During 3rd phase, I made the mistake of laughing out loud for about one second while the Series Gunny was doing a personnel inspection of our platoon. I thought for sure I was going to die that day.
Dude, almost immediately off the bus. We had to stand there with our arms out from our sides holding whatever luggage we brought (Not a problem for me, I had a heads up and brought only one change of civie clothes.) and the guy giving us instructions says "I don't want to hear a peep out of you! I don't care if you have friggin tourette syndrome and go UUUURGHUUTUUUUUURGH! I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT!!". That almost had me.
Got in in 2008 so you're not one of mine. The hazing you gave these tards PALES in comparison to the fleet, as someone who went from East Coast and got sent to 1/5
That's about how it was. I served 20 years in the Marine Corps and two combat tours in Vietnam. The first tour as a machine gunner (0331) in 1965-66 and the second as a Platoon commander (0369) in 1970-71. I retired after 20 years and had a 30 year career as a California police officer ( Marin County). What I learned in the Marine Corps has helped me all my life. I highly recommend it to anyone needing direction and wishing to learn self discipline . Tom Boyte GySgt. USMC, retired Bronze Star, Purple Heart
REST IN PEACE R. LEE ERMY ! 67 Year old Army Veteran here. My uncle was a marine drill instructor back then. When Uncle Charlie came to visit he didn't leave that at the base . My 17th birthday, i joined the Army 😮
I served in the Marine Corps and the answer to one man's question is, yes, Marine Corps basic training IS REALLY like that. I served in Korea and Vietnam, and I have to say that this movie was pretty realistic in many aspects.
Fun Fact: Bob Ross was a Drill Sargent in the Air Force, he said himself "I was Loud and Mean and make you clean the latrine" and he said he was done yelling and acting angry...
USArmy too. I was called hillbilly by my DI (WV born). He asked me if my Dad was my Mom's cousin. He asked me if our porch ever collapsed? I said no. He said I bet the 10 dogs were happy. It went on for 8 weeks, 8 long weeks... then on to Infantry 😢 1968 They were not trying to piss you off, they were trying to make you a killer (and save your life)
As a non military man it took me a while growing up to learn why all of this was done; and how necessary it is. So that in the thick of things you respond without having to think. Conditioning; getting you accustomed to being yelled at, insulted, being used to stress. Or as I’ve heard; getting you comfortable being uncomfortable so that during live operations you function at peak physical and psychological levels. Thats why they bury you with repetitiousness
Tough, but with a needed result. Marines were the toughest, and best fighters. My dad was an officer in the Army on D-Day, at Normandy. He never talked-about what happened after setting foot on the beach. Only on the ship, and after reaching Paris(after promoted to Captain). After the war, he was assigned to be in charge of a war bride ship from England, to New York. He said many of the women were sea-sick, mainly because they were pregnant. From New York to Dallas, he was to make sure they left the train at the right city. After the war, he joined the Army Reserves and retired Lt. Col.(while working as a high school principal, with Doctorate of Education). Always kept his oath to never discuss classified info about his military duty. I admire him for that.
My grandfather was there in Europe right after D-Day with the 63rd Infantry Division, 255th Regiment. He was among the first American platoons to stumble upon the concentration camps like Buchenwald. He drank to forget, then that was all he talked about.
the late R. Lee Ermy was a real USMC drill instructor and was originally just hired as a military advisor for Stanley Kubrick. But after he gave a demonstration how a Marine D.I. acts, Kubrick wanted him to play the role of Gunnery Sgt Hartman
Every time i see the Parris Island barracks it nearly brings a tear to my eye. So many great men walked those halls. So many more will follow. My unit in Camp Lejeune had a few things signed by him in our command post, and at Parris Island i qualified on the same range as R Lee Ermey. He died the year after i got out of the Marines. For the record, this is pretty accurate. I remember seeing a kid get dropkicked about 12ft for falling asleep against one of those white pillars (stancheons) in the squadbay 😂 Semper Fi, brothers 🤙
I went through Boot Camp in early 1974. In my opinion, this is pretty accurate. However, there were 4 Drill Instructors instead of one and this went on 24 hours a day for 13 weeks. Pretty intense both mentally and physically. This training help save my life in 2005 when I worked in Iraq as a civilian and was shot multiple times.
I'm a retired veteran. As I look back on my time in the military.... I understand the necessity of the what and why my drill instructors and other military instructors taught me. I can assure you that combat is far far worse.. then any drill instructor. War is not just an assault on the body... it's an assault on the soul. The wounds heal but the scars remain. I believe my instructors were preparing me for this.
For those that don’t know the Drill was R. Lee Ermey he was a member of the United States Marines & a former D.I., he was originally hired as a technical advisor not an actor. The actor that originally casted to play the DI was recast to a small part he is the helicopter door gunner seen later in the movie.
Don't know what's it like now but just the way it was in 1968. We recruits were thumped on a basis, as needed. We had one recruit in another platoon who attempted suicide. Didn’t succeed so our Drill Instructor Instructed on the correct way to commit suicide with our bayonets. Always instructing they were. The Marine Corps was on a war time footing. We were going to Vietnam where the fighting was violent and fierce. Anyone that froze or broke would put their mate's lives in extreme jeopardy. It was a strange time in America. Exactly one week after my unit's compound was half overrun (we beat them back and out), I was sitting in a community college classroom, briming with PTSD. Strange times indeed.
@@victormtz5018It was the times. No time for PC (wasn't invented yet - in fact the inventing generation hadn't arrived yet) or other soft landings. Just the way it was.
I went thru basic in 1987, of course it wasn't as harsh as the Vietnam era but one problem I had was stifling laughter. Drill instructors are some of the funniest people I've ever run across
R. Lee Ermey himself said that any DI would be a brilliant stand-up comedian. "Are you a peter puffer?" "Sir, no, sir!" "Bullsh*t! I bet you fart rainbows and shit Nutella, you pansy-ass sh*tbag!"
the biggest difference between the time you went to boot and the Vietnam era was you VOLUNTEERED, you were NOT drafted, drafted meant you had NO choice but go through boot if called or go to prison....
