I got a black one almost 2 years ago, think it was pretty new back then. It has stood the test of time quite well, it still looks and drives like on day 1. Main reason i got it was because i wanted something sturdy for strong DD wheels, but also didn't have a dedicated place for a rig. So this thing is absolutely perfect for me, because it very light and fairly small while still being sturdy. So i have it standing somewhere in a corner, and then when i want to drive i just slide it over to my PC and get driving. Even after 2 years i am still very happy with this rig.
@@AtomicAndi I've done a few endurance races in it, without any problems. Before i had a wheelstand and gaming chair setup. Back then i had a lot of leg and shoulder pain after long session, but since i got the playseat i could drive for hours without issues. The ergonomics are good and the seat is comfy. As for wear, my initial worry was that the velcro straps on the seat might wear out, but they are still as tight as ever. The metal frame stands the test of time ofc, no worries there, no scratches in the coating either
I agree with the OP. I’ve had mine a bit over a year. Comfortable and breathable. No issues for longer sessions and no signs of wear. The Velcro is still holding very well and seems as good as day one. I recently got a Simgic DD and I don’t notice any flex at all. I would buy again without hesitation.
I bought this when the DD pro + came out coming from a playset trophy the wife made me keep in the closet. She actually said this one looks cool enough to keep in the living room. Best sim purchase I've made lol
I have it. It’s solid and beautiful. It has one single BIG issue. It really destroys your lumbar zone. That belt in the back is not short enough to substain the lumbars. Many people complained about that and put a lil pillows between the belt and the seat itself.
That title really gives a negative impression, while the actual review is actually rather positive. This is a stellar cockpit if you want to graduate from good old Playseat Challenge and don't have a space or budget for full size rig. Only a sim snob would consider this a bad cockpit.
I do wonder tho why not just buy a car. You can pick one up from the junkyard for like $100-500 and then just remove the windshield or keep it on and put the screen on there.
@@dnegel9546Let me just carry a junker up three flights into my condo. Can’t wait to have rust, dirt, oil, and who-knows-what leak out onto the floor. I’m sure the chair that’s sat exposed to the elements for years is also mold-free and highly supportive.
I personally run this cockpit with my DD pro, took some engineering to mount my shifter, e brake and button boxes. But overall it's a great lightweight cockpit that is quite easy to slide around. It suits my needs well.
Had mine for several months, and it has been solid. Took a few tries to get my Fanatec DD 8nm wheel right where I wanted it, but now that I have, the cockpit is super comfortable. Zero flex from the cockpit and everything feels super sturdy. Highly recommended!
I bought a Trophy because it is hands down the best entry/mid level cockpit for me. Amazon delivered it next day, I didn't have to wait weeks, or months for some random dude to send me 8020 (which I would just buy locally and design myself) before rummaging through a junk yard for a WRX seat. The Trophy is perfect for what I needed. It's easy to move, easy to adjust, and insanely comfortable, imperceptible flex, and it looks fucking awesome in my game room. Logi G923 fit perfectly (I'm 5' 10"), and so does the Fanatec DD Pro I upgraded to.
I’ve had mine for 6 months. I bought it because I was moving from my desk to a dedicated rig. I didn’t want a full 8020 rig, but wanted something more than a playseat challenge. This fit that sweet spot perfectly. I love it. I use it with a Logitech G29 that I’ve had for about 4 years. For my skill level it’s pretty much a perfect setup, but I do want to upgrade the wheel/pedals in the future.
hi! i'm looking at buying something like this and Im interested in knowing the height of the wheel deck from the floor. Could you measure it for me? I can't find it anywhere. Thanks mate
@@fermillo65 Yea man, because I'm using a G29 I have the wheel deck angled slightly down into my lap. The bottom of the deck closest to me is at 23 inches. The top of the deck furthest away from me is 25 inches. If I made it perfectly level the deck would sit at about 24.25 inches away from the floor. Hope this helps!
Good advice for people that are handy but I can see people messing that up bad LOL. But I searched the videos you mention and wow that looks like a fun project. My idea would have been to 3d Print some cable ties like the ones the challenge x has but bigger. However, running the cables through looks like a much cleaner idea and worth the work
It has been excellent for me. My main reason for picking it over a profile rig was the size and ability to move around as I can’t have a dedicated space. I actually got a hook that I attached to my wall to stand it upright when not in use. Works great and saves a ton of space.
Caster wheels can very easily be attached to a profile setup, and if you use the right connectors, it can be partially disassembled or adjusted to make it more compact to fit in a storage area. If you use 8020 profiles, it can be very light and moveable with casters. You're paying a lot extra for a very small space savings.
Mine is still perfect 😁 love it and about rigidity I love how it is because the force feedback transfers to the rest of the rig and the tubes act like a buttkicker and its directional too, when I hit a right curb I feel the curb on my right leg, feet and buttcheck
@@Dieterbesame problem here, i use a pillow on my back to push me bit more forward and another small pillow to rest my head so it doesnt push as much. give it a go!
I just got a black one last month too. I need something I can drag to and away from my PC, as I don't have a dedicated PC for sim racing. It's super comfortable for me, and I'm very happy with it.
I just bought this rig and haven't mounted anything to it yet, but I was very impressed by the build process and I absolutely love how you are given everything that you might need for any future upgrades or changes to your gear. I can also say that the gear/handbrake holder is excellent. (much like the rest of this rig) Once everything was in place and tightened down it stayed sturdy and surprisingly stable.
@@invertedjokerrthat’s a full sized 8020 rig and doesn’t come with a seat. This is smaller much easier to move around and comes with a seat. While they’re both rigs they’re not comparable, and definitely not exactly the same like you said.
@@Bigheadedwon nope. The rig I’m speaking of is only available in store and not online. It is the exact same thing as this. I have the play seat version upstairs and the tony kanaan downstairs. Same dimensions minus the kanaan version doesn’t have holes for the shifter plate. If you’re a man, you can drill them yourself. Maybe go do some research or googling first next time. Google ‘Tony kanaan monza rig’ it is the same. Get embarrassed and then delete your comment
I love your videos. your reviews are some of the best around. Its really nice to get quality reviews before going out to purchase sim racing gear considering how expensive this hobby is. Keep up the great work.
I went with a tube frame GT Omega Titan due to the width and the ability to add wheels. It rolls right into a closet for easy storage once you remove the shifter. The seat is also easily adjustable for friends which is very valuable.
Hi Will, I sat on the fence due to content creators giving it a hard time on price versus a dedicated rig. I took the plunge a year ago for the awesome looking grey one. I have my DD Pro mounted to play ACC on PS5. I am so, so pleased with it. The build quality is fantastic, and it looks really sweet, so I get away with it sitting on the corner of the living room. If I decide to go super wide and PC in my office, its office first sim second, so I will still need this to sit in front of my desk and move out the way for work. I have a large house I could accommodate a full rig, I just don't want an ugly extruded aluminium rig. Its also super comfy, I can do a 3 hour on ACC and still feel fresh at the end. There is defo a market for these. I agree they need to make a couple of small adaptions 2 holes for running cables internally, there is many vids on YT of people DIY jobs. It would also really benefit from discrete roller wheels just in front of where the fronts touches the ground. This would make it super easy to move about, which is the main market for this. I Plan on adding some wheels to mine and I might drill and reem it for cables while i'm at it. Anyway I adore mine. Just put your self in the mind set of a casual sim racer that has £££ and you will soon see this sat in the corner of my large living room 🙂
Bought a Titan cockpit from GT Omega myself and it's absolutely brilliant. Very rigid, nice-looking, a bit cheaper than the Playseat and requiring little space with the ability to move it around if need be. These kinds of cockpits are great for somewhat regular living and similar rooms! Really love the setup, which I think perfectly hits the sweet spot of having an advanced rig without going full pro.
I picked this Cockpit up for my first rig a few months ago and have major complaints complaints. I can sit in it for hours and not get uncomfortable, I am 5'9" and 140lbs for reference. It took a few sessions to dial in the the best adjustments to use that fit me and felt comfortable for hours or play at a time. I really like how easy it is to move around when put together and with wheel and pedals mounted. Mine did come with velcro to help wires but the velcro was only one sided so it was not able to be used since it was missing half its functionality. Really the lack of being able to do something about the wiring is the only real negative I have with the Rig. I got wires being held on with twist ties, while it looks bad it gets the job done well enough. I have used the G923 for a couple months and then upgraded to the DD Pro 8nm and the Rig held up fine with both. The wheel mount needs to be tightened pretty well or the wheels can can move it when the force gets high. Overall I am very happy with the Playseat Rig and would recommend it especially if you need to move it around. Neither the wheels/pedals nor the rig came with hardware to mount them together so I did have to go to the hardware store and get bolts and nuts. Really wish they would come with hardware or at least say it doesn't come with them and recommend what size bolts/nuts are needed.
with some wheelbases you can even turn it upside down to lower the wheel, I have my R5 like this and I know it also works with the fanatec 5/8nm DD, some bases might have clearance issues with the bar behind it like this though.
@@johanlawrence4247no way? I need this lol I'm a lil dude 5'4 and I've always just had the base tilted downwards a little. Going to try this tomorrow 👍🏼
@@johanlawrence4247literally replied seconds ago, and now that I'm looking at it, I don't know how that never crossed my mind to just flip it lol thanks. Definitely doing this tomorrow
back then when i bought the playseat thropy i had to decide between the trophy and a aluminium rig from a polish aluminum profile shop + a cheap car seat. i took the trophy because i wanted to get the rig fast so i could spend my holidays with simracing and not spending time waiting for the profiles to be delivered, building the rig, getting all the right hardware to mount the seat plus it was 200€ cheaper than aluminium + seat.
I have had the rig for six months now and i would recommend it. I have a Logitech dd pro and pedals and apart from being very sturdy, you feel the FFB throughout the rig frame. Left, right, center, even the painted chevrons! And i use it with VR.
I use a Trakracer TR8 tubular rig with a GT style seat and I originally bought it years ago because it got good reviews, looked aesthetically pleasing in the corner of my dining room, and had an integrated TV/monitor mount. I ended up modifying the mount to allow the screen to move closer to my wheelbase (chasing FOV) but I race exclusively in VR now so the screen isn't important anymore. If I was starting again, I'd go profile but it does everything I need and I can't justify swapping over now.
