John Finds Out Mariko Saved His Life From the Christians as Her Final Act Shogun Episode 10 Finale
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*Saved him from the Catholics. The distinction is important.
She even protected him in death
Did she? Wasn't it just a result of Toranaga's machination?
@@Leonn3rd both
@@Leonn3rd It was Mariko's idea. She came up with it to protect John and keep him safe even after her death. Toranaga accepted the idea, Mariko brokered the deal with Father Alvito, and Toranaga executed the ship's burning.
He was a stranger in a strange land and she was his only conduit to that world both emotionally and linguistically.
All of the last 3 episodes were an emotional gut punch.
I dunno maybe it's just me but i cried a bit in every damn episode.
That last scene was hard, acting trying not to cry then crying, all in silence. You can hear the how the character broke inside.
It was so emotional until the happy happy song of this channel came in ....:/
I know it is the pattern but still...
Loved it, felt so real and raw. Hope he wins all the awards
I understand it that in this moment he felt her love, even after losing her which made her loss even more unbearable.
Mariko truly loved John 🥀😢
Can someone in this show PLEASE... give my boy a hug... He needs it
They don’t hug in this show. They bow. I feel like his old consort should have given a hug during their departure.
It was considered unmanly back in those days for men to hug
@@morganbrown392 That's exactly why he needs a hug...and some pints.
@@savhoneybadger3177 More in Japan than England.
No! He is teki. teki gets no hugs.
I'm just going to sit over here sobbing with John
I’m not crying, you’re crying
It's raining.
I shed angry tears twice..she escaped death by a hair..I was angered..wait no 2x angry but when John was in th boat.. trying to hold back...yeah the man tears thus came
2:57 Bro this is so fcked up, I'm literally sobbing in my chair rnow T-T
I dont even know how he's doing it, the character and the actor, character wise thats a tough thing to go through and still hold composure and actor wise, being able to portray that emotion to that depth is superb
Impossible not to shed a tear while watching the last 3 episodes.
What this show did utterly brilliantly was how vital information was conveyed through expressions and gestures.
This scene could've ended with Blackthorne talking to himself, or an end-monologue with Mariko in soft light and sappy music. But no, we just see this rather long scene of him emoting all the different thoughts that must be going through the character's head at that moment. Excellent!
Yes, no words were necessary. The acting did its job. Show, don't tell
切ないね。
The emotion described by the Japanese word "切ない" (setsunai) is a complex state of heart that combines feelings of sadness, loneliness, and frustration. It is often used in situations involving heartbreak, separation, or longing for someone far away, where one experiences a poignant ache. "Setsunai" can also express the frustration of not being able to obtain something or fulfill a desire. The feeling often intertwines with bittersweet memories or hopes, carrying an element of beauty and melancholy.
So, the Japanese equivalent of German "Sehnsucht"?
Yes, i suppose thats the best way to discribe what john would be feeling now.
A love affair so brief yet so profound. It may not be the happy ending but it shows that Mariko’s love to Anjin was expressed thru her sacrifice.
And now, i would like to go to a corner and cry.
Its funny. Both actors for the Tsuji and Anjin wear coloured eye contacts. The priests eyes are naturally blue and Blackthornes eyes are a natural brown haha.
My eyes are yellow. You know why?
@@PanzarInthelake Jaundice?
@@PanzarInthelakeyou're a sith
Mariko is a Christ figure...a model Christian if you will. She died so the many would not. Self sacrifice
I had heard that she was going to die, but I’m still so sad knowing she did. Silly as it is, because the show isn’t a fairy tale, I was just hoping they’d get their happy ending.
If it gives you any comfort, the woman Mariko was based on didn't die in this manner and led a long(ish) life.
@@milosmilosmilos It does! Thank you for that information.
@@milosmilosmilos That isn't true. Hosokawa Gracia died at only age 37 and was killed by her retainer when Ishida (Ishido's inspiration) attempted to take her hostage. Her husband had ordered his servants to do so if her honor was threatened. She also didn't want to commit suicide as that's against Christianity.
@@milosmilosmilos Yes she did. In fact the last poem Mariko says in the show was made by Akechi Tama, her real life counterpart:
"Only by knowing when to fall, Do flowers become flowers And people become people"
As she was about to be taken hostage, she ordered her servant to kill her and then set fire to the castle.
@@TrippyTimesTwo no she actually died tragically…please google “Hosokawa Gracia”
Mariko and John will reunite in the afterlife.
You know, he had a wife back home and he has a wife after all these events.
@@The_Gallowglass
That doesn’t mean she is right for him
@@hmshood9212 lol
And go for that walk on the Thames ❤
Dude, you told me I would be starring in "Shogun" and I feel I'm in "Silence".