PT stands for Physical Training. And you would be surprised how painful it can get when forced to do for a long time. And yes, except for no longer being allowed to hit us, this was exactly what Parris Island was like in 1977. And yes it was designed to put pressure on every recruit. They had to know who couldn't handle it
“Is that you John Wayne? Is this me?” Line was a mistake. Joker was meant to do a southern accent and ask “is that you John Wayne” but the actor accidentally said the line in a John Wayne voice, acknowledging his mistake he added the “is this me” . Kubrick liked it and so it stayed
Gunny, appreciate your service. I served in the Army (Basic Ft Jackson, SC; AIT Ft Gordon, GA; PP Ft Gordon, GA), and while hitting was not allowed when I was in Basic during the late 80s, the DIs we had in our Company were free to use whatever expletive-filled language they chose to use. We had some real characters as our Company DIs, including one DI nicknamed "Little Hitler" (not sure how he got that nickname, as he was a short black muscular guy), and another DI nicknamed "Dust Master" because he made guys drop and do pushups so much that a lot of dust kicked up when he was near. So when I first watched this GREAT movie and saw the Gunnery Sgt depicted the the late, GREAT R. Lee Ermey, it immediately resonated with me because of the aforementioned characters I encountered during my time in Basic. I didn't have near the appreciation back then as I do now (chalk it up to youthful ignorance on my part), but I hope your retirement is (largely) agreeing with you, and may God be with you.
I had the privilege to meet him when I was 14. He was a very kind man very polite and supported the troops he was all about soldiers and veterans. He was a true hero through and through.
#1. Yes, it is like this, but without the hitting. They can do much worse without touching you. #2. What most fail to understand is that this is 24/7 for 3 months straight. I woke up and opened my eyes one night about 12 days in. Turned my head and looked right at my fellow recruits. As I went to look left, I was met with the stare of Drill Instructor Sgt Boone. He was 8 inches away, eye to eye, and whispered, "Go back to sleep recruit." I whispered "Aye Sir!" and closed my eyes. They are on you everywhere you go.
Once during basic training, the TI was testing the door guard to our dorm while we all stood at attention while packed butt-to-balls in the stairwell. She went off on him in a way similar to this and I couldn't help but let a laugh escape. She turned heel and glared at me so fast it must have broken the sound barrier! I tried to play it off like I sneezed, but she wasn't having it, and ordered us to do push-ups IN THE STAIRWELL! Ahhh, those were the days...
Lee Ermey was an actual Drill Instructor. He was a military advisor for the movie. Kubric went with Ermey for the role. From what I understand, that was his actual motivation al speech as a Drill. I believe this is the way it was before things got sensitive.
Graduated Dec1981 from University of Parris Island. This is the closest thing to what I lived. Infantry School and first unit was Pendleton CA, up and down mountains, ending my career at Lejuene. Infantry 12 years. Started a Private, finished as a Sergeant, E5. Was a PFC and a LCpl twice. Been to 37 countries, trained in 27, with combat action ribbons in two. Loved every minute of it. RIP GySgt R. Lee Ermy. Semper Fidelis Nothing like the smell of Napalm in the morning. Its the smell of victory.
Here's the thing that many don't realize: Gunny Ermy had guidelines on which "recruits" he could interact with, but the writers and director wanted the most realism out of what MCBRT during the 1960s was like. There was a lot that drill sergeants could do back then that they cannot do now, for sure, but Gunny Ermy improvised almost all of that monologue. The only parts that were scripted were the questions he had to ask the "recruits" and their responses. I always wondered how many takes that entire scene took. One other thing: My step-father was an Army doctor in Vietnam (Bien Hoa and Hue), and while he never had to take Basic Training as an officer, he was assigned to an Army unit (199th INF BDE (LT)) just outside Hue City, and he said he was fine for the first half of this movie, because he had nothing to compare it to, but when they got "in-country," it hit him as the realism was too close to how it actually was. To this day, he can't watch this movie all the way through. Semper Fi, Gunny! Heaven will now be squared away, USMC-style!
I was in Marine Corps from 1981-1986", first time away from home, it was the scariest and most defining point of my life!! I became a Coast Guard officer after Marine Corps, but it was the Marine Corps that defined me!! To this day the proudest time in my life was being called a Marine for the first time!! Semper FI for my Marine Corps brothers and Semper Paratus for my CG brothers!!
Full Metal Jacket, brilliant movie, R Lee Ermey was supposed to be in the background as a consultant in this movie, but got the part as he used to be a Drill Sergeant in the marines, and I couldn't imagine this movie without him.
This was Marine and Army boot camp reality in the 50's thru late 70's. GSgT. R.Lee Ermy was the perfect choice for the drill instructor in this. This was his world until he retired fron the Corps.
My father was in the Marines when John Kennedy was President. He says everyone in his unit got their ass kicked by their drill instructor except himself because he made sure he did everything exactly as he was told. He has told me about the countries he had leave in (Mediterranean countries; Greece, Italy, France, Spain,...) and being on guard duty at the White House. The scariest experience he said he had was being on guard duty at the fence in Guantanamo Bay during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
This is how it was during the time this movie is portraying. I entered the Arny in the late eighties at that time they had made rules that stopped drills from hitting you. So they used crushing amounts of physical exercise while telling everyone who was responsible. This usually led to recruits taking physical action against the offending parties
I enlisted in '83...they were still hitting us and dogging us. We had a guy that was almost 7' in our company, and he was a constant problem. We went to the field, and I saw 3 drill sergeants (or instructors) drag his ass into the woods. I don't know what they did to him, but he was a model soldier following that. We were eating C-rations when in the field, not MRE's. Good old Coffee, Instant, Type II. lol
Gunnery Sargent Lee Ermy, was the most iconic example of "old school," Marine Corps, military we have. But if you follow his career and his personal life, you'll see that Ermy was a man beloved by all people. When he passed, he was and is missed by many. And many of those never even met the man in person! RIP Gunny! 07
That was exactly what Marine Corps boot camp was like when I went through in 1979. The drill instructors said a lot of funny things, but if you ever laughed, they would turn their attention to you.
military drill instructors are always purposefully harsh, loud, and relentless - even brutal at times - in order to create a high-pressure, high-stress environment that will prepare raw recruits for the unforgiving reality of the battlefield. If these young men cannot stand up to the stress of military training, they will not survive in combat, the ultimate high-stress situation, with life and death on the line. And if Leonard had had his breakdown in a combat situation, the outcome could have been much worse for all of his comrades… (PT stands for “physical training” - a regimen of rigorous physical exercise designed to get the recruits into tiptop condition so that they can better withstand the hardship and demands of combat.)
