway. And talking about Heroes and be topical I just got some new 5 Star Heroes from the Legendary Banner. Valentine Lyn, a rare armoured tome user who is quite fast for being an armoured unit and comes with Armour Marcy so she is going on my Armour team immediately. Although it is quite funny that somebody wearing a not especially heavy dress counts as Armoured. Female Morgan who I have wanted for a while and she is flying tome user and I didn’t have any of those before. Plus Female Morgan is one of my favourite characters from Awakening and her design being a combination of Tactician and Dark Flier classes is pretty neat. Her skill set is meant to pretty much designed to fight offensive Mages which gives her a good niche. And then we have Legendary Hector. Just seeing what that this guy was the Legendary Hero gave me the idea that he is going to be controversial. As Hector has had 3 variants so far and they all seem to build off the other. Regular Hector can double if attacked at a certain threshold of HP. Valentines Hector has ways to accelerate the Special Trigger and one of his skills prevents doubling from the opponent and himself but with that speed. Legendary Hector combines the doubling if attacked when above a certain threshold and Special Gauge acceleration with Vengeful Fighter and the HP threshold for the skill being deactivated is lower in this case. And his weapon prevents enemy doubling but it merely requires more allies to be closer to him than the enemies. Which can be done quite easily and doesn’t deactivate at certain HP thresholds. Hectors current three variants not only are the exact same unit type but each new version power creeps the others and makes them partially obsolete as their skill sets are very similar. Say what you want as with all of Tharja,s variants being Red Tome users at the very least they all have way different skill sets and one is of a different movement type than the others. I don’t mind it but I can understand why somebody would be annoyed. And then we have the fact that due to the fact that Brave Hector is very likely less than 2 months away we have a case of a hero gaining 2 alts in the span of less than 2 months. Although we don’t know when the developers decided to have Legendary Hector be a thing so him getting 2 alts that close together might be just a massive coincidence as Brave Hector as a concept is only slightly under 5 months old at this point. Legendary Hector might have been planned before then and he just happened to be a winner of Choose Your Legends 2 which caused such closeness in release. Sorry for the massive tangent. When I rewatch some of your older content I might write some comments as I only really got the confidence to actually comment recently.
Mastery Skills in RD might as well all be named "Enemy Instantly Dies". Except Sothe's, which makes him pretty bad later on. Sol, Luna and Astra all used to be exclusive to sword users, their names were even "Sunlight Blade", "Moonlight Blade" and "Starlight Blade" originally. They dropped the "blade" part in this game, at least in the Japanese version. I still tend to associate Sol with Paladins because this was the game that introduced the skill to me. You're basically right with Colossus. Lethality's max activation rate here is very similar to what it is in Awakening, the difference is there it's fully Skill based so the enemy's Luck doesn't factor in to it. Here, you're not likely to see 12.5% Lethality rates most of the time. Kind of weird hawks get something so defensive as their skill, but it's decent. I actually don't mind Legendary Hector. He doesn't yet have as many variants as Lyn. I was hoping he'd be a different unit type or use a sword though. We're probably getting Sword Hector as his BH version. I spend 80 Orbs on this banner so far... and got nothing.
Can only Ike take Aether? I remember in middle school playing this game and giving it to him randomly and seeing years later how he used it in Brawl. I was so shook
Honestly, considering how easy this game gets in the 2nd half, 20 capacity for a really cool animation isn't that bad. Especially Lethality. It's like Volke gets dizzy with all the power, lol Ugh why is Stun Skill/2% !? It should be be 100% activation considering it doesn't even give a damage bonus!
Personally I thought that Sol was pretty garbage just based on how much it would activate on latter hits than the first hit. Most of the time Kieran would always get 5-10ish HP back, which is okay since Vulneraries are your main source of healing, but he just couldn't kill anything. Meanwhile, Luna is good on Nephenee since her strength isn't stellar and despite her already having Wrath, which is good enough on its own, Luna can serve as a more safe option since it doesn't require an HP threshold. Flare is honestly terrible. Mostly used as a mage killer but you might as well use a physical unit for that. Colossus is the worst in the game. Has an activation threshold, and its damage potential is awful. Astra is... interesting to say the least. It's solid if you need it, but considering Mia has Vantage, Zihark has Adept, and Lucia is a terrible unit, you probably won't be slapping it on them. Deadeye is solid because unlike Stun it can actually render the target inactive. The accuracy boost is also nice. Lethality is similar to Astra. If you want it, good, it'll make Volke essentially a time bomb. If not, I doubt you'll lose much. Stun is tied for Colossus for being the worst in the game. Freezes the target in place and that's basically it. And it's such a small payoff for that activation rate. Roar/Cancel: Never really had experience with either of these. Roar is like Deadeye, and Cancel is basically FE4s Great Shield. Make of that what you will. It's hard to believe these skills got such a massive buff when transferred to Radiant Dawn. Except for Aether, but Aether was already a beefy skill to begin with.
I wonder if leanne would have been playable, then she would need an occult scroll. Man, colossus would have been so much better if it triggered when the opponent's weight was greater. Imagine giving boyd a pole axe equipped with that. Wish there were other skills that gave two range attacks to one range units.
She might have. Although she didn't even have the chant skill as an NPC. There IS a scroll for that coded into the game, but it's programmed to only work on TRANSFORMED Herons, and seeing as Laguz can't transform at the base it's impossible to use. Colossus fits with the theme of its classes, but it's not all that practical. It looks kind of cool though. Vortex is interesting, it's a shame they didn't make more command activation skills like that.
