Rebuilding A Flooded $2,000,000 McLaren P1 | Part 10
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Bro, all the people saying how "it's not a real p1 anymore" do not matter.
I'm excited to see how this works out off the line, and in handling characteristics.
Great video! Glad you are ditching the hybrid system! :)
Please weigh everything you remove. You will make others jealous.
I would use the Fueltech ecu/dash just in case you want to use that hybrid system in the future.The ft600 or the new ft700 they have canbus and provisions for hybrid to do a custom setup that may be better than what was in there along with Rich! That would be dope he did find a better battery pack. Now that would be crazy!😅
I bought the Carly a year ago I use it all the time and I regret it. I don't think it's all its hyped up to be. Sorry Freddie
Really disappointed the hybrid-electric feature is being dropped....a big part of what made the P1 special.
Agreed it's not quite a P1 without it somehow..?
Over 150k for a new one is hard
This is some b is for build shit. Not a fan.
@@WillAleeLiftsI'd love to see him building it better
@@WillAleeLiftshe’ll lose triple that in lost value of the car
Was looking forward to seeing the hybrid system rebuilt. Would love to see that replaced as that is what made it unique.
Im sure he'd be glad to with your funding!
Let me know when you do it to your P1 and we will watch
People in the comments should see this as positive this is the best and first P1 in the world without the hybrid system making the car more lighter and powerful in the world a 1 of 1 car and amazing for track use
It's just a Mc P now.
Exactly.......guess he didn't have that "Hypercar Money"
Used to work on the body assembly line at McLaren in Woking and the rear sub frame was measured onto the car. Re-bolting the car back on will be interesting as the rear suspension fixing points were all measured to +- 1mm. So much gets bolted onto something else on the rear sub frame so needs to be exact for reassembly of the whole back end.
How much adjustment can be made on where the rear subframe is bolted?
Hey Freddie, at first I was a little disappointed that the hybrid system had to go, but after watching Rich's video on the logistics of the P1's hybrid tech and what it would take to get the system working even as well as it did from the factory. I agree that it makes no sense to do anything with the hybrid system besides take it out and save the weight. If there's anything I could suggest, it's to use the IPAS button on the wheel to instead stand for "Insanely Powerful Anti-lag System", if you catch my drift. I hope more people go and watch Rich's video on everything because his explanation clarified so much about the P1. Can't wait for the next part to come out!
It's remarkble to me that sand continues to fall out of every nook and cranny even after all the work you've done. What an undertaking.
Yeh this car needed taking apart fully and everything cleaned seems hes rushing this to get to sema. But at what cost as ive seen some major backlash in comments for removing the hybrid system i feel hes probably lost a lot of viewers on this series now due to that one decision
It's even falling out of the nether regions of people sooking about the hybrid crap. 😂
@@Raysboostin the hybrid system makes it a lot faster and more driveable. Without it, as in the Senna, even with McLaren's expertise in tuning and throttle mapping, there's a lot more turbo lag. That torque fill makes the P1 pull seamlessly from idle in first gear to redline in top.
Same thing happens to me after a long day of a Beach Volleyball Tournament ...
There will always be some sand in this car now. If you’ve ever shattered a window in your car, the situation is the same
Hey, I was just gonna comment about the sadness after eagerly watching this series come to a sad ending. The hybrid system is certainly complex, but like everyone says, without it, it's just a car. Hope you have a change of heart brother.
I speak for many viewers when I say we want a raw beast of a P1 with every part enhanced and tuned properly. Including the hybrid drive
He's not so get over it.its coming out.
@@jerrywilcox9890no he will be making a battery p1 … just building the hype first
Everyone saying you gonna unsubscribe or lost interest in his whole channel, just because of 1 really smart decision, really just need to not comment at all lol. I don’t know much about anything close to these guys on this car or any car for that matter, just that it looks cool and sounds sick asf lol. But having watched tavarish since the pimp my ride car I’ve seen him make a lot of decisions he regretted and on the other side is happy in. So I trust that this was the best decision and doesn’t change my interest in this build. I mean the main goal was to get the P1 running again and if he can in some cases better. Some of you guys seemed to set a self expectation of him restoring it OEM condition? That was never possible in the first place nor was he going to do that lol. And some people that are well knowledgeable in this argue removing the hybrid does make the car preform better so not really much of a loss so don’t see the big hoorah and hive mind thinking in this comment section.
All the power to you and your crew @tavarish.....keep up the phenomenal work!!!
I was really hoping the stuff from V Engineering you showed was going to go into this car; however if the whole hybrid system is shot, and not just the battery and a few other pieces, I understand if it's essentially not doable. If it's remove the hybrid, or the car never runs again, then fully support removing the hybrid system. If it's a race to get it done for SEMA, eh, rather see the hybrid stay. Either way, a very cool project.
