The new Apex Predator + Cartesian Coordinate is also a good choice, potentially better than Iterative Loop and The Hothead. Cartesian can roll with Vorpal weapon for a 15% damage increase against bosses and Apex Predator can roll with Bait and Switch, which is a 35% damage buff (higher than Explosive Light). I don't have Apex Predator crafted yet, so I can't really test out the combo. But on paper, if Jolt is applied by another person, Cartesian + Apex likely can outperform Iterative Loop + The Hothead.
i hit 5.1 mil on nezzy in one phase using this, although i consumed the grenades instead of throwing them to get an extra 2 threadings and used the moon fusion with frenzy for max hand/ reload
It’s also good to notice that for Season 21, we have artifact perks that enhance unraveling effects AND debuff targets for Void and Arc abilities. Broodweaver gang looking up this season.
The best part is that none of it is crit damage, so you don't need worry about aiming at small heads, and you don't really need Divinity since the Tractor Cannon / Shadow Shot weaken is better
Ya. I run tractor most of the time on my hunter (arc stick and vorpal fusion) even just because of the high uptime, not to say shadowshot doesn’t work it just tends to be better for specific ranges.
Aiming that super at small target would be a nightmare tho. Something about that and Wardcliff Coil keep straying off the target for me is one of the world mystery.
Jesus selFu, thank you for showing all the mods and build. Because many ppl just telling about it but not showing actual things. That's how it should be in the first place! Keep It going!
Just for information, if you use the apex predator in this setup with reconstruction and bait and switch you can shoot 2 rockets (buffed by bait and switch) in this rotation which ups the dmg a ton👍🏼
Not really no. For one, he is using iterative loop and hothead. Which allows him to double dip into triple arc surge instead of having to divide up his surges amongst 2 elements. Secondly, as cool as reconstruction is, it takes 4 seconds at base to load a rocket, 3.5 seconds enhanced; base auto loading is 2.5 and 2.3 seconds enhanced. You’d spend more time waiting for a rocket to come out with reconstruction or a demo rocket.
@@Blanktester685 not for this season lol. There’s no Solar surge. At all. There is a permanent arc surge for this season. A field prep clown cartridge hothead will do more DPS than an apex combo for most individuals
@@Krevspirejokes on you, I dont even get to use my heavy weapon. Somehow usually no one has tractor cannon so I use it and still do more damage in LFGs
@@mutantraze3681 😂 Tractor dps meta lol. Imagine if all buffed / debuffed damage is added to buff / debuff source instead of the damage source, would be wild. But I don't know if this would even be possible, especially with debuffs.
@@ItzVoid76 nah, you wanna keep the rocketlauncher and fusion same element for the surge mods. Solar: Apex predator + cartesian or maybe royal executioner, Arc: hothead + iterative loop or techeoun force.
Just as an FYI, do NOT use voltshot for damage setups anymore. the jolt values have been standardized to be the same across the board (which is a MASSIVE nerf) I would recommend techeun force with rewind rounds/controlled burst as it's now best in slot for arc fusions specifically.
@@wissende_8148 it seems like it is, because there's no way they just kill the perk off like this. It doesn't even get buffed by damage buffs (well, lumina, surges etc)
@@marceletta Thanks. I've got a crafted techeun, but with new top dps rockets like apex and cold comfort, I'm not sure if it's still worth using an arc special. I don't have cartesian either which sucks.
I'm Thinking about two rolls on Apex Predator. First is sideways + bait and switch for broodweaver. This loop would be melee, witherhoard, fusion, rocket, grenade, rocket, slide, rocket, wither, fusion, grenade, rocket, slide, rocket. The other is for rain of fire. Rocket, proc heat rises, rocket, dodge, rocket, dodge, rocket
This sounds like it might cause problems for most "stand and shoot" bosses like Nezarec, Macrocosm, Taniks, etc. You'll be sliding/dodging into your fireteams shots. Highly likely you've already considered, but thought I'd mention in case you hadn't
These are great for solo content but awful for anything involving team dps. You'll just be sliding and dashing into other peoples way while dpsing. Not to mention recon + b&s does far more than that since you're actively doing dps the entire time rather than wasting seconds sliding & dashing.