I wrote a stupid comment (I deleted it), thinking you made a math fail during your Astra segment when in reality I made a math fail myself. Guess this is a case of Burner math.
So most of the occultist skill suck/not useful expect luna, sol,cancel, and aether, but even then there are better skills, Okay got it. on the plus side the occultist skill animation are pretty cool animation( dat sniper animation)
Recruiting Stefan in Chapter 15 gets you one from a base conversation, and I think there's one more before then. If you don't have Aether by then, you can try Adept and Wrath. If you're on anything below Hard, that method is actually easier. (The BK doesn't move then, so just keep attacking from range and he can't get Luna. On Hard, the BK will always move into melee range if he can)
@@BigKlingy Cool. Ya I read Stefan gives you one but it seems he has the Occult skill and removing it doesn't allow you to give it to Ike. I was in the middle of chapter 21 yesterday and I traded the Occult scroll from Tauroneo to Ike so I hope that works. I'm playing on Medium mode so thanks for the advice if I can't get Aether.
Tauroneo's one is probably the easiest to get. Stefan gives you a scroll from a base conversation, you don't need to remove his Astra. (In Radiant Dawn, removing skills turns them into scrolls. Not here.)
@@BigKlingy I think I learned about the scroll after the conversation and don't know if I did something to it that I shouldn't have. Ike is a Lord, but it's not giving me the option to give him Aether. Stefan still has his Occult skill though. I'll just see if I can use Tauroneo's on Ike, and if not, I'll try the other method you said.
Mastery skills can't activate with Swords at range in this game. For all other weapons they can. This is why fighting the BK from range is "safer" since he can't get Luna, but you also can't get Aether from range.
Here you are talking about how great Aether is, and here I am laughing at watching Shinon get bodied over and over. I've decided to go with the Wrath/Resolve combo on Ike for the final boss, but throughout the game, I've never had my Ike take enough damage to be in Wrath range, so the one part of the combo that's around for longer has literally done nothing for me. I'm thinking I should have gone with Aether after all. I know Wrath/Resolve is extremely useful once it's available, but it's barely available in the first place. Sol is great, but most Paladins are pretty bulky anyway. The amount of times Oscar activated Sol when he literally didn't need it... Stefan... triggered Astra on one of the laguz in the desert in my run. They got wrecked. I forgot that unequipping your characters' stuff was a thing at the time, so RIP BEXP.
The final boss is one of the only reliable ways to get into Wrath/Resolve range. It's why I'm now regretting putting Vantage on Nephenee. I should've gone with Vantage Guard on Jill. Still, making them bulkier is definitely a good thing. Yeah, that's why I like to end pacifist runs of that chapter right after getting Stefan.
This iteration of Colossus has to be the stupidest idea for a class skill I’ve ever seen. Automatically fails against things like generals, wyvern riders, and Laguz who you might really like bonus damage on, but hey, at least you’ve got a ~20% chance to turn your 20 damage against a myrmidon into...25. Who could have possibly thought that was a good idea?
BigKlingy Yeah...when you started describing Deadeye my first thought was “hey, that’d be really cool if you could fit Gamble alongside it.” And then...nope. Seems like most of these skills really needed their, shall we say, enthusiastic, RD makeovers.
"This skill instantly kills the enemy. It has a secondary effect which you'll never see since the enemy will be dead. It is good but is forced to take up most of your capacity. The end." There's only a few RD Occult skills that don't work like this (Whisper's Bane), and I don't feel there's much point in discussing them since you automatically learn them on promoting to 3rd tier so there's no real limitations as to who to teach them to. Laguz need an item, but every worthwhile Laguz besides maybe Ranulf, Janaff and Ulki already start with their Mastery Skills.
You forgot to mention that Petrine has the Sol skill as well, and there was one enemy in the final chapter that does have the Astra skill. Petrine with Sol makes it annoying to actually kill her and the Astra guy is just meat food for me.
Oh yeah there's that random generic with Astra in the final chapter. (I feel like there's a random guy with Deadeye at one point too, but I'm not sure) Have you ever seen that Astra activate?
13:39 "when activated,puts enemys to sleep" WHY? sure hit multiplied the damage by 1,5.this is garbage.they buffed the hiteffect to always take place,but that isnt the important part of an archerskill.this is just disgraceful to the class lol
At this point I hadn't heard much voice acting from Thracia characters in Heroes so didn't know it was "Thray-cia." HOWEVER, it is written "Torakia" in Japanese katakana, and that's what I was going off of at the time.
9:20 Oi. Don't talk shit on Lucia. She's actually good in Radiant Dawn. Like...really good. She was the MVP of my RD run. Of course,her personality could use some work,but calling her one of the worst characters is an exaggeration,I find. Sorry for being serious,but I'm bitter.
This isn't Radiant Dawn. Also, I never really liked her in that game due to her availability being terrible. If she was usable for longer she'd probably be really good, but she's only in one Part 2 chapter and the very end of Part 3.
BigKlingy That is true. However. Given such things as Paragon and BEXP,she can be patched up. Yes,it can be considered a waste,but I like Lucia. Also,yeah,in THIS game,she's utter trash.
One thing that's funny about RD Lucia is if you 3rd Tier her in Part 2 (only possible on Easy I think) she gets her haircut earlier than she's supposed to. Remember, this video only pertains to THIS game.
