Is Monster Hunter good at Final Bosses?
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- Опубликовано: 25 фев 2022
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The final boss tends to be the most iconic and memorable fight of any given game, for better or worse, but how does Monster Hunter go about it when the entire series is just boss fights. Join me as we take a look at a few of the most well known examples throughout Monster Hunter history and see how well Capcom rises to the occasion.
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I think Atlal Ka deserves a special mention, thematically and mechanically. The ultimate bait and switch. It doesn't have much build-up aside from a trailer and one line of dialogue, but that's its gimmick.
We were told to expect a living fortress that could disappear without a trace, only to find out that we're dealing with a golden mantis. It's not even Elder Dragon. But as soon as we change phases, we get to see that there is indeed a mechanical dragon, and Atlal Ka is the puppeteer. It can even use dragonators against you.
After defeating the mech twice, it collapses and blows sand all over. There's a slight pause in music. Eyes glow through the sand, Proof Of A Hero plays. The real battle begins.
Completely agree. It blew my mind when it transformed, and then when Proof of a Hero started playing in the final phase I laughed out loud.
Looking back at Rise, I think that Allmother was quite good for a final boss in an mh game. It had sufficient buildup, the mystery of the rampage until Ibushi was revealed, then the mystery of what Ibushi was doing until Narwa was revealed, then the eventual showdown against them both after the long wait wondering where the two of them are.
Yeah I absolutely agree, Narwa picked up Magnamalos slack for sure, I just personally wish it was part of the base game straight from release. I get why it wasn’t due to covid and everything but still.
@@PeakGinge Yeah, I do feel it's impact was a bit taken away from the months of waiting for it. Still a fun final fight, albeit not my favorite. I hope one day a final encounter can top my beloved Nakarkos.
Also Allmother has an amazing theme
Rampages are absolute shit
so happy that you picked Shagaru Magala as the best one it’s my favorite fight in GU with Valstrax 2nd
Shagaru just has an awesome arena with awesome moves, I enjoy that at some points he’ll mix up his landing with either a run or by zoning with projectiles all the while yelling and making the floor beam up with the frenzy virus that has you questioning and paying attention to your surroundings
truly a wonderful choice
Iceborne's fatalis and Alatreon can both be considered final bosses and both are some of the best dragon/boss fights in game history full stop. The challenge is here, it's fair, it's spectacular, the designs are god tier, and Fatalis at least has some lore to go with it and gets you invested.
and sharas ishvalda
I’d say Shara is the final boss, Fatalis and Alatreon are end game in ifeborne
Nakarkos is my favorite monster,
so much foreshadowing!
that low rank hunt makes you think that they couldn't possibly be powerful, and it lowers your expectations for your inevitable rematch.
The the High rank figh completely foored me, it obliterated my lowered expectations, especially if you read all quest descriptions like I did. It has even more of an effect!
Plus that design and lore/ecology is just hmmmm! Chef's kiss!!!!
Nakarkos certainly nails the atmosphere and is just a super unique design. It didn’t really fit into my script for this video but it’s a very cool final boss for sure. Also you have a very fitting name there sir!
Narwa the Allmother from Rise was definitely one my favorite final bosses in gaming. I’m surprised Narwa the Allmother wasn’t mentioned on this list.
I absolutely agree with Narwa being a good final boss, it just didn’t really fit in with what I was going for when writing the script. MonHun has alot of final bosses over the years and there’s alot to be said about each of them.
@@PeakGinge, I fully respect your decision to not include Narwa the Allmother. I really enjoyed her as the final boss of Rise because it truly tests the limits of your skills you learned throughout the game. Your skills with your chosen weapon, cooperation with your buddies, using hunting instillations, and mastering Wyvern Riding.
@@legomaster2538 Not sure about "test of skill". A friend of mine let me try Rise and Allmother was the very first monster I hunted in that game. It only took me 2 faints. One was a blunder because I was learning the new bug abilities on-the-go while fighting Ibushi, and the second was getting killed by Narwa's tail slam.
@@genkotone7979 you are very good at these kind of games then. However, your friend may also have had some really good gear normally only obtainable after beating the Allmother.
I love the Ceadeus fight just because of the sheer atmosphere of the whole encounter. I also think its a legit fun fight, but i think thats because i adapted well to the underwater controls, so i can see why some people dont look back fondly at him. Nice video anyways!
Definitely loved the atmosphere but I do hope they bring it back in a future game to improve the fight.
