Nearly 200 acres burned by Coastal Fire in Laguna Niguel
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- Mark Kono reports for the KTLA 5 Morning News on May 12, 2022.
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If I could afford a mansion ,I would have my own firetruck man!
At least a fire suppression system, & rooftop sprinklers.
GREAT POINT!! 👍🏻👍🏻
Some of the comments on here are really mean. Rich or poor, losing one's home is a tragedy. And, why fault them for being able to afford a home like these? If you work hard and earn a good living, what is wrong with that?
Its envy. People are envious of others who have what they dont, they dont stop to think what did these people do differently and assume they're scumbags, because their boss is rich and probably treats them like dirt, so they associate rich people = all the same, like a racist would judge someone.
It's not ab rich people being evil it's ab the class of society taking a turn where they finally suffer they are helpless new world order will be soon to come
Totally agree. I lost my home, business, and community to the Dixie fire this past summer. Didn’t matter your wealth or social status, it was devastating to all.
@Jim Sowa exactly. So many hurt pro nouns here today . Makes me 😅😆😁
@Jim Sowa Yup!
And every single area bred person knows what the hell to do and not to do.
That knowledge alone has saved many a life.
I hope everyone was able to get their pets and loved ones out safely.
This just in .... ...
No animals were harmed in the making of this video.
@@seeharvester but a bug was
@@onlythewise1 But it was an old bug, who had lived a full life. It was his time.
@@seeharvester yes ok thats different then
Definitely keep building homes out of two by fours, plywood, and particleboard, definitely keep putting petroleum based shingles on the roofs.
I don't know..., but, ok, that sounds good. But I want to pay top dollar for the materials. And slap it up cutting building code corners. Would that be good?
@@seeharvester You're getting good!!
And both are correct!
They have materials now, that are completely fire retardant.
But most don't want to worry about price, so they lowball their way through.
Definitely keep making kids, causing the problem
They need to go back to Spanish colonial building techniques. They built the buildings to resist fire. That was one of the reasons why they had mud walls and terra-cotta roofs. Those building techniques reduce the chances of fire spreading throughout the community. Admittedly, the structures in the community were built a lot closer than they are now.
Have fun with bugs in your house with those methods
They need to severely lessen the number of people living in extremely dry areas.
Besides, who do you think is the biggest suspects destroying all of these places?
One of the reasons I left Smog Angeles!!
You forget we live in Cali and have to deal with earthquakes too… mud would collapse
@@NoWayOut55 good to get away from the gays too
They need to stop making children, you tard
How does a tile roof and stucco siding totally burn down? With the interior burned out and next door was untouched?
Exactly!!!??!!!!😡
Stucco is not fire proof, combustion is a process that includes heat, fuel and oxygen, the framing behind the stucco can get hot enough to spontaneously combust. Eaves and openings, including doors and windows are also very vulnerable. It really depends on where the embers get to. Spoken as an architect who designs homes in extreme fire hazard areas.
There are a number of entry points for ember attack to finally reach critical mass and ignite a structure - exposed eaves, unscreened vents, uncovered ends of tile runs (especially if there's rat or bird nests), vinyl framed windows, wooden side fences/gates contacting the house, wooden sheds or even firewood against the house, vegetation directly under the eaves, plus the radiant heat can ignite the wooden studs behind the stucco Completely cleared slopes that leave the home totally exposed to the canyon can contribute as well..
The insulation value of stucco and traditional tile are a lot less than you may expect - only about 0.2 R-value, a fraction of fiberglass or mineral wool insulation. So even a modest brushfire like this one can get the stud wall framing behind that stucco hot enough to ignite it, or an ember can just get under an unprotected roof and lodge directly in an exposed wood rafter for an even more direct source of ignition. There have been a lot of new rules introduced in the past decade (when wildfires started to drastically increase in size) for vulnerable houses like these to reduce the ability of them to ignite, but if these houses are even fifteen years old, most of them will have been built in the older, more vulnerable style, and few owners update their buildings to protect them, so unfortunately, if a house isn't from about 2010 onwards, it won't have much protection from wildfire.