That wouldn't work that well because you'd need to keep the Vorpal rocket held all the time, ergo you wouldn't be able to swap weapons to Iterative Loop and Witherhoard. Vorpal also isn't as good a damage buff as Explosive Light: explosive light is a 25% damage buff vs Vorpal's 10% on heavy weapons. A better way of keeping the poison damage around for the entire DPS phase is just to use your powered melee multiple times in the rotation, since Broodweavers have 3 melee charges.
I would swap out iterative for Hollow Words with Vorpal - and wow Very solid as someone else can jolt with a simple grenade instead of having to find a kill then only for 7 seconds
I saw a version of this video where you can use it on any strand character. A little different and optimized for the new Apex with Reconstruction and Bait and switch. But uses similar mods to trigger grenade regeneration and no specific armour needed.
From my testing, it does damage the enemy but it’s pitiful damage. Tested on Carl and it was doing a lame 6k damage each shot lol. Someone else on r/DTG mentioned about Jolt doing pitiful 2k on all weapon types and all enemies in Neomuna patrol. Might be bugged, or they may have taken the “consolidation” nerf too far
@@stefansalvatore3486 that's sinply the nerf lol, bungie doesn't use nerf scalpels, they use nerf jackhammers, I mean look at what they did to stompees
This setup is fantastic, and honestly way more enjoyable than Starfire imo… only problem is I’m the only warlock in my raid group… meaning I can’t use this for damage cuz I get bullied into well
Can you make some solid bake strategies for the other two classes? I would love to see what you can make work with titan (despite being a hunter main, titans have just gotten shafted as of late outside of pvp so I would like to see something work.
Say whatever you want. But we all know 95% of that damage comes from that weapon setup. My friend used broodweaver, but didn't use witherhoard/rocket. I used Lament and did 2mil more damage.
Of course it is mostly from the weapon setup, you are after all doing damage with your weapons lol. The strand subclass is there to enhance your weapon setup, i.e. grenade regen and weapon reload.
Ok so I'm not crazy, swarmers are useless. I literally did the same thing yesterday and swapped to necrotic so I was happy to hear you say that 😂 Although I noticed the super is kinda hard to hit single target DPS
@@Kill3r55_ idk what slova bomb is and agreed sadly about swarmers. Unfortunate that that is the very FIRST thing people will recommend to you. I feel better already using necrotic and osteo striga but need to try this. I still am not sure how they survive using 1 special, 2 heavies and not a single primary. No idea how they get ammo unless one of the warlocks on their team is wearing cenotaph exotic..
idk how much it changes it, but itterative loop is a rapid fire frame and techeun force is an adaptive so it might fuck around a bit with the timings of auto loading, but maybe it is good idk
It's awesome to see people still passionate about the game, even if this information in front of us means we're getting the only fun warlock class nerfed.
not demo, you should be running thread of ascent for grenade reloads. not slideways, good luck sliding around a well in a raid setting and not hearing "guardian down" every two seconds
@@_ghostly_ you would use osteo to apply the tick damage instead. Definitely less damage than witherhoard but not sure how significant a loss. Would be very doable to go into the dps phase with 100 rounds as well.
@@meta572 royal executioner (last season’s) can get similar firerate with more damage per shot and reservoir burst, which is a higher damage buff than Vorpal. For cases where all you need to worry about is dps, sure I’d use Cartesian + Wither and Apex. But for more general play where you need to worry about adds and doing shit other than dps, I’d go for Osteo + Royal Exec and Apex instead
yes you need a kill but voltshot is better than fusion w/ reservoir burst, if there isn';t any ADs for you to kill to get voltshot then you can run the latter
Not really worth it. It would be hard go maintain the verity's buff for a dps phase and you'd need to change one of your weapons for a strand weapon to proc the buff at all.
Iv don’t 4 mil 648 damage with star eaters auto loading hot hear wither hoard and a Cartesian coordinate with a explosive light hot head with auto just auto and a random buff with no Gali buttt I’m trying to get a auto exp light so I can try and get 6m
Sunbracers on Solar Warlock. An Insurmountable Skullfort on Arc Titan so you can swap to Curiass T-Crash for boss damage or just Synthoceps on Solar. Assassin's Cowl on Arc Hunter.
