Why don’t we use a drop tank so the tanker can dump and be heading for more water instead of pumping off each load of water. Much faster and way more efficient. I come from a rural department and setting a drop tank and establishing a water supply is the key to fighting rural fires
You are correct. Especially with a barn fire that normally has a huge fire load. To counter that you need a large flow per minute. Something that is much harder to achieve if you aren’t using a portable pond operation to maximize speed of tanker offloading.
There is an update process going on throughout the county for those that use tankers as their only water method (no hydrant access). The first in engine drops going in, leaving their siamese on the end, so that the first in tanker can hook up to supply. That tanker then drops another lead with a siamese for 2 more tankers to hook into, and you can either, repeat this as you go down the line, and create multiple pump off ports (all going to that first tanker who’s supplying the scene for smaller fires) or , while tankers drop their porta tanks and set up a supply engine at the end of the driveway (which will hook into the other side of that siamese going back the driveway) for large volume water flow. It’s basically a hybrid system to get water into the scene while the dump site gets set up. It keeps the scene decluttered, so that the units back the driveway can operate. It’s also important to note, that this is also setup several hundred feet away from the driveway on either side to allow engines/trucks/rescues to get back the driveway if needed (say on a second alarm or up) where you might have 2-3 trucks flowing master streams from the aeriel to knock the bulk of the fire.
@@johngoglia-gh7qlI can see that LOL😂Usually Porta tanks are set up and each tanker then offloads with the large dump valves on the back or sides in under 2 minutes.😊
There is an update process going on throughout the county for those that use tankers as their only water method (no hydrant access). The first in engine drops going in, leaving their siamese on the end, so that the first in tanker can hook up to supply. That tanker then drops another lead with a siamese for 2 more tankers to hook into, and you can either, repeat this as you go down the line, and create multiple pump off ports (all going to that first tanker who’s supplying the scene for smaller fires) or , while tankers drop their porta tanks and set up a supply engine at the end of the driveway (which will hook into the other side of that siamese going back the driveway) for large volume water flow. It’s basically a hybrid system to get water into the scene while the dump site gets set up. It keeps the scene decluttered, so that the units back the driveway can operate. It’s also important to note, that this is also setup several hundred feet away from the driveway on either side to allow engines/trucks/rescues to get back the driveway if needed (say on a second alarm or up) where you might have 2-3 trucks flowing master streams from the aeriel to knock the bulk of the fire.
I don't understand the Tanker relay . looks like a lot of hose . Hook up and unhook to keep the water flow . It looks like to me if I would have been the first in I would have .set a Dump tank in front of the house had the Tankers bump and go refill . !
There is an update process going on throughout the county for those that use tankers as their only water method (no hydrant access). The first in engine drops going in, leaving their siamese on the end, so that the first in tanker can hook up to supply. That tanker then drops another lead with a siamese for 2 more tankers to hook into, and you can either, repeat this as you go down the line, and create multiple pump off ports (all going to that first tanker who’s supplying the scene for smaller fires) or , while tankers drop their porta tanks and set up a supply engine at the end of the driveway (which will hook into the other side of that siamese going back the driveway) for large volume water flow. It’s basically a hybrid system to get water into the scene while the dump site gets set up. It keeps the scene decluttered, so that the units back the driveway can operate. It’s also important to note, that this is also setup several hundred feet away from the driveway on either side to allow engines/trucks/rescues to get back the driveway if needed (say on a second alarm or up) where you might have 2-3 trucks flowing master streams from the aeriel to knock the bulk of the fire.
Lancaster County has a lot of smaller quarries throughout. Some of those already have hose connections and pumps installed. It's much easier running a tanker/pumper relay from one of these quarries to the scene. I'm not sure if this location had that available. They could have also been drawing from a local pond. I'll put Lancaster County, PA volunteer firefighters up against any volunteer company in the country. They have an outstanding training center. There isn't a weekend that goes by when there aren't several companies there training. Many nights during the week also.
It was set up so trucks can hook into it and pump till they are empty. Once empty, the truck leaves and the others are still flowing water without a beat.
There is no sense of urgency because the barn is already gone. Being from Boston, you get knocked on your face if you went to a barn fire. Being a predominately volunteer community, if a dept is out within 5 minutes of dispatch, you’re doing good. Then you might have that same amount of time to the scene, so you’re already 10 minutes behind the game with a large open air building, that is full of nothing but flammable materials, and by that point, it’s 90% gone and usually partially collapsed at the point (so a surround and drown, and keep from spreading) it’s not like this was a house fire that’s fully involved with triple entrapment on the 3rd floor.
I have a question do they not have a latter truck ? Because I don't see one , it would help to fight the Barn fire from above wouldn't it ! Just asking .