@@tpolerex7282 Thank you.
There is a popular public hiking trail right along the front of all these homes. The views of the coastline and Catalina are spectacular. I’ve been there many times taking photos and videos. In shock that this happened; but there’s a lot of very dry vegetation leading up the hill to this ridge, and high winds at times.
another example of homes burned down to the foundation while 20 feet away the shed is intact not even scorched.
The price we pay for living in the Mountains with a view...So sad to see these homes go up...
Mountains? Not so much!
Good to see no poor people were displaced and nobody died.
A few landscapers lost some work.
All lives are of equal value.
@@paraconsistentjojo Far from true!
As someone who works in insurance, it is ridiculous insurance companies insure people in these areas and beach front properties
Prob because the govt is involved.
Pretty sure there is nothing that money can't buy.
Many of the well-known insurance companies, such as AIG and Chubb, are refusing to cover (issuing non-renewals) for homes this valuable in CA. Like you implied, it's just too risky.
As someone that understands basic math, your logic is bad and dumb. Insurance companies sell insurance to make money, they just calculate the expected payout and then add a premium to that and sell it. Just because it is a high-risk high payout to insure a big home in a fire zone doesn't mean they wouldn't sell a costly insurance policy for a profit. Math is hard, I know.
@@joelwillis2043 at the expense of people who don't live in high risk areas.
James 5:1-6 ESV-“Come now, you rich, weep and howl for the miseries that are coming upon you. Your riches have rotted and your garments are moth-eaten. Your gold and silver have corroded, and their corrosion will be evidence against you and will eat your flesh like fire. You have laid up treasure in the last days. Behold, the wages of the laborers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, are crying out against you, and the cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of hosts. You have lived on the earth in luxury and in self-indulgence. You have fattened your hearts in a day of slaughter. ...”
Get a life.
Religious nuts cause more damage to humanity than the wealthy.
This just in: The Shelter at Crown Valley Community Center located at 29751 Crown Valley Parkway in Laguna Niguel, is open. Please come and enjoy a cup of espresso compliments of Starbucks. Dinner will be catered and served at 7pm. Transport to your hotel available 24 hrs. Plenty of space available as not 1 person has showed. up.
They all have second homes so you probably won’t be busy
Will there be coke & hookers?
They all went to the Ritz.
That one house between all the burned down ones are crazy. Home owner is probably one of those people you see spraying everything down with a water hose before the fire arrives and everything survived
I really wonder if that does much good.. for a home to catch fire it has to be burning at a pretty intense heat. Any water that you can get out of a garden hose and onto your structure would evaporate rather quickly by the time the fire arrived. I do remember a guy in L.A. I think it was the Glendale fires who had something equivalent to a fire hose through which he was able to suck water out of his pool. He was indeed able to save his home while others burned around him. So who knows. Still though, I couldn't fault a home owner for trying.
That's probably not the reason at all. He/she/they probably made sure their house was as close to ember proof as is feasible, and maybe had fire shutters on exterior windows facing the direction of the beautiful natural habitat. As the fire chief explained, it's almost entirely embers burning people's houses, not directly the wildfire or even vegetation in their yards.
And whattya know. Edison reported "circuit activity" in the area, a euphemism for "yeah, our shoddy electrical equipment caused yet another fire." SDG&E, PG&E and SCE give their campaign contributions; and in exchange Sacramento allows a revolving door of execs to bounce between working for utilities and sitting on the Public Utilities Commission and of course allow them to skate from updating decades old equipment and clearing brush. This has been a blatantly obvious issue going all the way back to the Witch Creek fire in San Diego in 2007 which had multiple electrical sources.
PG&E alone caused 1,500 fires in six years. They now list the utilities as the third most common cause of wildfires in CA, with the kicker being they have to be 100% certain in the investigation even if a utility looks suspect. Nuisance and company are acting all tough about it. If the politicians are really being tough, why are PUC meetings still closed to the public? Let that sink in.