@@shoxd2350 Healing wise, nothing much other than your rift. I typically would sacrifice Witherhoard for Osteo, super solid add clearing when combined with Necrotic Grip.
Try getting techeun force with rewind rounds and controlled burst. Dont know the direct damage comparison since nobody has really tested that roll yet but I have to imagine its good. More damage, faster charge time, and up to 60% of your ammo back from rewind
Are the threadling grenades required? For example if using necrotic grips with shackle grenade prior to DPS phase, is it a big deal to keep shackle on?
@@selFu well yeah but most dps phases are followed by a bunch of ad clearing so you cant really switch to threadling nades unless you kill the cooldown
If you have a teammate running Arc or Two Tailed Fox with catalyst, then there's your Voltshot. If not and there are no adds, Voltshot would simply be useless.
with how long you can actually hold the reload for voltshot, you can easily apply it since almost all bosses have ads leading up to their damage phases.
Can this work if I swap out witherhoard for izanagi if I use ophidian aspect? And can I replace hothead with a crafted and enhanced Palmyra b with the same roll?
I think your damage will be a bit lower because he's using arc reserves, arc surge and arc dexterity. if you use Palmyra you will need to use the stasis version of those mods but then your fusion won't get those buffs, unless you use a stasis fusion but those can't apply Jolt, you can tell a teammate to apply it tho.
Palmyra's frame got a pretty big nerf so you won't be doing nearly as much damage at all. Witherhoard & Jolt are what helps charge the aspect that gives your nade back, so you'd be losing out on more "demo" rockets and the rockets you do use will do far less damage.
@@meekumanu Only 1 person gets unravel aswell, but that's not as popular as witherhoard although with the pistol unravel becoming popular that could change quickly in typical raid groups.
Easy to start the damage phase (unlike most bosses), boss is big and doesnt move around much so its easy to hit it (unlike nez or rhulk), damage phase lasts for a respectable amount of time (unlike templar), and it doesnt have any special crit modifiers (unlike shuro chi or any taken techeuns)
Kinda since you don’t have to worry about auto loading with the grenade and fragment with this build. But auto loading is still preferred so you can spam rockerts way more. Without it you only get it auto loaded when you use a grenade
That's actually preferred over hothead. That roll is the highest dps in terms of rockets and you'll be able to dump your mag much quicker. It's the same rotation except you're starting with 1 rocket then swapping to voltshot & witherhoard to proc b&s then rocket, nade, fusion, rocket, nade, fusion etc. etc.
I wish grapple grenade was meta but its trash in comparison to suspend you just completely stop all adds from doing anything to you is better then just a strong web slinging melee
The new Apex Predator + Cartesian Coordinate is also a good choice, potentially better than Iterative Loop and The Hothead. Cartesian can roll with Vorpal weapon for a 15% damage increase against bosses and Apex Predator can roll with Bait and Switch, which is a 35% damage buff (higher than Explosive Light).
I don't have Apex Predator crafted yet, so I can't really test out the combo. But on paper, if Jolt is applied by another person, Cartesian + Apex likely can outperform Iterative Loop + The Hothead.
i hit 5.1 mil on nezzy in one phase using this, although i consumed the grenades instead of throwing them to get an extra 2 threadings and used the moon fusion with frenzy for max hand/ reload
Also Vorpal is 15% on a special
Vorpal is a 15% buff on Special Weapons.
Wouldn’t techeun force be better? Even though it wouldn’t be buffed by surges
@@brindogg Thanks, corrected!
It’s also good to notice that for Season 21, we have artifact perks that enhance unraveling effects AND debuff targets for Void and Arc abilities. Broodweaver gang looking up this season.
The only issue is those mods currently give a very small amount. 10% for Unraveling, and 5% Arc and Void damage against Strand debuffed enemies
@@deadeyexl8392 The unravelling one is almost definitely bugged
@@meekumanu I hope so. I was super excited to use it cause I love Unravel, but the damage increase just isn't worth it atm.
