Cogger: "No ones playing Bayonetta, she sucks." Little Z: "I think they made Bayonetta 3 though, they announced it." Cogger: "Oh Shit" *Plays Curb Your Enthusiasm*
@@fernandomora4230 That's like saying Mario 3D World it's not a platformer, so it doesn't really count We both know we're talking about a proper "Open World" 3D game
@@ardejeherde We literally don't know if the new kirby game will be an open world like mario odyssey or linear like mario 3d world. Either way they are both 3d platformers including kirby blowout blast
@@leobardosantano8813 Who’s “we” lmao, fighting game players have understood for decades that clones only add to a game in minimal ways without detracting from them Don’t say “we” to make it seem like the majority of people actively want LESS content for the same price tag
@@theillusionist1494 ok true. But I'm different for better and worse. A video game of mascots hitting each other. I check the math, and fire emblem is not popular Enough. Doesn't help that not a single character of the series is a villain. Nope, every single FE character is a protagonist. And unlike other franchises from Nintendo themselves. They have villains that could work. Even if I never played any game, there have been requested villains in the past. Variety is the spice of life. So I wouldn't be so against the large roster if they had A. Variety in every character. And don't bring up Roy in melee because he was last second addition. And although I hate fighting him, I do see him playing different than Marth. B. Not be advertisements for an already misrepresented series. And C. Showed the series they come from right. I looked up the origins on the newer fighters and they do have some stuff from the games, a lot of it is still made up completely. Which is not understandable in when they could've changed the characters in ultimate because they had their origin games released already, if Nintendo cared about FE, than they would have avoided Fire emblem controversy with these things in mind and changing the characters to seem like a game series that is worth discovering. For example, look at hero from dragon quest, he is a fun character to both fight as him and to fight against, he was specifically designed to show off the whimsical nature of dragon quest to show those who did and Didn't know about the series to give the games a chance with just the one character. And I loved playing Dragon quest 11 because of him being fun. And if you try to argue with *Super Mario* and *Pokemon* they are 1. Infinity more popular and as such deserve more characters, 2. Only at most 3 characters share general overlap. Aka only 3 clones across all of them. And even the most on paper, similar clone of Dr. Mario is the most unique of the 3. And Pichu is guaranteed to never return, and daisy can always be decloned if the need arises. And going back to the "fun" aspect of a character, I hate fighting against literally All of the Fire Emblem characters. And only Marth is the one where playing as him is not annoying or lame. And Marth's games are no longer being released so I can't say I'll pick up the series anytime soon. So that is my mindset. Argue if you wish.
Every game announcement he gets is like "Cool, but are we going to actually get a good game like Mania or Generations or will we have to deal with 4-6 more years of video essays on why your newest game is the greatest sin of mankind?"
You’re not alone bro. I hate it when my favorite RUclipsrs shit on all the series I like: Fire Emblem, Xenoblade, and others. I feel like Poppt is the only underdog that isn’t an asshole half the time …
@@tarson84 This. With three exclamation marks. Fire Emblem is my favorite game series, and Xenoblade Chronicles is my favorite video game of all time. If they'd actually give the games or the characters a damn chance, they'd realize they're actually fun. When Robin got dropped, I was legitimately mad. ...Why am I typing this instead of studying...?
You guys are not alone. The Byleth salt is hilarious because none of them know what they are talking about. FE and xenoblade are way better series than Mario or Pokémon. Also there are countries besides Australia and USA where fire emblem is popular
@@tarson84 Cogger isn't an asshole either and Hopcat just a bit. But remember none of them played any of the game's series so they wouldn't care about the characters, they will only care about their playstyle.
@@Levin-k9t last time I explain this is cause people are complaining that there is to much FE characters no one complains about the game is just to much for one series to be in smash and other franchises don’t have many characters
@@eliasreesink5738 Very early in the Ultimate cycle, Sakurai himself mentioned how unprofitable Kirby is because the cost of animating him goes up dramatically with the roster size.
@@justice8718 Agreed, Xenoblade’s reps have very unique movesets compared to alot of the roster. That and the fact that Xenoblade has been growing in popularity recently I think two reps is perfectly fine for Smash.
Duality of Link main: On one side I want Link to be in and remain the same. He have so hype bomb, footstool, Z-drop combos etc. But on the other side, I want him to be reworked to represent BOTW's/next Zelda game Link more
Same, as a Link main too, I wish he had more weapons like BOTW, and his other down b options like hero, but I also love how he already is and that’s the reason why I main him
I agree with Piranha Plant though. Such a funny and fun addition, I love the lad and how everyone went bonkers that he’s even in, including myself. Truly the best switcheroo of the century. Although Petey would be cool too. Also nice both Greninja and Ridley I’m down.
Sora was on of my most wanted characters, I'm glad he's in but he's also definitely gone next game. In fact most of my favorites are likely out expect Bowser...
because this rando person and a fifth rate tuber said so apparently... sora is in. hell be in for every smash going forward. and there will be more KH reps like riku and xehanort sooner than later.
cut in half?!? Thats really extreme, ill be fine if they cut like 8 characters top. Any more is just a significant downgrade, and id just stay playing smash ultimate because it would have more content.
I'd be ok with it being cut down to a 64 style roster if every character is fun and faithful and nobody complains about everything being un fun to fight against.
@@dylanenriguehuntington2908 Tbh, most people would lose all interest in the series, because the whole point is that it's the biggest gaming crossover.
I feel like byleth will come back. They're a unique character, they're from the most recent FE game and its the most popular one too. People only didn't want them in was cause of how many reps the series had. Cut that down and they'll fit fine.
