Tôi nghĩ còng họ lại là đủ rồi còn đắm họ thì không nên, nếu để hắn chạy thì thật là nguy hiểm cho những người đang lưu thông trên đường vì hắn có thể gây ra tai nạn cho những người vô tội một cách đáng tiếc.
@@raveporn "what if what if what if". Fuk off. This is an illegally armed man with a firearm drug-dealer with intent to harm, and all you care about is "what if accident happened D:" I don't care about what if, I care about reality. Reality is, this dangerous drug-dealing illegally armed individual isn't a threat to anyone anymore. I'm so sick of laws being put into place on "what if" scenarios. Live in reality, not in your head.
Yeah don’t live in Minnesota - if that’s how they police???? Well no police needed then. SMH. I’m floored how poorly they responded or failed to perform
@@littlebob1261 he physically assaulted an officer and fled form a traffic stop. Im sure if the old man struck your mom crossing the street you'd be crying from the hilltops asking why the police didnt stop them. why not just make it illegal for officers to stop cars period. Matter of fact, why not just get rid of the police all together..I mean, theyre ALL evil right? illhain Omar sure seems to think its a great idea.
@@littlebob1261you can just not open your door. Or run again. Endless cycle. Also everybody is going to be speeding away if this is the case. And these fucknuts get to do their crime while the popo get that ‘warrant’
@@SG-us4gzok, let’s dumb it down. Let’s say they flee, and they peruse. Now let’s say they’re going 100+ and they hit a vehicle with an entire family in it. Nobody’s trying to let criminals get away or destroy evidence. They’re trying to avoid any preventable deaths that can and have occurred because of pursuits.
Incompetence: 1. Did not handcuff the driver when he got him out of the car. 2. Did not put the driver in back. 3. Did not get the keys 4. Did not ram the vehicle, numerous times, when it was moving at low speed. Their negligence, and other officers failure to ram stop the vehicle put children, other road users lives at risk and ultimately cost the lives of the perps. WTF!!!!????????? Anyone going to get disciplined for this appallingly pathetic police work?
@@kaecake9575 Doesn't seem like it, Russia hasn't made any significant moves on Ukraine these past few months... And now Ukraine has launched assaults in Russia? orc.
What kind state agency can’t pursue? I understand some departments have policies where you can’t pursue unless it’s for a violent felony but I’ve never seen a state police agency that doesn’t allow pursuits.
@@ryanfarmer5155 Naw, one that has a policy if you ID the suspect and it's a non violent felony you don't put the public in danger with a 100 mph chase, You know who it is, you get a warrant and go to his house. I'm sorry logic breaks an insurrectionists head
are you telling me you really dont know who's politically in charge of running that state? let me give you a hint, they despise the police and love criminals..
@@timothyhh They could get out during that pursuit, yes, but what I meant is, they will eventually be caught one way or another, sooner or later, they will find him... Unless he successfully flee to Venezuela.
Y'know, I suppose by the time you reach the age of the driver there isn't really much incentive to surrender when you're just going to wind up in jail for whatever is left of your life.
If the officer wasn’t so intent on getting the occupant out of the passenger’s front seat of the car, he would have been able to stop the big old driver from getting back in the car and taking off. The driver was limping but the officer had tunnel vision so he missed the great opportunity he had to avoid the car chase and possibly save the life of the other suspect.
The other channels showed the shooting... there's no reason not to...it only showed the officer shooting, not the body after..... Either way. it was stupid for State patrol to not be allowed to pursue, once they take off, it's a felony to flee law enforcement... plus it's more dangerous to the sheriff to go off on his own.
God bless our officers. I am a nurse in an ER and deal with the MN state troopers and local law enforcement often. They are always first class, with the patience of saints...more than myself at times sad to say.
As a RFLEO, I absolutely don't understand why the LEO that had the driver go back to his cruiser without searching him first. I understand that every situation is different, yet that mistake alone could have caused the officer his life. Never have a suspect detained, regardless of offense not patted down beforehand. The can't pursuit policy is insane imho. What's next? Only one bullet permitted per bad guy shooting at you? I understand the reasons with liability of pursuits. With that situation, they should use a cut down version of spikes placed both directions on suspect vehicle. Each state has citizens rights, yet in a drug operation those rights should be eliminated imho. There's no doubt legal issues with that, yet its common sense. At the very least, get the keys. You never conduct a possible felony stop involving 4 suspects alone. If there's a BOLO n suspects of drug trafficking, get backup first. No cowboy stuff, its far too dangerous, especially with suspects knowing being arrested will mean a long sentence with firearms n drug trafficking. Where's DHS in all this?
@@tyclark8162as a retired LEO, I see little problem with bringing him back to the car. He’s not going to get a better jump on you compared to both of you being outside talking. I’ve heard that officer safety search for decades, but it isn’t particularly rational. What’s the difference patting him down before he goes in your car versus when you first get him out? Nothing. The difference having him in your car is negligible risk wise. The benefits of bringing them back to the squad are huge. It’s far easier to pick up odors of alcohol or drugs. You’ve also taken them further away from their primary escape route and any potential weapons close at hand in the vehicle. As long as you’re moderately skilled in hand to hand, you can have control of the suspect while having limited the ease of his other options. Lastly, you’ve provided additional separation between the suspect and anyone else in the vehicle.
I'm pretty impressed 8 shots fired, the guy with the gun was taken out, a passenger was only hit once with 4 people in the car. That seems like pretty good shooting.
@@loomspaceplay stupid games win stupid prizes. They had every opportunity when they were stopped to get out of the damn car. Stopped the first time**
@@GusDubetz yep arm chair quarterback here too, and they definitely showed signs of lack of tataical precision in a close quarters fire fight or coordination and training in felony take downs, not to mention unskilled pit execution and spike strip deployment.. .but they did shoot a unarmed man and kill the driver in the end...that was a bad day for everyone involved 🤔
@@johnnyo5993 Actually, you can start way before that when they didn't take the driver's keys and allowed the old man to hobble back to the car and drive off. Policing 101: Don't make it so easy that an old man with a limp driving a car full of drugs can simply get back in the car and escape!
The trooper saying he can't pursue is probably fresh out the academy and on a one year probationary period during which time he cannot engage in pursuit. Atleast that's how it was for me when I became a sheriff's deputy.
finally the first plausible explanation I could find on here. everyone else just presumes and blurts out "waaaa far-left waaaaaa" while investigating nothing beforehand. it's kind of gross how quick people in this country stoop to that level; politics has become a mental disease.
I was thinking it's possible that because of the type of stop and because it was set up by what looks like a multi state but is at least a multi county entity, there may be policy or rules around that. I also think there could be a policy stopping regular law enforcement from intervention past a traffic stop because too many times have regular beat cops been used to stop vehicles in high profile drug cases and ending up with them dead. So there might be a law or policy saying you can use our cops for the stop but nothing further. And since sheriff's are elected and their deputies are appointed, they might have completely different policy on the matter. Or none at all. Idk. Just guessing. Could be a probationary thing though.
That is about the dumbest policy I have ever heard in my career! You can pack a gun and take away the freedom of people, but you can't chase criminals?!?! Asinine! May you have a long and prosperous career, brother. Take care of yourself so you aren't crippled up upon retiring.
i like philias policy beat cops don't usually do pursuits they follow and turn pursuit to what is called highway patrol has 2 sect interstates and a roaming patrol who circulate through the city . when there were high powered cars they had them district cars at one time 6 cyl 2 door cars until the marked changed and patrol vans hauled arrested hospital cases and were 2 person and did patrol too
i don't understand your language, so i don't understand what happened in the video i use translator. What crimes had these people committed to be chased and killed by the police?@@H43339
The state is more concerned about a law suit than the safety of their officers and citizens. I believe if I were from that state, i would vote everyone out of office that voted for this ridiculous policy.