No my guess is lack of money (because he under estimated the damage\costs) or lack of time because he is committed to some company to SEMA.
The critical part of the system IS the battery ,the rest is about money and time to get electronics and hardware.
Just prey this is not some silly YT "drama" or even worst half assing the car for some show off in video,like many car YTbers usually do.
Even if he doesn’t install the hybrid system now, I hope he can do it at a later date. A P1 without the hybrid drive system is like a PB&J with no J.
@@Fhwgads11it'll at least be lighter and have more power from only the ICE. Sure it was unique at the time to be a hybrid but not so much anymore. Though it'll probably lose the throttle response and im not sure how the tcu will like it since the motor helped with shifting. Either way it'll still be a unique p1.
@@cumbobvery nice response, especially ditching the hybrid components, the TCU will definitely take a big shot to properly engage the entire car
I don't think it will lose the throttle response, turbo tech has come a long way in 10 years, and with upgrades to the engine and turbos it will be freaking fast@@cumbob
I haven't the slightest clue how you keep track of all the bolts, nuts, fasteners (not to mention literally EVERYTHING else) in order to reassemble this thing... at some point. I am fully engaged in this rebuild! You are one brave individual to take this on!!
Apparently removing the most unique thing about the P1, makes keeping track of stuff a lot easier.
@@xhorxhi77bro it costs 160 or something grand fuck paying that id rather it without it so that its ore unique
Removing it makes it even more unique@@xhorxhi77
He has more baggies than a coke dealer
@@nathanthecarguy4852 bro, he’s already got a fucking McLaren with a TT V8, do u understand the P1 is defined by the hybrid system
I am always super impressed with the choices you’re making and also the regress, I mean progress, so far!! All joking aside, I love watching you and the team slowly succeed at this absolutely crazy improvement project!! You are nuts without a doubt, but so fun to watch!! I think this 1 month deadline cannot be possible…can it? I saw the miles and miles of wiring you removed! We all did, but you’ve impressed (aka shocked) me before, so I am ready to see you succeed again! Good luck Tavarish!
I watched Rich’s video explaining this situation regarding the P1 too. I’m totally standing by your decision to remove the hybrid system, and I cannot wait to see the fastest P1 ever when you finish. You’re totally going to succeed when you remove the 400 lbs of weight the hybrid system was adding
I know it's difficult, but I wish you had tried to rebuild the battery system.
Easier said then done
I fully understand why he ditched it - also the electric power was only meant to help with 0-60 or 0-100 time - but not sure how he is going to start the car because the hybrid battery started the car via the starter motor
i wish u watched the video.
i know... this is no longer a P1...
Agreed, It's Rebuild mate, not home brew, as said we know it has it's challenges, but it would be better if you built it with it
A p1 without the hybrid system is just a stroked 675 with a fancy body kit.
I cant wait to see the end result, but I hope theres a way to keep the hybrid system
Of course there's a way, at least 160k usd way 😂. Probably he's running out of time for battery and hybrid system rebuild. Even custom aftermarket battery one must be extra carefully built if he's not intending to built p1 shaped barbeque grill.
No value in keeping it as a hybrid. Tavarish knows what he is doing.
Actualy a 12c
“Great thing about this is everything here is made of razor blades” 🤣🤣🤣🤣 you killed me with that line lmaooo I felt that from the heart keep going man we all want to see this car happen frfr
Apparently, all the people are complaining that the hybrid system will be ditched but most of them have no idea what rebuilding a car means, the time, the money, planning, sourcing everything so @tavarish don't let this affect you! I can't wait to see it back on the road! That's the goal and I'll enjoy it all the way!
Will be interesting to see if dropping the hybrid drive effects the video numbers .
As its definitely something that was making it more interested than normal for me
Same
It will, who knows if Ill keep watching to be real😂
I was thinking the same thing…
The videos come out, rarely enough to keep me interested in the channel but I’m not really a hyper car person so hearing he was dropping the hybrid system on this pretty awesome build. I just stopped the video right after that and I probably won’t come back to it.
yeah i will not watch any more :/
Hey man, what happened to that British guy who was designing a new battery system for the P1 from a few episodes ago? That could be a cool way to get back in the hybrid hypercar game 😉
Probably not enough time to build it before SEMA. And also he doesn't only need a battery but the whole wiring harness and control unit as well which doesn't come cheap nor fast. The electric motor itself must be busted as well. Maybe down the line he'll thinking to put it back if the cost are making any good YT business sense.