BigKlingy Of course. Sorry,just get inflamed when people mention Lucia. She gets a looot of hate in the community. And just because of the one incident before she recieves said haircut. It's strange.
video could be shorter considering Sol and Aether are the two only viable skills considering that luna is good but generals are bad just like deadeye is nice but both rolf and shinon are complete garbage unit
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It was really satisfying watching Shinon take Aether to the face again and again.
That's why I did that. I could've used more clips of Aether, but I thought... why not have Shinon getting hit over and over.
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@@tootsie_ Claude would be proud.
PoR:
every occult skill does almost nothing exept aether.
RD:
every occult skill is freaking overkill exept aether
wat.
Eclipse for the win >:D
and even then, with how powerful Ike is, the enemy still probably instantly dies
This was the biggest problem for FE9 and 10. Skills are either OP or useless.
Don't forget Bane
I dunno about you but Aether is still overkill. The only one that actually sucks is Flare.
We have a game with unique skills that are generally not worth their cost and a game where all of the mastery skills are free and just overkill in most cases.
Both games didn't do a great job of handling mastery skills, and for the exact opposite reasons. It's an interesting case study of two ways you can make an ability in a game bad: don't make it good enough, or make it too good.
i find it funny how sol does tripple damage.always being a crit is not the point of sol as a skill
on the plus side we get a SICK sound effect for aether in PoR. Still upset that they got rid of it.
Can confirm, Flare can activate with long range tomes (Bolting, Blizzard, Meteor)
Ilyana has activated it many times on my playthroughs
Actually super useful but mostly only on the radiant maps or to take out ballista
I mean, if I can say one positive: at least they're varied in this game. Unlike RD, where basically every single one of them is "triples strength/damage" with a secondary effect that you probably won't see because you basically just crit the enemy.
Exactly. RD's looked cool, but were pretty boring in effect. The variety here was a lot more interesting, they just could've made some of these more useful.
There's also unused data suggesting Wyvern Lords would've had their own Occult Skill instead of sharing Stun. I wonder what it would've been.
My idea for a Wyvern Lord occult skill would be Skill% chance for 1.5 times damage plus poison. Wyverns are stated in some folklores to have poison breath, and why not have the wyvern mount join in on the battle?
Giving them a poisoning attack would both make sense and be kind of interesting. You rarely get poison on your side in FE games.
ideally, most of there would have been pretty balanced had they been free in PoR
They don't kill and they might be terrible nonetheless, but they were the unexpected factor that could have helped whenever it happened.
NOt all of them though, obviously. Some would need some tweeking too for this to be actually balanced, but I'd consider this better than "Special Skill: death with extras" and how they are just useless for the most part here
I've always liked Volke's drunken brawleresque animation for Lethality
It looks dumb imo, I prefer the RD Lethality animation.
But its so *sassy*
The Black Knight activating Luna on my dad during chapter 27 really got him to quit his Path of Radiance playthrough.
This is a bit random, but this type of videos from you are my absolute favorite! You're actually the one who got me into Fire Emblem because when I bought Awakening, I was overwhelmed with everything that was going on. It was through watching your videos that I understood the game much better and actually started enjoying it a lot!
I got my hands on a copy of PoR a while back and I'm playing it right now, so your let's play is actually a godsend! :)
Thanks. Making videos to help people like this has always been a joy of mine. You'll probably enjoy the video I plan on making about Fixed Mode at the end of this LP.
While speaking about usefulness of Roar I was just imagining bunch of Tigers ganking up on an unit roaring on it repeatedly while surrounding it... That's more hilarious than it should be, poor guy probably has trauma now xD
Shinon: HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO DIE????
I kinda wanna cosplay Assassin Volke someday, he looks really cool.
I can tell you he's fun to cosplay, I cosplayed him myself. Loved giving people scares by sneaking up on them with my Foam Dagger.
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Foam Dagger - Weight: 0 MT: 1 Uses: 50
Dagger made of foam. Not for combat.
THIS IS SO RANDOM.
@@NotThatUser i love this
Thaaaaaank you man, I didn't understand what every skill does, but you just explained it pretty good.
Colossus is based on Con/Build, not Weight.
This guide was very useful thank you
Sol is great, unless you're Mangs, and Oscar only triggers it at full HP
Or maybe it's not that great
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@@leemeyer9395 nah sol is great and probably the best after aether
honestly ike titania and volke are probably the only people worth it. and volkes really only because theres no reason not to.
Uh Oscar?
Great vid, but I have to disagree about deadeye. As someone who misses 98% chance moves on a daily bases (not even exaggerating), this skill is godlike for me.
I actually LOVE using deadeye in PoR, it's just extremely satisfying to use
So I think you have the effect of Colossus wrong. Its activation condition is the unit's Build being greater than the opponent, not Weight. This is relevant for mounted units because their Build doesn't include the weight of their mount. I just tested this and Boyd was able to Colossus Petrine, who weighs quite a bit more than him on her horse but has lower Con. The second is that it doesn't boost damage by 25%, but instead adds 25% of Str to damage (including when he's using the Bolt Axe or Bright Bow). This is done after damage calculation, so if he's dealing 0 damage (probably because you gave him the Bolt Axe or Bright Bow for some reason), he still gets the full colossus boost. Of course, since Boyd and the other guy cap Str at 30, this is just a 7 damage boost. Not exactly groundbreaking.
None of this explains why Boyd has a -2 base Build modifier in class whose mastery skill requires high Build, which is why he can't Colossus other Warriors even with the Statue Frag.
