Chunky has been on a really great level recently, like we all know that leo is not in his prime anymore but still playing this good against him with DK is really nice
@@amerstain well the meta has changed a lot and many new players are fighting the top spot if you compare it to a couple years ago when Leo was dominating maybe it's just leo not fully adopting to the current way the game is played but he's been practicing a lot lately so I'm really looking forward to his results in the next months
MKLeo is playing at his best, he’s just not winning as much anymore because others are better. Not in his prime would be if he were to play against his past self and loose.
Love how much DK has been improving in the meta got into many arguments with people about DKs viability I wanna thank Chunky for taking the time to maximize this characters potential discovering an oos option for DK is huge. That alone had boosted DK.
A lot of these high level matches make me feel either juggling is dead, or players are too afraid to even try it at high level. I'm seeing most of these players get away with aerials and aggressive landings, and players with disjoint characters (i.e MKLeo and Shadic) just let them off for free, and don't even try doing frametraps. And this should be especially true for someone as big as DK, or characters with a horrible disadvantage, like Kazuya.
Top level players are just good and they know how to counter everything. It's a chess match with them. That's it they're just good so their gameplay is going to look far different on what they're trying to punish.
@@lokks2130 I did add him because he played an entire set against Riddles letting him off for free, and it wasn't until the invitational afterwards (the one EE hosted) that he was actually starting to do it and destroy him for it. People respect them too much, even when they have the clear advantage.
The DK that beat Sparg0 offline was Rarikkusu from Japan at Delta #8, but I don't know if Chunky has beaten Sparg0 online. The notorious and recent one was, however, Rarikkusu, and he also 3-stocked Leo's byleth (Leo did win the set with Joker though).
I don’t see any issue here. Chunky is an extremely talented player who is also using DK on WiFi. Not like it’s embarrassing for Leo to be losing games. He won a lot with Joker. And Leo didn’t want to play Byleth in the first place. He said he was done with Byleth and only did it because Chunky requested it.
Bro MIGHT be worse than marss now lol Edit; I’m saying Leos peak is over. Players like light and sonix found their peak not too long ago. They play way better but its not hard to see leos skill isnt what it used to be.
His Byleth has fallen off but that’s okay bc he’s been grinding Joker / Aegis on stream a lot recently and those 2 have gotten sm better. He’s also been going to weeklies. He said himself that he’s been grinding a lot and feels like he’s gotten much better
Chunky has been on a really great level recently, like we all know that leo is not in his prime anymore but still playing this good against him with DK is really nice
And we're talking about DK vs Leo's Byleth, that used to be hell on earth for chunky
Why isn't he on his prime anymore? Is it just his gameplay that has been off or has it been like this for a long time?
@@amerstain well the meta has changed a lot and many new players are fighting the top spot if you compare it to a couple years ago when Leo was dominating maybe it's just leo not fully adopting to the current way the game is played but he's been practicing a lot lately so I'm really looking forward to his results in the next months
MKLeo is playing at his best, he’s just not winning as much anymore because others are better. Not in his prime would be if he were to play against his past self and loose.
how did Leo avoid like every ding dong?
Love how much DK has been improving in the meta got into many arguments with people about DKs viability I wanna thank Chunky for taking the time to maximize this characters potential discovering an oos option for DK is huge. That alone had boosted DK.
A lot of these high level matches make me feel either juggling is dead, or players are too afraid to even try it at high level. I'm seeing most of these players get away with aerials and aggressive landings, and players with disjoint characters (i.e MKLeo and Shadic) just let them off for free, and don't even try doing frametraps. And this should be especially true for someone as big as DK, or characters with a horrible disadvantage, like Kazuya.
It’s because the risk and reward against Steve, Kazuya, and DK is super high.
Leo's advantage state could be better, but lumping Shadic in there and accusing him of "not trying frametraps" is funny as shit.
Top level players are just good and they know how to counter everything. It's a chess match with them. That's it they're just good so their gameplay is going to look far different on what they're trying to punish.
@@dewdesi This too. People actually don't understand that Smash is mostly about mindgames the more you rise up.
@@lokks2130 I did add him because he played an entire set against Riddles letting him off for free, and it wasn't until the invitational afterwards (the one EE hosted) that he was actually starting to do it and destroy him for it. People respect them too much, even when they have the clear advantage.
This is the dk that beat sparg0, so I'm not surprised tbh
nope lol
The DK that beat Sparg0 offline was Rarikkusu from Japan at Delta #8, but I don't know if Chunky has beaten Sparg0 online. The notorious and recent one was, however, Rarikkusu, and he also 3-stocked Leo's byleth (Leo did win the set with Joker though).
@@AlexArvizu-pt7kj he did beat spargo during coinbox
@@orion9603 That's awesome, I love DK
DK beats cloud anyways
That last stock was brutal!
That was a great sets! Thanks for posting.
Damn leo losing to mid tiers now 😢😂
Bro that is sad 😭 I love mkleo but bro needs to stop being too safe
Don’t you get it our hero has fallen.. the smash community caught up and MK has less motivation since he’s done everything in the space
I don’t see any issue here. Chunky is an extremely talented player who is also using DK on WiFi.
Not like it’s embarrassing for Leo to be losing games. He won a lot with Joker. And Leo didn’t want to play Byleth in the first place. He said he was done with Byleth and only did it because Chunky requested it.
That literally cost him the set agaisnt Snow in Japan. ):
Me duelen los ojos ver al mejor jugador de la historia de smash perder así
Los mejores (samsora, Light, marss y leo) no son para siempre, solo esperemos que spargo y big d nos salven.
@@migelangeldejesusquinterog4584 Marss sigue siendo bueno pero si Sparg0 creo ha ganado más grand finals
it is so obvious Leo's Byleth is unused recently. I love Chunky, but holy why is he living to 160 in a minus 2 mu 😭
Leo now loses to everyone
you talk like chunky is any random guy, he beat spargo and 3-0 to light with DK lol
He needs his main
Bruh Leo refuses to down air edgegaurd wtf
Bro MIGHT be worse than marss now lol
Edit; I’m saying Leos peak is over. Players like light and sonix found their peak not too long ago. They play way better but its not hard to see leos skill isnt what it used to be.
His Byleth has fallen off but that’s okay bc he’s been grinding Joker / Aegis on stream a lot recently and those 2 have gotten sm better. He’s also been going to weeklies. He said himself that he’s been grinding a lot and feels like he’s gotten much better
Don’t downplay, Chunky is just good, he 3-0d Light at momocon too
Chunky has also greatly improved as a player. He got top 8 at Momocon I think, but top 8 at a major for sure
why did u choose marss as a comparison lol
out of all the people the dude who barely enters and has objectively worse results than Leo when he does
Also light is not probably in his prime on this moment, specially with the sonic and Steve threat.