Hi, good discussion on a subject whith many variables, that alot of people maybe have never thought about , or experienced. When the chips are down and you need fire real quick a naked flame is what you need, along whith long lasting tinder, preferably waterproof to give you a good start when everything's damp. I'm not saying that flint and steel, fire rope, etc arn't good methods to practice whith, and the untold satisfaction you get from creating fire that way is priceless. But I'll always carry the see through cheapo butane lighters, storm matches, and homemade wax fire starters that ignite whith a ferro rod, and a section of bycycle inner tube which burns even when wet, and can be cut into ranger bands, whith multiple uses. Just two cents worth from an old man that's spent a bit of dirt time. Your site is a treasure trove of good videos, much appreciated, stay safe, best wishe's to you and your's, Stuart UK.
Sincerely enjoyed the video! As you mentioned, it’s a broad, complex, and very interesting topic. Your decision to have the go bag discussion take place over several videos is appreciated as you have much knowledge to share covering various topics. This knowledge would have been overlooked if it was crammed into one video. The emphasis on skill development and having the skill set match the equipment is a gold nugget of wisdom. It’s time for me to upgrade my method of carrying matches from a zip lock baggie to a Marble's type container. A rope lighter will also now go in several bags/kits. Thank you for taking on the project, well done!
Another great video. You covered the subject very thoroughly. Personally, I take fire-craft seriously, I always have at least a Bic lighter, or two, or three. One in my pocket, one in my jacket if wearing, one or more in my day pack. My jacket always has tender, fatwood shoved in one of the pockets, my pack will have an assortment of tender. That being said, when we go out camping, it is our practice among friends to light our campfire as quickly as possible, using only one light from our lighters. No cutting tools used, just what we gather. If the ground is drenched, then of course we can drag out our stored tinder. A great skill is practice drenching your lighter in water and drying it out to use. There's a good video out there by Corporals Corner on this. One should understand that when the hands are numbingly cold, a lighter can be a problem to use. Another favorite of mine is the fire piston, although I would not call it gobag worthy. Lighter, matches, ferro-rod, and the skills to use them, is my choice. I have gone through the pain staking process of practicing the primitive methods, and it sure makes me appreciate the simple lighter. Thanks for sharing.
Those are excellent points, thank you for sharing them. I can appreciate surrounding yourself with like minded people and challenging each other, it makes for a fun and more enjoyable experience!
👍 The first 5-10 minutes of this video reminded me of why I hated lectures in college. BUT, as in college, the remainder of your presentation tied it all together in an effective way. You made some excellent points on what not to carry as well as what you suggest be carried and related your recommendations to the most important tool - skill. I thoroughly enjoyed this video and look forward to the others in this series.
@@honorableoutfitters A lesson I learned in college is that we must all suffer through the first 5-10 minutes of every effective lecture. Fortunately you, like most good teachers, have learned how not to turn 5-10 minutes into 50-60 minutes. I look forward to future additions in this series, produce them as you think best.
This is an interesting take i often wondered about what the old schools would take in a go bag. Awesome my friend I look forwards to the next part. Youre very underrated sir.
Thank you for your videos and your time that you put into them. I am very grateful that I came across this channel roughly about a month and or so ago. I have gone back and watch some of the older videos. Keep up the good work I know schedules get rough you do what you Gotta do to provide for your family. So very grateful For the historic aspects that you share be atthe Boy Scouts of America the camp craft writers. One thing I have learned it from another channel for tender is to get the round make up cotton pads. You can pick these up at a dollar store. Melt gulf wax all that away from heat source add barbecue lighter fluid. Be careful how much you add but make sure there is enough. You may want to try one or two of them as you do this in your batch. When you go to use it after it is hard on the wax break it open and fluff out the cotton fibers to help catch your spark from your fire steel or feral rod. Works well in a condition because it is waterproof because of the wax and the lighter fluid does not release because it is sealed in the wax.
