Why SHOGUN Has The PERFECT Ending

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  • Опубликовано: 11 янв 2025

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  • @BrainPilot
    @BrainPilot  8 месяцев назад +331

    Do you think Shogun has the perfect ending? I know there were hopes for a battle but I feel the decision to not include it allowed the core of the show to shine. Let me know your thoughts below!

    • @Chewy427
      @Chewy427 8 месяцев назад +54

      No battle and no future. Ending so shit it made a shitty series shittier. I wouldn't even call it an ending, nothing ended. There's still a looming battle and loads of unresolved forces. Character development is garbage, people don't change. Show me setting development. Political change, technological change.

    • @586bomin
      @586bomin 8 месяцев назад +27

      ​​@@Chewy427The ending ( as I mentioned) is anticlimactic because it's meant to. As Torunaga wanted to win the least of bloodshed spilled ,the series end without seeing a full on battle. It's as if his plan was not only within the story but breaking the 4th wall for the series and even though we don't see full on battle , we still care for those who died to accomplish the goal as if we are left with the sense we lost dear friends , as the casualties were minimal but heartfelt ( we were meant to lament because in war any loss is regrettable) .Torunaga sacrificed his closest allies for the well of the realm and as Blackthorne was just another chess piece, but becomes the one who was spare after being the one with most likelihood to NOT survive. He's transformed, he never makes it " home" because he's home. The battle of Sakigahara was never the end goal, we just need it to see what leads, not to the battle, but what Torunaga did to spill the least amount of blood and why and how Torunaga was to become Shogun. footnote: Oshiba's son might be Torunaga's

    • @Filumgaming
      @Filumgaming 8 месяцев назад +49

      @@Chewy427 tv shows this good are wasted on people like you lmao. go watch some big bang theory

    • @IamMarian
      @IamMarian 8 месяцев назад +26

      No, I think it was terrible, boring and rushed.

    • @Neotidus
      @Neotidus 8 месяцев назад +4

      I can’t say I was thrilled about brief clips about how everything turns out

  • @mintybadger6905
    @mintybadger6905 8 месяцев назад +3345

    I’m so glad they blew their budget on costumes and getting everything looking perfect instead of a CGI battle with no emotional payoff.

    • @darbyohara
      @darbyohara 8 месяцев назад +41

      Exactly. Very poor writing or just lazy. How you gonna have a 3 act structure with no climax?

    • @alexlyster3459
      @alexlyster3459 8 месяцев назад +327

      ​@@darbyoharaIt DID have a climax. Episode 9. Marikos confronting of Ishido in Osaka.

    • @lucasballestin9085
      @lucasballestin9085 8 месяцев назад +3

      this

    • @annfryer4048
      @annfryer4048 8 месяцев назад +197

      This is not a war series. It’s about what happened behind the scenes - the people, church, trade, different cultures that lead to the war.

    • @pencilswordfish
      @pencilswordfish 8 месяцев назад +192

      Even the finale episode says this outright, when Toranaga tells Yabushige 'don't you get it, Crimson Sky already happened', aka the big battle already happened in the penultimate episode when Toranaga dropped a Mariko sized nuke on Ishido.

  • @rajifusama
    @rajifusama 8 месяцев назад +2264

    Everyone was looking forward to Crimson sky when Crimson sky is just Mariko all along..its brilliant

    • @BrainPilot
      @BrainPilot  8 месяцев назад +339

      Incredible. Even we were deceived by Toranaga which makes it even better.

    • @briengakaplan-b1550
      @briengakaplan-b1550 8 месяцев назад +107

      The poetry was mightier than the sword.

    • @franug
      @franug 8 месяцев назад +132

      and Mariko knew it all along; in the first scenes with Blackthorne she says that Toranaga had gave her a mission, a new purpose in life; I think even back then they were planning it

    • @MusicProducerrr
      @MusicProducerrr 8 месяцев назад +9

      Got the same idea while watching!

    • @dirtbarton2174
      @dirtbarton2174 8 месяцев назад +86

      Yes. “It would have meant certain death. So I sent a woman to do what an army never could.”

  • @ronnieguimond8357
    @ronnieguimond8357 8 месяцев назад +503

    I just adore Fuji. Just an innocent soul. Doing her duty as consort and eventually growing to trust Blackthorne to release her husband and son's ashes into the sea. When she told Blackthorne to let his hands be the last to touch Mariko's cross, I felt the touching emotion of that moment.

    • @Irishrover101
      @Irishrover101 6 месяцев назад +6

      Her final scene with John was so nice to see. She couldn't stand to be his consort at first but she saw in him what Mariko saw. It was emotional watching the ashes put in to the lakes

    • @BoraHeyTae
      @BoraHeyTae 2 месяца назад

      Me too. The line was powerful because it wasn't just "let his hands be the last to touch miracles cross"; it was more or less: let his hands be the last to touch/hold her.

  • @briengakaplan-b1550
    @briengakaplan-b1550 8 месяцев назад +1109

    "You should be the last one to hold her." Ugh this damn series 😭😭😭

    • @BrainPilot
      @BrainPilot  8 месяцев назад +39

      So emotional!

    • @hrhqueene
      @hrhqueene 8 месяцев назад +22

      That callback to Episode 1 😭😭😭

    • @JB-xl2jc
      @JB-xl2jc 7 месяцев назад +7

      The ending truly gutted me, but I suppose in reality it was the only way it could've gone. I won't stop wishing Mariko could've gotten to choose the manner of her life, rather than spend it trapped in harsh and brutal service to others... but, at least she got to choose the manner of her death, and that is better than many get.

    • @pratik6342
      @pratik6342 5 месяцев назад +2

      One of my favorite line!

  • @gonaye1
    @gonaye1 8 месяцев назад +826

    The most beautiful part of the finale for me was how many people were affected by Mariko’s death, either by regretting it (Ishido, the Regents, Yabusige), remembering her poetry (Lady Ochiba, Toranaga) remembering her words (Blackthorne, Fuji), or honoring her wishes (Toranaga, the Monk Alvito).
    Toranaga’s vision (and four-dimensional chess game) was finally realized, but the show never forgot that Mariko was the true heart of the story, transforming everyone by her life and by her death, and destroying Toranaga’s enemies in a way an army never could. She was such an unforgettable character in a such a wonderful show.
    Thank you, Mariko-dono. You are the beautiful flower that finally fell, but, thankfully, you have been carried by the wind for all of the world to see and cherish, and you will never be forgotten.
    🌸🌺🌸

    • @briengakaplan-b1550
      @briengakaplan-b1550 8 месяцев назад +19

      RIP Crimson Sky aka Toda Mariko

    • @milosmilosmilos
      @milosmilosmilos 8 месяцев назад +57

      A strong female character done right.

    • @annfryer4048
      @annfryer4048 8 месяцев назад +31

      The ENTIRE Series … MASTERPIECE!! What I REALLY appreciated… the male characters showing sorrow and crying. Use to seeing Japanese men stern, cold, emotionless, hard to get a read on. This series allowed them to be human and relatable! This did the Japanese people a service! IMO. ❤️❤️

    • @ZaimGamePlay
      @ZaimGamePlay 8 месяцев назад +26

      " Why send an army, when I send the only woman capable of an army " - toranaga sama

    • @khusidas31
      @khusidas31 8 месяцев назад +6

      Wow what poetry

  • @mirandansa
    @mirandansa 8 месяцев назад +354

    John and Fuji on the boat... their platonic union, sharing their farewell to the people they loved, in the silence on their feelings for each other. Such a beautiful scene.

    • @JB-xl2jc
      @JB-xl2jc 7 месяцев назад +9

      Two people who are deeply in grief. They can barely communicate by language, and yet, they communicate enough to comfort each other.

  • @cbojorquez
    @cbojorquez 8 месяцев назад +872

    Shogun's finale is subtle and refined like the Japanese culture itself. No over-explanations, no unnecessary battle scenes. Everything was already said and it was pretty clear that Toranaga outsmarted everyone else and that he was to become the Shogun. My favorite line, which defines Lord Toranaga as an incredible strategist, is: I don't control the wind. I only study it.