Unfortunately my fireteam is still gonna want me to run well 😔
@@diregorlock628 ignore them and let them suffer
The best part is that none of it is crit damage, so you don't need worry about aiming at small heads, and you don't really need Divinity since the Tractor Cannon / Shadow Shot weaken is better
Ya. I run tractor most of the time on my hunter (arc stick and vorpal fusion) even just because of the high uptime, not to say shadowshot doesn’t work it just tends to be better for specific ranges.
Aiming that super at small target would be a nightmare tho. Something about that and Wardcliff Coil keep straying off the target for me is one of the world mystery.
Rockets and fusions don't do crit damage anyway.
@@RobGThai Needlestorm has ok single target tracking even at point blank, but it does risk just attacking random ads if there's too much going on
I use izi rotation on for easy crit bosses like riven and this rotation for ones that are harder to Krit like nezarec
I'm so glad swarmers is optional, I've been loving necrotic grip
I always thought swarmers was midddd
@penileymajorey7174they aren't bad
@penileymajorey7174 what don't you understand
This is probably the best D2 Content Creator I’ve seen in the entire franchise’s lifetime
Agreed. Literally the perfect guide
no bullshit, straight to the point, very honest. gotta agree
I have been waiting for something like this for the new season. Thank you.
wish more content was like this: to the point, informative, not a bunch of "contenting". thank you
The best part is that this also works with other classes with varying degrees of success. Swarmers + Needlestorm just makes this the best on warlocks.
actually the best destiny 2 creator
He has a lot of lowkey knowledge, like his Stronghold build.
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@@Rm_OneNiner 🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢
Perfect pairing for the tractor canon hunter DPS set up
Jesus selFu, thank you for showing all the mods and build. Because many ppl just telling about it but not showing actual things. That's how it should be in the first place! Keep It going!
Just for information, if you use the apex predator in this setup with reconstruction and bait and switch you can shoot 2 rockets (buffed by bait and switch) in this rotation which ups the dmg a ton👍🏼
Not really no. For one, he is using iterative loop and hothead. Which allows him to double dip into triple arc surge instead of having to divide up his surges amongst 2 elements. Secondly, as cool as reconstruction is, it takes 4 seconds at base to load a rocket, 3.5 seconds enhanced; base auto loading is 2.5 and 2.3 seconds enhanced. You’d spend more time waiting for a rocket to come out with reconstruction or a demo rocket.
@@c_l_a_d_d_i_x Cartesian and apex is better
@@Blanktester685 not for this season lol. There’s no Solar surge. At all. There is a permanent arc surge for this season. A field prep clown cartridge hothead will do more DPS than an apex combo for most individuals
there is no arc surge in normal raids and dungeons
Poor Phry’zhia. Fella got absolutely cooked. Great video
It was about time Carl got some rest in most dps showcases
Thanks for the updated video! Looking forward to you testing new LW fusion and rocket! :)
Thank you very much, i got 3m7 in votd with this build, super good
How to out dps everyone. Step one, make everyone else use buffs for your build. Step two, profit.
As the only Warlock in my group, "Born to Nova/Needlestorm, forced to Well" is quite applicable.
This x100
@@Krevspirejokes on you, I dont even get to use my heavy weapon. Somehow usually no one has tractor cannon so I use it and still do more damage in LFGs
@@mutantraze3681 😂 Tractor dps meta lol.
Imagine if all buffed / debuffed damage is added to buff / debuff source instead of the damage source, would be wild.
But I don't know if this would even be possible, especially with debuffs.
@@mutantraze3681cap
necrotic grip main since 8nception swapping only to assemble boots or aeons. I love this
Love your voice btw, a very welcome addition though I have nothing against text on screen 🙌
Witherhoard, Cartisian Coord, Apex Predator with either that Broodweaver setup or Well with Battle Mantle is too good.
yup and can swap out wither for izi if needed
Switch Cartesian the the last wish fusion and it should burst out more
@@ItzVoid76 nah, you wanna keep the rocketlauncher and fusion same element for the surge mods. Solar: Apex predator + cartesian or maybe royal executioner, Arc: hothead + iterative loop or techeoun force.
@@ItzVoid76 double dipping in surges>having a good weapon of a different element
very good short video :D
Ive swapped this out for Cartesian and Apex Predator. Its absolutely goated
You can use Felwinter's helm here, for 30% debuff
That's interesting but it says it relies on kills
When I see these boss speedrun’s folks do my jaw hangs open. Guess I need to infuse tractor cannon.
