I can’t understand why the Mavericks have betting odds. We literally have no place for him. He can’t catch and shoot, and he’d be taking the ball out of Kyrie and Luka’s hands… Plus, he’s bad at defense and he’s small. Atrocious fit
I agree on this. Trae is too much of a big persona to have Greg be able to put him in line. HOWEVER, Greg is the very right person if you were to aim and put Trae in a new light with good discipline.
@@cams9531 I believe it just from how he played on the court, he however wasn’t making big contract money like Trae is. I believe that to also affect how resistant someone is to change in a new setting.
Everyone is tradeable. The fact that Westbrook, Wall, Beal, and Bertanz all got traded with ridiculously bad contracts just shows everyone can be traded.
@@doingyourmothers -- Westbrook is worth well above his current contract value. Westbrook may be one of the best values in the entire league currently. I was speaking of his previous deal.
@@waynehill1191 -- I know you are responding to the comment, but the video is saying Young is too hard to trade. It isn't because he is too good like Jokic or Wembanyama. If Jokic or Wemby were ever put on the trade block every team would make an offer. This isn't about should or should you not trade. They are "untradeable" because it would be stupid to trade them not because it is impossible. My team is the Sixers. Tobias Harris just finished game 6 versus the Knicks with 0 points. What people don't know if they aren't Sixers fans is that Harris is making $40 mil this year. 2nd highest paid on the team. Couldn't make a deal for him for past 2 years. Now in this last year when he became an expiring contract, teams were willing to make offers because an expiring deal is worth something no matter how bad a player is playing at the time.
@@emilfrederiksen.1622that’s what I’m saying, why tf would the spurs move those picks back when they could be more all nba talent? As a spurs fan I’m not sweating the noise, no way they do it
@@MaximusR93 They don't need to do anything but wait for another season and they have all the flexibility. If they don't want to draft a guy, they still have the option to trade for Trae, or another Hawks guy, or any other all-star that might become available over the next year. On draft night next year they will have all the leverage and flexibility
@@Joyvzneven if that’s true in what world would you want Kyrie, Trae and Luka as a trio. Makes zero sense whatsoever. Trae is a terrible off ball player and there’s no chance the Mavs are taking the ball out of Luka and Irving’s hands
As a Spurs fan and San Antonio native, its tempting to want Trae young. He has not been surrounded by great talent and I do give him the benefit of the doubt (hey to each their own). But looking at the team currently constructed and other teams salavating at the Hawks best talent which is comprised of just Trae and Murray, I REALLY want us to hold off on going in on a trade for Trae (and they will not trade for young, it was reported). If either one of these dudes is traded in the off season it seals a top 3 pick for the Spurs. The Hawks are screwed because of the trade the Spurs offered to the Hawks that they took. It will be sooo hard for Hawks fans to watch their team give SA their top pick in next years draft for a dude (Murray, who probably wont even be on the team on draft night), and put him right beside Victor Wembenyama. And the Hawks will have NOTHING to show for their horrible season!
Murray yells at him every time murray does something wrong, coaches don’t know how to coach, he passes the ball all the time and it is still his fault, leave Trae go to the spurs pls
@@blablablaa14bro Trae is a good spacing pg . He can shoot from anywhere off his own dribble you don’t need him to catch and shoot you need him too keep the defense honest at the 3 and let wemby work the interior. It’s his defense that would be subject but if curry can win ,Trae can. He needs a good coach and system
Trae to the spurs makes some sense fit wise and trade wise with those draft picks. I don't think there's a single player in the nba available that can be paired with dejounte and make the hawks a contender. It makes more sense just to rebuild and get as many young players and assets as possible. Trade both Trae and dejounte
It does not make Sense Trae Young is a diva an awful defender a inconsistent shooter a turn over machine plus he throws his coaches under the bus he is literally anti spurs.
re-tooling without their own firsts in '25 and '27 with a pick-swap in '26. So, being bad only helps San Antonio, but not Atlanta. You would have to waist three years
They do not need perimeter defense. Their perimeter defense only sucks when Trae is on the floor. So by trading Trae you automatically improve your perimeter d
Any Pelicans' deal is not including BI. CJ + sophomore Hawkins + the better of their two firsts in both 2025 and 2027 (top-4 protected) would get the job done, but that doesn't line up with the Pelicans' MO.
@@marcel3942 Not really cause Hawks have to move on and Trae's value isn't that high. Also Hawkins is not bad at all and can play the two, while they can trade CJ to the Lakers or some desperate contender for a first round pick too. So overall it works for both teams. Trae's deal is really bad especially when you consider he hasn't had a good season in 3 years and is still a max guy. I actually think the Pels might not do it cause A they are a cheap organization, never paid luxury tax and B they like to play zion as their PG and its been their best lineup, so bringing in Trae might not work if Zion can't get the ball and becomes more of a pick and roller (which isn't his strong suit)
I might be in the minority, but Trae feels like a bad fit on the Spurs to me. Yes, he is an excellent passer and might unlock a next level Wemby lob threat, but he's also ball dominant, and heavily offensive-oriented compared to defense. I think the Spurs would be better served developing through internal growth of their young core, the draft, and smaller trades, rather than sacrificing their draft picks and other assets for a long-shot bet on a "win-now" move for a disgruntled flawed "basically untradeable" star.
I think a slight majority want Trae on the Spurs, but you're right it's a terrible idea for the reasons you listed and more. The Hawk's picks are way more valuable.
@@michaeltucker5881 I believe 2025 and 2027 are both unprotected. And the way things are going it looks like the Spurs will have a better record in 2026, which is the year of the swap.
I know this is off-topic, but why is nobody talking about the magic? They are a team ready to fully unleash and I think you could see a big trade for them. I want to see what Kasey has to see about this.
