Thank you so much for posting this documentary. My grandmother traveled the Oregon trail by covered wagon from Missouri when she was age 4. I loved hearing my great-grandmother tell stories about this journey which led them to settle in Idaho. My grandmother met and married my grandfather and they lived in Grangeville, Idaho. My dad was born in 1906...he had an older and younger sister. Several years later they relocated here in So. CA.where my grandfather had a citrus and chicken ranch. I have my grandmother's child size rocking chair that she brought with her from Missouri and across the trail. I also have a quilt and my great-grandmother's woven straw fan which were part of the possessions they carried in their wagon. A blessing to be part of this history. Growing up my dad liked to vacation in Idaho, teach me the history of Lewis & Clark and explore the many rivers of that area. Over the last years I have taken road trips along the trail from Idaho to Oregon and enjoyed the interpretive centers that take us back to those historical days in American history.
The courage , determination, presperation n sheer Strength to just keep on going day after day and mile after mile was a superhuman Achievement! God Bless those Tired Souls! You had to have a Lot of Heart n passion for your own family’s future. The sacrifices were immense n almost impossible.
My great great-grandfather came through Ellis Island from Germany. And established one of the largest farm and ranch operations in central Oregon. The history I have in my pocket is priceless. I have mercantile receipts for dry goods from 1889 . One stop on the journey that was not mentioned on the way was farewell bend. That's where a lot of people had to make a decision of life and death. The snake river was not a nice ride back then.
First off, I'm old, and in the very early 1960's I had the opportunity to visit with the great, great grandmother of our neighbor kids. She was 102 or 103 years old and still mentally sharp. She told us about being on the Oregon Trail as a youngster. Up until then I'd only heard about it from TV shows like Wagon Train.
This is actually one of the most detailed documentary of The Oregon Trail Pioneers that ive ever seen. They did a good job of explaining how they lived and what traveling might have really been like. What a crazy trip it must have been knowing you were more than likely not going to be the same sized family when you finally completed the trip. And its amazing how the entire family shared the burden from the small children all the way up to the parents and even grandparents in some occasions.
My third great-grandparents both died along the Oregon trail. My gr-grandfather Jabez died not too long after they set out. His wife Susannah buried him and kept going with their two teenage sons. They were both part of families who had been moving West since the early days of the colonies and seem to have been possessed by wanderlust because this was not the first time they had ventured forward to settle in the unsettled West. Susannah and her sons made it to Oregon but tragically Susannah was stricken by illness just after they had crossed into Oregon. She was buried somewhere near present-day Baker Oregon. Her two sons buried her and kept going on, and made good lives for themselves there.
My German family made this trip, what a tough group. 🤔 One brother thought the trip was crazy & he boarded a ship, going around the horn, which was also dangerous. 🙄 Everyone made it! ☺
Bad ass . My sisters and mom did a 4 day trip onthe Oregon treal here in Wyoming. My hole family did pony express re rides for 6 years . O man the fun . I still drive that trail . To Atlantic city Wyoming. Blessings to the hardness of our families that went west. Blessings to you all that did it again . Blessings
You think Red Steagall shared this? This video is more than 30 years old. He did the narration in the early 90s when this documentary was made, long before RUclips existed. It was most likely made for public television or the national park service.
My ancestors travelled on the Trail. I recently travelled through Wyoming and visited the Independence Rock. The Great Divide Basin is a bleak region that I couldn’t imagine travelling through by wagon or by walking.
My great-great grandfather was born in the Nebraska Territory on the trail. His mother was an Irish immigrant pregnant with him when they left Missouri. His father, as well as grandfather and uncles, were immigrants from England. Settled in Oregon in the Coquille River Valley. Tough, tough people.
4:10 as a native Oregonian, born in the Willamette Valley, I absolutely WINCED when I heard the narrator mangle the word Willamette.😱😱😱😱 Not anybody that doesn’t live out here cares but the valley everybody was trying to get to it’s pronounced, wil-LAM-eht.
My great great grandparents made this trip with my great grandfather as a young boy. I have gg grandmother's diary. The correct pronunciation of the Willamette valley is "will am ette", no long e at end.