I see what you did there
Silence is the canon sequel to Shogun lol
This is how you end a show. Not crazy battles. No flying dragon torching city yet still can't do a good ending. Simple superb writing and acting. GOT...you s*ck
Thank you for Shogun
I would not mind a battle though ngl
@@fungunsun1 This series gave us some pretty refreshing authenticity, so if they had the budget and time, I'm confident they would have crafted a magnificent Sekigahara.
@@dagdamor1 the book doesnt have the battle
@@tl3033 Do me a favor, Google “Battle of Sekigahara” and let me know in detail why the book is necessary for a historical battle.
GoT has unlimited budget.
Iron thrones
Dragon
Big army battles
The night King
Shogun has a very low budget
.
No Iron Throne
Dragon ( but only Falcon)
Night King
Big army battles
But it executed so perfectly.
Ah, the feels in this remake! Superbly done!
i cried here
So did he. It just never got out.
I cried throughout all of this final episode.
This scene tore me up
I’m not crying 😢😢😢
Fantastic scene
Can anyone please tell me what the orchestral music is that’s playing in the background as John starts crying?
this is so sad, breearking down on the boat
I really need to find which OST is playing in the final scene, its beautiful
Pleaae let me knownwhen u do!
Looking too 😣
.
Haunting
sadly its not in the official soundtrack such a shame. most powerfull scene in the whole series.
how do I find the music for when he's sailing away?
That’s what I’m after
i want it to its perfect sadly its not in the official soundtrack.
Ending was perfect.
Crying voice acting when say Goodbye and good luck
Let it be know that Anjin-sama had the last taste of Mariko-Sama's cake. I know who my hatamoto is! xD
Every man just wants a woman like Lady Maria 😢
The ending music on this channel really destoys the mood.
😢
Soundtrack?
エピソード10まで見て、この宣教師1人だけが善人だったと思う…😅
I disagree. He was content to let Blackthorn die if Mariko had not made a deal with the Catholics to prevent that. He was more loyal to his country's interests than his Church's. Everyone in this show has ulterior motives no one is pure.
@@othelliusmaximusmaybe the characters portrayed by Nestor Carbonell and Joaquim Almeida were the only Europeans with some standards, plus the protagonist.
Blackthorn is a heretic
@@othelliusmaximusI disagree with that. He very easily could have had him killed in the woods. But he honored Mariko-Sama’s last wish/deal
Imagine receiving a blessing like Mariko-sama
She just what's women like to be
It was not Mariko but actualy Toronaga : )
Oh it's the guy that plays the ptsd crazy bloke from peaky blinders , nice!
oshit you're right, it's Barney!
The Title should be change to word Catholics instead of Christian, nothing against the Catholics, war of John is not not really about religion, it is
about Power , who will rule the whole Seas.
You're right, but up until Blackthorne shows up the Japanese Christians didn't know they were Catholic as opposed to Christian in general. The Jesuits would deny there was such a thing as a protestant church, only heretics. To the Japanese the fact that there were other countries in Europe beside Spain and Portugaul would be a surprise.
That thumbnail is a man in pain.
Mariko arranged for his ship to be burned, and once it was burned, Blackthorne was no threat to the Catholic Portuguese.
Blackthorne was a Christian, Church of English.
By removing the pauses in speech, you take away the soul of the conversation. It's just information, no experience.
Well obviously they cant show the whole thing its copyright
How painful it is to lose your love. Endless pain
Real Love never lost it.s just Nobel feeling not desire and matter
I'd have saved the girl and become shogun without my son or next friend dying..
You'd probably end up dead in episode 1 if you were in toranaga's shoes.
@therealistintheboot8822 no I wouldn't
What's love without loss?
and then she had his ship sunk.
No Toranaga did.
No she didn't.
imagine how many non-japanese people are going to be in J-dramas in 10 years since everyone is desperately trying to learn Japanese rn.
*Sad Anjin noises.*
saved him from the catholics
Their only real fear was Blackthorne revealing the naval course to open competing trade with Japan. With the Erasmus sank, the Portuguese had no fear of Blackthorne and knew that he is merely an interesting anomaly for Toranaga.
What they didn't appreciate is that Toranaga used Anjin to bring the Portuguese to the table and broker a neutrality when it comes to Ishido and the Council of Regents.
It's too bad that the FX series really trimmed down the Portuguese / Jesuit plotline. Unfortunately there wasn't enough time.
Actors cost money the longer you keep them on set
What did we miss from the Jesuits in this adaptation?
I'll never understand the animosity between the various religions, especially since most have the same God just under a different name.