This was what I experienced in 1979 at Parris Island. Four drill instructors 24/7. Sometimes it was hard not to laugh fully knowing the probable repercussions heading my way. But it was serious business, shaping us for the rest of our lives. Semper Fi!
What a lot of people forget is that R. Lee Ermey was a real life honest to goodness drill sergeant. He was hired by Kubrick originally to act as a consultant, but Ermey was convinced no one could do the role like him. So he began coming to the shoots in full uniform and acting out the scenes and correcting the original actor as if he were auditioning. One of the best things about Ermey is that every take they did his insults were different, everyone was astonished by how he could spew new insults from out of nowhere and none of them would be the same
I offer a short side note that was not shown in the movie: Just to keep the intensity as high as possible they would rotate D. I.s every four hours or so. Just before the current D.I would run out of steam they would bring in a fresh one all rested and ready to go. This was 24/7. If you are going to crack, it's better to do so in basic training than on the battle field. This is true to form as I remember Vietnam era basic training.
I have heard (Though I don't know how True it is) that back then if you didn't make it through Marine training you would quietly vanish one night and receive a round through the head. Is this true? -In any event, Thank You for your service.
My stepfather was in the Army during Vietnam. I've never asked him about his service, but he told me one story that still gives me nightmares. He also said that during basic, he tripped going up the stairs one time and the drill sergeant laid a kick to his back so hard he damn near went up the entire flight. He never lost his footing again.
@Karaokuma Beirut Lebanon was going on at the time, so was the Iran Contra thing. Got a little bit into that. Got shot at by Filipino rebels when I was in the Philippines. I was on the airstrip fully loaded down the day before Reagan took office to go free the hostages in Tehran. I was supposed to go to Grenada instead they sent me to Norway. So yeah when I was in boot camp it was all sorts of nasty stuff going on around in the world.
Army Boot 1986 Drills were recently told they couldn't put hands on cruits. Many of them forgot. That training helped me through some really harsh times in my life.
@@MrCouchmen The dropout rates & suicide rates were way smaller than you would assume. In 9 months of training, I only saw 2 dropouts & 1 suicide attempt versus 600-700 people fully trained & put into active duty !!! 🇺🇸
I think anyone who has gone through basic training since this came out can remember their perception of this film before the experience and after the experience. It's interesting to see these scenes and have an understanding of the what's and why's that you didn't have before.
When the guys to my left and to my right heard these words they began to cry and for me my heart jumped for joy cause I felt I had a chance..in 78-82...yours very truly Alfonso Cantu USMC
GySgt. R. Lee Ermey was a real Marine and Drill Instructor. He was medically retired from the corps and was a consultant for the movie Full Metal Jacket. When the actor selected for the character portrayed in the movie, could not pull the part off. GySgt. Ermey went to his dress room and came out in full uniform and in character, pulled the scene, and immediately replaced the actor. And that’s the rest of the story.
This is what it was like back when the instructors could dish it out and the recruits could and had to take it. No demanding that others call them by certain words. No complaining about someone insulting you. Guess what? You are being trained to go to war and have the best chance of coming back alive. The enemy doesn't care about your pronouns. They are trying to do way worse than insult you. It taught you to be tough and be able to take orders to achieve a goal. Goals like getting your platoon or squad back to base. Not about teaching you to feel like you deserved special treatment or recognition because you think you deserve a trophy just for being you.
The first time I saw this scene when I was 14yrs old, I died laughing. My ribs hurted all night because of it. I played it over and over, I never heard someone go off on such a hardcore roast session like this, at that point😂. Ill never forget it😂
R. Lee Ermey was a senior drill instructor in the Marine Corp during Vietnam War. This wasn’t him acting. He was hired as an instructor for the real actor. When the director saw him do the role, fired the actor and hired R. Lee Ermey.
It was definitely not funny at the time. But now as I look back I get misty-eyed. I remember you Senior Drill Instructor, SSgt Kelly and Drill Instructors SSgt Kane and SSgt Thomas. I didn't realize how well you prepared me.
What most civilians don't realize is that a Drill Sgt. had a very limited amount of time to prepare civilians to fight, and more importantly survive, in the absolute HELL of Vietnam! The modern "recruit" would run to find their "Safe Space" sucking their thumb and crying for their Mommie! R.I.P. GUNNY!!!
Especially in the Vietnam era. I suggest you look up the term "McNamara's Morons" to see what "Pvt. Lawrence aka Gomer Pyle" was in the military of that era: *_"Project 100,000, also known as McNamara's 100,000, McNamara's Folly, McNamara's Morons, and McNamara's Misfits, was a controversial 1960s program by the United States Department of Defense (DoD) to recruit soldiers who would previously have been below military mental or medical standards. Project 100,000 was initiated by Defense Secretary Robert McNamara in October 1966 to meet the escalating workforce requirements of the U.S. government's involvement in the Vietnam War. According to Hamilton Gregory, author of the book McNamara's Folly: The Use of Low-IQ Troops in the Vietnam War, inductees of the project died at three times the rate of other Americans serving in Vietnam and following their service had lower incomes and higher rates of divorce than their non-veteran counterparts. The project was ended in December 1971"_*
I played this VHS over and over. Had every word memorized. Would recite EVERY single word! up until *& these Boots are made for walkinI' plays. Then I'd hit rewind and start all over. Sorta like karaoke. Mimic whole first half. 😂 I was so into too. Obsessed. It.feltl like beating a Nintendo video game for example . Exactly like practicing for a contest which didn't even exist. Impossible to lose was no competition. Bizarre period of insanity. A strange fascination . Fully emerged and found it fun. ❤ this line just popped in my head: * I think Leonard is a section 8.....
