I can't picture Pop EVER trading for Trae. When your own coach sends you home and publicly states he's playing video games in lieu of showing up and supporting the team, that says TONS about the player's mindset.
Spurs are in the perfect position. They sold the Hawks a bad future, pocketed their picks, and now benefits immensely regardless of what the Hawks decide.
I see Wemby's presence helping Trae more than the other way around. Trae wouldn't have the other team's best defenders on him anymore. Wemby will only be helped marginally. He's already getting tons of good looks or at least creating them. His problem is that he's an inefficient shooter. Trae won't help him there. *In the end, this will help both win more games.
@@veganpotterthevegan You said their wouldn't be much difference for wemby with him there. Trae plays pg and The plays pg so it implies that Trae and Tre are similar at least as passers. I don't know why you are acting like it isn't fair to infer that you don't think the Trae would be a big upgrade.
Tony Parker was not a plus defender either. But the other four guys on the floor were good to great defenders and within Popovich´s system they made it work. Right now only plus defenders in Spurs starting 5 are Wemby and Sochan. They would need to get two 3&D wings/forwards (I assume that Devin Vassell may have to be part of the trade)
@@japiro14 Bruh if you are you should know how awful he is. Especially man-to-man. It's been like this for 2 years. His 3D label is just theoretical at this point.
French twin towers in SA and a little PG like Trae would be epic but they're pretty much running that kinda experiment in Milwaukee RN because they got Lillard and also have two mere 7 footers in Giannis and B.Lopez. Obviously Lillard will be targeted as their weakest link on D come playoffs and so would Young be. Great 3&D's are hard to find and Bucks gave up more than they won in the 3-way trade. Despite the hassles, starting Sochan on point was much about coming to terms with small ball. As we've seen it's run its course in GSW. Running a big guy on point might just be the future of the league. Trae should be in the conversation from next year but no hasty decisions. I idealize a PG such as Scoot, someone who's really young and been humbled already, who's a + on D and built like a train with a high ape index and that plays guard like a small forward.
well not necessarily becasue SPurs dont make wild moves like this. They might have culture concerns with Trae in th elocker room that dont fit. Just saying there is connection@@chuchurasai4623
what is this crazy lane in the internet, "XY is getting blackballed". Cousins has had multiple career ending injuries, including a torn achilles and a torn ACL. He has been paid millions of dollars as a benchwarmer. He needs to be thankful every day for his career, cause he might as well have ended up being a 6'10 guy who flips burgers. Same goes for Melo. Vet minimum for a 1 year contract is already almost 2 million dollars. And yes, nobody wants to pay a 34 year old busted up Cousins 2 million dollars per year to sit on the bench.
@@Viqtor Yeah, comparing Dame to Trae is clown ass take, they aren't even close to the same level. The aren't two winning players in bad front office situations, because building a team around Trae Young is a fundamentally bad decision to begin with. Trae Young plays losing basketball, and should have NEVER been a first option on any franchise seriously trying to build winning team. Dame's career worst playoff performance, is statistically similar to Trae's career best playoff performance. Because Dame is better then Trae, at literally fucking everything. Shooting, efficiency, ball control, athletics, defense. The only thing you can even try to argue is that Trae is a better passer, until you look at the turnover rate and realize Trae's assist to turnover ratio is fucking garbage. Those are just the things Dame is undisputably a bit better at, by a small margin. Then you have Leadership, Maturity, and Basketball Intelligence, aspects of the game where Dame is literally twice the player Trae is, or ever will be.
Im sure im not the only one that was fearing ATL following the Murray trade, like thinking they had the best backcourt in the East. How wrong i was several years later!
Yeah @Corporalthoroughbredvibez never understood how it was supposed to work when you basically signed a guy that also just stands around creating no motion in the offense. They needed a guy who would run around the floor and create a fluid motion offense around Young and Murray was never that type of guy
Yes you were. lol. No one is afraid of Trae young. Period. The hawks went from a constant play off team to hey you see Trae put up 40? Yeah it only took him 60 shots to get it!
@@Jrseydevil I mean, Atlanta fans are desperate for any kind of relevance they can get. So it's understandable they are delusional about Trae Young being an player that is even worth building a team around.
@@djfjdidoskslwkhemejsjskaos74 You may be the first Hawks fan I’ve run across that was willing to admit it. Most have been defending this move start to finish. Your honesty Is refreshing. First of all, Murray is a bad logistical fit, and wasn’t a position of need for Atlanta. Considering the price they paid for him, they probably could have gotten a top quality player at any position. Then, having to trade Kevin Huerter made it worse. Second, Murray is filled with underlying anger, an anger that simultaneously fuels his success on the court, and makes him toxic off the court, in the locker room, and during volatile in-game moments. Pairing him with Trae, a highly entitled ego, is a recipe for disaster. What Trae needs is a talented player with a personality that can temper Trae, to keep him in check.
