If you need more insight on the kill phase, I recommend watching this video by Rob. It gives more details about the spacing and placement of ROF. ruclips.net/video/zEhyWGQy8pk/видео.html You can also check out a full run I did at level 41 here :) ruclips.net/video/WVhly--_-Bw/видео.html
I was not able to recreate the jump around 9:00 as a gnome male. Could be skill issue, but I had no issues with the other jumps in this guide. I did have some luck making it onto the opposite wall on the right hand side of the room though.
Lovely pull, i had to do a different route since the jump to first left side wall is not doable on gnome but it's big xp/h 40-52. Small issue is the voidwalker taunt remains sketch all the way up to 48. bad pathing rng can really mess you up. the tagging is easy enough, just RoF on left and right sides both and you'll never have issues. Also can max rank every cast if you use dark pact.
Gonna keep my speculation updated in the description. For sod, I think we get so much fire power and stats from bfd/gnomer gear that we can just blast as full destro. Kills times should be a LOT shorter. First thing i would try is meta/lof/incin/saf/dk. If we need more for mana recovery, we might have to swap lof for mc, but we will have to be creative with movement to make sure we don't get outranged as the mobs are pathing.
in my experience u dont need to do the strafe thing when jumping over, i honestly couldnt tell a difference when i tried The evade spot when u fall down works on female gnome and female dwarf aswell
I have hard problems with the Rain of Fire hit /xp leash. I didnt hit the mobs everytime so after my first run. After 1h of Killing i got only 5xp per mob. WTF
@@ruggeropastorin285 hellfire yourself, you lose 0 durability and can run back. Or hearth to gad, or if you're higher level, ride your mount right back out.
You have a few options I know of; 1. hearth to gadgetzan. 2. log out for 5 minutes to teleport to gadgetzan gy. 3. get in a group w/ someone or an alt to instantly reset the instance for you when you log out/swap characters. 4. run to the boss Antu'sul's cave, and perform a jumping alt+f4 log out skip off the cage, porting you to the entrance of zf.
hey i just started learning the run, i fell near the grave mommies, next to the boss, in an awkward corner it seemed i couldn't go out. Does it remind to you something or i was just bad to exit the spot ?
@@KullSSBM sorry another question, does curse of elements which lasts 5 mins prevent the 40 secs xp loss ? It doesn't deal damage but is it considered hostile action ? Might help to deal even more with rain of fire right
@@KullSSBM oh so the xp loss will proc on the mob despite the curse being active on it ? I though till the curse is active it is considered as hostile action, so you have 5 minutes without worrying about it
@@erzem421 it's not a proc, it's a rule. If all you did was CoE, then you haven't done any damage, you wont get reduced exp because the mob is still at 100%. If you deal damage to them and don't do any hostile actions toward them for 40 seconds, there exp will be reduced to there current health %. The hostile action is when it is casted, not when it ends.
@@erzem421 yes it does! And I would start at 40 if you're used to solo instance farms. Otherwise I'd wait till 43 or 45. Aggro ranges become a lot more lenient as you level up. Demo takes a considerably longer time to clear, so I recommend affliction.
@@KullSSBM Thank you for documenting this farm. NGL this farm is so so so hard. I have been doing it for 18 ish hours and still fail 50% of the time at some stage.
It's entirely possible to do this without any void sacs at level 44, saving multiple shards per run. I really don't suggest doing this any earlier as the kill phase takes longer due to the orange and red mobs resisting so much damage, wasting time and potentially gutting your experience for not tagging mobs within 30s of each damage. This is possible earlier, but you'll want the level 44 and 215+ defense to not get crushing blow'd by as many mobs as well as a smaller aggro radius, pulling less mobs. Plus, having a higher defense makes you less likely to get dismounted if struck from behind albeit you should be strafe jumping to avoid that anyway. BUY 5-7 pieces with Stamina modifier!!! This is how you get there alive. You will take more hits than usual, you cannot make mistakes unlike mages with nova and blink and ice block and ice barrier and cold snap and .... You just don't get that kind of leeway as a warlock. 31 points into demonology, run with Demonic Embrace for the +15% stamina. -5% spirit sucks but it's not necessary for the kill phase (and I am fairly certain this is based on your BASE spirit, not added spirit. Naked, I have 82-1 spirit. With all my spirit gear on, I have 82+76-1. -5% spirit is FINE! ). Use your imp and make sure it has rank 4 (level 38) Blood Pact + Soul Link. I was doing these runs with ~2500 health, with soul link on a 600 health imp for about 3100 effective health pool. I did have a lot of pieces from scarlet monastery from spamming it from 29-44. I had 200 stamina total. During the kill phase, swap to "of the Owl" or "Intellect" gear. More mana means more regeneration via Fel hunter sacrifice, as well as mana from just regular old spirit regeneration. You only have to tag the mobs once every 30s to avoid the loss of experience. If you're having trouble with grouping the mobs up, rapidly jumping back and forth between the safe jump spot. Doing it quickly makes the mobs want to path down the hill towards you as if you fell down, making them cluster up into a tighter group.