On another note, it appears Ashnard and BK's armor prevent mastery skills other than Aether from activating on them. I was trying to test if maybe Colossus would let Boyd damage them due to faulty programming, but it never triggered even when the RNG should have been good for it. Edited Aether onto him and it worked just fine (though he still did no damage). So that's neat.
SerenesForest might have had the effects of Colossus wrong. I wouldn't blame them since it's a pretty bad skill and isn't used much. Makes sense it'd work based off Build and not Weight, though I think that still means most Feral Ones are immune to it. And 25% of Strength is even worse than 1.25x damage.
@@BigKlingy Serenes seems to have it right aside from the interaction with the Bolt Axe ("If user’s Con > enemy’s Con, multiplies Strength by 1.25." Con and Build are the same thing). Both wikis also get the trigger right, but they think it's 1.25x damage.
It'll work on the bird feral ones (they have low Build), but not the beasts or dragons.
25% of Str is better against enemies that have more Def than your weapon's Mt. Can't really remember how common that is in PoR, though it's probably true of most of the high Build enemies that the skill doesn't work on. Solid game design, IS.
Pretty sure Adept can trigger with long range tomes. It happened my last play through, when Soren was using a Blizzard tome.
Adept is not mastery skill, it's a common skill
My last playthrough I had Occults lying around and so I gave one to Rolf because he was the only one with the capacity, and I was impressed by Deadeye. My Rolf tended to have hitrates in the 80s, and I like using longbows which drive that further down, and the guaranteed hit is actually really, really nice.
He also put an enemy to sleep in a useful way once or twice, maybe. That part wasn't as important.
I guess the accuracy boost helps sometimes, I just usually find that he and Rolf don't need help hitting things.
For sure. I don't remember exactly but Rolf might've been skill screwed.
If the skill had the exact same function in RD it would actually be pretty nice because of the inherent -30 accuracy penalty you take for attacking at 3 range.
I was just thinking about that.
You I just started playing this game again and got this item, glad apple was listening to me for once 😂, love the guide!
A lot of those skills just fall under the "may as well" syndrome, since for several units, that's all they get. Jill may get two scrolls, or she may get Stun. Rolf may get Deadeye. Mist may get Sol. Ike WILL get Aether. Anyone with a decent pre-obtained skill will likely keep it and maybe one other scroll skill.
Apparently if Ike aether's a door, he gets stuck in a loop and the game soft locks.
I've had that happen. It doesn't go on FOREVER though, it stops eventually. It just takes a while.
Lol I’m just imagining the rest of the party. “Ike! Ike! IKE! Stop hitting the door!!!” 😂
@@spiderlover678 "Dude, stop! It's already dead!"
I disagree on Deadeye being a bad skill. It helped me in multiple chapters and it also helped me dick on Naesala. Sure enough, double hitrate sounds unnecessary but it's a goodie on top of the main feature which is putting an enemy to sleep pretty much forever. This helps weaker units who haven't benefited from B.EXP to get kills, too. I think it makes much sense, considering that archers are supposed to support their teammates over trying to get kills alone.
honestly. all the mastery skills outside of aether and sol i pretty much just treat as extra crit chance. cause that's all they really are.
Also, fun story about astra. i've had a really really str screwed mia use AN ENTIRE BRAVE SWORD IN 1 COMBAT. through multiple procs of astra and adept. XD
I’m glad they gave Shinon Deadeye in Heroes AND made it so much better. Definitely one of the best specials in the game.
I like how shinons hair moves when he activates deadeye
If you remember there is that Bishop/Priest Hostage map. You can use roar on the enemies and bishops who come to attack you
I guess, though it feels like a bit of a waste to use an Occult on Lethe/Mordecai just for that map.
BigKlingy true
I can only think of a very few occult skills that I think are worth it. Aether (Obviously), Sol really works, Lethality (If you're using Volke mostly), Luna if you really want to use a General, and Cancel if you're committing to one of the Hawks. Thats just my opinion.
Thanks for this! I never knew what Vortex did, and learning the details I never knew for Deadeye, Colossus and Lethality was interesting. Are you planning on doing a follow-up for the mastery skills in Radiant Dawn?
Don't plan on covering RD's mastery skills for reasons stated in the comments. All of them are basically "enemy instantly dies" with a flashy animations. 90% of their secondary effects don't matter because the enemy dies before they kick in.
Actually one of my sages Activated Flare with a Meteor (or was it Rhys with purge I don't remember the specifics) but long range Tomes can use Occult skill (flare) I know this cuz I nearly Killed the Bishop holding the Rexaura while trying to weaken him when it triggered (nearly gave me a freaking heart attack)
Considering how underwhelming most of the mastery skills are, I actually consider Deadeye to be good.
Because you know what "overkill" accuracy is good against? Swordmasters and beast tribe laguz. Even with high base accuracy, these unit types have pretty high avoid, high enough for a skill-capped Rolf to have trouble reliably hitting depending on the weapon equipped. But with Deadeye, it's really cathartic to see a listed 100 hit against those units. And with that, the sleep chance becomes relevant, particularly against tigers and dragons.
Deadeye's animation is indeed very cool.
Of course one of the worst mastery skills would have one of the best animations. Kind of makes me wish Deadeye was in Heroes.
Flare works on knives if I remember correctly but still targets resso....
My favorite combination for Ike is Wrath/Nihil for the Black Knight, then trade Nihil for Resolve when I get it.