I enjoyed your videos where you address strategies as how to solve problems. Wish we had a scout leader like yourself. Our scout leader back in the early 60's were totally clueless in the small town I grew up in. One trip to the Catskill Mountains on a cold December day was very scary in 1963. At sunset when we were eating it had dropped to 5F and dropped to -15 to -20F. I lasted until 6am and half the scouts were already in the cars warming up, some since 11pm. The "leaders" weren't prepared and neither were most of the scouts. Anyway, I digress. About 15 years ago I took part in a woods walk. One of the first tasters was to light a fire with flint and steel. I cheated and used a little fine steel wool in the bundle along with cotton balls/petroleum and other choice items. I came in first place having only practiced a little before the event, but scored poorly on shooting events. I've still working on using the ferro rod under various conditions and scenarios.
Thank you for the kindness, there are good and bad with everything. It sucks your experience was not very beneficial. Perhaps you learned what not to do so you could be the example and push for more quality in outdoor education wherever or whatever life took you to?
@@honorableoutfitters I don't really carry tinder. But I started to put fat wood stick and 100%cotton rounds soaked in wax with a fero rod . In my pack. Back in the day and still carry. A candle 🕯️ matches and a lighter. I really like to use dead tall grass with twigs and make a bundle. About 18inchs long and 2hand fulls thick.. then I put to the side and collect my firewood . Light my bundle hold it at an angle to get it going good .And throw the wood on. Some times you can't get a fire going. So having your shelter and zero degrees sleeping bag with wool blanket and a cotton sheet will get you threw the nights hot or cold . You can not beat something like a boy scout camp fire stove the ones that burn the tabs. And it folds. You can't beat a U . S . Military canteen. Cup and stove with mess kit. Or a vintage boy scout mess kit. I do love a Zippo lighter with fuel. You can burn it a long time. And refill it. Instead of filling the zippo. Just put the zippo fluid on the wick it self. That will save fluid. A piece of railroad ties will burn a long time. But not good to breathe in . Ya I have had fire's not burn because of lack of wind or air . Then your just sitting there fanning the fire . And it sucks 😞 . Pine cones are good. Pine sap is a nother thing I carry . And it good for so many things. We can not stress enough how important it is for fire prep . And fire safety. So dig that hole put rocks around it. Clear 6feet around your fire pit. Witch I can say I don't always do. when I should . I'm liking the fero rod. That's what I would go with. God bless. From Glenn CATT in Massachusetts.
Great common sense thinking. I always carry a Zippo in the watch pocket of my jeans. I quit using the old lighter fluid style and went to the ones with butane. They don't dry out and you don't have the possible leak problems that the Bic can have. If it is in my pocket then it is warm enough even below zero. I do have two styles, the regular flame and the torch, which is the one I use. Lighting a wood stove almost daily for 6 or more months of the year improves your skill. I have always carried a Marbles match safe with strike anywhere, but their quality is not the same, so I bought a couple of containers of stormproof or as they were called when I was young, lifeboat matches. I have been cold enough that I have had frostbite and I don't mess around when it comes to fire. Plenty of birch bark here, tow from rope not to mention toilet paper. Even old camp cooke likely carried sulpfer matches in a tight container on the trail.
Frostbite is some scary stuff brother, sorry that happened to you. It is one of my greatest fears cold weather camping. Based on your review I put a butane zippo on my wishlist. Thank you!
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Not a bad one when you don't have anything else and the sun is out! I forgot to include it, thanks for the mention!
Hi, good discussion on a subject whith many variables, that alot of people maybe have never thought about , or experienced. When the chips are down and you need fire real quick a naked flame is what you need, along whith long lasting tinder, preferably waterproof to give you a good start when everything's damp. I'm not saying that flint and steel, fire rope, etc arn't good methods to practice whith, and the untold satisfaction you get from creating fire that way is priceless. But I'll always carry the see through cheapo butane lighters, storm matches, and homemade wax fire starters that ignite whith a ferro rod, and a section of bycycle inner tube which burns even when wet, and can be cut into ranger bands, whith multiple uses. Just two cents worth from an old man that's spent a bit of dirt time. Your site is a treasure trove of good videos, much appreciated, stay safe, best wishe's to you and your's, Stuart UK.