He needs to team up with musk and put a plaid motor into this thing, imagine the horsepower
I thought that episode was 100% teasing what was going to be dropped into this car
@@ardijanuar2036 I don’t buy the whole SEMA deadline argument. Broski ran out of money. Which is understandable, and I don’t blame him. Though it would be nice if he just admitted that the hybrid system cost is prohibitive
I have been watching since the beginning of the P1 series. I absolutely support the hybrid delete; it's dated tech, especially considering how many downsides there are compared to the few (maybe one) upside. Don't listen to the hate; some people are just... weird.
People crying for a gimmick, is just a electronic nitro but way heavier.,
Go for it Tavarish, i'm cheering for your build,,
Hey Tavarish,
you might want to talk to guys from TSK channel. They have a ton of experience and a bunch of creative friends, all involved in a wrecked EV restorations. They should be able to help you with battery tech. Their main shop is up in Ukraine, but they also have a branch here in LA.
Don't ditch the hybrid drive and give TSK a chance to help you. You won't regret this.
its already all gone.
@shady9016 How can you be so sure? Everything can be restored by the right hands.
He will regret it. Battery technology is not the same as ICE. Unfortunately, electric cars will fail because we are pushing too hard, way beyond the development curve. Not everyone is flush with cash. Indeed, hardly anyone is.
he got on month to complete this project
SEMA event nuked this project cuz of a deadline. I too was hopeful to see Freddy fix and modify the P1 capability
One of the best things about this build is all the people your getting to show on here like the Carbon guy an the powder coating guy , seeing these small businesses in the auto field is pretty cool.
Don't forget the rich rebuild 😀 guy for the battery pack...
I think most people are bummed to not see the hybrid system going back in because of how interesting the rebuild part of that system would be, we like to see you build and overcome challenges and omitting a big part of it makes the job less interesting
Its not that he doesn't want to do the challenges, think about it financially, a new system is around 160k, and if you watch rich rebuilds video regarding this, you would realize that compared to todays standards on modern technology, the hybrid system isnt really good. It'll only give a small boost of 170hp for a time that depends on how long a button is pressed and how long the battery is charged, making it not really efficient. It also added weight which is another reason why he made this decision
I get that part too, but Tavarish is also in a unique spot in that the more unique and complicated the build, the more interesting the videos are, and hopefully that leads to more views and subscribers? I don't disagree that from a cost and performance standpoint he's better off, but that isn't the only factor, at least in my opinion.@@cowsarecool2233
@@cowsarecool2233 couldn’t he make his own hybrid system with off-the-shelf parts? Or maybe hire a consulting electrical engineer to do a custom job if the task is too complex?
I’m sure there are a ton of electrical, electronic, and computer engineers here on RUclips itself who would absolutely *crush* this project.
Tavarish should have hung in there a little more because to me he still had options.
Well true, but he already stated he wanted to make this a one of a kind P1 with less weight (meaning to remove batteries) and more speed@@bhuuthesecond
@@cowsarecool2233 I think a mid engined twin turbo V8 hyper car is way less interesting and special than a hybrid hypercar.
The former has already been done many times already, with plenty of great factory and tuner examples. Meanwhile with a hybrid hyper car the P1 is one of only 5 examples if I’m not mistaken.
And it’s not like the P1 had to have a weight reduction because it needed more speed. Stock the car is faster than most people are physically able to drive. Why improve on something that’s more than perfect?
I really don’t get the direction Tavarish is taking this project. But having said all of that, this is not my car or my money. So he can do whatever he wants!
Hey Freddy, just wanted to say all the people crying about you removing the hybrid system don't know what they're talking about...dumping all that extra weight and complexity out of an already immensely complex project can only be a winning move for your P1. I hope everything comes together in time for sema. Keep up the great work brother, God bless!
Damn can’t believe you are ditching the hybrid system.
Me too🙄
Guess getting another battery from Steven Hamilton wasn’t gonna work out since he sold the car.
He can save some moneg now! Just take the 675 lt engine he rebuild and put it on P1 body and called it P 675lt cause that's not a P1 anymore let alone P1 evo
PLEASE don’t ditch the hybrid drive. It’s what makes this car truly special and in my opinion it’s no longer really a p1 without it. Will be watching the series through regardless but like many others would love to see the hybrid come back. Much love ❤️
@@UwU-pk6nv the hybrid system powers IPAS and thats what makes the p1 quick off the line. Your opinion is baseless junk and freddy is blowing it.
I was just about to say this. Without the hybrid system it's just another McLaren. I really thought he was going to keep it. Especially since a few videos back he met with that company who is making replacement battery packs for the P1 using current day battery tech. Edit: "In October 2013 customer deliveries began and the P1 became the first hybrid supercar in the world." - McLaren.
