Thank you!! I love the Playseat Trophy and this mod, plus adding bass shakers, rumble pedals and wind simulation. It is a bit on the heavy side with a direct drive wheel, but worth it.
Great video! I'm really surprised that Playseat doesn't pre-drill holes themselves. It makes so much more sense. Just like routing mountain bike cables inside a tubular frame.
Great video man! I'm new to sim racing and just purchased a used playseat trophy for $400. It's in very good condition, but I warn anyone that buys one of these to check the seating area really good underneath the velcro straps, because it's known to rip in that area. The trophy is definitely worth it if you can find one at a good price but just be aware and if you do find it to be ripped, I'd just see if the seller is willing to take some money off. The good thing is that it can be fixed but you have to find a semtress to beef it up which I'm in the process of doing.
@@DigitalRelay From what I've been told they don't, which is a real shame because there's definitely a lot of people online who've stated that they ended up with rips under the seat at some point. Unfortunately, I was unaware of this issue and didn't even look for it, and even though the guy that I bought it off of was cool at the time of purchase, he's dragging his feet on giving the needed information so I can try to get a replacement seat cover from playseat since it's still under warranty. I won't hold my breath though since I got it through fb marketplace. That's why I'll just get it repaired on my own. Still a great cockpit.
Yep. I reasoned that the holes are pretty much out of sight unless you are looking for them, and I spent a good amount of time filing to make sure they wouldn't damage cables. If I were a more patient man, grommets would have been good.
Someone in a reddit thread asked about structural integrity, so I'll paste my response here: I did some research on this before I started drilling. The wheel base isn't an issue, as it comes with a bunch of holes in it anyway. The tube piece that holds the frame sections together directly under the wheel base is thick aluminum and I didn't feel a 9/16" would affect its integrity. I also figured, worst case, I have to replace that piece. At the bottom of the frame, I made sure to drill on a straight section, and I went right where a bracket is welded thinking that would support it well. I really don't think the holes will lead to any problems. Roll bars and cages are often drilled for various reasons, such as drain holes in the bottom to let water out. It's a great point to bring up though. There is definitely no perceptible flex after drilling the holes.
Thank you! Yes, from normal viewing angles, you really don't see any cables. I have been adding more mods since this video, so there is more gear, and more cables, but I've done my best to keep the added cables hidden and everything clean. I'll have to do an update video since I've added wind simulation, bass shakers, rumble motors, and a gutted PS4 controller that I use as a headset interface on the PC.
Done the same thing couple if weeks ago but only now saw this video 😂 I used a 32 cone drill bit (we call them Christmas trees here in UK) Luckily my G pro wheels and pedals have long enough cables so didn't had to deal with all that
Man, excellent video! I’m definitely doing this, thank you! Even simply mounting the transformer under the pedal plate is ingenious.. that thing is annoying when you move the seat. 👍
Thanks for the comment!! I'm super happy with how clean things are, but I have to admit with the DD wheel, power supply, and two transducers, this thing is getting a little heavy for this old man! (Still worth it though)
I have the same fanatec sticker at the same place. I don’t have the tools and more importantly skills required to do what you did, but I have everything wrapped inside a cable shield and covers all cables, so my vacuum bot won’t eat it up😂
only thing i would do is allow for a bigger loop at the cable bend points to allow for less wear and tear, and maybe get a USB extender cable or USB hub to cover the extra distance but other than that this is an amazing idea, i might try this
All 3 cables had plenty of length to do a longer, wider bend, but I felt this was more than enough for stain relief and it looked as clean as possible. No need for USB extension as there is more than enough of a tail at the bottom to easily reach the PS5.
I have been thinking of doing this if I upgrade to the new ps 15nm. I think I will take it to my brothers engineering workshop and cut 2cm holes so can thread without stripping connectors
Looks great!!! Strange Playseat did not came with a solution to have the cables going thru the tube! How long do you have your seat now? I am thinking to buy one, but see some tear on the headrest and beside the headrest? Or is it just a light thing? I am looking for a good move around solution, as I have to take it from one room to the living room, and looking how to put some wheels on the Pedal plate area, so I can tilt it up and move around and put it tilt up in another room, due to space issue
I’ve not had tearing issues, but some areas wearing lighter. I bought it used about six months ago and love it. I thought about doing wheel too, but dragging on my floor works pretty well, and I don’t love it room to room often. If I really need to, I can hang it on bike hooks in a laundry room, but that’s pretty rare.