No, not really, Byleth isn't the most popular. I'd say it's either Chrom or Robin, considering they revived the Fire Emblem series and also have the most fun movesets.
HOT TAKE: Isabelle is more likely to be playable in the next game than the Villagers are. Is what I would say if it weren't for the fact Little Z and Director Cogger just proved I'm wrong.
@@AlejoGaming-hv6lm The reason I think Isabelle's more likely is because Nintendo puts all the focus on her in marketing material and stuff while the design of Villager used in Smash is never acknowledged anywhere else anymore.
They will remove kirby from the game. I already personally know one of the developers, Sakurai is not involved in smash 6. Sorry my friend, it's over for kirby
You ever watch something knowing it's a joke and just for fun, but at the same time try to suppress having a visceral reaction because nearly all the characters you play as get the axe.
It’s weird to think that Wii Fit is one of the best selling games of all time, but if they get replaced, they’re being replaced by Ring Fit Trainee (both would be great)
Not necessarily, although this is the most polished smash game of all, with the most characters in one game, I feel like you can still go up more. Some characters are kinda forgotten in ssbu, olimar, rosalina, corrin, Isabelle etc... and some just robbed spots from other, better characters, *cough* Byleth *cough* *cough* pyra/mythra *cough*. Also make echoes the same character just different skins. Roy and chrom could both stay because they’re pretty different even if they do look a bit the same
Every single Pokémon character has their own unique moveset (besides Pichu and Pikachu) and playstyle, Marth, Lucina, Roy and Chrom have almost identical movesets and playstyles. 0 fun to play against
I was happy when they revealed Byleth, and I'm pretty confident they'll return to smash 6. I think they have a bigger chance than any other FE character other than Marth, and maybe Robin.
@@adriahrin3284 Byleth comes from like one of the best selling and most liked Fire Emblem games ever, I doubt they will just cut byleth out, I doubt even more that roy will stay over her as much as I like him.
If its up to me, then it'd be: In: Marth (got most games and first game), Robin (represent Awakening that saves the franchise and magic) and Byleth (represents 3H and 3 other different weapons) Maybe: Ike (one of the most popular FE characters) No: Roy, Chrom, Lucina (echoes/played too similiar) and Corrin (even among FE fandom Corrin is still rather hated lol)
Man, this video is great for testing my ability to not take it seriously XD I disagree with SO MANY THINGS but i try to fight off these thoughts and enjoy the video XD
Let's be real Sora is going to be and the next smash and that's a fact you think Disney is going to miss out on increasing there bank by having there boy in the base of the next game
@@gabrielkrows488 Have you heard of this thing called "currency"? Have you heard of this thing called "I fucking hate you Disney and everything you live for"?
Byleth will make it into the next game no doubt due to being the main character of the most popular game in the series, if they don’t, then just why? Robin should too, and I like Corrin but I didn’t expect Little Z of all people to keep Corrin
The only sort of painful experience as someone who genuinely likes to play zoners is when that RUclipsrs just seem to hate the few characters you have for some reason
@@rosheafan you forget that some characters from different game franchise don’t have a lot of characters in smash but for FE is to much to Mario dudes comment is not all wrong in a way
As someone who thinks Fire Emblem deserves to have all eight of it's characters, I can say that I am more than used to seeing FE hate, especially since Corrin is my favourite (yes, he was a character I wanted back in the Smash 4 days)
@@wildberry752 the person who say that didn't know how fire emblem is popular in japon and now fire emblem growth in europe so i think the 8 character are not legitimate with awakening fates also 3 houses 3 good games who juste saved the franchise for me fire emblem easily deserve is 8 character not lucina because i hate them 7 on them i love them even if is a eco character my favorite fe character is corrin so
@@samael2259 they dont need 8 especially when the are similar no need for chrom no need for lucina they need to make roy and marth less similar Ike isn't a copy of roy and marth so it least they got that right Robin is unique he/she can stay Corrin should go everyone hates him/her Byleth is unique she/he can stay if half the FE characters were not copies of each other most would be okay with them being so many
Two FE characters are Echoes, so they’re basically free bonuses with the original character (Sakurai said this about Clones/Echo Fighters, btw) and the rest are very unique. Like, what other character in Smash can turn their body into dragon parts? But the main thing is, Fire Emblem can only really have represent itself through it’s characters, rather than other aspects in Smash. The series has one item, and only 4 stages, two of which are just original places with the Fire Emblem series slapped on. Meanwhile, the series has lots of Spirits, Assist Trophies, and of course, characters. A series like Metroid can only really be represented through the opposite ways than Fire Emblem. It has many varied locations and items, but not to many characters. Meanwhile, Pokemon has the best of both worlds. It has hundreds of characters in it’s series, just like Fire Emblem, but also can be represented well through it’s items and stages. All in all, I think it’s cool to let a smaller series like Fire Emblem have lots of characters. Why is it bad to let a more niche franchise have some time in the spotlight?
Ssbu is getting a bit stale. Smash 6 could serve as some what as a spin-off, extra modes, more variety of characters, different mechanics, constant updates that severely change the meta. Idk, smash 6 could be more like a 5.5 or something
13:55 I'm not the only one to think this? That's the smile of someone who's grandmother can't figure out how to take the picture, so you're stuck there smiling for *way* too long.
Fire Emblem characters wouldn't get such a bad rap if over half of them didn't play the same and half of them weren't avatar characters that don't have personality. There's 3 types of magic, 3 different main weapon types and all they do is go with the main character that uses a sword. Where's the axes? The lances? You could even include some villains like Lyon who uses dark magic (and is a literal demon) or include other races from FE that shapeshift into animals. Throw some spellcasters into the mix, get creative! Just...enough with 4 versions of Marth, a character that was only there to sell Fates and the most boring (and least interesting) character from 3 Houses. Robin's ok. He's different enough and has some interesting things about him. He needs a rework but he's ok as is.