Sure climate change is an issue, but so is the "new normal" of just allowing utilities to cause fires. I dunno, it's a complex issue involving insurance companies for the utilities, the expensive costs of updating equipment, and above all else allowing special interest groups to dictate policy in exchange for campaign contributions. Maybe this is just the way it needs to be. That ratepayers aren't hammered in general, but the people who choose to live in neighborhoods right next to tinder boxes shoulder the costs and only get back a percentage of their equity when their crib burns to the ground.
LN is north of Dana Point and westward from San Juan Capistrano. Very sad. Hope all owners have sufficient insurance and keep their valuables in private storage.
These poor dear families🙏
Almost lucky that it was in an rich neighborhood they can take care of them self imagine it was in Cathedral city or Redlands most southern California residents do not have fire insurance . The amount of animosity in the world we are stagnant as a nation
Its like a dream that there are houses that exist on hills like these. And look how big they are. It's strange to think that this place truly exists.
These homes are right up the hill from me in Laguna Beach. Tons of these homes are here all the way from to Laguna to Newport Beach.. non of which I could ever afford. To be honest, it's too much home for a single family in my opinion.
@@timotmon its alien in comparison to my small town in Kansas perception. I often find myself wishing that I could live like this for a year just for the experience. Thank you for your input. I appreciate your perspective.
Possibly
D.E.W. DIRECT ENERGY WEAPONS
Umm?
literally the most expensive homes in laguna niguel
Gotta have that nice view of the very fire prone canyons!
Karma.
It’s like hindsight is 20/20…but after seeing other fires, I’ve always thought that having a sprinkler system installed in attics and on/around the roof is a good idea.
Some of the most. Palmilla has the largest, and most expensive homes
in Laguna Niguel.
How are trees standing next to those homes?
Trees are standing, and the lawns are green. It's about hydration - believe it or not, sometimes native vegetation can actually help protect a home in a fire if used properly and lightly irrigated, since so little water is required to achieve fire-resistant hydration, compared to say, ice plant, which is boring, crappy erosion control, and doesn't block or catch embers.
They are green now but the fire cooked them. Soon the trees will be turning brown.
@@cal-native docile, foolish, and easily led
I bet the fire was set my crazed leftists
On top of a ridge between dry open brush fields is literally the worst spot to build a home in California. There should be a whole new business created for making your house more fireproof. It looked like 99% of it spread because embers getting under the roof tiles. They need to be sealed, treated and inspected for fire risk and really every house in high risk spots should be provided with some sort of preventative gel you spray on your house before evacuation. The city should provide it though the firemen where they determine the highest likely spots. It would make firemens job easier and safer and will prevent the spread of Covid. I mean fire.
Concrete
😄 Yes but the sunset view thru the smoky haze is sooo beautiful!
People make poor material choices based on finances.
It's pretty ate up in my small town.
Downtown hasn't enough water pressure to take care of any fire breaking out in an old wooden downtown area.
If a fire broke out downtown.
This city would not survive for quite awhile.
All because NO ONE PAID ATTENTION TO DETAIL.
Isn't cost effective. They make fireproofing that would stand up to wildifre temps (temporarily.) But, the cost of these products is too high. It costs about 200 dollars per gallon and that will cover around 250 square feet of your home exterior. You'd also need to cover the perimeter around your home, too. Most firetruck hold a out 1,000 gallons of water. It'd be 1/4 million dollars to fill 1 firetruck with proper retardant and that could, MAYBE provide temporary protection for 5 houses.
@@seeharvester 👍🤣🤣🤣🤣🥂
Too bad no Covid relief could be used in the state of California to mitigate these fires or to prevent future fires, But instead teach a crt curriculum🤔 These are elected officials that run the state
classic insurance fraud. this is causing other people with genuine problems with their house issues by raising premiums and not getting payouts
Seems fishy, not alot of vegetation in the area most clay tile roofs big gap from houses to brush.
Those hills are covered in dry brush what are you even talking about. I was there and have pictures if you want to see what was burning.
Considering one square mile contains 640 acres, this will put it into perspective. 200 acres isn't much ground.
You've gotta be kidding. Those fires were started on the inside of the homes. Not only that, the trees weren't touched. OPEN UP YOUR EYES.