It is such a joke here its hard to believe. This place is a criminal sanctuary. We need to get these liberal freak nutcases out of here and get some law and order for crying out loud.
@@Sklounst_Actual you don’t think the criminals put both at risk everyday. There are many reasons for pursuing: murder suspect, kidnappings, assaults, sexual assaults and so on. I travel a great deal on the roads and highways, every day I see people driving 90 to 100+ same as pursuits. Why don’t you advocate for those people to be severely punished so law enforcement doesn’t have the chase. A few years ago I might have 1-3 people pass me at high speeds on a two to three hour drive, now it’s the norm. You can’t fight a war without casualties but I hope the casualty is the perp and not the LEO. I think a LEO should b able to pit as soon as they start to run to prevent long chases but others don’t agree.
@@user-peach408 Yeah, pursuits should be ended with a PIT (or grappler) as soon as possible. I'm not arguing that one way is necessarily always better. And a murder suspect should be pursued for sure. There are also alternative methods, like GPS darts
Welcome to Minnesota, A criminal's paradise. Please be advised our local police department cannot pursue you if you choose to run from us. Feel free to do so if it will help you stay out of jail. Always remember were here to protect and serve you.
That's alright for 95% of cases because the police already have their license plate number and can then get a warrant for their arrest at home or work.
did we watch the chase police chase video? I don't know what you watched. this video had a police chase and the bad guy got shot to death, is that the same video?
I will never understand why agencies allow officers to seat people in their passenger seat, let alone without a search of their person. Also, any agency will a flat no pursuit policy might as well stop being law enforcement. If all people have to do is run away you're not enforcing anything.
This no pursuit policy became popular over the last 5-10 years now. As a result.....more people now run from the police....strange huh? The U.S Supreme Court made an interesting ruling on pursuits in 2007 with Scott v Harris, which basically states that Law Enforcement is duty bound to chase if someone does not stop. However, in Law Enforcement, the people who get promoted are usually the ones with little to no experience, education, training, or knowledge. It is still a good ol boys club to the core or blatant favoritism and nepotism. One could even successfully argue that having experience, education, and training actually reduces ones chances of promoting. This is the main problem in Law Enforcement today.
@@BreckoniousMaximus I've been a cop since the mid 90s and you are exactly correct. Litigation timid "leadership" just finds it easier to handcuffs cops and issue blanket no chase policies. What I hope to see in the coming years is lawsuits against agencies who break off chases and suspects who continue to drive recklessly and kill people. It boggles the mind that you would watch someone drive away recklessly and not stop, and just let them shoot off into the public like a bullet with no lights or sirens behind them to warn the public.
This is why our car thefts have increased expeditionary and the cops(no fault of their own, just doing what they are told) can't pursue. We are sickened by it too. 3 attempts on my Hyundai, the one parked right next to mine was taken by the same punk @ss bitches that tore up my car.
Unless you haven't figured it out, showing the firearm discharge could see the video de-monetized at the least and outright taken down at worst. RUclips is becoming far more strict on violent content.
@@pipfpv7489 It's pretty rudimentary that you can only deduce that statement from reading my comment. I'll stick to what I normally follow and support.
Funny how you leave quite a bit out.Full video shows that the tickets were issued there by ending the traffic stop officer had no legal authority to extend the stop for a search after tickets were issued. There is plenty of context left out.
He risked his worthless life because otherwise the rest of it would be spent in jail. He's lying that he just met the guy. They're associates in the drug trade. When associates in the drug trade run into cops they never know each other. Plausible deniability so they don't snitch each other out.
This whole thing was a cluster X from the beginning. The driver should have been placed in cuffs. Then they eventually let the driver get back in the car ! ! ! !!!!!!!! They should have got the keys from the vehicle as soon as they had their suspicions. This was shoddy police work.
Especially if they knew they cannot pursue, should have taken extra measures to make sure it does not turn into a pursuit. Worked out well, but lots of lessons.
A critical takeaway from this video is the value of persistence and strategic thinking by the officers, which ultimately led to the successful apprehension of the suspects despite numerous challenges during the pursuit.
What's up with this State Police "no pursue" policy ? Isn't it rather rare in the US to not pursue unless there's too much traffic or danger to the public ?
If they pull you over for say no seat belt and they have you on the side of the road and they know your name ran your plate and have GPS tracking you they figure a high speed chase may add some level of danger to it. Like lets say a family of three get killed they would be upset that the guy or the officer who killed them was in a high speed chase over a seat belt infraction. It is as likely that there would be no drugs nor guns in 90% of these stops. Even here were not told how much drugs were found. Was it a joint? Was it a Kilo of heroin? Why did the old hippy guy pull his gun out but not shoot? Why would he not ram police to get away? He seemed pretty careful not to use his car to ram theirs.
That swerve was clean af! Say what you want bout ol buddy but you cant say he couldn't drive! 😂😂😂 He would have lost them if they weren't tracking him already.
"I can't pursue!" Nothing like tying the hands of the cops! MN State Patrol admin is so afraid of liability. The admin actually puts civilians and other cops in greater danger by not letting their cops go after criminals. I am sure that trooper felt like sh-- for being forced to be such a lame back up to the deputy. SMH
In December 2020, after a major police review, New Zealand Police staff were told a pursuit was only justified when the threat posed by the vehicle prior to failing to stop, and the necessity to immediately apprehend the driver and/or passengers, outweighed the risk of harm created by the pursuit. Data released shows that after the policy change and over the same period the number of fleeing driver incidents almost doubled from 4846 - in the 12 months prior - to 9499 in the 12 months to November 2022.. The policy also states a pursuit is to be abandoned once an offender's identity becomes known and apprehension may be affected later, so long as there is no immediate threat to staff or public safety. The number of incidents where the offender was not immediately identified increased from 2419 to 6412. The police said the increases were likely due to the change in policy.... 👮🏽 No shit. They are revising and amending the policy again this year : “We know there is a desire for change and a perception that offenders are more brazen and more willing to take risks with their driving behavior,” Police Commissioner Coster said. “The revisions will bring us back to a more balanced position, while still prioritizing the safety of officers and the public.”
As some from NZ your correct but in places that are packed like Wellington city it’s easy for the suspect to hit other cars and kill/injure civilians so I rather let them get away and we catch them later than kill or injure kids or adults or any damage to property. :)
Well done to the Officers, and thank God the Officers didn’t get hurt. Fortunately one scumbag with the weapon lost his life, and other scumbags captured. 👍🏻👍🏻
- exactly same I wondered too -Not having the phone number, as well as the car tag, is not linked to the vehicle details; so I assume they check what GPS signal is geographically present around the car/person's location; and from there, any GPS devices displayed in that location will be a tract on where they're moving. - Something like that. But maybe they already have some other information about the suspects, and not so sophisticated to trace him/them.
At the beginning of the video it states that the WCDTF informed the Minnesota State Patrol that the vehicle may have been transferring illegal narcotics. They probably had a bug on the car.
My guess would be they tracked someone's cell phone signal via GPS. If the had a warrant they can obtain that information. Not to stupid criminals if you're going to do something illegal turn off the location tracking on yr phone. That's one of the ways they used to track Bryan Kroenberger the mass murder from Idaho.
@@mattd3993 Shush up? Really? Clearly to you, cops can do no wrong... unless of course it affects you in a bad way! If these criminals ended up killing your family in the ensuing chase, you'd lose every ounce of sympathy you have! Doctor's oath: First, do no harm. Police officer's oath: Don't make it so damned easy that an old man with a limp, driving a car full of drugs, can hobble back to the car and drive off!