I guess I'll share my opinions on the occult skills but overall there pretty similar to yours
(Aether) Really good. Probably the easiest choice to use for the Black Knight fight.
(Sol) If you are using a Paladin, GIVE IT TO THEM!! Pretty much one of the few good occult skills.
(Luna) Like you said, mainly recommended for armored knights.
(Astra) It's alright but there are better skills that use up less capacity. It's also annoying how much it can unnecessarily use up weapon durability.
(Flare) It could've been useful if the enemy's resistance are already low to begin with.
(Colossus) The skill only works on enemy units where you don't even need extra damage on. It's practically useless.
(Stun) Bad, bad,BAD!!! Why would you ever rely on luck to give an enemy a status ailment.
(Deadeye)Shinon's accuracy isn't that great when you get him back from chapter 19 so the accuracy boost isn't that useless for him at least. That's the only use I can think of it's that bad.
(Lethality) Not worth using if you're using Volke to be honest. Assassin is tied to Snipers for having the highest skill cap out of every playable beorc class. A 30% chance to activate skills such as Adept or Guard can be useful and Resolve can make the chances even higher as well as alleviate the damage output issue.
(Roar) It's... situational but I still think it's underated. In situations where you can't kill an enemy but you don't want them to cause any damage, Roar can have value. It's still not the best option but imo it's the only status inflicting skill done right but that's not saying much.
(Cancel) Great skill, just sadly held back by it's users.
Flare definitely can activate with seige tomes. I have done it with Rhys once. (It did 4 extra damage to a Tiger, kek)
I'm surprised you didn't mention that Ike's Aether animation is used by the Heroes in the GBA FE games.
I know that, but I didn't find it relevant here.
Sol can still activate in long range combat. The only exception is magic sword i think
So about colossus. I sometimes do colossus with boyd on horsemen. The horsemen are much heavier then boyd but I still do colossus on them. So I don't think It's weight that matters.
will you do the same in RD? for the new Maestry skills from that game?
That is probably not necessary considering they are all automatically obtained once reaching third tier class, and they all can pretty much be summed up as "one shot the enemy" lol
More like "wait these insta death skills have secondary effects?"
That's not necessary because there's no decision making to be had with those skills, and also not interesting because every single mastery skill does the same thing, which is kill the enemy. It's like a second critical.
These comments summed it up. I don't think it's all that necessary since all of them are essentially "enemy instantly dies" with a flashy animation, and there's no choice involved, all 3rd Tiers have them automatically.
I like how even though Luna is already completely impossible for any enemy in RD to survive, the BK had to go one better and get his own even more overkill variation of it which does 5x his strength for good measure. It deals more damage than the HP cap.
Shinon must have been surprised to have Ike upB slaughter him
Was it path or rd that the only benny to deadeye's sleep was a pseudo cancel?
If you could fit gamble and deadeye together, then it'd be op.
Rolf or Astrid with 100% crit/hit sounds insane.
Astrid got Sol instead
I always gave Ike the Occult scroll, but now I found out that you can give others to other characters. I was so excited but now your video stomped on my hopes and aspirations. Oh well, I'll still play favorites. I'll give Luna to Gatrie. But does Largo start out with his skill since he's promoted?
Largo needs an Occult used on him to get his. And Colossus really isn't worth it, I'd recommend Vantage + Wrath on him instead, that's really fun.
@@BigKlingy Ya but he's so late in the game, I feel like I'm not using the skills to their full potential. Once you take off a skill in this game, it's gone for good, right?
Yes, it's gone. And other people can arguably make use of that combo better, but I still find it really fun on him.
@@BigKlingy Ah, that's so lame. I think in Radiant Dawn, you can exchange them around. Do you have to sacrifice skills to give Kieren Sol?
@@imafreakinninja12 Yes, you would. Thankfully Gamble on Kieran is pretty bad, you can get rid of it without worrying much.
Deadeye plus gamble would be good, if it wasn't impossibleimpossible
Even if you can never have it, here’s a fun interaction I found out:
So, Deadeye permanently doubles accuracy. Gamble Halves this. Through some hacking, I found out that gamble gives you double Crit while putting you back to normal hit. It might be rather obvious, but I think it’s neat. It made my rerun of POR a lot more fun with Rolf and a Killer Bow.
Do you even have enough Capacity for Gamble + Deadeye though? Deadeye is 20 and I'm pretty sure Gable is 10, and most Beorc only have 25 Capacity total.
BigKlingy there normally never is enough capacity. I managed to test the interaction by hacking some extra capacity on to Rolf. It’s why I said it’s something you’d never really find, since it is an impossible combo. I just thought it was an interesting interaction.
I noticed that part when re-reading your comment. Sorry I missed it the first time.
Soooo the sonic sword sword and runesword at 2 range are the only weapons that can't proc mastery skills.
dngale41 Also Alondite and Ragnell. Which the former part can come in handy if you wanna prevent the Black Knight from proccing Luna
I’m glad these skills got buffed in radiant dawn cause lots of the master skills like stun and colossus and deadeye do 3 times the damage and a critical with it broken in radiant dawn way better
If only gamble only cost 5. Deadeye plus double crit = a delete button
Truth right now: We've been underestimating Deadeye this entire time
I think that weapon consumption doesn't apply for Astra in Awakening.
Yes, they changed it in that game. There, all skills that hit multiple times only cost 1 durability.