And the world is flat or hollow ? Lol 😂
You must not be from Southern California.
What are you insinuating Mr.Michael ?
Happened in Colorado too, only took a few hours to raze 1000 homes, huh?
Australia too..
God Bless everyone ❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏
Oh no! Rich peoples houses!
No sympathy huh? For all we know, they're good ppl who donate to charities. The media and Government want us to hate the wealthy, or white ppl, or unvaccinated ppl. Really we should be thankful and pray for everyone. Love one another. 💜
@@melanielinkous8746 charity is a scam. It means society has massive problems and throwing a penny won't fix it.
@@nicholasakmon7750 nah i think it was trumps mistress
Dawwww someone's envious of people who are much more successful! That must suck to be you, you've got my sympathies
@@rickyhyppa7960 it's calling building in a Known fire zone is dumb. Just like you sweetie. You can't even come to that conclusion without being told. But you keep on assuming...... it fits you.
The sad part is that a lot of insurance providers are refusing to insure homes this valuable, in CA, because of how high the risk of fire is. I hope these home owners managed to get insured!
One of the things that strikes me in looking at this is 1)the ice plant covered slopes near the homes burned; 2) the fire skipped right past areas cleared to bare ground; 3) that clearing did nothing to mitigate the fire risk; 4) hydrated, thinned vegetation at the wildland/urban interface may have provided better ember catching/cooling opportunities and turbulence to break up ember flow. Unfortunately, common prescriptions often set up the perfect bowling alley for embers in wind-driven fires😣
The thing that strikes me is that these are multimillion dollar homes ...insurance pays for this meaning price of insurance goes up for everyone. They shouldn't have built or bought homes in this area to begin with.... but again these are mega rich people. I don't care, nobody else should either. When bad things happen to you these are the last people to care about it.
@horace sheffield I agree with you - it's a much better strategy not to build at the end of a CSS/chaparral filled box canyon. Great place to put a park!
The cleared land did what it was supposed to do. It stopped fire from forming there and burning vegetation in other directions. If you believe no embers landed on the cleared land, you're foolish.
@@k2cycles551 If they pay the premiums the insurance company set, what's the issue?
These homeowners should go without insurance coverage because the insurance company porks you?
Ignorant.
@@401Impala You must be extremely dense. These homeowners are buying homes in high risk areas to begin with. Its the height of entitlement to do this knowing the risk but that someone else will bail you out. Again, since you are uneducated ill explain it to you ....it's very simple it raises premiums across the board even for people who were smart enough to not buy in a fire prone area.
Knowing what we are and what we do.... keep that fire burning
Wym?
@@jungletroopr1212 I shouldn't have to explain, you are on earth aren't you
all those years are finally catching up to these fools
@@livonia1807 The high class of society will have no idea what to do with the loss when everything burns down .
Feel free to leave this country you communists!
😭😭beautiful houses 😭😭
Has the fire been contained?
So when you rebuild your mansion and you need a place to do it my place is not for sale
Very sad, prayers to all who lost their homes! 🙏🇺🇲
That’s what happens when you build houses 10 feet apart
That always amazes me how people build such big houses on such a tiny plot of land. It must be a housing project for the extreme wealthy. Every one has a swimming pool. I would invest in a portable fire pump & hose, in order to use that water to help save my home or my neighbor's.
@@Urbicide The police forces you to evacuate. No one is allowed to
stay behind to try to save their homes. Then the firefighters will try
to save the trees while your house burns to the ground.
The story of the ‘Three Little Pigs’!! Make ur house of BRICKS!! (Not drywall)
Not allowed in CA.
damn kind of looks like a lenses flare burn out...that must of been one huge magnifying glass....bless the people glad nobody got hurt..