Just as an FYI, do NOT use voltshot for damage setups anymore. the jolt values have been standardized to be the same across the board (which is a MASSIVE nerf)
I would recommend techeun force with rewind rounds/controlled burst as it's now best in slot for arc fusions specifically.
Im hoping its just a fuck up on bungies end from when they nerfed the damage and not actually a stealth nerf
@@wissende_8148 it seems like it is, because there's no way they just kill the perk off like this. It doesn't even get buffed by damage buffs (well, lumina, surges etc)
@@marceletta is this still nerfed or did they fix?
@@resistanced4 still nerfed
@@marceletta Thanks. I've got a crafted techeun, but with new top dps rockets like apex and cold comfort, I'm not sure if it's still worth using an arc special. I don't have cartesian either which sucks.
Swap iterative with Rewind Controlled burst Techiun and never worry about the voltshot fusion again.
The Nerfed Star Fire but, gave Strand a built in Star Fire lmao gg
Always like the vids dude
I'm Thinking about two rolls on Apex Predator.
First is sideways + bait and switch for broodweaver. This loop would be melee, witherhoard, fusion, rocket, grenade, rocket, slide, rocket, wither, fusion, grenade, rocket, slide, rocket.
The other is for rain of fire. Rocket, proc heat rises, rocket, dodge, rocket, dodge, rocket
This sounds like it might cause problems for most "stand and shoot" bosses like Nezarec, Macrocosm, Taniks, etc. You'll be sliding/dodging into your fireteams shots. Highly likely you've already considered, but thought I'd mention in case you hadn't
These are great for solo content but awful for anything involving team dps. You'll just be sliding and dashing into other peoples way while dpsing.
Not to mention recon + b&s does far more than that since you're actively doing dps the entire time rather than wasting seconds sliding & dashing.
If you use vorpal on your rocker the necrotic tick will stick around unless someone uses chill clip or stasis on the target.
That wouldn't work that well because you'd need to keep the Vorpal rocket held all the time, ergo you wouldn't be able to swap weapons to Iterative Loop and Witherhoard. Vorpal also isn't as good a damage buff as Explosive Light: explosive light is a 25% damage buff vs Vorpal's 10% on heavy weapons. A better way of keeping the poison damage around for the entire DPS phase is just to use your powered melee multiple times in the rotation, since Broodweavers have 3 melee charges.
Good, the only thing that I am missing is lightfall for the strand
Use sanguine alchemy if you don't have a well of radiance warlock for extra damage without well
Your on strand though... good idea tho
The new Apex predator from Last Wish with Reconstruction/Bait + Switch would be a better heavy for this setup I believe
These new last wish rolls really got me slaving away at Kalli
Yea 100% even better if you use a solar fusion like Cartesian, royal executioner or the moon one
Which encounter does the Apex drop ?
@@KHALIF-7 Any/all. So farming Kalli is the best since it's around a minute/run
@@KHALIF-7 it should be from any encounter as far as I know
I would swap out iterative for Hollow Words with Vorpal - and wow Very solid as someone else can jolt with a simple grenade instead of having to find a kill then only for 7 seconds
I saw a version of this video where you can use it on any strand character. A little different and optimized for the new Apex with Reconstruction and Bait and switch. But uses similar mods to trigger grenade regeneration and no specific armour needed.
where?
@@joshuamershon9766 Above made the video on Apex, different rotation, but similar.
Jolt is bugged right now to not damage the enemy who is jolted, so it's even better than your testing :P
From my testing, it does damage the enemy but it’s pitiful damage. Tested on Carl and it was doing a lame 6k damage each shot lol. Someone else on r/DTG mentioned about Jolt doing pitiful 2k on all weapon types and all enemies in Neomuna patrol. Might be bugged, or they may have taken the “consolidation” nerf too far
@@stefansalvatore3486 that's sinply the nerf lol, bungie doesn't use nerf scalpels, they use nerf jackhammers, I mean look at what they did to stompees
selfu W
This setup is fantastic, and honestly way more enjoyable than Starfire imo… only problem is I’m the only warlock in my raid group… meaning I can’t use this for damage cuz I get bullied into well
Just dont, force a titan to use bubble for once
Can you make some solid bake strategies for the other two classes? I would love to see what you can make work with titan
(despite being a hunter main, titans have just gotten shafted as of late outside of pvp so I would like to see something work.
unless youre the only warlock then everyone starts crying about their precious well
Just got the crafted apex predator and nation of beasts and soon to have the fusion crafted
Say whatever you want. But we all know 95% of that damage comes from that weapon setup. My friend used broodweaver, but didn't use witherhoard/rocket. I used Lament and did 2mil more damage.