Spurs aren’t trading for young or Murray. They’re absolutely keeping those 3 1sts. Such a great position. Sorry hawks fans, I don’t enjoy rooting for your demise but it is what it is.
I'm absolutely rooting for their demise with how they're expecting us to take their defensive liability. In order to save their sinking ship. They can go f -k themselves.
I definitely think the spurs should do that trade. What are the chances that any of those picks end up as good as trae? Especially when considering his fit offensively with wemby. And wemby made a bottom 5 defense without him into a top 6 defense with him so I don't think Trae's d will be a huge issue. That pick and roll duo just gives a great offensive foundation to build off of and wemby gives a great defensive foundation. If I was the spurs I'm definitely doing that trade
They just landed the #1 overall pick in the NBA draft. Wonder if this changes things in terms of keeping Trae or Dejounte or both but i think one of the other gotta go if not both. Im with u on Dejounte being moved
I can understand that the Spurs just chill and wait. There is no pressure to win now, build your roster with a solid draft over the next 2 years around wemby and then maybe 1 or 2 good trades. All this talk about wemby needs a wining team now is bs. Why should the Spurs make any risky moves now? You know the weakness of your team and can build around it. Better perimeter defense and a good floor general. Trae is none of that. One more offseason with good rookies sounds way more like the spurs way.
I remember when people first started talking about Atlanta trading Trae Young. I just thought to myself that people aren't really understanding that Trae Young is not well liked around the league by players or coaches. I want to point something out. Atlanta lost almost 40 some odd games within 10 points or less! So they were in all of these games and weren't able to close it out in the end if they had someone like a Carl Anthony or Porzingis which I know is impossible but a player like that or as close to that as possible then they will actually get into the playoffs and be extremely competitive but they need that for sure.
The one that makes the most sense to me though is the Pelicans trade push CJ into the SG spot, Ingram doesn't hurt that bad, and Nance doesn't hurt them too badly either. The Spurs could really use Trae, but it looks hard to fit the parts in.
Think Kyrie wants out though? I think he's past the point where he thinks he can lead a team and with Luka a deep playoffs push might be exactly what he needs to stick around
Truthfully ever since the 2020 rising stars game, ive wanted to see trae and luka on the same team😅 it doesn't make the most since, but the chemistry would definitely be there
MN isn’t trading away KAT anytime soon. He’s a key reason why they’re winning. Plus he’s still fairly young and he found his sweet spot as the 2nd best player on the team. The wolves wouldn’t trade away a core player in his prime for a bunch of expendable role players and picks that will turn into more role players. Picks are overrated in the NBA unless it’s in the lottery.
Dejounte was a good defender under poppovich. Crazy that Atlanta got him for defensive purposes and never enforced that. Trae influenced him and all his defence attributes went to shooting
If the star of the team doesn't defend, why would anyone else? The vibe in Wolves that had Kat/Wiggs was no defense, but now with Ant/Gobert, Kat has been forced to try better to defend because its critical
TBH I could see Trae getting traded to the Spurs since he and Wemby both want to win now and are both All-Star/All-NBA players. Though I'd keep Tre Jones as a solid backup since he helps with Young's turnovers and already knows how Wemby works. The trade you mentioned could work, but swap Tre Jones with Malaki Branham or Cedi Osman and the Spurs might be a threat and a half next season.
That Bull's trade actually makes decent sense. Trae takes over the PG slot moving White to the SG, Caruso as your 6th man can play any front-court position. Atlanta gets a lethal scorer on the wing to draw defenders away from Murray and while neither Levine or Trae are 'good' defenders Levine is a hell of a lot bigger and more athletic making him a far better rebounder. That one, at least on paper, seems a 'win/win' trade scenario. The Laker's one though... not sure that one meets the smell test in either scenario. Pulling in the Twolves actually makes more sense than the straight Hawks / Lakers trade.
You didn’t factor in Trae’s unwillingness to still play great basketball for Atlanta. The organization is willing to trade him not just because he’s playing mid, but rather he’s not willing to play it all. He’s very vocal that he wants to get out, and player who wants out of their teams don’t win series and championships. He will be traded to other teams, because if they need to “win now” then they need a player that wants to “win now” not a player that wants to “leave now”. Edit: He’ll be better with the Spurs.
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Yeah get the worst defender in the league who is also ball dominant can't shoot consistently and give up some extremely valuable hawks picks right back to them.
@@emilfrederiksen.1622 well getting trae could have spurs making playoffs next year but if you dont make any trades they could be a bottom team for next 3 years. Is Wemby ok with being bottom of league for another 3 years?
As a Spurs fan, I'd rather get DeJounte back than Trae. We can see how good DeJounte defensively if he wanted to. Branham, Collins, + the Hawks picks is fine for Dejounte.
Not to defend Trae Young because I wanted Luka. In that clip you showed he was injured and came back early because it was a play in game with Bulls. He is not as bad at def as people are saying he had his career high in steals. He just undersized and gets posted up or shot over.
Mavs already have Kyrie and Luka. Trading Lively (a solid rim protector), Hardaway (better catch and shoot than Trae) and others doesn't make any sense. It might get them higher in the season but they can already win in the regular season and need someone who will give them more depth in the play-offs (and Trae is not that guy)
Honestly I don't hate the Lakers proposal for Trae...Almost none of the other trades felt win now. Though I admit, shipping Dejounte might result in a less bitter trade. I would love to have Jalen J. have more active role as well as Vit Krejčí. Though the defense is really sus ye. Nice vid and thanks for the insight :)
Trae is good. Basketball is a team sport. If you put him in a system with players that make sense he will look a lot better and win big games. We have seen him make the conference finals as his teams’s best player. That does not just happen to anyone.