EV's and Hybrids are proving more and more of a mentally-devolved napkin idea. None are Practical nor even remotely "Green". They'll all be grazing in the Tall-Grass in just a few years. Even this P1 was turning into a "Pee-Juan". Smart move ditching the Hybrid system!!
LOL!! at least Elon used you Volt-Dolts to fund his real love, SpaceX. 🤣
you should watch a prius rebuild instead lol
@@datapusher-OG , why don't you buy your own and build it the way YOU want?
It will for sure be the fastest, most unique and maybe even the most reliable P1 on the planet, can't wait to see it finished! GO FOR IT!
Watching this series reminds me of that show Home Improvement where Tim Allen rebuilt a hot rod over the course of the series. I'll definitely be looking forward to the final results!
I understand why youre making the choice.......but what made the P1 special was the hybrid system. When it came out, that was something everyone praised and alongside the La Ferrari (Ferrari The Ferrari) and the 918 really changed the hypercar market and standards of speed. Its absolutely your car and your build, I just feel like youre missing out on a really big component that makes the P1 a P1 and made it special.
Edit: Also the weight and balance of the car might be significantly off. Might be worth putting something in that gap jut as heavy to keep a bit of that balance if you plan on taking it to the track.
I’m really hoping he’s gunna be like SIKE DID YOU REALLY THINK ID BUY A P1 AND IT NOT BE A HYBRID?! It seemed those guys in the uk were working on a system but who knows. You literally might not just be able to get the parts. And if you can, they may be too much money. We really don’t know. Here’s to hoping it ends up a hybrid as it should be.
@@spicytuna604 Yeah, I understand it might be too time-consuming and/or expensive.....but its a P1 lol. Its gotta have a hybrid system in my opinion. Again, I really want to clarify I understand it's his car, his money, his build. so nobody yell at me and get pissed, I just would have liked to see it included and think its not really a P1 without it. You cant replace the things a hybrid does for a hypercar. Especially in a P1. It was designed around that hybrid system.
Ok Freddy. You win, I watched Rich Rebuilds video and he really laid it all out as to why if you really want to build a better and fast(est) McLaren then the battery has to go. I’m with you now and in full support. Let’s finish this monster my man!!
It may as well be DDEs "720s GTR" lol. Custom carbon body and over 1000+horsepower. Either way it'll still be cool.
Looking forward for this build and good to see you are making one of a kind.
Some of y'all had high expectations and were dissapointed when he decided to abandon the hybrid system. I was as well, but that doesn't mean you should be so hard on the guy. I mean, he's doing something that was NEVER done before and had the guts to do it! I praise you @Tavarish and don't even care whether it's hybrid or not it's totally up to you and I get that. Wish you only the BEST out of this! Great f*cking job dude!! You're the man!
I think you you may as well have put a p1 body kit on the 675 if your ditching the hybrid system. I understand why you did it and that it may well be quicker than a stock p1 but the hybrid is what made the p1 unique in the McLaren line up.
I really miss the „Building it better“ here.
There is no vision, other then Turbos and Carbon Spoilers/Bodykit.
I think losing the hybrid system is a big mistake. I don't think it's really even a P1 at that point. It's your car and you're doing the rebuild, but I was really looking forward to seeing the hybrid system get built (upgraded?) and put back in.
It literally isn't a P1 without the Hybrid system. Without it, it's basically a 675LT with some fancy upgrades.
@@ernieoporto1111 I agree. He got a P1, gutted it and used the P1 chassis to make something else.
I watched this the other day, then happened to see Rich's video. Tavarish, do what you need to do, I'm a Brit and a McClaren fan, I don't see anything wrong with making the P1 better than stock.
Your Car, your channel, your money, your way! can't wait for episode 11.
Love you man!
Reading my mind man i hate that he gets all thaz nonsense hate now
Purists would argue this ain't P1 without the hybrid system (and there's value to the argument), however I'd rather see this vehicle driven regularly on the streets than a manicured P1 sitting locked up in a garage 95% of the time. Plus, for regular folks who don't care so much about car internals it won't make any difference. Keep up the good work mate!
Well that marks the end of a P1, the birth of the Mclaren 1000s. to be honest probably my own opinion the hybrid aspect of this build is probably the sole reason many people were looking forward to this build, i just couldn’t wait to hear him say “Mow its time to install the battery”
Screw finishing it until sema but please rebuild the hybrid system
Love the build otherwise
The issue is not only will it cost more then the car that he got it for, it get complicated and then comes the battery cell work, it be good for a future build, but just getting the car to run is more important the having to rebuild from the ground up a whole new hybirdation system
Yes!