Martin Baker Gay family 1852, settled Spencer Mountain south of Eugene, Oregon 1853. One daughter, Martha Gay, kept a diary that was later published as 'One Woman's West.' 😊
Some men were smart enough to fallow the W T s and collect the discarded things and sell them back to the travelers after they reached their destination ❤😮
One mile an hour on average. Wow, the ingrown toenails and blisters must have been the extreme problem back then. I feel bad for the natives as well as the beast of burdens. Heck, it all sounds too demanding at times.
God, thank you for healing the nations, tribes, tongues and peoples from sins. Generations of sins. Thank you for history and thank you that you make all things work together for the good for those who love you and have been called according to your good purpose and your good will and true love in Jesus name, I pray for Christians today and consider it a miracle to have had the gospel spread through times such as the dark ages and the renaissance ages and frontier and pioneer days! What a victory!!! Thank you. 🌈I pray for people to enjoy history and love to find you there, God, In Jesus name. Amen 🙏 You are a great and loving God. 🤍
It was a brutal trip, filled with back-breaking work, danger, and sorrow. The trail was a part of what ended the Indians and their culture, but for the immigrant farmers, as long as they made it to their final destination, they were assured of a new beginning.
I didn't believe it when they said a body is buried every eighty yards then i did some math if one in ten died out of half a million that's fifty thousand then divide that by how long the trail is (2,170 miles converted to yards) then divide the yards by fifty thousand and the answer i got was seventy six so it is even less than eighty yards if i did my math right. But I'm not sure i did poorly in math class.
They were conservative republican pioneers. They were the original Maga. Only the cows had not been discovered and the tremendous chickens had not been invented, so they were just MA …..make America . They were the number one pioneers of all pioneers. Huge pioneers !
In the uk when horse and carts were the only form of travel they averaged about 20 miles per day which a team would be changed every 10 miles, resulting in some turnpike,s owners having 12 hundred horses to keep up with the demand where horses were kept
"Will-AM-et". It's not a suburb of Chicago, but a river in western Oregon. But that's okay, at least we don't have to hear "ARE-uh-gone". Went to a concert in Portland recently and the nice man said, so great to be back here in ARE-uh-gone. Could have heard a pin drop.
I doubt they boiled very much water unless there was word of bad water. 😮 As kids we drank out cricks shared with cows and wildlife south of Reno. On our 40 acres we eventually captured a spring and piped the water about 600 feet (gravity) to our trailer. We never treated it back in the 50s and 60s.
Will-LAMB-it is how you pronounce Willamette, with the emphasis on the second syllable. I'm always sprung if they pronounce Oregon correctly! 😂 It's not pronounced Or-ee-GONE. We didn't go anywhere! It's pronounced Or-ee-gun. OK. I feel better after that rant! 😊
Exactly! Had to scroll a long way through the comments before finding that being touched on. Regardless of the fact the British already retained "ownership" of the land & ended up "freely" GIVING it (Oregon) to the AMERICAN IMMIGRANTS SQUATTING all over their land because no matter what, they just kept coming ... and coming ... and coming ... and ..... However, American History books for the most part don't mention much about that though.
And what's your point ? .Read some history books .Every piece of land on this earth up until modern times has been conquered and re conquered ( if you can use that word , the Spanish called it Reconquista ) by different people .That's what caused wars .Are you willing to give up your piece of land ? 🎉
the Great Plains; the Geat American Desert; Oregon Trail; America's (Manifest) Destiny; Oh God our father as you sit up high and look down on us mortals, forgive us for our; things of that nature (king); things (stuffs) like that; that sort (kind) of things; to harness (saddle hitch up) the horses; to circle up the wagons; wagons are circled; to form the circle; the head of the household (family);
well it was at least a 6-month trip many people died on the way and there were mountains in deserts very wide rivers to cross... horses and mules in animals died.. so here's a question ❓ why didn't you have people going in a horse caravan traveling only by horses and no wagons.. they could have made the trip in two months maybe 20 to 30 miles a day just have a horse for each adult a child can ride behind the adult two on a horse.. and have two pack horses get most of your food from the land Buffalo dear elk birds fish crossing the mountains the deserts the wide Rivers what have been easy without wagons.... that is why so many died... many women children were too weak fore such a long 6-month journey under those conditions...