If there was more capacity, deadeye and gamble would be so broken xd
A lot of Mastery Skills sucking in this game is quite ironic when it to Radiant Dawn where since they gave Mastery Skills to any unit that 3rd tier automaticity while also making it so every Mastery counted as a critical when it activated. Making it so that instead of the effect being the main draw of most Mastery Skills it’s the automatic crit that works of your Skill stat alone and is not influenced by the enemies Luck. As most enemies won’t live to see most of the effects.
I like the celestial theme naming associated with Sol, Luna, Astra and maybe Flare. Just feels cool. Although it is quite weird to see Sol on Paladins as I associate it more with Hero’s. In fact I may be wrong but wasn’t Sol almost entirely used by Sword users before this with the exception of Gaiden’s Sol weapon.
Colossus just seems to suck in general as the enemies you would want to use it on happen to prevent its activations entirely.
With Stun the only thing you’re really stopping the enemy from doing is moving to try and pick off inits behind the user.
A damage nullifying skill being on a class that isn’t that tanky. Not something you see everyday.
Lethality is so much fun when it activates. One thing I observed is that in Awakening despite being a skill/4 chance of activating it actually has a better chance of activating there as considering that Assassin has a 48 skill cap so any character within the Assassin class will have 11-12.5% chance of activating it normally. And unlike here it is not reliant on getting a critical from a class with no crit bonus and no Killer Weapon equivalent. At least FE7 and FE8 had Killer Weapons to increase the chance and Fates at the bare minimum when it comes to capped stats has a 9.5% chance of consistently activating. (Not counting Cap Statues as I am merely pointing out how at bare minimum the chance of Lethality is slightly better in that game and since Lodestar has the highest Skill stat but was DLC I didn’t count it).
Aether is useful no matter what game it is from as who doesn’t want a skill that heals you and increase damage at the same time. In Heroes I tend to find it has some problems since 5 on the Special Gauge means it takes a few battles to kick in during which time the enemy would have been dead by Luna or you would have more healing with Sol. hence I feel to be very useful it needs something to accelerate the Special Gauge. Which all three versions of Ike have in someway.
And talking about Heroes and be topical I just got some new 5 Star Heroes from the Legendary Banner. Valentine Lyn, a rare armoured tome user who is quite fast for being an armoured unit and comes with Armour Marcy so she is going on my Armour team immediately. Although it is quite funny that somebody wearing a not especially heavy dress counts as Armoured. Female Morgan who I have wanted for a while and she is flying tome user and I didn’t have any of those before. Plus Female Morgan is one of my favourite characters from Awakening and her design being a combination of Tactician and Dark Flier classes is pretty neat. Her skill set is meant to pretty much designed to fight offensive Mages which gives her a good niche. And then we have Legendary Hector.
Just seeing what that this guy was the Legendary Hero gave me the idea that he is going to be controversial. As Hector has had 3 variants so far and they all seem to build off the other. Regular Hector can double if attacked at a certain threshold of HP. Valentines Hector has ways to accelerate the Special Trigger and one of his skills prevents doubling from the opponent and himself but with that speed. Legendary Hector combines the doubling if attacked when above a certain threshold and Special Gauge acceleration with Vengeful Fighter and the HP threshold for the skill being deactivated is lower in this case. And his weapon prevents enemy doubling but it merely requires more allies to be closer to him than the enemies. Which can be done quite easily and doesn’t deactivate at certain HP thresholds. Hectors current three variants not only are the exact same unit type but each new version power creeps the others and makes them partially obsolete as their skill sets are very similar. Say what you want as with all of Tharja,s variants being Red Tome users at the very least they all have way different skill sets and one is of a different movement type than the others. I don’t mind it but I can understand why somebody would be annoyed.
And then we have the fact that due to the fact that Brave Hector is very likely less than 2 months away we have a case of a hero gaining 2 alts in the span of less than 2 months. Although we don’t know when the developers decided to have Legendary Hector be a thing so him getting 2 alts that close together might be just a massive coincidence as Brave Hector as a concept is only slightly under 5 months old at this point. Legendary Hector might have been planned before then and he just happened to be a winner of Choose Your Legends 2 which caused such closeness in release. Sorry for the massive tangent.
When I rewatch some of your older content I might write some comments as I only really got the confidence to actually comment recently.
Mastery Skills in RD might as well all be named "Enemy Instantly Dies". Except Sothe's, which makes him pretty bad later on.
Sol, Luna and Astra all used to be exclusive to sword users, their names were even "Sunlight Blade", "Moonlight Blade" and "Starlight Blade" originally. They dropped the "blade" part in this game, at least in the Japanese version. I still tend to associate Sol with Paladins because this was the game that introduced the skill to me.
You're basically right with Colossus.
Lethality's max activation rate here is very similar to what it is in Awakening, the difference is there it's fully Skill based so the enemy's Luck doesn't factor in to it. Here, you're not likely to see 12.5% Lethality rates most of the time.
Kind of weird hawks get something so defensive as their skill, but it's decent.
I actually don't mind Legendary Hector. He doesn't yet have as many variants as Lyn. I was hoping he'd be a different unit type or use a sword though. We're probably getting Sword Hector as his BH version.
I spend 80 Orbs on this banner so far... and got nothing.
Yeah... RD made Occult skills much better...
Can only Ike take Aether? I remember in middle school playing this game and giving it to him randomly and seeing years later how he used it in Brawl. I was so shook
Aether is exclusive to Ike, yes.