@@timskaggs3762 it sounds condescending but any hawks fan that defends that trade doesn’t understand ball, how tf are you gonna put two ball dominant PGs in the backcourt together at the same time and expect it to just work itself out… I 100% agree with you about Murray being a bad fit. At the time we needed a forward/big man who’s a great defender and could also pick and roll with Trae on the offence and then set up shooters around the duo to support them but oh well, guess it’s back to mediocrity for us now but that’s nothing new for a Hawks fan.
Spurs would be a good destination because pairing him with a defender of that height would allow compensation for his height, and Pap is going to get a great defensive team together in the next few years, and with a few more players that can compiesate for others weaknesses on the defense (may just be trey) they could be a powerhouse.
I don't know why are people panicking so hard with Trae. He's been having as much success as anyone in his draft class or afterwards. He's basically had the exact same amount of Success as Luka, more than Shai and JJJ. More than Embid,Ja, Mitchell, Fox as well
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All the years of seeing James Harden and KD messing around to get traded has made me fairly numb to the players wanting a trade but Trae definitely deserves a trade at this point.
No he doesn’t. You get multiple coaches fired and then force the team to sell its soul so you don’t have to try on defense and you think that’s deserving of a trade? lol. Man I can’t wait for the new nba fans to become adults and stop thinking like spoiled little babies
Idk if it would ever happen but Wemby Luka and Trae (Trae and Luka are cool with each other) on the same team would be pretty insane ball movement with a really high pace offense and unguardable pNr. Both wanna leave to some degree if winning or moves toward winning aren't made. It would be crazy to see.
@@ilovetweek000 we probs wait for Dallas to lose the next two seasons and pick up luka, if I had a wild guess. We have the money for either one of them like
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I'm a hawks fan, our biggest problem is MANAGMENT, we need one own to make a future plan. As of this recording, I would trade Trae and DM, and build around Jalen Johnson.
Youre not a hawks fan you’re a Trae young fan. If you were a hawks fan you’d see that a guy who gets multiple coaches fired and teammates traded all while being inefficient and playing (somehow) less then zero defense is the reason why this team went from consistently in the playoffs offs as a 4-6 seed to “fans” going hey Trae score 28 on 69 shots going 2-23 from 3!! Isn’t he so cool!!!!!!
Last night I had changed my playback speed to .75x trying to make out something on another video. I forgot about it and when I started watching this one I was like “why are you talking so slow?”😂😂
NBA Storyteller made a video back in 2018 about how he predicted the Hawks would fail building around Trae because they were envisioning him as the next Steph Curry Safe to say that video has aged like fine wine
Trae Young makes so much sense for the Spurs. I also think it makes sense for the Hawks too. The Spurs need to do this, and stop letting an ancient Pop dictate how they build this team while the Hawks can move on and build around Dejounte.
He is the least efficient player to start more than 4 games this year for Atlanta this year. He is consistently one of the highest volume shooters in the league, and he consistently has one of the lowest shooting percentages on his own damn team. That's bad. You can't say he needs help, when everyone around him is shooting better percentage. You mentioned his assists, he is also leading the NBA in turnovers, with a trash ass turnover to assist ratio. Trae Young plays losing basketball, and he will NEVER win a championship as a first option.
@@DarwinSolano-t4h Trae is leading the NBA on turnovers, and has a terrible assist to turnover ratio.. If the Spurs don't need shooting, and just need passing, then Tre Jones is already a better passer.
The Spurs are not gonna find a Trae Young in the draft this year. If the hawks are open for business. They and the Spurs should consider it. He will find Wemby and shoot your lights out if you double. I hope it happens for the offensive side or even dejounte back for the defensive side of the ball.
For everyone saying this is not how the Spurs work. Tony Parker was a below average on ball defender for his entire career. He was always the player opposing teams looked to abuse in pick and roll and post up. But it didn't matter because they were strong everywhere else on defense. Trae Young is top player in usage rate and is in the top 5 for points and assists. He doesn't need to impress a front office or coach to try to get a contract. He is confident in himself as a player. Most of the current Spurs' roster are young guys trying to put up stats to get that bag. That is why Wemby doesn't get the ball when he needs it. Young would be able to competently run the offense and provide deadly shooting and playmaking.
What people failed to realize is yeah Trae had better stats in terms of Points and Assists but look at the PERCENTAGES!!!!!!!! Curry’s rookie year was actually VASTLY better and he was more VALUABLE due to the fact that he was so efficient while Trae wasnt and STILL isn’t
I’ve been a spurs fan since 5th grade now I’m ab to be 22 if Trae comes to the spurs holy shit I swear to god I’m going to buy tickets asap and I can’t wait til they play in atx
@@Jrseydevil cuz I worked for it and plus we already fucking suck, you telling me with Trae we will have 0 wins in the middle of the season?? 😹 I can tell you are a casual and you hate it when other people could enjoy something
Gotta love it when an organization try’s to placate their “star” player and the organization gets shitted on instead of the player who got multiple coaches fired, puts up empty ineffective/inefficient stats and can’t even be bothered to try on one end of the floor. lol. Gotta love the new age of player empowerment. It’s making sports so much fun!