I wish they'd said what the drugs were and how much. And I wish I knew how they got the tip. They were obviously set up. Guy was likely a career criminal who'd spent most of his adult life in jail and would spent the rest had he not gone the blaze of glory route, like some combination of Louis in Jackie Brown and George Jung in Blow.
@@supme7558 a lot are now in many states... the problem is a lot of these drugs and deadly drugs are coming from other countries. If you make drugs legal they have to be regulated so you know people dont die from overdoses or whatever is in them...
Absolute B.S. Tell the truth. The trooper could not initiate a pursuit because he positively knew the identity of the driver. So, he let the other officer do his dirty work. Just another example of dirty cops covering for dirty cops!
@SylasNigel can sometimes be as simple as getting the driver to remove them and put the on the roof hood or back seat...of give them to the cop to place them on the bonnet..
Hahaha old man just walked right back to the car so confident that he had exactly what was going to happen in mind. That’s crazy lol , brave AF old birds
Doesn't sound plausible. If that were the case, they likely wouldn't be initiating a stop there to begin with, and "Res rules" would apply to the County as well as the State cop. No, sounds more like some post-2020 woke policing rules passed at the state level to appease the "Defund the Police"/ BLM/ ANTIFA crowd. Pay attention, wakeup, and develop more than a short-term memory!
@@riyoszu It's worth the criticism. They're letting criminals get away with this stuff just because they're on a reservation... The Indians that live on the reservation need to step up and take over the pursuit in cases like this. Crazy how we'll let the Indians harbor fugitives legally if they're on "their land" but nobody else is allowed to break laws or harbor fugitives on their personal land... They're just living up to their stereotypes every day
Stop stick guy had to feel like a putz. I bet they get shit when they miss. I'd love to be stop stick cop, seems like that'd be one of the more fun jobs. I sure wouldn't wanna be the cop chasing these guys on 2 lane roads at 120 mph.
@@markstone1619 yep in my experience they are stupid motherfuckers. Almost got in a head on collision because a cop threw one out at a car on a busy highway.
OMG, seems like a Cluster F, can you imagine what Active Self Protection would say about the mistakes these Officers made? Holy Crap, all it takes is common sense. Mind blowing.
Yes, it was insane at best. What law Enforcement Officer, affecting a traffic stop, especially after receiving a B.OL.O, from another agency, regarding a said vehicle transporting drugs. Wow, I couldn't believe what I was watching, you talk about being Complacent at best.
@@thomasjones2071 I don't agree with many of the tactics used, but when you are notified by a drug taskforce regarding a vehicle loaded with drugs, you are to develop your own probable cause for the stop and investigate as if you never received any information, just like any other self initiated traffic stop. Do some research on "wall stops" and you will understand better. You want it to remain as low key as possible to "protect" a larger investigation by not alarming the "smaller fish" developed from the investigation. LEO for 30 years, 6 of those working major narcotics trafficking.
@@pJ-us2vlthe people were pulled over for no reason that should be allowed just becuase they suspect somthing dosnt give them the right to pull someone over, and then saying it looked like they where on drugs is no reason to search or do anyrhing. With a good lawyer they wont do anytime and for good reason these cops are abusive psychos.
A wasted life and sad outcome for this old guy, what do you expect to happen waving a gun when surrounded by police with guns pointing at you ??? Has he had enough of life ?... and if so, why take a car full of people with you ? Peoples lives are becoming less and less valuable to themselves, in this current world it seems.
@@TeddyBear-ii4yc ballsy is when you have a fighting chance to survive…..drawing a gun….after a chase and with everyone pointing a gun at you while adrenaline is pumping….that is ….well….stupid….as the outcome was predictable……he died ……
They didn't EXACTLY lose the vehicle, but they definitely lost sight temporarily. They chose to stop chasing. What I wonder about is the "tacked via GPS" part. HOW?! Did they attach a GS device or is there something else at play? Was it a rented car?
It was a drug sting. The county tagged the car during the investigation. Grandpa was being watched. They knew he had drugs and asked troopers to assist and stop the vehicle.
shouldn't the 3 survivors also have been charged with murder since the driver died while all 4 were in the act of committing a felony by transporting drugs?
Meanwhile, the Minnesota State Trooper went back to the barracks, punched out, bought a pizza on the way home, and watched the Vikings take on the Bears.
Let me get this straight: In Minnesota, the state cops will casually interview possibly armed and dangerous drug runners in the front seat of the cruiser, then the geezer with a limp managed to get away in the wink of an eye, but the State Patrol can't pursue and the sheriff's deputies drive Explorers that can't catch a cold, let alone a Chevy Cruze? Arkansas would like a word with you.
The critical incident involving the Minnesota State Trooper underscores the ongoing challenges law enforcement officers face in maintaining public safety. This incident serves as a stark reminder of the risks officers encounter daily while protecting communities. It also highlights the importance of rigorous training and support systems to ensure officers can effectively navigate high-pressure situations
It was pretty clear and pointed out that these four gentleman were already being tracked before the stop. In fact, the stop occurred at the request of another agency I believe.
4:27 "with the suspects completely disregarding the stopped school bus" he says as the "suspects" pass two other cars one lane over as they are "completely disregarding the stopped school bus" as well. Don't lie and exaggerate to score points for your bias.
There's been 60 fatalities from high speed pursuits in Michigan over the last five years according to Grand Rapids Press. They're doing fine. This video was from Minnesota.
I wonder how many of the bad guys in this video were out on parole, probation, or served partial or light sentences for their criminal histories. These guys certainly were NOT young inexperienced, teens or beginners in their lifes of crime. All of them should have been kept in prison until they either died in prison or until they got so old that they couldn't do any harm to anyone but themselves.
I dont understand why people pull guns in front of police expecting to escape alive... I guess the old man wanted to part this way. Sad! his driving skill was something.
Basically don't let the competition know what you're up too...they're the ones who are gonna dime you to the cops. Which - imo - is what happened here.
So you can't question someone who is in custody without reading them their Miranda rights. If you put them in the front seat without cuffs and tell them they're free to leave, you don't have to read them their rights because they're not in custody. Some people clam up and think they are going to jail and stop talking when they read their rights; therefore, the police would rather keep them out of custody while investigating.
@@jamesburton1050 Here’s my understanding: Why pursue if you can just pick up the person later at their house? I think the latter poses less risk to the public. (And that’s what they ultimately did … tracked and waited to engage in a more rural location, I think…)
(As a matter of policy, this channel generally does not show the discharge of a weapon.) But that's the best part. At least give us a link to someplace like Police Activity so we can see the whole thing.
Two old dudes in a Chevy Cruze? Yeah, a real danger to society. What was the result of the chase? These cops ended up murdering the elderly driver. And you're on here supporting the murderers.
From what it sounds like that deputey was a rookie, typically they have a 1 year probational period in which they cannot engage in pursuits, thats why he had to be given permission and showed up after the first pit.
Minnesota State Police: "We can't chase you"
Arkansas State Police: "We will chase you to Hell and a little further"
far-left state, give it to the Russians!
Arkansas State Police are reckless.
@@dannmarceau Stop crying.
@@dannmarceau*badass
Arkansas don't play, and they do the best pit maneuver.
I love how the old man just casually hobbled over and took off
@ligmaballz1, but little did he know it was the last time he would...
Wasn't haven't it ?
@@zenithperigee7442 He probably did. Hes old enough that one could imagine he just said fuck it and decided the risk was better than dying in prison.
Such a comically slow take off as well
He died though.
Never allow a suspect to return to the vehicle until the traffic stop is completely over. They can have weapons in the vehicle, or flee, or both.
