GOLF: Learn To Compress The Golf Ball
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- Learn To Compress The Golf Ball
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A clubface that is square or closed makes it easier to compress the golf ball. And where the clubface is at the delivery position - or at last parallel - will dictate your release pattern, your body angles and your compression. In this video I’m showing you how to use your grip and wrist conditions to get your clubface in the best position to compress the ball and some drills you can use to practice.
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A lot to unpack here. There’s a lot of information in here and it’s all really good. I feel like, after grip and setup, this is one of the first things people should learn. If there is a secret to golf, this is it. This is why beginners hit crazy slices, even when they sometimes have pretty good natural swings. Instead of doing this, they start flipping to close the face. They need to know all this to avoid ruining their swings. This video belongs on a playlist of mandatory golf viewing.
👊Thanks so much for watching, Jason! Appreciate you being here with us!
Eric, your teaching is brilliant. The way you explain things is so clear. Also, the videos are VERY professional, organized, and well done. Keep it up. Thank you!
Thanks, Keith! Appreciate it my friend!
Eric this is all the proper logical instruction the internet has been missing - cause and effect - not just daft tips in isolation - brilliant
Appreciate it my friend!
Think it is great that you show all option to accomplish a task.. Please keep it up!!!
Appreciate it, Don! Thanks for the support!
Wow! No doubt the best compression video out there. How come no one has ever taught me this?
7 iron gained 15 to 20 meters of carry first day I tried this.
This is just an amazing revelation to me!
Love it, Alexander! Happy to hear that my friend!
This is a key area for me. In the past week I've got a lot more awareness that my face was open and leaving me with high, weak shots to the right half the time, and the other half straight, but still high. I've been taking the clubface back closed, with a stronger left hand on my grip and definitely loses the high fade and adds distance. Needs more practice, and to watch this a few times, but I think will help a lot. I did notice that with my driver, with its mid-size grip, I don't need to have such a strong left-hand. Plenty to work on over the festive season.
Hope it serves you well Dean! Thanks for watching!
Wow. This was like an epiphany! The little drill holding your club at 3:30 with face closed in the down swing has completely changed my game. The change is enormous. And it is probably only going to get better as I get used to it. Thanks :-)
Love it! Glad to hear that :)
Thank you Eric for this great lesson. Flipping has always been my main source of frustration and loss of power. I think this is one of the most difficult and overlooked movements in the golf swing. A game changer.😀👍
Hope it helps, Mike!
Excellent instruction
Thanks, John!
You and Marty working together are best- Hope to see him work more with you. Thanks for the help!
Thank you! Marty is awesome! We hope to do more moving forward as well!
eric..i use most of your videos, but this video along with your rotation videos have taken me from a 10, and now trending to a 6.7. i love how you explain things...i always mention your videos on the fb forums. they are great...keep up the good work
Love it! Happy to hear that! Appreciate it, Brandon!
Hi Eric, at 4.15 as you are turning the toe down it was good for me to see the relationship between the toe and the left wrist. Toe down, left wrist flat - it was good to see and note it dynamically in this position. Story checks out! 👍
Yessir :)
Love this video and the fact you are not discouraging a strong grip. I always hated when I competed in school how instructors tried to change my grip to a neutral grip. Spent more time frustrated with a neutral grip eventually always going back to a stronger grip to hit the ball well. It always felt much more natural too me.
Absolutely!
LOTS of great players all time who had stronger grips...
Also lots who were neutral and lots who were "weak"
Can be great with any of them!
베스트 오브 베스트 레슨.. 감사합니다.
Thanks Eric! Great video and makes a ton of sense. My typical angle of attack is 1.5 to 2 degrees down (based on gc3) and I've been trying to get that closer to 2.5 to 3 but couldn't figure out what was limiting me but never thought about starting at the clubface/grip. Thanks.
Hope this helps Pedram!
Could be SEVERAL things involved with that AoA....I would need to see your swing on video
Awesome! I found this channel and its been great for me. I recently played a much more challenging course than normal with the boys and, to my surprise, shot my best round of golf ever after watching your square to square video. Thanks for the help, golf is as fun playing for me as it is when I watch the pros now!
Excellent! Glad to hear that, Jimmy! Keep it going my friend!