I have always been a hawks fans, but trying to build around Trae isn’t going to work. Trading Trae now or the offseason could possibly land you a lot of first round picks or a super star forward. He could ask to leave in a year or two. Trae pros- great facilitator Cons- small defender *team will always will be bad or mediocre on defense ---------- Next years line up Trae Kobe Onyeka Jalen *mediocre or all star caliber --------- Dejounte Kobe Onyeka Jalen *All Star or super star * in my opinion a this is a better team
Great pairing but what the f is the point of that trade. Let Wemby develop his skill and let spurs tank and get a higher pick then trade for Trae in the summer.
Good coaching counts because Trae young don't play defense. Atlanta Hawks need to trade Trey young and keep Murray because once they got rid of the Old Coach everyone didn't want to have no part of Trae Young. Atlanta Hawks did not fail Trae young Trae young failed the Atlanta Hawks
The Spurs have been my team for over 2 weeks now (I started becoming a fan of them since the evening of January 7 this year following a mostly frustrating 11 years with the Brooklyn Nets - was a fan of the Nets from Fall 2012 to January 2024). If this trade does materialize, the Spurs are gonna become even MORE scary! Wemby needs a LOT of help from teammates!
@@iceagerunner Dude forget about all that I'm SO DONE with Vaughn and the rest of the management. The Garnett-Pierce bait package changed everything for the worst. The Nets have NO FUTURE under this terrible management.
"....he physically is incapable of it..." Yeah I watched Trae Young try to stop Aaron Gordon in the paint... reminded me of watching my son's AAU Elite team playing in a tournament against a 'house team'. Mismatch doesn't come close to capturing how bad it was.
I liked the part when he was hyping up Hawks all in approach: “They made big moves like bringing in (old ass) Rajon Rondo” 3.9ppg, 2.0rpg, 3.5apg @ atl 😂
People tend to forget Hawks actually reached ECF in 2021. I feel like the front office needs to do a better job to surround Trae with top level talent. I understand that the hawks gave up way too much to get Murray. But they really need to help Trae get some real help in the offseason.
Yes, the front office is more to blame but we all KNOW what he means. It is never their fault. They will keep a terrible GM far longer than a coach or a player and will make sure the GM goes under the radar year after year until it's a completely different team and can blame everyone else again. They can rinse and repeat the cycle again constantly avoiding the real problem.
Putting Trae Young on any real contender would make them worse. High usage player with trash tier efficiency, useless without the ball in his hand, worse than useless on defense. Yeah, let's get a bunch of good players stand around and watch Trae jack up 20 shots a game, 10 of which are just terrible decisions.
@@DarwinSolano-t4h Sorry, you don't like cold hard facts and want to live in a delusional fantasy, where Trae Young will ever be contending for a Championship.
He went to a team that had just spent like 10 years in the play offs. But yeah. He needs to be on a contender. So he can score 28 on 68 shots. Yup. Sound logic right there friend
So long as he never comes to Miami - Trae Young reminds me too much of Johnny Manziel, buying into his own hype but never following through. He can't inspire the locker room, doesn't follow coaching schemes and REFUSES to play defense. Talent only goes so far, if you're playing video games while your team is playing basketball games then that tells us everything we need to know about your character makeup and dedication to the game
Saying Deandre Hunter was the reach when everyone at the time called Garland the reach is very revisionist history, also drafting Garland when you already have an undersized guard that struggled on D makes no sense
Sad part on wemby at times it feels like his teammates are trying to mess up this man’s rookie of the year. Hope if trae comes vassell will take a seat lol
@@TuMadreee Jalen's missed almost half the season. The team is missing something, but they're better than their record. No way the Hawks trade Ice Trae. Best Hawk since Nique, all the chatter is coming from outside the house.
@TuMadreee They're still young. All 3 have a high ceiling, they just need another defensive piece. They can trade for that. It's a mistake to blow this team up.
How exactly should the hawks front office surround Trae with a good supporting cast? Analysts like to blame, but they rarely make viable trades and signings on how the team will be better.
The organization can’t make the team better around Trae because Trae is the reason the team sucks. You sell your soul to make one dude happy and then you’re upset that it didn’t work out in anyone’s favor but the dude you sold your soul for. lol. It’s not a hard concept ready. First. Your star player isn’t the gm, don’t let him run your team. Second. If the star player can’t play defense he’s not a star. He’s a spark who should be seeing 20-25 minutes a game making 12 mill a year. Not starting every game making almost 40 mil. Third if that star player who can’t play defense wants to cry like a baby because he doesn’t like that the coach wouldn’t let him start after misssing practice then you fine that bitch and bench him for two more games. And you continue to do that until he either retires or realizes that he is not the team. He is a member of the team. If all that fails then you cut the dead weight and don’t have to worry about him anymore. Super. Fucking. Simple.