Mars (Yes he is Mars), Roy, Robin, and (insert newest FE protag here) are the Fire Emblem characters that should be in each game. That's only four. Why can't we just have four. I'm a Fire Emblem fan, jsyk.
I think they should cut: -Pretty much any duplicate -ice climbers -a lot of fire emblem characters -dr mario -pichu -rob maybe And they should add: -hmm... I actually have no idea
While i wouldn't expect the next Smash Bros to lose half of the roster I think it's reasonable to assume it will start out with the same amount of characters as base Ultimate did.
That's not how it works, unless they specifically went for a license to use him for a long while. But that costs more, getting him is like how other games get amazing crossovers, they don't come back for the next game. They stay for that one. Cloud wasn't even meant to, he had to be negotiated again.
I honestly think bayo being harder to play makes her more fun, since it's more satisfying to do cool combos and spikes (down smash is always satisfying). Plus, you can't remove such an iconic memory (or nightmare) of a certain game
I'd keep Terry. Fun character, fun stage, amazing music. We can cut Chrom and Lucina. I don't think Fire Emblem has too many characters, just too many characters with the same moves.
I was one of those that were super excited when they first announced Game and Watch. I got all the Game and Watch games as they launched and loved all them so much.
@@afellowpotato "there isn't that many FE characters in smash". Are you fucking serious? And no, they are not fun to verse. Maybe Marth, Roy, Byleth, and Ike, but the others are lame and don't deserve the spot.
@@samael2259 no. Roy is hype. Ike just spams nair, but he's a "heavy" sword character, so I like him. I think Marth, Roy, Robin, Ike, and Byleth should stay, but Lucina, Corrin, and chrom gotta go.
That Fox edgeguard on Lucina was the most melee thing I've ever seen in Smash 6
i had a seizure reading that
10:18
Smash 6 is out already? Wow didn’t know that …
@Cai no they weren't
Sorry
"They've made 3 Bayonettas, but they've made 14 Final Fantasies."
That is a massive understatement, they have probably made 14 Final Fantasy 7s alone.
There are more then 14 FFs I'm literally one of the biggest fans of FF.
There's actually about 95 lmao. If we include Kingdom Hearts, the Bravely series and Mana series...oof
@@Deadflower20xx nah nah we're only talking bout the ff
@@CookieMonster0429 well there’s still at least 20
There’s literally a FF15, idk how nobody seems to know about it
Zack always dunks on the furries like we've forgotten who Scrappy Z is
@Sir Monster why are you like this
WE 🤨🤨🤨🤨
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“Kirby gameplay is boring” he says throwing out several up airs as falcon
The difference is Falcon is "hype!"
@@JosepiThe13th He takes out the star of nintendo and Kirby but keeps the character who hasn't had a game in 20 years.
@@broshi5126 Yeah the list is very biased, but are we really that surprised?
@@JosepiThe13th i mean, not that they tried to make it realistic
They were just having fun and fucking around
Falcon the most fake hype character in all of Smash, been that way for years
Lmao imagine, actually nether of these character are getting cut. They actually split the cast and sell 2 versions of Smash like Pokémon
Super Smash Bros Gold and Super Smash Bros Silver
Imagine
Hear me out, Super smash bros and Super slash bros. The latter would only have weapon fighters, and the original would have the rest.
And it promotes trading between versions to have the full roster
@@FoldedBionis LOL 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Cogger: "No ones playing Bayonetta, she sucks."
Little Z: "I think they made Bayonetta 3 though, they announced it."
Cogger: "Oh Shit"
*Plays Curb Your Enthusiasm*
As a bayo main (because she’s from my favorite game) I felt nothing but pain
This thing also applies for Kirby and the Forgotten Land (first 3D game in decades)
@@ardejeherde The last 3d kirby game was Kirby Blowout Blast on 3ds. It came out in 2017
@@fernandomora4230 That's like saying Mario 3D World it's not a platformer, so it doesn't really count
We both know we're talking about a proper "Open World" 3D game
@@ardejeherde We literally don't know if the new kirby game will be an open world like mario odyssey or linear like mario 3d world.
Either way they are both 3d platformers including kirby blowout blast
They forgot poor Kazuya and just decided to put him in the rip list lmao
Well it depends if Tekken is more popular than King Of Fighters because I doubt both Terry and Kazuya will be in the next game together.
@@AlejoGaming-hv6lm terry will get cut
Nah he wasn’t forgotten he was left in clean up duty to kill the characters not in smash 6
Omg is this thicc nicc?
Banjo and Falco got switched yay
You know it's a Smashdown video when your favorite characters are out.
Yup.
Shulk 😔
Rip Sora, we wanted him for so long but he got cut
Haven’t watched it but meta knight is PROBABLY out
I want Sora back. I haven’t watched but I’m guessing he’s out 😧
I feel it might have been more interesting if you both picked a fighter you wanted in and only the winners fighter gets in
Yeah, I think that would have been better.
But then all the choices would be arbitary instead of them actually chosing who gets in
Ooh, that's an interesting idea, too! ^^
@@rogierownage they choose Doc over Mario, I think it would be arbitrary either way
The end would be like “do you want lucina or min min”
"Chrom was the only Fire Emblem character that got Smash requests in the West"
Zack and Cogger: Get OOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUTTTT!!!
He's still a clone so he doesn't deserve to remain unless he gets a proper moveset.