As a Hawks fan, I want Trae traded but I also don't but the thing with him is though that nobody wants to pay the price (especially the Spurs) for a one-way superstar and GMs like Dejounte's game better. Dejounte is liked more. Teams that are desperate may take a gamble. Dejounte more likely to be traded to another team.
Spurs are in a very good position in their rebuild, why throw all of that away for a PG who can’t play any defense. Playing for the spurs and pop, defense is top priority.
@@chadwellington2524 I completely understand that perspective, but remember every great player wants to win every game. He’s going to learn to have some patience and let things play out in their favor. Spurs are doing it right, taking the proper steps, and building something great. Free agents will see this and want to play, even if it’s a season or 2 for the Spurs. To try and win a chip. In time.
Wouldn't the Nets be an ideal landing spot for Trae, though I guess it would have to be a 3 team trade because I don't think the Nets would have players the Hawks want, but lots of picks
I agree for the most part but i can really see a trade involving MIN happening. I think MIN should move KAT and if they can involve a third team and bring in pieces that fit around ANT as well as picks to use as assets.... That would be ideal. I think Naz and Gobert are still an above average big duo. There is dropoff from KAT but youd be gaining much more than you losing. The LAL trade you mentioned would be fantastic fir ATL and MIN, just not sure LAL would do that for Trae.
I would have been okay with moving kat but he played good in the suns series and im excited to see what they do the rest of this playoff run. if they beat the nuggets i believe they will win it all.
To me Trae Young looks enticing at first but is a bad choice for the spurs. I'd rather have a pointguard like Mike Conley, Kyle Lowry or Tyus Jones if we think medium/short term. Trae Jones currently is doing a decent job for SA but I'm not sure he can be THE guy to organize the offense long term.
y’all are sleeping on the Pelicans being a very dark horse option for Trae to be traded to. it likely won’t happen, but like he said in the video, they could offer one of if not the best packages for him. plus the pairing of Trae and Zion would just fit too well. sorta like a poor man’s Dame & Giannis. we’ll see how things play out this summer tho
As a lakers fan we won’t get him every single time a star has trade rumors or free agent stars they always say the lakers will get him but we never do like example Kyrie
First time im saying this, but that trade is bad for the LAKERS. The Bulls one is more probable, considering how incompetent the Bulls front office is. The Pelicans one is interesting. Ingram is a surprisingly mid player efficiency wise and its not like Zion is koving anytime woth that contract, so might as well just yolo.
What about trying to get Beal to waive his no trade Beal is a lot more expensive tho I like some kind of three team for Towns KAT is a bit redundant with Naz Reid, or KAT's salary makes this more true anyway
Nobody is talking about the raptors I think they have a good chance, they are in rebuild mode yes, but think of it like this, trae can help with barn’s development and can make both an all team. Trae going to the Raptors can also help young and developing players like people from this draft. You also have a defensive minded coach which will help trae. For Trae I think picks and DICK
That doesn't make sense. Barnes wouldn't develop with trae there. Trae needs the ball all the time to be effective. The Raptors wants Barnes to be their point forward
I am calling it now! If Suns get bounced: Booker/Little for Trae + picks. I mean c'mon. Hawks problem is that they have two PGs in the back court. The Suns have two SGs in the backcourt.
A trae young for Brandon Ingram basis of swap makes all the sense for both teams for them to both keep convincing themselves they are contenders. With JV going throw in capela and CJ maybe a few other small pieces theres a move there
Trae Young is a much smaller, less efficient, and far less mature version of Steph Curry. The Hawks have done squat with this guy the last 6 years. That's enough of a sample size to say that not only can he NOT be the best player on a championship team, he probably won't be the 2nd best player on a championship team.
He will never be on a team that passes the second round unless he is like the 4th best player they have and everyone is dominating defensively. Maybe the Wolves could work for him, he's like fourth best there
Nets clippers heat grizzlies magic. These teams should all want young. They all have defenses that should be able to accomodate him but they are missing offensive punch.
I'm assuming the Lakers will get him. But I'd rather see him go to San Antonio with Webi. Trae's lack of defense will be aided by Webi's massive impact on defense.
thhis is why trading with the Spurs makes the most sense, trade Trae to them to get back the picks/pick swaps they traded to the Spurs for Dejounte Murray to begin with
Keldon Johnson, Zach Collins, Tre Jones 2025. Hawks and 2027 Hawks picks. (If you’re gonna be bad you need your own picks) likely a spurs 2024 or 2026 pick. Makes the most sense.
trae and wemby would be crazy. Wemby picks up the lack of defense and Trae can lob all day and shoot all the crazy threes from the logo (so he can get back on defense quicker haha) and wemby can clean the glass on the misses ricocheting to half court
Lakers don't have enough picks, Bulls will probably want to continue developing Coby White, Spurs sounds good and are probably favourites depending on what the Jazz want to do in the future. Spurs may not have contracts to match, so they probably will trade to Jazz if the Jazz want to compete.
the teams that could use him don’t have the right assets i don’t think he will be traded because the Hawks gm made a statement that implies he wants to get a true second star with Trae…like Dejounte is good but he isn’t a Zion type player
thing is, Trae has a player option in 2 years. So either they trade him in ONE year or he's gone for zero dollars in 2 years. Obviously they can give him an eye watering deal try make him stay, say for 60-70 mill/ a year. He is already making almost 50 over the next 2 years.
Hawks will demand too much for Trae, no doubt. They've already fleeced with that Luka-Trae trade since that extra 1st round pick simply did not pan out. And now their picks went to Spurs for the Dejounte trade. Yup, they'll be in the mid purgatory for years to come.