Your thoughts are bang on, Mr. Dyer. Well said, sir.
Thank you brother, I appreciate it
Sincerely enjoyed the video! As you mentioned, it’s a broad, complex, and very interesting topic. Your decision to have the go bag discussion take place over several videos is appreciated as you have much knowledge to share covering various topics. This knowledge would have been overlooked if it was crammed into one video. The emphasis on skill development and having the skill set match the equipment is a gold nugget of wisdom. It’s time for me to upgrade my method of carrying matches from a zip lock baggie to a Marble's type container. A rope lighter will also now go in several bags/kits. Thank you for taking on the project, well done!
The next one will be this upcoming Sunday, thank you for the input!
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My pleasure, thanks for stopping by!
Another great video. You covered the subject very thoroughly. Personally, I take fire-craft seriously, I always have at least a Bic lighter, or two, or three. One in my pocket, one in my jacket if wearing, one or more in my day pack. My jacket always has tender, fatwood shoved in one of the pockets, my pack will have an assortment of tender. That being said, when we go out camping, it is our practice among friends to light our campfire as quickly as possible, using only one light from our lighters. No cutting tools used, just what we gather. If the ground is drenched, then of course we can drag out our stored tinder. A great skill is practice drenching your lighter in water and drying it out to use. There's a good video out there by Corporals Corner on this. One should understand that when the hands are numbingly cold, a lighter can be a problem to use. Another favorite of mine is the fire piston, although I would not call it gobag worthy. Lighter, matches, ferro-rod, and the skills to use them, is my choice. I have gone through the pain staking process of practicing the primitive methods, and it sure makes me appreciate the simple lighter. Thanks for sharing.
Those are excellent points, thank you for sharing them. I can appreciate surrounding yourself with like minded people and challenging each other, it makes for a fun and more enjoyable experience!
Cotton and wood ash 🔥 fire roll
Also works with some tree barks, dry tender materialslike grass, last ditch effort even with a piece of cotton cloth.
Thank you, I'll give it a shot!
👍 The first 5-10 minutes of this video reminded me of why I hated lectures in college. BUT, as in college, the remainder of your presentation tied it all together in an effective way. You made some excellent points on what not to carry as well as what you suggest be carried and related your recommendations to the most important tool - skill. I thoroughly enjoyed this video and look forward to the others in this series.
Lol, thank you and sorry about the 5-10 minutes. I'll try to avoid it in the next ones.
@@honorableoutfitters A lesson I learned in college is that we must all suffer through the first 5-10 minutes of every effective lecture. Fortunately you, like most good teachers, have learned how not to turn 5-10 minutes into 50-60 minutes. I look forward to future additions in this series, produce them as you think best.
This is an interesting take i often wondered about what the old schools would take in a go bag. Awesome my friend I look forwards to the next part. Youre very underrated sir.
Thank you. I hope you continue to get some value out of them!
Thank you for your videos and your time that you put into them. I am very grateful that I came across this channel roughly about a month and or so ago. I have gone back and watch some of the older videos. Keep up the good work I know schedules get rough you do what you Gotta do to provide for your family. So very grateful For the historic aspects that you share be atthe Boy Scouts of America the camp craft writers. One thing I have learned it from another channel for tender is to get the round make up cotton pads. You can pick these up at a dollar store. Melt gulf wax all that away from heat source add barbecue lighter fluid. Be careful how much you add but make sure there is enough. You may want to try one or two of them as you do this in your batch. When you go to use it after it is hard on the wax break it open and fluff out the cotton fibers to help catch your spark from your fire steel or feral rod. Works well in a condition because it is waterproof because of the wax and the lighter fluid does not release because it is sealed in the wax.