@@AlejoGaming-hv6lm That’s… not how clones work though
@@theillusionist1494 don't care. Trim the fat as we say.
@@leobardosantano8813 Who’s “we” lmao, fighting game players have understood for decades that clones only add to a game in minimal ways without detracting from them
Don’t say “we” to make it seem like the majority of people actively want LESS content for the same price tag
@@theillusionist1494 ok true. But I'm different for better and worse. A video game of mascots hitting each other. I check the math, and fire emblem is not popular Enough. Doesn't help that not a single character of the series is a villain. Nope, every single FE character is a protagonist. And unlike other franchises from Nintendo themselves. They have villains that could work. Even if I never played any game, there have been requested villains in the past. Variety is the spice of life. So I wouldn't be so against the large roster if they had A. Variety in every character. And don't bring up Roy in melee because he was last second addition. And although I hate fighting him, I do see him playing different than Marth. B. Not be advertisements for an already misrepresented series. And C. Showed the series they come from right. I looked up the origins on the newer fighters and they do have some stuff from the games, a lot of it is still made up completely. Which is not understandable in when they could've changed the characters in ultimate because they had their origin games released already, if Nintendo cared about FE, than they would have avoided Fire emblem controversy with these things in mind and changing the characters to seem like a game series that is worth discovering. For example, look at hero from dragon quest, he is a fun character to both fight as him and to fight against, he was specifically designed to show off the whimsical nature of dragon quest to show those who did and Didn't know about the series to give the games a chance with just the one character. And I loved playing Dragon quest 11 because of him being fun. And if you try to argue with *Super Mario* and *Pokemon* they are 1. Infinity more popular and as such deserve more characters, 2. Only at most 3 characters share general overlap. Aka only 3 clones across all of them. And even the most on paper, similar clone of Dr. Mario is the most unique of the 3. And Pichu is guaranteed to never return, and daisy can always be decloned if the need arises. And going back to the "fun" aspect of a character, I hate fighting against literally All of the Fire Emblem characters. And only Marth is the one where playing as him is not annoying or lame. And Marth's games are no longer being released so I can't say I'll pick up the series anytime soon. So that is my mindset. Argue if you wish.
Every video, sonics fate is always uncertain
Accurate for his games, good job
Thank god
shroedinger's hedgehog
Every game announcement he gets is like "Cool, but are we going to actually get a good game like Mania or Generations or will we have to deal with 4-6 more years of video essays on why your newest game is the greatest sin of mankind?"
I think a better execution of this idea would have been whoever’s character won would go into smash 6
Agreed.
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As a Fire Emblem fan, sometimes watching these videos is just subjecting myself to pain.
You’re not alone bro. I hate it when my favorite RUclipsrs shit on all the series I like: Fire Emblem, Xenoblade, and others. I feel like Poppt is the only underdog that isn’t an asshole half the time …
@@tarson84 This. With three exclamation marks.
Fire Emblem is my favorite game series, and Xenoblade Chronicles is my favorite video game of all time. If they'd actually give the games or the characters a damn chance, they'd realize they're actually fun. When Robin got dropped, I was legitimately mad.
...Why am I typing this instead of studying...?
You guys are not alone. The Byleth salt is hilarious because none of them know what they are talking about. FE and xenoblade are way better series than Mario or Pokémon. Also there are countries besides Australia and USA where fire emblem is popular
@@tarson84 Cogger isn't an asshole either and Hopcat just a bit. But remember none of them played any of the game's series so they wouldn't care about the characters, they will only care about their playstyle.
@@Levin-k9t last time I explain this is cause people are complaining that there is to much FE characters no one complains about the game is just to much for one series to be in smash and other franchises don’t have many characters
"We don't need Mario - just make doc better."
Yes.
Fuck Doc Buff mario
play melee
Keep Mario, just make him play like a buffed doc
But if Kirby’s gone, who are the 4 year olds gonna spam down-b with?
Sakurai would never get rid of kirby
Kirby is saks favourite, he'll never go away. I think all of the 64 characters will be in for sure
bowser
just like bowser, he is the easiest charicter in this game
@@youreaverageguy3123 I guess his assumption is Sakurai won’t return to direct the next smash bros
@@eliasreesink5738 Very early in the Ultimate cycle, Sakurai himself mentioned how unprofitable Kirby is because the cost of animating him goes up dramatically with the roster size.
Xenoblade absolutely needs representation and I thrive off the salt of the people who don’t like the characters in this game lol
Don't worry they will pay for their insolence for not adding Shulk to smash 6
Xenoblade also has the coolest and most flexible reps in the smash series.
@@justice8718 Agreed, Xenoblade’s reps have very unique movesets compared to alot of the roster. That and the fact that Xenoblade has been growing in popularity recently I think two reps is perfectly fine for Smash.
I can shake on this too. Aegis is mad fun, and all they have to do is nerf Aegis (mainly Mythra) and get rid of Monado Art Hitstun Cancelling
@@hambughrr8186 Shulk's MAC n' Cheese
Duality of Link main: On one side I want Link to be in and remain the same. He have so hype bomb, footstool, Z-drop combos etc. But on the other side, I want him to be reworked to represent BOTW's/next Zelda game Link more
Same, as a Link main too, I wish he had more weapons like BOTW, and his other down b options like hero, but I also love how he already is and that’s the reason why I main him
@@doomslayer8431 But arent you fighting against hell???
I think they should just add him as a separate link. Do BOTW Link, Twilight Princess Link, and Young Link. Turn toon link into a skin for young link.