Why would anyone trade anything of value for the best player on a bad team who hasn’t demonstrated a desire to learn how to play defense in his NBA career. Maybe if Trae Young played defense the Hawks wouldn’t suck as bad and they wouldn’t need to blow the team up.
Trae is a halo player, a franchise player, and there isnt a lot of guys who can give you 50 points in the NBA. He's been averaging 25 points and 9 asts in his career. His 3P% isnt even great, but you have to remember, he regularly takes logo shots- so defenders have to come out and literally defend him at the logo, hence opening up space for him to drive and have the defense collapse on him, so he can either go for it or find an open player. There definitely is a place for just outshooting the opponent to win.
The spurs need to make a trade for a star they need someone to pair with wemby especially because hes adjusting to the league. He proved he has a winnings mentality all he needs is an offensive guard.
If I was a Lakers fan, I would make it a point to go kiss the Pacific Ocean at least once a week because that's the reason why the Lakers organization can basically shop the league roster like we shop Amazon. The Pacific Ocean is actually the greatest Laker of all time and they need to hang a banner for it
I can’t understand why the Mavericks have betting odds. We literally have no place for him. He can’t catch and shoot, and he’d be taking the ball out of Kyrie and Luka’s hands… Plus, he’s bad at defense and he’s small. Atrocious fit
maybe Kyrie demands a traade
Even luka might leave if they lose 1st round
L franchise throw away last year for a tenth pick just to lose in the first round anyway
they already knew that and still traded for Kyrie. you know never with these guys, they probably think more offense will cover for the defense issue.
@@abhinavaman08 lmao get real. Kyrie is the happiest he’s been since Cleveland.
I understand that Trae and Victor would be a very entertaining duo, but I do not believe Trae's personality would work well with Gregg Popovich
I agree on this. Trae is too much of a big persona to have Greg be able to put him in line. HOWEVER, Greg is the very right person if you were to aim and put Trae in a new light with good discipline.
especially dealing with his ego at 40m+ a year
@@blackcrow9231 Dejounte has a bigger personality/ego than Trae imo. He has had a reputation of being a hothead on and off the court, look it up.
@@cams9531 I believe it just from how he played on the court, he however wasn’t making big contract money like Trae is. I believe that to also affect how resistant someone is to change in a new setting.
He may need a pop in his ear to humble him
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Everyone is tradeable. The fact that Westbrook, Wall, Beal, and Bertanz all got traded with ridiculously bad contracts just shows everyone can be traded.
i mean idk about westbrook because i’m pretty sure he’s current contract is well below his possible pay grade, even at his worst in the lakers
@@doingyourmothers -- Westbrook is worth well above his current contract value. Westbrook may be one of the best values in the entire league currently.
I was speaking of his previous deal.
Wembanyama? Jokic?
@@waynehill1191 -- I know you are responding to the comment, but the video is saying Young is too hard to trade. It isn't because he is too good like Jokic or Wembanyama.
If Jokic or Wemby were ever put on the trade block every team would make an offer.
This isn't about should or should you not trade.
They are "untradeable" because it would be stupid to trade them not because it is impossible.
My team is the Sixers. Tobias Harris just finished game 6 versus the Knicks with 0 points.
What people don't know if they aren't Sixers fans is that Harris is making $40 mil this year. 2nd highest paid on the team.
Couldn't make a deal for him for past 2 years.
Now in this last year when he became an expiring contract, teams were willing to make offers because an expiring deal is worth something no matter how bad a player is playing at the time.
Spurs are starting to value that 2025 ATL unprotected pick more than Trae Young. The Hawks are cooked
Could be cooper flagg
@@emilfrederiksen.1622that’s what I’m saying, why tf would the spurs move those picks back when they could be more all nba talent? As a spurs fan I’m not sweating the noise, no way they do it
@@MaximusR93 They don't need to do anything but wait for another season and they have all the flexibility. If they don't want to draft a guy, they still have the option to trade for Trae, or another Hawks guy, or any other all-star that might become available over the next year. On draft night next year they will have all the leverage and flexibility
Spurs pretty much already said "nah" to him. I don't blame them.
What about san antonio trading their pick this year for trae young... then hawks are bottom 5 team next year and spur get top 5 pick next year
The Mavericks odds make no sense lol
All the players besides Luka and Kyrie are a disaster
Maybe 6moy 💀
Derrick lively
@@Joyvzneven if that’s true in what world would you want Kyrie, Trae and Luka as a trio. Makes zero sense whatsoever. Trae is a terrible off ball player and there’s no chance the Mavs are taking the ball out of Luka and Irving’s hands
That would be the stupidest trade in the history of sports , a defensive nightmare kyrie trae and luka on the same team is crazy
As a Spurs fan and San Antonio native, its tempting to want Trae young. He has not been surrounded by great talent and I do give him the benefit of the doubt (hey to each their own). But looking at the team currently constructed and other teams salavating at the Hawks best talent which is comprised of just Trae and Murray, I REALLY want us to hold off on going in on a trade for Trae (and they will not trade for young, it was reported). If either one of these dudes is traded in the off season it seals a top 3 pick for the Spurs. The Hawks are screwed because of the trade the Spurs offered to the Hawks that they took. It will be sooo hard for Hawks fans to watch their team give SA their top pick in next years draft for a dude (Murray, who probably wont even be on the team on draft night), and put him right beside Victor Wembenyama. And the Hawks will have NOTHING to show for their horrible season!
Trae Young is not tempting at all. You have the Atlanta Hawks right where you want them. Don't let them weasel out of their current circumstance.