@@JohnnyLightningV10truth
WOW! people are really harsh and entitled a about RUclipsrs content decisions 🙂
"Just pump another 150.000 dollars in your car because I said so"
We can all be armchair critics here, Hybrid System / Non Hybrid System what does it matter. But the one thing that is important and does matter is that this P1 is going to be saved, without Tavarish this would just have ended up as a parts car, or crushed. It is not our money putting this back on the road, so we have no right to criticise the decisions Tavarish makes regarding the rebuild. If you don't like it go watch something else. Keep up the good work Tavarish cant wait to see it on the dyno.
I think you're doing the right thing, for all the reasons that Rich so eloquently laid out. Your 675 is beyond stunning, it's one of the most beautiful cars I've ever seen and I can't wait to see what you do with the P1.
Also, it's your car and you can do what the hell you want with it.
Looks like everyone has unanimously decided that ditching the battery was a mistake…😂😂😂
Keep crying 👍😎
Do you want him to go p-broke
It’s now jus a P.5
Tavarish replied to another comment here saying “It will be better” when referring to their disappointment in the removal of the hybrid system, but there’s nothing he could do to make a P1 better after removing the hybrid system completely. Of course it's his car, he can do hat he wants with it. When he talks about how he wants it to be faster then all other P1's and wants to make the "best version of the P1", and then does something like this, removing a crucial part of what makes it a P1, people's reactions are 120% valid. Everyone feels this way because of the expectations he set. This just doesn't feel good. I hope the project goes well still, and I can't wait to see how it turns out, but calling it a P1 still after removing the Hybrid system just isn't going to be true anymore.
@@ernieoporto1111you don’t need outdated battery tech to make this car amazing. He didn’t set out to restore it to factory settings. Y’all set yourselves that expectation
DAmn NOOOOOOO, this is exactly what I prayed wouldn't happen . I was looking forward to seeing how much better it would be battery wise when u used todays tech not what came on the car 14 years ago... Plus it really is one of the awesome features of this car...
Exactly, now quite disappointed..Ugh
@@Kigoz4Life watch the video on the battery he did, they say the technology in the batteries is 13 years or more old. The car may be only 10 but it had to be dreamed up, then designed and refined over years or development and testing. The battery storage was planned years before the first P1 physically rolled off the assembly line. The Lithium storage technology in the last 15 years has moved at a pace that is so quick that by the time they started to actually manufacture that first P1 and all that would come to follow, the technology in the electric hybrid system was already on the way to being considered obsolete in all those cars...
The car might of been state of the art but it's power storage technology was quickly becoming antiqued at a significant rate due to advancements being made all the time in that field...
@@gamersplaygroundliquidm3th526 And that why the company he went to in the earlier videos has made their own battery with newer tech for a fraction of the price. The parts were there and much cheaper then OEM. Same place he got the whole body from.
So disagree...........hate this garbage electric crap.
yep, series basically ended for me here, him saying he would restore the car and make upgrades and now he ditches the hybrid system, what a downer... but hey he likes to cut corners anyways (from what i have seen from his other video's) and i personally would never buy a car of him.
It is your car, your massive project and get the job done. I am looking to forward to continue to watch the videos of this fabulous project.
Can’t wait to see what you end up doing with YOUR P1!
I’m not sure I like the idea of no hybrid at all. You might as well have made a 675LT or even a 650s the fastest mclaren out there at that point. The hybrid system was the bread and butter of the holy trinity. Its barely a P1 without the hybrid system. Hell put an LS in it at this point and save some time and money.
Yeah. The hole point of this build being “impossible” was the level of complexity of the car.
I will watch the video. But I don’t see the difference between this McLaren and the 675 that he just rebuild.
100%. The build is pretty much pointless now. The whole point was to have his dream mclaren p1 hyper car. Like you said now its gonna be no different then a 650s that's modded a bit
I agree it would be better to miss SEMA this year if he must to make the hybrid work.
No, a Hybrid on a sports car is useless, besides he changing the whole look ... Hybrid system is only good for 25 miles or less
It’s a P1 Devo now. It’s devolved into a lower model.
Bit shocked at the hybrid system being ditched tbh, going to be interesting seeing how the build continues and finding out what you are going to do with the engine. Good luck with the rest of the build and looking forward to what comes next 👍
Wow! Carly is the best thing i have evr seen. Always struggeled a bit with prigrammung. But its so easy with that tool. ❤
Keep it up this series has been amazing so far. I trust your vision
Not to rebuilt the battery is probably a mistake that you will regret in a couple of weeks/months.
Hope you change your mind and rebuild the battery system aswell.