@@skullerclawerbandicoot7966 indeed I am, I got some side time for Link and myself as well
nice pfp
I agree with Piranha Plant though. Such a funny and fun addition, I love the lad and how everyone went bonkers that he’s even in, including myself. Truly the best switcheroo of the century. Although Petey would be cool too.
Also nice both Greninja and Ridley I’m down.
Yeah plant is such a fun and unique character, you gotta love her
Shoulda been Koopa Troopa
@@Ahahashir you are objectively wrong sir
@@Ahahashir both
Here’s a more accurate title: “All the characters I like should stay and anyone I don’t like needs to go.”
He hates Kirby cause of Poppt’s Blue Kirby!
Xenoblade fan coping
@@Penguno45 Fanboys coping
@@Penguno45 It aint cope if anyone from the original 12 are getting cut.
Those guys are in no matter what, even puff
@@whyareyouviewingthis Mario, Kirby and Puff getting cut was the jk champ. You'll learn to understand comedy one day. 😁👍
Sora was on of my most wanted characters, I'm glad he's in but he's also definitely gone next game. In fact most of my favorites are likely out expect Bowser...
Why's sora getting cut? He isn't bad and a fair bit of people main him
because this rando person and a fifth rate tuber said so apparently...
sora is in.
hell be in for every smash going forward.
and there will be more KH reps like riku and xehanort sooner than later.
If lots of old characters end up getting reworked and redesigned, I’d definitely be fine if we just cut the roster in two.
cut in half?!? Thats really extreme, ill be fine if they cut like 8 characters top. Any more is just a significant downgrade, and id just stay playing smash ultimate because it would have more content.
I mean, yeah, but wasn't a lot of ultimate's marketing the whole "everyone is here" thing?
I'd be ok with it being cut down to a 64 style roster if every character is fun and faithful and nobody complains about everything being un fun to fight against.
@@dylanenriguehuntington2908 wasn’t there a big discussion and controversy about banning pikachu and Kirby in
@@dylanenriguehuntington2908 Tbh, most people would lose all interest in the series, because the whole point is that it's the biggest gaming crossover.
I feel like byleth will come back. They're a unique character, they're from the most recent FE game and its the most popular one too. People only didn't want them in was cause of how many reps the series had. Cut that down and they'll fit fine.
I don't know man Marth is a pretty popular
No, not really, Byleth isn't the most popular. I'd say it's either Chrom or Robin, considering they revived the Fire Emblem series and also have the most fun movesets.
@@rosheafan that does make sense. I was more talking about sales.
There are so many because it was an ad for fire emblem that worked and kept working that’s why there’s so manybb be of them
Just because Byleth has different weapons doesn’t make them “unique”
HOT TAKE: Isabelle is more likely to be playable in the next game than the Villagers are.
Is what I would say if it weren't for the fact Little Z and Director Cogger just proved I'm wrong.
That’s cause Isabelle is new lmao
Isabelle is not the main protagonist, not even playable in her games.
No, she's not going to take Villager's spot.
@@AlejoGaming-hv6lm The reason I think Isabelle's more likely is because Nintendo puts all the focus on her in marketing material and stuff while the design of Villager used in Smash is never acknowledged anywhere else anymore.
I hate isabelle. I would be happy if that dog did not make it in.
@@Electro4890 I hate pyra and mythra. They are good in the bed tho
I can't imagine a smash game without Mario and Kirby
Iconic characters they should stay
Me neither
Kirby isn’t getting trashed. He’s a veteran character and the main character of his series
Take the video with a grain of salt, chill
Plus his sakurai’s baby
Kirby is
Kirby is Sakuri’s favourite, he would never kick Kirby out
They will remove kirby from the game. I already personally know one of the developers, Sakurai is not involved in smash 6. Sorry my friend, it's over for kirby
It’s time for us corrin mains to rise up against the daily hatred! If your one of the 2 other corrin mains out there, it’s time for revolution!
I love that this comment has literally three likes. The three corrin mains have assembled
Corrin mains assemble!
Im here boys start the rise up corrin mains revolution
@@kaik625 lol! The army is assembling! Tell your friends boys. Revolution is here!
We shall rise and start a rebellion
While Mega Man isn't fun for people, he's definitely staying in, he's a gaming icon
Same with Kirby
No. Ryu is the most iconic Gaming Character of CAPCOM.
@@spongefan6170 It's arguable, now, yes, in the 80's, 90's, and early 2000's no
@@spongefan6170 no Goku is nevermind thats Namco
@@wildberry752 No. Pac Man is from Bandai Namco.
You ever watch something knowing it's a joke and just for fun, but at the same time try to suppress having a visceral reaction because nearly all the characters you play as get the axe.
Well, at least 3 of the 4 Square Enix characters are coming back lol
It’s weird to think that Wii Fit is one of the best selling games of all time, but if they get replaced, they’re being replaced by Ring Fit Trainee (both would be great)
Imagine both of them in
Me: *LAUGHING AT EVERYONES MAIN BEING OUT
ME: sad when Little Z picks my main to be out 😔😔😔
Who's your main?
my main is plant and im super surprised they let him in
I took out corrin so im not verry happy
Been watching Little Z insult my character the moment they're on the screen for years. Fabulous content.
As an FE fan, I feel this.
Me to im a fire emblem fan and a corrin player he rost so much time corrin in his video
@@samael2259 Same. It's rough being a Corrin main /Little Z fan
Wouldn’t be surprised if this is the last smash game. There is literally nowhere to go but down.
I don’t think Nintendo will give up This cash cow
Hear me out. Good online.
