DIY Concrete Countertops // OUTDOOR KITCHEN COUNTERTOP

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  • Опубликовано: 27 дек 2024

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  • @seejanedrill
    @seejanedrill 4 года назад +20

    Brent, I commend you. This video was very well done and detailed. I believe anyone watching this how-to-video and attempting to do their own counter-top will have similar results. Nicely done!

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад

      Thank so much Leah. I greatly appreciate your kind words and receiving comments like this from someone I truly respect means a lot :)

    • @capetowninfo6935
      @capetowninfo6935 3 года назад +1

      @@BYOTools Me as a girl, I am going to try it:)

    • @mvasquez5249
      @mvasquez5249 6 месяцев назад

      ruclips.net/user/shortsa_UgXzRM30Q?si=q2wSZfiHpx6U0iZW

  • @alisonstanfield7158
    @alisonstanfield7158 Год назад +2

    This is an amazing tutorial! Thank you for taking the time to help those of us who are a bit clueless.

  • @WillPemble
    @WillPemble 2 месяца назад

    Dude, that is absolutely beautiful! Thanks for sharing the imperfections and the "character" along the way. Mr. Wolf would be proud ;)

  • @mikedrop4421
    @mikedrop4421 3 года назад +4

    Another trick to help get the concrete to settle down in that I've done is of you take a Sawzall blade and grind the teeth off then screw a block of wood to the blade you can then use that contraption in your Sawzall and lay the wood on top of the concrete and vibrate from the top to force concrete down. Then just add more concrete to fill the form back up. Works in a pinch.

  • @detroitdiy
    @detroitdiy 4 года назад +3

    Nice job Brent, I have used some of the indoor sealer and shine from countertop solutions with amazing results. Made my own and my daughters countertops. Next three videos I post will be her kitchen. Thanks again for a great video.

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад

      Great to hear Jim and thanks so much for watching. I'll have to check out those videos of yours once their posted.

  • @PedoBearExists
    @PedoBearExists 4 года назад +1

    Been layin concrete for about 35 years in 2018 thankfully retired from busness but lates a lot of it in my time glad i’m out of it however gotta say great video great job thanks, -clayton

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад +1

      Great to hear Clayton and thanks so much for watching. Glad I didn’t disappoint a true pro.

  • @flyaway644
    @flyaway644 4 месяца назад

    I’m just here looking at Brent. But learned to do something I’ll probably never do in the process. It’s a win win. 😅😂❤

  • @alexnelson09
    @alexnelson09 2 года назад

    My biggest question about this project was how to figure in the finished dimension of both the fascia material (stone veneer in my case) and the finished concrete top so that the grill would play nicely with both finished surfaces. Your project was the most detailed I’ve seen on the subject and I really appreciate all the time you took. I’m still on the fence between pour in place counters or making a mold and then flipping the counter. I’m a gas log manufacturer so I have a lot of experience with mold making and concrete products but this is new territory for me!

    • @deeruckussolutions8772
      @deeruckussolutions8772 2 года назад

      Still no response 😂 don’t you love it

    • @alexnelson09
      @alexnelson09 2 года назад

      @@deeruckussolutions8772 yup. I went ahead with the project and the initial quality is fantastic. I would never advise anyone without being a true expert so I can’t yet speak to the longevity of the build. My best advice was to simply get all materials on hand first so you can get your best measurements in person. The manufacturers measurements were not accurate enough for me.

  • @jameschristopher3405
    @jameschristopher3405 2 года назад

    One of the best explained process for concrete countertop. Thanks!

  • @Mr.GucciClass1A
    @Mr.GucciClass1A 3 года назад +1

    😂 I like your style, commentary, and easy to hear voiceover. Great job. Just found your channel and just subscribed. Where have you been all my Covid RUclips watching year? 👍🏽

  • @mikeknapp5309
    @mikeknapp5309 4 года назад +2

    Great video look forward to trying it out myself on my first time project. also interested on the stucco finish on the backerboard

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад

      Great to hear mike and thanks so much for watching. Hope you subscribed

  • @eco_guardian
    @eco_guardian 4 года назад +1

    At 10:25 I noticed a significant bulge along the length of the form. I'm about to do a 10' counter with the same form kit and I'm trying to figure out how to avoid that.