Just want to clarify that mobs CANNOT fully resist AOE, only partially. Additionally, you WILL NOT lose your exp leash to a mob resisting, since you are doing a hostile action toward them. So that part of your first paragraph is not correct.
@@KullSSBM Partial resists is what I meant -- any resisted damage (even if partial) lowers your damage. I wasn't aware of the "Any hostile action" counting towards the 30s leeway of experience loss. Thanks for that though!
@@erzem421 At level 40... I really don't recommend it. Can it be done? Yes. But you're going to pull many more mobs on the run to the GY, and the kill time is going to take ~20 minutes, assuming you have enough of a mana pool to regenerate and cast Rank 2 Rain of Fire constantly. Downranking to keep tagging will work but it makes the kill take even longer. Edit: I suggest doing SM Armory/Cath spams until AT LEAST 42.... and really, continue til 43 and then level somewhere else until 44. A single GY run awards about 35k exp and if it's taking you 1 hour for 2 runs (and this is optimistic at sub level 46 for rank 3 RoF), that's 70k/exp an hour.
Thanks for sharing. If you Demonic Sacrifice your Felguard, you gain every pet bonus. You gain +15 % Shadow/Fire damage, 3% health and 2% mana every 4 sec. 😊 Glhfss
@@TC-dg5pm the irony of you making weird assumptions about my confidence based on my speaking voice when I read a script, and deleting the comment later, is very telling of your own insecurities and issues my dude.
If you need more insight on the kill phase, I recommend watching this video by Rob. It gives more details about the spacing and placement of ROF.
ruclips.net/video/zEhyWGQy8pk/видео.html
You can also check out a full run I did at level 41 here :) ruclips.net/video/WVhly--_-Bw/видео.html
Mages: "look what they need to do to mimic a fraction of our power"
M*ges are just bad at the game and get hard carried by slows
23:30 "And also, fuck images." GAT EEM
Lol I'd actually paused it a few secs before that so ty
Nice informative video! I tried it for a few lvls, its really good exp. Also the reset spot works as orc male.
I was not able to recreate the jump around 9:00 as a gnome male. Could be skill issue, but I had no issues with the other jumps in this guide. I did have some luck making it onto the opposite wall on the right hand side of the room though.
Couldn't make it as a gnome male too
Couldn't make it as a gnome female. Human female worked fine, i think gnomes are the issue lol
just tried it 30 soul shards on male gnome, did not get it tot work either. going right now ^^
savory Deviate Delight
@@victorandersen3441 Does that actually work?
Lovely pull, i had to do a different route since the jump to first left side wall is not doable on gnome but it's big xp/h 40-52. Small issue is the voidwalker taunt remains sketch all the way up to 48. bad pathing rng can really mess you up.
the tagging is easy enough, just RoF on left and right sides both and you'll never have issues. Also can max rank every cast if you use dark pact.
You're an absolute king. Thank you!
thanks for the guide and for the help on discord. the safe spot also works for female ud
I like the pulls, reset spots etc. I'm just missing any connections with SoD like runes that would work.
Gonna keep my speculation updated in the description. For sod, I think we get so much fire power and stats from bfd/gnomer gear that we can just blast as full destro. Kills times should be a LOT shorter. First thing i would try is meta/lof/incin/saf/dk. If we need more for mana recovery, we might have to swap lof for mc, but we will have to be creative with movement to make sure we don't get outranged as the mobs are pathing.
@@KullSSBMwith the lake of fire nerf might not be worth since you need the full channel to get the effect
@@tarora9563 yeah just swap it for demonic tactics
I been using master channeler haunt for survival shadow and flame and incinerate for fire dmg , dance of the wicked for mana
in my experience u dont need to do the strafe thing when jumping over, i honestly couldnt tell a difference when i tried
The evade spot when u fall down works on female gnome and female dwarf aswell
Thank you!