You have to rebuild the hybrid system. It’s what united the LaFerrari, P1 and 918 Spyder and made them unique.
Watch the rich rebuilds video on it and you'll see why he removed the hybrid system
Just because the top gear boys did those three cars, doesn't mean Freddy can't build his dream car as he wants.
Wouldn’t be surprised if Freddie actually starts a mini-trend here. As we now know, too many owners getting screwed by the hybrid drive…
John said, “I do!” I completely FELT THAT.
People who complain are always louder than the ones who like, what they see. I personally really LOVE the idea of saving weight in a car that's meant to be lightweight. "Oh no, this is not a P1 then" - True, it's a P1 evo. Removing the system is part of the concept of making it the successor of the F1.
As soon as I learned there won’t be a hybrid system my interest has absolutely plummeted. That was the coolest and biggest challenge, now it’s just like every other car mod or build.
Now it’s basically almost the same as his 675 project.
Agreed. Even though I admire all the work that has gone into the car so far, the moment T said he was going to ditch the hybrid system I stopped watching. It killed my interest immediately even though I understand how expensive and challenging it would have been to get the system to work.
@@DgtlOutcstare you going to finance it?
@@akastixx I understand it would be very expensive. But why even spend half a million on a wrecked P1 knowing the hybrid system would be a nightmare. It's just any other McLaren build in a very expensive shell now making it pointless in my opinion. Almost as pointless as your comment.
Yes, basically no different than a Pinto.
Man the hybrid is one of the key components to the P1. I was really looking forward to seeing this rebuilt, this really takes the "coolness" out of this build now.
what is not cool about an electric motor system making half the power of a Honda civic while being half the weight of one being pulled from a salvaged super car?
@@owkelpton 1) The most powerful civic (type r) only makes 315 bhp and weighs 1320kg. 2) the P1's battery produces 170 bhp and weighs 106kg OR if you get Mclarens newest version weighs just 50kg.
So in conclusion the Type R Civic makes 239 bhp per ton, whereas the P1's battery alone makes 3400 bhp per ton. Bit of a difference than "half the power of a civic whilst being half the weight of one"
@@owkelptonbut he teased in earlier videos about how small and powerful the newer versions are. I felt like he was building up to a brand new system install.
@@Narthalionyou gotta compare motor to motor + battery. The K20C1 weights about 183kg with the gearbox, about 120-130kg without it. More hp per KG. Much better to loose the weight of the hybrid system and just pour that money into the engine and make much more power without significantly more weight.
@@514aam oh I’m aware of that, I was just responding to the idiotic claim about it being half weight and half the power of a Honda civic, anyone who thinks that hybrid drive assembly weighs in excess of 650kg is mental.
Honestly Freddie yeah the car might not have been originally designed without the hybrid assembly it is part of what made it the holy trinity, but I personally love your decision it will make it unique and for of a true successor to the F1 in my eyes keep up the good work and don't listen to the haters
This is by farr my favourite yt series keep going man its gonna be awesome
Really disappointed that the hybrid system isn’t being repaired, but you know what… I wouldn’t have the kahonies to do what you’re doing! It’s going to be amazing and a seriously impressive achievement. Keep wrenching every day ✌️
"kahonies"
The word you're looking for is "cojones"
@@redheadmetalhead247real word is balls 😂
@@Ameyzinng1 TIL Spanish is not a real language.
Love this rebuild but like most of us watching it’s tough to hear that the hybrid system is getting removed. I feel like that’s what makes the P1 special and If I had to vote for a sema appearance or the hybrid system being rebuilt, I’d 100% go for the hybrid system rebuild. If money is the problem and there was an option to donate to support the hybrid rebuild, I would donate immediately.
Exactly
Couldn't disagree more. It's the aero and the 900hp that makes the P1 special. If you can get that through engine mods rather than the heavy hybrid system bring it on!
@@Gorbyrev I see your point, I’ve always looked at the p1 as a hybrid tho. Everyone has their own opinions, just wanted to voice my own.
@@GorbyrevI understand what you are saying, but my two cents is that the p1 should remain hybrid because that’s what the other two competitors of the holy trinity are, HYBRIDS! For the time the car was released, the hybrid technology was what made the trio of hyper cars special, so I think Freddy should save the hybrid
Tough to hear?