Can’t believe I’ve never seen your channel before😂 I’m here now let’s get you some subscribers. I appreciate your videos. Planning on shouting you out on some of my live streams. Currently waiting on the DD pro to be shipped hope it’s a smart upgrade from G29.
Thank you so much!! The DD Pro is a massive upgrade from the G29. I still have my G29 at my girlfriend's house, so I go back and forth on the rigs occasionally. The difference is night and day. I can still drive on the G29 rig, but it takes a little while to adjust to it, and if I happen to start to slide, it's super difficult to save it on the G29. DD feels really natural to save those moments.
@@DigitalRelay yes the slide recovery on a g29 is a pain and the brake pedal is trash for me so that’s what I’m hoping for improved performance in the fanatec wheel. Thanks again for the reply.
Idk how necessary the rubber is on those emi toroids, but as someone dealing with interference on my rig I would have just drilled the hole a little bigger 🤣
@@gouden88 That's interesting. I wonder how effective they are in this situation anyway. I can't recall ever seeing an ethernet cable before that had them.
O meu aparecia controle desligado por conta dos cabos estarem passando todos juntos . Acredito que junto com o cabo da energia não é legal passar o USB
Running USB, CAT5 and power together does risk electro magnetic interference, but I reasoned on such a short run, and with magnetic filters on the end of the USB cable I would be okay. In my case, it works with no problems. It is a valid point to consider though. Also, all those cables were running together in the first place with no problem. All I did was put them all inside an aluminum tube, so there shouldn't be much of a difference. I'm no electrical engineer though.
so with the power connector did you just cut the original cable (because the connector is too big to pass through the holes) then just rejoin the cables?
@@DigitalRelay another question, what did you use to mount the power block to the underside of the foot tray. i couldnt see any cable ties and just curious what you did and has it stayed in place? thanks
@@DigitalRelay I bought the GT DD Pro a few days ago second hand and they came without the bolts and t-nuts so I'm trying to find out which one are the ones included with the wheel base to order them.
If you use Amazon, try a search for t-nut, or slot nut, hammer head fastener nut. Maybe get an assortment. Again, I'm almost certain they are M4. You could also try Fanatec, but I feel like that could be painful.
I don’t feel any while racing, but I’ve never been on an 80/20 aluminum rig to compare. The biggest drawbacks are price and little adjustability. I love it overall though.
Cables are so ugly. I hate them. The only cables you can see on my desk is like 10 cm of keyboard cable and 20 cm of mouse cable. I want a play seat as well but currently am not racing so often anymore, even though I got a VR headset for PC now. I do have a wheel stand and a chair for now that's pretty fine and close to a racing seat and seating position, and I thought about hiding the cables inside as well, but been to lazy to do so yet. 😂
@@jufejufinho A fortunate side effect of this cable management method is that I will almost never that USB-C cable or have to unplug or plug it in. Time will tell.
@@DigitalRelay the shaft comes loose mid race and the torque breaks the usb inside the shaft without even ever touching it. RUclips is full of videos of the csl dds with this problem. That and the plastic qr on the mclaren gt wheel always break. I switched to Moza after that, way superior quality
It's the Playseat Trophy. I got it used for $350, I think. For my situation, it's just about perfect. It's portable enough to slide out of the way or even move to a different room, but solid enough for direct drive. Getting in and out is similar to a go kart. It's not bad, but since I'm not a young man, my back doesn't always love it. I think it looks great too.
@@DigitalRelay thanks for the reply , yes old man here , with lower back issues lol 😂 . Guess I won’t be getting this one either.. if you find a rig that’s back pain friendly hit a brother up.
Yeah that's not good for your cables at all. People have issues all the time without bending them that much. Good luck, hopefully you are not replacing cables or RMAing that base soon.
Maybe it looks worse on video, because I assure you the cables are totally fine. And with this setup, the ports have zero wear and tear. I appreciate your concern. If I end up having issues, I’ll post it here.