I purchased the Logitech edition a few months ago, along with the Logitech Pro Wheel & Pedal. Previously I was using a Wheel Stand Pro Deluxe with a G29. I game in my room so I need something with a small foot print. This was a huge improvement for me in terms of comfort, immersion, the adjustments. Assembly was relatively smooth so I have no complaints there. I do recall there being a number of Velcro pieces but to be honest I cant remember if they came with the Logitech Pro wheel & pedal or the Playseat. It is very light and can be easily moved around as needed, this is with the wheel and pedal on. For those who may be worried about damaging/scratching the material of the cockpit, I recommend getting the mat that Playseat also sells. It's the perfect size for the Playseat and helps protect both the cockpit and tile/floor. It also helps to stop the cockpit from sliding around. One thing to consider is, while you have many adjustments and they aren't hard to do, it will still become tiresome making them to suit other people. If you will be the only person using the cockpit, then you''re in the clear but if you have to share it with multiple people it will become a hassle. As mentioned in the video, there will be some flex but it is minimal. You don't notice it while racing.
I have got a black one with gearshift support for one year+ combined with Fanatec DD pro, V3 and shifter. It is perfect for my height (180 cm) and V3s are easy to mount providing extra solidity to the "sweet" pedal tray. I also installed the old belt CSL wheel base and it was a "match made in heaven". The gearshift support holds the hefty Fanatec shifter like a champ. It can be considered the best choice for amateurs or semi-pro simracers.
I bought one almost 2 years ago… and it’s still good as new. Very sturdy, very confy, and adjustable. If you want a good “rig”, sturdy enough for a dd or any wheel, but without having to go big with a proper rig… this is it
It's the perfect seat for someone that wants a more light weight and comfortable rig with a lower profile. For me it's the best middle-ground between full sim-rig and foldable budget alternatives. I own the Trophy myself and I really hope they continue with this middle-segment of products for years to come.
I've had this over a year with CSL DD and love it. As others have mentioned it's very strong but also light enough to easily move if need be. Highly recommended. And the Mrs test, yes 😃
I bought one a few months ago because I had limited space and I wanted something that looked decent in my small space and still gave me a decent racing rig. I am using the Simagic Alpha Ultimate and P1000 pedals (with hydraulic upgrade). I love it. It's compact, but comfortable. Little to no flex/movement. And it looks good when not in use (it's sleek and with the red and black of the Simagic pedals it looks sharp). It's adjustable enough and I have managed to find a great racing position. Plus, I can move it/store it really easily. I would highly recommend if you don't have the space for a larger, more permanent rig.
I experience zero flex with my Alpha U. I am a ‘weekend warrior’ type racer, so I definitely don’t have it dialed-in at a pro level, but I have experience nothing that makes me regret my decision. The ONLY thing I would change is that I feel the seating position is a touch too low for my liking, and I feel it puts my eye-level just below where I would prefer it to be. But I adjust in the software and I’m good to go. I’m not near the rig so I can’t check pedal settings. From memory I have the elastomers on the relatively firm/little travel side, and I don’t experience any flex in the pedal plate.
@@TheDoctor46vr Just sat down between holiday festivities and maxed out (in my settings window, based on my settings) at 37KG of force and no movement.
I just ordered one of these in black 2 days ago from Amazon. Also ordered Fanatec Gran Turismo DD pro 8NM package with 2 pedals. Hopefully, it will come before the weekend. Will be my first racing rig. I'm looking forward to giving this a go.
Owned one of these for about a year before selling it to a friend and upgrading to an ASR1 and an NRG seat for basically the same price (I'm in North America and used a discount code for the ASR1). It's a great set up for what it is: rigid enough for low to mid range NM DD bases and load cell pedals but also light enough to slide/move around a room or store out of the way. Looks as though some people even hang them up on the wall when not in use. The main complaint I had about this rig are the sliding "size" extender rails. Ended up having to fully extend them because anything shorter would just expand under heavy braking over time. Have read solutions where people have mixed grease and sand to keep it from fully extending to the large adjustment under breaking. Overall though better than any foldable/wheelstand rig but not quite as good as a full aluminum profile rig and bucket seat. If I were to do it again I would have skipped the Playseat Trophy and gone right to the ASR1 and proper seat but I'm glad I was able to experience the best budget all in one tubular solution currently. The seat on the Trophy is arguably more comfortable than my NRG seat, even after long play sessions and the lightness of the rig combined with the nature of the hammock style seat made the bass shakers that much more impactful. That being said the profile rig is way more customizable and the Playseat doesn't even have a decent shifter/handbrake mount currently that isn't overpriced and poorly designed. All just food for thought.
Yep. I've had it with the tubes sliding out. I have the pedals as close as they can be. I can't reach them once the tubes slide out to the large setting. I'm so annoyed with this and how much I spent for this rig.
I use this one, if you are the only driver who use this seat it's good. It's very stable, nothing moves when I use my Fanatec DD with Loadcell. I can Recommend it for drivers who don't use a shifter or handbrake. Also you have room for your legs. It's also very light, no Problem to move it around. For low Budget it's very good 🏁🌍😎✌️
I've had one for a month. The lumbar support is subpar. It gave me lots of back pain during use. I also found the wheelplate not being adjustable is very annoying. When youre in a suboptimal position for a couple hours you notice the inconvenience of it. Even in a 2hr stint in an endurance race it already bothered me. The pedal deck flexes with decent force on braking. And since the whole thing is kinda light, if you put it on a smooth floor it can move during big moments of ffb. Also everytime you sit down it moves, making you re-center the thing while on the chair. I also regularly hit my knees on the extended bits on the wheeldeck Those are all inconveniences that you shouldnt have with a rig at this price point imo. A profile rig is way way better
Hi mate, I'm 13stone, 5'11, and fi and that my ideal seating position with three trophy is brilliant. I'm medium on the tube, seat half reclined and have the pedals at a perfect angle. I have the wheel deck flipped so the short side faces you, which moves the wheel further away. I've got the deck angled down ever so slightly. I have osteoarthritis and find the seating good. The lumbar support is good I've got it just in the right spot. Everyone is different and what works for me may not work for you. Its light, easy to build and configure when compared to a profile rig. The seat is breathable where as most of the cheaper seats for profile rigs are pleather which make me sweat and then the seats are flat so you need brackets to angle it. Or get a more expensive bucket seat with brackets... I did a lot of research before opting for the trophy and for me it's been nothing but perfect. Using it with a fanatec dd 8nm, loadcell (I've seen zero plex in the pedal deck btw)
@@StickyGeko I think this difference in experience shows what's the main issue with this rig is. For some it works well, but for others its simply not adjustable enough to be comfortable in the longer sessions.
i bought one almost 2 years ago, and its pretty awesome for the living room. I would like to see the new Clubsport DD mounted on it as im waiting for mine from Fanatec :D
Bought this frame (logitech version) for GT7 on a Logitech pro setup paired with the family TV. Mounting holes line up perfectly for the wheel and pedals. I also have to pass a wife test, which really means I need to store this out of sight. And that place is the basement. It's still light enough to haul upstairs, even with the pedals and wheel mounted. It's not easy because of the size, but doable for a man of average strength.
Had mine for about 6 months, it's been a joy to use. The seat is really nice IMO, it kinda forms around me in a nice way. I prefer it over actual racing seats, most of which tend to be uncomfortable for people who aren't realatively tall. I'm 172 tall, 70kilos. I have the pit set pretty close to the smallest setting with the wheel very close cause I like being stuck in really snug. It would work fine for shorter people. Maybe even kids if you raise the seat back upright (mine is leaned back a bit.)
Just gonna pop in once more, had it for close to a year now and it's held up great. I've used it for about 300-400 hours at this point and there is no wear anywhere. Still in perfect shape. The seat seems to be made from very resistant material cause it literally looks brand new. I have a load cell pedal as well so I squeeze myself back in that seat pretty hard when I brake, still no stretching or wear. Very satisfied. Very happy it fit me as well as it does. That was my main concern when going with this kind of pit over a profile rig, I was afraid it just wouldn't fit me. It's surprisigngly adjustable. I'm using the wheel base mount backwards to get it even more snug. Anyways, I'd recommend this to people who feel like they want this. It does look super cool and it feels very much like getting into a race car. You have to slide in like you're getting into a supercar. Makes me feel cool every time!
Have seen a few reviews about this, thanks for going so in-depth and being upfront and clear about all the pros and cons. Amazing content as usual. Has made me decide to take the leap on this one.
I considered getting one of these but ended up getting alu profiles anyway, the main reason being that the cost of the Playseat trophy was very close to what I paid for a rig + a brand new car seat. For me, having a proper car seat is a clear win because of the adjustability and comfort
I've had a 2007 model Playseat Evolution in alcantara finish for about 11 years now. It feels great to drive in and I can't see any possible reason I'd ever need to replace it. You'll fairly quickly find yourself replacing a wheel or a monitor or whatever, but the chassis is the one part of your rig you only need to buy once if you don't half-ass it. I mean... It's still shaped like a bucket seat. It's still adjustable. I added an official gear shifter attachment for about £60 a few years ago. It's physically incapable of becoming outdated or breaking. Unless I win the lottery and start looking at motion rigs.
I adore my playseat trophy g edition. It's a smaller form factor than any profile rig, and is very light should I need to move it to access wiring etc. Very sturdy, with no flex. I went from a TR8 Pro, which weighed an absolute ton, and was much bigger. This is a better racing experience for me and takes up a fraction of the space.
I've had this rig for 1,5 years with a Fanatec GT DD Pro (8 nm) and the V3 pedals. It's very comfortable, and I'm very happy with it. Also have the shifter mount for use as a mouse tray. I don't seem to have really any flex on the length adjustment like there is on the video, maybe because I have it set to a shorter length. Also the V3 pedals have their own baseplate so no flex on the pedals either. The two things of concern with this rig are lack of quick adjustability if you want to have friends try it, and also the lack of a dedicated steering wheel base height adjustment. But if you can live with those, it's a great rig for sure! Highly recommended.
This is perfect for anyone who doesn't have the space or money for a dedicated rig. It's very easy to move this around. I use my monitor for racing AND other games so it's not like I can just place a rig permanently in front of it. So no you don't "just buy a rig" there are things to be considered.
I have this - if you need rigid rig that can be moved, this is excellent. The rigidness and movability comes at a premium, but it's worth it in my opinion. Also, their CS is excellent.