Gogmazios is one of my favourite final bosses ever, the sheer spectacle that feels ever escalating as you push towards the end with the absolutely terrifying introduction to the second phase, it’s amazing. And it plays proof of a hero, very important for me to love a mh final boss is proof of a hero being there
Plus theres really nothing quite like his fight, his skeleton was based off gores at the time unique skeleton, he has a unique gimic, he's the largest flying monster, we fight him in a great arena, and more, he's just great
Well, he plays proof of a hero if you hit the Demolisher
really waiting for that smash or pass video
Fatalis and AT Velkhana are both masterpieces
Satisfying back and forth I think I experienced with Zinogre in Iceborne
8:38-8:41: Imagine killing the embodiment of nature's wrath with a glorified yo-yo.
I totally agree with you on Shagaru, i would add the apex Seregios as a good end boss as it has a great build up and the monster itself is surprising (for me) at the end
On a side note yes Shagaru is not the hardest monster but man lvl140 one was a big challenge, one of the hardest 140 imo
Apex Seregios isn't the final boss. Rusted Kushala Daora is (for high rank village). Although not a lot people remember that since the fight isn't particularly hard.
@@S.I.L. Yes of course ! I thought it was fought before, nice catch, but the point still remain, because now we got 2 big enemies that had a significant impact in the game
A good question you could do a video on is how well future titles implement a previous game's final boss(es).
For example, Lunastra was the offline final boss of Dos, but due to being Village-only in the original game and introduced to the player before Teostra, she was seen as weaker than her male counterpart, who was *not* a final boss. World tried to rectify this, and it certainly succeeded at making Lunastra a harder fight than any Elder Dragon of the same "Kushala skeleton", but it ended up doing so in a way most players didn't find fun, arguably making her fight worse than when it was easier than Teostra.
Another standout example to me is Shagaru Magala in Sunbreak. While it could appear in the Everwood in 4, it's always been associated with a "single-area arena"-type map like most final bosses, even in Frontier and Explore.
Generations retained Shagaru's signature arena because it is a game directly celebrating the history of the Monster Hunter series, with monsters and locales from numerous past games. Sunbreak is not a Generations game, and it evidently does not take place anywhere near Heaven's Mount, so Shagaru doesn't get the Sanctuary at all. This makes it more akin to the aforementioned Lunastra in World as a returning former offline final boss that *doesn't* get special treatment in regards to where and how you fight it (not counting the repel quest that introduces Lunastra).
It feels like Shagaru was adapted in a much more tame way than Lunastra, likely because it was never competing with an exact counterpart in its debut game that the devs needed to make it distinct from.
Of course, there are also more famous examples like Fatalis, Akantor and Ukanlos, and Alatreon. There's also the other offline final boss with rare reappearances, Monoblos.
The reason fatalis didn't have much build up before the patch was because until after alatreon they had no intentions to add him. It was due to the community misunderstanding capcoms posts and thinking they were teasing him. After seeing how hyped the community was for fatialis they decided they can't just leave it at alatreon, so they made fatalis as a final update. He lacks buildup not because they wanted him to be a surprise, but because they didn't plan him.
They kind of ruined the “Shrouded Mystery” part for Dire Miralis with the 3U trailer showing Dire Miralis at the end.
I think a lot of people hated Xenojiva/Zorah is the same reason why you and many thinks Ceadeus is kinda boring. I think they were trying to go for the same feeling of going against a giant creature.
And I agree with what you said about Shagaru Magala.
I think they way they build up the tension and hype through storytelling using a mixture of cutscenes, videos and NPC dialogue is what made MH4U's Shagaru fight in Village so great. LR Village's ending video with that MH language song made me shred a few tears haha.
Btw, I suggest you to try MH Portable 3rd ( on PSP / PS3 ) with the English Patch made by fans !
It was kinda disappointing to me that you didn't mention the unique change ichinose director and his team did to Alatreon and a few other 3rd gen monsters, in your previous video about Alatreon.
Even Iceborne copied some of the ideas in terms of Hub designs and monster mechanics ! ( like The part where you deal damage to Alatreon's head to stop it from switching modes )
It's also a prototype for Generations and a concept for Rise if we think about it.
When I played 3U back in the day, I was so disappointed that many good QoL changes in P3rd were not carried into 3U. Just weapon rebalances and a few of many changes.
Yeah, Xeno and Zorah didnt really land either, completely agree.
As for Portable 3rd, I did import it and give it a shot aaaaages ago but without the English patch so I couldn't fully appreciate it and didn't finish the whole thing. I should go back to it at some point, I know how much folks love that game.
I honestly didn't expect to get a reply, thank you!
I also just noticed that you've made a video about shows on ABC Kids, are you from Australia as well?
Maybe I can help you set up Portable 3rd with the English Patch. You can contact me through the details I provided on my RUclips channel.