The wife approval factor went up just a little
I couldn't see the point in a playseat like this until I watched this video.
With a setup like yours it makes good sense.
Nicely done.
Thank you much! An aluminum profile rig would be cool, but there's no way I'm dragging that around the house.
And then there's me, with my feet being snagged constantly by some cable octopus monster. Nice and clean job.
That's the kind of Sim Racing obsession I'm looking for. Great job 😁
Thank you, sir!!
Thats awesome great job
I've been thinking about getting the Trophy and man ... if I do ... this is happening on day one! Awesome job.
Thank you!! I love the Playseat Trophy and this mod, plus adding bass shakers, rumble pedals and wind simulation. It is a bit on the heavy side with a direct drive wheel, but worth it.
Great video! I'm really surprised that Playseat doesn't pre-drill holes themselves. It makes so much more sense. Just like routing mountain bike cables inside a tubular frame.
Thank you! Yes, I agree. That would be super convenient.
pro tip get a cone or step drillbit
Great video man! I'm new to sim racing and just purchased a used playseat trophy for $400. It's in very good condition, but I warn anyone that buys one of these to check the seating area really good underneath the velcro straps, because it's known to rip in that area. The trophy is definitely worth it if you can find one at a good price but just be aware and if you do find it to be ripped, I'd just see if the seller is willing to take some money off. The good thing is that it can be fixed but you have to find a semtress to beef it up which I'm in the process of doing.
Thank you much! I bought mine used too, and luckily it was in really good shape. I wonder if Playseat would sell the replacement fabric on its own?
@@DigitalRelay From what I've been told they don't, which is a real shame because there's definitely a lot of people online who've stated that they ended up with rips under the seat at some point. Unfortunately, I was unaware of this issue and didn't even look for it, and even though the guy that I bought it off of was cool at the time of purchase, he's dragging his feet on giving the needed information so I can try to get a replacement seat cover from playseat since it's still under warranty. I won't hold my breath though since I got it through fb marketplace. That's why I'll just get it repaired on my own. Still a great cockpit.
@@TheColdest247 Good to know!!
I would have added rubber grommets to those holes to make it look even cleaner.
Yep. I reasoned that the holes are pretty much out of sight unless you are looking for them, and I spent a good amount of time filing to make sure they wouldn't damage cables. If I were a more patient man, grommets would have been good.
I was thinking of this myself, wondered why the rig doesn't come with holes from the factory, would be a nice touch. Great job!
Thank you! I agree, I think Playseat could drill those holes and provide grommets. That would make this even easier.
Someone in a reddit thread asked about structural integrity, so I'll paste my response here: I did some research on this before I started drilling. The wheel base isn't an issue, as it comes with a bunch of holes in it anyway. The tube piece that holds the frame sections together directly under the wheel base is thick aluminum and I didn't feel a 9/16" would affect its integrity. I also figured, worst case, I have to replace that piece. At the bottom of the frame, I made sure to drill on a straight section, and I went right where a bracket is welded thinking that would support it well. I really don't think the holes will lead to any problems. Roll bars and cages are often drilled for various reasons, such as drain holes in the bottom to let water out. It's a great point to bring up though. There is definitely no perceptible flex after drilling the holes.
Amazing, i was thinking I maybe was beeing exagerated but i'm not crazy, the result is fantastic!
Thank you! Yes, from normal viewing angles, you really don't see any cables. I have been adding more mods since this video, so there is more gear, and more cables, but I've done my best to keep the added cables hidden and everything clean. I'll have to do an update video since I've added wind simulation, bass shakers, rumble motors, and a gutted PS4 controller that I use as a headset interface on the PC.
Very nice. My dad is crazy about wire management and hiding them all away
It looks so much better with those cables hidden! :)
You can use a step bit and a center punch to keep the bits from running on you.
Yes, good advice!
Done the same thing couple if weeks ago but only now saw this video 😂
I used a 32 cone drill bit (we call them Christmas trees here in UK)
Luckily my G pro wheels and pedals have long enough cables so didn't had to deal with all that
Isn't it so much better having those cables hidden? I love it.
@@DigitalRelay absolutely. I'm crazy about cable management.