@AlexJonesWasRight1776 bro huh your dad’s a terrible cop
@@10toppers no his dad was a good officer protecting himself and the citizens.
I thought the same 👍🏿👻
@@Asidebar punching someone for asking a question is actual lunacy and the man should be charged
Tôi nghĩ còng họ lại là đủ rồi còn đắm họ thì không nên, nếu để hắn chạy thì thật là nguy hiểm cho những người đang lưu thông trên đường vì hắn có thể gây ra tai nạn cho những người vô tội một cách đáng tiếc.
That was the slowest attempt to get in a car i ever seen. a snail could move faster.
He almost stopped to light another cigarette
Minnesotans can't drive for shit above 75mph
White privilege
He didn’t strike me as in any particular hurry. But I’ll give it to you that was likely still his top speed. Guys got two gears park or a high idle.
@@chasjetty8729 Bro you funny you deserve 1000 likes
It’s embarrassing and shameful that a STATE AGENCY can’t chase an assault on an officer suspect. Wow. Just wow.
@KevTech1 This guy assaulted a cop, that's good enough for sane people.
@@kevincourtney7312 They keep setting the bar for "small crimes" higher and higher. Assault on an officer non-pursuable is asinine.
@@raveporn "what if what if what if". Fuk off. This is an illegally armed man with a firearm drug-dealer with intent to harm, and all you care about is "what if accident happened D:" I don't care about what if, I care about reality. Reality is, this dangerous drug-dealing illegally armed individual isn't a threat to anyone anymore. I'm so sick of laws being put into place on "what if" scenarios. Live in reality, not in your head.
@@raveporn What should police pursue for then?
What are you guys talking about? They DID chase them....
After the pit and the car spun, I can't believe the other officer didn't hurry forward to block the car.
Yeah don’t live in Minnesota - if that’s how they police???? Well no police needed then. SMH. I’m floored how poorly they responded or failed to perform
That was absurd, these guys put other officers in danger later on. SMH
He wasnt allowed too. It’s against their policy
Which is the dumbest thing ever lol how can you not pursue?!
Said the same thing, come on really?......
That is the most asinine pursuit policy I’ve ever heard of.
@@littlebob1261 he physically assaulted an officer and fled form a traffic stop. Im sure if the old man struck your mom crossing the street you'd be crying from the hilltops asking why the police didnt stop them. why not just make it illegal for officers to stop cars period. Matter of fact, why not just get rid of the police all together..I mean, theyre ALL evil right? illhain Omar sure seems to think its a great idea.
@@littlebob1261 - that not only allows criminals to destroy evidence it gives them time to harm others.
@@littlebob1261you can just not open your door. Or run again. Endless cycle. Also everybody is going to be speeding away if this is the case. And these fucknuts get to do their crime while the popo get that ‘warrant’
@@littlebob1261 By letting armed and dangerous suspects flee? No, that is not how that works.
@@SG-us4gzok, let’s dumb it down. Let’s say they flee, and they peruse. Now let’s say they’re going 100+ and they hit a vehicle with an entire family in it. Nobody’s trying to let criminals get away or destroy evidence. They’re trying to avoid any preventable deaths that can and have occurred because of pursuits.
Incompetence:
1. Did not handcuff the driver when he got him out of the car.
2. Did not put the driver in back.
3. Did not get the keys
4. Did not ram the vehicle, numerous times, when it was moving at low speed.
Their negligence, and other officers failure to ram stop the vehicle put children, other road users lives at risk and ultimately cost the lives of the perps.
WTF!!!!????????? Anyone going to get disciplined for this appallingly pathetic police work?
Ukraine failed ☹️
@@kaecake9575 2.5 years into NotCee Ruzzias war.thye have failed. They are drunks and war criminals. Go to school Ivan and get off the booze.
womp womp
Liberals running law enforcement
@@kaecake9575 Doesn't seem like it, Russia hasn't made any significant moves on Ukraine these past few months... And now Ukraine has launched assaults in Russia?
orc.
First cop is kinda lucky, old dude he had in his front seat had that pistol in his waistband the entire time it appears...
a pat down is important!
I must admit that old guy could drive.. not to many can lose a cop in a chase.
He's been doing stuff like this for most of his life, is my guess.
Not anymore he can't.
It wasn’t that the old man was good, these cops were just ass. They had every opportunity to stop him but they fumbled every one.
see how he avoids spike strip? insane.
Something was wrong in his head though, to pull a gun when he is surrounded by police was just unbelievably stupid.
What kind state agency can’t pursue? I understand some departments have policies where you can’t pursue unless it’s for a violent felony but I’ve never seen a state police agency that doesn’t allow pursuits.
Minnesota, the home of "Defund the Police"
@@MisterW0lfe Completely agree, this is the motto for that state, surprised they allowed the officers to pursue.
A liberal state, thats who
@@ryanfarmer5155 Naw, one that has a policy if you ID the suspect and it's a non violent felony you don't put the public in danger with a 100 mph chase, You know who it is, you get a warrant and go to his house. I'm sorry logic breaks an insurrectionists head
are you telling me you really dont know who's politically in charge of running that state? let me give you a hint, they despise the police and love criminals..
I am always amazed they think for 1 second they could get out of that situation by fleeing the police.
156 people living in the community. I wouldn’t even chase them, broski.
This guy almost did though!
@@timothyhh They could get out during that pursuit, yes, but what I meant is, they will eventually be caught one way or another, sooner or later, they will find him... Unless he successfully flee to Venezuela.
Y'know, I suppose by the time you reach the age of the driver there isn't really much incentive to surrender when you're just going to wind up in jail for whatever is left of your life.
He was only 27 years old.
Don't do drugs kids!! 😅
dude got a wind slap at 1:53 and almost got knocked out... what a shame
@@oteimoto85 LOL
@@oteimoto85 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
An OG?
If the officer wasn’t so intent on getting the occupant out of the passenger’s front seat of the car, he would have been able to stop the big old driver from getting back in the car and taking off. The driver was limping but the officer had tunnel vision so he missed the great opportunity he had to avoid the car chase and possibly save the life of the other suspect.
I'm sorry but the other suspect got what was coming to him. If it wasn't this instance it would've been another. Can't prevent complete stupidity
The suspect is better off dead
If a grandma had moustache, she would have been a grandpa.
The other channels showed the shooting... there's no reason not to...it only showed the officer shooting, not the body after..... Either way. it was stupid for State patrol to not be allowed to pursue, once they take off, it's a felony to flee law enforcement... plus it's more dangerous to the sheriff to go off on his own.
Minnesota law man. Sometimes I think Minnesota is part of Canada.
@@mikerodgers7620rest in pizz to your dead cop friends 😂
@@mikerodgers7620 High jacked in the mid 90s by gaypride & Co.
They really shouldnt chase, its a huge risk to the public and property. Follow them home with a helicopter and perform a isolated arrest.
@@yeeyee5328 you don't buy helicopters at Walmart.
God bless our officers. I am a nurse in an ER and deal with the MN state troopers and local law enforcement often. They are always first class, with the patience of saints...more than myself at times sad to say.
How the hell did cops "track them with GPS" ?! That is against the Constitution!
Finally somebody who has an opinion that’s worth something.
Try being British. Then you might have a point. It's hell in this hole
you must not work with the thief river falls guys then.
@@nathanblack3971 speak english
Unbelievable the reaction of the old driver , he must be a escape driver in the past.
He is dead now.
It sure looks like it, but now he's out of a job.
@@caledoniawarrioryes, it was the two joints that did him in. Not the gun aimed at police.