Why is everyone crying about it like someone died or something
Its not tough to hear
That car could have been at a junk yard being crushed rn
Tavarish is giving it a second chance
Please don't let Livingroom critics make you feel as though you SHOULD build with the battery pack, it's your $$$$$ Tav.....add some beef to engine and SEND IT!!! 🙂
Freddy, I think you have made the perfect decision. Rich from Rich Rebuilds agrees. The Hybrid system on this car is just a gimmick that can be a nightmare to repair or replace. That was my biggest reason that I thought this car was not rebuildable. It's your car and you build it the way you want it. Use the little Boost Button on the dash to shoot Nitrous into the system. That will give you that extra HP that the Electric Hybrid system used to. Removing that rear subframe and cleaning all the sand out is a great idea because the aluminum will continue to corrode if exposed to salt and rain water.
Did Steve Hamilton not selling you the battery pack from his P1 force this decision? I'm sorry but this is just going to end up being a 650S in a P1 suit. I was hoping this was going to be a super powerful fully functioning P1 hybrid system.
Oh man. The hybrid system really helps make this car what it is. It’s unfortunate that it’ll be removed. Pretty rad that it’ll be so much lighter though. Better get the suspension tuned accordingly!
It'll be just like DDEs "720s GTR " with the custom carbon body and 1300hp. Just costs $300k more lol
can't wait to see the final result great idea to remove the hybrid and save some money , time and weight GOOD LUCK FREDDY, and thanks for the content.
For those saying they are disappointed about the hydrid...that it makes a P1 special. Well, now it's going to be extra special. The only one without a battery.
And regarding him losing money on the value of the car, his youtube views and sponsors money has probably already paid for the car. If not, very close to it. He is averaging close to 2.5 million views on each video of this series.
I'm with everybody else, it being a hybrid is what made it special. I know it would be a lot of a work and expensive, but once you have it back form Cema I would love to see you move towards putting that system back in.
@UwU-pk6nv keep pretending like you know things 🤡
@UwU-pk6nvoh look another hybrid/ev hater
@UwU-pk6nvyou do realize the hybrid system is what gives the car instant torque that made it different from every other McLaren💀
I want to see him put extra fuel cells where the batteries and drive system was and Freddy and Ed do a cannon ball run in it while it's all blackout carbon fiber cops wouldn't know what the hell just went screaming past them at night
@@firstnamelastname-ur2nw Oh look another ignorant Volt-Dolt that still can't comprehend that:
#1-EV's aren't remotely practical nor "green".
#2-Hype-brids are just another 3D-TV type fad.
#3-Both will soon be grazing in the Tall-Grass behind "Earl's Shop". 🤣
I truly understand the reasons behind your decision, but the complexity associated with the hybrid system build was the main reason for watching this series😢finger crossed for putting it back and having a true P1 😅
The car is going to be stupid fast even without the hybrid system. Faster than stock. I see no problem deleting the system. Keep it up, i’m really enjoying this series!
This is the way. Watched Rich’s video on it. Makes total sense
A little disappointed to see the hybrid system go, but I'm this build will continue to be interesting nonetheless. I do question though. Although the car will now weigh much less, doesn't the battery add to the car's structural rigidity? Isn't that now lost without the battery?
im guessing you can just make a titanium brace thats gonna be just as rigid and much lighter than the battery pack
@@JohnnyLightningV10
You sound like a nice chap Johnny.
@@JohnnyLightningV10no one really cares johnny
@@JohnnyLightningV10 The original video had almost 5M views, theres been less views on every video following the reveal. It doesnt matter what he does at this point, people are losing interest regardless. Maybe deleting the hybrid system will make people come back out of spite lmao
Was looking forward to seeing the latest battery tech in the hybird system would have made this an absolute monster
Shoot lets cough up about 200k and consider it more than done after sema
Did you watch the last episode? It would be cheaper to build a new battery than buy one from Mclaren
@@CGCTV im sure the battery isnt the only issue with the system overall though which is why he hasnt considered it, not to mention its gonna take time and effort he cant spare in the moment.
Something pretty sad about someone dickriding hybrids.
@@CGCTV Not sure it's the batteries, as we saw, fairly cheap. it's the boards to make it all run that might be the problem.
All of the people that are crapping on Freddie’s decision are ridiculous. Yes we all enjoy watching his videos. But him removing the hybrid system is not a reason for anyone to unsubscribe or run him down. Did any of you spend over 600k on the flooded p1? Ummm NO. So this is Freddie’s decision. Not any of yours. The fact that he is removing it will make his P1 all that more unique given that it will be the only one without it. Also I am sure he either has thought of, or is coming up with, a way to make it have more power than it did originally. Now with that rant out of the way I want to say keep up the great work Freddy. I look forward to seeing your finished product. Just ignore the haters and keep doing whatever you want to with your car. That is what makes your builds unique. Not keeping the cars stock.
It's wild to think you bought this P1 to bring back to life, but it has brought your channel the most life it's had in recent memory. Almost 10% of the channel views are of this car.