Murray yells at him every time murray does something wrong, coaches don’t know how to coach, he passes the ball all the time and it is still his fault, leave Trae go to the spurs pls
Spurs dont want him, they want that 2025 ATL pick
i hate it wen murray yella at murray
We do not want that ball hog on the team. We play through Wemby and Trae can't catch and shoot at all
Trae sucks let him go to the spurs
@@blablablaa14bro Trae is a good spacing pg . He can shoot from anywhere off his own dribble you don’t need him to catch and shoot you need him too keep the defense honest at the 3 and let wemby work the interior. It’s his defense that would be subject but if curry can win ,Trae can. He needs a good coach and system
As a wolves fan who appreciates all the good things SloMo does for us, I would hardly say he "knocks down shots" with any consistency this year.
That's never been his strength. He's a passer and defender type player. He's not perfect but he can hold a role player spot in many teams
Trae to the spurs makes some sense fit wise and trade wise with those draft picks. I don't think there's a single player in the nba available that can be paired with dejounte and make the hawks a contender. It makes more sense just to rebuild and get as many young players and assets as possible. Trade both Trae and dejounte
No it doesn't and it will never happen. Keep dreaming 🤡
Dejounte is wayyyy better than Trae
It does not make Sense Trae Young is a diva an awful defender a inconsistent shooter a turn over machine plus he throws his coaches under the bus he is literally anti spurs.
Spurs are the last team that want a one-dimensional non-shooter hothead. Literally any other team lol
Theres no way the Mavericks trade Lively
Especially not for fucking trae
Why not trade both Young and Murray for picks and reboot? It's not like any of these options can get through 1st round.
re-tooling without their own firsts in '25 and '27 with a pick-swap in '26. So, being bad only helps San Antonio, but not Atlanta. You would have to waist three years
@@hualchr6697 waste
@@hualchr6697 thats why you get picks from trading them..
I just want Trae to contend as a hawks fan 😢
He's shown us he's a true baller. It's just basic ATL team management AGAIN #sweatergod we got Murray and I was excited until I saw him play. DJ sucks
Lavine for Trae made me sick in my mouth almost
Don’t know why the bulls would want him. But they need to trade lavine
I'd rather keep lavine than give away 2 firsts for Trae lol, he's got a bad attitude and no defense, pretty much what zach is now
Yall are tripping. Trae young did more in the playoffs than lavine has his entire career.
@@JohnnyBananas7x that ain't saying much buddy
They do not need perimeter defense. Their perimeter defense only sucks when Trae is on the floor. So by trading Trae you automatically improve your perimeter d
This makes no sense
Until you realize that Trae wasn’t in bottom 5 of defenders on his team
That is silly. ONE player does not make an entire defense bad, that's just not how things work.
Laundry Fields being a GM is so random
I also skipped back thinking if I heard correct 😂
Crazy went from guarding him in 2k11
Any Pelicans' deal is not including BI. CJ + sophomore Hawkins + the better of their two firsts in both 2025 and 2027 (top-4 protected) would get the job done, but that doesn't line up with the Pelicans' MO.
That would be a huge robbery
@@marcel3942 Not really cause Hawks have to move on and Trae's value isn't that high. Also Hawkins is not bad at all and can play the two, while they can trade CJ to the Lakers or some desperate contender for a first round pick too. So overall it works for both teams. Trae's deal is really bad especially when you consider he hasn't had a good season in 3 years and is still a max guy. I actually think the Pels might not do it cause A they are a cheap organization, never paid luxury tax and B they like to play zion as their PG and its been their best lineup, so bringing in Trae might not work if Zion can't get the ball and becomes more of a pick and roller (which isn't his strong suit)
Huge fan am hoops keep up the amazing work
Pistons didn't fire their GM 🤣
And we aren't getting Tre Young
FOH
They hired a new president of operations. So wasn’t like he was far off.
Their new hiring of president of operations, usually implies that the GM gets fired so they can bring a new vibe
Trade Ivey, and the Lottery Pick for Trey. 💯
@@adamwehrino they didn't looking for one
0:35 this aged well
I might be in the minority, but Trae feels like a bad fit on the Spurs to me. Yes, he is an excellent passer and might unlock a next level Wemby lob threat, but he's also ball dominant, and heavily offensive-oriented compared to defense. I think the Spurs would be better served developing through internal growth of their young core, the draft, and smaller trades, rather than sacrificing their draft picks and other assets for a long-shot bet on a "win-now" move for a disgruntled flawed "basically untradeable" star.
Yeah, you’re the minority that’s the beauty of teaming up with Wembanyama. It makes up for his defensive deficiencies.
I think a slight majority want Trae on the Spurs, but you're right it's a terrible idea for the reasons you listed and more. The Hawk's picks are way more valuable.
One of those is a pick swap and the other is Protected top 15.
@@michaeltucker5881 I believe 2025 and 2027 are both unprotected. And the way things are going it looks like the Spurs will have a better record in 2026, which is the year of the swap.
@joeblow7464 One is is top 15 protected the other not protected.
That Coby White travel was insane👀
lol carry if anything but he never gathered the ball so its not a travel 😅
I know this is off-topic, but why is nobody talking about the magic? They are a team ready to fully unleash and I think you could see a big trade for them. I want to see what Kasey has to see about this.
I agree they need a point guard
Spurs aren’t trading for young or Murray. They’re absolutely keeping those 3 1sts. Such a great position. Sorry hawks fans, I don’t enjoy rooting for your demise but it is what it is.
I'm absolutely rooting for their demise with how they're expecting us to take their defensive liability. In order to save their sinking ship.
They can go f -k themselves.
I can see them maaaaaaybe trading for DJ if they can finagle him via 3 team trade and not lose any of those moist, juicy picks.
@@jeebus022 if Atlanta does any business with the spurs it’ll be for their own picks, begins and ends with that.
I definitely think the spurs should do that trade.
What are the chances that any of those picks end up as good as trae? Especially when considering his fit offensively with wemby. And wemby made a bottom 5 defense without him into a top 6 defense with him so I don't think Trae's d will be a huge issue.