Well you'd THINK these high end homes would be better prepared for such a situation.....but wouldn't make a big difference the way homes are on top of each other. If you live in a high fire danger area, get serious about creating defensible space around structures, sprinkler systems,fire pumps that are supplied by maybe a pool, or a dedicated tank/cistern that can give you a couple thousand gallons of water ready, with the ability to replenish water you use with your well/city water. If you're spending multiple 100's of thousands even multiple millions of dollars on a home then what's the extra money to go the extra mile to protect that investment. Removing brush and undergrowth, clean gutters, and covers for any exterior vents into the home goes a long way in itself, 100ft all the way around is ideal, more is better. If you have other homes that's in that 100ft then it certainly limits what you can do.
You are absolutely right.
You’re totally right. I lost my home to the Dixie fire this past summer. However it was so hot because California has terrible forest management that it burnt down everything, houses, cars, industrial buildings, it didn’t matter. The large fires are not natural.
@@jakecook1067 donnie told you to get a rake and start raking, why didn't you listen?
Damn that stinks😐🙁🙁 everything burning.
Poor little rich people in there enclave 🙏
Jealous.
Your hate and envy only hurt you.
@@paraconsistentjojo maybe but at least my normal house in a normal area isn't in a place already deemed a fire hazard before someone decided to build an enclave to satisfy the needs of the rich to be as far away from the poor as possible. If you're looking for sympathy for making a bad decision as an adult you've come to the wrong place 🙃🙂
Those canyons act like chimneys that suck the fire up hill. So the top edge is the most dangerous. More fire proof dome homes needed in CA.
... less idiot. The word you are looking for is less.
I emailed a picture to kcal of right when the fire started but they choose not to show it. Instead they say it started near the water treatment plant. If on the hillside 300yrd SW of the treatment plan is considered near, then okay.
Should have bought that volcano insurance
I'm not a professional but it looks like where it started along side of the water treatment plant road tells the story.
goats eating all of that underbrush would solve the issue...
Somewhere in the Berkeley hills of the East Bay there’s a herd of goats happily eating the underbrush as fire prevention.
Proof that Southern California has more money than brains.
No way! I hope everyone is okay.
Yes how sad. What will they do now😢
If they had the money to buy a house like that im sure they can rent an apartment like the rest pay check to pay check people
@@mhorlack just making sure you know i was being sarcastic. I could care less about these people and their mansions.
@@mhorlack You can't insure everything. There's no policy that covers family photos, maybe that baseball card your grandfather gave you on his death bed, that blanket that your mom knit for you before she passed. That guitar that you won at the fair, the trophy your son/daughter won in first grade.
It matters when this happens to poor people and it matters when this happens to rich people.
They are smart, they will be fine, they do not rely on the gov to support them!
In a blink of an eye the rich became broke and homeless
Launch at your own risk, water levels are low.
Those are mansions.
Avoid confusion , become born again and live.
Smart meters strike again!! You can always tell by the house burning from the inside out
How did the Fire start, Arson?? That is Horrifying, it's just so terrifying knowing there are such evil people in this world, so jealous and Hateful, to kill and destroy what others have, because they "have less than" just because you have less material things, Doesn't mean you are any less loved or Blessed, your riches are not of this world...actions and the way you treat others are what matter and your greatest Gift is to be a Blessing to others😍
Overpopulation
Oh no, stupidly rich people are collecting insurance money and they can afford to live in a hotel while they get a new, free house. Just think of all the useless things that have no real value but still costs thousands, all those poor golf carts.
Most southern California residents do not have fire insurance that’s a Norcal thing
I bet you make around 50k per year.
Rich people problem.
........or not a problem, they are all alive. They will rebuild better than ever.
well 200 acres sounds like a lot of land it's really not my farm is close to 300 acres and I can walk across it and a relatively short period of time in fact I do on a regular basis because I've got cattle and I've always got to be out finding one that wanders off or something.
I'd be looking into was someone trying to take out the water treatment plant.
Wondering are those houses made of BRICK?!?🤔 Or wood/drywall…
I was under the impression there was a water shortage . Not in
They have 24 million dollar helicopters that could have prevented this.
insurance fraud
This feels more mafia or cartel to me.
Right... how come the backyards didn't get burned? It doesn't make sense.