My father who was in the Marines in the 50’s I think he went in in 52 got out in 57 said he saw corporal punishment on quite a few occasions. He said the one that sticks in his mind the most was when a recruit just off to the side but in his peripheral arc got popped in the nose by a DI with a dirty rifle but. He said helmet and blood went flying. Drew him in with what is this get a good look so this doesn’t happen again pop in the nose.
The actor playing the drill instructor was an actual Marin drill sergeant and was only hired to be an advisor. When the actor hired to play the drone director couldn’t perform to Stanley Kubrick liking they just made the advisor the actor and he just came out with whatever he said this wasn’t scripted. This was actual stuff that happened and it was said when he was in the Marine Corps way back when.
For reference you can read a book which includes a graphic description of Marine boot camp at Paris Island by Eugene Sledge (who is a bio character in The Pacific) called With the Old Breed. R. Lee Ermey was a USMC DI so his and Eugene's descript are about the same.
The best part is he was originally there just as an advisor for the movie. But they let him have a crack at it and all of his part is him actually going back to his Drill Instructor days.
Then Forrest Gump walks in and says me and Drill sgt are like peas and carrots. Then Bubba opens his trunk has and Shrimp cocktail, at least is not a jelly donut
I'd say it was pretty close for the time. I wasn't there until 82, and it was common for the D.I. to yell at you with the brim of his campaign cover (hat) touching your forehead. Would have been more effective on me if they were better than my dad at it.
Active duty Marine from 1995-2007. I always sum up boot camp as the “Funniest place on Earth where you are not allowed to laugh”.
During 3rd phase, I made the mistake of laughing out loud for about one second while the Series Gunny was doing a personnel inspection of our platoon. I thought for sure I was going to die that day.
Dude, almost immediately off the bus. We had to stand there with our arms out from our sides holding whatever luggage we brought (Not a problem for me, I had a heads up and brought only one change of civie clothes.) and the guy giving us instructions says "I don't want to hear a peep out of you! I don't care if you have friggin tourette syndrome and go UUUURGHUUTUUUUUURGH! I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT!!". That almost had me.
Got in in 2008 so you're not one of mine. The hazing you gave these tards PALES in comparison to the fleet, as someone who went from East Coast and got sent to 1/5
I went to a youth challenge, and it's the same thing, I kinda miss it.
@ Go see your local Marine recruiter. He'll help you relive that experience, only it will be for real.
R.I.P. GSgt R.Lee Ermey. Semper Fi
👍 straight US Marine Corps! He did that for a living for real. I have friends who trained at Paris Island. This if hot fake. they want killers.
Oorah!
Great soldier and great actor after his service a good man!
Semper FI!
Devil Dogs
That's about how it was. I served 20 years in the Marine Corps and two combat tours in Vietnam. The first tour as a machine gunner (0331) in 1965-66 and the second as a Platoon commander (0369) in 1970-71. I retired after 20 years and had a 30 year career as a California police officer ( Marin County). What I learned in the Marine Corps has helped me all my life. I highly recommend it to anyone needing direction and wishing to learn self discipline .
Tom Boyte
GySgt. USMC, retired
Bronze Star, Purple Heart
Bless your heart jarhead
RAH, I love and hate my Marines.
Thank you for your service.
Thank you, Sir.
Thankyou you scroungey little fuck😂
REST IN PEACE R. LEE ERMY ! 67 Year old Army
Veteran here. My uncle was a marine drill instructor back then. When Uncle Charlie came to visit he didn't leave that at the base . My 17th birthday, i joined the Army 😮
This is 1960s vietnam Marine Corps, yes this is what it was like
Agree.That drill instructor.Was an actual drill instructor in the marines.
Exactly as it was in boot. No holding back. We were preparing to go to war. Four of my boot platoon didn't make it back.
@@snave59 R. Lee Ermey en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Lee_Ermey
Thats horrid. I think into special forces should go only individual who already experienced army or National Guard.
Could you address a D.I. as sir back then? I forget.
He’s not acting..
That a regular day for him..
He was combining acting skills with actual experience to bring his character to life.
The boys ain’t there to crochet a sweater. Give me a war face!
It was probably easier than a regular day. He likely wasn’t yelling as loud as he would in real life to be heard.
My dad was a marine from 1957-1964 and he said it was exactly like that
I served in the Marine Corps and the answer to one man's question is, yes, Marine Corps basic training IS REALLY like that. I served in Korea and Vietnam, and I have to say that this movie was pretty realistic in many aspects.
Not a comedy! We were brutal to new recruits!!
Fun Fact: Bob Ross was a Drill Sargent in the Air Force, he said himself "I was Loud and Mean and make you clean the latrine" and he said he was done yelling and acting angry...
They don't have drill instructors in the Air Force! They Are TI's Training Instructors
@stevesparks2001 LOL I am literally quoting him...
@@thumpyloudfoot864
Sounds p*ssified to me.
Semper fi!
Yeah, he didn't like yelling anymore. It's hard to imagine he was like that at all.
Now, that is hard to paint that in my mind.
USArmy too. I was called hillbilly by my DI (WV born). He asked me if my Dad was my Mom's cousin. He asked me if our porch ever collapsed? I said no. He said I bet the 10 dogs were happy. It went on for 8 weeks, 8 long weeks... then on to Infantry 😢 1968
They were not trying to piss you off, they were trying to make you a killer (and save your life)
In the Marine Corps they were trying to make you a pissed off killer (and save your life) :)
As a non military man it took me a while growing up to learn why all of this was done; and how necessary it is. So that in the thick of things you respond without having to think.