Just a different form of tribalism.
So Johns life was spared in exchange for the destruction of his ship ?
Yes. As the Catholics and the Portuguese will always see John's ship as a threat to their power, influence and trade. So in order to save his life, put the Catholics' minds at ease, and ensure John never leaves Japan, the ship had to be destroyed.
Is it just me, or does Cosmo Jarvis have a voice to compare with Richard Burton?
I'm sure I recall an interview he did where he said he was consciously channelling a sort of 'Burton' vibe. And credit where it's due, it worked.
@@Blisterdude123 Speaking as one who grew up near Pontrhydyfen (but never met the great man) absolutely agree with you.
Wasn't it catholic not Christian? Spain was catholic
in the eyes of British people. Yes. The catholic were not Christians. and through out this show anjiun keeps saying this .
The fact that the person who posted this video called themselves Christians. Shows you that he is with the Spanish.
Catholics are the original Christians, then and now.
Catholics are Christians
I hope John finds love again too
Its been a really long time 40 plus years but seem to remember Fugi not becoming a nun and staying with John and them both being happy together!
@@kona883she died in the book
@@leonardogodoy8687 yes you’re right she died in the book! But in the original mini series she stayed with John,
In a real history, Miura Anzin had two children with Japanese wife.
I think he did, hence the "Old John" scene with his 2 Grandchildren
What's the point of all the jump cuts? Really irritating.
you're watching this on youtube. not hulu or fx. For free.
no.....she saved his life from the catholics....
Lady Maria?
Mariko’s Christian name
I'm glad this Christian character is not like the other catholic guys that always plot something devious and use "god" just to justify anything.
That priest was actually one of the good ones, it’s why he and Mariko got along so well
@@danix4883 yes in both versions of this tale, I like Fr Alvito. The bishop comes off worse in this version and Fr Sebastio is a whinier version of the older one.
The original was still better.
I am old enough to have watched the original, and no, it was not better. Great for its time, but this show is better in every department.
@@wahn10 Too depressing and it veered away from the book. The original series was vibrant. The characters were more eclectic.
@@warrennicholsony.fernando4513 It's your opinion, but you're enormously in the minority on this one. The 1980 series isn't even in the same league as this, I'm afraid.
@@TastyCement I don't think so. This version too cold and the characters tend to be too distant with each other. There was no chemistry with Blackthorn and Mariko. Toranaga's reason for keeping Blackthorn in Japan was way deeper. This version is already veering away from the book and they are making into something it is not.
Mariko cheated on Buntaro with Anjin.
That's true. It's also true Buntaro was wildly physically and psychologically abusive to her for years.
Her marriage to Buntaro was arranged to keep her within Toranaga's House. It wasn't a union of love or affection. There was never truly a meeting of the hearts between the two. This does not somehow negate the infidelity, but rather presents a context for the how and why of it.
I hate there only doing 1 season. Im left wanting more. And they absolutely could do more.
No, too many series drag things out season after season for no reason. One season, 10 episodes is perfect. Just like Chernobyl. But if you want more, I suggest reading the excellent book Shogun is adapted from.
Nah there wasn't much more to this story. You'd basically have to do character spin offs.
Don't wish for more. FX was still able to make season 1 more or less when it was still under the umbrella of Fox Group. Since then, Disney acquired Fox, which included Shogun.
If there's a season 2, pray for the best but expect the worst. Disney is right now psychotically enforcing DEI everywhere. Be aware of who's producing and the dirty pressures they are exerting on Japanese creatives right now. See what's happened to Hollyweird. The DEI parasites have already started their attempts to contaminate Japan.
No war in final episode 😔
Look up Sekigahara to find that war.
@@apresoline3306 there wont be season 2
The book didn't even show the war. Just a page of explanation about it. Besides, the point of the story wasn't about wars. Ot's about politics & traditions in sengoku era.
AND THATS WHAT MAKES IT PERFECT!
There are white people in Shogun? Ugh, all interest lost
Well yeah there were white people in Japan during those times and the story is based on actual historical figures..
@@MultiTrickster121 I understand, but it's kind of embarrassing that Disney can only tell a story in Japan if there's white people in it
Lol, nice bait 🤡
His crying was so bad
It was realistic to men of that time. Strong men feel pain just like others, but they are not in the habit of bawling their eyes out.
real crying of men deeply inside them without drop of tears
How was it bad? That's the cry of a man who is trying to be strong but failing
We should make a show . When a British, an Arabic, an African from the messai , and Indian monk , and a Japanese Samurai with a native American . All of them meet.
"Both life, and death have a purpose." -Mariko