Zorah was deffinatly super underwhelming. esspecially when you had other better siege style fights. hell Jhen is so much cooler. Xeno was "ok" imo.. he at least felt like a fight unlike zorah but wasnt to difficult. but you want that difficulty for the final boss
Monster hunter on ps3!?
Xeno really just came out of fucking nowhere. And Zorah... while I liked the design, the fights were just tedious and boring. The mats aren't even any good once you get into the latter half of World!
Ahtal-kah is one of those 'unexpected' final boss fights that's was just incredible way to celebrate the series and was a nice send off to the old generations. Cedaus was my first though frankly saving loc lac from Jhen Morhan was alot of fun compared to fighting World Eater Deviljo... but yeah that preying mantis was one incredibly remarkable fight that has stuck with me just as much as those have.
Heya Man! I know I'm hugely from across the pond, but I'm so glad someone talks about Monster Hunter in Depth, and I would love to perhaps have a Skype call just chatting shit about how much work goes into these designs.
Heck, I did a 70,000k document on how much I love all of these designs.
I also love your art style and would love to maybe even work together at some point.
Have a fucking awesome day man, and I'll see you soon? 😊
(I sent this on insta, but I'm not sure you saw it. :) )
Dalamadur as a high rank boss was so good
While I still prefer other final bosses over it since, I have to give some credit to Xenojiiva. As the first final boss to a lot of new players brought into world including myself, Xenojiiva conveyed how insane we could expect the end tier monsters to get for the rest of the series. Sure we already fought elders like Kushalas tornados or Teostras novas but this ethereal almost alien like dragon emerges from the cocoon already around 3 times the size shooting Kamehamehas and erupting the earth. Sure its replay ability is hurt a bit for being a pretty slow fight with a lot of health once you learn it but on first runs, it felt like a war of attrition which is fitting for a climactically tense situation a final boss tends to be. Finding out all this unrefined power was just from a baby made so much sense yet ironically representing how he really was just the beginning for the insanity us fifth fleeters would soon experience in the rest of the series most of us grew excited to finally join in on.
I honestly believe that iceborne fatalis is the best fight of the entire series and something I think would have been cool if the game acutaly had a well written story is that we start our journey leaving the old world to go to New and we end up leaving the world to takle the oldest creature of the old world,
Just some fun themeing that I think they could have built on more I would like monster hunter to do story better like what they did in 4U which is why it's my favourite
I would really like to know how a fight with so many interruptions and possible rng carts (being too far away from the gate before the big flame starts casting) could be the best of the series. Nothing personal, i just cant wrap my mind around Fatalis being even top 5 fight of the series
@@raymundogonzalez2036 well I can only speak from my perspective and for me it was 2 reasons the build up and challenge
He's be far the hardest monster in the game one of the things I felt about world is is that is was a little on the easy side and fatalis fixed that is spades
As for the build up we waited so long with so many little hints and teases from both NPCs and the deva the hype was real for me and fatalis met that hype for me,
As for you being to far away from the gate I look at that as you gotta be aware if where your cover is and keep the fighting with distant but it can also be addrenilin inducing when you just get the gate up in time
@@stormerjc9493 He is bs hard tho, anti fun hard. He and many alatreon mechanics were Just beyond awful
@@Exel3nce i mean to each their on i guess i personally found the fatalis hunt to be heart pounding and exiting because i want to overcome a struggle in i largely blu through most of the game without much issue
@@stormerjc9493 i want that too, but being bs isnt the way.
Alatreon was that after one did overcome his stupid dmg goal
Wait if I’m correct I believe that fatalis was not in fact the final boss on mh1 rather I’m pretty sure it belongs to Lao I believe in order to unlock fatalis you had to kill a total of 100 monsters (he was sorta a secret monster) I’m not quite sure correct me if I’m wrong
First game i finished story was 3u and ceadeus was a good final boss for me. But 4u was my fave game and shagaru was amazing , one of my fave battles and overcoming gogmazios felt so good
Fatalis is i think best boss of gaming history.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make the
"Can Goku beat Lagiacrus?" video and the "Smash or pass Monster Hunter Monsters" one.
Gogmazios and IB Fatalis are my favorite final bosses of the series.
Would smash valstrax just sayin
Truuuuuueeeee
I'm gonna go hard, nerd rn, but technically, there are 4 flagship monsters in generations. Glavenus is just more popular 🤓
yes
Monster hunter asaid. The best final boss i ever fought is Ishin from sekiro . He will test you in everything youv learned he is the hardest boss. His desing is fantastic built up is rly strong. He is actualy surprise as last boss. He has beautiful arena. He is just perfection. But in monster hunter ofc shagura magala is fantastic low rank main boss and All mother narwa.