Probably a remake of this game on the next console with maybe quality of life gameplay
Yeah, my guess is they’ll just make a deluxe version for the next system
Not necessarily, although this is the most polished smash game of all, with the most characters in one game, I feel like you can still go up more. Some characters are kinda forgotten in ssbu, olimar, rosalina, corrin, Isabelle etc... and some just robbed spots from other, better characters, *cough* Byleth *cough* *cough* pyra/mythra *cough*. Also make echoes the same character just different skins. Roy and chrom could both stay because they’re pretty different even if they do look a bit the same
"Too many fire emblem characters, and mario characters!" >Proceeds to put in 5 Pokemon fighters
Every single Pokémon character has their own unique moveset (besides Pichu and Pikachu) and playstyle, Marth, Lucina, Roy and Chrom have almost identical movesets and playstyles. 0 fun to play against
@@ThiccBoiDaniel Roy????? Roy is completely different from Marth, Lucina, and Chrom.
I was happy when they revealed Byleth, and I'm pretty confident they'll return to smash 6. I think they have a bigger chance than any other FE character other than Marth, and maybe Robin.
the only characters that i think that will return from fire emblem are marth robin and maybe roy, byleth was putted in just because of marketing
@@adriahrin3284 Roy's also for marketing
Byleth's game been out for a while and manages to be FE's best selling game
@@adriahrin3284 Byleth comes from like one of the best selling and most liked Fire Emblem games ever, I doubt they will just cut byleth out, I doubt even more that roy will stay over her as much as I like him.
If its up to me, then it'd be:
In: Marth (got most games and first game), Robin (represent Awakening that saves the franchise and magic) and Byleth (represents 3H and 3 other different weapons)
Maybe: Ike (one of the most popular FE characters)
No: Roy, Chrom, Lucina (echoes/played too similiar) and Corrin (even among FE fandom Corrin is still rather hated lol)
@@glizycor4748 Agreed.
For real tho, if there’s a next Smash game, I think that every single character from 64 is gonna make the cut.
They’re just too iconic.
Man, this video is great for testing my ability to not take it seriously XD
I disagree with SO MANY THINGS but i try to fight off these thoughts and enjoy the video XD
It's like watching something and knowing it's just for fun, but at the same time trying not to have a visceral reaction to some of the choices.
@@facepwnagewtf Exactly
Me before watching the video: they're obviously going to cut my main pirhana plant
Me during the video: I was not expecting that, but that's ok
As a Simon main my feeling are hurt
12:02 NESS gets IN!
12:06 But...
12:23 A PLANT gets in before Simon! (Sorry) (my dad's secondary is piranha plant)
@@afellowpotato lol all good mate. I know my main isn't popular.
Literally every heavy made it to smash 6, so I can't complain. Easy way to make sure it's the hypest game yet
heavies are just way too much fun to play, hope they're better in the next game
Heavies in my opinion are boring, Inkling and G&W are the best! Yay! (I main them)
Heavies are called hype when they really aren't
@@poke4074 You're kidding right?
@@AlejoGaming-hv6lm no, I'm serious
To answer the question: Apparently not. Lucina's gone AND Shulk's gone, so I'm kinda fucked in terms of actually enjoying the damn game.
yeah pretty much all of my characters are out
As a Sora fan I know that he won't be in the next game, but I'm still happy he gets in once
The good news is Ultimate will have a legacy scene like Melee's. Smash 6, whenever it materializes, is unlikely to replace Ult.
Bruh I bet he will be. The MOST REQUESTED CHARACTER will probably last a few games
Let's be real Sora is going to be and the next smash and that's a fact you think Disney is going to miss out on increasing there bank by having there boy in the base of the next game
@@gabrielkrows488 Have you heard of this thing called "currency"? Have you heard of this thing called "I fucking hate you Disney and everything you live for"?
Of all the FE characters I think Byleth should have make the cut.
Byleth will make it into the next game no doubt due to being the main character of the most popular game in the series, if they don’t, then just why? Robin should too, and I like Corrin but I didn’t expect Little Z of all people to keep Corrin
Getting close to 1 mil! Keep up the great content man!
Yo are you a time traveler? This video was posted 7 hours ago but your comment is from 2 days ago 👀
@@williambarber9187 i get to watch little z's vids early cause I'm a channel member. it's like $1 a month to support the channel.
The only sort of painful experience as someone who genuinely likes to play zoners is when that RUclipsrs just seem to hate the few characters you have for some reason
same story with me maining most of the Fire Emblem characters
@@toadboy4 I don't understand how anyone can hate Byleth 😭
@@ofanichan me neither
Despite who people think should be cut in the next Smash game, we can all agree that the original 12 fighters from the N64 version should stay in
In heavys voice yes
Man us Fire Emblem fans really do be used to this.
Still hurts though 😔
i hope sonic comes back so that he gets a moveset overhaul and MAKE HIM HYPE
Same, Unleashed was the 1st game Ive ever played
I was hoping all of characters would get a move set overhaul too
Yeah, between Unleashed, Sonic the Fighters, Colors, his various shields, his whirlwind from Sonic Heroes, he has so many options to choose from!
Fans: Redo Sonic's moveset, please!
Sakurai: another spin dash? Alright.
Your darn puns are breaking the internet!
At 18:40 (Olimar match) I got a StateFarm ad, & Jake said "business is BLOOMING"
Im just glad Steve has his spot in Smash 6!
Me too I am very happy! Hopefully this is canon
Im just sad Shulk doesn't have his spot in Smash 6!
@@rosheafan most likely he will, bigger chance for him than for steve because shulk is a nintendo character
@@justmiyalmao I'd say it's about GUARANTEED if Smash 6 ever happens, considering XC3 being a thing now.