Had the Logitech Grey Playseat for almost a year now and still loving it presence in my small little living room. Stick 4 pieces of felt-pads floor protect and l can push the sim around (not on carpet) whenever l need space without hurting my back. I m 1.8m but setting my seat length to the shortest for the rally-car feels. Can literally sleep in it as well. Yes it's that comfortable, cooling as well. Shipping from Amazon USA is expensive but worth it.
Have one myself now for several months and I can mostly agree with what you've said in the video although using fanatec's v3 pedals is really no issue in terms of flex. However I'm already upgrading to 8020 rig since lack of customizations is a thing with this rig. While rig is pretty rigid and comfortable I can highlight some of the issues that I've experienced. For me, it's really low and getting in and out is a bit annoying, fastening underneath the seat kept falling off especially when getting out so every now and then I had to fasten it again. While it's relatively light but add heavy pedals and a heavy wheel base(I have DD GT PRO) and you end up where the front of the wheel is heavy and rear end is light, moving it isn't something you'll want to be doing a lot, I solved that by attaching caster wheels to the front and it made moving it around that much easier. If you don't need to move it around then I'd go for 8020 rig since in terms of space it's taking it's just a tiny bit less than the most popular aluminum profile rigs and since for me space has become a non issue and I can set for a permanent rig location it has become redundant. I'm not sure I agree on 'this looks better in a room than aluminum profile rigs', in my opinion new black profile rigs don't look any worse.
I had some 2" thick pine boards laying around that I got bored and milled up one day. Cut a bunch of it up and made a rig for my wheel and pedals. Made a pedestal and put in some drawer slides that I found in a discarded cabinet on the side of the road. Had some Paracord from a project that I threaded between the two rails for a seat bottom. After I put everything together I was out of a few dollars for some lag bolted to tie everything together. Fun little day project. Now I have a roadside junk TV that I fixed bolted to the wheel pedestal that slides in and out with the wheel to get out and some castors to roll it around.
Such a fantastic amount of effort that went into this video, thank you! Love the checklist at the end to make sure you covered everything…. It’s so hard to make a decision on something like this without such a detailed review! Unfortunately adding this to the living room was not an option here (as understanding as my wife is, that is a step too far 😅), but we’re almost finished on converting the cellar and this feels like the perfect way to bring my love of racing to the new man cave :-D. Subscribed!!
@@Gepeperde Had it for around half a year now, but no problems with the Alpha U or with the pedals. The massive P2000 base plate adds a lot of extra stability! I'd say its much sturdier than it looks. Very impressive for the small footprint The "wetsuit material" (seat) can perhaps be a bit squeeky during heavy breaking, and you can't adjust the pedals into a proper formula position (only formula/gt hybrid). But other than that I'm super happy with it. Use it for maybe 2-3 session per week
@@sebastianmandrean Hydraulic not for me. Is recommended for daily use or close to that. I use the rig mostly on a Sunday. So the seller advised loadcell instead.
Bought this because of looks AND rigidity in use with DD base and a LC brake and was not nearly expecting it to be so well suited for racing. It stays in my mancave and I use it nearly daily for a few minutes to hours of endurance races from time to time. I don’t have any comparison as this is my first sim right now ever but I won’t have any comparison soon bc this thing is so great. I just have the „small“ gt dd pro base (8nm) from fanatec and the CSL pedals but that is more than enough for me. Absolutely can underline everything’s said in the video no additions. 100% buy again.
I was reading that this was intended for the enhanced feedback mode of the Logitech Pro wheel, and that the flex that is sent from the wheel base to the frame is actually intended to add to immersion (as you're feeling feedback not just through the wheel but through the chassis too). Not sure how true this is in practice though...
Yes, if you HAVE the logitech DD pro wheel you definitely feel the ffb throughout the frame. Left, right, center, you can even fell the chevron paint via the rig. Its like a stereo feeling effect.
Hey I just bought this cockpit 2 weeks ago! Im a beginner and this is my first cockpit. Im very happy with it, I got the same color, and mounted my G Pro to it.
I haven't finished the video but I just ordered one 2 days ago lol.. Only reason I ordered this is because it's light and moves out of the way, even can be hung on a wall with bike hooks. If I had a dedicated space for an aluminum rig then obviously I would have gone with one of those instead of this.
the advantage of this cockpit is to be able to move it, but it is still quite heavy with a DD on it, it is very comfortable and more rigid than one seems to believe, very robust, now the problem with this cockpit, is that the seat is too low and there is no steering wheel height adjustment, I put the plate in the other direction (below the tube) it went well with my csl dd, like that I I have a view above the steering wheel.
Not bad but I would recommend the GT Omega titan as the best and most rigid tubular cockpit .I went for a Prime aluminium cockpit purely becauas I like my wheel low and with tubular you are very limited as far as wheel height.
@@schmid1.079 Doesn't make it anymore compact, if seen pictures of people having these vertically against walls or hanging from some hooks. It's also much more compact
@@gerardweistra Yes, a little. About 5-10 cm in lenght and broadness. I can't see a lot of situations where those matter, and I have a pretty cramped room myself.
@@boostedmedia cool cool no rush a few extra days won't change much. Also think iv seen that seat go on sales often for quite a bit lower than what they ask for full price.
I agree. The vertical aluminum extrusions that protrude higher than the wheelbase on most aluminum profile rigs break the immersion. They need a better design that can be adjusted vertically without the fixed height of the extrusion.
A friend of mine bought one and its like getting into a cockpit, if anything, its to light ! I'm off to the shops to pick one up ! If i had money for a DD wheel and pro pedals i would'nt buy this frame but as a starter pack, for the price, perfect ! Good review !
I got a playseat challenge 2nd hand from a family friend and I love how you can change the shape of the seat in under a minute. Like formula style layed down to gt3 style sat upright in under a min
Weird, my Logitech one came with velcro straps to use, as well as felt pads to have at the bottom that contacts the ground. However I didn't have any extra of those weird washers for accessories. With that said though, I absolutely love mine. I love using it, and I love looking over to see it. I also love being able to move it about as needed. Definitely happy with my purchase.
Would be interested to hear your opinions on other profile rigs! I recently purchased a GT Omega Titan and it's only $100 more than this (cost including the RS12 seat) and this things is pretty solid! The pedal plate is way thicker than is shown in the photos, there is a quite solid shifter mount, and while I know there are some people complaining about the wheelbase mount shifting with heavier bases, apparently a few bucks in locking screws/washers essentially solves the problem. Obviously the playseat is for a pretty different market, as the GT Omega Titan is certainly not something you'll be moving around, but thought I'd bring it up since the price point to value ratio seems pretty high!
I found my zero gravity lawn chair slides right up to a Next Level folding Wheel/Pedal stand with shifter mount. Nice cheap setup. I used some hexagonal long nuts to extend the shifter further out to a more natural position. And the wheel is very easy to adjust up or down for different people. PS: If you prop the rear of your playchair up, it has the effect of lowering the wheel a tad.
I have this Rig since March 2023 and use it nearly on daily bases. The seat doesn't have any major issues besides one little corner where the red cover slighly started to peal off, but it is because when I get into and out of the seat I constantly rub myself around it. One thing to note though. If you have a shifter plate mounted and the other side of a rig is against the wall it is slightly complicated to get into it or get out as you need to through your feet over it in the air in a very awkward way
Good vid! I have had a Logitech edition Trophy with my G Pro DD & Pedals for 6 months with minimal gripes. I Feel you missed on talking about Comfort for extended driving sessions. After getting the rig setup right for my ergonomic profile I have had zero issues induced from the rig playing 6 hours plus. Beyond that the sited issue with the pedal base flex is very specific to either individual mounted pedals or with high force in the brake pedal. For instance with my G pro pedals the base they have eliminated most flex except with the brake force set to 80KG of force or higher than frame flex becomes noticeable but I don’t usually go passed 45KG currently. As for mobility of the frame I live in an apartment and only have space in my bedroom and have to position the rig when in use and than take it down and set it in a out of the way spot I have, being able to move it around with ease is extremely helpful! It only takes me about 60 seconds to set it up and begin power up. This really very important when you do not have a dedicated sole use sim racing place available to you or need to move the rig around. Those big aluminum frame rigs eat up a lot of space.
I have this rig and I love it. Some of us have to share our entertainment area with other people, and this rig never gets complaints. I just stow it to the right of my entertainment unit when not in use.
I've had this seat for a year now exactly. I was skeptical at first about the price and whether it would hold up against my Podium DD1 Base, but it has been worth it every time. I have driven 2k hours in ACC, using pedals with 90 kg load cell (75kg using) and absolutely no flex to date. Very good and very stable cockpit with very comfortable seat. I would buy it again
@@playa4life306 set to 75kg is a lot! I wonder what Will has his set to because you can see a fair amount of flex when he uses it. I wish he would have said so, I don't understand why he would leave out such an important detail in a review. If I were him I would keep testing different amounts of brake force until I found no flex.
@@TheDoctor46vrIn the video the pedals are mounted directly to the rig and don't have their own aluminum plate like my V3, so flex a bit on the ring I think. It depends on which pedals you want to use. I don't feel any flex with my pedals when I set them to 90kg
I can't have a permanent position for my rig so this lets me move it back and forth, it also looks quite neat, been very happy with it, I do run the wheel deck backwards to allow for some more space behind the wheel.
I have the Logitech one , got the shifter plate with the hf8 rumble and Logitech g pro wheel, the true force plus hf8 is insane you can really feel the curbs . I have it on carpet I like that you can slide it around and out of the way when needed . Worth every penny !
I've got Sprints mounted to this thing using their baseplate connected to the tray which helps resolve a lot of the flex. Since it's lifted by the baseplate I also slapped a BST-1 under the pedals and another one using a playseat challenge 3rd party connector to the tube under your thighs, those are the same diameter as the OG playseat so those connector peripherals still work. Then I bought a bike phone holder holds a 9-keypad on the left to navigate menus. This sort of rig really benefits from qr2 otherwise its a PITA to stand up and get out of. As other have said you can whip the wheel mount around. Basically have this thrown in a corner connected via extension cables, if you're VR only it's a great solution. Oh yeah, if you get the gear/handbrake holder you can just slap some very short aluminum profile onto it and you can mount just about anything you'd want. Got Heusinkveld handbrake on there no problem.