Honestly, considering how easy this game gets in the 2nd half, 20 capacity for a really cool animation isn't that bad. Especially Lethality. It's like Volke gets dizzy with all the power, lol
Ugh why is Stun Skill/2% !? It should be be 100% activation considering it doesn't even give a damage bonus!
Personally I thought that Sol was pretty garbage just based on how much it would activate on latter hits than the first hit.
Most of the time Kieran would always get 5-10ish HP back, which is okay since Vulneraries are your main source of healing, but he just couldn't kill anything.
Meanwhile, Luna is good on Nephenee since her strength isn't stellar and despite her already having Wrath, which is good enough on its own, Luna can serve as a more safe option since it doesn't require an HP threshold.
Flare is honestly terrible. Mostly used as a mage killer but you might as well use a physical unit for that.
Colossus is the worst in the game. Has an activation threshold, and its damage potential is awful.
Astra is... interesting to say the least. It's solid if you need it, but considering Mia has Vantage, Zihark has Adept, and Lucia is a terrible unit, you probably won't be slapping it on them.
Deadeye is solid because unlike Stun it can actually render the target inactive. The accuracy boost is also nice.
Lethality is similar to Astra. If you want it, good, it'll make Volke essentially a time bomb. If not, I doubt you'll lose much.
Stun is tied for Colossus for being the worst in the game. Freezes the target in place and that's basically it. And it's such a small payoff for that activation rate.
Roar/Cancel: Never really had experience with either of these. Roar is like Deadeye, and Cancel is basically FE4s Great Shield.
Make of that what you will.
It's hard to believe these skills got such a massive buff when transferred to Radiant Dawn. Except for Aether, but Aether was already a beefy skill to begin with.
I wonder if leanne would have been playable, then she would need an occult scroll.
Man, colossus would have been so much better if it triggered when the opponent's weight was greater. Imagine giving boyd a pole axe equipped with that.
Wish there were other skills that gave two range attacks to one range units.
She might have. Although she didn't even have the chant skill as an NPC. There IS a scroll for that coded into the game, but it's programmed to only work on TRANSFORMED Herons, and seeing as Laguz can't transform at the base it's impossible to use.
Colossus fits with the theme of its classes, but it's not all that practical. It looks kind of cool though.
Vortex is interesting, it's a shame they didn't make more command activation skills like that.
I wrote a stupid comment (I deleted it), thinking you made a math fail during your Astra segment when in reality I made a math fail myself.
Guess this is a case of Burner math.
Deadeye can actually be decent when using longbows.... Yeah that's about it.
So most of the occultist skill suck/not useful expect luna, sol,cancel, and aether, but even then there are better skills, Okay got it.
on the plus side the occultist skill animation are pretty cool animation( dat sniper animation)
All the animations are pretty cool, shame Deadeye sucks. Thankfully its a lot better in Radiant Dawn.
So is the only way to have Ike get Aether before the black knight is to steal the occult scroll from the ship? I'm still a little new to Fire Emblem.
Recruiting Stefan in Chapter 15 gets you one from a base conversation, and I think there's one more before then.
If you don't have Aether by then, you can try Adept and Wrath. If you're on anything below Hard, that method is actually easier. (The BK doesn't move then, so just keep attacking from range and he can't get Luna. On Hard, the BK will always move into melee range if he can)
@@BigKlingy Cool. Ya I read Stefan gives you one but it seems he has the Occult skill and removing it doesn't allow you to give it to Ike. I was in the middle of chapter 21 yesterday and I traded the Occult scroll from Tauroneo to Ike so I hope that works. I'm playing on Medium mode so thanks for the advice if I can't get Aether.
Tauroneo's one is probably the easiest to get. Stefan gives you a scroll from a base conversation, you don't need to remove his Astra. (In Radiant Dawn, removing skills turns them into scrolls. Not here.)
@@BigKlingy I think I learned about the scroll after the conversation and don't know if I did something to it that I shouldn't have. Ike is a Lord, but it's not giving me the option to give him Aether. Stefan still has his Occult skill though. I'll just see if I can use Tauroneo's on Ike, and if not, I'll try the other method you said.
Ike might not have enough capacity then. He needs 20.
Aether can activate at 2 range, I've seen it, it's possible, just moderately rare
Maybe against doors, but I know it can't do that against enemies.
@@BigKlingy are you saying it's hardcoded like that?
Mastery skills can't activate with Swords at range in this game. For all other weapons they can. This is why fighting the BK from range is "safer" since he can't get Luna, but you also can't get Aether from range.
So its hardcoded, yes or no?
Not sure, but according to most sources this is true. I have yet to see any proof of it being able to activate at range.
I still want to see Ashnard's stun animation.
I guess with hacking, it's possible.
@@BigKlingy He can learn it, I just mean I have not seen any videos of him actually activating it.
@@BigKlingy How amusing, a week later a video with it showed up in my recommended. It's 15:04 in.
ruclips.net/video/bH8K4WDmwzU/видео.html
Here you are talking about how great Aether is, and here I am laughing at watching Shinon get bodied over and over. I've decided to go with the Wrath/Resolve combo on Ike for the final boss, but throughout the game, I've never had my Ike take enough damage to be in Wrath range, so the one part of the combo that's around for longer has literally done nothing for me. I'm thinking I should have gone with Aether after all. I know Wrath/Resolve is extremely useful once it's available, but it's barely available in the first place.