Believe it or not Trae got more Playoffs success than Embid
Making the 3rd isn’t a championship
@@HoopEnthusiastswho said it was?
😂😂 facts
@@HoopEnthusiasts3rd round > 2nd round
@@HoopEnthusiastsneither is making the 2nd
Trae and Wemby would be an awesome duo!!! Also Trae could probably help develop Tre Jones's game.
LOL! The last thing Tre Jones needs is Trae Young’s mentorship.
Trae is an awful fit in San Antonio
@@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812how…
I can't picture Pop EVER trading for Trae. When your own coach sends you home and publicly states he's playing video games in lieu of showing up and supporting the team, that says TONS about the player's mindset.
@@JKLauderdale couldn’t agree more. Not a “Spursy” mindset at all.
Spurs are in the perfect position. They sold the Hawks a bad future, pocketed their picks, and now benefits immensely regardless of what the Hawks decide.
Spurs have plenty of First and Second round picks. You never know 🤷🏽♂️
Yes sir 😎
Trae and Wemby will be a deadly combo no doubt. Trae is the type of PG that make bigs around him better
I see Wemby's presence helping Trae more than the other way around. Trae wouldn't have the other team's best defenders on him anymore. Wemby will only be helped marginally. He's already getting tons of good looks or at least creating them. His problem is that he's an inefficient shooter. Trae won't help him there.
*In the end, this will help both win more games.
They would definitely be deadly & also could attract more talent there
@@veganpottertheveganyou are wild if you are telling me that Trae Young wouldn’t be a massive upgrade at pg over tre jones
@@r.lr.l did I say Trae isn't an upgrade? Wild that you can't read
@@veganpotterthevegan You said their wouldn't be much difference for wemby with him there. Trae plays pg and The plays pg so it implies that Trae and Tre are similar at least as passers. I don't know why you are acting like it isn't fair to infer that you don't think the Trae would be a big upgrade.
I’d like to see them team up just for the size discrepancy. 😂
Tre Jones (the Spurs PG) is also 6'1 as Trae Young.
@@aspleen1102 every team has a shorter player, but as a star duo would be quite entertaining.
@@nintendoconvert4045Embiid and Maxey, big bro and little bro.
@@WARnTEA ah good one! Maxey is like 6’2” though and Wemby has 3-4 inches on Embiid. The differential is a little greater with a Trae and Wemby duo.
@@nintendoconvert4045you’re just saying stuff at this point.
"Trae is flirting with Wemby"" LMAO!
Big pause lol
If you remember that KD incident, then you know he likes 'em tall 👀
@@T1OracleWHAT
I heard that Trae was a spurs fan growing up, so yeah that would be a childhood dream of both Wemby and Trae if they can win it big in SA
Jogadores internacionais + Jogadores americanos que gostam de san antonio e torcem para spurs .
Sinal , de conquistas.
Tony Parker was not a plus defender either. But the other four guys on the floor were good to great defenders and within Popovich´s system they made it work. Right now only plus defenders in Spurs starting 5 are Wemby and Sochan. They would need to get two 3&D wings/forwards (I assume that Devin Vassell may have to be part of the trade)
Devin is a great defender too. What u talking about
@@japiro14he's awful. Coming from a Spurs fan. He hasn't the tried in 2 seasons now that he has a bigger offensive load.
@@gremcilia_immermurin what?? Im a spurs fan too buddy
@@japiro14 Bruh if you are you should know how awful he is. Especially man-to-man. It's been like this for 2 years. His 3D label is just theoretical at this point.
French twin towers in SA and a little PG like Trae would be epic but they're pretty much running that kinda experiment in Milwaukee RN because they got Lillard and also have two mere 7 footers in Giannis and B.Lopez. Obviously Lillard will be targeted as their weakest link on D come playoffs and so would Young be. Great 3&D's are hard to find and Bucks gave up more than they won in the 3-way trade. Despite the hassles, starting Sochan on point was much about coming to terms with small ball. As we've seen it's run its course in GSW. Running a big guy on point might just be the future of the league. Trae should be in the conversation from next year but no hasty decisions. I idealize a PG such as Scoot, someone who's really young and been humbled already, who's a + on D and built like a train with a high ape index and that plays guard like a small forward.
Hawks rumours always going crazy
Hilarious username 😂🤣
I’m a hawks fan but even I recognize Traes respect for Wemby. I’ve seen it a few times in the last year. They would be so deadly together.
You smart, some of these hawks fans in denial. If you a real fan you want to see Trae happy and win and now cus he deserves it. His times up in the A
If this happens it’s some 4D chess by the Spurs. Fun fact as well Trae young’s trainer also trains Wemby
really? so this rumors might be true.
well not necessarily becasue SPurs dont make wild moves like this. They might have culture concerns with Trae in th elocker room that dont fit. Just saying there is connection@@chuchurasai4623
Trae going to San Antonio would be the best decission of his carreer
as bad as a defender he is, im more interested to get him than getting back dejounte murray.