Ask for the keys when conducting an investigation like this
Very good point
As a RFLEO, I absolutely don't understand why the LEO that had the driver go back to his cruiser without searching him first. I understand that every situation is different, yet that mistake alone could have caused the officer his life. Never have a suspect detained, regardless of offense not patted down beforehand.
The can't pursuit policy is insane imho. What's next? Only one bullet permitted per bad guy shooting at you? I understand the reasons with liability of pursuits. With that situation, they should use a cut down version of spikes placed both directions on suspect vehicle. Each state has citizens rights, yet in a drug operation those rights should be eliminated imho. There's no doubt legal issues with that, yet its common sense. At the very least, get the keys.
You never conduct a possible felony stop involving 4 suspects alone. If there's a BOLO n suspects of drug trafficking, get backup first. No cowboy stuff, its far too dangerous, especially with suspects knowing being arrested will mean a long sentence with firearms n drug trafficking. Where's DHS in all this?
@@tyclark8162as a retired LEO, I see little problem with bringing him back to the car. He’s not going to get a better jump on you compared to both of you being outside talking. I’ve heard that officer safety search for decades, but it isn’t particularly rational. What’s the difference patting him down before he goes in your car versus when you first get him out? Nothing. The difference having him in your car is negligible risk wise.
The benefits of bringing them back to the squad are huge. It’s far easier to pick up odors of alcohol or drugs. You’ve also taken them further away from their primary escape route and any potential weapons close at hand in the vehicle. As long as you’re moderately skilled in hand to hand, you can have control of the suspect while having limited the ease of his other options. Lastly, you’ve provided additional separation between the suspect and anyone else in the vehicle.
I'm pretty impressed 8 shots fired, the guy with the gun was taken out, a passenger was only hit once with 4 people in the car. That seems like pretty good shooting.
Unless you're the passenger that got shot.
@@loomspaceplay stupid games win stupid prizes. They had every opportunity when they were stopped to get out of the damn car. Stopped the first time**
@@jenellenelson4447Cool flex bro
@@loomspace who cares
@@loomspace it's okay, if it makes you feel better to make zero sense, go all the way off buddy!
Lack of training really gets exposed under stressful moments.
spoken like a true guy, on the internet
guilty as charged, sir@@GusDubetz
@@GusDubetz yep arm chair quarterback here too, and they definitely showed signs of lack of tataical precision in a close quarters fire fight or coordination and training in felony take downs, not to mention unskilled pit execution and spike strip deployment.. .but they did shoot a unarmed man and kill the driver in the end...that was a bad day for everyone involved 🤔
@@johnnyo5993 Actually, you can start way before that when they didn't take the driver's keys and allowed the old man to hobble back to the car and drive off. Policing 101: Don't make it so easy that an old man with a limp driving a car full of drugs can simply get back in the car and escape!
@@Finians_Mancave yes sir very good point...an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure as my grandma would say 👍
The trooper saying he can't pursue is probably fresh out the academy and on a one year probationary period during which time he cannot engage in pursuit. Atleast that's how it was for me when I became a sheriff's deputy.
finally the first plausible explanation I could find on here. everyone else just presumes and blurts out "waaaa far-left waaaaaa" while investigating nothing beforehand. it's kind of gross how quick people in this country stoop to that level; politics has become a mental disease.
I was thinking it's possible that because of the type of stop and because it was set up by what looks like a multi state but is at least a multi county entity, there may be policy or rules around that.
I also think there could be a policy stopping regular law enforcement from intervention past a traffic stop because too many times have regular beat cops been used to stop vehicles in high profile drug cases and ending up with them dead. So there might be a law or policy saying you can use our cops for the stop but nothing further. And since sheriff's are elected and their deputies are appointed, they might have completely different policy on the matter. Or none at all.
Idk. Just guessing. Could be a probationary thing though.
That is about the dumbest policy I have ever heard in my career! You can pack a gun and take away the freedom of people, but you can't chase criminals?!?! Asinine! May you have a long and prosperous career, brother. Take care of yourself so you aren't crippled up upon retiring.
i like philias policy beat cops don't usually do pursuits they follow and turn pursuit to what is called highway patrol has 2 sect interstates and a roaming patrol who circulate through the city . when there were high powered cars they had them district cars at one time 6 cyl
2 door cars until the marked changed and patrol vans hauled arrested hospital cases and
were 2 person and did patrol too
Take care Rick be safe use your best judgement and whatever policy that allows you and others to be safe follow it.
1:48 The sheer incompetence in allowing the guy to get back in his car with the keys is staggering.
but what crime had those people committed to be chased by the police? Died ?
@@fonziygor8585You can't be serious. You are kidding right. Unbelievable !!
i don't understand your language, so i don't understand what happened in the video i use translator. What crimes had these people committed to be chased and killed by the police?@@H43339
@@fonziygor8585 How about drug dealing out of your car for starters? Cops knew there was a 99% chance that these men were smuggling and selling drugs.
@@fonziygor8585 They fled from the police... and then pointed a gun at the officers....
Imagine being a criminal. “ All I have to do is flee. They can’t pursue me.” WTF?!
The state is more concerned about a law suit than the safety of their officers and citizens. I believe if I were from that state, i would vote everyone out of office that voted for this ridiculous policy.
It is such a joke here its hard to believe. This place is a criminal sanctuary. We need to get these liberal freak nutcases out of here and get some law and order for crying out loud.
@@user-peach408 You don't think pursuits put citizens and LEO at great risk?
@@Sklounst_Actual you don’t think the criminals put both at risk everyday. There are many reasons for pursuing: murder suspect, kidnappings, assaults, sexual assaults and so on. I travel a great deal on the roads and highways, every day I see people driving 90 to 100+ same as pursuits. Why don’t you advocate for those people to be severely punished so law enforcement doesn’t have the chase. A few years ago I might have 1-3 people pass me at high speeds on a two to three hour drive, now it’s the norm. You can’t fight a war without casualties but I hope the casualty is the perp and not the LEO. I think a LEO should b able to pit as soon as they start to run to prevent long chases but others don’t agree.
@@user-peach408 Yeah, pursuits should be ended with a PIT (or grappler) as soon as possible. I'm not arguing that one way is necessarily always better. And a murder suspect should be pursued for sure. There are also alternative methods, like GPS darts
Welcome to Minnesota, A criminal's paradise. Please be advised our local police department cannot pursue you if you choose to run from us. Feel free to do so if it will help you stay out of jail. Always remember were here to protect and serve you.
Hate to burst your bubble, but a lot of states are making this the norm. If the state isn't, a whole lotta precincts are making this their policy.
turns out they tracked him without pursuing the whole time.
@@intro510 Do you know how they did that?
That's alright for 95% of cases because the police already have their license plate number and can then get a warrant for their arrest at home or work.
did we watch the chase police chase video? I don't know what you watched. this video had a police chase and the bad guy got shot to death, is that the same video?
I will never understand why agencies allow officers to seat people in their passenger seat, let alone without a search of their person.
Also, any agency will a flat no pursuit policy might as well stop being law enforcement. If all people have to do is run away you're not enforcing anything.
but racism..
@@spraguedawleythe best excuse to get a ticket out of jail card.
This no pursuit policy became popular over the last 5-10 years now. As a result.....more people now run from the police....strange huh? The U.S Supreme Court made an interesting ruling on pursuits in 2007 with Scott v Harris, which basically states that Law Enforcement is duty bound to chase if someone does not stop. However, in Law Enforcement, the people who get promoted are usually the ones with little to no experience, education, training, or knowledge. It is still a good ol boys club to the core or blatant favoritism and nepotism. One could even successfully argue that having experience, education, and training actually reduces ones chances of promoting. This is the main problem in Law Enforcement today.