I bought a 6 Sigma Slim with the adjustable seat for ~$700. I think at this price point, the 6 Sigma Slim is way more future proof when it comes to add-ons and way more sturdy. I've never used this Playseat rig, but I would probably advise folks to wait a few weeks, save up some more money and go for a solid rig. This Playseat chassis just seems to limit you if you plan on adding other pieces to your rig and the price isn't even that far off aluminum rigs.
I love mine .Have the Logitech trophy one and it’s amazing .It can slide as decor too when not in use haha .Very stilish,sturdy and awesome for the G PRO wheel
My Trophy came with velcro strips for cable management. Not sure why this one didn't. Had mine about 6 months now and I have zero regrets. Very comfortable and rigid. Zero complaints. I've also noticed that anyone who seems to knock it has no firsthand experience with it, and they all promote the more expensive rig they bought. So don't pay much attention to the haters. They just don't understand that they paid $100+ more for a product that isn't as good overall. Every profile or other rig I've used has at least one noticable area that falls short of the Trophy. From an overall quality, comfort, and rigidity standpoint, you get far more for your dollar here. Quick adjustability to fit others with different heights is the only thing it's lacking. Your not going to be switching between a 6'1" person and a 5'9" person quickly. That's the only real downside.
This looks an upgraded evolution of the Fanatec CSL seat from back in the day. I have owned the CSL seat since 2014 and still use it with my Logitech G Pro as of late. You are right tube designs do lack rigidity or at least mine does. But I would have to say it has stood the test time for sure lol. I bought that thing right before Fanatec discontinued them on a Black Friday sale. Best $99 bucks I ever spent on sim racing gear. This looks to be more versatile and rigid though. One of the biggest issues I have had with the CSL seat is pedal mounting rigidity. I have to mount the pedals very close to the seat to make sure they dont rock backwards when you put force on them. Because of that mounting configuration it makes getting the seating configuration very tricky. Im 5’ 8” and anyone any taller than me would not be able to use the CSL seat because of this unless they are ok with the pedals raising almost 2 inches off the floor under hard braking lol. The profile rig looks to have a more solid pedal mounting design in comparison though. And it also seems to have more adjustability on the wheel deck, seating position, and pedal deck. I think I’ll be upgrading soon because the CSL seat is getting very long in the tooth. So many options these days though.
I run this with the Podium DD1 and V3 pedals with the shifter mount and fanatec shifter. Everything is perfect to me, very stable, no flex and an extremely comfortable seat. I use a NLR floor standing monitor mount for my 48” LG C2 Oled and the ability to slide the playseat trophy back and sit in the seat and play my PS5 is perfect. That is disappointing you didn’t get the cable mgmt, my Logitech edition did come with them.
I got the Playseat Trophy in black about half a year ago for a Fanatec DD Wheel. So far i don't have any complaints in terms of wear and tear or the quality of the Seat. Treated properly it will most likely serve for a very long time and should for whatever reason break the fabric of the seat do i hope to be able to get a replacement coz that tubeframe is probably going to outlive me.
With no room properly dedicated to my sim racing addiction, I needed to find a rig that could be transportable from behind a shelf to the center of my living-room. This is just perfect for that, as you can easily fix 2 wheels under the pedal plate to move it from one side of the apartment to the other. I literally need 2 minutes to install it for a session. So practicality: 10/10 Driving with a Fanatec DD1 and V3 pedals with the BPK installed, I frankly don’t notice (even if there may be some) any flex at all. I can imagine that the flex of the pedal plate is reduced by the overall structure of the V3 pedals, as the tension points are on the sides. The only flex that I can feel, is from the seat. But it is not a problem to me, even if of course it would be better without any flex at all. And regarding the seating position - being personally quite picky about that topic - I can easily set up a perfect position, at least for GT driving. I am 184cm tall (if this info can help someone). And regarding the aesthetic, just remove all the stickers and it directly looks less like a “toy”. Even quite serious imo! Can’t recommend it enough 👍🏼
Removing the black rubber cover on top of the v2 elites let's you use a couple of longer m6 bolts straight into the trophy's pedal tray. In conjunction with the two rear points gives a solid, no hassle way, to mount these pedals to the trophy. I managed it solo with the pedal tray sttached to the trophy inside of 10 mins.
How many Nm do you run and whats the flex like? ps. It would be cool if you made a little video about the V2 fitment, I don't expect you to undo it all but just point out exactly what you're talking about.
I just got mine yesterday. Logitech pro DD wheel and pedals. Very nice and stable, comfortable, and since I need to move it out if the way of my home theater space when not racing, it's perfect. I sit 65 inches away from my 130 inch wide screen. Assembly took about an hour and then I spent another hour dialing in my specific position and cable management. I used zip ties (though mine did come with cable velcro ) for a clean look.
I have used Playseat challenge, trophy and EVO and i prefer Trophy. I used it with DD2 and V3 pedals and i had absolutely no flex issues. I am 1.75m in height and only thing i had is that i sat bit too low in comparison where the wheel is and the wheel could have been tilted more back but other than that it was perfect for my back and i was super happy with it.
After trying out and looking at a multitude of rigs and having the facility/equipment to build actual real cars decided to build my own.Wanting to use a proper FIA approved adjustable hydraulic pendulum pedal set up from my old race car it needed to be very sturdy. and using leftover cage tubing from various car projects and a recaro wingback on a Ford Mondeo drivers seat frame for full adjustment along with the steering mounting and pedal box,it took me about two weekends,I mounted a tubular slide mount to fit a tv,made from 60mm exhaust pipe it will support any size or number of screens you care to fit to it,mine has a 60" samsung led on it and its rock steady,and I used a 9"touchscreen android device for a dashboard. Given all the stuff I had already and disregarding the seat I bought the whole rig cost around £150 including powder coating.I hate stuff moving around even slightly and the transferring of vibration and harmonics through the frame that you get with commercial rigs. All of the rigs I looked at were either just not rigid enough and/or wouldn't allow my pedal set up to be used without butchering them,therefore defeating the point.Its heavy,but static anyway in our games room and its rigidity is vastly superior to any commercially available rig. The bottom line is if you want something to really suit your needs you either get someone to make it or if you are in a position to do so, make it yourself.
Ive had this for 2 months now. Im 6'2 (187cm) tall and biggest problem for me is wrist angle on the wheel. It gets uncomfortable for me on a longer session. QC on my unit was bit lacking as I had to hammer the wheel baseplate to get it to fit. I replaced the allen bolts on the frame for standard m6/50mm bolts for easier adjustability. All in all pretty satisfied with the product. This is the only option for this specific niche of cockpits.
With my frame I don't have enough up and down adjustability on the wheel for optimal wrist angle. Meaning, in my driving position my wrist is not straight which leads to wrist strains on longer stints. Mind you, I'm an arpg gamer so my wrists might be shot anyway 😅 I noticed this issue this weekend when I drove for 4 hours or so with my 9mn moza. I'll play around a bit with the little adjustability. I can report back to you.
I got a black one almost 2 years ago, think it was pretty new back then. It has stood the test of time quite well, it still looks and drives like on day 1. Main reason i got it was because i wanted something sturdy for strong DD wheels, but also didn't have a dedicated place for a rig. So this thing is absolutely perfect for me, because it very light and fairly small while still being sturdy. So i have it standing somewhere in a corner, and then when i want to drive i just slide it over to my PC and get driving. Even after 2 years i am still very happy with this rig.
please tell us/me a little more about comfort of the seat (long sessions) and longevity (does it wear out or get softer/looser?)
same here, I actually put wheels on the underside of the wheelbase so I can roll it around the apartment lols
@@AtomicAndi I've done a few endurance races in it, without any problems. Before i had a wheelstand and gaming chair setup. Back then i had a lot of leg and shoulder pain after long session, but since i got the playseat i could drive for hours without issues. The ergonomics are good and the seat is comfy. As for wear, my initial worry was that the velcro straps on the seat might wear out, but they are still as tight as ever. The metal frame stands the test of time ofc, no worries there, no scratches in the coating either
thx, quite a bit more helpful than the generic Will talk ;-) @@Netrole
I agree with the OP. I’ve had mine a bit over a year. Comfortable and breathable. No issues for longer sessions and no signs of wear. The Velcro is still holding very well and seems as good as day one. I recently got a Simgic DD and I don’t notice any flex at all. I would buy again without hesitation.
I bought this when the DD pro + came out coming from a playset trophy the wife made me keep in the closet. She actually said this one looks cool enough to keep in the living room. Best sim purchase I've made lol
This is the trophy
You got a keeper bruh, don’t take her for granted….
I have it. It’s solid and beautiful.
It has one single BIG issue. It really destroys your lumbar zone. That belt in the back is not short enough to substain the lumbars.
Many people complained about that and put a lil pillows between the belt and the seat itself.
That title really gives a negative impression, while the actual review is actually rather positive. This is a stellar cockpit if you want to graduate from good old Playseat Challenge and don't have a space or budget for full size rig. Only a sim snob would consider this a bad cockpit.
I do wonder tho why not just buy a car. You can pick one up from the junkyard for like $100-500 and then just remove the windshield or keep it on and put the screen on there.
@@dnegel9546Let me just carry a junker up three flights into my condo. Can’t wait to have rust, dirt, oil, and who-knows-what leak out onto the floor.
I’m sure the chair that’s sat exposed to the elements for years is also mold-free and highly supportive.
Depends on the tone you read it in 😂
@@dnegel9546the wife would love to see that in the lounge room 😂
@@QuickSticks8771 🤣
I personally run this cockpit with my DD pro, took some engineering to mount my shifter, e brake and button boxes. But overall it's a great lightweight cockpit that is quite easy to slide around. It suits my needs well.
great, someday you may upgrade!
Alu rig on wheel pretty easy to move ;-)
how many flex u notice?
Had mine for several months, and it has been solid. Took a few tries to get my Fanatec DD 8nm wheel right where I wanted it, but now that I have, the cockpit is super comfortable. Zero flex from the cockpit and everything feels super sturdy. Highly recommended!
I use this rig with Simagic Alpha mini, manual shifter, e brake, p1000i hydraulic pedals with haptic, and Quest 3 in VR. In AMS2 it's so addicting
is it stabile? Im thinking of same combo
@@fitnesschefen BUHP
I bought a Trophy because it is hands down the best entry/mid level cockpit for me. Amazon delivered it next day, I didn't have to wait weeks, or months for some random dude to send me 8020 (which I would just buy locally and design myself) before rummaging through a junk yard for a WRX seat. The Trophy is perfect for what I needed. It's easy to move, easy to adjust, and insanely comfortable, imperceptible flex, and it looks fucking awesome in my game room. Logi G923 fit perfectly (I'm 5' 10"), and so does the Fanatec DD Pro I upgraded to.