Spurs wouldn't want him. Doesn't fit the team philosophy/approach to basketball.
Cousins out of the league is actually unbelievable, cmon. From a superstar to no space for him
He’s had opportunities there’s a reason he’s not playing in the league.
To be fair he had multiple opportunities
he’s had chance after chance, it’s more than believable
what is this crazy lane in the internet, "XY is getting blackballed". Cousins has had multiple career ending injuries, including a torn achilles and a torn ACL. He has been paid millions of dollars as a benchwarmer. He needs to be thankful every day for his career, cause he might as well have ended up being a 6'10 guy who flips burgers. Same goes for Melo. Vet minimum for a 1 year contract is already almost 2 million dollars. And yes, nobody wants to pay a 34 year old busted up Cousins 2 million dollars per year to sit on the bench.
He's a locker room cancer and a horrible teammate
Trae knows d*mn well playing with Wemby would be his ticket to the hall of fame. 😆
Trae is the new lilliard. Great player with a front office completely incapable of building around them.
They've missed so much.
That's disrespectful to Lillard.
And overrated af
@@mitchtherevolutiondisrespectful to Bubble MVP Lillard?
@@Viqtor
Yeah, comparing Dame to Trae is clown ass take, they aren't even close to the same level.
The aren't two winning players in bad front office situations, because building a team around Trae Young is a fundamentally bad decision to begin with.
Trae Young plays losing basketball, and should have NEVER been a first option on any franchise seriously trying to build winning team.
Dame's career worst playoff performance, is statistically similar to Trae's career best playoff performance.
Because Dame is better then Trae, at literally fucking everything.
Shooting, efficiency, ball control, athletics, defense.
The only thing you can even try to argue is that Trae is a better passer, until you look at the turnover rate and realize Trae's assist to turnover ratio is fucking garbage.
Those are just the things Dame is undisputably a bit better at, by a small margin.
Then you have Leadership, Maturity, and Basketball Intelligence, aspects of the game where Dame is literally twice the player Trae is, or ever will be.
Thanks for that promotional progress bar, so I can just spam that 10 sec fast forward 😂.
Lol that ad transition caught me so off guard lmao
Im sure im not the only one that was fearing ATL following the Murray trade, like thinking they had the best backcourt in the East. How wrong i was several years later!
Yeah @Corporalthoroughbredvibez never understood how it was supposed to work when you basically signed a guy that also just stands around creating no motion in the offense. They needed a guy who would run around the floor and create a fluid motion offense around Young and Murray was never that type of guy
I have been critical of Trae's hype his whole career.
"Several years later" bro it's been like 16 months. It's not even 2 years yet
Yes you were. lol. No one is afraid of Trae young. Period. The hawks went from a constant play off team to hey you see Trae put up 40? Yeah it only took him 60 shots to get it!
@@Jrseydevil
I mean, Atlanta fans are desperate for any kind of relevance they can get.
So it's understandable they are delusional about Trae Young being an player that is even worth building a team around.
bro this thumbnail is outta pocket 😭
The Hawks are anchored by PGS that weigh 164 and (6’5) 185. No wonder they can’t stop anyone on defense.
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As a hawks fan seeing them trade for Dejounte was such a frustrating moment
@@djfjdidoskslwkhemejsjskaos74 You may be the first Hawks fan I’ve run across that was willing to admit it. Most have been defending this move start to finish. Your honesty
Is refreshing.
First of all, Murray is a bad logistical fit, and wasn’t a position of need for Atlanta. Considering the price they paid for him, they probably could have gotten a top quality player at any position. Then, having to trade Kevin Huerter made it worse.
Second, Murray is filled with underlying anger, an anger that simultaneously fuels his success on the court, and makes him toxic off the court, in the locker room, and during volatile in-game moments. Pairing him with Trae, a highly entitled ego, is a recipe for disaster.
What Trae needs is a talented player with a personality that can temper Trae, to keep him in check.
@@timskaggs3762 it sounds condescending but any hawks fan that defends that trade doesn’t understand ball, how tf are you gonna put two ball dominant PGs in the backcourt together at the same time and expect it to just work itself out… I 100% agree with you about Murray being a bad fit. At the time we needed a forward/big man who’s a great defender and could also pick and roll with Trae on the offence and then set up shooters around the duo to support them but oh well, guess it’s back to mediocrity for us now but that’s nothing new for a Hawks fan.
As a hawks fan, you saying “But if THIS trade doesn’t work, and it WONT” hurt me but it’s like a 92% chance you’re right so
Spurs would be a good destination because pairing him with a defender of that height would allow compensation for his height, and Pap is going to get a great defensive team together in the next few years, and with a few more players that can compiesate for others weaknesses on the defense (may just be trey) they could be a powerhouse.
I don't know why are people panicking so hard with Trae. He's been having as much success as anyone in his draft class or afterwards. He's basically had the exact same amount of Success as Luka, more than Shai and JJJ. More than Embid,Ja, Mitchell, Fox as well
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All the years of seeing James Harden and KD messing around to get traded has made me fairly numb to the players wanting a trade but Trae definitely deserves a trade at this point.