Sol is great, but most Paladins are pretty bulky anyway. The amount of times Oscar activated Sol when he literally didn't need it...
Stefan... triggered Astra on one of the laguz in the desert in my run. They got wrecked. I forgot that unequipping your characters' stuff was a thing at the time, so RIP BEXP.
The final boss is one of the only reliable ways to get into Wrath/Resolve range. It's why I'm now regretting putting Vantage on Nephenee. I should've gone with Vantage Guard on Jill.
Still, making them bulkier is definitely a good thing.
Yeah, that's why I like to end pacifist runs of that chapter right after getting Stefan.
This iteration of Colossus has to be the stupidest idea for a class skill I’ve ever seen. Automatically fails against things like generals, wyvern riders, and Laguz who you might really like bonus damage on, but hey, at least you’ve got a ~20% chance to turn your 20 damage against a myrmidon into...25. Who could have possibly thought that was a good idea?
The same person who thought Stun letting the enemy attack was a good idea. And probably the same person who thought Deadeye was a good idea.
BigKlingy Yeah...when you started describing Deadeye my first thought was “hey, that’d be really cool if you could fit Gamble alongside it.” And then...nope. Seems like most of these skills really needed their, shall we say, enthusiastic, RD makeovers.
This video reminded me how bad the occult skills were lol
I’ve got to ask Radiant Dawn Occult Scrolls guide when?
"This skill instantly kills the enemy. It has a secondary effect which you'll never see since the enemy will be dead. It is good but is forced to take up most of your capacity. The end."
There's only a few RD Occult skills that don't work like this (Whisper's Bane), and I don't feel there's much point in discussing them since you automatically learn them on promoting to 3rd tier so there's no real limitations as to who to teach them to. Laguz need an item, but every worthwhile Laguz besides maybe Ranulf, Janaff and Ulki already start with their Mastery Skills.
@@BigKlingy oh well that solves my query, honestly I kind of surprises me how quick your response was, but once again thanks. 🙂👍
What does resolve do?
Multiplies Strength, Skill and Speed by 1.5x when HP is half or less.
In Radiant Dawn, it only multiplies Skill and Speed.
I honestly think vortex is awesome and it would had been better if nesala had better magic in here . he would be a killing machine
lol so wrong to aether Shinnon 20 times
You forgot to mention that Petrine has the Sol skill as well, and there was one enemy in the final chapter that does have the Astra skill. Petrine with Sol makes it annoying to actually kill her and the Astra guy is just meat food for me.
Oh yeah there's that random generic with Astra in the final chapter. (I feel like there's a random guy with Deadeye at one point too, but I'm not sure) Have you ever seen that Astra activate?
Actually he nearly killed Rolf in the final chapter with Astra so yes I did see him use Astra.
Now we know why Ike left to train after this game. They lacked a lot of skill or just isn't a good unit.
Deadeye in radiant dawn is way more useless. Triple the damage is killing the ennemi so why they keep the sleep effect? 🤷♂️
That's every RD mastery skill though. They all have secondary effects you'll never see because the enemy just dies.
@@BigKlingy
I saw the effect with elincia and micahia. There were not enough strong to do a lot of damage.
But you are right
13:39 "when activated,puts enemys to sleep" WHY? sure hit multiplied the damage by 1,5.this is garbage.they buffed the hiteffect to always take place,but that isnt the important part of an archerskill.this is just disgraceful to the class lol
Deadeye is really bad in PoR. It's decent in RD, but nearly all Mastery Skills in that game are just "enemy instantly dies".
Aether & sol good, else waste.
Aether and Sol are the only good ones
11:46 THRAKIA??????????????????
At this point I hadn't heard much voice acting from Thracia characters in Heroes so didn't know it was "Thray-cia."
HOWEVER, it is written "Torakia" in Japanese katakana, and that's what I was going off of at the time.
@@BigKlingy Ah, I see now, it's just that sometimes it REALLY confuses me when people pronounce names with a C like a K
@@TheBobmBoy I guess it's just my experience with Japanese games, where there's no "c" in the language and everything is a hard "k".
@@BigKlingy I mean Fire Emblem WAS a game franchise typically meant to be from Japan, so I guess that's fair
Most of them suck but they look kool
Sol>Aether. 😎
9:20 Oi. Don't talk shit on Lucia. She's actually good in Radiant Dawn. Like...really good. She was the MVP of my RD run. Of course,her personality could use some work,but calling her one of the worst characters is an exaggeration,I find. Sorry for being serious,but I'm bitter.
This isn't Radiant Dawn.
Also, I never really liked her in that game due to her availability being terrible. If she was usable for longer she'd probably be really good, but she's only in one Part 2 chapter and the very end of Part 3.
BigKlingy That is true. However. Given such things as Paragon and BEXP,she can be patched up. Yes,it can be considered a waste,but I like Lucia. Also,yeah,in THIS game,she's utter trash.
One thing that's funny about RD Lucia is if you 3rd Tier her in Part 2 (only possible on Easy I think) she gets her haircut earlier than she's supposed to.
Remember, this video only pertains to THIS game.
BigKlingy Of course. Sorry,just get inflamed when people mention Lucia. She gets a looot of hate in the community. And just because of the one incident before she recieves said haircut. It's strange.
Really, people hate her over that? She gets an awesome speech to the rebels there.
video could be shorter considering Sol and Aether are the two only viable skills
considering that luna is good but generals are bad just like deadeye is nice but both rolf and shinon are complete garbage unit