I have hard problems with the Rain of Fire hit /xp leash. I didnt hit the mobs everytime so after my first run. After 1h of Killing i got only 5xp per mob. WTF
Awesome guide, thank you!
Just a quick question, is there any effective way to reset the instance after a successfull gy clear?
@@ruggeropastorin285 hellfire yourself, you lose 0 durability and can run back. Or hearth to gad, or if you're higher level, ride your mount right back out.
@@KullSSBM Right! Thanks again!
feel like im braindead rest of the run is chill but getting on that first wall is like a sissyphean effort for me lol, ty for uploading
@@BattleBoots try using a free 60 on the PTR to grind it out!
@@KullSSBM aye might be an idea, ty!
Is there a logout skip/fastest way to get out of the instance without having to walk out again?
You have a few options I know of;
1. hearth to gadgetzan.
2. log out for 5 minutes to teleport to gadgetzan gy.
3. get in a group w/ someone or an alt to instantly reset the instance for you when you log out/swap characters.
4. run to the boss Antu'sul's cave, and perform a jumping alt+f4 log out skip off the cage, porting you to the entrance of zf.
What is the plate addon?
@@williamwallace1918 kui
Don't the mobs receive a speed buff after being in combat for a certain amount of time?? I feel like that would max this 10x harder.
@@athoraxe4144 no, that is only on sod and other expansions.
hey i just started learning the run, i fell near the grave mommies, next to the boss, in an awkward corner it seemed i couldn't go out. Does it remind to you something or i was just bad to exit the spot ?
@@erzem421 there are some holes you can't get out of like that, yeah.
@@KullSSBM sorry another question, does curse of elements which lasts 5 mins prevent the 40 secs xp loss ? It doesn't deal damage but is it considered hostile action ? Might help to deal even more with rain of fire right
@erzem421 it is considered a hostile action, but it still follows the 40 second rule
@@KullSSBM oh so the xp loss will proc on the mob despite the curse being active on it ? I though till the curse is active it is considered as hostile action, so you have 5 minutes without worrying about it
@@erzem421 it's not a proc, it's a rule. If all you did was CoE, then you haven't done any damage, you wont get reduced exp because the mob is still at 100%. If you deal damage to them and don't do any hostile actions toward them for 40 seconds, there exp will be reduced to there current health %. The hostile action is when it is casted, not when it ends.
Hey buddy does it work on new fresh classic servers ? If so i specialised in affliction tree would you go there at lvl 40 or a bit later to grind xp ?
@@erzem421 yes it does! And I would start at 40 if you're used to solo instance farms. Otherwise I'd wait till 43 or 45. Aggro ranges become a lot more lenient as you level up. Demo takes a considerably longer time to clear, so I recommend affliction.
@@KullSSBM Ok thanks for the reply, i"m lvl 38 on fresh right now i was hesitant on solo grinding as usual or try you methid wich seems faster
@@KullSSBM Thank you for documenting this farm. NGL this farm is so so so hard. I have been doing it for 18 ish hours and still fail 50% of the time at some stage.
@@benblack1180 this is one of the easiest solo dung farms mate
Are Maraudon Boosts going to be a thing in SoD p3?
boosting is ilegal.
Probably not, it's impossible to gather the mobs properly with them immune to slows.
i keep getting killed bc the walls aren’t automatically dismounting me. lord almighty
what is the name of your mana tick addon ?
5secondrule
KULL IS BISSSSSS
Do you pull the witch doctor doing this?
@@jamesmulvey7949 yes, you will always pull him, but he resets as you set up to rof. Just never directly attack him.
@@KullSSBM I want to pull him to try and get the staff to drop haha...have you managed to incorporate him into a pull?
@@jamesmulvey7949 never bothered honestly
Dude this is great
Reset spot work as Gnome Male
I need ur addons
I don't think this is possible in SoD sadly
evade spot works on human female (including meta form)
Thanks! Adding to the list
It's entirely possible to do this without any void sacs at level 44, saving multiple shards per run. I really don't suggest doing this any earlier as the kill phase takes longer due to the orange and red mobs resisting so much damage, wasting time and potentially gutting your experience for not tagging mobs within 30s of each damage. This is possible earlier, but you'll want the level 44 and 215+ defense to not get crushing blow'd by as many mobs as well as a smaller aggro radius, pulling less mobs. Plus, having a higher defense makes you less likely to get dismounted if struck from behind albeit you should be strafe jumping to avoid that anyway.