No he doesn’t. You get multiple coaches fired and then force the team to sell its soul so you don’t have to try on defense and you think that’s deserving of a trade? lol. Man I can’t wait for the new nba fans to become adults and stop thinking like spoiled little babies
Idk if it would ever happen but Wemby Luka and Trae (Trae and Luka are cool with each other) on the same team would be pretty insane ball movement with a really high pace offense and unguardable pNr.
Both wanna leave to some degree if winning or moves toward winning aren't made. It would be crazy to see.
wemby luka trae with two athletic forwards is tuff
luka is a bona fide superstar at this point im assuming he's extremely expensive. i dont think the spurs have enough to sign both luka AND trae young
@@ilovetweek000 we probs wait for Dallas to lose the next two seasons and pick up luka, if I had a wild guess. We have the money for either one of them like
nah, Tony Parker can get steals but he aint 1st 2nd or 3rd team defense. Trae can be that player in SA too.
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Trae would average 15+ assists a game with Wemby.
20 + assist
That was an excellent breakdown! People now prefer Independent NBA RUclips Journalism than ESPN.
I feel like Trae’s liabilities on defense would be made up for with wembanyama
Concordo , fora que spurs, pode draftar 1 jogador altura 7'1 .
2 jogadores + 7 ' pés
Resolveria o problema defensivo do young
And so should they be. Trae Young at point on Spurs feeding Wemby will be so lit 🔥
Probably be the best "Guard/ Center of All Time."
Not even close
Fundamentals: A Big, A Guard! Defense; then build around that everything else, equals Championships!
A good Coach too is probably the secret component and a good Organization, The Rest is History👍🏿✨✨✨✨✨✨✨💫.
Man hawks rumors are always crazy , it’s not the first time .
I guess they’ll trade Trae young to San Antonio ?
Wemby, Trae, and Sochan would be a good foundation for a new big 3 for the Spurs
Sochan is hindering Wemby he will get traded soon
Sochan is not gonna be apart of it
Did u watch any of their last few games?@@TonyTee104
@@TonyTee104 you dont get it, the sochan experiment is for the future. Pop wants him to be diaw like player.
this guys who are constantly trashing sochan dont watch spurs full games, its pretty apparent that wemby and sochan started to build their chemistry.
I'm a hawks fan, our biggest problem is MANAGMENT, we need one own to make a future plan. As of this recording, I would trade Trae and DM, and build around Jalen Johnson.
Jalen is good but he needs trae to be great. Jalen cannot be the #1 option
no he is the build around, number 1 will come later, with picks or cap space@@tyler8918
Youre not a hawks fan you’re a Trae young fan. If you were a hawks fan you’d see that a guy who gets multiple coaches fired and teammates traded all while being inefficient and playing (somehow) less then zero defense is the reason why this team went from consistently in the playoffs offs as a 4-6 seed to “fans” going hey Trae score 28 on 69 shots going 2-23 from 3!! Isn’t he so cool!!!!!!
Im from australia and huge brooklyn fan!!!
Last night I had changed my playback speed to .75x trying to make out something on another video. I forgot about it and when I started watching this one I was like “why are you talking so slow?”😂😂
I've been saying trae to spurs would be so sick !!! hopefully this happens
NBA Storyteller made a video back in 2018 about how he predicted the Hawks would fail building around Trae because they were envisioning him as the next Steph Curry
Safe to say that video has aged like fine wine
A pick en roll of Wemby and Trae would be awesome .
Trae Young makes so much sense for the Spurs. I also think it makes sense for the Hawks too. The Spurs need to do this, and stop letting an ancient Pop dictate how they build this team while the Hawks can move on and build around Dejounte.
Definitely an interesting pairing for sure. Trae needs good defensive players
Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍
i live in atlanta, theres zero discussion like this taking place.
it’s about time honestly, Trae young leaving would be good for him and also give Sharife cooper a chance to play and show what he can do.
I swear Trae is overhated he is top 3 pg in the league leading in assists averaging above 28 pts and people say he is overrated
He is the least efficient player to start more than 4 games this year for Atlanta this year.
He is consistently one of the highest volume shooters in the league, and he consistently has one of the lowest shooting percentages on his own damn team.
That's bad.
You can't say he needs help, when everyone around him is shooting better percentage.
You mentioned his assists, he is also leading the NBA in turnovers, with a trash ass turnover to assist ratio.
Trae Young plays losing basketball, and he will NEVER win a championship as a first option.
@@mitchtherevolution exactly. Trae is second to wemby. And all he needs to do in spurs is get the ball to wemby.
@@DarwinSolano-t4h
Trae is leading the NBA on turnovers, and has a terrible assist to turnover ratio..
If the Spurs don't need shooting, and just need passing, then Tre Jones is already a better passer.