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад

      Great catch Justin and that did happen but I just ground it down slightly with that diamond wheel I used and is linked in the bio of the video. To avoid I would make sure to get the mix runnier than I did and if you need to add a clamp You can always do that in the end. Thanks for watching and hope you subscribed.

    • @eco_guardian
      @eco_guardian 4 года назад

      @@BYOTools I certainly did subscribe. You seem to be doing all the things I have on my list to on our place. Thanks again.

  • @baseballunderthelights2373
    @baseballunderthelights2373 Год назад

    Great video. Would you happen to have an idea of what the budget for just the counter top was? Thanks - looking to do myself.

    • @mvasquez5249
      @mvasquez5249 6 месяцев назад

      ruclips.net/user/shortsa_UgXzRM30Q?si=q2wSZfiHpx6U0iZW

  • @hernandoolarte8801
    @hernandoolarte8801 6 месяцев назад

    Good job!!! Why you did not secured all the mesh?

  • @charlesg6583
    @charlesg6583 4 месяца назад

    How did you remove the z form against the vinyl siding? Looks like there is no clearance to remove it. Did you leave it there? If so, did you cover it up with concrete?

  • @TheeRustyCage
    @TheeRustyCage 2 года назад +1

    Looks awesome and you made this look really easy

  • @muzaaaaak
    @muzaaaaak 3 года назад +1

    Would you recommend using a concrete flow solution to help it self level when pouring?

  • @blecngzm3291
    @blecngzm3291 3 года назад +1

    This is very nice. My question is: the base upon which you pull the concrete mix, when the concrete drys up, do you remove it or you leave it there?

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  3 года назад

      Great question and you just leave the base in place. No way to get it out and it just adds support. Thanks for watching and hope you subscribed.

  • @therichieconway
    @therichieconway 4 года назад +4

    Great work! Always inspiring to watch! I just wish I had space to do this project!

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад

      Great to hear and thanks so much for watching and the continued support RR! Much appreciated.

  • @Ball_drips
    @Ball_drips 3 года назад

    Try using the front edge of the sander base against the form, it will hit much harder and work the air out much more efficiently. I have used a thick wet cast concrete and can work just about all the bubbles out

  • @kingkanoworldmedia4389
    @kingkanoworldmedia4389 4 года назад

    Question not use gravel in the mix? and... do you have a video on how to pour this for future tile work. I prefer to tile

  • @paulpwthuang
    @paulpwthuang 3 года назад

    I will add some black color it will look even better. Love your work.

  • @mackenziemill
    @mackenziemill 4 года назад +3

    love the barbecue cement table! I might just have to try a smaller version for a table. thank you

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад +1

      Great to hear Sandy and thanks so much for watching. Let me know how your own table top works out :)

  • @macsergio6170
    @macsergio6170 4 года назад +1

    Very good idea the vibration mode 👍👍👍

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад +1

      Great to hear and thanks for watching Mac. Hope you subscribed.

  • @regalia_usa
    @regalia_usa Год назад

    what did you use on the cement boards, micro topping?

  • @RyanTSmithAttorney
    @RyanTSmithAttorney 3 года назад

    Had me at the countertop, locked me in with Pulp Fiction. Well done!

  • @tbone45040
    @tbone45040 3 года назад

    excellent video!! i'm doing the same thing: a counter for my big green egg and small green egg. thanks for this great tutorial!!

  • @iowamatt2519
    @iowamatt2519 3 года назад +4

    Word of advice. Use portland cement to go over the entire top to fill in holes then sand it. Won't look like u didn't know what you're doing.

    • @derekharp2805
      @derekharp2805 Год назад

      You should make DIY videos. Sounds like you know better.