BUY 5-7 pieces with Stamina modifier!!! This is how you get there alive. You will take more hits than usual, you cannot make mistakes unlike mages with nova and blink and ice block and ice barrier and cold snap and .... You just don't get that kind of leeway as a warlock.
31 points into demonology, run with Demonic Embrace for the +15% stamina. -5% spirit sucks but it's not necessary for the kill phase (and I am fairly certain this is based on your BASE spirit, not added spirit. Naked, I have 82-1 spirit. With all my spirit gear on, I have 82+76-1. -5% spirit is FINE! ). Use your imp and make sure it has rank 4 (level 38) Blood Pact + Soul Link. I was doing these runs with ~2500 health, with soul link on a 600 health imp for about 3100 effective health pool. I did have a lot of pieces from scarlet monastery from spamming it from 29-44. I had 200 stamina total.
During the kill phase, swap to "of the Owl" or "Intellect" gear. More mana means more regeneration via Fel hunter sacrifice, as well as mana from just regular old spirit regeneration. You only have to tag the mobs once every 30s to avoid the loss of experience.
If you're having trouble with grouping the mobs up, rapidly jumping back and forth between the safe jump spot. Doing it quickly makes the mobs want to path down the hill towards you as if you fell down, making them cluster up into a tighter group.
hey i just got lvl 40 affliction drain tank build fo you think its worth doing at lvl 40 ?
Just want to clarify that mobs CANNOT fully resist AOE, only partially. Additionally, you WILL NOT lose your exp leash to a mob resisting, since you are doing a hostile action toward them. So that part of your first paragraph is not correct.
@@KullSSBM Partial resists is what I meant -- any resisted damage (even if partial) lowers your damage. I wasn't aware of the "Any hostile action" counting towards the 30s leeway of experience loss. Thanks for that though!
@@erzem421 At level 40... I really don't recommend it. Can it be done? Yes. But you're going to pull many more mobs on the run to the GY, and the kill time is going to take ~20 minutes, assuming you have enough of a mana pool to regenerate and cast Rank 2 Rain of Fire constantly. Downranking to keep tagging will work but it makes the kill take even longer.
Edit: I suggest doing SM Armory/Cath spams until AT LEAST 42.... and really, continue til 43 and then level somewhere else until 44. A single GY run awards about 35k exp and if it's taking you 1 hour for 2 runs (and this is optimistic at sub level 46 for rank 3 RoF), that's 70k/exp an hour.
It says using that macro, could compromise my character D:
@@carloscruz-yd4hh that's just a prompted warning that comes up the first time you enable macros with scripts
SoD Shadow Priest should be able to do this too
i tried this on wotlk , and there are no evade spots , enemy just ported on me :D
Interesting! Never tried it on any other version of wow personally
@@KullSSBM can i do this on SoD?
Yeah i try in lichking too cause im gonna doing zf in sod p3. But yeah, no evade spot. And the mobs can walk on the wall
@@sllll7457 assuming nothing changes
wotlk is patched. mobs will directly come to you when you are on a ledge
I was using doting with siphon life and it was fine
In era? or sod?
Thanks for sharing. If you Demonic Sacrifice your Felguard, you gain every pet bonus. You gain +15 % Shadow/Fire damage, 3% health and 2% mana every 4 sec. 😊
Glhfss
no felguard in classic era
@@KullSSBM the new rune of felguard
@@NubbinzGaming that's in sod, not classic era
Thanks for sharing!
Fuck mages? Sir I invented this strat on my mage!
How dare you M*ge swine come to my video!!!
✅ "promo sm"
Its so slow 😂
1.5hr levels without rested exp is real slow, yeah
Hi, great video? But each sentence? Sounds? Like a question? Why? Speak like this? Stop? Please?
you're welcome to transcribe the video :)
@@KullSSBM You need to get it out of your system man. Only girls talk like that. It does not convey confidence at all...
@@TC-dg5pm everything ok bro?
@@KullSSBM Stop making each sentence sound like a question. Only teen girls do that :)
@@TC-dg5pm the irony of you making weird assumptions about my confidence based on my speaking voice when I read a script, and deleting the comment later, is very telling of your own insecurities and issues my dude.