Amish community is a peaceful community til you hurt them. Quietly and vivious they return the favor otherwise.they bend over backwards to help not only their community but local English community
@@billdacitizan380 and it was a barn fire. Where in the title does it say it’s a video of it? Where does it say it’s an interior attack? Where does it say you’re going to see it? He’s the driver of the rig, his job is to stay at the rig and handle the water operations. Hence the CHANNEL NAME.
This is southern lancaster county, each department has a considerable amount of areas where they can pull water from, and rest assured they always go to the closest one. You will not run a half hr loop to fill tankers, ever. In fact, they have a rather large creek, within a mile and a half of the fire location, that is a fairly common fill site.
Indiana had tornado and lost the barn, shed for peeps, and hogs, carriage for buggy’s but still had the house and out door toilet. The Lancaster Amish learned and they went to Indiana and they helped to bring the barn, etc. I know cause I lived there and I know the family.
Wow. Just wow. Why do these trucks have dump valves if they don’t use them. Dump the water in the tanks like it’s supposed to be done. The relay engine will do the rest. No need for all this time, hose, and horse sh!t
filming was awful. I we saw was gauges, roadway, driveway, more gauges. Why run hoses so far when relay from tanker and trucks could be done much closer than clear out in the road. Poor response
Pretty sure it’s a GoPro attached to his gear. I’m sure the last thing he was worried about was making sure the camera was steady and getting all the “good shots”.
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Why don’t we use a drop tank so the tanker can dump and be heading for more water instead of pumping off each load of water. Much faster and way more efficient. I come from a rural department and setting a drop tank and establishing a water supply is the key to fighting rural fires
You are correct. Especially with a barn fire that normally has a huge fire load. To counter that you need a large flow per minute. Something that is much harder to achieve if you aren’t using a portable pond operation to maximize speed of tanker offloading.
There is an update process going on throughout the county for those that use tankers as their only water method (no hydrant access). The first in engine drops going in, leaving their siamese on the end, so that the first in tanker can hook up to supply. That tanker then drops another lead with a siamese for 2 more tankers to hook into, and you can either, repeat this as you go down the line, and create multiple pump off ports (all going to that first tanker who’s supplying the scene for smaller fires) or , while tankers drop their porta tanks and set up a supply engine at the end of the driveway (which will hook into the other side of that siamese going back the driveway) for large volume water flow. It’s basically a hybrid system to get water into the scene while the dump site gets set up. It keeps the scene decluttered, so that the units back the driveway can operate. It’s also important to note, that this is also setup several hundred feet away from the driveway on either side to allow engines/trucks/rescues to get back the driveway if needed (say on a second alarm or up) where you might have 2-3 trucks flowing master streams from the aeriel to knock the bulk of the fire.
If go around your ass to get to your elbow was a fire this would be it@@TheRealJesseStoltzfus
Yes sir I absolutely agree 💯 percent
Those trucks are magnificent!!
I am wondering if relay pumping at the fire scene was chosen because of the narrow roadway? Great scenery on the drive to the fill site!👍
ThAt area no hydrant
@@johngoglia-gh7qlI can see that LOL😂Usually Porta tanks are set up and each tanker then offloads with the large dump valves on the back or sides in under 2 minutes.😊
I’d like to ride those roads on my Harley!
There is an update process going on throughout the county for those that use tankers as their only water method (no hydrant access). The first in engine drops going in, leaving their siamese on the end, so that the first in tanker can hook up to supply. That tanker then drops another lead with a siamese for 2 more tankers to hook into, and you can either, repeat this as you go down the line, and create multiple pump off ports (all going to that first tanker who’s supplying the scene for smaller fires) or , while tankers drop their porta tanks and set up a supply engine at the end of the driveway (which will hook into the other side of that siamese going back the driveway) for large volume water flow. It’s basically a hybrid system to get water into the scene while the dump site gets set up. It keeps the scene decluttered, so that the units back the driveway can operate. It’s also important to note, that this is also setup several hundred feet away from the driveway on either side to allow engines/trucks/rescues to get back the driveway if needed (say on a second alarm or up) where you might have 2-3 trucks flowing master streams from the aeriel to knock the bulk of the fire.
@@TheRealJesseStoltzfus Thanks for the information! Makes perfect sense.
I don't understand the Tanker relay . looks like a lot of hose . Hook up and unhook to keep the water flow . It looks like to me if I would have been the first in I would have .set a Dump tank in front of the house had the Tankers bump and go refill . !
There is an update process going on throughout the county for those that use tankers as their only water method (no hydrant access). The first in engine drops going in, leaving their siamese on the end, so that the first in tanker can hook up to supply. That tanker then drops another lead with a siamese for 2 more tankers to hook into, and you can either, repeat this as you go down the line, and create multiple pump off ports (all going to that first tanker who’s supplying the scene for smaller fires) or , while tankers drop their porta tanks and set up a supply engine at the end of the driveway (which will hook into the other side of that siamese going back the driveway) for large volume water flow. It’s basically a hybrid system to get water into the scene while the dump site gets set up. It keeps the scene decluttered, so that the units back the driveway can operate. It’s also important to note, that this is also setup several hundred feet away from the driveway on either side to allow engines/trucks/rescues to get back the driveway if needed (say on a second alarm or up) where you might have 2-3 trucks flowing master streams from the aeriel to knock the bulk of the fire.