That pick and roll duo just gives a great offensive foundation to build off of and wemby gives a great defensive foundation.
If I was the spurs I'm definitely doing that trade
@@najuub7 I thought the same but I think either way works for me rather they trade for Trae or keep all the Hawks draft picks to build around Wemby.
They just landed the #1 overall pick in the NBA draft. Wonder if this changes things in terms of keeping Trae or Dejounte or both but i think one of the other gotta go if not both. Im with u on Dejounte being moved
I can understand that the Spurs just chill and wait. There is no pressure to win now, build your roster with a solid draft over the next 2 years around wemby and then maybe 1 or 2 good trades. All this talk about wemby needs a wining team now is bs.
Why should the Spurs make any risky moves now? You know the weakness of your team and can build around it. Better perimeter defense and a good floor general. Trae is none of that. One more offseason with good rookies sounds way more like the spurs way.
I remember when people first started talking about Atlanta trading Trae Young. I just thought to myself that people aren't really understanding that Trae Young is not well liked around the league by players or coaches. I want to point something out. Atlanta lost almost 40 some odd games within 10 points or less! So they were in all of these games and weren't able to close it out in the end if they had someone like a Carl Anthony or Porzingis which I know is impossible but a player like that or as close to that as possible then they will actually get into the playoffs and be extremely competitive but they need that for sure.
The one that makes the most sense to me though is the Pelicans trade push CJ into the SG spot, Ingram doesn't hurt that bad, and Nance doesn't hurt them too badly either. The Spurs could really use Trae, but it looks hard to fit the parts in.
The Mavs are so high on that list because Trae would be their contingency plan if Kyrie wants out
Think Kyrie wants out though? I think he's past the point where he thinks he can lead a team and with Luka a deep playoffs push might be exactly what he needs to stick around
That's a horrible fit. Trae needs the ball in his hands. He also sucks at playing off ball. I swear y'all just making things up lol
Hell no 😂😂 Would rather have Jalen and Bogdan instead of Trae.
Truthfully ever since the 2020 rising stars game, ive wanted to see trae and luka on the same team😅 it doesn't make the most since, but the chemistry would definitely be there
@A.M. Hoops You should do an episode of how many of your hot takes came true.
The Spurs have the Hawks by the lottery balls.
Those picks won’t be top 15. Even without trae and 2 other starters the hawks still looked decent if not better.
@@Amir-ali685even by virtue of being in the east, they are still not a good team
MN isn’t trading away KAT anytime soon. He’s a key reason why they’re winning. Plus he’s still fairly young and he found his sweet spot as the 2nd best player on the team. The wolves wouldn’t trade away a core player in his prime for a bunch of expendable role players and picks that will turn into more role players. Picks are overrated in the NBA unless it’s in the lottery.
Dejounte was a good defender under poppovich. Crazy that Atlanta got him for defensive purposes and never enforced that. Trae influenced him and all his defence attributes went to shooting
If the star of the team doesn't defend, why would anyone else? The vibe in Wolves that had Kat/Wiggs was no defense, but now with Ant/Gobert, Kat has been forced to try better to defend because its critical
How about Brooklyn? for Simmons last year? salary dump?
This is why I subscribe.
TBH I could see Trae getting traded to the Spurs since he and Wemby both want to win now and are both All-Star/All-NBA players. Though I'd keep Tre Jones as a solid backup since he helps with Young's turnovers and already knows how Wemby works. The trade you mentioned could work, but swap Tre Jones with Malaki Branham or Cedi Osman and the Spurs might be a threat and a half next season.
Love ur content u make the best videos
That Bull's trade actually makes decent sense. Trae takes over the PG slot moving White to the SG, Caruso as your 6th man can play any front-court position. Atlanta gets a lethal scorer on the wing to draw defenders away from Murray and while neither Levine or Trae are 'good' defenders Levine is a hell of a lot bigger and more athletic making him a far better rebounder. That one, at least on paper, seems a 'win/win' trade scenario. The Laker's one though... not sure that one meets the smell test in either scenario. Pulling in the Twolves actually makes more sense than the straight Hawks / Lakers trade.
You didn’t factor in Trae’s unwillingness to still play great basketball for Atlanta. The organization is willing to trade him not just because he’s playing mid, but rather he’s not willing to play it all. He’s very vocal that he wants to get out, and player who wants out of their teams don’t win series and championships. He will be traded to other teams, because if they need to “win now” then they need a player that wants to “win now” not a player that wants to “leave now”.
Edit: He’ll be better with the Spurs.
Atlanta Hawks need build around Jalen Johnson 💪🔥💪
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Holy shit they actually got the #1 overall LMAO
The Mavs make zero sense. The spurs make the most sense, and I would love to see it plus more action from the spurs front office in the off season.
Yeah get the worst defender in the league who is also ball dominant can't shoot consistently and give up some extremely valuable hawks picks right back to them.
Pass. We want the draft picks so we can draft Cooper Flagg or Cameron Boozer.
@@emilfrederiksen.1622 well getting trae could have spurs making playoffs next year but if you dont make any trades they could be a bottom team for next 3 years. Is Wemby ok with being bottom of league for another 3 years?
had not been trading for dejounte murray's value of draft picks , they could've gotten wemby.
No they would have needed to tank to be bottom 3 to get Wemby. They weren't that bad prior to Murray. They were just as avearge
As a Spurs fan, I'd rather get DeJounte back than Trae. We can see how good DeJounte defensively if he wanted to. Branham, Collins, + the Hawks picks is fine for Dejounte.