The Spurs are not gonna find a Trae Young in the draft this year. If the hawks are open for business. They and the Spurs should consider it. He will find Wemby and shoot your lights out if you double. I hope it happens for the offensive side or even dejounte back for the defensive side of the ball.
Trae said somewhere if I remember correctly that he was a Spurs fan growing up
For everyone saying this is not how the Spurs work. Tony Parker was a below average on ball defender for his entire career. He was always the player opposing teams looked to abuse in pick and roll and post up. But it didn't matter because they were strong everywhere else on defense.
Trae Young is top player in usage rate and is in the top 5 for points and assists. He doesn't need to impress a front office or coach to try to get a contract. He is confident in himself as a player. Most of the current Spurs' roster are young guys trying to put up stats to get that bag. That is why Wemby doesn't get the ball when he needs it. Young would be able to competently run the offense and provide deadly shooting and playmaking.
Imagine how many times Trae and Wemby are going to shut down arenas. What an evil duo and I'm excited for the possibility.
What people failed to realize is yeah Trae had better stats in terms of Points and Assists but look at the PERCENTAGES!!!!!!!! Curry’s rookie year was actually VASTLY better and he was more VALUABLE due to the fact that he was so efficient while Trae wasnt and STILL isn’t
I’ve been a spurs fan since 5th grade now I’m ab to be 22 if Trae comes to the spurs holy shit I swear to god I’m going to buy tickets asap and I can’t wait til they play in atx
Why would you pay money to watch an overpaid cry baby cost your team wins? That seems kinda silly doesn’t it?
@@Jrseydevil cuz I worked for it and plus we already fucking suck, you telling me with Trae we will have 0 wins in the middle of the season?? 😹 I can tell you are a casual and you hate it when other people could enjoy something
Gotta love it when an organization try’s to placate their “star” player and the organization gets shitted on instead of the player who got multiple coaches fired, puts up empty ineffective/inefficient stats and can’t even be bothered to try on one end of the floor. lol. Gotta love the new age of player empowerment. It’s making sports so much fun!
Trae and Wemby would be scary. Inside and out, you are never gonna be safe. The return of Kobe Shaq combo
I have always been a hawks fans, but trying to build around Trae isn’t going to work. Trading Trae now or the offseason could possibly land you a lot of first round picks or a super star forward. He could ask to leave in a year or two.
Trae pros- great facilitator
Cons- small defender
*team will always will be bad or mediocre on defense
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Next years line up
Trae
Kobe
Onyeka
Jalen
*mediocre or all star caliber
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Dejounte
Kobe
Onyeka
Jalen
*All Star or super star
* in my opinion a this is a better team
Great pairing but what the f is the point of that trade. Let Wemby develop his skill and let spurs tank and get a higher pick then trade for Trae in the summer.
Good coaching counts because Trae young don't play defense. Atlanta Hawks need to trade Trey young and keep Murray because once they got rid of the Old Coach everyone didn't want to have no part of Trae Young. Atlanta Hawks did not fail Trae young Trae young failed the Atlanta Hawks
I hate these titles "The Trae Young Rumors are Actually 100% Legit". Nothing is 100% Legit until the trade actually happens
Get some reading comprehension
What guard wouldn’t wanna play with a 7’4 who can do everything
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The Spurs have been my team for over 2 weeks now (I started becoming a fan of them since the evening of January 7 this year following a mostly frustrating 11 years with the Brooklyn Nets - was a fan of the Nets from Fall 2012 to January 2024). If this trade does materialize, the Spurs are gonna become even MORE scary! Wemby needs a LOT of help from teammates!
bro you can't just switch teams 😂😂
@@iceagerunner Dude forget about all that I'm SO DONE with Vaughn and the rest of the management. The Garnett-Pierce bait package changed everything for the worst. The Nets have NO FUTURE under this terrible management.
@@iceagerunner why not?
@@dakota8381 Because Vaughn is INCAPABLE of operating the lineup efficiently during crunch time. Tonight demonstrated a PERFECT example of that.
I get switching team from the Nets when they're terrible but why choose the Spurs 😂. Wemby is nice but we're horrible this year
The duo we would love to see.
"....he physically is incapable of it..." Yeah I watched Trae Young try to stop Aaron Gordon in the paint... reminded me of watching my son's AAU Elite team playing in a tournament against a 'house team'. Mismatch doesn't come close to capturing how bad it was.
Im glad the hawks are open to trading trae. Thats the only way they can save the franchise
I liked the part when he was hyping up Hawks all in approach:
“They made big moves like bringing in (old ass) Rajon Rondo”
3.9ppg, 2.0rpg, 3.5apg @ atl 😂
here I am again, hoping for something big to happen. Players were always link to the spurs but trade never happen
nobody wants to play on my spurs man, the only big FA signing we got is LMA, and the ones who want to get rings when we still have the big 3.
People tend to forget Hawks actually reached ECF in 2021. I feel like the front office needs to do a better job to surround Trae with top level talent. I understand that the hawks gave up way too much to get Murray. But they really need to help Trae get some real help in the offseason.