Of course it is mostly from the weapon setup, you are after all doing damage with your weapons lol. The strand subclass is there to enhance your weapon setup, i.e. grenade regen and weapon reload.
Can someone explain why jolting the target is important
What do you think about the new techeun force roll w/ rewind+controlled burst for this setup?
Ok so I'm not crazy, swarmers are useless. I literally did the same thing yesterday and swapped to necrotic so I was happy to hear you say that 😂
Although I noticed the super is kinda hard to hit single target DPS
you need to kill any adds first then it will hit only the boss
@@ArmisHart 👌 preciate the assist. Yeah it seems to be almost like slova bomb in that manner
@@Kill3r55_ idk what slova bomb is and agreed sadly about swarmers. Unfortunate that that is the very FIRST thing people will recommend to you. I feel better already using necrotic and osteo striga but need to try this. I still am not sure how they survive using 1 special, 2 heavies and not a single primary. No idea how they get ammo unless one of the warlocks on their team is wearing cenotaph exotic..
holy shit
In this scenario, how would techeun force w/ controlled burst and either rewind rounds or reconstruction compare if it replaced iterative loop?
idk how much it changes it, but itterative loop is a rapid fire frame and techeun force is an adaptive so it might fuck around a bit with the timings of auto loading, but maybe it is good idk
i watched the whole, it was a good video, but no i wont do any of these as i only play titan. titan supremacy
It's awesome to see people still passionate about the game, even if this information in front of us means we're getting the only fun warlock class nerfed.
Без негатива, я использовал этот весь билд ещё до нерфа звёздного протокола. Потому что у нити было больше урона с таким набором)
what left column perk would you choose for apex predator? demo or reconstruction... or maybe slideways?
not demo, you should be running thread of ascent for grenade reloads. not slideways, good luck sliding around a well in a raid setting and not hearing "guardian down" every two seconds
why are grenades reloading the rocket? is that a strand thing? the rocket didn't have demolitionist
I have an apex pred with BnS/Recon Impact and quick, what could my setup or rotation look like from yours?
Does anyone think that Apotheosis would be a good alternative? Especially if other warlocks are running it? Thoughts wanted
another exotic I'd recommend is felwinter's helm, for solo content or if nobody wants to run tractor
I live fel winters, but having ads present to debuff can be an issue
i might try to see how this could be worked into my suspend build for encounters where you cant do tripple dps weapons
Drop witherhoard for an exotic primary and just remove it from the rotation, iterative loop is already good for both ad clear and DPS
What is the fastest way to recharge the grenade, I can't get it to recharge fast.
Could you show some extended gameplay e.g. a dungeon encounter so we can see what other buffs you use and how good it is for add clearing
Rift, Forbearance, and melee couple adds when possible. You could swap out Witherhoard for Osteo Striga.
@@selFu wouldn't swapping wh for os be pointless because when you switch back for DPS phase you have no ammo for it?
@@_ghostly_ you would use osteo to apply the tick damage instead. Definitely less damage than witherhoard but not sure how significant a loss. Would be very doable to go into the dps phase with 100 rounds as well.
@@_ghostly_ you don't switch back
@@selFu ok thanks mate I tried it out yesterday and it's a damn good build for DPS and add-clearing
wait is phryzia’s name fixed?
What about the new last wish fusion??
The last wish fusion with the budget merciless perk ( controlled burst ) is a good sub with apex predator with enhanced recon + Bait n switch
Only problem is last wish rocket is solar while the fusion is arc. So you can't have max surges for both
@@meta572 cartesian or last season fusion might be the play here
@@stefansalvatore3486 cartesian def because it can actually get useful perks
@@meta572 royal executioner (last season’s) can get similar firerate with more damage per shot and reservoir burst, which is a higher damage buff than Vorpal.