This blows my mind! I've always thought that the clubface should be parallel to the back of the left wrist to be square. That toe down position sure looks closed to the swing plane to me. I hit a few shots using your drill and compressed the 8 iron. I have always had trouble compressing my irons. That toe down still looks closed to me, but i will try your drills and see if they help my iron shots. Great videos!
Thanks, David! Hope it does in fact prove helpful!
Thanks EC. Worked on compression yesterday + ROTATION. Swing thoughts were to keep everything on my right side BENT. (right hand, right leg, right side, right arm) through impact. Struggled a bit, then realized I wasn't rotating.
You're heading in the right direction my friend!
I really needed this and I will definitely try this on the range. I can really see myself when you're saying that the face is open both during the takeaway and in the downswing. I produce a good straight shot, but my 7-iron and woods are towering shots landing softly, not penetrating the air really. I have recently changed my grip to a weaker grip and will try and change that for later. Thanks!
Hope you get it sorted my friend!
Great vid on compression, and also how palms down can aid in club face being in the correct position from start to finish
Thanks, David!
This video is extremely helpful and really detailed. Thanks!
MY pleasure, my friend.
Great video, again 🙌🏻 And like the Hovland shout out, hes got an amazing swing! 😎🇳🇴
Appreciate it!
Yessir! He's got loads of great golf in front of him!!
Eric, I understand and am all for closing the face more on the way down and that feel, but I checked videos for that and while such a clubface tilt can indeed be seen in many backswings at that position, that can not be seen or is much less extreme than you suggest here at the downswing one.
I checked the Bill Haas one on V1, and DJ&Rahm as they are extreme left wrist bowers. Rahm has a bit with an iron, but none with the driver.
Hey, Thanks for the feedback!
Yes we are only looking for slightly tilted down...
As with all of the other videos, I generally want you to OVERDO something to find middle.
IF youre someone who is normally more toe up or open from toe up...you are at VERY LITTLE risk of tilting down too much with irons!
Or just find a middle that you like!
Best compression video tip ever! Thanks Eric!
My pleasure my friend!
Eric, great stuff as always. I appreciate your ability to communicate effectively. I have been trying a stronger grip in order to achieve better compression. However, as you mentioned in this video, pull hooks can occur. You mention something about getting the right shoulder to externally rotate to prevent the pull. Can you use a different word to explain what the right shoulder should be doing? I’m thrown by externally rotate. Thanks for your videos, they help make my frustrations explainable.
Here ya go in detail my friend: ruclips.net/video/TtRDa3s7Bwo/видео.html
No Doubt Best lesson alway. Eric would you post about wrist setting during backswing. I am struggling with non consistency of it. Thanks!
Hey! We have several videos on that within the "backswing" videos. If you search takeaway and backswing and watch those videos you will see them!
Great video cant wait to put this into practise
Yessir! Hope it helps!
Great video - thank you from Australia!
Thanks! My pleasure!
My first lesson, 27 years ago, I was taught “toe up vertically” at parallel, up and down. Resulted in twenty years of misconceptions.
Was taught the same thing 35yrs ago. Finally taught correct position at 1st parallel from takeaway in 2019...now compressing the ball.
I hear ya...lots of us were...
There are GREAT players who went TOE UP to TOE Up...its not "wrong" but perhaps not optimal.
Me too about that same early 90's time frame. It killed me for 25 years.
How much (driver) clubhead speed do you need in order to implement this face down method for your irons? I average about 105 mph and it works fine for my irons but can my sister who averages muss less can use it for her irons? She hits a 7 iron like 120 yards carry, so she is not completely short but not long either
I would say well over 100mph with driver
Are there any video links to if you hit the ground before the ball I do that I feel like from over compensating sometimes
Hey Brandon!
It depends on WHY that happens...would need to see your swing to say for sure.
Here are some to start:
ruclips.net/video/-IZytN5GZks/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/vUodOFx2mAo/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/DJ5WwZ-C2lQ/видео.html
This is pure gold. The best explanation and instruction of what to do to hit the golf ball solidly - I can’t wait to practice this.
Appreciate it!
Hi Eric. Great video. What about with the driver? What do you do so the face isn’t so delofted? Thanks. Brian
As you are taller the face should still be roughly parallel to the backline....so less tilted down with driver vs shorter iron.
Eric , another great lesson. my question is is this technique the same for a driver or fairway wood? thanks Bill
Thanks, Bill!
Yes if you enough club head speed....if your speed is less...saw under 100 mph you need some more LOFT!