I’ve had mine for 6 months. I bought it because I was moving from my desk to a dedicated rig. I didn’t want a full 8020 rig, but wanted something more than a playseat challenge. This fit that sweet spot perfectly. I love it. I use it with a Logitech G29 that I’ve had for about 4 years. For my skill level it’s pretty much a perfect setup, but I do want to upgrade the wheel/pedals in the future.
hi! i'm looking at buying something like this and Im interested in knowing the height of the wheel deck from the floor. Could you measure it for me? I can't find it anywhere. Thanks mate
@@fermillo65 Yea man, because I'm using a G29 I have the wheel deck angled slightly down into my lap. The bottom of the deck closest to me is at 23 inches. The top of the deck furthest away from me is 25 inches.
If I made it perfectly level the deck would sit at about 24.25 inches away from the floor.
Hope this helps!
If you're willing to drill holes in the frame, running cables through is fairly easy. A YT search will lead to how I did it on my Playseat Trophy.
Good advice for people that are handy but I can see people messing that up bad LOL. But I searched the videos you mention and wow that looks like a fun project. My idea would have been to 3d Print some cable ties like the ones the challenge x has but bigger. However, running the cables through looks like a much cleaner idea and worth the work
Zip ties boss…Zip ties…😅
It has been excellent for me. My main reason for picking it over a profile rig was the size and ability to move around as I can’t have a dedicated space. I actually got a hook that I attached to my wall to stand it upright when not in use. Works great and saves a ton of space.
Caster wheels can very easily be attached to a profile setup, and if you use the right connectors, it can be partially disassembled or adjusted to make it more compact to fit in a storage area.
If you use 8020 profiles, it can be very light and moveable with casters.
You're paying a lot extra for a very small space savings.
@@tarushdei some people have stairs which makes the Trophy the obvious choice.
What I don‘t see a lot being mentioned is the simple fact that it just looks beautiful and clean. Especially the logitech version
Mine is still perfect 😁 love it and about rigidity I love how it is because the force feedback transfers to the rest of the rig and the tubes act like a buttkicker and its directional too, when I hit a right curb I feel the curb on my right leg, feet and buttcheck
How many Nm do you run and whats the flex like?
the playseat trophy, the logitech DD wheel, pro pedals and shifter, paired with PSVR2 and GT7.
it's like a dream, i love it.
I have the same setup with PSVR2. it's awful how the headrest pushes your head forward when you wear the headset. It's really not good for your neck.
@@Dieterbesame problem here, i use a pillow on my back to push me bit more forward and another small pillow to rest my head so it doesnt push as much. give it a go!
Bought a black one last month. I'm limited on space and needed something sturdy for the DD wheel. Highly recommend it to anyone.
I just got a black one last month too. I need something I can drag to and away from my PC, as I don't have a dedicated PC for sim racing. It's super comfortable for me, and I'm very happy with it.
How many Nm do you run? and whats the flex like?
@@braydenjones603 How many Nm do you run and whats the flex like?
@@TheDoctor46vr I'm using 12 Nm and there's no noticeable flex.
I just bought this rig and haven't mounted anything to it yet, but I was very impressed by the build process and I absolutely love how you are given everything that you might need for any future upgrades or changes to your gear. I can also say that the gear/handbrake holder is excellent. (much like the rest of this rig) Once everything was in place and tightened down it stayed sturdy and surprisingly stable.
could've got the tony kanaan rig which is the exact same thing in person at a physical micro center location for 300 dollars cheaper.
@@invertedjokerrthat isn’t even listed for sale at microcenter only his profile digs and accessories for them
@@invertedjokerrthat’s a full sized 8020 rig and doesn’t come with a seat. This is smaller much easier to move around and comes with a seat. While they’re both rigs they’re not comparable, and definitely not exactly the same like you said.
@@Bigheadedwon nope. The rig I’m speaking of is only available in store and not online. It is the exact same thing as this. I have the play seat version upstairs and the tony kanaan downstairs. Same dimensions minus the kanaan version doesn’t have holes for the shifter plate. If you’re a man, you can drill them yourself. Maybe go do some research or googling first next time. Google ‘Tony kanaan monza rig’ it is the same. Get embarrassed and then delete your comment
I love your videos. your reviews are some of the best around. Its really nice to get quality reviews before going out to purchase sim racing gear considering how expensive this hobby is. Keep up the great work.
Glad you’re finding them helpful. Thanks for the comment :)
I went with a tube frame GT Omega Titan due to the width and the ability to add wheels. It rolls right into a closet for easy storage once you remove the shifter. The seat is also easily adjustable for friends which is very valuable.
Hi Will, I sat on the fence due to content creators giving it a hard time on price versus a dedicated rig. I took the plunge a year ago for the awesome looking grey one. I have my DD Pro mounted to play ACC on PS5. I am so, so pleased with it. The build quality is fantastic, and it looks really sweet, so I get away with it sitting on the corner of the living room. If I decide to go super wide and PC in my office, its office first sim second, so I will still need this to sit in front of my desk and move out the way for work. I have a large house I could accommodate a full rig, I just don't want an ugly extruded aluminium rig. Its also super comfy, I can do a 3 hour on ACC and still feel fresh at the end. There is defo a market for these. I agree they need to make a couple of small adaptions 2 holes for running cables internally, there is many vids on YT of people DIY jobs. It would also really benefit from discrete roller wheels just in front of where the fronts touches the ground. This would make it super easy to move about, which is the main market for this. I Plan on adding some wheels to mine and I might drill and reem it for cables while i'm at it. Anyway I adore mine. Just put your self in the mind set of a casual sim racer that has £££ and you will soon see this sat in the corner of my large living room 🙂
Bought a Titan cockpit from GT Omega myself and it's absolutely brilliant. Very rigid, nice-looking, a bit cheaper than the Playseat and requiring little space with the ability to move it around if need be. These kinds of cockpits are great for somewhat regular living and similar
rooms! Really love the setup, which I think perfectly hits the sweet spot of having an advanced rig without going full pro.
I picked this Cockpit up for my first rig a few months ago and have major complaints complaints. I can sit in it for hours and not get uncomfortable, I am 5'9" and 140lbs for reference. It took a few sessions to dial in the the best adjustments to use that fit me and felt comfortable for hours or play at a time. I really like how easy it is to move around when put together and with wheel and pedals mounted. Mine did come with velcro to help wires but the velcro was only one sided so it was not able to be used since it was missing half its functionality. Really the lack of being able to do something about the wiring is the only real negative I have with the Rig. I got wires being held on with twist ties, while it looks bad it gets the job done well enough. I have used the G923 for a couple months and then upgraded to the DD Pro 8nm and the Rig held up fine with both. The wheel mount needs to be tightened pretty well or the wheels can can move it when the force gets high. Overall I am very happy with the Playseat Rig and would recommend it especially if you need to move it around. Neither the wheels/pedals nor the rig came with hardware to mount them together so I did have to go to the hardware store and get bolts and nuts. Really wish they would come with hardware or at least say it doesn't come with them and recommend what size bolts/nuts are needed.
*no major complaints
With the wheel deck you can take it off and reverse it, so your wheel is further away
Yeah this what I did with my Trophy.
I have done this also for my simagic.
with some wheelbases you can even turn it upside down to lower the wheel, I have my R5 like this and I know it also works with the fanatec 5/8nm DD, some bases might have clearance issues with the bar behind it like this though.
@@johanlawrence4247no way? I need this lol I'm a lil dude 5'4 and I've always just had the base tilted downwards a little. Going to try this tomorrow 👍🏼
@@johanlawrence4247literally replied seconds ago, and now that I'm looking at it, I don't know how that never crossed my mind to just flip it lol thanks. Definitely doing this tomorrow
back then when i bought the playseat thropy i had to decide between the trophy and a aluminium rig from a polish aluminum profile shop + a cheap car seat. i took the trophy because i wanted to get the rig fast so i could spend my holidays with simracing and not spending time waiting for the profiles to be delivered, building the rig, getting all the right hardware to mount the seat plus it was 200€ cheaper than aluminium + seat.
How many Nm do you run and whats the flex like?
I have had the rig for six months now and i would recommend it. I have a Logitech dd pro and pedals and apart from being very sturdy, you feel the FFB throughout the rig frame. Left, right, center, even the painted chevrons! And i use it with VR.
Mate, did you get the playseat logitech or this exact one, the playseat trophy ? And if the trophy, why not the logitech playseat?
@@avishaiankri playseat trophy in Black. They are rhe same, in is just branded with the logitech logo
I use a Trakracer TR8 tubular rig with a GT style seat and I originally bought it years ago because it got good reviews, looked aesthetically pleasing in the corner of my dining room, and had an integrated TV/monitor mount. I ended up modifying the mount to allow the screen to move closer to my wheelbase (chasing FOV) but I race exclusively in VR now so the screen isn't important anymore. If I was starting again, I'd go profile but it does everything I need and I can't justify swapping over now.
I purchased the Logitech edition a few months ago, along with the Logitech Pro Wheel & Pedal. Previously I was using a Wheel Stand Pro Deluxe with a G29. I game in my room so I need something with a small foot print. This was a huge improvement for me in terms of comfort, immersion, the adjustments. Assembly was relatively smooth so I have no complaints there. I do recall there being a number of Velcro pieces but to be honest I cant remember if they came with the Logitech Pro wheel & pedal or the Playseat. It is very light and can be easily moved around as needed, this is with the wheel and pedal on.
For those who may be worried about damaging/scratching the material of the cockpit, I recommend getting the mat that Playseat also sells. It's the perfect size for the Playseat and helps protect both the cockpit and tile/floor. It also helps to stop the cockpit from sliding around.
One thing to consider is, while you have many adjustments and they aren't hard to do, it will still become tiresome making them to suit other people. If you will be the only person using the cockpit, then you''re in the clear but if you have to share it with multiple people it will become a hassle.