30 or 40mi a day? The horses would have died early on at that pace. That's why they used oxen that are more endurable and still some oxen died on the way. Before you make assumtions you need to educate yourself.
Wagons carried: Small children, cooking utensils, food supplies (salt, flour, coffee, etc.), extra clothing, tools, etc. When they arrived at their destination they had to have everything they needed to build a home. Imagine carrying a Dutch oven, shovel, axe, hatchet, etc. on a horse or pack mule.
My great, great grandparents did it. I grew up hearing stories about how they survived the trail.
how did they deal with Rattlesnakes on the open prairie?
Thank you so much for posting this documentary.
My grandmother traveled the Oregon trail by covered wagon from Missouri when she was age 4.
I loved hearing my great-grandmother tell stories about this journey which led them to settle in Idaho. My grandmother met and married my grandfather and they lived in Grangeville, Idaho. My dad was born in 1906...he had an older and younger sister. Several years later they relocated here in So. CA.where my grandfather had a citrus and chicken ranch. I have my grandmother's child size rocking chair that she brought with her from Missouri and across the trail. I also have a quilt and my great-grandmother's woven straw fan which were part of the possessions they carried in their wagon. A blessing to be part of this history. Growing up my dad liked to vacation in Idaho, teach me the history of Lewis & Clark and explore the many rivers of that area. Over the last years I have taken road trips along the trail from Idaho to Oregon and enjoyed the interpretive centers that take us back to those historical days in American history.
The courage , determination, presperation n sheer Strength to just keep on going day after day and mile after mile was a superhuman Achievement! God Bless those Tired Souls! You had to have a Lot of Heart n passion for your own family’s future. The sacrifices were immense n almost impossible.
My great great-grandfather came through Ellis Island from Germany. And established one of the largest farm and ranch operations in central Oregon. The history I have in my pocket is priceless. I have mercantile receipts for dry goods from 1889 . One stop on the journey that was not mentioned on the way was farewell bend. That's where a lot of people had to make a decision of life and death. The snake river was not a nice ride back then.
As a history buff, I dearly loved watching this amazing program!🙏❤💙 God Bless the families who immigrated to America and to the West!
Unbelievably fascinating
First off, I'm old, and in the very early 1960's I had the opportunity to visit with the great, great grandmother of our neighbor kids. She was 102 or 103 years old and still mentally sharp. She told us about being on the Oregon Trail as a youngster. Up until then I'd only heard about it from TV shows like Wagon Train.
This is actually one of the most detailed documentary of The Oregon Trail Pioneers that ive ever seen. They did a good job of explaining how they lived and what traveling might have really been like. What a crazy trip it must have been knowing you were more than likely not going to be the same sized family when you finally completed the trip. And its amazing how the entire family shared the burden from the small children all the way up to the parents and even grandparents in some occasions.
Facts
My third great-grandparents both died along the Oregon trail. My gr-grandfather Jabez died not too long after they set out. His wife Susannah buried him and kept going with their two teenage sons. They were both part of families who had been moving West since the early days of the colonies and seem to have been possessed by wanderlust because this was not the first time they had ventured forward to settle in the unsettled West. Susannah and her sons made it to Oregon but tragically Susannah was stricken by illness just after they had crossed into Oregon. She was buried somewhere near present-day Baker Oregon. Her two sons buried her and kept going on, and made good lives for themselves there.
Can anyone say what year this doc was produced?
@@spikespa5208it says 1994 at the end
@@123canadagirl Thank you.
Wonderful documentary! I've often wondered what it must of been like for them....thank you!
Amazing!!!!! Thank you for sharing your time, your adventure, and your dream. Information was very educational. Thank you
We will never see the likes of these tough pioneers ever again.
One of my favorite shows is Wagon Train.