    • @iowamatt2519
      @iowamatt2519 Год назад

      @@derekharp2805 30 years in the business you get to know a few things. Videos might happen this year, just hard to find time

  • @justinmauldin5256
    @justinmauldin5256 4 года назад +3

    Underrated channel for sure!

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад +1

      We all start somewhere, right? haha. Thanks for the kind words and for watching. The channel is just going to get bigger and better from here

  • @tylerrichards6519
    @tylerrichards6519 2 года назад

    Great video! what is the length of this countertop?

  • @warpspeed9877
    @warpspeed9877 3 года назад

    There is a serious bow out on the long side at 10:40. Nothing that can't be sanded out of course...

  • @EnglishPoolandSnooker
    @EnglishPoolandSnooker 4 года назад +2

    The finished project looks amazing, and a great video. I’m thinking of trying something like this myself in the UK 🙂

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад

      Great to hear and thanks so much for watching. Can you get Countertop form and concrete mix products in the UK or are you going with a different product line? Thanks for the support and hope you subscribed.

    • @EnglishPoolandSnooker
      @EnglishPoolandSnooker 4 года назад

      BYOT Hi it’s something I’m thinking about at the moment so not at the stage yet for buying products. I don’t think I can buy the formers you used, hopefully I will find a different brand here. Yes I subscribed looking forward to getting some more ideas.

  • @Fabrischannel5
    @Fabrischannel5 4 года назад +2

    è un ottima idea il top in cemento per il barbecue,saluti da italia

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад

      bello sentire e grazie mille per la visione e il continuo supporto

  • @poohbear6806
    @poohbear6806 4 года назад +7

    Dude your channel is so addictive and satisfying that a person like me who doesn't even have drilling machine is watching how to make tables😂 amazing content man👍😁

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад +2

      Love hearing that PB. I do all of my own editing and take pride in producing high quality content. Thanks so much for watching and all the support. Greatly appreciated.

  • @winniewu8581
    @winniewu8581 3 года назад

    Hello Brent, I wonder if cement can be thinner like 1 inch? I have a countertop with tiles(tiles ages along the years), but I want to makeover it, can I pour 1-inch cement on top of it? Or any better idea how I can makeover the countertop without breaking it? Thanks!

  • @andyhoskins9852
    @andyhoskins9852 3 года назад

    I didn't see how the bbq was held in place. Did the counter top hold it?

  • @moetoofan7049
    @moetoofan7049 3 года назад

    What is the framing material? Galvanized or stainless steel? Are does pre-modes?

  • @cdfornal
    @cdfornal 2 года назад

    Serious question: what is the reason for concrete reinforcement in the middle of the slab? Isn't this where the tension/compression converge and there is no compression and tension? I would think reinforce near the top or bottom depending on tension or compression.
    Cool forming system

  • @bocfat
    @bocfat 2 года назад

    I have character! lol great job!

  • @bkdodge
    @bkdodge 3 года назад

    Hi, thanks for sharing your build. We like the color. Did you use any color additives to the mix or sealer? Is the final color represented in the video after 17:00?
    Thanks!

  • @lakeratatouille
    @lakeratatouille 4 года назад +2

    I've been looking into this form system for a while. Looks like a pretty sweet system. I'm a tile contractor and would love to expand my offerings. This might be the one. And I am wondering if the cost is less or comparable to granite, of course it's also what a customer may want no matter what.

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад +1

      Great to hear bud and thanks so much for watching. As for price the concrete is obviously much less then a solid surface but you also have to take into account the amount of time you are putting in compared to a set it and forget it with granite. Pretty comparable when it’s all said and done.

  • @esanchezp
    @esanchezp 3 года назад

    Not bad at all but, do you have a video as to how you did the framing of that countertop, I noticed you used some kind of metal. Is that correct?

  • @subseven949
    @subseven949 3 года назад

    would it be possible to pour epoxy over the concrete for a finish? would epoxy hold up in outdoor conditions?