I have been working on changing my grip to a stronger one as you suggested and can feel the difference. My misses are low left and that is ok for now but getting fewer of those misses. My ball flight is much lower now and I do miss the very high iron shots into the green. How can folks hit such high iron shots with so much forward shaft lean? Love your vids and thanks!
Hey Glenn...thanks!
In short....speed.
I feel this helping by just watching. There’s a par 4 on 7th hole at my course I play at 235 hit a terrible slice with hardly any compression and I hit the green probably 7-10 times but a lot of work to do it. I feel with this I can start stepping back to the 300 yard tees and nail it. It’s crazy how inconsistent I am. I can hit anywhere from 300+ to 200 with driver. I feel like if I hit the ball consistently I’m going to be a problem
Hope you get it sorted my friend :)
300 yards?! Lol or 200?! Really bro?? 😂
@@JBALLER02 shit you not. I’m a 7.2 handicap and could be scratch if I stop doing this crap. Guy at the clubhouse says why didn’t you hit that one like the last one you hit. I can score anywhere from a 35 on 9 to a 45. Depends on what the driver is doing. That’s a rough estimate. I have hit my driver up to 327. Have cleared 300 more than I can count. But I can also hit a hossel rocket or hit the top of the face and hit it 180. I’ve got the stats on 18 birdies to back it up. Every other part of my game is consistent.
Im a flipper. Love these drills. However, I find I'm pull hooking the ball. Left of left. Especially with a driver. How can I prevent this moving forward? Thanks
Hey David!
I would need to see your swing to say for sure...
Make sure you dont have an over active release pattern, you are turning body enough and getting arms working left enough around in follow through.
If you get the face more closed earlier you cant close it as much later
You da man! I love your videos
Appreciate ya :)
Hi Eric, Does this apply to all clubs in the bag (putter excluded)?
Yes!
Hi Eric, made my mission during the lockdown to get this part into my game (serial flipper). Can't hit range balls here in Scotland at the moment so can't tell if i'm gettein the hang of it. My feel is that I'm swinging out to the left of target, would that be right? Love your content. Hope you and yours are all well.
Hey-thanks for the message!
Yes it would! Of course I would have to SEE a video of your swing to say for sure....FEELS vs REALS.
Join www.cogornogolf.com if you dont get it sorted do you can send me a video and I can help
learning to play in western okla. on rock hard fairways i developed a shallow "clip" contact. not much divot at all. that was in the 70's. now, that habit is still there but i don't have the speed anymore. the result is a shot with not much spin into a green. i've always used a slightly weak grip and like all others did the toe up thing as well.
anyway....with a driver i have a stronger grip and on the way down i do that thing you showed with wrist angle etc....i call that "turning the screw" (like left hand turning a screwdriver). when i do that with irons i get a lot of toe action or a very solid strike. is it as simple as moving an inch closer at address?
Would have to see to say for sure on something that specific ....would have to see what you're currently doing relative to your feels
Your the best !!! Thank you !!!
Thanks, James!
If youre getting older, and not able to turn the body really fast, I would think a more Patrick Reed style release would add some speed? Even though it might be less safe?
Yes...face more neutral with less turn generally matches up better!
Eric, how does this relate to the driver, where we are not trying to compress?
All depends on your clubhead speed....
Fast speed can have similar patterns...less speed you need more dynamic loft/angle of attack
Very helpful!
Awesome!
@@CogornoGolf Just want to confirm once again. The "3:30" alignment rod is the path I'm down swinging on?
Scott Taylor I think the idea is more that at last parallel (when the club is last level with the ground before impact), the SHAFT will line up over the stick. The club head does not trace from the back of the stick along the stick to the ball. The club head will be behind you, the shaft will line up over the stick, then you work the club down and out to the ball. An overhead view would make this clearer. Eric has another video that makes this a little more clear: m.ruclips.net/video/APsIJ4M2oSY/видео.html
Hey Eric, do we want to compress like this for all irons? What about hybrids and fairway woods?
Yup.
All depends on how much speed you do or don't have.
More speed you have the more you can do it as the clubs get longer.
Less speed you have the less you can do it as the clubs get longer.
If you don't have enough speed you NEED the loft to get the ball high enough to carry far enough
Genius!!!
:)
Eric looks like you need a new glove LOL! A big hole near the palm @6:06 ~
Lol yessir....funny I literally got one right after we filmed this video and went on course!