Trae young and Vic would be tuff pls do it
that ref change the course of the nba timeline when he injured trae
Facts! Trae had the series to a game 6 in the end and could have very well had a GREAT chance of making it a game 7 if he weren't playing injured 🤦🏽♂
Yes, the front office is more to blame but we all KNOW what he means. It is never their fault. They will keep a terrible GM far longer than a coach or a player and will make sure the GM goes under the radar year after year until it's a completely different team and can blame everyone else again. They can rinse and repeat the cycle again constantly avoiding the real problem.
rookieranking please
31st ❤❤❤
I just want to see Trae on a team that has the pieces to contend.
Putting Trae Young on any real contender would make them worse.
High usage player with trash tier efficiency, useless without the ball in his hand, worse than useless on defense.
Yeah, let's get a bunch of good players stand around and watch Trae jack up 20 shots a game, 10 of which are just terrible decisions.
@@mitchtherevolution hater
@@DarwinSolano-t4h
Sorry, you don't like cold hard facts and want to live in a delusional fantasy, where Trae Young will ever be contending for a Championship.
He went to a team that had just spent like 10 years in the play offs. But yeah. He needs to be on a contender. So he can score 28 on 68 shots. Yup. Sound logic right there friend
The thumbnail is wild
the biggest team we ever made was giving up Luka for a "culture fit".... makes no sense, we drafted and instantly gave up a future HOF'er....
As a hawks fan and no this better not be true
So long as he never comes to Miami - Trae Young reminds me too much of Johnny Manziel, buying into his own hype but never following through. He can't inspire the locker room, doesn't follow coaching schemes and REFUSES to play defense. Talent only goes so far, if you're playing video games while your team is playing basketball games then that tells us everything we need to know about your character makeup and dedication to the game
Can U do thing like about Porzigis and Bertans trade? Who will win 🏆 first from Latvia?
Trae and Victor ? Well... 🤩🤯
Saying Deandre Hunter was the reach when everyone at the time called Garland the reach is very revisionist history, also drafting Garland when you already have an undersized guard that struggled on D makes no sense
What about the Warriors?
I would love to see Young on the Spurs
This literally was the first trade I did in my MyNBA Spurs run 😭😭😭
Which is why you never win.
Don't you mean that Trey would be The Tony Parker to Wemby's Tim Duncan?
Sad part on wemby at times it feels like his teammates are trying to mess up this man’s rookie of the year. Hope if trae comes vassell will take a seat lol
Trae helping Spurs get a higher pick with Hawks 1st rounder this year, all part of the long term plan.
The ben simmons pass is still hilarious
“If our star was healthy we should have one” AMHOOPs quoting fans. Gianni’s was hurt too bud
Tre can be like Tony Parker who wasn’t all that at defense but held his own
The Hawks have such a great young team. Murray, Trae, & Jalen, plus Capela for rebounds & D.
Record doesn’t say so😂😂😂
@@TuMadreee Jalen's missed almost half the season. The team is missing something, but they're better than their record. No way the Hawks trade Ice Trae. Best Hawk since Nique, all the chatter is coming from outside the house.
@TuMadreee They're still young. All 3 have a high ceiling, they just need another defensive piece. They can trade for that. It's a mistake to blow this team up.
Even as a atlien and hawks fan I would wanna see this trae and wemby sounds awesome
Believe it or not 1st unit trae,vassel,jochan,collins,wemby 2nd unit branham, kj,champagne,trae,capela
Soooo will they release the minutes restriction 9n Wemby next year? And give him a good PG
I wouldn't mind a Trae and Wemby team up. It would be such a fun duo.
How exactly should the hawks front office surround Trae with a good supporting cast? Analysts like to blame, but they rarely make viable trades and signings on how the team will be better.
The organization can’t make the team better around Trae because Trae is the reason the team sucks. You sell your soul to make one dude happy and then you’re upset that it didn’t work out in anyone’s favor but the dude you sold your soul for. lol. It’s not a hard concept ready. First. Your star player isn’t the gm, don’t let him run your team. Second. If the star player can’t play defense he’s not a star. He’s a spark who should be seeing 20-25 minutes a game making 12 mill a year. Not starting every game making almost 40 mil. Third if that star player who can’t play defense wants to cry like a baby because he doesn’t like that the coach wouldn’t let him start after misssing practice then you fine that bitch and bench him for two more games. And you continue to do that until he either retires or realizes that he is not the team. He is a member of the team. If all that fails then you cut the dead weight and don’t have to worry about him anymore. Super. Fucking. Simple.
demarcus cousins is spot on the franchise isn’t worried about contending just profit margins
Trae doesn't even have to get on his knees to make Wemby happy 😂
A good trade for the Spurs. He is still young.
It’s difficult being an Atlanta native 🥲
Ngl Trae would be a good pick up for them but imo the spurs are not gone beat teams like okc with tough physical guards with Trae as their pg
that would be a great series with them in okc
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