As mentioned in the video, there will be some flex but it is minimal. You don't notice it while racing.
because it has a natural true force, i love the vibration it gives to my whole rig, combined with fanatec shifter, it vibrates even better
I have got a black one with gearshift support for one year+ combined with Fanatec DD pro, V3 and shifter. It is perfect for my height (180 cm) and V3s are easy to mount providing extra solidity to the "sweet" pedal tray. I also installed the old belt CSL wheel base and it was a "match made in heaven". The gearshift support holds the hefty Fanatec shifter like a champ. It can be considered the best choice for amateurs or semi-pro simracers.
I bought one almost 2 years ago… and it’s still good as new. Very sturdy, very confy, and adjustable. If you want a good “rig”, sturdy enough for a dd or any wheel, but without having to go big with a proper rig… this is it
How many Nm do you run and whats the flex like?
@@TheDoctor46vr i use the Fanatec Clubsport DD+ wheelbase with a pretty strong setting, and there is no flex at all
It's the perfect seat for someone that wants a more light weight and comfortable rig with a lower profile. For me it's the best middle-ground between full sim-rig and foldable budget alternatives. I own the Trophy myself and I really hope they continue with this middle-segment of products for years to come.
I've had this over a year with CSL DD and love it. As others have mentioned it's very strong but also light enough to easily move if need be. Highly recommended. And the Mrs test, yes 😃
I bought one a few months ago because I had limited space and I wanted something that looked decent in my small space and still gave me a decent racing rig. I am using the Simagic Alpha Ultimate and P1000 pedals (with hydraulic upgrade). I love it. It's compact, but comfortable. Little to no flex/movement. And it looks good when not in use (it's sleek and with the red and black of the Simagic pedals it looks sharp). It's adjustable enough and I have managed to find a great racing position. Plus, I can move it/store it really easily. I would highly recommend if you don't have the space for a larger, more permanent rig.
I know you wouldn't have it set like this but how much flex is there at 20nm? How many kg is your pedals set at?
I experience zero flex with my Alpha U. I am a ‘weekend warrior’ type racer, so I definitely don’t have it dialed-in at a pro level, but I have experience nothing that makes me regret my decision. The ONLY thing I would change is that I feel the seating position is a touch too low for my liking, and I feel it puts my eye-level just below where I would prefer it to be. But I adjust in the software and I’m good to go.
I’m not near the rig so I can’t check pedal settings. From memory I have the elastomers on the relatively firm/little travel side, and I don’t experience any flex in the pedal plate.
@@jc_yyz when you get to your rig it would be awesome if you test it at max Nm and find out how many kg of force your using on the pedals
@@TheDoctor46vr Just sat down between holiday festivities and maxed out (in my settings window, based on my settings) at 37KG of force and no movement.
@@jc_yyz thanks man, how many nm is the wheel base set at usually?
I just ordered one of these in black 2 days ago from Amazon. Also ordered Fanatec Gran Turismo DD pro 8NM package with 2 pedals. Hopefully, it will come before the weekend. Will be my first racing rig. I'm looking forward to giving this a go.
Was thinking about this exact same setup. How’s it been so far?
@x2pursue it's been good so far, enjoying it a lot.
@@O-Friendly 3 month update? How much dust does it have on it? haha.
@@dennisrehmann2373 No dust, still using it. Actually just finished kicking some butt with it. Going to bed now
Owned one of these for about a year before selling it to a friend and upgrading to an ASR1 and an NRG seat for basically the same price (I'm in North America and used a discount code for the ASR1). It's a great set up for what it is: rigid enough for low to mid range NM DD bases and load cell pedals but also light enough to slide/move around a room or store out of the way. Looks as though some people even hang them up on the wall when not in use.
The main complaint I had about this rig are the sliding "size" extender rails. Ended up having to fully extend them because anything shorter would just expand under heavy braking over time. Have read solutions where people have mixed grease and sand to keep it from fully extending to the large adjustment under breaking. Overall though better than any foldable/wheelstand rig but not quite as good as a full aluminum profile rig and bucket seat.
If I were to do it again I would have skipped the Playseat Trophy and gone right to the ASR1 and proper seat but I'm glad I was able to experience the best budget all in one tubular solution currently. The seat on the Trophy is arguably more comfortable than my NRG seat, even after long play sessions and the lightness of the rig combined with the nature of the hammock style seat made the bass shakers that much more impactful. That being said the profile rig is way more customizable and the Playseat doesn't even have a decent shifter/handbrake mount currently that isn't overpriced and poorly designed. All just food for thought.
Yep. I've had it with the tubes sliding out. I have the pedals as close as they can be. I can't reach them once the tubes slide out to the large setting. I'm so annoyed with this and how much I spent for this rig.
How many Nm do you run and whats the flex like?
We buy this because it's sturdy yet very lightweight. For us who own a direct drive wheel but have to move around the cockpit, this is great.
I use this one, if you are the only driver who use this seat it's good. It's very stable, nothing moves when I use my Fanatec DD with Loadcell. I can Recommend it for drivers who don't use a shifter or handbrake. Also you have room for your legs. It's also very light, no Problem to move it around. For low Budget it's very good 🏁🌍😎✌️
I've had one for a month.
The lumbar support is subpar. It gave me lots of back pain during use. I also found the wheelplate not being adjustable is very annoying. When youre in a suboptimal position for a couple hours you notice the inconvenience of it. Even in a 2hr stint in an endurance race it already bothered me.
The pedal deck flexes with decent force on braking. And since the whole thing is kinda light, if you put it on a smooth floor it can move during big moments of ffb. Also everytime you sit down it moves, making you re-center the thing while on the chair. I also regularly hit my knees on the extended bits on the wheeldeck
Those are all inconveniences that you shouldnt have with a rig at this price point imo. A profile rig is way way better
Hi mate, I'm 13stone, 5'11, and fi and that my ideal seating position with three trophy is brilliant. I'm medium on the tube, seat half reclined and have the pedals at a perfect angle. I have the wheel deck flipped so the short side faces you, which moves the wheel further away. I've got the deck angled down ever so slightly. I have osteoarthritis and find the seating good. The lumbar support is good I've got it just in the right spot. Everyone is different and what works for me may not work for you. Its light, easy to build and configure when compared to a profile rig. The seat is breathable where as most of the cheaper seats for profile rigs are pleather which make me sweat and then the seats are flat so you need brackets to angle it. Or get a more expensive bucket seat with brackets... I did a lot of research before opting for the trophy and for me it's been nothing but perfect. Using it with a fanatec dd 8nm, loadcell (I've seen zero plex in the pedal deck btw)
@@StickyGeko I think this difference in experience shows what's the main issue with this rig is. For some it works well, but for others its simply not adjustable enough to be comfortable in the longer sessions.
Yep. It’s impossible for something like this to be perfectly suited to everyone.
i bought one almost 2 years ago, and its pretty awesome for the living room. I would like to see the new Clubsport DD mounted on it as im waiting for mine from Fanatec :D
Bought this frame (logitech version) for GT7 on a Logitech pro setup paired with the family TV. Mounting holes line up perfectly for the wheel and pedals. I also have to pass a wife test, which really means I need to store this out of sight. And that place is the basement. It's still light enough to haul upstairs, even with the pedals and wheel mounted. It's not easy because of the size, but doable for a man of average strength.
I used three of the heaviest strength drywall hooks (each 160lbs) and just hang it on the wall behind the entertainment system. Wife check passed!
Had mine for about 6 months, it's been a joy to use. The seat is really nice IMO, it kinda forms around me in a nice way. I prefer it over actual racing seats, most of which tend to be uncomfortable for people who aren't realatively tall.
I'm 172 tall, 70kilos. I have the pit set pretty close to the smallest setting with the wheel very close cause I like being stuck in really snug. It would work fine for shorter people. Maybe even kids if you raise the seat back upright (mine is leaned back a bit.)
Just gonna pop in once more, had it for close to a year now and it's held up great. I've used it for about 300-400 hours at this point and there is no wear anywhere. Still in perfect shape. The seat seems to be made from very resistant material cause it literally looks brand new. I have a load cell pedal as well so I squeeze myself back in that seat pretty hard when I brake, still no stretching or wear.
Very satisfied. Very happy it fit me as well as it does. That was my main concern when going with this kind of pit over a profile rig, I was afraid it just wouldn't fit me. It's surprisigngly adjustable. I'm using the wheel base mount backwards to get it even more snug.
Anyways, I'd recommend this to people who feel like they want this. It does look super cool and it feels very much like getting into a race car. You have to slide in like you're getting into a supercar. Makes me feel cool every time!
@@JimmyNuisance How many Nm do you run? and whats the flex like?
Have seen a few reviews about this, thanks for going so in-depth and being upfront and clear about all the pros and cons. Amazing content as usual. Has made me decide to take the leap on this one.
How is it now after 5 months?
I considered getting one of these but ended up getting alu profiles anyway, the main reason being that the cost of the Playseat trophy was very close to what I paid for a rig + a brand new car seat. For me, having a proper car seat is a clear win because of the adjustability and comfort
Which one did you get.
I've had a 2007 model Playseat Evolution in alcantara finish for about 11 years now. It feels great to drive in and I can't see any possible reason I'd ever need to replace it. You'll fairly quickly find yourself replacing a wheel or a monitor or whatever, but the chassis is the one part of your rig you only need to buy once if you don't half-ass it. I mean... It's still shaped like a bucket seat. It's still adjustable. I added an official gear shifter attachment for about £60 a few years ago. It's physically incapable of becoming outdated or breaking. Unless I win the lottery and start looking at motion rigs.
I adore my playseat trophy g edition. It's a smaller form factor than any profile rig, and is very light should I need to move it to access wiring etc. Very sturdy, with no flex. I went from a TR8 Pro, which weighed an absolute ton, and was much bigger. This is a better racing experience for me and takes up a fraction of the space.
I've had this rig for 1,5 years with a Fanatec GT DD Pro (8 nm) and the V3 pedals. It's very comfortable, and I'm very happy with it. Also have the shifter mount for use as a mouse tray. I don't seem to have really any flex on the length adjustment like there is on the video, maybe because I have it set to a shorter length. Also the V3 pedals have their own baseplate so no flex on the pedals either. The two things of concern with this rig are lack of quick adjustability if you want to have friends try it, and also the lack of a dedicated steering wheel base height adjustment. But if you can live with those, it's a great rig for sure! Highly recommended.
This is perfect for anyone who doesn't have the space or money for a dedicated rig. It's very easy to move this around. I use my monitor for racing AND other games so it's not like I can just place a rig permanently in front of it. So no you don't "just buy a rig" there are things to be considered.