    • @davidalger5625
      @davidalger5625 8 месяцев назад +3

      No, it was just written with enough space for their to be a sequel or not. The ending of the original series was better.

    • @cbojorquez
      @cbojorquez 8 месяцев назад +40

      @@davidalger5625 the showrunners announced that there will be no sequel.

    • @mohdrosley9909
      @mohdrosley9909 8 месяцев назад +9

      Hope another novel by James Clavell such as King Rat or Tai-Pan will get adaptation

    • @davidalger5625
      @davidalger5625 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@cbojorquez "I think if we had a story, if we could find a story, we would be open to it. But I don’t think that anyone ever wants to be out over their skis without a roadmap and everything. And it’s also just about, do people want more of it?”

    • @cbojorquez
      @cbojorquez 8 месяцев назад +3

      @AliAiham Yes, you are right. The Sengoku period ended with the victory of Tokugawa Ieyasu, who founded the Tokugawa Shogunate, which also started the Edo period, and who is the historical character Toranaga is based upon. But you already know that, as you must be a Japanese history scholar. I don't get why you laugh seriously, but you come across as very rude and arrogant.

  • @QuoteBlink
    @QuoteBlink 8 месяцев назад +1516

    "Flowers are only flowers because they fall"

    • @evansonhakeem
      @evansonhakeem 8 месяцев назад +42

      An absolute masterpiece that leaves you wanting more.

    • @furryfury.
      @furryfury. 8 месяцев назад +73

      Thankfully, the wind.
      At first I didn’t understand this but I think it means, the wind will bring the seeds developed from the flowers somewhere else to grow into becoming a great tree. The wind here was Toranaga.

    • @joecool2759
      @joecool2759 8 месяцев назад +21

      Nah F that….F that…you all shut your mouths. Good ending my behind, your telling me just showing Toranaga and Ishido looking at each other on the battlefield and not fighting only to be replaced by exposition of what happened and Lady Ochiba’s withdrawal from Ishido is a good ending my behind. You’re telling me that not showing Toranga’s heralding to be shogun is a good ending…my behind. Your telling me not showing John leading the cannon/ship regiments into battle getting his justice for Mariko is a good ending…my behind. Your telling me not showing John get married and have children and grow old with his family being buried and having a grave/monument in his name in modern day Yokosuka Japan just like the man he was based off in Japanese History (William Adam’s) is a good ending….my behind. FX’s (Disney) script… F that. They dropped the ball on another great show’s ending just like Legion…..F them!!!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣

    • @QuoteBlink
      @QuoteBlink 8 месяцев назад +43

      @@joecool2759 We don't speak Yapanese!

    • @dstarling61
      @dstarling61 8 месяцев назад +13

      I bet you struggled with poetry in school.

  • @Zoarkkk
    @Zoarkkk 8 месяцев назад +164

    "Why tell a dead man the future?" Most memorable line for me

    • @AstroSully
      @AstroSully 3 месяца назад +6

      As he smiles uttering the same sentence Yabushige did when talking about him. Man this man was a political chess monster.

    • @none--other
      @none--other 2 месяца назад

      So that his ghost does not haunt it, reason enough.

    • @saadsarwar8123
      @saadsarwar8123 27 дней назад +1

      @@AstroSully Wait does that mean his nephew was a spy too?

    • @DarkLord-c3z
      @DarkLord-c3z 27 дней назад

      Dead man tell no tales_ Lamb of God

  • @dstarling61
    @dstarling61 8 месяцев назад +291

    This story was never about battles, at least not military ones, it was a story of characters and boy did it deliver. Showing the Battle of Sekigahara would have added nothing to the story. And as Toranaga pointed out, the outcome was inevitable and history proved him right.

    • @annfryer4048
      @annfryer4048 8 месяцев назад +9

      EXACTLY!!

    • @sharebear421
      @sharebear421 8 месяцев назад +2

      It would have added a lot actually, the decisive ending. With the costumes and set pieces it could’ve been spectacular

    • @jmgonzales7701
      @jmgonzales7701 8 месяцев назад +1

      yes it was a political thriller

    • @thedingleberrybush6076
      @thedingleberrybush6076 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@sharebear421I think they were also held back by covid bungling on site shooting as the best we would’ve gotten for a battle would’ve been all cgi. I think it was wise they opted out of that as it would’ve devalued the shows point and message.

    • @grahamhill676
      @grahamhill676 8 месяцев назад +2

      What do you mean it would've added nothing? We would've actually seen Blackthorne do what he was meant to do. We would've seen the climax for the ENTIRE lead up of the series. The series is called SHOGUN, and doesn't feature a shogun. It doesn't even feature progress towards shogun because the only change is that Toranaga gets one ally. That's it.

  • @pretty-white-lamb
    @pretty-white-lamb 8 месяцев назад +356

    They went for the poignant and poetic end rather than the heroic and spectacular, consistent with the way the story was told up to that point. I actually loved the way Ishido's downfall was depicted as a manifestation of Toranaga's grand vision: just looking at the war correspondence and knowing he lost before the battle even began.

    • @wiewat231
      @wiewat231 8 месяцев назад

      Typing did lots of correspondence too

    • @joecool2759
      @joecool2759 8 месяцев назад +8

      Nah F that….F that…you all shut your mouths. Good ending my behind, your telling me just showing Toranaga and Ishido looking at each other on the battlefield and not fighting only to be replaced by exposition of what happened and Lady Ochiba’s withdrawal from Ishido is a good ending my behind. You’re telling me that not showing Toranga’s heralding to be shogun is a good ending…my behind. Your telling me not showing John leading the cannon/ship regiments into battle getting his justice for Mariko is a good ending…my behind. Your telling me not showing John get married and have children and grow old with his family being buried and having a grave/monument in his name in modern day Yokosuka Japan just like the man he was based off in Japanese History (William Adam’s) is a good ending….my behind. FX’s (Disney) script… F that. They dropped the ball on another great show’s ending just like Legion…..F them!!!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣

    • @ElZilchoYo
      @ElZilchoYo 8 месяцев назад +27

      @@joecool2759 You missed the whole point of the show then, if you want an action sequence go play Shogun Total War.

    • @rupitusman
      @rupitusman 8 месяцев назад +25

      ​@@joecool2759you type like blackthorne ranting to toronaga and mariko just translating it to: "the anjin disagrees with the ending"

    • @joecool2759
      @joecool2759 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@rupitusman lol yea

  • @RainyNightGaming88
    @RainyNightGaming88 8 месяцев назад +181

    Im a grown ass oldschool man and I almost teared up watching Blackthorne reaction after Mariko's death. This is what good TV looks like. Incredible production.

    • @scratchy996
      @scratchy996 8 месяцев назад +2

      I saw the original show as a kid and Mariko's death shocked me. I didn't understand back then why she made her choice.
      This time I knew what to expect, but it still felt like a punch in the gut.
      As a grown man, having experienced many things, including forbidden love, their relationship felt so raw and real, heartbreaking and refreshing at the same time.

    • @JB-xl2jc
      @JB-xl2jc 7 месяцев назад +1

      I teared up in the moment to be sure. But when the Jesuit tells him that her primary dying wish was to ensure his safety, and the boat scene... those two got me reaaal bad.

    • @AstroSully
      @AstroSully 3 месяца назад +1

      Cosmo was brilliant

  • @peterlovett5841
    @peterlovett5841 8 месяцев назад +266

    It was brilliant. A prequel or sequel would detract from that brilliance. Let the series stand as a guide to what producers need to do in the future.

    • @BrainPilot
      @BrainPilot  8 месяцев назад +14

      That's totally fair!

    • @jmgonzales7701
      @jmgonzales7701 8 месяцев назад +5

      how about adapt other james clavell books,

    • @aquamarine99911
      @aquamarine99911 7 месяцев назад

      @@jmgonzales7701 Hah, I read them all as a teenager back in the 70s. I liked Taipan, until the ending. Not meaningful at all, the way Mariko's death was. Perhaps they could change that.