What a beautiful story thank you for sharing it
This video footage is pretty old but Morris and his family still haul people in his wagons. Cool guy!
Thank You, this was very informative and a great story.
Nice doc! I enjoyed playing Oregon Trail on my school Apple computer as a kid!
My German family made this trip, what a tough group. 🤔 One brother thought the trip was crazy & he boarded a ship, going around the horn, which was also dangerous. 🙄 Everyone made it! ☺
What an excellent well researched documentary
Bad ass . My sisters and mom did a 4 day trip onthe Oregon treal here in Wyoming. My hole family did pony express re rides for 6 years . O man the fun . I still drive that trail . To Atlantic city Wyoming. Blessings to the hardness of our families that went west. Blessings to you all that did it again . Blessings
.... ??? curious . . . who was the hole in your family ??
@toddrodgers5108 Thank you. I had never heard of Atlantic City Wyoming before.
What a great documentary.
Fascinating documentary. Thanks for sharing. Take care and God Bless.
Love you RED, thank you for sharing.
You think Red Steagall shared this? This video is more than 30 years old. He did the narration in the early 90s when this documentary was made, long before RUclips existed.
It was most likely made for public television or the national park service.
My ancestors travelled on the Trail. I recently travelled through Wyoming and visited the Independence Rock. The Great Divide Basin is a bleak region that I couldn’t imagine travelling through by wagon or by walking.
Very enjoyable watch. Thanks@!
What amazing resilient people
My great-great grandfather was born in the Nebraska Territory on the trail. His mother was an Irish immigrant pregnant with him when they left Missouri. His father, as well as grandfather and uncles, were immigrants from England. Settled in Oregon in the Coquille River Valley. Tough, tough people.
I have an anvil that left Indiana with my dad’s great gpa, made a round trip on the Oregon trail.
Wow .. they were determined to make a good go of it / life they were amazing
thank you hope you bring more.
Very interesting! Thank you so much for sharing this beautiful and informative vid.
Greetings from the Netherlands 🇳🇱,
TW.
4:10 as a native Oregonian, born in the Willamette Valley, I absolutely WINCED when I heard the narrator mangle the word Willamette.😱😱😱😱
Not anybody that doesn’t live out here cares but the valley everybody was trying to get to it’s pronounced, wil-LAM-eht.
I agree, but I try not to criticize as I now live in the Southwest with many native American and spanish names! 😊
So what. It was very interesting.@@patrickrussell1888
I would love to see the Oregon trail.
Good voice of the narrator,could be easily understood.clear wispt voice.
Thanks.
Great video.
Best algorithm a man could ask for
Thanks. Good stuff 👍
Excellent documentary!
My great great grandparents made this trip with my great grandfather as a young boy. I have gg grandmother's diary. The correct pronunciation of the Willamette valley is "will am ette", no long e at end.
This is something...and you have a part of that history
My ggg drandad an Gramma made it to walla walla in 1858 , I'm a Washington pioneer certificate , they had 9 kids that came with them
It would be great if u made a reading video of the diary. Is the diary long?
Thank you for a great video that was very interesting.
Martin Baker Gay family 1852, settled Spencer Mountain south of Eugene, Oregon 1853. One daughter, Martha Gay, kept a diary that was later published as 'One Woman's West.' 😊
Brave people 👏
Brave and desperate. It's truly heartbreaking what they endured.
Awesome!!
I have hunted bisons with Buffalo Bill for over a decade. A great fellow he was.
Some men were smart enough to fallow the W T s and collect the discarded things and sell them back to the travelers after they reached their destination ❤😮
Thanks Red!!!❤❤❤❤
They were some tough people. I guess if a bad storm came up you just had to get what cover you could and eat it
I traveled the north-to-south Oregon Trail 22 years ago....the one from Pasadena, CA to Eugene, OR.................
Thank you
One mile an hour on average. Wow, the ingrown toenails and blisters must have been the extreme problem back then. I feel bad for the natives as well as the beast of burdens. Heck, it all sounds too demanding at times.