Conditioning; getting you accustomed to being yelled at, insulted, being used to stress. Or as I’ve heard; getting you comfortable being uncomfortable so that during live operations you function at peak physical and psychological levels. Thats why they bury you with repetitiousness
My drill sergeant called me "neonazi" and "knuckle nuts". He was this short Filipino guy. He might have been small but he sure tf was mighty lol
Tough, but with a needed result. Marines were the toughest, and best fighters. My dad was an officer in the Army on D-Day, at Normandy. He never talked-about what happened after setting foot on the beach. Only on the ship, and after reaching Paris(after promoted to Captain). After the war, he was assigned to be in charge of a war bride ship from England, to New York. He said many of the women were sea-sick, mainly because they were pregnant. From New York to Dallas, he was to make sure they left the train at the right city. After the war, he joined the Army Reserves and retired Lt. Col.(while working as a high school principal, with Doctorate of Education). Always kept his oath to never discuss classified info about his military duty. I admire him for that.
300 Marines landed on that day also.
@@ChrisLichowicz They were probably the best of the attack. 👍
They are first to fight
My grandfather was there in Europe right after D-Day with the 63rd Infantry Division, 255th Regiment. He was among the first American platoons to stumble upon the concentration camps like Buchenwald. He drank to forget, then that was all he talked about.
They still are as a whole
the late R. Lee Ermy was a real USMC drill instructor and was originally just hired as a military advisor for Stanley Kubrick. But after he gave a demonstration how a Marine D.I. acts, Kubrick wanted him to play the role of Gunnery Sgt Hartman
The chopper gunner was the guy originally cast as Sgt. Hartman
Every time i see the Parris Island barracks it nearly brings a tear to my eye. So many great men walked those halls. So many more will follow. My unit in Camp Lejeune had a few things signed by him in our command post, and at Parris Island i qualified on the same range as R Lee Ermey. He died the year after i got out of the Marines. For the record, this is pretty accurate. I remember seeing a kid get dropkicked about 12ft for falling asleep against one of those white pillars (stancheons) in the squadbay 😂 Semper Fi, brothers 🤙
Why does it look like the San Diego squad bays?
@@ChrisLichowiczThey look pretty much the same. This was actually shot at Pinewood Studios in the UK. It's a very good copy though, for sure.
@@ChrisLichowiczin 67' we had Quanset huts.
Thanks for including me. Keep it up. Best part of the movie.
I went through Boot Camp in early 1974. In my opinion, this is pretty accurate. However, there were 4 Drill Instructors instead of one and this went on 24 hours a day for 13 weeks. Pretty intense both mentally and physically. This training help save my life in 2005 when I worked in Iraq as a civilian and was shot multiple times.
That's the point of it. It has proven to be an effective technique.
Haha....the "shark attack" with screaming from all directions. Def comes in handy when deployed though. 🤷♂️
TY for your service 🫡🇺🇸
I'm a retired veteran. As I look back on my time in the military.... I understand the necessity of the what and why my drill instructors and other military instructors taught me. I can assure you that combat is far far worse.. then any drill instructor. War is not just an assault on the body... it's an assault on the soul. The wounds heal but the scars remain. I believe my instructors were preparing me for this.
@@galemartin9155
Yep
For those that don’t know the Drill was R. Lee Ermey he was a member of the United States Marines & a former D.I., he was originally hired as a technical advisor not an actor. The actor that originally casted to play the DI was recast to a small part he is the helicopter door gunner seen later in the movie.
This is a very accurate depiction of Parris island boot camp in the '60's.
Don't know what's it like now but just the way it was in 1968. We recruits were thumped on a basis, as needed. We had one recruit in another platoon who attempted suicide. Didn’t succeed so our Drill Instructor Instructed on the correct way to commit suicide with our bayonets. Always instructing they were.
The Marine Corps was on a war time footing. We were going to Vietnam where the fighting was violent and fierce. Anyone that froze or broke would put their mate's lives in extreme jeopardy.
It was a strange time in America. Exactly one week after my unit's compound was half overrun (we beat them back and out), I was sitting in a community college classroom, briming with PTSD.
Strange times indeed.
😂😂😂😂 bro drill sargent istructing to bayonet suicide is savage
@@victormtz5018It was the times. No time for PC (wasn't invented yet - in fact the inventing generation hadn't arrived yet) or other soft landings. Just the way it was.
"You're so ugly you could be a modern art masterpiece!"...a true insults connoisseur can undermine something else simultaneously for no reason!
That meant a sh*t smear on a canvas.
I went thru basic in 1987, of course it wasn't as harsh as the Vietnam era but one problem I had was stifling laughter. Drill instructors are some of the funniest people I've ever run across
R. Lee Ermey himself said that any DI would be a brilliant stand-up comedian.
"Are you a peter puffer?"
"Sir, no, sir!"
"Bullsh*t! I bet you fart rainbows and shit Nutella, you pansy-ass sh*tbag!"
I went through boot in 1987 also. Orlando Naval base
the biggest difference between the time you went to boot and the Vietnam era was you VOLUNTEERED, you were NOT drafted, drafted meant you had NO choice but go through boot if called or go to prison....
I went through basic in 96 and it was worse than this. Camp Pendleton, MCRD in case you were curious which one.
"... how tall are you ... .5'9" ...... i didn't know they stack shit that high... " ........ always makes me laugh
That joke is so so old.
My father was voted Meanest Di on Pendleton 3 times in the 60s 70s. So this is what I lived with 18 years . Not just a few weeks
My father was never military but he was the same way, so I grew up and joined the Marines for more.😂
Private Joker survived the war and grew up to be…Doctor Martin Brenner.
I love your reaction video collections for specific scenes.
I also use it to see which reactors I want to see the whole reaction for.
Thank you Bro.
PT stands for Physical Training. And you would be surprised how painful it can get when forced to do for a long time. And yes, except for no longer being allowed to hit us, this was exactly what Parris Island was like in 1977. And yes it was designed to put pressure on every recruit. They had to know who couldn't handle it
"you don't have the common decency to give a reach around" Kubric didn't know what that meant. In real life Ermy was a soft spoken nice guy, RIP DUDE!