Magnamalo shouldn't be compared to Fatalis or Alatreon. It should be compared to Zinogre or Lagiacrus. And in it's correct weight class it's an 8/10 at least.
No credits-roller flagship has been truly bad.
rise fell flat with this, it had all the buildup and a good intro just to be a gimicky fight that offered absolutely no challenge, didnt even cart the first time i fought it, it feel victim to rises horrible ai and its mostly a sitting duck
3u was a joke. Ivory Lagi is simply the easiest monster in the game. I havnt fought dire yet but who has the time to solo grind till you can fight it? If ceadeus count that will be my first pick, even if it's tedious as hell they really make the atmosphere and music really epic it feels like you really had to kill the sea god itself for the sake of your people. But still overall they are more flawed, and the credits scene dont add anything just 2 goblin kids playing with mask while we got a festival with lots of people over the world participating in the other one.
P3rd in other hand is much better overall. While the story isn't as personal as 3u i think they did a great job at making zino and amatsu feels like mystical creatures just (super)naturally lurking in the woods(peaks in this case). Zino really make up by his cool moveset and transformation. Amatsu is still literally best boss fight in any game ever. The ambience at the starting area, it continues until he actually appeared. Actually i forgot how the music sounds while fighting it, the whole thing just awed me i guess. When you finally beat it, then a uniqe victory fanfare plays with sky become clears again, man people even classic mh fan who overlook this fight are literally world class criminal i swear.
MHW did that well with some monsters that pay you no mind until you attack them, after you hit them though they fight you immediately. some in MHW are aggressive on sight like teostra who is just like that in lore. Cedeus' theme doesn't do it for me, well made but not my style. i maintail that original fatalis is trash that was just the lore writers going too far to hyp him when the devs forgot to reign them in for what you got. god of monsters, no. god of dissapointment, yes. in MHW he's fun and actually lives up to his hype. he's another one who i dislike the theme though, to me it's ironic that lao shan lung, who's just running from fatalis, gets much more epic music. another case of them option for simplicity is tigrex, they thouhg kushala may have pushed things a bit too fantasy back then so for the next game they wanted to slow down. that's why we got a new skeleton that's just physical power, speed, and screaming. fatalis in MHWI was not planned at all, no clue what they originally intended but if it was a new black dragon i hope it's in sunbreak's final update if it has them or is just the final boss. the reason he was added to MHWI was them doing the render for anniversary to celebrate the series, not just wit the flagships but also the first final boss. this new look had people hoping and begging for him to come back so they caved but i'm fine with that. it proves they listen to us so don't cry about cross play/save. they'll do those at some point, maybe MH6 or portable 6th. 7th gen is the latest i'd expect but doubt it'll be that long.
What are you even brabbling
@@Exel3nce too much for you to understand?
@@jockpackage1770 if you write it in such a messy way, especially with saying some controversial stuff, ye
@@Exel3nce i mean address the point that are "controversial", you didn't so that's why i mocked the reply. you basically just said "you said a lot" and now you are saying you disagree so um specify and we can talk
@@Exel3nce ok if the controversial stuff is the music, that's just up to personal preference. they are well made but i just personally dislike those 2. if you like them that's fine, the rest of that comment was just actual dev history of the series, fatalis was added to IB only do to fan demand but was made better than the original and tigrex was intended to be a simple but effective design to not go too far into high fantasy MMO territory. i like trigrex and dislike aspects of both pre Rise versions of Kushala, i feel that Rise did the best job with him.
NOPE. Hate those stupid gimmick bosses.
The only thing that ever one shotted me in Rise + Sunbreak was some mouth attack with zero tell from Gaismagorm. Very boring to fight as they are too big to makes sense.
Tigrex, dude, "tee-grex" not "tai-grex".
Case and point.
People prefer calling him "tai-grex". Not a big deal if they choose to pronounce his name that way.
@@oodragonoo6702 So you are saying that being an uncultured hick is ok... ok.
Ah, so we have someone correcting an Australian saying it. We hear every other nationality butcher it, let us do so just once.
@@meikahidenori Hahaha ok, dude. Man, you have wuite the peppy attitude and i like it, cheers mate.
You do realize Dark Souls is harder right?
Who cares
Depends
I mean, yah if you're talking about the average fight. But 5th gen Fatalis is harder then any boss in Dark Souls. And a good % of Frontier's exclusive monsters are FAR harder then the hardest challenges you could give yourself in Souls. Looking at you Disufiora
But like, who cares.
@@elk3407 thats true, but fatalis is also bs and not fun ^^
@@Exel3nce He's extremely fair and it sounds like you just need to git gud