Did you notice the guys the Hawks could draft is wearing a 'Trae Young' t-shirt at 8:08
Not to defend Trae Young because I wanted Luka. In that clip you showed he was injured and came back early because it was a play in game with Bulls. He is not as bad at def as people are saying he had his career high in steals. He just undersized and gets posted up or shot over.
*Atlanta Hawks receive* :
[1]. *Kevin Durant* from the Phoenix Suns for Trae Young, along with Bruno Fernando and Garrison Mathews.
[2]. *D'Angelo Russell* from the Los Angeles Lakers for De'Andre Hunter.
[3]. Sign pending Detroit Pistons Restricted Free Agent James Wiseman.
[4]. Sign pending Phoenix Suns Unrestricted Free Agent Isaiah Thomas.
[5]. Sign last season's 2 Way Players Vit Krejci, Seth Lundy & Dylan Windler.
*Atlanta Hawks key Free Agent departures* :
[1]. Saddiq Bey;
[2]. Wesley Matthews;
[3]. Trent Forrest.
*Proposed Atlanta Hawks 2024-25 Roster*
[C] Clint Capela
& Onyeka Okongwu;
[PF] James Wiseman
& Mouhamed Gueye;
[SF] Kevin Durant,
Jalen Johnson
& Vit Krejci;
[SG] Bogdan Bogdanovic
AJ Griffin
& Dylan Windler;
[PG] Dejounte Murray,
D'Angelo Russell,
Kobe Bufkin
& Isaiah Thomas.
Mavs already have Kyrie and Luka. Trading Lively (a solid rim protector), Hardaway (better catch and shoot than Trae) and others doesn't make any sense. It might get them higher in the season but they can already win in the regular season and need someone who will give them more depth in the play-offs (and Trae is not that guy)
Literally makes zero sense when you have Kyrie and Luka. Even if you only had Luka it makes no sense.
Honestly I don't hate the Lakers proposal for Trae...Almost none of the other trades felt win now. Though I admit, shipping Dejounte might result in a less bitter trade. I would love to have Jalen J. have more active role as well as Vit Krejčí. Though the defense is really sus ye. Nice vid and thanks for the insight :)
Do y’all not see coby White Carry ?
Trae is good. Basketball is a team sport. If you put him in a system with players that make sense he will look a lot better and win big games. We have seen him make the conference finals as his teams’s best player. That does not just happen to anyone.
thank god for the progress bar on the ad so I can skip it perfectly
As a Hawks fan, I want Trae traded but I also don't but the thing with him is though that nobody wants to pay the price (especially the Spurs) for a one-way superstar and GMs like Dejounte's game better. Dejounte is liked more. Teams that are desperate may take a gamble. Dejounte more likely to be traded to another team.
Spurs are in a very good position in their rebuild, why throw all of that away for a PG who can’t play any defense. Playing for the spurs and pop, defense is top priority.
@@JoshJayVee_101 Only reason id see is wemby isnt cool with being a bottom of league team for another few years
@@chadwellington2524 I completely understand that perspective, but remember every great player wants to win every game. He’s going to learn to have some patience and let things play out in their favor. Spurs are doing it right, taking the proper steps, and building something great.
Free agents will see this and want to play, even if it’s a season or 2 for the Spurs. To try and win a chip. In time.
Wouldn't the Nets be an ideal landing spot for Trae, though I guess it would have to be a 3 team trade because I don't think the Nets would have players the Hawks want, but lots of picks
I agree for the most part but i can really see a trade involving MIN happening.
I think MIN should move KAT and if they can involve a third team and bring in pieces that fit around ANT as well as picks to use as assets.... That would be ideal.
I think Naz and Gobert are still an above average big duo. There is dropoff from KAT but youd be gaining much more than you losing.
The LAL trade you mentioned would be fantastic fir ATL and MIN, just not sure LAL would do that for Trae.
lol how the heck are the Mavs even in the conversation when they already have a back court?
As Spurs fan, please do not make the trade
Trust our team to not suddenly become a terribly stupid organization as we've never been. Spurs isn't the Hornets
As spurs fan, you are crazy we need Trae badly
@@Grind2Excellence As a Spurs fan, you don't know basketball if you think Trae is a good basketball player
I would have been okay with moving kat but he played good in the suns series and im excited to see what they do the rest of this playoff run. if they beat the nuggets i believe they will win it all.
If the price gets low enough i could see my bulls trading for him, I'm not a big fan of Trae but he makes sense for the Bulls tbh
Trae Young for Yan Pengfei and Wang Zhelin its win-win situation..Haws gets center and good shooter ,and Shanghai Sharks gets point guard they need
That phantom 12” grey hair on Traes chin
To me Trae Young looks enticing at first but is a bad choice for the spurs. I'd rather have a pointguard like Mike Conley, Kyle Lowry or Tyus Jones if we think medium/short term. Trae Jones currently is doing a decent job for SA but I'm not sure he can be THE guy to organize the offense long term.
y’all are sleeping on the Pelicans being a very dark horse option for Trae to be traded to. it likely won’t happen, but like he said in the video, they could offer one of if not the best packages for him. plus the pairing of Trae and Zion would just fit too well. sorta like a poor man’s Dame & Giannis. we’ll see how things play out this summer tho
As a lakers fan we won’t get him every single time a star has trade rumors or free agent stars they always say the lakers will get him but we never do like example Kyrie
It's because Bron is still there. Once he leaves, they will surely sign a new star
i know the spurs won't but trae and wemby with a good offensive center for wemby to go power forward might be championship contender
First time im saying this, but that trade is bad for the LAKERS.
The Bulls one is more probable, considering how incompetent the Bulls front office is.
The Pelicans one is interesting. Ingram is a surprisingly mid player efficiency wise and its not like Zion is koving anytime woth that contract, so might as well just yolo.