  • @fronny
    @fronny 4 года назад +1

    What if I used self leveling concrete. What are your thoughts on that?

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад +1

      Good question Joe. In all honesty I don't know what would happen but self leveling products are normally very thin layers since they are so liquidy. Might have to try this out and let you know what i find out. Thanks for watching and the support Joe.

  • @williamtorres450
    @williamtorres450 4 года назад +1

    Nice job where do you order all the materials and how order the BBQ Grill station,

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад

      Great to hear William and thanks for watching. I have provided links for all of the products in the description of this video. Take a look and let me know if you have any questions.

  • @TheHackless
    @TheHackless 4 года назад +1

    the way you make video is awesome, you should get at least 500k subs

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад

      We all have to start somewhere, Right? Thanks for the kind words Norman and all the support. Lets hit 100K this year and see how long it takes to get to 500K. I bet it will take less time then getting to 100k.

  • @jeojedagil
    @jeojedagil 4 года назад +1

    You are adorable! Very inspiring and instructional.

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад +1

      Well I'll for sure take that as a complement Emilio haha. Great to hear and thanks so much for watching. Hope you subscribe.

    • @jeojedagil
      @jeojedagil 4 года назад

      @@BYOTools need to check if I can find those forms for the borders in Canada. What's the name of those?

  • @odessamama7
    @odessamama7 3 года назад

    How many 60lb bags did you use for this counter top. I assume it was 8’ by 2.5’ surface. Thanks

  • @331SVTCobra
    @331SVTCobra 3 года назад +1

    GLOVES!!
    Everything else is fine though. Nice vid.

  • @carlanthonyholmes2162
    @carlanthonyholmes2162 3 года назад

    What happened to sand cement ,aggregate and reinforcement with steel? Looks like I did mine the hard way.

  • @anthonybacon7073
    @anthonybacon7073 2 года назад

    Nice work. Looks great.

  • @mmarte1622
    @mmarte1622 4 года назад +1

    First thanks for the video... Looks great!! One question, three sides I noticed you had backer boards. These were stucco?

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад

      The backer board is just your standard cement board. Then the Ardex OVP is used in lue of stucco. Hope that makes sense Miguel and thanks so much for watching.

  • @jr.a4955
    @jr.a4955 2 года назад

    Where can u purchase the frame for the countertops?

  • @petethehandyman9185
    @petethehandyman9185 3 года назад

    Really nice work, cost more or less than granite?

  • @rickv5178
    @rickv5178 3 года назад

    Great video - not sure if you still monitor the comments or not, but I did have a very specific question about how you used the z countertop forms along the inside area of the grill cut out. You touched on it briefly in the video, but it wasn’t very clear. I’ll be doing mine this weekend using the same system - would it possible to get clarification? Did you use and modify the square edge (snap off) form or the pre-cast (non-snap off) form?

  • @NoRoads2AllRoads
    @NoRoads2AllRoads 4 года назад +2

    home depot carries a concrete brand that is pretty much almost pure liquid and it solidifies in 1-2 hours or so. I can see that working better here. There would be no need of screeding or floating at all

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад

      Interesting. I'll have to check that out. Thanks for the tip Salvador!

    • @odessamama7
      @odessamama7 3 года назад

      Do you know the brand?

  • @alexgonzalez7395
    @alexgonzalez7395 4 года назад +1

    How thick will the concrete counter be?

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад

      Approximately 3" thick. Thanks for watching Ramiro and hope you enjoyed the video.

  • @AFBoi120
    @AFBoi120 4 года назад +1

    Great video, Brent!

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад

      Great to hear Joe and thanks so much for watching. glad you enjoyed the video.

  • @bmellado1
    @bmellado1 2 года назад

    Hello, great video! I’ve ordered the countertop forms you’ve linked. Looks like it’ll save a lot of time.
    A have a question, you mentioned in a previous comment that you used Airtex ovp for the walls. Did you reinforce it with any kind of mesh?