@@BreckoniousMaximus I've been a cop since the mid 90s and you are exactly correct. Litigation timid "leadership" just finds it easier to handcuffs cops and issue blanket no chase policies. What I hope to see in the coming years is lawsuits against agencies who break off chases and suspects who continue to drive recklessly and kill people. It boggles the mind that you would watch someone drive away recklessly and not stop, and just let them shoot off into the public like a bullet with no lights or sirens behind them to warn the public.
This is why our car thefts have increased expeditionary and the cops(no fault of their own, just doing what they are told) can't pursue. We are sickened by it too. 3 attempts on my Hyundai, the one parked right next to mine was taken by the same punk @ss bitches that tore up my car.
Thank you for informing us of this with footage. Lame that you can not show the firearms discharge! We all are adults here...
adults who use the term "lame"? nice try kid ;)
Unless you haven't figured it out, showing the firearm discharge could see the video de-monetized at the least and outright taken down at worst. RUclips is becoming far more strict on violent content.
@cyclonicleo I see that PoliceActivity doesn't shy away from the graphic nature of reality.
@@pipfpv7489 It's pretty rudimentary that you can only deduce that statement from reading my comment. I'll stick to what I normally follow and support.
@nedkelly3436 They care about monetization, and maybe it's edited for TV also. I appreciate your rational comment.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the school bus was probably just pulled over because the driver heard the police sirens coming.
Exactly !!!. The commentary in the vid made no sense
Congratulations to these courageous cops who put their lives on the line everyday to protect us all from this evil.
The timing of the thumbnail is impressive.
If this was a movie it'd be called "Last of the Baby Boomers."
It seems that the fleeing vehicle eventually managed to fix the broken rear bumper caused by the pit.
He's fleeing the interview! He's fleeing the interview!
@scottschartz9394 - LOL! I was thinking the same.
If you are thinking that you are wrong.
@@ftdefiance1 do you get the reference?
@@ftdefiance1 I'm thinking you should have bought that trucoat protection don't you know eh?
@@davidmack4495You betcha I do eh...
Funny how you leave quite a bit out.Full video shows that the tickets were issued there by ending the traffic stop officer had no legal authority to extend the stop for a search after tickets were issued. There is plenty of context left out.
I know him for about 7 hours but I am willing to risk my worthless life for him. Officer
He risked his worthless life because otherwise the rest of it would be spent in jail. He's lying that he just met the guy. They're associates in the drug trade. When associates in the drug trade run into cops they never know each other. Plausible deniability so they don't snitch each other out.
This whole thing was a cluster X from the beginning. The driver should have been placed in cuffs. Then they eventually let the driver get back in the car ! ! ! !!!!!!!! They should have got the keys from the vehicle as soon as they had their suspicions. This was shoddy police work.
Especially if they knew they cannot pursue, should have taken extra measures to make sure it does not turn into a pursuit. Worked out well, but lots of lessons.
Boggles my mind as well. Makes no sense
Incompetence idiots, there actions took his life.
didnt even do a pat down before letting him in his cruiser, even though they pulled him over because the drug task force had identified them.
A critical takeaway from this video is the value of persistence and strategic thinking by the officers, which ultimately led to the successful apprehension of the suspects despite numerous challenges during the pursuit.
What's up with this State Police "no pursue" policy ? Isn't it rather rare in the US to not pursue unless there's too much traffic or danger to the public ?
Possibly wasn't at a felony level or safety reasons due to the low level of crime committed
It's Minnesota. The only things the politicians love here more than taxes are criminals.
@YotaDougsToolandKnife drug trafficking is low level offense? What a world🤦♂️
@@grngrss265 Assault on an Officer isn’t, nor is Evading Police or Reckless Driving.
If they pull you over for say no seat belt and they have you on the side of the road and they know your name ran your plate and have GPS tracking you they figure a high speed chase may add some level of danger to it. Like lets say a family of three get killed they would be upset that the guy or the officer who killed them was in a high speed chase over a seat belt infraction.
It is as likely that there would be no drugs nor guns in 90% of these stops. Even here were not told how much drugs were found. Was it a joint? Was it a Kilo of heroin? Why did the old hippy guy pull his gun out but not shoot? Why would he not ram police to get away? He seemed pretty careful not to use his car to ram theirs.
Grandpa avoided the spike strips easy peasy 😂
But not the bullets. He got what he deserved.
That swerve was clean af! Say what you want bout ol buddy but you cant say he couldn't drive! 😂😂😂 He would have lost them if they weren't tracking him already.
As the saying goes: 'not his first rodeo's. But his last.
"I can't pursue!" Nothing like tying the hands of the cops! MN State Patrol admin is so afraid of liability. The admin actually puts civilians and other cops in greater danger by not letting their cops go after criminals. I am sure that trooper felt like sh-- for being forced to be such a lame back up to the deputy. SMH
Mais tu voie des soldats où toi, c'est juste des policiers !!!
Is it due to his individual training because it looks like a pursuit to me with the other cop driving
Why did this not be on the news. Wrong color?
In December 2020, after a major police review, New Zealand Police staff were told a pursuit was only justified when the threat posed by the vehicle prior to failing to stop, and the necessity to immediately apprehend the driver and/or passengers, outweighed the risk of harm created by the pursuit.
Data released shows that after the policy change and over the same period the number of fleeing driver incidents almost doubled from 4846 - in the 12 months prior - to 9499 in the 12 months to November 2022..
The policy also states a pursuit is to be abandoned once an offender's identity becomes known and apprehension may be affected later, so long as there is no immediate threat to staff or public safety. The number of incidents where the offender was not immediately identified increased from 2419 to 6412.
The police said the increases were likely due to the change in policy.... 👮🏽 No shit.
They are revising and amending the policy again this year : “We know there is a desire for change and a perception that offenders are more brazen and more willing to take risks with their driving behavior,” Police Commissioner Coster said.
“The revisions will bring us back to a more balanced position, while still prioritizing the safety of officers and the public.”
Very informative, thank you
And yet here in Queensland, QPS hasnt changed a single thing to their policy in over 15yrs despite rampant out of control crime and car theft.
Any stats on deaths of other road users in pursuits after change? I think that’s the main reason they changed the policy
Need a new police commissioner for starters.
As some from NZ your correct but in places that are packed like Wellington city it’s easy for the suspect to hit other cars and kill/injure civilians so I rather let them get away and we catch them later than kill or injure kids or adults or any damage to property. :)
Well done to the Officers, and thank God the Officers didn’t get hurt. Fortunately one scumbag with the weapon lost his life, and other scumbags captured. 👍🏻👍🏻
Dude ups a misdemeanor drug possession charge to a casket ride. Mind blowing.
Drug enforcement agents don't send tips on misdemeanor possession for personal use, these guys were moving weight.
How they got them on GPS?
- exactly same I wondered too -Not having the phone number, as well as the car tag, is not linked to the vehicle details; so I assume they check what GPS signal is geographically present around the car/person's location; and from there, any GPS devices displayed in that location will be a tract on where they're moving. - Something like that. But maybe they already have some other information about the suspects, and not so sophisticated to trace him/them.
At the beginning of the video it states that the WCDTF informed the Minnesota State Patrol that the vehicle may have been transferring illegal narcotics. They probably had a bug on the car.
@@BasedViking981 I doubt it. You need a warrant to put a tracker on a car. Doubt they had time for that.
@@BingBuddy That's not how GPS works. Receivers are completely passive. There's no signal to detect.
My guess would be they tracked someone's cell phone signal via GPS. If the had a warrant they can obtain that information. Not to stupid criminals if you're going to do something illegal turn off the location tracking on yr phone. That's one of the ways they used to track Bryan Kroenberger the mass murder from Idaho.