Thank you for the kindness, support, and the ideas!
I enjoyed your videos where you address strategies as how to solve problems. Wish we had a scout leader like yourself. Our scout leader back in the early 60's were totally clueless in the small town I grew up in. One trip to the Catskill Mountains on a cold December day was very scary in 1963. At sunset when we were eating it had dropped to 5F and dropped to -15 to -20F. I lasted until 6am and half the scouts were already in the cars warming up, some since 11pm. The "leaders" weren't prepared and neither were most of the scouts. Anyway, I digress. About 15 years ago I took part in a woods walk. One of the first tasters was to light a fire with flint and steel. I cheated and used a little fine steel wool in the bundle along with cotton balls/petroleum and other choice items. I came in first place having only practiced a little before the event, but scored poorly on shooting events. I've still working on using the ferro rod under various conditions and scenarios.
Thank you for the kindness, there are good and bad with everything. It sucks your experience was not very beneficial. Perhaps you learned what not to do so you could be the example and push for more quality in outdoor education wherever or whatever life took you to?
@@honorableoutfitters I learned a few things and eventually sorted things out. You are a very kind and wise man. Thanks
Great video. God bless. From Glenn CATT in Massachusetts.
What's your preferred tinder you carry? You have a lot of experience in this area from what I recall.
@@honorableoutfitters I don't really carry tinder. But I started to put fat wood stick and 100%cotton rounds soaked in wax with a fero rod . In my pack. Back in the day and still carry. A candle 🕯️ matches and a lighter. I really like to use dead tall grass with twigs and make a bundle. About 18inchs long and 2hand fulls thick.. then I put to the side and collect my firewood . Light my bundle hold it at an angle to get it going good .And throw the wood on. Some times you can't get a fire going. So having your shelter and zero degrees sleeping bag with wool blanket and a cotton sheet will get you threw the nights hot or cold . You can not beat something like a boy scout camp fire stove the ones that burn the tabs. And it folds. You can't beat a U . S . Military canteen. Cup and stove with mess kit. Or a vintage boy scout mess kit. I do love a Zippo lighter with fuel. You can burn it a long time. And refill it. Instead of filling the zippo. Just put the zippo fluid on the wick it self. That will save fluid. A piece of railroad ties will burn a long time. But not good to breathe in . Ya I have had fire's not burn because of lack of wind or air . Then your just sitting there fanning the fire . And it sucks 😞 . Pine cones are good. Pine sap is a nother thing I carry . And it good for so many things. We can not stress enough how important it is for fire prep . And fire safety. So dig that hole put rocks around it. Clear 6feet around your fire pit. Witch I can say I don't always do. when I should . I'm liking the fero rod. That's what I would go with. God bless. From Glenn CATT in Massachusetts.
Great common sense thinking. I always carry a Zippo in the watch pocket of my jeans. I quit using the old lighter fluid style and went to the ones with butane. They don't dry out and you don't have the possible leak problems that the Bic can have. If it is in my pocket then it is warm enough even below zero. I do have two styles, the regular flame and the torch, which is the one I use. Lighting a wood stove almost daily for 6 or more months of the year improves your skill. I have always carried a Marbles match safe with strike anywhere, but their quality is not the same, so I bought a couple of containers of stormproof or as they were called when I was young, lifeboat matches. I have been cold enough that I have had frostbite and I don't mess around when it comes to fire. Plenty of birch bark here, tow from rope not to mention toilet paper. Even old camp cooke likely carried sulpfer matches in a tight container on the trail.
Frostbite is some scary stuff brother, sorry that happened to you. It is one of my greatest fears cold weather camping. Based on your review I put a butane zippo on my wishlist. Thank you!
An old trapper once said, "As long as you have a campfire, you're never alone."
Charcloth, old school. What you carry in your pockets.
And remember "next fire mentality" so your resources are utilized as well as they can be. Cheers my friend!
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Thank you, just watched and now have a cool project to do with my Scouts!
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