  • @tsepondlovu1981
    @tsepondlovu1981 4 года назад +2

    I loved the closing song(Proudly South African) and of coz the Tutorial

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад

      Great to hear Tsepo and I feel that song is a perfect way to end my videos. Thanks so much for watching and hope you subscribed.

    • @wadeholden1051
      @wadeholden1051 3 года назад

      Such a catchy song, what's the song?

    • @tsepondlovu1981
      @tsepondlovu1981 3 года назад

      @@wadeholden1051 Iphathaphatha Mariam Makeba

  • @donovanbrown5656
    @donovanbrown5656 4 года назад +1

    Ur home is so beautiful great job

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад +1

      My home is good looking but this house is better haha! This is my friends house I did the project for. Thanks so much for watching and glad you like the video.

    • @donovanbrown5656
      @donovanbrown5656 4 года назад

      BYOT with all the stuff I seen u do to ur home it must be very nice 👍

  • @southswellsd
    @southswellsd Год назад

    Well Done, Dude

  • @wayneguy6043
    @wayneguy6043 3 года назад

    Is it Mr. and Mr. BYOT?

  • @pablo290389
    @pablo290389 3 года назад

    Beautifull Work

  • @bertjacobson9550
    @bertjacobson9550 3 года назад

    Nice job love it 👍

  • @paulusher3278
    @paulusher3278 2 года назад

    looks great

  • @armandootero6311
    @armandootero6311 4 года назад

    How did you manage to rip the form/strip up against the house.

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад

      There is still a couple of inches from the house to the countertop so I was able to bend it off still. Thanks for watching Armando and hope you enjoyed the video.

  • @terryeckmeier7027
    @terryeckmeier7027 4 года назад

    I think putting that much mix in one spot is the primary culprit for the mesh sinking so much.

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад

      Good note Terry and thanks for mentioning it. Hope you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching.

  • @rawalz1
    @rawalz1 4 года назад +1

    Great video. Thanks for sharing

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад

      Great to hear and thanks for watching RWA. Greatly appreciated.

  • @pattig717
    @pattig717 4 года назад +1

    Nice job!!

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад

      Great to hear! Thanks so much for watching ;)

  • @28601andrew
    @28601andrew 4 года назад +1

    How much did all the parts cost (concrete, doors etc...)?

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад

      Everything accounted for will probably add up to around $6k Andrew. Thanks for watching and hope you enjoyed the video.

  • @brassjc
    @brassjc 8 месяцев назад

    Great video, thank you. (Pretty sure it’s Pulp Fiction)

  • @unikogolf8179
    @unikogolf8179 3 года назад

    Awesome💪👍

  • @BigPaulie1
    @BigPaulie1 4 года назад +1

    Someone may have got there first, but your quote is from Pulp Fiction. Harvey Keitel I think it was.

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад

      Well done Paul! Only one other person mentioned it so I'm glad you spoke up. Love that movie. Thanks for watching and hope you enjoyed the video.

  • @kbent88
    @kbent88 3 года назад +1

    That back side looks very crooked. The weight of the concrete bowed out the plastic form. 10:42 =/

  • @charolettwills4358
    @charolettwills4358 3 года назад

    I love it

  • @doginu
    @doginu Год назад +5

    That form costs more than what I spent on my hole countertop....

  • @ptolemyauletesxii8642
    @ptolemyauletesxii8642 Год назад

    Help! I hump harp seals!

  • @jillhoboken5974
    @jillhoboken5974 2 года назад

    Pulp Fiction reference…….nice

  • @KS-yj1px
    @KS-yj1px 4 года назад

    Great video, great finish.
    How many hours all up? How many did you bill? 🤣

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад +1

      Haha! Both very good questions Paul LOL! All together it took around 40 hours total. Thanks so much for watching and glad you enjoyed the video.

  • @jon8864
    @jon8864 4 года назад

    4:48 "structuabilty"?

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад

      Don't tell me this is the first time you've heard the word structurability.....lol! Words are hard sometimes Jonathan haha but thanks for watching and hope you enjoyed the video.