The bus was pulled over. Love how OP frames this as passing a bus lol
If these deputies cannot follow protocol and place people in handcuffs while LEAVING THE KEYS IN THE IGNITION...... Then get fired.
Oh shush up
@@mattd3993 Shush up? Really? Clearly to you, cops can do no wrong... unless of course it affects you in a bad way! If these criminals ended up killing your family in the ensuing chase, you'd lose every ounce of sympathy you have! Doctor's oath: First, do no harm. Police officer's oath: Don't make it so damned easy that an old man with a limp, driving a car full of drugs, can hobble back to the car and drive off!
Many cars don't have ignitions that use keys
He was only being questioned they didn't probable cause for an arrest, they were fishing for one and he voluntarily got in the car with the cop
Absolutely unbelievable that this is the vehicle suspected of illegal narcotics, and the cops send the guy back to his car🤯
Drugs should be leagle
I wish they'd said what the drugs were and how much. And I wish I knew how they got the tip. They were obviously set up. Guy was likely a career criminal who'd spent most of his adult life in jail and would spent the rest had he not gone the blaze of glory route, like some combination of Louis in Jackie Brown and George Jung in Blow.
@@supme7558 "Leagal"??? LOL, the drugs are showing how much they make you illiterate.
@@supme7558 a lot are now in many states... the problem is a lot of these drugs and deadly drugs are coming from other countries. If you make drugs legal they have to be regulated so you know people dont die from overdoses or whatever is in them...
Absolute B.S. Tell the truth. The trooper could not initiate a pursuit because he positively knew the identity of the driver. So, he let the other officer do his dirty work. Just another example of dirty cops covering for dirty cops!
Policy or no policy, you’re not gonna leave a fellow officer in a dangerous situation.
So many of these pursuits could be prevented if the cops took control/possession of the ignition keys at the start of the stop.
Thats true but, you would be going against the constitution. Its innocent until proven guilty.
That's not legal
So many of these could be avoided is people obeyed the law
@SylasNigel can sometimes be as simple as getting the driver to remove them and put the on the roof hood or back seat...of give them to the cop to place them on the bonnet..
Exactly as I just said after watching this rediculous video that a death could have been avoided!!!
That dude was quite the evasive driver with the stop sticks
I was impressed
Didn’t live for very long tho. One less sack of crap I have to worry about
I was open mouthed seeing him manage to dodge the stick trap 😮
Hahaha old man just walked right back to the car so confident that he had exactly what was going to happen in mind. That’s crazy lol , brave AF old birds
Brave vs. stupid. I'll go with stupid, as the old geezer is fertilizer now.
That wasn't "brave". That was suicidal.
@@Olle_Svenska Trump voters.
OG.
@@sidstovell2177 old geezer, for sure…
For everyone wondering why State police can't chase, they were in a different nation they weren't in Minnesota.
Recognized that right away. I work in that area. Whole different ball game on the res.
Doesn't sound plausible. If that were the case, they likely wouldn't be initiating a stop there to begin with, and "Res rules" would apply to the County as well as the State cop.
No, sounds more like some post-2020 woke policing rules passed at the state level to appease the "Defund the Police"/ BLM/ ANTIFA crowd. Pay attention, wakeup, and develop more than a short-term memory!
Oooooh thank you! Suddenly it makes sense. This comment needs to be stickied.
@@joshcarter-comit’s called “pinned” not “sticked” but that’s so true a lot of ppl are criticizing our state patrol
@@riyoszu It's worth the criticism. They're letting criminals get away with this stuff just because they're on a reservation... The Indians that live on the reservation need to step up and take over the pursuit in cases like this.
Crazy how we'll let the Indians harbor fugitives legally if they're on "their land" but nobody else is allowed to break laws or harbor fugitives on their personal land...
They're just living up to their stereotypes every day
How did y'all let this old man outdrive you like that? Multiple times I thought they had him and he just slips away so casually🤣🤯
ikr .....? Oh well, ... ol' greybeard smoked his last smoke! 8-D
Stop stick guy had to feel like a putz. I bet they get shit when they miss. I'd love to be stop stick cop, seems like that'd be one of the more fun jobs. I sure wouldn't wanna be the cop chasing these guys on 2 lane roads at 120 mph.
@@D-Fens_1632 I bet the stop stick cop can't chew gum and walk at the same time.
@@markstone1619 yep in my experience they are stupid motherfuckers. Almost got in a head on collision because a cop threw one out at a car on a busy highway.
oh pops, we'll miss your crazy stories at thanksgiving.
Some of these videos kill me with people not watching cross-fire. Everyone wants to be apart of it so bad they make mistakes.
Thank heavens you are here on youtube to educate them.
@@oldbatwit5102 He's not wrong though.
It's not clever to use a fellow officer as your backstop.
@@finbarrsaunders8688 Agreed. 4th rule of firearm safety: "Always know your target and what's beyond it"
Which is why when one of them friendly fires their own, I say they gave themselves the Darwin Award.
Darwin award is when you remove yourself from the gene pool, not someone else. Genius.
OMG, seems like a Cluster F, can you imagine what Active Self Protection would say about the mistakes these Officers made? Holy Crap, all it takes is common sense. Mind blowing.
Honestly, the crossfire was insane
@@tobyrichards6004 The first stop was a circus . Hey, lets let this guy wonder around and get back in the car..
Libtard cops probably
Yes, it was insane at best.
What law Enforcement Officer, affecting a traffic stop, especially after receiving a B.OL.O, from another agency, regarding a said vehicle transporting drugs.
Wow, I couldn't believe what I was watching, you talk about being Complacent at best.
@@thomasjones2071 I don't agree with many of the tactics used, but when you are notified by a drug taskforce regarding a vehicle loaded with drugs, you are to develop your own probable cause for the stop and investigate as if you never received any information, just like any other self initiated traffic stop. Do some research on "wall stops" and you will understand better. You want it to remain as low key as possible to "protect" a larger investigation by not alarming the "smaller fish" developed from the investigation. LEO for 30 years, 6 of those working major narcotics trafficking.
Clowns for letting the driver just get back in and drive away.
And we just keep saying that there was no other way to handle that situation outside of killing them
Like back off and surrounding the vehicle.
Another great video showing that stupidity comes out of every color, gender and age of person.
Shows tyranny. Guys just wanted to get high, peace officers couldn't allow it.
Some more than others
It appears the driver did not have to face the felony charges. For an old guy he was a good wheel man.
He also seemed a decent man; easy to talk to.
They should have just left the guy alone instead of beating everyone up forcing them to flee from the abusive cops.
@@pJ-us2vlthe people were pulled over for no reason that should be allowed just becuase they suspect somthing dosnt give them the right to pull someone over, and then saying it looked like they where on drugs is no reason to search or do anyrhing. With a good lawyer they wont do anytime and for good reason these cops are abusive psychos.
He made a wise choice. Death by gunfire as opposed to getting stomped and tased to death while in handcuffs.
He got off Scott free, off the earth that is.
A wasted life and sad outcome for this old guy, what do you expect to happen waving a gun when surrounded by police with guns pointing at you ??? Has he had enough of life ?... and if so, why take a car full of people with you ? Peoples lives are becoming less and less valuable to themselves, in this current world it seems.
Wow….the driver really had a death wish!
His wish came true! Society will be better off without him.
Good thing it was granted. Pity the rest didnt' get it as well.
It was a ballsy move... to whop out your gun, rack it and point it outside when surrounded by cops with weapons drawn! It's AKA 'suicide by cop'.
@@TeddyBear-ii4yc ballsy is when you have a fighting chance to survive…..drawing a gun….after a chase and with everyone pointing a gun at you while adrenaline is pumping….that is ….well….stupid….as the outcome was predictable……he died ……
Granted!