    • @allgrainbrewer10
      @allgrainbrewer10 7 месяцев назад

      @@jmgonzales7701 most of these clowns have no idea what you mean

    • @jmgonzales7701
      @jmgonzales7701 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@allgrainbrewer10 ofc they dont

  • @らら-v8c
    @らら-v8c 8 месяцев назад +337

    As a Japanese, I am grateful to this drama for introducing the feudal era of Japan to people around the world today.
    In historical fact, after the Battle of Sekigahara, peace prevailed in Japan for a while.
    However, it was a difficult time for Japanese Catholics. I recommend the movie "Silence" for its depiction of that time.

    • @aceplatini859
      @aceplatini859 8 месяцев назад +7

      The show has great costumes, sets and actors, sadly the story has a ton of set up and zero payoff.
      I don’t recommend Shogun as you’ll leave feeling dissatisfied.

    • @green_acres_7240
      @green_acres_7240 8 месяцев назад +23

      “Silence” is a very powerful film!

    • @Eskimofo13
      @Eskimofo13 8 месяцев назад

      @@aceplatini859L take.

    • @petergianakopoulos4926
      @petergianakopoulos4926 8 месяцев назад +3

      I've been to Japan I know about the feudal area. I know samurai swords can cut through 3 people tops.

    • @Avis0123
      @Avis0123 8 месяцев назад +31

      ​@@aceplatini859
      Not every story has to end in a battle sequence. The actual climax was episode 9 and episode 10 was about everything that happened after. It was emotional and beautiful. I don't know what kind of standards you have if that wasn't a payoff for you

  • @Lemon0Tart
    @Lemon0Tart 8 месяцев назад +53

    The score in Shogun was just perfect. Upon re-watching I noticed that the music in the scene of Mariko's and John's last night together before her death was the same played during his last goodbye in the boat with Fuji. What a beautiful series Shogun was.

  • @evansonhakeem
    @evansonhakeem 8 месяцев назад +97

    20 years ago I'd heard about an amazing TV show produced in the 1980's called Shogun. The production took great care of bringing Japanese culture to life. I then began reading all of James Clavell's works. From the multi-hundred page sailing adventures to the meticulous thoughts of hearing every villagers thoughts as events were unfolding.
    The new series is everything just as good as the original TV production and brings a level of quality that fully modernizes a setting from the 1600's. I got to relive my fond memories of Blackthorne and Mariko.
    There was sort of fond sadness seeing this show draw to a conclusion. Emotions are displayed in subtle manners which left capacity for my own thoughts and feelings. I remembered how much these works meant to me 20 years ago and I'm lucky to feel the appreciation I have now.

    • @josephfarrugia2350
      @josephfarrugia2350 8 месяцев назад +9

      Gratitude for sharing your beautiful thoughts & your appreciation for your literary journey over the years. The way you described is in itself so poetically nostalgic, which makes your piece so inspiring too. Well done, & a wave from tiny little Malta (Europe).

    • @001suisen4
      @001suisen4 6 месяцев назад

      Don't write lies.
      The novel by Clavell and this drama are a mass of racial prejudice against Japanese people, and there is nothing that Japanese people would call "Japanese culture".
      The "Japanese" in this drama exist only in the imagination of Westerners.
      I am Japanese, but I have never seen such a racist drama.
      To summarize, this drama is about "civilized white people going on an adventure in the Amazon jungle."
      Shogun only changes the setting from "jungle" to "Japan."
      In this drama, Japanese people are portrayed as "inferior creatures that are not human."
      The message of this drama is as follows.
      "Japanese people have no morals."
      "Japanese people are not human, they are devils."
      Not only is this drama historically inaccurate, it is a mass of lies in almost every aspect.
      Using a drama as a method to promote Japanese people as "extreme racists with no morals" is extremely abnormal, and is the true racism.
      Isn't this a self-portrait of white Christians?
      The Western critics who praise this trash drama cannot escape the criticism of being racists.
      What kind of education did the Americans who produced such a drama receive?

  • @johnl4933
    @johnl4933 8 месяцев назад +72

    The color palette was absolutely beautiful in this show compared to the 80's series. Very earthy tones and none of the bright colored kimonos. A very strong cast of characters well-acted. I think Asano Tadanobu may have made a name for himself with western film makers. Hope to see more of him.

    • @briandavion
      @briandavion 8 месяцев назад +10

      to be fair bright coloured Kimonos was proably more realistic, we tend to with our historical drama's these days go with dark earth tones when really they tended to wear fairly bright colours

    • @therecalcitrantseditionist3613
      @therecalcitrantseditionist3613 8 месяцев назад +7

      Of any thing i can criticize "modern audiences" for, it's their inability to tolerate a historical color palate in a historical drama. This show even with thr dark tones was ok. Not nearly as bad as medieval European depictions where everything is black/brown/grey leather

    • @briandavion
      @briandavion 8 месяцев назад

      @@therecalcitrantseditionist3613 I recall an old calvin and hobbes comic where Calvin's dad tells Calvin that the world was black and white, not film and photos. Sometimes I wonder if people really tink that

    • @samuraijackoff5354
      @samuraijackoff5354 8 месяцев назад

      I still wish they went for the Kurosawa style of coloring. Bright colors and skies, then the dark contrast of smoke, gunfire, bright fires and bright red blood.

    • @scratchy996
      @scratchy996 8 месяцев назад +3

      The 80s show looked more realistic. The Jesuit priests actually wore orange, to look like the Buddhist priests.
      It's a modern Hollywood trope to have earthy colors in medieval/renaissance shows, a time when people wore very colorful clothes.

  • @georgecain123
    @georgecain123 8 месяцев назад +35

    Mariko’s death was heart breaking….so final episode was just sadness with her being gone. Episode felt empty without her presence….she really was the focal point of the show; and the affection between her and blackthorne. Sort of a Japanese‘Romeo and Juliet’ tragedy. It seems even in old age, blackthorne’s heart still belonged to ‘Mariko. He thought of her dying in his arms on his deathbed while clutching a cross. It was a love story vs Mariko’s duty to Japan.

    • @dw4101
      @dw4101 8 месяцев назад +3

      They were smart not to kill her before getting almost to the end of the series

    • @Ronin.97
      @Ronin.97 4 месяца назад +2

      " It seems even in old age, blackthorne’s heart still belonged to ‘Mariko." those old age scenes of John were a dream of a dream thus the episode title. He will never return to England.

  • @BKLYN_TZU
    @BKLYN_TZU 8 месяцев назад +39

    I was privileged enough to see both versions of Shogun as a kid in 1980 and now as an adult they did a wonderful job in this retelling of this story I hope they turn the next book Tai-Pan into a mini series

    • @bjdaniels4228
      @bjdaniels4228 8 месяцев назад +2

      That would be awesome! And re-do Noble House as well!

    • @BKLYN_TZU
      @BKLYN_TZU 8 месяцев назад

      @@bjdaniels4228 that's the truth there's so much material from the Asia books series they could create new shows for the next few years

  • @johnf6861
    @johnf6861 8 месяцев назад +88

    One of the best shows I've ever seen. The ending was such an emotional journey and just perfectly in tune with the overall feeling and motif of all 10 episodes. The acting by not only the 3 main characters, but also ALL of the supporting characters (Fuji and Yabu have a special place in my heart) was at the pinnacle of the profession. Cinematography, costume design, writing. Such an epic undertaking to make this quality of a show. I am blown away by this series.

    • @darklonewolf4519
      @darklonewolf4519 8 месяцев назад +3

      It's awesome to see series like this and I wish we could see this type of quality TV more often these days, instead of the garbage fast food most shows are just offering to the audience.
      Shogun was definitely worth it and I appreciate it in all its glory !

    • @philmcclenaghan7056
      @philmcclenaghan7056 8 месяцев назад

      Lol what. Slow and so up it's own ass. Every sentence is trying to be a poem and trying to make you think it's so deep. It's embarrassing how they made the bad guys so "obvious" and broody and the good guys so "innocent". Like a child's interpretation.