"No one even wanted Byleth in Smash Ultimate." Haha... yeah... not me, surely...
*sweats nervously*
@@mariodude7424 i wanted another FE character, because i wanted Byleth
@@mariodude7424 PS: Pyra/Mythra was from Xenoblade Chronicles, like Shulk.
@@mariodude7424 Sephiroth, in the same game of one of the already-in character unlike everyone else...
@@AlejoGaming-hv6lm oh I forgot they exist
@@rosheafan you forget that some characters from different game franchise don’t have a lot of characters in smash but for FE is to much to Mario dudes comment is not all wrong in a way
Kirby should still be in, he is one of the 64 Fighters!
At least you chose Steve to stay in, he is really fun to play!
Kirby will be removed in smash 6
True and true Steve and Kirby are iconic so he has to stay
Plus Steve is my main, but my GSP with him is the lowest out of all of my characters, with 2M GSP!
Same for Mario
@@JUMPYCOOL same im a joker main and joker is my lowest with 2mill GSP
Fun fact: Bowser was at one point in time, the most requested character to join Smash.
As someone who thinks Fire Emblem deserves to have all eight of it's characters, I can say that I am more than used to seeing FE hate, especially since Corrin is my favourite (yes, he was a character I wanted back in the Smash 4 days)
Fire emblem doesn't deserve all 8 Sonic Donkey Kong and Kirby deserve more
@@wildberry752 the person who say that didn't know how fire emblem is popular in japon and now fire emblem growth in europe so i think the 8 character are not legitimate with awakening fates also 3 houses 3 good games who juste saved the franchise for me fire emblem easily deserve is 8 character not lucina because i hate them 7 on them i love them even if is a eco character my favorite fe character is corrin so
@@samael2259 they dont need 8 especially when the are similar no need for chrom no need for lucina they need to make roy and marth less similar Ike isn't a copy of roy and marth so it least they got that right Robin is unique he/she can stay Corrin should go everyone hates him/her Byleth is unique she/he can stay if half the FE characters were not copies of each other most would be okay with them being so many
@@wildberry752 corrin are not loved thats a fact but its pretty unique so we need them
Two FE characters are Echoes, so they’re basically free bonuses with the original character (Sakurai said this about Clones/Echo Fighters, btw) and the rest are very unique. Like, what other character in Smash can turn their body into dragon parts?
But the main thing is, Fire Emblem can only really have represent itself through it’s characters, rather than other aspects in Smash. The series has one item, and only 4 stages, two of which are just original places with the Fire Emblem series slapped on. Meanwhile, the series has lots of Spirits, Assist Trophies, and of course, characters.
A series like Metroid can only really be represented through the opposite ways than Fire Emblem. It has many varied locations and items, but not to many characters. Meanwhile, Pokemon has the best of both worlds. It has hundreds of characters in it’s series, just like Fire Emblem, but also can be represented well through it’s items and stages.
All in all, I think it’s cool to let a smaller series like Fire Emblem have lots of characters. Why is it bad to let a more niche franchise have some time in the spotlight?
Kazuya, Snake, Sora: *Kicked out*
Playstation all Star battle Royale 2: "allow us to introduce ourself"
I feel like the only Min Min main that actually mains her because I love ARMS LMAO
You’re not the only one lol. I wanted twintelle cause she was my main in arms but min min was my secondary
How about this. Bowser Jr.'s koopa car gets in, but it is in auto pilot and there are no koopalings or bowser Jr.
What would be the point of making another one? He’s already given us the most amount of content in this game.
I’d rather them port Ultimate to try next console personally
True
Ssbu is getting a bit stale. Smash 6 could serve as some what as a spin-off, extra modes, more variety of characters, different mechanics, constant updates that severely change the meta. Idk, smash 6 could be more like a 5.5 or something
money
@@nonghole4870 That would be kool. I honestly want a 3d Smash game
We all now Kirby's in it's Sakura's son
Next Smash will for certain get the Pokémon Sword and Shield treatment when it comes to character roster.
as long as my boi cloud is in and he will be
13:55
I'm not the only one to think this?
That's the smile of someone who's grandmother can't figure out how to take the picture, so you're stuck there smiling for *way* too long.
Fire Emblem characters wouldn't get such a bad rap if over half of them didn't play the same and half of them weren't avatar characters that don't have personality.
There's 3 types of magic, 3 different main weapon types and all they do is go with the main character that uses a sword.
Where's the axes? The lances? You could even include some villains like Lyon who uses dark magic (and is a literal demon) or include other races from FE that shapeshift into animals. Throw some spellcasters into the mix, get creative! Just...enough with 4 versions of Marth, a character that was only there to sell Fates and the most boring (and least interesting) character from 3 Houses.
Robin's ok. He's different enough and has some interesting things about him. He needs a rework but he's ok as is.
We've had about enough talking about that, right?
Mars (Yes he is Mars), Roy, Robin, and (insert newest FE protag here) are the Fire Emblem characters that should be in each game. That's only four. Why can't we just have four. I'm a Fire Emblem fan, jsyk.
Robin has a lot of personailty for an avatar character though
I think they should cut:
-Pretty much any duplicate
-ice climbers
-a lot of fire emblem characters
-dr mario
-pichu
-rob maybe
And they should add:
-hmm... I actually have no idea
Ice climbers stay in
Rob saved nintendo
Doc you can’t kick the plumber
Pichu he is fricking adorable and should never have been cut
While i wouldn't expect the next Smash Bros to lose half of the roster I think it's reasonable to assume it will start out with the same amount of characters as base Ultimate did.
No way. Sakurai said there's no way that's happening again. That's 75 fighters.