  • @cjg342
    @cjg342 4 года назад +1

    Looks amazing...what is Pulp fiction too haha

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад +1

      Only one of the BEST Movies ever made!!! HaHa! If you haven't seen it, check it out. Thanks so much for watching Chris, especially since I know you watched the whole thing :)

  • @thelazycat_
    @thelazycat_ 3 года назад

    The support was not sufficient. When you look at the side it is bending outwards

  • @JesseLA2IE
    @JesseLA2IE 4 года назад +1

    Way easier, I did mine of wood frame. I bit harder but got it done...

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад

      Ya that ledge system really helps. Great to hear you tackled it yourself Jesse. Thanks for watching and hope you enjoyed the video.

  • @Unctahdew
    @Unctahdew 3 года назад +1

    Instead of cutting those edges why not just put a 1 1/8" piece of square stock in your form before you pour the concrete?

  • @jodyrolandconstruction6577
    @jodyrolandconstruction6577 4 года назад +1

    Those hanging plants are going to catch hell from the grill. 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад

      They are high but not that high haha! We will see. Thanks for watching Jody and hope you enjoyed the video.

    • @jodyrolandconstruction6577
      @jodyrolandconstruction6577 4 года назад

      BYOT yeah man I enjoyed it. Just messing with you anyway. Have a great day 👍🏻

  • @brianinsko5176
    @brianinsko5176 2 месяца назад

    no slurry? interesting...

  • @brettirwin2
    @brettirwin2 3 года назад

    The movie was Oxford Blues

  • @DrivingWithJake
    @DrivingWithJake 4 года назад +1

    Think just a little more wet and it would have been a bit less work for you.
    Turned out great however! :)

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад

      Completely agree and thanks so much for watching Jake. I'll remember MORE water next time haha. Hope you subscribe.

  • @iamdjsluggo
    @iamdjsluggo 4 года назад

    Dope!

  • @kodeycarlisle5154
    @kodeycarlisle5154 Год назад

    Diesel fuel and wood forms never let me down 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @pablomax3045
    @pablomax3045 4 года назад +2

    Looks nice, but those plastic forms are stupid expensive.

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад

      They aren't cheap thats for sure haha. They really are worth the money though in my opinion. Thanks for watching and hope you enjoyed the video.

  • @aaronpage1822
    @aaronpage1822 3 года назад

    Look how bowed out that back edge is.

  • @britonjohnny
    @britonjohnny 3 года назад +1

    I believe the last quote u said is from the movie "Pulp Fiction"

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  3 года назад

      Well done for knowing your pulp fiction buddy. Thanks so much for watching and hope you enjoy the video

  • @gabbar5758
    @gabbar5758 3 года назад

    Why is craftsmanship just way better in America that the UK..?

  • @المخترعاليمني-غ3ف
    @المخترعاليمني-غ3ف 4 года назад

    You can put an epoxy on it

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад +1

      You can but you don't want to put epoxy on something that is outdoors normally. It yellows. Thanks for watching and hope you enjoyed the video.

  • @celestialdream49
    @celestialdream49 4 года назад +1

    Pulp Fiction

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад

      Well done! You must be a fan. Thanks for watching the WHOLE video.

    • @bamacheats
      @bamacheats 4 года назад

      Would adding a plasticizer help with the pour and bubble release?

  • @TexasRanchu
    @TexasRanchu 4 года назад

    Girl is tough, she can help you lift a grill!!! Thats what i look for in a women.

  • @paulsven7923
    @paulsven7923 4 года назад +1

    The front edge was not very straight

    • @BYOTools
      @BYOTools  4 года назад

      Front edge was just fine. The back edge was the one out of wack that I had to fix haha! Thanks for watching.

  • @yaxelcastaneda5993
    @yaxelcastaneda5993 3 года назад

    Why not just rent a small concrete vibrator? Why not make the concrete more fluid by adding an extra quart of water?