I have this - if you need rigid rig that can be moved, this is excellent. The rigidness and movability comes at a premium, but it's worth it in my opinion. Also, their CS is excellent.
I have had mine (Black) for a little over a year now with no issues. It's paired with a Logitech G29 and PRO Racing Pedals
Had the Logitech Grey Playseat for almost a year now and still loving it presence in my small little living room. Stick 4 pieces of felt-pads floor protect and l can push the sim around (not on carpet) whenever l need space without hurting my back. I m 1.8m but setting my seat length to the shortest for the rally-car feels. Can literally sleep in it as well. Yes it's that comfortable, cooling as well. Shipping from Amazon USA is expensive but worth it.
Have one myself now for several months and I can mostly agree with what you've said in the video although using fanatec's v3 pedals is really no issue in terms of flex. However I'm already upgrading to 8020 rig since lack of customizations is a thing with this rig. While rig is pretty rigid and comfortable I can highlight some of the issues that I've experienced. For me, it's really low and getting in and out is a bit annoying, fastening underneath the seat kept falling off especially when getting out so every now and then I had to fasten it again. While it's relatively light but add heavy pedals and a heavy wheel base(I have DD GT PRO) and you end up where the front of the wheel is heavy and rear end is light, moving it isn't something you'll want to be doing a lot, I solved that by attaching caster wheels to the front and it made moving it around that much easier. If you don't need to move it around then I'd go for 8020 rig since in terms of space it's taking it's just a tiny bit less than the most popular aluminum profile rigs and since for me space has become a non issue and I can set for a permanent rig location it has become redundant. I'm not sure I agree on 'this looks better in a room than aluminum profile rigs', in my opinion new black profile rigs don't look any worse.
Would love to see a short video how you solved it with wheels, as that would help allot of racers who has this seat
I to would like to see the wheels as I plan on doing similar
I had some 2" thick pine boards laying around that I got bored and milled up one day. Cut a bunch of it up and made a rig for my wheel and pedals. Made a pedestal and put in some drawer slides that I found in a discarded cabinet on the side of the road. Had some Paracord from a project that I threaded between the two rails for a seat bottom. After I put everything together I was out of a few dollars for some lag bolted to tie everything together. Fun little day project. Now I have a roadside junk TV that I fixed bolted to the wheel pedestal that slides in and out with the wheel to get out and some castors to roll it around.
Such a fantastic amount of effort that went into this video, thank you! Love the checklist at the end to make sure you covered everything…. It’s so hard to make a decision on something like this without such a detailed review! Unfortunately adding this to the living room was not an option here (as understanding as my wife is, that is a step too far 😅), but we’re almost finished on converting the cellar and this feels like the perfect way to bring my love of racing to the new man cave :-D. Subscribed!!
If only there was a keyboard shelf and a mouse shelf, it'd be perfect! I could live there.
I have the Playseat Trophy with a Simagic Alpha U and P2000 pedals. Love it so far. Small footprint!
I have the mini. So no problems with the U? Nice to know if i upgrade.
@@Gepeperde Had it for around half a year now, but no problems with the Alpha U or with the pedals. The massive P2000 base plate adds a lot of extra stability!
I'd say its much sturdier than it looks. Very impressive for the small footprint
The "wetsuit material" (seat) can perhaps be a bit squeeky during heavy breaking, and you can't adjust the pedals into a proper formula position (only formula/gt hybrid). But other than that I'm super happy with it. Use it for maybe 2-3 session per week
@@sebastianmandrean Hydraulic not for me. Is recommended for daily use or close to that. I use the rig mostly on a Sunday. So the seller advised loadcell instead.
@@Gepeperde Simagic has the P1000 pedals without hydraulics!
@@sebastianmandrean i have the asetek forte pedals.
Bought this because of looks AND rigidity in use with DD base and a LC brake and was not nearly expecting it to be so well suited for racing.
It stays in my mancave and I use it nearly daily for a few minutes to hours of endurance races from time to time. I don’t have any comparison as this is my first sim right now ever but I won’t have any comparison soon bc this thing is so great.
I just have the „small“ gt dd pro base (8nm) from fanatec and the CSL pedals but that is more than enough for me.
Absolutely can underline everything’s said in the video no additions. 100% buy again.
People have been saying it's expensive, but I think this is pretty well priced especially with other competitors.
I was reading that this was intended for the enhanced feedback mode of the Logitech Pro wheel, and that the flex that is sent from the wheel base to the frame is actually intended to add to immersion (as you're feeling feedback not just through the wheel but through the chassis too). Not sure how true this is in practice though...
Yes, if you HAVE the logitech DD pro wheel you definitely feel the ffb throughout the frame. Left, right, center, you can even fell the chevron paint via the rig. Its like a stereo feeling effect.
Hey I just bought this cockpit 2 weeks ago! Im a beginner and this is my first cockpit. Im very happy with it, I got the same color, and mounted my G Pro to it.
I haven't finished the video but I just ordered one 2 days ago lol..
Only reason I ordered this is because it's light and moves out of the way, even can be hung on a wall with bike hooks.
If I had a dedicated space for an aluminum rig then obviously I would have gone with one of those instead of this.
the advantage of this cockpit is to be able to move it, but it is still quite heavy with a DD on it, it is very comfortable and more rigid than one seems to believe, very robust, now the problem with this cockpit, is that the seat is too low and there is no steering wheel height adjustment, I put the plate in the other direction (below the tube) it went well with my csl dd, like that I I have a view above the steering wheel.
Not bad but I would recommend the GT Omega titan as the best and most rigid tubular cockpit .I went for a Prime aluminium cockpit purely becauas I like my wheel low and with tubular you are very limited as far as wheel height.
Hey! Thanks for putting that up! I just wanted to say I really thought it was really awesome! Love the content! Keep em coming 😁 All the best!
Been rocking this for a good year. It's not ridiculously heavy and can be moved easily, which isn't something you can say for most rigs.
Every profile rig can be equipped with caster rolls, making it arguably even easier to move.
@@schmid1.079 Doesn't make it anymore compact, if seen pictures of people having these vertically against walls or hanging from some hooks. It's also much more compact
@@gerardweistra Fair point about hanging it up, but how is it more compact?
@schmid1.079 it may be just visual but, it looks less massive; like a little less wide and tall
@@gerardweistra Yes, a little. About 5-10 cm in lenght and broadness. I can't see a lot of situations where those matter, and I have a pretty cramped room myself.
cool seat but you know what video we all waiting for as soon as you get better:)
Been working on it. Should hopefully finish shooting tomorrow. Will be a lot of editing though.
@@boostedmedia cool cool no rush a few extra days won't change much. Also think iv seen that seat go on sales often for quite a bit lower than what they ask for full price.
@@Eskoxo yeah, grabbed mine for £349 so ps challenge territory
I agree. The vertical aluminum extrusions that protrude higher than the wheelbase on most aluminum profile rigs break the immersion. They need a better design that can be adjusted vertically without the fixed height of the extrusion.
A friend of mine bought one and its like getting into a cockpit, if anything, its to light !
I'm off to the shops to pick one up ! If i had money for a DD wheel and pro pedals i would'nt buy this frame but as a starter pack, for the price, perfect ! Good review !
I got a playseat challenge 2nd hand from a family friend and I love how you can change the shape of the seat in under a minute. Like formula style layed down to gt3 style sat upright in under a min
Been eyeing this for Black Friday. Hope it goes on sale!
Now test the Playseat Evolution and tell us how much of a PoS it is compared to the trophy. Unbelievable the same company is having those two products
You can turn the wheel deck around for some more adjustability. Have the short side facing you and the back side facing out :)
Weird, my Logitech one came with velcro straps to use, as well as felt pads to have at the bottom that contacts the ground. However I didn't have any extra of those weird washers for accessories.
With that said though, I absolutely love mine. I love using it, and I love looking over to see it. I also love being able to move it about as needed. Definitely happy with my purchase.
I had one like this,if ur not sure buying one, its a no brainer very good quality .
Would be interested to hear your opinions on other profile rigs! I recently purchased a GT Omega Titan and it's only $100 more than this (cost including the RS12 seat) and this things is pretty solid! The pedal plate is way thicker than is shown in the photos, there is a quite solid shifter mount, and while I know there are some people complaining about the wheelbase mount shifting with heavier bases, apparently a few bucks in locking screws/washers essentially solves the problem. Obviously the playseat is for a pretty different market, as the GT Omega Titan is certainly not something you'll be moving around, but thought I'd bring it up since the price point to value ratio seems pretty high!
I found my zero gravity lawn chair slides right up to a Next Level folding Wheel/Pedal stand with shifter mount. Nice cheap setup. I used some hexagonal long nuts to extend the shifter further out to a more natural position. And the wheel is very easy to adjust up or down for different people.
PS: If you prop the rear of your playchair up, it has the effect of lowering the wheel a tad.
Funny that you mention the exact thing @DigitalRelay has done with their Trophy.
Internal cable routing FTW🎉
I have this Rig since March 2023 and use it nearly on daily bases. The seat doesn't have any major issues besides one little corner where the red cover slighly started to peal off, but it is because when I get into and out of the seat I constantly rub myself around it. One thing to note though. If you have a shifter plate mounted and the other side of a rig is against the wall it is slightly complicated to get into it or get out as you need to through your feet over it in the air in a very awkward way
How much did you pay for it?
@@ShaunJacob 599.99 EUR
Good vid! I have had a Logitech edition Trophy with my G Pro DD & Pedals for 6 months with minimal gripes. I Feel you missed on talking about Comfort for extended driving sessions. After getting the rig setup right for my ergonomic profile I have had zero issues induced from the rig playing 6 hours plus. Beyond that the sited issue with the pedal base flex is very specific to either individual mounted pedals or with high force in the brake pedal. For instance with my G pro pedals the base they have eliminated most flex except with the brake force set to 80KG of force or higher than frame flex becomes noticeable but I don’t usually go passed 45KG currently. As for mobility of the frame I live in an apartment and only have space in my bedroom and have to position the rig when in use and than take it down and set it in a out of the way spot I have, being able to move it around with ease is extremely helpful! It only takes me about 60 seconds to set it up and begin power up. This really very important when you do not have a dedicated sole use sim racing place available to you or need to move the rig around. Those big aluminum frame rigs eat up a lot of space.