Almost 90 if you add in dlc
I'd be surprised if there's 50 fighters in the next one
Literally all my mains got cut, lmao. Fun video though!
As a fire emblem and xenoblade fan I'm not at all surprised
Me either
Yeah 😔
Same. 😔
2:56
Zack: Sakurai made Kid Icarus too.
Zack knowledge about Kid Icarus series: Kid Icarus uprising and that's it!
Lol just to let you know, Kirby will always be in smash. He’s a gaming icon and a beginner friendly character.😆
Lol just to let you know, this video isn’t serious
@@ONLY_RR7 lol just let you know, they just create a theory what char will be in smash 6. Ofc they dont know, but thats why its a theory
@@Hundderx a *GAME THEORY*
Sorry, I have to do it
@@saiko7587 i dont get it.
@@Hundderx sad
if you think kirby isn't coming back you're dead wrong. with a 3d remake inbound, he'll be the new BOTW link (plus he IS sakurai's baby)
14:37 And that's how Luigi earned his spot in Smash 6
“I’ll get him on the sext-I mean the next one”
Little z 2021
Ike being out is a sad but any game that doesn’t have banjo&kazooie isn’t in is a great game to me
Characters added in
64: Guaranteed
Melee: very likely
Brawl: depends
4 and ultimate: at least 10 will be out
No way Sora’s out. It took so much to get him in this game I don’t think they would waste it.
Yeah would be pretty dumb
That's not how it works, unless they specifically went for a license to use him for a long while. But that costs more, getting him is like how other games get amazing crossovers, they don't come back for the next game. They stay for that one. Cloud wasn't even meant to, he had to be negotiated again.
It isn't just Nintendo's decision
Fun fact: if you stab a bowl of cereal you will be a cereal killer
Me *Sees Kirby in the out category*
"What blasphemy am I hearing from you?!"
i already knew this was gonna be scuffed from the video preview alone
and thumbnail
put scout from tf2 in smash as a mii gunner and have the theme as the song added
"They've only made three Bayonettas, but there's fourteen Final Fantasies."
The thirteen main series Fire Emblems:
I honestly think bayo being harder to play makes her more fun, since it's more satisfying to do cool combos and spikes (down smash is always satisfying). Plus, you can't remove such an iconic memory (or nightmare) of a certain game
Fox and Falco: no echos
Zelda and Sheik: echos
OK, mate XD
With Little Z's choice to not include ZSS either, I think he's trying to get back to Brawl.
2:28 I agree with Little Z about the move set that he has it could use a update
I'd love to see representation from 5, 9, 10, and 11.
kills me every time when zach insults daisy, i guess i was right for knowing she's not making it in next time lol
I'd keep Terry. Fun character, fun stage, amazing music.
We can cut Chrom and Lucina. I don't think Fire Emblem has too many characters, just too many characters with the same moves.
We should've gotten Zero from Mega Man X instead of Chrom from Fire Emblem Awakening....
Chrom and Lucina can go for sure, but no idea why they picked Robin to go.
Lucina has a reason to copy moves because that’s What she does copy marth
@@hambughrr8186 chrom was a fanfavorite but people were upset that he got in
@@hambughrr8186 I always felt like mega man from battle network would have been cool.
When your favorite Link is Toon Link…
Challenge: play as banjo and kazooie and every time you lose a STOCK ur girlfriend has to smash a egg on ur face
Alternative title: Thanos decides which characters will be in S6
I hope Corrin comes back, one of my best Characters (Mains).
i doubt it, it comes from one of the more hated fire emblem games (at least by the fire emblem community)
What are you doing with your life...?
Eww no
@@adriahrin3284 I think Sakurai likes Fire Emblem more than even the most intense Fire Emblem fans (me) do.
Him/her, Lucina and Roy will guaranteed take the axe in the next game by Byleth.
I was one of those that were super excited when they first announced Game and Watch. I got all the Game and Watch games as they launched and loved all them so much.
It’s hard being a fire emblem fan and watching this channel. But I understand why the characters are so hated.
There isn't actually many Fire Emblem Characters in Smash.
The Fire Emblem characters are fun to play and verse
@@afellowpotato "there isn't that many FE characters in smash". Are you fucking serious? And no, they are not fun to verse. Maybe Marth, Roy, Byleth, and Ike, but the others are lame and don't deserve the spot.
@@dothog1401 roy and ike are the lamest fe character thats a fact
@@samael2259 no. Roy is hype. Ike just spams nair, but he's a "heavy" sword character, so I like him. I think Marth, Roy, Robin, Ike, and Byleth should stay, but Lucina, Corrin, and chrom gotta go.
Oh Zack.. they made much more than 14 final fantasies.
Kirby will always be in the game I can't see kirby not being in for many reasons
In both of Peter and zack’s videos today cogger’s ZSS has been hella clean
i think all dlc characters should be in the next game that would be really nice
That would be if Nintendo can get rights to those characters again, and Sora would be expensive
If little z was a dictator i would be terrified
Nothing is scarier than making an idiot a leader.
Terry is much more likely to be in the next Smash Bros than Joker.
“They’ve made 14 final Fantasy’s” 😂 with ff16 coming out soon
I waited 14 years for Sora, and he gets cut in the next game?!?
try being a belmont fan
that disrespect to rob tho
he singlehandedly saved the video game industry outside of japan
he is the reason the crash ended
All 3 of my Mains are in. I am satisfied!
Who are your mains?
@@ethanschaffer5886 Plant, K Rool and Incineroar
@@paulowo4633 good mains mine are the random button excluding a few characters just like Little Z
My main are corrin
Two cogger videos in one day!!!! It’s a miracle