For cases where all you need to worry about is dps, sure I’d use Cartesian + Wither and Apex. But for more general play where you need to worry about adds and doing shit other than dps, I’d go for Osteo + Royal Exec and Apex instead
@@stefansalvatore3486 yeah prob that for any add clear. Especially since last seasons fusion you can craft and was easy to get patterns for.
have you tried Deathbringer?
It's doing a ton of damage for some reason.
It has always done a ton of damage its just really inconsistent
@@Ninjippo I think it's doing even more since I did 4M in Nezarec with deathbringer and Nova Bomb only
what can u replace iterative loop with?
I’m curious to see if techeun force or loaded question with the new controlled burst perk will work better than iterative loop.
It probably would be if someone else applies the jolt. Without the jolt idk
yo, you planning on doing a build with the new strongholds?
Probably sometime after the dungeon. It'll just be a slightly indepth overview as the exotic is currently bugged.
@@selFu thats a fair point, looking forward to it, loving the content
Is clown cartridge and auto loading viable as well?
Tarnished mettle is nice😊
So if he's using auto loading how is he reloading his rocket by throwing out his grenade? Anyone else notice that?
He's using thread of ascent
The fragment automatically reloads ALL your weapons everytime you use a grenade lol. Don’t even need to put it away
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How do you get special/heavy ammo prior to this boss?
Is it possible to do this with slower weapon switching in controller/console? I noticed on controller weapon switching is much slower
Why do you need Iterative Loop with voltshot? Don’t you need a kill to proc it?
Why not run a fusion with reservoir burst or a different damage perk?
yes you need a kill but voltshot is better than fusion w/ reservoir burst, if there isn';t any ADs for you to kill to get voltshot then you can run the latter
if you are only targeting the boss and not clearing adds will voltshot even proc?
For the exotic Armor could you use Verity's brow to boost the made ?
Not really worth it. It would be hard go maintain the verity's buff for a dps phase and you'd need to change one of your weapons for a strand weapon to proc the buff at all.
Run apotheosis for extra threadlings after super cast
Why do you have demolitionist but say that you should use auto loading and explosive light?
its the thread of ascent fragment, not demo
@@resistanced4I completely forgot that existed
Iv don’t 4 mil 648 damage with star eaters auto loading hot hear wither hoard and a Cartesian coordinate with a explosive light hot head with auto just auto and a random buff with no Gali buttt I’m trying to get a auto exp light so I can try and get 6m
What are you using on your artifact
Awesome video. How are you getting hothead to reload while it's stowed?
Autoloading does that. Thread of Ascent reloads it when I throw a grenade.
@@selFu Ah yes, makes sense. Thanks for getting back to me! Great content!
Is this a good build for solo if you don't have any debuffs?
Hey man serious question, can this be done with palmyra/riptide with similar results?
Are you using demo on the hothead?
What is recommended for survivability? There isn't much ad clear once abilities go down
Sunbracers on Solar Warlock. An Insurmountable Skullfort on Arc Titan so you can swap to Curiass T-Crash for boss damage or just Synthoceps on Solar. Assassin's Cowl on Arc Hunter.
@@selFu I mean when using this dps build
@@shoxd2350 Healing wise, nothing much other than your rift. I typically would sacrifice Witherhoard for Osteo, super solid add clearing when combined with Necrotic Grip.
Can’t even get a single iterative loop to drop :P, any alternatives?
Try getting techeun force with rewind rounds and controlled burst. Dont know the direct damage comparison since nobody has really tested that roll yet but I have to imagine its good. More damage, faster charge time, and up to 60% of your ammo back from rewind
I’m pretty sure bungie said 3 copies of a mod has no effect, just 2
Now damage resist 3x does work.
@@alexandervowles3518 oh nice glad they changed it back
Are the threadling grenades required? For example if using necrotic grips with shackle grenade prior to DPS phase, is it a big deal to keep shackle on?
You can definitely run Shackle prior to DPS phase. Threading Grenade is only used for damage.