As Navy Hospital Corpsman stationed at MCRD San Diego in the early 80s this was the norm
I love how everyone is laughing with Pyle when he's grinning, and slack-jawed and serious AF 2 sec later. This is not a game.
That actor was an actual drill sargeant in the marines doing his thing. Totally authentic. They're training to kill not to be nice.
Yes kids, it was really like this. Although I doubt most DI's were as entertaining as R. Lee Ermey. This performance is magnificent.
“Is that you John Wayne? Is this me?” Line was a mistake. Joker was meant to do a southern accent and ask “is that you John Wayne” but the actor accidentally said the line in a John Wayne voice, acknowledging his mistake he added the “is this me” . Kubrick liked it and so it stayed
As an Australian...the worst thing you could do is call an NCO .."sir" ...im not a sir ...i work for a living 😂😂😂
In Marine boot camp, Drill Instructors are called "Sir!" by all the recruits, but that is the only time an NCO is referred to as such.
US Marines are different.
If you watch Forrest Gump, when he joins the US Army, they answer "yes Drill Sergeant!!!!!".
Marines are def different 🦅🌍⚓️
Sgt Ermey was an absolute gem to our country and to our cinema his scenes in this movie absolutely made it the iconic film it is R.I.P. GUNNY!
Gunny, appreciate your service. I served in the Army (Basic Ft Jackson, SC; AIT Ft Gordon, GA; PP Ft Gordon, GA), and while hitting was not allowed when I was in Basic during the late 80s, the DIs we had in our Company were free to use whatever expletive-filled language they chose to use. We had some real characters as our Company DIs, including one DI nicknamed "Little Hitler" (not sure how he got that nickname, as he was a short black muscular guy), and another DI nicknamed "Dust Master" because he made guys drop and do pushups so much that a lot of dust kicked up when he was near.
So when I first watched this GREAT movie and saw the Gunnery Sgt depicted the the late, GREAT R. Lee Ermey, it immediately resonated with me because of the aforementioned characters I encountered during my time in Basic. I didn't have near the appreciation back then as I do now (chalk it up to youthful ignorance on my part), but I hope your retirement is (largely) agreeing with you, and may God be with you.
I had the privilege to meet him when I was 14. He was a very kind man very polite and supported the troops he was all about soldiers and veterans. He was a true hero through and through.
This DI is so good that he even gets responses from people behind screen as well😂
Yes it's like that. Earned The Title in '83. The couldn't hit you but your rifle had a way of smacking the shit out of you when you least expected it.
This ain't the Boy Scouts or Summer Camp, folks..
It is as you see it. Pulls no punches. This is what “Bootcamp” really is like.😎🤙🏼
#1. Yes, it is like this, but without the hitting. They can do much worse without touching you. #2. What most fail to understand is that this is 24/7 for 3 months straight. I woke up and opened my eyes one night about 12 days in. Turned my head and looked right at my fellow recruits. As I went to look left, I was met with the stare of Drill Instructor Sgt Boone. He was 8 inches away, eye to eye, and whispered, "Go back to sleep recruit." I whispered "Aye Sir!" and closed my eyes. They are on you everywhere you go.
Their reactions are great, now imagine this atmosphere, of varying levels of intensity, EVERY DAY for 11 weeks.
You can always tell a veteran because they laugh during the basic training scenes.
Once during basic training, the TI was testing the door guard to our dorm while we all stood at attention while packed butt-to-balls in the stairwell. She went off on him in a way similar to this and I couldn't help but let a laugh escape. She turned heel and glared at me so fast it must have broken the sound barrier! I tried to play it off like I sneezed, but she wasn't having it, and ordered us to do push-ups IN THE STAIRWELL!
Ahhh, those were the days...
Lee Ermey was an actual Drill Instructor. He was a military advisor for the movie. Kubric went with Ermey for the role. From what I understand, that was his actual motivation al speech as a Drill. I believe this is the way it was before things got sensitive.
Back in the veitnam war yes now they got sensitivity cards and the drill Sargent was a real dill Sargent in the military r.i.p Sergent the best ❤
Oh shit Hartman is intense, not sure if younglings are ready
Graduated Dec1981 from University of Parris Island. This is the closest thing to what I lived. Infantry School and first unit was Pendleton CA, up and down mountains, ending my career at Lejuene. Infantry 12 years. Started a Private, finished as a Sergeant, E5. Was a PFC and a LCpl twice. Been to 37 countries, trained in 27, with combat action ribbons in two. Loved every minute of it.
RIP GySgt R. Lee Ermy.
Semper Fidelis
Nothing like the smell of Napalm in the morning. Its the smell of victory.
Here's the thing that many don't realize: Gunny Ermy had guidelines on which "recruits" he could interact with, but the writers and director wanted the most realism out of what MCBRT during the 1960s was like. There was a lot that drill sergeants could do back then that they cannot do now, for sure, but Gunny Ermy improvised almost all of that monologue. The only parts that were scripted were the questions he had to ask the "recruits" and their responses. I always wondered how many takes that entire scene took.
One other thing: My step-father was an Army doctor in Vietnam (Bien Hoa and Hue), and while he never had to take Basic Training as an officer, he was assigned to an Army unit (199th INF BDE (LT)) just outside Hue City, and he said he was fine for the first half of this movie, because he had nothing to compare it to, but when they got "in-country," it hit him as the realism was too close to how it actually was. To this day, he can't watch this movie all the way through.
Semper Fi, Gunny! Heaven will now be squared away, USMC-style!
I was in Marine Corps from 1981-1986", first time away from home, it was the scariest and most defining point of my life!! I became a Coast Guard officer after Marine Corps, but it was the Marine Corps that defined me!! To this day the proudest time in my life was being called a Marine for the first time!! Semper FI for my Marine Corps brothers and Semper Paratus for my CG brothers!!
Full Metal Jacket, brilliant movie, R Lee Ermey was supposed to be in the background as a consultant in this movie, but got the part as he used to be a Drill Sergeant in the marines, and I couldn't imagine this movie without him.