    • @darklonewolf4519
      @darklonewolf4519 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@philmcclenaghan7056 I think you probably watched a different show or your attention span is on an awful level

    • @001suisen4
      @001suisen4 6 месяцев назад

      The novel by Clavell and this drama are a mass of racial prejudice against Japanese people, and there is nothing that Japanese people would call "Japanese culture".
      The "Japanese" in this drama exist only in the imagination of Westerners.
      I am Japanese, but I have never seen such a racist drama.
      To summarize, this drama is about "civilized white people going on an adventure in the Amazon jungle."
      Shogun only changes the setting from "jungle" to "Japan."
      In this drama, Japanese people are portrayed as "inferior creatures that are not human."
      The message of this drama is as follows.
      "Japanese people have no morals."
      "Japanese people are not human, they are devils."
      Not only is this drama historically inaccurate, it is a mass of lies in almost every aspect.
      Using a drama as a method to promote Japanese people as "extreme racists with no morals" is extremely abnormal, and is the true racism.
      Isn't this a self-portrait of white Christians?
      The Western critics who praise this trash drama cannot escape the criticism of being racists.
      What kind of education did the Americans who produced such a drama receive?

  • @ronin8x
    @ronin8x 8 месяцев назад +293

    "Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."
    Sun Tzu
    It was the right ending 🏆

    • @keesvandenbroek331
      @keesvandenbroek331 8 месяцев назад +5

      Maybe a small reminder to Putin?

    • @craniusdominus8234
      @craniusdominus8234 8 месяцев назад +2

      Yup, this was exactly what came to mind when I first read Shogun some two decades ago...

    • @crispford
      @crispford 8 месяцев назад

      Genghis khan begs to differ.. Guy just command and conquer

    • @McLarenMercedes
      @McLarenMercedes 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@keesvandenbroek331How do you know you got the win first and then go to war side right? It's not over yet and we shall see how this plays out. I highly doubt you have the slightest idea how that conflict began, its roots and what's at stake for who. Let's say that one side foolishly believed they would be actively helped and now have reduced themselves to cannonfodder for people who until yesterday didn't care one iota about them. It's called hypocrisy and you'll find that one more sides than that of the "enemy". Vietnam and Afghanistan proves that things don't always work out the way some assume it will. I'll tell you another historical fact: most leaders try to stall a war as long as possible by consolidating their position first, allocating resources well in advance and bargaining/bartering by coming to terms or putting their foot down. I'll tell you one thing: as despicable as Putin is he's no fool. Underestimating your opponent is the hallmark of a fool. What you wish to see is not strategic thinking.

    • @badrequest5596
      @badrequest5596 8 месяцев назад +1

      that quote also reminds me of accounts on musashi's last duel with sasaki kojiro by the beach. he managed to get kojiro enraged and unfocused by simply arriving 3 hours late and still moving with no rush. kojiro was enraged by the insult that he threw away his scabbard to ground as unsheating his sword. to musashi this meant kojiro had already lost, since throwing away his scabbard implied he would not need it and did not mean to sheath his weapon again, meaning he doubted he would survive the encounter. which he did not
      edit: kojiro was also known for using a nodachi, which is a much longer version of the standard katana, while musashi used a normal sized katana. because of the reach difference, musashi did not use his katana and instead carved a longer wooden sword out of a boat oar to match his opponents blade size and reach

  • @munkongwoo751
    @munkongwoo751 8 месяцев назад +24

    I totally agree, it is the most perfect and poetic ending for any series I have ever seen! I loved it. I love the part when Lord Toronaga released the hawk to the skies and retorted, “may you have many daughters” l realised that Mariko was like a daughter to him and his loss was deeply felt too!

  • @Bastet__0
    @Bastet__0 8 месяцев назад +22

    I ugly cried all the way to the end. The funeral was a massive public display of the respect the people had for her, and that was huge. All the families stood together for the final goodbye. Thank you Mariko-sama ❤😭

    • @tticusFinch
      @tticusFinch 8 месяцев назад

      Oh man I cried so much in this episode too.

  • @mej6519
    @mej6519 8 месяцев назад +171

    I wanted fuji to stay with blackthorne.

    • @alexlyster3459
      @alexlyster3459 8 месяцев назад +70

      That was never going to be her plan. But I think her decision to become a nun is a sign of her friendship.
      When she was first assigned to be his consort, she did so under the condition she could kill herself to be with her family afterwards.
      But she instead decides to keep on living, in large part due to the peace her time with Anjin and Mariko brought her.

    • @ZaimGamePlay
      @ZaimGamePlay 8 месяцев назад +4

      Think yes... In the end... Fuji became a nun... Cause in Japan fueral era was when you set your mind you set it there's no going back.... Fate shukumei

    • @CorePathway
      @CorePathway 8 месяцев назад +10

      Part of me too…but that would be too “Hollywood” and we loved this show because it doesn’t pull punches.

    • @ed8018
      @ed8018 8 месяцев назад +8

      Fuji was badass.

    • @davidalger5625
      @davidalger5625 8 месяцев назад +2

      That is their plan for the sequel. They set they up by releasing the hold her child and husband had on her. They should do like Halloween. Shogun 2, 3, 4... 35.

  • @MarlenePetrella
    @MarlenePetrella 8 месяцев назад +10

    For 12 hours in September of 1980, I was immersed in seventeenth century Japan and infatuated with a more mature and resourceful Dr. Kildare. Unable to let it go, I plunged into the 1000+ pages of Clavell's book. So in 2024, when I saw the trailer for this new miniseries, I was delighted. Then, as I watched each episode, I realized I had to erase the past if I was going to embrace the beauty of this version. I found it difficult to watch Blackthorn walk--a sort of lumbering next to the silken gate of Mariko and Fuji or Martin Alvito. And he never seems to get ahead of the intrigue. He is always a step behind. For me, Blackthorn was the star and in this version he was not.
    So, I cleared my mind, drank some tea, and rewatched the episodes. Their beauty is exquisite. Their subtle movements and glances matchless. By the last episode, it is clear Mariko is the main character. Her physical absence is palpable and this perfect ending makes us feel the pain each character feels remembering her.
    One thing I did miss that I was hoping would be included from the book--the pillowing discussion where Blackthorn gets very angry about them offering him a boy. When the guard suggests that he might want a duck, they hesitate to ask and he says they could just get a duck and let it walk around the room and let the Anjin use it if he wished. Hilarious! I would have loved to see that.

  • @lewesc
    @lewesc 8 месяцев назад +161

    Shogun felt more like the HBO mini series of old than current TV series.
    It's kind of nice knowing there is no season 2.

    • @CorePathway
      @CorePathway 8 месяцев назад +34

      “Hey, we have a hit! Let’s drag this out for 5 more seasons no matter how ridiculous we have to make the plot”

    • @leebarbs7176
      @leebarbs7176 8 месяцев назад +16

      That S4 Ghost Yabu arc certainly got a bit weird...

    • @davidalger5625
      @davidalger5625 8 месяцев назад +5

      Um, it is Hollywood - money always wins. It will be rushed, but it will arrive. Perhaps that is the real Crimson Sky.

    • @briandavion
      @briandavion 8 месяцев назад +5

      @@davidalger5625 no there won't be a season 2. if anything Clavells other asian saga books will happen

    • @guidoferrari5415
      @guidoferrari5415 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@leebarbs7176 Man I kinda want yabu one kenobi ghost around in season 6

  • @1chrisford
    @1chrisford 8 месяцев назад +26

    For some reason, the scene with Fuji and John Blackthorne honoring and letting go the people they cherished the most was my favorite. Fuji, played so well by Japanese actress Moeka Hoshi, was so good at showing a wonderful young woman who had suffered cruel, unbearable terrible tragedy and shaming. Fuji was an emotional center for both John and Lady Mariko. A loyal woman of high birth, education, bravery and we find - kindness.
    So happy the script had John Blackthorne doing her a great kindness in turn, the respect both had developed for one another as they gave eternal life in spirit, at least, in the burial at sea. That was the most perfect part of that perfect ending. The overarching theme of East meets West and a stranger in a strange land learning to try and grasp the mores and ways of the culture. To connect. And the boat trip of Fuji and John showed victory - how with work, very different people from very different cultures could have each others backs and build a strong relationship.
    Far better that than a CGI battle.