Talk about Brooklyn and how they can become good
What about trying to get Beal to waive his no trade
Beal is a lot more expensive tho
I like some kind of three team for Towns
KAT is a bit redundant with Naz Reid, or KAT's salary makes this more true anyway
Nobody is talking about the raptors I think they have a good chance, they are in rebuild mode yes, but think of it like this, trae can help with barn’s development and can make both an all team. Trae going to the Raptors can also help young and developing players like people from this draft. You also have a defensive minded coach which will help trae. For Trae I think picks and DICK
That doesn't make sense. Barnes wouldn't develop with trae there. Trae needs the ball all the time to be effective. The Raptors wants Barnes to be their point forward
the raptors just traded OG to sign quickley i doubt they get another scoring minded small guard
I am calling it now! If Suns get bounced: Booker/Little for Trae + picks. I mean c'mon. Hawks problem is that they have two PGs in the back court. The Suns have two SGs in the backcourt.
A trae young for Brandon Ingram basis of swap makes all the sense for both teams for them to both keep convincing themselves they are contenders. With JV going throw in capela and CJ maybe a few other small pieces theres a move there
Trae Young is a much smaller, less efficient, and far less mature version of Steph Curry. The Hawks have done squat with this guy the last 6 years. That's enough of a sample size to say that not only can he NOT be the best player on a championship team, he probably won't be the 2nd best player on a championship team.
He will never be on a team that passes the second round unless he is like the 4th best player they have and everyone is dominating defensively. Maybe the Wolves could work for him, he's like fourth best there
When has Trae actually played with a legit all star? Murray and Colin’s as your number 2 options aren’t getting you very far no matter who it is.
Think it probably goes to a three-team trade. Kind of surprised Miami isn't on the list.
Nets clippers heat grizzlies magic. These teams should all want young. They all have defenses that should be able to accomodate him but they are missing offensive punch.
Trae on the Raptors would be nice
I'm assuming the Lakers will get him. But I'd rather see him go to San Antonio with Webi. Trae's lack of defense will be aided by Webi's massive impact on defense.
WHAT ABOUT THE WARRIORS!?!!
thhis is why trading with the Spurs makes the most sense, trade Trae to them to get back the picks/pick swaps they traded to the Spurs for Dejounte Murray to begin with
Keldon Johnson, Zach Collins, Tre Jones 2025. Hawks and 2027 Hawks picks. (If you’re gonna be bad you need your own picks) likely a spurs 2024 or 2026 pick. Makes the most sense.
trae and wemby would be crazy. Wemby picks up the lack of defense and Trae can lob all day and shoot all the crazy threes from the logo (so he can get back on defense quicker haha) and wemby can clean the glass on the misses ricocheting to half court
Spurs give away one, maybe 2 of their first rounders, but not 3, that's insane on top of servicable and prospects with potential. That's crazy
I want Bulls Trade Zach Lavine to Atlanta Hawks For Trae Young trade to Chicago Bulls this summer offseason move
Lakers don't have enough picks, Bulls will probably want to continue developing Coby White, Spurs sounds good and are probably favourites depending on what the Jazz want to do in the future. Spurs may not have contracts to match, so they probably will trade to Jazz if the Jazz want to compete.
I really like the Pels trade too
Lakers do not want Trae I hope. No advertisements is the way to go!
Honestly, that Lavine and picks for Trae deal could happen, even with Coby White being there.
the teams that could use him don’t have the right assets
i don’t think he will be traded because the Hawks gm made a statement that implies he wants to get a true second star with Trae…like Dejounte is good but he isn’t a Zion type player
thing is, Trae has a player option in 2 years. So either they trade him in ONE year or he's gone for zero dollars in 2 years. Obviously they can give him an eye watering deal try make him stay, say for 60-70 mill/ a year. He is already making almost 50 over the next 2 years.
Hawks will demand too much for Trae, no doubt. They've already fleeced with that Luka-Trae trade since that extra 1st round pick simply did not pan out. And now their picks went to Spurs for the Dejounte trade. Yup, they'll be in the mid purgatory for years to come.
The Lakers would be CRAZY to give up those players plus picks for Trae!
not really they are in win mode now with lebron having about 1 year left
Love that Pels trade,either them or the spurs
Why would anyone trade anything of value for the best player on a bad team who hasn’t demonstrated a desire to learn how to play defense in his NBA career.
Maybe if Trae Young played defense the Hawks wouldn’t suck as bad and they wouldn’t need to blow the team up.
Trae is a halo player, a franchise player, and there isnt a lot of guys who can give you 50 points in the NBA. He's been averaging 25 points and 9 asts in his career. His 3P% isnt even great, but you have to remember, he regularly takes logo shots- so defenders have to come out and literally defend him at the logo, hence opening up space for him to drive and have the defense collapse on him, so he can either go for it or find an open player. There definitely is a place for just outshooting the opponent to win.
@@maxmeier532he's a liability on defense. His scoring doesn't matter if the other team is targeting him on defense
DeJonte going back to San Antonio would be wild.
The spurs need to make a trade for a star they need someone to pair with wemby especially because hes adjusting to the league. He proved he has a winnings mentality all he needs is an offensive guard.
Please do a raptors afther season vid please
I stopped the video when he said Lavine is better duo with Dejante Murray.. lmao, this guy is smoking somethin we dont
i guess getting benched in your first playoff game is a quick way to get into these kind of trade talks.
If I was a Lakers fan, I would make it a point to go kiss the Pacific Ocean at least once a week because that's the reason why the Lakers organization can basically shop the league roster like we shop Amazon. The Pacific Ocean is actually the greatest Laker of all time and they need to hang a banner for it
That lakers hawks wolves trade makes no sense hawks only give up AJ griffin for KAT?
The Mav's two best players are both guards. Why would they need another guard?