Marines are drill instructors…
"You will not laugh! You will not cry! You will learn by the numbers! I will teach you!" Got DAMN! 🤣🤣🤣
His lines were not scripted. Stanley told him to just do his job as a DI
This was Marine and Army boot camp reality in the 50's thru late 70's. GSgT. R.Lee Ermy was the perfect choice for the drill instructor in this. This was his world until he retired fron the Corps.
My father was in the Marines when John Kennedy was President. He says everyone in his unit got their ass kicked by their drill instructor except himself because he made sure he did everything exactly as he was told. He has told me about the countries he had leave in (Mediterranean countries; Greece, Italy, France, Spain,...) and being on guard duty at the White House.
The scariest experience he said he had was being on guard duty at the fence in Guantanamo Bay during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
This is how it was during the time this movie is portraying. I entered the Arny in the late eighties at that time they had made rules that stopped drills from hitting you. So they used crushing amounts of physical exercise while telling everyone who was responsible. This usually led to recruits taking physical action against the offending parties
I enlisted in '83...they were still hitting us and dogging us. We had a guy that was almost 7' in our company, and he was a constant problem. We went to the field, and I saw 3 drill sergeants (or instructors) drag his ass into the woods. I don't know what they did to him, but he was a model soldier following that. We were eating C-rations when in the field, not MRE's. Good old Coffee, Instant, Type II. lol
Gunnery Sargent Lee Ermy, was the most iconic example of "old school," Marine Corps, military we have.
But if you follow his career and his personal life, you'll see that Ermy was a man beloved by all people.
When he passed, he was and is missed by many. And many of those never even met the man in person!
RIP Gunny! 07
That was exactly what Marine Corps boot camp was like when I went through in 1979. The drill instructors said a lot of funny things, but if you ever laughed, they would turn their attention to you.
military drill instructors are always purposefully harsh, loud, and relentless - even brutal at times - in order to create a high-pressure, high-stress environment that will prepare raw recruits for the unforgiving reality of the battlefield. If these young men cannot stand up to the stress of military training, they will not survive in combat, the ultimate high-stress situation, with life and death on the line. And if Leonard had had his breakdown in a combat situation, the outcome could have been much worse for all of his comrades… (PT stands for “physical training” - a regimen of rigorous physical exercise designed to get the recruits into tiptop condition so that they can better withstand the hardship and demands of combat.)
This was what I experienced in 1979 at Parris Island. Four drill instructors 24/7. Sometimes it was hard not to laugh fully knowing the probable repercussions heading my way. But it was serious business, shaping us for the rest of our lives. Semper Fi!
What a lot of people forget is that R. Lee Ermey was a real life honest to goodness drill sergeant. He was hired by Kubrick originally to act as a consultant, but Ermey was convinced no one could do the role like him. So he began coming to the shoots in full uniform and acting out the scenes and correcting the original actor as if he were auditioning. One of the best things about Ermey is that every take they did his insults were different, everyone was astonished by how he could spew new insults from out of nowhere and none of them would be the same
I offer a short side note that was not shown in the movie: Just to keep the intensity as high as possible they would rotate D. I.s every four hours or so. Just before the current D.I would run out of steam they would bring in a fresh one all rested and ready to go. This was 24/7. If you are going to crack, it's better to do so in basic training than on the battle field.
This is true to form as I remember Vietnam era basic training.
I went in the Corps in '66. It was worst than this.
I have heard (Though I don't know how True it is) that back then if you didn't make it through Marine training you would quietly vanish one night and receive a round through the head. Is this true? -In any event, Thank You for your service.
@@dokidaddy1056 No.
Thank You For Your Service 🇺🇸🦅 God Bless You 🙏
My stepfather was in the Army during Vietnam. I've never asked him about his service, but he told me one story that still gives me nightmares. He also said that during basic, he tripped going up the stairs one time and the drill sergeant laid a kick to his back so hard he damn near went up the entire flight. He never lost his footing again.
@@Karaokuma
They were there to teach you how not to get killed in combat, not coddle anyone.
@ChrisLichowicz I know that. Nobody should be surprised at the harsh treatment in basic.
@@Karaokuma
Things went a lot smoother in boot camp once I realized that. Plus, my D.I.s were all Nam vets. Once I found that out, it all made sense.
@ChrisLichowicz Were you in BC during wartime?
@Karaokuma
Beirut Lebanon was going on at the time, so was the Iran Contra thing. Got a little bit into that. Got shot at by Filipino rebels when I was in the Philippines. I was on the airstrip fully loaded down the day before Reagan took office to go free the hostages in Tehran. I was supposed to go to Grenada instead they sent me to Norway.
So yeah when I was in boot camp it was all sorts of nasty stuff going on around in the world.
Army Boot 1986 Drills were recently told they couldn't put hands on cruits. Many of them forgot. That training helped me through some really harsh times in my life.
It’s not like this anymore, but in the 60’s, the 70’s, & the 80’s it was absolutely like this. It made me the man that I am today !! 🇺🇸
Thats terrible. Its really incredible you made it till the end. Some people would go nuts and commited suecide.
@@MrCouchmen The dropout rates & suicide rates were way smaller than you would assume. In 9 months of training, I only saw 2 dropouts & 1 suicide attempt versus 600-700 people fully trained & put into active duty !!! 🇺🇸
@@MrCouchmen Men that entered the miltary weren't as soft and squishy as they are now days. Mental health weren't nearly as bad as now.
I think anyone who has gone through basic training since this came out can remember their perception of this film before the experience and after the experience. It's interesting to see these scenes and have an understanding of the what's and why's that you didn't have before.
When the guys to my left and to my right heard these words they began to cry and for me my heart jumped for joy cause I felt I had a chance..in 78-82...yours very truly Alfonso Cantu USMC
I could watch this a million times and I'd still be howling
GySgt. R. Lee Ermey was a real Marine and Drill Instructor. He was medically retired from the corps and was a consultant for the movie Full Metal Jacket. When the actor selected for the character portrayed in the movie, could not pull the part off. GySgt. Ermey went to his dress room and came out in full uniform and in character, pulled the scene, and immediately replaced the actor. And that’s the rest of the story.