    • @swhitebull
      @swhitebull 8 месяцев назад +4

      And it shows that the human condition surpasses all cultures and barriers - I believe that in the end, Blackthrone and Fuji came to love each other in a different way than Blackthorne and Mariko had loved, but love nonetheless. It built on respect each earned with each other (the first inkling of this was when Fuji was injured in the fire and earthquake, and watched Blackthorne resurrect the garden stone) and then comsummated with the grief that each had endured.

  • @franug
    @franug 8 месяцев назад +11

    I was thinking about this today; this has catapulted into one of the better TV shows I've ever seen, up there with Mad Men (for me). The sole fact that it's one season instead of trying to elongate the story into more just for commercial reasons made it better, even if it's a bit sad. The character development (especially John) was top-notch, the production level was insane, the acting amazing, the subtlety of the story much appreciated...I've been recommending it to everyone!

  • @rickraw100
    @rickraw100 8 месяцев назад +31

    The battle of Sekigahara where lord Tokugawa Ieyasu was out numbered 75,000 warriors to 120,000 and still won the war to become SHOGUN.

    • @ZaimGamePlay
      @ZaimGamePlay 8 месяцев назад +3

      Make it a movie instead since we all seen the forseeing from toranaga sama. It was a chef kiss when he told yabu about it...

    • @nont18411
      @nont18411 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@ZaimGamePlay There’s already a movie in 2017 named “Sekigahara”

    • @ngyeok7511
      @ngyeok7511 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@ZaimGamePlay8

    • @Barlofontain
      @Barlofontain 8 месяцев назад +5

      Don't forget the part where a large portion of the 120,000 switch sides

    • @AstroSully
      @AstroSully 3 месяца назад

      Just as implied in the show many of those 120,000 under Ishida switched sides which played a huge role in Tokugawa (Toranaga) winning the battle.

  • @benjaminngopwaamos6878
    @benjaminngopwaamos6878 8 месяцев назад +12

    I think Yabushige's fear of death was further enabled by the curiosity that led him to boil one of John's men in the first episode. He was obsessed with understanding what a man's final moments felt like and he came to the conclusion that it meant nothing profound. I think it makes him an interesting character imo.
    It's also kinda funny how Yabushige arrived Ajiro as it's lord in the first episode, but arrived as a prisoner in the final episode.

  • @nagarajanramamurthi3429
    @nagarajanramamurthi3429 8 месяцев назад +14

    To wind up a series based on a book which is so full of events and people is not easy. The last episode really nailed it.
    For me Toranaga was the main person who orchestrated the events and was simply brilliant .

  • @christophergallagher3721
    @christophergallagher3721 8 месяцев назад +4

    6:20 - Toranaga repeats the exact words in such a way that he reveals to Yabu that he knew all about his betrayals from the very start (whether from Omi or another informant), which at least can provide some palliative consideration for Yabu that his dithering wasn't in vain. He may have failed himself, but he still proved useful to someone else.

  • @thijsfb
    @thijsfb 3 месяца назад +2

    Man i loved Yabushige. He was such an interesting character. He was hard to understand at times, but when he broke at the end, started talking gibberish and acting erratically, the lord became a scared boy, torn apart by his own regret. It was poetic seeing him sit with toranaga at his end, accepting that he is at his end.

  • @davidnewell3717
    @davidnewell3717 8 месяцев назад +8

    Agree 100% Even you brief inclusion of Fuji holding John’s hands before letting the cross fall into the water almost had me in tears again. A beautiful and emotionally resonant conclusion.

    • @BrainPilot
      @BrainPilot  8 месяцев назад

      So many moments in that final episode we're just so powerful!

  • @MusicProducerrr
    @MusicProducerrr 8 месяцев назад +47

    The battle Shogun had been building on was Mariko's battle all along..

  • @Ayoo_Sabb
    @Ayoo_Sabb 8 месяцев назад +25

    Like this if you got emotional when John said “No Translator” to Fuji 🥲

    • @BrainPilot
      @BrainPilot  8 месяцев назад +4

      The slow turn of the head as well!

    • @alanfoster6589
      @alanfoster6589 3 месяца назад

      @@BrainPilot Good direction.

  • @ICU1337
    @ICU1337 8 месяцев назад +10

    Thank you for all of these breakdowns 🙏🏽 All of them were great and this was such a great show. Now that its done I can go watch those deep dive spoiler vids you have for the real life characters 😉

    • @BrainPilot
      @BrainPilot  8 месяцев назад +3

      Glad you enjoyed! And haha, hope you enjoy them!

  • @boxtears
    @boxtears 8 месяцев назад +98

    This show rewarded viewers who paid attention throughout and disappointed those who spent most of their time on their phones. I'm glad it didn't go for the easy crowd-pleaser of a massive cgi battle, which would've been a betrayal of everything this show had been about while insulting the viewers who had been watching diligently throughout.

    • @josephfarrugia2350
      @josephfarrugia2350 8 месяцев назад +13

      Well stated. A battle scene or scenes would have been so out of place in this series that it would have ruined the whole experience. The final interaction between Yabushige & Toranaga is priceless, as is the final interaction of Blackthorne & lady Fuji.

    • @milosmilosmilos
      @milosmilosmilos 8 месяцев назад +23

      People upset that a show about chess didn't end with rocket launchers.

    • @ZaimGamePlay
      @ZaimGamePlay 8 месяцев назад +5

      The series is a love letter to me... The amazing acting, setting, deception. Mind blown 3 heart. It's amazing.

    • @raywheeler6822
      @raywheeler6822 8 месяцев назад +2

      Wrong....

    • @squirlmy
      @squirlmy 8 месяцев назад

      "Betrayal"?!?!? It would certainly be different, but I don't think it would be a betrayel. The 1980 series had a bit of battle at the end I believe, and wasn't bad at all.

  • @r.n.321
    @r.n.321 8 месяцев назад +81

    Alittle disappointed of not having a battle, none the less, this series was truly amazing.. one of the best out there. the perfection that the actors and cast did for this was totally appreciated by many fans

    • @safuwanfauzi5014
      @safuwanfauzi5014 8 месяцев назад

      no ishido fled and capture, be punish, no show blackthorne rebuild ship just like in 80s.

    • @audinionkundesu
      @audinionkundesu 8 месяцев назад +5

      I'd say this series was more of a drama & thriller-esque rather than an epic (with all the spying and manipulation). Having a big grand battle at the end actually feels forced and unbefitting the series in my opinion

    • @maxmustermann-zx9yq
      @maxmustermann-zx9yq 8 месяцев назад +9

      @@audinionkundesu look up the real history, that battle had so many plot twists, it would have totally fit

    • @teutonicAnon
      @teutonicAnon 8 месяцев назад +2

      There is no battle in the book

    • @Eskimofo13
      @Eskimofo13 8 месяцев назад

      @@maxmustermann-zx9yq The Battle of Sekigahara has no resemblance to the show. Completely different people and motives, only thing in common is the betrayal.

  • @kurremkarmerruk8718
    @kurremkarmerruk8718 8 месяцев назад +8

    I feel like Yabu isn't getting his props, but I guess he was written that way throughout the series. If I remember, in the book he goes out perfectly -- three slits to the belly (probably impossible in real life) without a sound, then decapitation, with everyone watching. The unhesitating seppuku was a nod to that in the show, and Toranaga's smile was a kind of acknowledgement of how well he died, I thought. I also vaguely remember that he planned on scheming his way through his next life to get revenge on Toranaga . . . Fun character.
    He was outclassed by Toranaga, just like everyone else, and was a competent schemer, but couldn't quite see the end game. But Toranaga did need him in Osaka for crimson sky to work. If the whisperer of assassins wasn't there, Ishido may not have killed Mariko so dishonestly, may not have even thought of it; if Yabu didn't die disgraced, Toranaga would have had to find another way to secure his troops; if Yabu hadn't been scheming with Ishido, Toranaga may not have looked weak enough, and Ishido desperate enough. He was there as the wild card, the disruptor and sower of chaos and dishonour, exactly what Toronaga needed him to be.
    So let's put some flowers on Yabushige.