Man, excellent video! I’m definitely doing this, thank you! Even simply mounting the transformer under the pedal plate is ingenious.. that thing is annoying when you move the seat. 👍
Thanks for the comment!! I'm super happy with how clean things are, but I have to admit with the DD wheel, power supply, and two transducers, this thing is getting a little heavy for this old man! (Still worth it though)
@@DigitalRelay hehe.. I hear you man. I’m in my 50’s and it’s not getting any lighter.
I have the same fanatec sticker at the same place. I don’t have the tools and more importantly skills required to do what you did, but I have everything wrapped inside a cable shield and covers all cables, so my vacuum bot won’t eat it up😂
only thing i would do is allow for a bigger loop at the cable bend points to allow for less wear and tear, and maybe get a USB extender cable or USB hub to cover the extra distance but other than that this is an amazing idea, i might try this
All 3 cables had plenty of length to do a longer, wider bend, but I felt this was more than enough for stain relief and it looked as clean as possible. No need for USB extension as there is more than enough of a tail at the bottom to easily reach the PS5.
Looks great, giving me ideas on how to cable manage my set up, thank you
I'm glad you dig it!
Nice Job👌, very Clean
Thank you!! 3 months later and I'm still loving it.
I have been thinking of doing this if I upgrade to the new ps 15nm. I think I will take it to my brothers engineering workshop and cut 2cm holes so can thread without stripping connectors
I love this idea.
Beautiful job, i fall under the “better” category.. i dont know if i trust myself to cut the wires & solder 🤔
Thank you!! You can always practice on some scrap wire first. Also, measure twice, cut once!
Looks great!!! Strange Playseat did not came with a solution to have the cables going thru the tube! How long do you have your seat now? I am thinking to buy one, but see some tear on the headrest and beside the headrest? Or is it just a light thing? I am looking for a good move around solution, as I have to take it from one room to the living room, and looking how to put some wheels on the Pedal plate area, so I can tilt it up and move around and put it tilt up in another room, due to space issue
I’ve not had tearing issues, but some areas wearing lighter. I bought it used about six months ago and love it. I thought about doing wheel too, but dragging on my floor works pretty well, and I don’t love it room to room often. If I really need to, I can hang it on bike hooks in a laundry room, but that’s pretty rare.
Can’t believe I’ve never seen your channel before😂 I’m here now let’s get you some subscribers. I appreciate your videos. Planning on shouting you out on some of my live streams. Currently waiting on the DD pro to be shipped hope it’s a smart upgrade from G29.
Thank you so much!! The DD Pro is a massive upgrade from the G29. I still have my G29 at my girlfriend's house, so I go back and forth on the rigs occasionally. The difference is night and day. I can still drive on the G29 rig, but it takes a little while to adjust to it, and if I happen to start to slide, it's super difficult to save it on the G29. DD feels really natural to save those moments.
@@DigitalRelay yes the slide recovery on a g29 is a pain and the brake pedal is trash for me so that’s what I’m hoping for improved performance in the fanatec wheel. Thanks again for the reply.
this is amazing!
amazing result!
Thank you!!
Idk how necessary the rubber is on those emi toroids, but as someone dealing with interference on my rig I would have just drilled the hole a little bigger 🤣
I would have drilled a bigger hole, but my drill and my bit were maxed, and I was tired of filing and dremeling metal. 😂
the ethernet that came with my dd pro set doesn't even have magnets
@@gouden88 That's interesting. I wonder how effective they are in this situation anyway. I can't recall ever seeing an ethernet cable before that had them.
Very nice 🏁
I thought it looked good with the wires running down the side 😂
O meu aparecia controle desligado por conta dos cabos estarem passando todos juntos . Acredito que junto com o cabo da energia não é legal passar o USB
Running USB, CAT5 and power together does risk electro magnetic interference, but I reasoned on such a short run, and with magnetic filters on the end of the USB cable I would be okay. In my case, it works with no problems. It is a valid point to consider though. Also, all those cables were running together in the first place with no problem. All I did was put them all inside an aluminum tube, so there shouldn't be much of a difference. I'm no electrical engineer though.
so with the power connector did you just cut the original cable (because the connector is too big to pass through the holes) then just rejoin the cables?