This is what it was like back when the instructors could dish it out and the recruits could and had to take it. No demanding that others call them by certain words. No complaining about someone insulting you. Guess what? You are being trained to go to war and have the best chance of coming back alive. The enemy doesn't care about your pronouns. They are trying to do way worse than insult you. It taught you to be tough and be able to take orders to achieve a goal. Goals like getting your platoon or squad back to base. Not about teaching you to feel like you deserved special treatment or recognition because you think you deserve a trophy just for being you.
I love how even people that have not been in the military knew he f'd up by saying his John Wayne line. Such an iconic monolog and war movie!
The first time I saw this scene when I was 14yrs old, I died laughing. My ribs hurted all night because of it. I played it over and over, I never heard someone go off on such a hardcore roast session like this, at that point😂. Ill never forget it😂
Dawn. PT is Physical Training
IT is individual training, not something you want. You and 1- 4 DI's.
Chrissie got some gifts! 😍
If you graduated from Parris Island this movie is a comedy..Semper Fidelis.
What a great movie!!! Some of the best one liners all time for war movies
R. Lee Ermey was a senior drill instructor in the Marine Corp during Vietnam War. This wasn’t him acting. He was hired as an instructor for the real actor. When the director saw him do the role, fired the actor and hired R. Lee Ermey.
It was definitely not funny at the time. But now as I look back I get misty-eyed. I remember you Senior Drill Instructor, SSgt Kelly and Drill Instructors SSgt Kane and SSgt Thomas. I didn't realize how well you prepared me.
This particular sequence has my favorite adjective: "grabasstic".
What most civilians don't realize is that a Drill Sgt. had a very limited amount of time to prepare civilians to fight, and more importantly survive, in the absolute HELL of Vietnam! The modern "recruit" would run to find their "Safe Space" sucking their thumb and crying for their Mommie! R.I.P. GUNNY!!!
Especially in the Vietnam era. I suggest you look up the term "McNamara's Morons" to see what "Pvt. Lawrence aka Gomer Pyle" was in the military of that era: *_"Project 100,000, also known as McNamara's 100,000, McNamara's Folly, McNamara's Morons, and McNamara's Misfits, was a controversial 1960s program by the United States Department of Defense (DoD) to recruit soldiers who would previously have been below military mental or medical standards. Project 100,000 was initiated by Defense Secretary Robert McNamara in October 1966 to meet the escalating workforce requirements of the U.S. government's involvement in the Vietnam War. According to Hamilton Gregory, author of the book McNamara's Folly: The Use of Low-IQ Troops in the Vietnam War, inductees of the project died at three times the rate of other Americans serving in Vietnam and following their service had lower incomes and higher rates of divorce than their non-veteran counterparts. The project was ended in December 1971"_*
I played this VHS over and over. Had every word memorized. Would recite EVERY single word! up until *& these Boots are made for walkinI' plays. Then
I'd hit rewind and start all over. Sorta like karaoke. Mimic whole first half. 😂 I was so into too. Obsessed. It.feltl like beating a Nintendo video game for example . Exactly like practicing for a contest which didn't even exist. Impossible to lose was no competition. Bizarre period of insanity. A strange fascination . Fully emerged and found it fun. ❤ this line just popped in my head: * I think Leonard is a section 8.....
Hi Army veteran here (1984). My Drill Sargent was this bad. Three of my fellow recruits attempted suicide before basic training was over.
Until joker got punched, he didn't really understand where he had landed or where he was headed. He's that guy trying to ice-skate uphill!
Blade quote
Great seen but is better when the cuss words aren't bleeped out.
To answer the Scottish ladies question PT = Physical Training.
It's not like this anymore, but this is absolutely accurate for the Vietnam era. Corporal punishment was still used in the 1960's and 1970's.
My father who was in the Marines in the 50’s I think he went in in 52 got out in 57 said he saw corporal punishment on quite a few occasions. He said the one that sticks in his mind the most was when a recruit just off to the side but in his peripheral arc got popped in the nose by a DI with a dirty rifle but. He said helmet and blood went flying. Drew him in with what is this get a good look so this doesn’t happen again pop in the nose.
He did a interview for a show about Sargents, he said groups were bigger and they cut 4 weeks off and finished them 6 weeks.
Still got thumped in '79 at San Diego MCRD.
Semper fi!
Platoon 3054
By the way, Devin G served in the Marine Corps. He said this when he reacted to this film.
Gunny was the man. He was hired as a consultant for full metal jacket and ended up with the most iconic role of its day.
The actor playing the drill instructor was an actual Marin drill sergeant and was only hired to be an advisor. When the actor hired to play the drone director couldn’t perform to Stanley Kubrick liking they just made the advisor the actor and he just came out with whatever he said this wasn’t scripted. This was actual stuff that happened and it was said when he was in the Marine Corps way back when.
Yeah. It's exactly like that.
For reference you can read a book which includes a graphic description of Marine boot camp at Paris Island by Eugene Sledge (who is a bio character in The Pacific) called With the Old Breed. R. Lee Ermey was a USMC DI so his and Eugene's descript are about the same.
“YOU DON’T SCARE ME! WORK ON IT.”
Love how he’s still bellowing the “work on it” but it doesn’t sound like an exclamation point.
The best part is he was originally there just as an advisor for the movie. But they let him have a crack at it and all of his part is him actually going back to his Drill Instructor days.
60s and 70s this is real shit
This is old school United States Marine Corps boot camp. After three months of Marine boot camp, the devil doesn't seem that bad.
Then Forrest Gump walks in and says me and Drill sgt are like peas and carrots. Then Bubba opens his trunk has and Shrimp cocktail, at least is not a jelly donut
We all laugh like Pyle until that moment... then both he and we understand it's serious....
Yes they did this
I'd say it was pretty close for the time. I wasn't there until 82, and it was common for the D.I. to yell at you with the brim of his campaign cover (hat) touching your forehead. Would have been more effective on me if they were better than my dad at it.