Curious if you have a video on simple basics of the swing...fundamentals. I feel like if the basics are right, all this extra stuff almost takes care of itself....
Hey Adam! I'm sure within the 500 plus videos here we have some :)
We have more structured simplified videos to learn on Cogornogolf.com that I think would be more of the "fundamentals" you are looking for.
would this drill also help with an in to out swing?
It could...but these would more
ruclips.net/video/BKrxVvyp0_A/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/q43rhyr6-vE/видео.html
Thanks EC, but I am still confused about how to compress the golf ball. Theoretically, hands should be ahead of golf ball at impact, but I feel it is too hard to do that. I feel like i have to bend more to have that hand position.
MY pleasure!
" I feel like i have to bend more to have that hand position."
Sure....you may have to feel HUGE EXAGGERATIONS.....depending on where you are coming from.
Best to clear up your confusion. Work with a coach. Look at video. Get specific on what YOU need to do to compress the ball and then get to work giving yourself constant feedback....so that you never are confused.
IF you don't get it sorted I can help at cogornogolf.com as I would be able to see your swing
@@CogornoGolf thank youso much for replying me. I am living in Vietnam where we dont have many good coaches. Should i bend my knee or my spine? Does it have negative effect to my knee or spine? I am having bulging disc L5-S1 after 2 years playing golf.
Join www.cogornogolf.com premium member so we can see your swing and help....that way I don't have to guess!
It seems to me that a flipper is used to releasing power through a quick backswing and then stoppping that on the way down to release the club. What is a better Takeaway sequence for using this strong grip and closed club face position?
Hey Freddie!
I do not see the takeaway/backswing speed as a huge reason for a flipper.
I see 90% of the time its a too open clubface OR too steep of a downswing.
So I would focus on improving those if someone flips...takeaway/backswing checkpoints would be the same for everyone.
Great video! Thanks for the content. Can you still hit a cut or fade with the face turned down that way? How difficult is it to move the path left of the face under those circumstances? Or would you just change the face angle? Thanks.
You most certainly can.
You need a good pivot/rotation to do so though....DJ, Brooks, etc hit cuts with that look
Tiger called it TRAPPING the golf ball against the turf. Compression happens anytime a clubhead with enough speed hits the golfball no matter the orientation of the clubface.
Hey-thanks for the message!
The orientation of the club face both horizontally (open or closed) and vertically (dynamic loft) plays THE MOST IMPORTANT role in how much "compression" or the amount of "spin loft" someone has.
Thats measured-not opinion.
But none of this is possible if you come in steep at P5-P6 I presume? Like most golfers do.
Ideally you would be close to "on plane" for everything to work...you can be on the "steep" side and still do this pattern..
@@CogornoGolf Youre the best!! A great communicator as well! Thats what we need in golf more than anything I think.
Do the same video on the grass, not the mat. This is not a real-world condition.
Thanks for your feedback, Sam!
Why not simply close the face at address? Is this a no no?
You could....sometimes we do that as a drill to exaggerate.
@@CogornoGolf Just returned from the range. Armed with your instruction, I strengthened my grip and paid attention to takeaway/release etc. Boom! Hit the first few high, long, as right at target. Struggled a bit for awhile as had to be reminded this is not a magic cure and the rest of the parts are equally important. Then stared to look like a pro again...lol. Also, I found shaping my shots is much easier now (both draws and fades.) Eric, your instruction and ability to explain things is second to none. Thanks so much.
A while back I did this. Problem was my swing plane was incorrect. When I fixed my plane I started hooking the ball off the planet. Closing the face at address can help you in the middle of the round but in the long run, it is masking a fault.
@@clnorris82 I agree. I have done it as a quick fix and it helps, but you simply cannot hit it pure when doing it. The stronger grip it what fixed it for me. (lately anyway - lol)
@@perkyb1213 I would encourage you to also check your rotation. When I really got my shoulders rotated and felt a deep turn my ball striking improved tremendously and found that I did not need such a strong grip. Again, swing plane has a lot to do with this and Eric's video and teaching really got this squared away for me. Video is so important. I can't fix what I can't see and when I videoed my swings and posted to Eric's Facebook community he really dialed in the areas I needed to improve. in 30 days I have gone from a 15 to a 12 and trending lower because I am hitting more GIR.