God, thank you for healing the nations, tribes, tongues and peoples from sins. Generations of sins. Thank you for history and thank you that you make all things work together for the good for those who love you and have been called according to your good purpose and your good will and true love in Jesus name, I pray for Christians today and consider it a miracle to have had the gospel spread through times such as the dark ages and the renaissance ages and frontier and pioneer days! What a victory!!! Thank you. 🌈I pray for people to enjoy history and love to find you there, God, In Jesus name. Amen 🙏 You are a great and loving God. 🤍
Ancestors traveled the Oregon trail in 1861! Settled into the Willamette Valley in 1871! Pleasant Hill area! Ta da!
It was a brutal trip, filled with back-breaking work, danger, and sorrow. The trail was a part of what ended the Indians and their culture, but for the immigrant farmers, as long as they made it to their final destination, they were assured of a new beginning.
Great video 😊
Excellent
All without Wifi 😊
😂
😊😊
😂😂😂 while dodging arrows and dysentery
What's wi-fi? Let's listen to 8-tracks 😊
I didn't believe it when they said a body is buried every eighty yards then i did some math if one in ten died out of half a million that's fifty thousand then divide that by how long the trail is (2,170 miles converted to yards) then divide the yards by fifty thousand and the answer i got was seventy six so it is even less than eighty yards if i did my math right. But I'm not sure i did poorly in math class.
It's still mainly ran by the British, NW Redcoat county
They were conservative republican pioneers. They were the original Maga. Only the cows had not been discovered and the tremendous chickens had not been invented, so they were just MA …..make America . They were the number one pioneers of all pioneers. Huge pioneers !
Not all were farmers. The one family were rich business owners.
YAAY America!
So the Pioneers & Farmers that come from South America are no different than these immigrants. No different, no better, nor worse.
Some maybe Pioneers and Farmers but the majority are coming to get all the free stuff they have been promised.
Not really .The newcomers are here to fleece our hard earned dollars .Nobody works, they are placed in 5 ☆ hotels, are given food vouchers and Iphones
I live in the Willamette Valley. It is pronounced Will AM it. The pioneers established the New Jerusalem, which is Salem - the capital of Oregon.
Amazing you'd think. They did it,, and look what happened.
In the uk when horse and carts were the only form of travel they averaged about 20 miles per day which a team would be changed every 10 miles, resulting in some turnpike,s owners having 12 hundred horses to keep up with the demand where horses were kept
non sequitur comment.
Those same sun flowers still bloom every year lol
"Will-AM-et". It's not a suburb of Chicago, but a river in western Oregon. But that's okay, at least we don't have to hear "ARE-uh-gone". Went to a concert in Portland recently and the nice man said, so great to be back here in ARE-uh-gone. Could have heard a pin drop.
Williamette like dammit.
I live near Tulalip and was at a concert there once and the singer said, “TO-LA-LIP, HOW WE DOIN???”
Will uh muht….LOL
Oragin
Pretentious much?
This documentary reminds me of nap times in grade school. 💤
Especially in Portland Walla Walla Pendleton
My family made that trip amazing that the pioneers didn't write about the buildings that were already here
What buildings
Maybe indiNs had. Built a. GOTHIC . CHURCH
I think I would of waited for the transcontinental railroad to go thru.
What’s the name of the song at the end credits?
Are the bodies still out there
Willa-met. No! Will-lamb-et
are these actual film clips of the oregon trail? or a movie/recreation?
Not to mention Bridges
I would never do this. They didn’t need to get rid of their things if they would have stayed home!
Hello, are black and white films authentic at the time of the 1830s and following years?
wow
My father's family ended up in Gopher Valley
No life out there today isn't much the same as then.
Why did the fake wagon train end in Independence? I thought it should have been Oregon City.
wilimet river? That was all I could stand
where did you get the footage !!
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@@casenumber001 where did he get the old wagons footage from !!
@@AmericanOldWestTales Ya, I'm with you! Where??
@@casenumber001 i am looking for the same answer, dear.
Most likely from a movie. Video cameras were still 70 years away.
I am wondering how the pioneers found enough clean water for drinking or anything else.
Quite often weren't able to. Thus , contributing to the 2000 mile long grave yard.