They didn't EXACTLY lose the vehicle, but they definitely lost sight temporarily. They chose to stop chasing. What I wonder about is the "tacked via GPS" part. HOW?! Did they attach a GS device or is there something else at play? Was it a rented car?
I wondered the same thing on how they were able to track it.
Just with...Plate number and ChevyStar GPS...
GM ONSTAR 💫🤩
It was a drug sting. The county tagged the car during the investigation. Grandpa was being watched. They knew he had drugs and asked troopers to assist and stop the vehicle.
@@tracieroberts6323 Ahh, that makes sense. I thought they just stopped s suspicious car. Thanks for the info.
Thanks to the officers for their bravery and saving the taxpayers money for ridding the world of this scumbag driver. Great job by all!!!
GREAT AUDIT MIKE BUT I MISSED THE BIT ABOUT WHY THEY WERE
FLYING THE "UNION JACK" BELOW THE CLEVELAND FLAG
The driver found a way to avoid all charges.
😆
😂
So the lesson is A) don't carry drugs and run from the police, or B) Don't Israeli Carry.
What’s “Israeli carry”? I want to make sure I never do that.
@@TheKingsJarl Magazine inserted, no round in the chamber.
Known him for a few hours…
Proceeds to give his entire health history.
shouldn't the 3 survivors also have been charged with murder since the driver died while all 4 were in the act of committing a felony by transporting drugs?
Meanwhile, the Minnesota State Trooper went back to the barracks, punched out, bought a pizza on the way home, and watched the Vikings take on the Bears.
That driver maneuvered those spikes like a pro!
Too bad for him he couldn't dodge bullets.
Let me get this straight: In Minnesota, the state cops will casually interview possibly armed and dangerous drug runners in the front seat of the cruiser,
then the geezer with a limp managed to get away in the wink of an eye, but the State Patrol can't pursue and the sheriff's deputies drive Explorers
that can't catch a cold, let alone a Chevy Cruze?
Arkansas would like a word with you.
Minnesota, like Wisconsin, is not gifted with many top rated police (and the courts are quite soft with offenders, too).
Arkansas has the 5th highest violent crime rate in the US. Clearly the Arkansas police are not a great example to follow.
You've missed the point entirely@@TheEagleofSteel
That guy moved like The Flash back into the drivers seat!
He just knew he was finna snatch off
The critical incident involving the Minnesota State Trooper underscores the ongoing challenges law enforcement officers face in maintaining public safety. This incident serves as a stark reminder of the risks officers encounter daily while protecting communities. It also highlights the importance of rigorous training and support systems to ensure officers can effectively navigate high-pressure situations
How did they track it thru gps? Thru the manufacturer? Lowjack?
It was pretty clear and pointed out that these four gentleman were already being tracked before the stop. In fact, the stop occurred at the request of another agency I believe.
@@jasonhouck5641 At least someone was paying attention!! Great job Jason!!
ASP would have got them as soon as they took off!
ASP don’t mess around.
Who is asp?? Not green screen guy is it?
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WHAT IS AN ASP. A SNAKE?
4:27 "with the suspects completely disregarding the stopped school bus" he says as the "suspects" pass two other cars one lane over as they are "completely disregarding the stopped school bus" as well. Don't lie and exaggerate to score points for your bias.
Hilarious that the old guy just limped back to the car in full view of the cops - situation awareness needed
Are you kidding me?? Ole Gretch has you guys so hamstrung that you can't chase bad guys anymore?? WTF??
There's been 60 fatalities from high speed pursuits in Michigan over the last five years according to Grand Rapids Press. They're doing fine. This video was from Minnesota.
Well, with driver being out of pitcher that sure did save the taxpayers a lot of money.
Other RUclips channels are now showing the part of this video that Midwest Safety cut out so we can get a more clear picture of what happened
Which RUclips channel you come from. I heard about this from Barry cooper.
Parabéns aos policiais. That dude was quite the evasive driver with the stop sticks.
I wonder how many of the bad guys in this video were out on parole, probation, or served partial or light sentences for their criminal histories. These guys certainly were NOT young inexperienced, teens or beginners in their lifes of crime. All of them should have been kept in prison until they either died in prison or until they got so old that they couldn't do any harm to anyone but themselves.
in Minnesota nobody does hard time since 2015,👀our state go from: cosmic to crooked in 10 yrs, been here 70😢
the Lady cop did NOTHING
She did well. She avoided crossfire with the other officers.
She screamed "gun" a lot while watching dude point it at the other officers. More correct to say that she did nothing helpful.
She is actually the one that fired the 3 shots. The cop that pulled up next to her in the RAM is the one that fired the next 6.
I dont understand why people pull guns in front of police expecting to escape alive... I guess the old man wanted to part this way. Sad! his driving skill was something.
How did they track them via GPS? Big brother watches you
Maybe, but in this case, big brother watches them. They were already being tracked by a drug task force when they rolled into town. 0:07
How did they follow them with GPS after the initial chase was suspended?
good question, law enforcement has a lot of technology these days
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Maybe from their phone signal?
They can track you through you GPS on your car
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What device in your car besides a phone has a gps signature?
@@MustangsTrainsMowers if you have a GPS on your cars screen they can track you
Basically don't let the competition know what you're up too...they're the ones who are gonna dime you to the cops.
Which - imo - is what happened here.
Or, ya know, don’t be a scum bag and get smoked by some stud.
I will never understand why any cop would allow a potential criminal to sit in the front seat without handcuffs
So you can't question someone who is in custody without reading them their Miranda rights. If you put them in the front seat without cuffs and tell them they're free to leave, you don't have to read them their rights because they're not in custody. Some people clam up and think they are going to jail and stop talking when they read their rights; therefore, the police would rather keep them out of custody while investigating.
Plain stupid!!!!
'I fought the law, and the law won"
Now that tune will be in my head all day.
"I can't pursue". This is what you will get more of with Kamala.
You're ok with that chuckle-fuck cop engaging in high speed pursuits?
America 2023: the police aren’t allowed to pursue criminals
As specified in another comment, he's probably in a probationary period.
You aren't a criminal till you're convicted of a crime!
@@golden.lights.twinkle2329 No
When your cops say they can't pursue criminals the Cartel runs your State.
He politely got into the driver's seat & proceeded to leave.
He drove straight to a dead end.
I love when the story has a happy ending 😊
Yes it was wonderful, I'll sleep well tonight.
Question. Why was the trooper not allowed to pursue?
The trooper positively identified the suspect...
@@MidwestSafetyPlease show the charges and sentencing.
So the trooper won’t/ can’t assist an agency? 🙄
@@MidwestSafety positive ID means he can't do anything? I don't follow...
@@jamesburton1050 Here’s my understanding:
Why pursue if you can just pick up the person later at their house? I think the latter poses less risk to the public. (And that’s what they ultimately did … tracked and waited to engage in a more rural location, I think…)
(As a matter of policy, this channel generally does not show the discharge of a weapon.)
But that's the best part. At least give us a link to someplace like Police Activity so we can see the whole thing.
"i can't pursue" that is the nuttiest thing I have ever heard. I get it that sometimes you have to break it off but this seemed like one to go after
Two old dudes in a Chevy Cruze? Yeah, a real danger to society. What was the result of the chase? These cops ended up murdering the elderly driver. And you're on here supporting the murderers.
From what it sounds like that deputey was a rookie, typically they have a 1 year probational period in which they cannot engage in pursuits, thats why he had to be given permission and showed up after the first pit.
Exceptionally poor training and tactics by police. Turned a traffic stop into a Fast and Furious showdown!
Yes. This is Minnesota. Cops have been neutered.