Looks like they burned inside out
My heart goes out to those families who lost their homes, and are having to start over. How very sad this brush fire devastated this hilltop area of Laguna Niguel! 😭😭
Hats off to all the firefighter teams who took action to extinguish the blaze. 🚒🚒🚒😱🙀🙀🚨🚨🚨🚨🔥🔥🔥🔥
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 they have twenty more homes and twenty more lives. Just ask Caitlin Jenner’s first family 🤣😂🤣😂
Very sad
Wonder what they will blame other than arson. But homes and communities like this, divert resources from communities and creates massive crime/poverty. So hard to feel too bad for their homes, but hope everyone is safe.
Sometimes when people made houses in wild areas nature takes over because location, location it does matter
Easily prevented if FF'ers on scene first, did their jobs.
Should be illegal to have a mansion in a drought state anyway
ok Bernie lover
Little boxes on a hillside,
And they're all made out of ticky tacky,
Little boxes on a hillside, little boxes all the same.
Firemen couldn't get it out
Damn that sucks
Too many people and not enough attention paid to new resident stupidity.
It's been getting worse since the 1960s.
Thank god it’s not another forest or desert yet like last year. Rather homes start and hope for evacuation. Can’t tell a dear to get his stuff and run to the city..
Isn't it amazing how California can't figure out desalination?? Why are houses on fire next to an ocean of water?
Look up Doheny Ocean Desalination Project.
No one wants it in their City and it costs a lot to build. It also destroys the marine life, no clear and effective way to reuse the brine after.
Those poor rich people...
Don't worry they plan and save well, this will not hurt them at all.
Should have put all the fake new Americans just came across to pick all the grass by the fire so it would stop burning.
200 acre fire in California. Thousands of views and comments from around the world.
Fire in other states.- nothing.
It’s pretty funny
Build your homes at the top of a chimney and leave the brush in place and you get to be on the news. Lots of fingers deserve pointing at. Builder-home owners-city council-city ordinances-Fire prevention bureau. Suppression did all they could do. Weak city leadership allowed this to happen.
County park. City did all that was required.
@@bkudla required by who? The fire did not know the written requirements. You just made my point.
My Heart Goes Out To These "poor rich people" ... Thankfully "we" are INSURED!!! 💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵
oh no
It's going to be a bad wildfire season throughout the West. Homes built in the wild land urban interface should use non-combustable materials and keep a wide defensive perimeter.
Build a concrete bunker. No worries.
* good . It's going to a great fire season. Idiots in abundance!
But they won't.
It's that sense of entitlement some Dummies become accustomed to.
Once they're on their own in disaster conditions, they flip out and go stupid.
The old folks found burned, 50 ft from their house.
People caught in cars...because there was the ONE LAST THING they had to grab.
An old story that will know, no end from here on out.
Seems to be a lot of animosity towards this assumed wealthy community. I’m sure they have the same feelings about loosing their home as anyone else. Don’t assume a person is wealthy based on their address. They may have a higher salary & be in debt up to their butts too.
Those are big house bruh
If your not making like 250k a year you can't afford to live there. So those people are better off then most of the world
@@patcris8923 250K nope your way off
@@patcris8923 250K is not enough to live in these areas.
More like 1M for starters.
@@mati261000 I was assuming it was more then that but I didn't want to over bid. With it being that much tho I care some how even less about their houses
Oh no all those poor millionaires
Workers Revolution!!!
1:41 What is it exactly that they keep “sending back to you?”
Impeach Biden
It’s actually nice seeing rich people struggling for once. Great job God!
I bet you smoke weed!
Envy is a deadly sin.
I don’t really care…do you?
No they work hard, have insurance, have a reserve, and will rebuild better than ever!
O these poor rich families who bought a house with a nice view. Now get even richer with there insurance clames
don't hate the player, hate the game!
Damn Jewish space lasers!
More SaPiek butthurt 😆
Money couldn't buy them better fate? 😬
Nope money doesn't buy happiness, but it will allow them to rebuild.
Hmmmm , smells funny !
The ones that dident burn probably had fire sprinkles installed!!!!
they're all rich though so..
they will recover because they are smart and resilient.