Ŵithout boiling it , they died ....
I am thinking they boiled the water fom rivers and creeks
I doubt they boiled very much water unless there was word of bad water. 😮 As kids we drank out cricks shared with cows and wildlife south of Reno. On our 40 acres we eventually captured a spring and piped the water about 600 feet (gravity) to our trailer. We never treated it back in the 50s and 60s.
@patrickrussell1888 there's lots of accounts of pioneers passing away from bad water on route . They had to boil it .
The Name Was Olney by Roscoe Sheller . Nathan Olney story .my 5 times granpa.
Who was taking the videos ?
You could smell them coming a mile away
And the goose agrees!
I see the narrator does not know the difference between a mule and a horse 😂
Will-LAMB-it is how you pronounce Willamette, with the emphasis on the second syllable. I'm always sprung if they pronounce Oregon correctly! 😂 It's not pronounced Or-ee-GONE. We didn't go anywhere! It's pronounced Or-ee-gun.
OK. I feel better after that rant! 😊
And the women walked the entire trail in petticoats and long dresses, and black boots. 😩
Where is the old footage from??
Appears to be from old (Hollywood?) silent films from the 1910s and 1920s.
Is Kent Rollins narrating this doc?
........... mean while , thousands of native Americans were already there and had been for thousands of years .
Exactly! Had to scroll a long way through the comments before finding that being touched on.
Regardless of the fact the British already retained "ownership" of the land & ended up "freely" GIVING it (Oregon) to the AMERICAN IMMIGRANTS SQUATTING all over their land because no matter what, they just kept coming ... and coming ... and coming ... and .....
However, American History books for the most part don't mention much about that though.
And what's your point ? .Read some history books .Every piece of land on this earth up until modern times has been conquered and re conquered ( if you can use that word , the Spanish called it Reconquista ) by different people .That's what caused wars .Are you willing to give up your piece of land ?
🎉
@jonproctor3739 i read it through American history books
the Great Plains; the Geat American Desert; Oregon Trail; America's (Manifest) Destiny; Oh God our father as you sit up high and look down on us mortals, forgive us for our; things of that nature (king); things (stuffs) like that; that sort (kind) of things; to harness (saddle hitch up) the horses; to circle up the wagons; wagons are circled; to form the circle; the head of the household (family);
Moving videos of the journey?
No. The first video recording didn’t come till some 70 years later.
@OregonMotorcycle lol I was like what the heck lol
The Big Trail....John Wayne..
👍🏻👏👏👏🍀🙏🏻🧙🏻♂️
Definitely born in the wrong century 😔
This documentary could never be made today. If it were made today it would be demonizing the Oregon Trail pioneers as racist monsters.
well it was at least a 6-month trip many people died on the way and there were mountains in deserts very wide rivers to cross... horses and mules in animals died.. so here's a question ❓ why didn't you have people going in a horse caravan traveling only by horses and no wagons.. they could have made the trip in two months maybe 20 to 30 miles a day just have a horse for each adult a child can ride behind the adult two on a horse.. and have two pack horses get most of your food from the land Buffalo dear elk birds fish crossing the mountains the deserts the wide Rivers what have been easy without wagons.... that is why so many died... many women children were too weak fore such a long 6-month journey under those conditions...
30 or 40mi a day? The horses would have died early on at that pace. That's why they used oxen that are more endurable and still some oxen died on the way. Before you make assumtions you need to educate yourself.
Even the Pony Express riders that took the mail across the country had to change horses every few miles or the horses would die of a heart attack.
Soon as the horse kicks off ya got free meat... Maybe even some glue...
Wagons carried: Small children, cooking utensils, food supplies (salt, flour, coffee, etc.), extra clothing, tools, etc. When they arrived at their destination they had to have everything they needed to build a home. Imagine carrying a Dutch oven, shovel, axe, hatchet, etc. on a horse or pack mule.
The narrater explained that people walking along a horse could not keep up with the horse. It was easier to keep up with slow moving oxen. Poor beasts
No different, except McDonald's every couple miles, improved roads, and on and on 🤣