Lancaster County has a lot of smaller quarries throughout. Some of those already have hose connections and pumps installed. It's much easier running a tanker/pumper relay from one of these quarries to the scene. I'm not sure if this location had that available. They could have also been drawing from a local pond. I'll put Lancaster County, PA volunteer firefighters up against any volunteer company in the country. They have an outstanding training center. There isn't a weekend that goes by when there aren't several companies there training. Many nights during the week also.
Damest tanker shuttle I've ever seen and what was with the water relay?
It was set up so trucks can hook into it and pump till they are empty. Once empty, the truck leaves and the others are still flowing water without a beat.
is the date/timestamp correct?
No, camera issues. This is a 2023 fire.
Come to Boston and see how fast we move.
There is no sense of urgency because the barn is already gone. Being from Boston, you get knocked on your face if you went to a barn fire. Being a predominately volunteer community, if a dept is out within 5 minutes of dispatch, you’re doing good. Then you might have that same amount of time to the scene, so you’re already 10 minutes behind the game with a large open air building, that is full of nothing but flammable materials, and by that point, it’s 90% gone and usually partially collapsed at the point (so a surround and drown, and keep from spreading) it’s not like this was a house fire that’s fully involved with triple entrapment on the 3rd floor.
I have a question do they not have a latter truck ? Because I don't see one , it would help to fight the Barn fire from above wouldn't it ! Just asking .
Never get a truck company in there now, blocking the driveway…
It was there. The very first thing you see when the video starts is the ladder truck.
Literally the first thing you see when the video starts.
Why is it they dont seem to be in hurry ????
Be they aren’t. They don’t need to be. Job is only to supply water.
And the barn is already gone. You’re just there to keep it from spreading to something else.
They will be rebuilt in a week . ❤
Get seasick watching with this camera, would much rather someone focus on the FIRE.
I agree I was getting dizzy just watching this video.
You realize the channel name right? It means he’s the driver. They stay with the trucks and operate the pumps.
Amish will have a bigger better up in a week. Community comes out to help
Get the kinks out the hose lines🙈 and practice
Yeah kick out the kinks in the hose lines . At both the fill and dump site
No communication or electrical poles. Amish country❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Amish community is a peaceful community til you hurt them. Quietly and vivious they return the favor otherwise.they bend over backwards to help not only their community but local English community
I bet holiday season Amish community will hold supper feast at all response companies to say thank you.
Was goig to rewind to count the times around the truck, but lost interest. Shouldda shown the fire.
And how would he have done his job if he was walking around taking a video of the fire? You know what the channel name says right?
@@PTRRanger951 you know the title of the video right?
@@billdacitizan380 and it was a barn fire. Where in the title does it say it’s a video of it? Where does it say it’s an interior attack? Where does it say you’re going to see it? He’s the driver of the rig, his job is to stay at the rig and handle the water operations. Hence the CHANNEL NAME.
River by dam on rte 10 closest
This is southern lancaster county, each department has a considerable amount of areas where they can pull water from, and rest assured they always go to the closest one. You will not run a half hr loop to fill tankers, ever. In fact, they have a rather large creek, within a mile and a half of the fire location, that is a fairly common fill site.
Amish community for decades asking local government to install water tower thru the farm areas
Indiana had tornado and lost the barn, shed for peeps, and hogs, carriage for buggy’s but still had the house and out door toilet. The Lancaster Amish learned and they went to Indiana and they helped to bring the barn, etc. I know cause I lived there and I know the family.
Now I know why I saw smoke
Wow. Just wow. Why do these trucks have dump valves if they don’t use them. Dump the water in the tanks like it’s supposed to be done. The relay engine will do the rest. No need for all this time, hose, and horse sh!t
Cause u need engine at the take to push water to in charge engine
filming was awful.
I we saw was gauges, roadway, driveway, more gauges. Why run hoses so far when relay from tanker and trucks could be done much closer than clear out in the road. Poor response
Cameraman, don’t lose your day job……
Pretty sure it’s a GoPro attached to his gear. I’m sure the last thing he was worried about was making sure the camera was steady and getting all the “good shots”.
One of the saddest fire departments ive seen!!
Well, there‘s nothing to be happy about when someone‘s livelihood is burning😡
Don’t you just Love that since Of urgency in these guys…. 🔥🔥🦧🦧🦧👺👺👺👺
@MoparGuy1625 yes smart ass. 🦧🦧🦧👺👺👺👀