  • @rKhael53
    @rKhael53 8 месяцев назад +2

    Probably one of the most clever and meaningful ways to avoid the massive production coasts of a battle. Really well-written.

    • @BrainPilot
      @BrainPilot  8 месяцев назад

      Yeah it was so well written!

  • @ashleywetherall
    @ashleywetherall 8 месяцев назад +6

    I loved the semi main character of Fuji. Moeka Hoshi was so subtle in her characterisation. It was not only a perfect show. it was also a great complementary piece to the original 1980 miniseries as by watching both we get distinct opposing views of the story. The 1980 was a western, where the 2024 took mostly the Japanese perspective.

  • @max_coast
    @max_coast 8 месяцев назад +5

    It's not what I had hoped for, but upon the 2nd viewing I'm a fan. The whole series could be called 'slow', but it never felt too slow for me. The insight and revelations each episode delivered were so solid. This ending revealed the true insight of Toranaga and in such a way made the title of Shogun so much more than a winner of battles. I applaud the series for doing its thing and doing it well. It was great.

  • @caroleappling2007
    @caroleappling2007 8 месяцев назад +46

    Just to see Toranago standing there at the end..and then to have the title Shogun, be the final shot 🤌🏽 It made me cry.
    10 across the board, this series is a masterpiece ❤️

    • @aceplatini859
      @aceplatini859 8 месяцев назад +1

      The dude was said to be a trickster and wise but by the end he was portrayed as a chancer and a coward. Whether intentional or not, these are not good qualities for the author/showrunners to impart.

    • @JackMeoff46
      @JackMeoff46 8 месяцев назад

      Toranago

    • @klaede9666
      @klaede9666 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@aceplatini859 Those were Yabushige's words and he was a simpleton. Toranaga was a very complex and subtle man and we could never truly gaze into his mind.

    • @theprofessor451
      @theprofessor451 8 месяцев назад +2

      ​​@@aceplatini859 the real character on which toranaga is based on became shogun and gave Japan nearly 250 years of peace. That's the kind of man he was. So stop your BS about him being a coward or anything, he faught in 90 battles in his lifetime. He was what Japan needed and he was best at it.

    • @Ronin.97
      @Ronin.97 4 месяца назад +1

      Idk by the end of the story I kinda hated Toranaga especially after Yabushige's final scene where he points out Toranaga is just as terrible as all of them deep down in his heart. He is just as ambitious as the rest of the regents and Ishido was right all along about Toranaga. Toranaga didn't care who he had to sacrifice to achieve his "dream". His son, Mariko, Hiromatsu and anyone else besides himself will be sacrificed.

  • @dirtbarton2174
    @dirtbarton2174 8 месяцев назад +8

    I can’t believe this show was so good. I was thinking season 2. nope. This is the first time I’ve heard about this story. It was beautiful.

    • @dw4101
      @dw4101 8 месяцев назад

      Exactly. It is perfect without a second season. They have concluded the story beautifully

  • @BlockBlender
    @BlockBlender 8 месяцев назад +37

    Man this show really hit me in the inside.

    • @BrainPilot
      @BrainPilot  8 месяцев назад +2

      It was such a powerful one!

  • @WreakHvok
    @WreakHvok 8 месяцев назад +8

    I could always use a battle but the show built enough good faith with me to finish out how it did… I would love a season 2 but only if it was just a masterpiece the same as this one.. and when you get success you lose the shimmer!! So I’m ok if it stays right here… this was absolutely the best show in media at the moment hands down

  • @ghostraptor2068
    @ghostraptor2068 8 месяцев назад +5

    Mr brain pilot take this ❤, loved your breakdown videos for shōgun

    • @BrainPilot
      @BrainPilot  8 месяцев назад

      Thanks a lot! Glad you enjoyed the videos

  • @sgtlamancha805
    @sgtlamancha805 8 месяцев назад

    Absolutely stunning front to back. Going to spend the weekend binging it to see everything I missed the first time. Can’t wait.

  • @dennisobrien2578
    @dennisobrien2578 8 месяцев назад +4

    Thank you BrainAnjinsan.

  • @johneqwest
    @johneqwest 8 месяцев назад +5

    There was no need for a big battle scene. The battle was won with Mariko's mission resulting in the strategic earthquake under Ishido's feet.
    A woman was sent to do what an army could not.

  • @jeffdege4786
    @jeffdege4786 8 месяцев назад +20

    In an odd sense, the classic Samurai Trilogy is a sequel to Shogun. Shogun ends with the march to Sekigahara. The trilogy begins with Musashi awakening after the battle.

    • @steak5599
      @steak5599 8 месяцев назад

      @NDWinnerIs I thought he was a Fictional Character, along with Sasaki Kojiro and their Duel on the beach.
      Or was it those Characters did exist, but their Story was a Fiction.

    • @Barlofontain
      @Barlofontain 8 месяцев назад

      @@steak5599 Neither the people, nor the duel are fictional

    • @Barlofontain
      @Barlofontain 8 месяцев назад +1

      I love those films, (Miyamoto Musashi played by the legendary Toshiro Mifune, who of course was Toranaga in the original Shogun TV adaptation)
      One thing I always found amusing about Musashi is that despite being undefeated in duels, he was often on the losing side of battles, including two against Tokugawa Ieyasu (the real Yoshi Toranaga)

    • @jeffdege4786
      @jeffdege4786 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@steak5599 Musashi Miyamoto was real, the duels really happened, and most of the details were fiction, from the novel "Musashi" written by Eiji Yoshikawa in the 1930s.
      Musashi became a famous artist and author, his "Go Rin No Sho (The Book of Five Rings)" is still in print.

  • @ixxirecords26
    @ixxirecords26 8 месяцев назад +1

    Currently crying while reliving that finale through this video.
    Just spectacular.

  • @scottjones4659
    @scottjones4659 8 месяцев назад +9

    Loved every moment, simply a masterpiece!

    • @BrainPilot
      @BrainPilot  8 месяцев назад

      Couldn't agree more!

  • @clumsyturtle8544
    @clumsyturtle8544 8 месяцев назад +8

    It is one of those shows you finish and you can't stop thinking about days later. It was really well done.

    • @BrainPilot
      @BrainPilot  8 месяцев назад +3

      Yeah it really is!

  • @The.ModernMan
    @The.ModernMan 8 месяцев назад +23

    I was initially disappointed with the ending, but it was mostly out of expectation of an epic battle and seeing complete resolution with characters like Ishido/Saeki.
    Upon reflection, I realized it was a perfect ending. A huge battle would have been out of place with how the entire show was and I love the end scene with Yabu where it feels like Toranaga is talking to us. It really left me with a holy shit feeling and made me reflect on all of his actions throughout the show. Like this dude wanted power the entire time and the council was right to want him gone.
    Maybe they could have managed everything with 12 episodes, but for a 10 episode series with the pacing they had, they nailed the finale.

    • @jenkins5265
      @jenkins5265 8 месяцев назад

      Yah exactly! We begin with thinking Ochiba is a villain, but by the end, I totally understand why she’s so wary of him. He was the true villain all along!

    • @The.ModernMan
      @The.ModernMan 8 месяцев назад

      Haha, oh man did she goof big time. He will be the end of her and her son.@@jenkins5265

  • @RealHumanBean4U
    @RealHumanBean4U 8 месяцев назад +1

    I just wish we could have had text of the epilogue from the book (which is like one paragraph long). The shock of not having the battle and instead getting a textbook "this many people died and Ishido suffered" was great.

  • @esanjuan212
    @esanjuan212 8 месяцев назад +5

    Perfect yes! Thank you for this

    • @BrainPilot
      @BrainPilot  8 месяцев назад +1

      Glad you like it!