Yes, around the 5:00 mark, you can see me soldering the wires back together.
@@DigitalRelay another question, what did you use to mount the power block to the underside of the foot tray. i couldnt see any cable ties and just curious what you did and has it stayed in place? thanks
@@1975Stevo I used 3M dual lock tape. It’s been great. I use it on all sorts of stuff.
What type of screws/bolts and size are those holding the GT DD Pro wheel base if you don't mind? thanks.
If I remember correctly, the allen bolts and T-nuts that slide into the wheel base came with the GT DD Pro, but I believe the bolts are a common M4.
@@DigitalRelay I bought the GT DD Pro a few days ago second hand and they came without the bolts and t-nuts so I'm trying to find out which one are the ones included with the wheel base to order them.
If you use Amazon, try a search for t-nut, or slot nut, hammer head fastener nut. Maybe get an assortment. Again, I'm almost certain they are M4. You could also try Fanatec, but I feel like that could be painful.
Great work.
Thank you! Cheers!
Awesome job on cable managment :)
How do you find the flex in this rig?
I don’t feel any while racing, but I’ve never been on an 80/20 aluminum rig to compare. The biggest drawbacks are price and little adjustability. I love it overall though.
Clean!
Thank you!!
how come the tv doesn't have any power or hdmi cable going down though, inside the wall?
Yes, all cabling goes through the wall... power, ethernet, optical and 3 HDMI cables. There's also a pull string for future whatever.
@@DigitalRelay that sounds like some content over there big time :D
and proof that you are THE cable mgmt expert
Cables are so ugly. I hate them.
The only cables you can see on my desk is like 10 cm of keyboard cable and 20 cm of mouse cable.
I want a play seat as well but currently am not racing so often anymore, even though I got a VR headset for PC now. I do have a wheel stand and a chair for now that's pretty fine and close to a racing seat and seating position, and I thought about hiding the cables inside as well, but been to lazy to do so yet. 😂
great job a hole saw will cut aluminum no prob
should get a sharpie and paint that raw aluminium on the holes ;)
I like that idea
But it's Fanatec, you will have to replace the wheel base in a couple of months😂
Considering the cost, I sure hope not!
@@DigitalRelay if its not the DD1 or DD2, i'm afraid to say it's a matter of time before the usb inside the shaft breaks. It is poorly designed
Ugh
@@jufejufinho A fortunate side effect of this cable management method is that I will almost never that USB-C cable or have to unplug or plug it in. Time will tell.
@@DigitalRelay the shaft comes loose mid race and the torque breaks the usb inside the shaft without even ever touching it. RUclips is full of videos of the csl dds with this problem. That and the plastic qr on the mclaren gt wheel always break. I switched to Moza after that, way superior quality
Hey Jack Nicholson sound alike!! 😂
Hahaha! That's a new one. Now I gotta go listen again. 😂
@@DigitalRelay yeah the way said certain things in the video, i immediately thought, Jack Nicholson!!
this cockpit is for F1 right?!
Not necessarily. I'm using it for GT7.
What rig is that?
It's the Playseat Trophy. I got it used for $350, I think. For my situation, it's just about perfect. It's portable enough to slide out of the way or even move to a different room, but solid enough for direct drive. Getting in and out is similar to a go kart. It's not bad, but since I'm not a young man, my back doesn't always love it. I think it looks great too.
@@DigitalRelay thanks for the reply , yes old man here , with lower back issues lol 😂 . Guess I won’t be getting this one either.. if you find a rig that’s back pain friendly hit a brother up.
You need a step bit. But good job.
Agreed. Impatience got the best of me.
Bro why are you using a driver to drill holes?
I'll give you three guess and the first two don't count
no it's the level 9'000'000 😀
Cables management is for slow guyz 😂😂
Perhaps 😂
Yeah that's not good for your cables at all. People have issues all the time without bending them that much. Good luck, hopefully you are not replacing cables or RMAing that base soon.
Maybe it looks worse on video, because I assure you the cables are totally fine. And with this setup, the ports have zero wear and tear. I appreciate your concern. If I end up having issues, I’ll post it here.
@@DigitalRelay I guess if you aren't moving the base around at all, it should be fine.