@@selFu well yeah but most dps phases are followed by a bunch of ad clearing so you cant really switch to threadling nades unless you kill the cooldown
Oh look another OP warlock DPS video. Cries in Titan
You can do this on Titan too, and only losing the super damage section. Besides, new No-backup Plans + Legend of Acrius FUCKS anything within range
If nobody else got me, I KNOW selFu got me
How u gonna apply jolt without other enemies? isnt voltshot just a waste on bosses without adds?
If you have a teammate running Arc or Two Tailed Fox with catalyst, then there's your Voltshot. If not and there are no adds, Voltshot would simply be useless.
with how long you can actually hold the reload for voltshot, you can easily apply it since almost all bosses have ads leading up to their damage phases.
your artifact?
I love how long it took the community to realize how good this is when it’s been better than starfire since strand came out
Can this work if I swap out witherhoard for izanagi if I use ophidian aspect? And can I replace hothead with a crafted and enhanced Palmyra b with the same roll?
I think your damage will be a bit lower because he's using arc reserves, arc surge and arc dexterity. if you use Palmyra you will need to use the stasis version of those mods but then your fusion won't get those buffs, unless you use a stasis fusion but those can't apply Jolt, you can tell a teammate to apply it tho.
Palmyra's frame got a pretty big nerf so you won't be doing nearly as much damage at all. Witherhoard & Jolt are what helps charge the aspect that gives your nade back, so you'd be losing out on more "demo" rockets and the rockets you do use will do far less damage.
now do it without witherhoard since your whole raid can't run it
still strong, just use a crafted Pardon Our Dust with Auto Loading + Vorpal in the exact same way
@@meekumanu Only 1 person gets unravel aswell, but that's not as popular as witherhoard although with the pistol unravel becoming popular that could change quickly in typical raid groups.
how does techeun force with the new perk perform in a rotation like this?
Swap it out for the useless Iterative loop.
I may not be smart but why do so many people test dps on the Ravenous Ogre?
Easy to start the damage phase (unlike most bosses), boss is big and doesnt move around much so its easy to hit it (unlike nez or rhulk), damage phase lasts for a respectable amount of time (unlike templar), and it doesnt have any special crit modifiers (unlike shuro chi or any taken techeuns)
I think the hardest part will be to remember properly the rotation. But this is looking pretty wild.
Is an Apex predator with impact casing + Reconstruction + bait and Switch viable to replace the hot head?
Kinda since you don’t have to worry about auto loading with the grenade and fragment with this build. But auto loading is still preferred so you can spam rockerts way more. Without it you only get it auto loaded when you use a grenade
That's actually preferred over hothead. That roll is the highest dps in terms of rockets and you'll be able to dump your mag much quicker. It's the same rotation except you're starting with 1 rocket then swapping to voltshot & witherhoard to proc b&s then rocket, nade, fusion, rocket, nade, fusion etc. etc.
@@maekoh can’t do that with apex predator unless you use the strand fragment. Otherwise you need an auto loading rl
@@hatchell18 Enhanced reconstruction is a better version of autoloading, so yes you can.
@@maekoh I thought with reconstruction you have to wait a while before it overflows the mag? That might only be with regular reconstruction though
Why does it need to be on broodweaver? Couldn’t this be viable on any strand subclass?
Because broodweaver is a burst damage super, all other strand supers are roaming
Yeah. Only difficulty would be A. getting unravel on and B. lack of super
Does witherhord and necrotic melee stack?
@regi grenski idk, if dot’s can stack.
is unraveling damage universal like witherhoard or seperate for players?
Universal I think
Is it possible to get a DIM link for this build?
Got it in the description.
@@selFu TY
if you use strand without the grapple grenade you're doing it wrong
I wish grapple grenade was meta but its trash in comparison to suspend you just completely stop all adds from doing anything to you is better then just a strong web slinging melee
@@Galactus23 I didn't say it was meta
How did you reload your rocket so fast for the last couple? Assuming you're running AL/EL
Same question
Well of Radiance warlock has Lunafaction Boots on
@@meekumanu Isn't that just faster reload though?
It looks like he's using demo rocket unless it's a fragment Ive missed
@@Mulgz It is a fragment. Thread of Ascent
@@wissende_8148 I see! Thanks 👍