  • @wandab3843
    @wandab3843 8 месяцев назад +15

    Toranaga relied on Ochiba's deep respect for Mariko. I still didn't believe she would flip sides like that especially after what she said about Toranaga. I wonder why they stayed away from the paternity of the heir?

    • @nont18411
      @nont18411 8 месяцев назад +3

      They didn’t have enough time and ran out of budget. The show should have been 13 or 16 episodes to cover all the plotlines in the book.

    • @alexc8209
      @alexc8209 8 месяцев назад +1

      Ochiba was the biggest loser in the story. She loses everything by backing Toranaga but I guess it was her love of Mariko that made her do it. I cant blame her because I fell in love with Mariko too!

    • @steak5599
      @steak5599 8 месяцев назад

      @@alexc8209 Did she lost everything though? Mariko said she did what she did was just because she is scare of Toranaga. She was Power Hungry.
      She don't want to be forced to Married to Ishido either. Once she understand Toranaga is not going to kill her and she is safe, she didn't lose anything by switching side.

    • @briandavion
      @briandavion 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@steak5599 thing is, historicly, Towagawa DID end up killing the Heir and his mother he kind of had to if he didn't want his own children to have a powerful dangerous rival

    • @steak5599
      @steak5599 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@briandavion but that was years later and the Heir got arrogant and made claim to the "throne" though.
      Had he not challenged Tokugawa, he would have lived peacefully.
      Besides, I don't think they are even Royalty, I thought Japan always had the tradition of whoever dominated the battlefield gets to be Shogun, bloodlines don't matter.
      The Emperor and Royal family are completely different thing and have no power during that period.

  • @SDarklighter
    @SDarklighter 8 месяцев назад +4

    Good time watching, been so long yet so short

  • @craigcarlson4022
    @craigcarlson4022 8 месяцев назад

    Very well described and summed up. They did a brilliant job with conveying the characters’ emotions and arc.

  • @matariello2275
    @matariello2275 3 месяца назад +3

    Yabushige, my dude, you will away be famous.

    • @BrainPilot
      @BrainPilot  2 месяца назад

      He was a great character!

  • @agnieszkadziadon1173
    @agnieszkadziadon1173 8 месяцев назад +1

    It was the best tv series for some time with a specific atmosphere, poetics and mood. beautifully presented old Japan and samurai time. so much work for us, by set designers, choreographers, costumes. wow. bravo. thank u.

  • @soulphisto79
    @soulphisto79 8 месяцев назад +3

    Let's hope that the brilliance of Shogun will bring further exploration into the rich history of Japan. I would love to see an adaptation of the Tale of the Heike, or perhaps a story centered on Minamoto no Yoshitsune, and the establishment of the Shogunate.

  • @Fabulousprofound168
    @Fabulousprofound168 5 месяцев назад +2

    It is now two months after this video was posted, and I’m seeing online that FX has greenlit two more seasons… yay?

  • @tiagomendesvisscher9030
    @tiagomendesvisscher9030 8 месяцев назад +5

    It is a perfect show and Since there is no season 2….
    “Flowers are only flowers because they fall.”
    A perfect show is just a perfect show because it has an ending.
    It’s good not to milk things out that should end

    • @angiefeldman4836
      @angiefeldman4836 2 месяца назад

      Unfortunately it's all about the money and not only will there be a season 2 there will also be a season 3!

  • @saruboss18
    @saruboss18 7 месяцев назад +4

    I loved the show but it just felt incomplete to me.
    No I don't care about the battle scene, i really don't.
    But the characters, especially blackthorne, their jorneys don't feel complete.
    I know the book ends in similar way roughly but i have read even book readers complained it felt incomplete.
    There is so much that can happen between toranoga and john.
    I know people are worried that s2 can ruin the show overall but man i want a ending that doesn't make me go "thats it?"

    • @janemarx1321
      @janemarx1321 3 месяца назад

      No intention of letting him go home. If you want a battlescene watch the old Macbeth movie.

  • @NathanBrooks-x1c
    @NathanBrooks-x1c 8 месяцев назад +5

    I stand in awe of these great artists that took this story and made it their own. It made me feel so many different emotions for these characters and it’s been a long time since I cried but this made me cry and feel and think.

  • @etoquette
    @etoquette 8 месяцев назад +1

    It was a pleasure, the 21 episodes (inclusing yours, giving us one more today). Lonely tuedays ahead...

    • @BrainPilot
      @BrainPilot  8 месяцев назад +1

      Glad you enjoyed!

  • @gkx4x
    @gkx4x 8 месяцев назад +5

    I thought that Fuji and the Anjin suddenly being such good friends was a bit weird, ofc in universe they spent months together but Fuji just got so little screentime after episode 4 that i didnt really feel like they buld that friendship. Fuji deserved more than a scene every 2-3 episodes, epspecially after they kind of teased a deeper relationship between the anjin and Fuji with that hand gesture after the earthquake. I gotta saythat Mariko and the Anjin also needed more direct romantic moments, she was hard because she had to be and im sure she knew her fate for a long time but her making out with John in episode 9 was way to sudden. I just think these small moments they had since ep 4 werent enough to show that they are still very muich in love like that

    • @swhitebull
      @swhitebull 8 месяцев назад +1

      Fuji and Anjin-san had enough moments in the book for Toranaga to suggest to Fuji that she was possibly pregnant. Fuji said she wasnt sure.

    • @gkx4x
      @gkx4x 8 месяцев назад

      @@swhitebull WHAT

    • @swhitebull
      @swhitebull 8 месяцев назад

      @@gkx4x yep. Last or 2nd last chapter of the book. Theyre discussing the end of Fuji's 6-month term as consort and where she go from there (seppeku is what she desires), and Toranaga says she has a "Bloom" in her cheeks, and asks her if she's pregnant. Anjin-san and Fuji do "pillow" earlier in the book.

    • @swhitebull
      @swhitebull 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@gkx4x Also, let it be said that in the book, Blackthorne found Fuji unattractive, but that Mariko encouraged him - out of respect for Fuji - to treat her as as consort - in ALL ways, if you get my meaning.

  • @nonexistent4177
    @nonexistent4177 8 месяцев назад +2

    I felt that the ending was great. The subtle nod from Toranaga, and the returned grin from Jack felt like he finally understood. Though, it does have me wishing for more. Likely due to how genuine and good the acting was. And the set designs, and costumes were just well done too. I feel there won't be anything quite like it for a good long while.

  • @Orixil
    @Orixil 8 месяцев назад +6

    Show don't tell.
    It leaned too heavily into telling.
    I think there was an expectation toward more of a show for the finale.
    But alas.

  • @WilliamDoyle-rb6lt
    @WilliamDoyle-rb6lt 8 месяцев назад +1

    The boat scene where Angin helps helps put her son and behind her was perfection. The way they look at each as. the camera pulls away you kind of hope she scraps the convent idea and they get something going as he obviously would like to do.

  • @artlindauer598
    @artlindauer598 8 месяцев назад +5

    Maybe if you never read the book or saw the original series, the ending wasn't bad. However, the 1980 series ending was much better and showed the cremation of Mariko-san. That was sadly missing. Somethings are better in the new and some are better in the old. Do yourself a favor, see both and read the book.

  • @robertsvoboda3508
    @robertsvoboda3508 8 месяцев назад +1

    It is a complete story, no need to fabricate a second season or a prequel.
    Great video, keep up the good work! 🙏🙌

  • @bulldogfront666
    @bulldogfront666 3 месяца назад +3

    So they’re actually doing 2 more seasons… I really hope it doesn’t go down the Game of Thrones road. Once the writers ran out of source material that show crashed and burned. What a depressing fate that would be for this masterpiece of a show.

    • @BrainPilot
      @BrainPilot  3 месяца назад

      Yeah i'm hoping it doesn't either!

  • @1337penguinman
    @1337penguinman 19 дней назад

    The fact they didn't show the battle itself was extremely significant in communicating that, in war, the actual battles themselves are often just formalities.