I have this rig and I love it. Some of us have to share our entertainment area with other people, and this rig never gets complaints. I just stow it to the right of my entertainment unit when not in use.
How many Nm do you run and whats the flex like?
@@TheDoctor46vr8Nm but it would take more.
@@weirdomonkey I just found an old reply from Will and he run this at mostly 12Nm which would be the small flex we were seeing.
My playseat trophy has a moza r12 and crp pedals attached to it and I LOVE IT
I've had this seat for a year now exactly. I was skeptical at first about the price and whether it would hold up against my Podium DD1 Base, but it has been worth it every time. I have driven 2k hours in ACC, using pedals with 90 kg load cell (75kg using) and absolutely no flex to date. Very good and very stable cockpit with very comfortable seat. I would buy it again
I know you wouldn't have it set to this but how much flex is there at 20nm?
@@TheDoctor46vr I tried it at maximum 16Nm and no Flex. Very stable design
@@playa4life306 set to 75kg is a lot! I wonder what Will has his set to because you can see a fair amount of flex when he uses it. I wish he would have said so, I don't understand why he would leave out such an important detail in a review.
If I were him I would keep testing different amounts of brake force until I found no flex.
@@TheDoctor46vrIn the video the pedals are mounted directly to the rig and don't have their own aluminum plate like my V3, so flex a bit on the ring I think. It depends on which pedals you want to use. I don't feel any flex with my pedals when I set them to 90kg
@@playa4life306 he also tested the V2's that have their own plate and they flexed as well, not as much but they still did.
This is what I raced you in on bathurst mate! Haha
I recommend everyone cover parts with cloth tape so the fabric doesn't squeak on the metal!
I can't have a permanent position for my rig so this lets me move it back and forth, it also looks quite neat, been very happy with it, I do run the wheel deck backwards to allow for some more space behind the wheel.
Ha I run mines backwards as well lol
How many Nm do you run and whats the flex like?
I have the Logitech one , got the shifter plate with the hf8 rumble and Logitech g pro wheel, the true force plus hf8 is insane you can really feel the curbs . I have it on carpet I like that you can slide it around and out of the way when needed . Worth every penny !
I've got Sprints mounted to this thing using their baseplate connected to the tray which helps resolve a lot of the flex. Since it's lifted by the baseplate I also slapped a BST-1 under the pedals and another one using a playseat challenge 3rd party connector to the tube under your thighs, those are the same diameter as the OG playseat so those connector peripherals still work. Then I bought a bike phone holder holds a 9-keypad on the left to navigate menus. This sort of rig really benefits from qr2 otherwise its a PITA to stand up and get out of. As other have said you can whip the wheel mount around. Basically have this thrown in a corner connected via extension cables, if you're VR only it's a great solution. Oh yeah, if you get the gear/handbrake holder you can just slap some very short aluminum profile onto it and you can mount just about anything you'd want. Got Heusinkveld handbrake on there no problem.
How many Nm do you run and whats the flex like?
I bought a 6 Sigma Slim with the adjustable seat for ~$700. I think at this price point, the 6 Sigma Slim is way more future proof when it comes to add-ons and way more sturdy. I've never used this Playseat rig, but I would probably advise folks to wait a few weeks, save up some more money and go for a solid rig. This Playseat chassis just seems to limit you if you plan on adding other pieces to your rig and the price isn't even that far off aluminum rigs.
I love mine .Have the Logitech trophy one and it’s amazing .It can slide as decor too when not in use haha .Very stilish,sturdy and awesome for the G PRO wheel
Just bought this for first rig comments def make me feel like I made a solid purchase
Two weeks later and super solid so far for the price no flex anywhere
Had mine for a month now , love it so far ! Very comfortable, even for long sessions
How many Nm do you run and whats the flex like?
My Trophy came with velcro strips for cable management. Not sure why this one didn't. Had mine about 6 months now and I have zero regrets. Very comfortable and rigid. Zero complaints. I've also noticed that anyone who seems to knock it has no firsthand experience with it, and they all promote the more expensive rig they bought. So don't pay much attention to the haters. They just don't understand that they paid $100+ more for a product that isn't as good overall. Every profile or other rig I've used has at least one noticable area that falls short of the Trophy. From an overall quality, comfort, and rigidity standpoint, you get far more for your dollar here. Quick adjustability to fit others with different heights is the only thing it's lacking. Your not going to be switching between a 6'1" person and a 5'9" person quickly. That's the only real downside.
This looks an upgraded evolution of the Fanatec CSL seat from back in the day. I have owned the CSL seat since 2014 and still use it with my Logitech G Pro as of late. You are right tube designs do lack rigidity or at least mine does. But I would have to say it has stood the test time for sure lol. I bought that thing right before Fanatec discontinued them on a Black Friday sale. Best $99 bucks I ever spent on sim racing gear. This looks to be more versatile and rigid though.
One of the biggest issues I have had with the CSL seat is pedal mounting rigidity. I have to mount the pedals very close to the seat to make sure they dont rock backwards when you put force on them. Because of that mounting configuration it makes getting the seating configuration very tricky. Im 5’ 8” and anyone any taller than me would not be able to use the CSL seat because of this unless they are ok with the pedals raising almost 2 inches off the floor under hard braking lol.
The profile rig looks to have a more solid pedal mounting design in comparison though. And it also seems to have more adjustability on the wheel deck, seating position, and pedal deck. I think I’ll be upgrading soon because the CSL seat is getting very long in the tooth. So many options these days though.
I run this with the Podium DD1 and V3 pedals with the shifter mount and fanatec shifter. Everything is perfect to me, very stable, no flex and an extremely comfortable seat. I use a NLR floor standing monitor mount for my 48” LG C2 Oled and the ability to slide the playseat trophy back and sit in the seat and play my PS5 is perfect. That is disappointing you didn’t get the cable mgmt, my Logitech edition did come with them.
How many Nm do you run and whats the flex like?
I got the Playseat Trophy in black about half a year ago for a Fanatec DD Wheel. So far i don't have any complaints in terms of wear and tear or the quality of the Seat. Treated properly it will most likely serve for a very long time and should for whatever reason break the fabric of the seat do i hope to be able to get a replacement coz that tubeframe is probably going to outlive me.
With no room properly dedicated to my sim racing addiction, I needed to find a rig that could be transportable from behind a shelf to the center of my living-room. This is just perfect for that, as you can easily fix 2 wheels under the pedal plate to move it from one side of the apartment to the other. I literally need 2 minutes to install it for a session. So practicality: 10/10
Driving with a Fanatec DD1 and V3 pedals with the BPK installed, I frankly don’t notice (even if there may be some) any flex at all. I can imagine that the flex of the pedal plate is reduced by the overall structure of the V3 pedals, as the tension points are on the sides. The only flex that I can feel, is from the seat. But it is not a problem to me, even if of course it would be better without any flex at all.
And regarding the seating position - being personally quite picky about that topic - I can easily set up a perfect position, at least for GT driving. I am 184cm tall (if this info can help someone).
And regarding the aesthetic, just remove all the stickers and it directly looks less like a “toy”. Even quite serious imo!
Can’t recommend it enough 👍🏼
Removing the black rubber cover on top of the v2 elites let's you use a couple of longer m6 bolts straight into the trophy's pedal tray. In conjunction with the two rear points gives a solid, no hassle way, to mount these pedals to the trophy. I managed it solo with the pedal tray sttached to the trophy inside of 10 mins.
How many Nm do you run and whats the flex like?
ps. It would be cool if you made a little video about the V2 fitment, I don't expect you to undo it all but just point out exactly what you're talking about.
fair play to playseat for listening to the feedback on the TV vesa mount
I just got mine yesterday. Logitech pro DD wheel and pedals. Very nice and stable, comfortable, and since I need to move it out if the way of my home theater space when not racing, it's perfect. I sit 65 inches away from my 130 inch wide screen.
Assembly took about an hour and then I spent another hour dialing in my specific position and cable management. I used zip ties (though mine did come with cable velcro ) for a clean look.
I have the Logitech version and there were the Velcro cable management was included. I bought mine in September 23.
I have used Playseat challenge, trophy and EVO and i prefer Trophy. I used it with DD2 and V3 pedals and i had absolutely no flex issues. I am 1.75m in height and only thing i had is that i sat bit too low in comparison where the wheel is and the wheel could have been tilted more back but other than that it was perfect for my back and i was super happy with it.
After trying out and looking at a multitude of rigs and having the facility/equipment to build actual real cars decided to build my own.Wanting to use a proper FIA approved adjustable hydraulic pendulum pedal set up from my old race car it needed to be very sturdy. and using leftover cage tubing from various car projects and a recaro wingback on a Ford Mondeo drivers seat frame for full adjustment along with the steering mounting and pedal box,it took me about two weekends,I mounted a tubular slide mount to fit a tv,made from 60mm exhaust pipe it will support any size or number of screens you care to fit to it,mine has a 60" samsung led on it and its rock steady,and I used a 9"touchscreen android device for a dashboard. Given all the stuff I had already and disregarding the seat I bought the whole rig cost around £150 including powder coating.I hate stuff moving around even slightly and the transferring of vibration and harmonics through the frame that you get with commercial rigs. All of the rigs I looked at were either just not rigid enough and/or wouldn't allow my pedal set up to be used without butchering them,therefore defeating the point.Its heavy,but static anyway in our games room and its rigidity is vastly superior to any commercially available rig. The bottom line is if you want something to really suit your needs you either get someone to make it or if you are in a position to do so, make it yourself.
Ive had this for 2 months now. Im 6'2 (187cm) tall and biggest problem for me is wrist angle on the wheel. It gets uncomfortable for me on a longer session. QC on my unit was bit lacking as I had to hammer the wheel baseplate to get it to fit. I replaced the allen bolts on the frame for standard m6/50mm bolts for easier adjustability.
All in all pretty satisfied with the product. This is the only option for this specific niche of cockpits.
Could you clarify what you mean by the wrist angle issue? I'm 6'5" and considering buying one of these.
With my frame I don't have enough up and down adjustability on the wheel for optimal wrist angle. Meaning, in my driving position my wrist is not straight which leads to wrist strains on longer stints. Mind you, I'm an arpg gamer so my wrists might be shot anyway 😅
I noticed this issue this weekend when I drove for 4 hours or so with my 9mn moza. I'll play around a bit with the little adjustability. I can report back to you.