  • @bobobo2224
    @bobobo2224 8 месяцев назад +10

    I totally agree. Not many shows could end so perfectly.

  • @notthatgerry
    @notthatgerry 8 месяцев назад

    Truly all the chapter feels heavy, like mourning mariko, but there she is, indirectly only, but felt all the episode. Makes you think how a single event can have such importance in the present and in the future. Great show!

  • @snittykitty1
    @snittykitty1 8 месяцев назад +13

    Less is more, only one season to no full battle scene- smartly done. I feel like this will be an annual re-watch for me as a companion with Blue Eye Samurai.

  • @grailchaser
    @grailchaser 3 месяца назад +1

    Leaving out Sekigahara now leaves the door open to include it in the second season.

  • @GodSEndOMG
    @GodSEndOMG 8 месяцев назад +4

    We also have to think how the producers in 1980 would think if they had the tech we have now to make a nice battle. With modern computer we can easy make a good battle, so maybe a battle would also be good. Either way it was a good modern version of the 1980 version. Both was good.

    • @briandavion
      @briandavion 8 месяцев назад

      It was a modern version of the NOVEL. which never really described the battle eaither

  • @burnerdaughter
    @burnerdaughter 7 месяцев назад +1

    Shōgun didn't just feel like a show that only comes around every few years. It was the only show I've seen, possibly since streaming services began, that made me feel as though the writers respected my attention and were presenting me with entertainment, not begging for my engagement.

  • @billdew945
    @billdew945 8 месяцев назад +4

    Presence is most felt in Absence -Kimki

  • @MarklovesAngels
    @MarklovesAngels 8 месяцев назад +1

    After the first 2, I almost gave up on it with the changes from the book. But so happy I hung in there. A very satisfying ten episodes.
    In the end, Toranaga achieved his goal. Ruler with minimum amount of bloodshed. Whole armies survived and peace came.

  • @benroper5049
    @benroper5049 8 месяцев назад +5

    Initially I was disappointed on finding out there was no second season. I felt that the Series ended without a resolution
    However, the more i've thought about the ending, the more I liked it. We the audience really were Yabushige. The explanation of crimson sky was fantastic. Episode 9 was also called crimson sky- that confused me so much last week but makes SO much sense now
    What a tear jerker of a finale too
    Brilliant show

  • @tovpp7
    @tovpp7 8 месяцев назад

    I think in all the praise I see and all the discussion on the show, Omi’s journey/development is going under appreciated. I like the subtlety of it all. It’s no drastic change like, Blackthorne or Ochiba or Mariko. But that’s why I appreciate it sm.

  • @christopherikechukwueyidah5928
    @christopherikechukwueyidah5928 8 месяцев назад +4

    This iteration of Shogun is a masterpiece. The ending so meaningful. Made me wonder how one person can hold so many schemes in their head and execute them and win, Amazing.

  • @greenfroggood2392
    @greenfroggood2392 7 месяцев назад +1

    Yabushige wanting his dead body to feed the dogs is not because of some kind of self-hatred or something like that. Throughout the show he was always pragmatic and seemed to have disdain for useless actions. His body being buried when starving dogs are roaming around seems useless to him as it might as well feed one of those miserable suffering dogs. It's not because he cares for the dogs necessarily either. You can even argue the reason why he never fully served Toranaga unconditionally is because he didn't understand his motives or his plan. When Hiromatsu did seppuku, you can see Yabushige upset about this useless death over what he perceived to be Toranaga's irrationality.
    This is also why he needed to know Toranaga's plan/vision so much at the end. To know that his death was not useless, and that it was part of a greater plan, now he can die a good death. Toranaga understand this about Yabushige too, that's why he reveals it to him.
    It's hard to hate Yabushige even though his treason is directly linked to Mariko's death. A tragic and great character. A beautiful show indeed.

  • @RoyLimisAw3s0me
    @RoyLimisAw3s0me 3 месяца назад +3

    Season 2 & 3 is green-lit LMAO

  • @spajkilza1992
    @spajkilza1992 3 месяца назад

    4:45 for me most poetic is, that last words he heard, are the same he said when talking about future of his Daimyo - Why tell a dead man the future?

  • @mione3690
    @mione3690 8 месяцев назад +11

    I'm glad they didn't show the battle. It would have changed the vibe of the last episode.
    Also, the cgi of the reference to the battlefield was already a bit janky, so I wouln't like to know how the battle would look.🙈

    • @aa1944-k2r
      @aa1944-k2r 8 месяцев назад +1

      😂😂its a budget issue bro

    • @garvitprashar3671
      @garvitprashar3671 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@aa1944-k2r The battle was skipped in books too

    • @MustardSkaven
      @MustardSkaven 8 месяцев назад

      Seeing the aftermath or outcome would have been nice though.

    • @MustardSkaven
      @MustardSkaven 8 месяцев назад

      @@garvitprashar3671 It wasn't skipped. It was just told of briefly. The book does make it clear Toranaga wins and Ishido dies.

  • @pljarizona
    @pljarizona День назад

    I've watched the series three times now. I always cry at the end. Very engrossing and emotional show.

    • @BrainPilot
      @BrainPilot  День назад

      It's an incredible show for sure!

  • @hamersb
    @hamersb 8 месяцев назад +7

    When your scheming and strategy is so on point you avoid an entire war and still come out on top. That shows how smart toranaga was. And although a massive (cgi) battle would have been intense and entertaining. This was the better ending

    • @SAKURA_KIRAKIRA
      @SAKURA_KIRAKIRA 8 месяцев назад

      マジで本当にそう思います😊

    • @dark_winter8238
      @dark_winter8238 8 месяцев назад

      But he didn't avoid the war. The battle was the largest in feudal Japan.

    • @briandavion
      @briandavion 8 месяцев назад

      @@dark_winter8238 but... he turned it from a battle he would have lost into one he could WIN

    • @dark_winter8238
      @dark_winter8238 8 месяцев назад

      @briandavion very true. I just correcting the false take of going around that he avoided a war.

  • @athenovae
    @athenovae 8 месяцев назад +1

    9/10. I wanted to see the cannons fire one last time. Didn’t need a full episode dedicated to the battle, but show it’s start at least like the beginning of a charge. 😭

  • @grahamhill676
    @grahamhill676 8 месяцев назад +4

    Hard disagree. They set up crimson sky and a huge confrontation for finale or season 2. Its almost like theh were going to have a climax and then they just changed their mind.
    - their series intro is literally a buildup of tension ending on badass music and a samurai helm. Why have this as an intro if theres literally no confrontations?
    - The whole initial reason Toranaga recruited Blackthorne is because of his grit and determination. "Unless I win". And then the series ends without him actually being used to "win". No fleet is built. He is promoted to Hatamoto & hos reputstion is built up just to be relegated to having relationship drama instead of actually doing important stuff. His ending was whack.
    - The endings for most characters are half baked. Blackthorne doesn't fulfill his purpose, and Mariko doesn’t get avenged. Buntaro doesn't react to her death either. Toranaga tells the audience he's gonna become Shogun, rather than actually do it ob screen. The Council do literally nothing and sit there sulking.
    Every scene is set uo for Crimson Sky, for an inevitable confrontation, and they just refuse to do it. Its almost like they decided against it halfway through.

  • @curtisnt
    @curtisnt 8 месяцев назад

    I enjoyed Yabushige's demise alot. In an early episode, it was shown that he was fascinated with the moment of death. He even took notes and had poems written about death. When it finally came to his own, he saw it coming literally miles and miles away. He had written his own death poem in advance. And it was very blunt.
    a little bit ironic, fantastic show

  • @reginaldgooden3495
    @reginaldgooden3495 8 месяцев назад +6

    Toranaga was playing chess while everyone else was playing checkers! This show was superbly done in every way possible! No need for a battle because it was already won in the mind! 🎬

  • @pinkywinky911
    @pinkywinky911 6 месяцев назад +1

    The first 3 minutes of this video made me cry again 😭 I literally just finished watching Shogun last night

    • @BrainPilot
      @BrainPilot  6 месяцев назад +1

      It really is a perfect show!