Yep this is kind of a miss. The hybrid system wasn’t put in the car for power. It was to fill in for the turbo during lag. The EV mode was a gimmick but the KERS/IPAS system is what made the car a P1 and not just a 650s
it's going to drive like a TT Huracan... McLaren engineers designed that car with the hybrid system in mind and I think it won't drive that good without it
@kzed it definitely won't. This build has pretty much died in my eyes now. I wanted to see a flood damaged P1 get restored like we've been lead on to believe.. not a flood damaged P1 get turned into a turbo'd 650s 💀
I can’t wait for episode 11 of rebuilding a 2,000,000 mclaren 675 LT
😂
He has gotten better. How many episodes did he do while fixing up his original Lambo?
I’ve been watching this series since it started handsdown I take my hat off to you the McLaren I love to death what you’re doing is amazing. Keep it up👍😉
This project is mad, and I'm so inspired by your courage and go-getter attitude Tavarish!
I'm confused about the washing part though, or rather, why you didn't disassemble the entire car before you washed the tub? Would've thought after removing the doors and the front frame, it would've been easier to maneuver the tub so that it wouldn't become a bath, but rather more easily drain out all the sand and other gunk (for example in the intakes)?
Looking forward to checking out the next part!
I love your work and this project is amazing. IMO the hybrid system in the P1 is part of its DNA. It's not a P1 without it. I'm hoping you can find a way to reimplement the battery/electric system. I know it will be hard but I'm sure you can do it! Thanks for the awesome content!
Please just do with the P1 whatever YOU want. Yes, I too would have lover to see you struggle to find out how to fix the hybrid system, but if it’s not worth the hassle, don’t do it. It’s your car, and it’s super exciting to see what you will do with it, whether it’s a hybrid or not. Loving the series!
Definitely feeling a British influence on the script and edits. ❤
Truthfully saying, I'm actually looking forward for you to rebuild the hybrid system. I'm actually waiting for a vid about it, yes I know that by doing this would save so much time and money, but without the hybrid system, a P1 would just be a 675 on steroids, but all in all, I love the series, can't wait for the final results
Oof, can't lie, I'm bummed about the hybrid drive delete, since it's a huge part of the P1 identity. How will P1EVO be different from a boosted 675?
That said, I get that you probably are facing challenges that look nearly if not completely insurmountable on multiple fronts (cost, feasibility, parts, tooling, time, yada). Still looking forward to seeing everything you do with it.
It'll be just like DDEs "720s GTR " with the custom carbon body and 1300hp. Just costs $300k more lol
Just to let you know, people joined this build to see you bring such a car back to its former glory and now you're completely changing everything about the car and making it into a Frankenstein...
I love when a Porsche ad comes up before these videos. Like yes. I can definitely afford one of those
Hey Tav,
I've got to aree with the majority here, I cant pretend ive not lost quite a bit of interest now the hybrid system is what makes the P1 the P1, its not so much about the resale value - its more about the value of the content and its interest to me, and thus its value to you.
Everytime I see rebuilding a Mclaren P1, ill be thinking "its not really a P1 anymore", but shit you achieved more than I ever have so who am I to say :)
It'll be just like DDEs "720s GTR " with the custom carbon body and 1300hp. Just costs $300k more lol
Would this even be considered a P1 without the hybrid system? Regardless I'm in for the vids
Nope it may as well be another 650s rebuild at this point
I suspect it will be to get the P1 over the line in time, My bet is Freddie is either doing something special and maybe doing the hybrid stuff later. Way over my budget, I'm sure this will be a special rocket when done.
TBF you could look at a custom hybrid system at some time in the future! I would leave the space for it to be added down the line sometime. Anyway, awesome stuff Tavarish!
Good for you making your car what you want it to be. Whether you kept the hybrid system or not I figured you’d change the car for the better and make it stand out. Right on and keep on pushing
No hybrid system, kinda new engine, new body, new computer…
What made this re-build interesting is driving away.
It is now just a build based on a P1 chassis.
And even at the end of it I would not be surprised this is changed as well.
That was really high price to pay to finally build a kinda kit car.
🎯💯
Ship of Theseus moment
This.
Honestly it'll be like DDEs "720s GTR" . custom carbon body and 1300hp
Kinda disappointed about dropping the hybrid system was the thing I was most excited to see being rebuilt
Im sure he was more disappointed than you. After all its gonna be a lot of work and effort to do that, not to mention probably 200k or more. But hey, if yall want that you can always donate on a gofund me to pay for it.
Let be real P1 is really painful cars too get service done also u need send too McLaren dealer for service take long time and price was more brutal than other McLaren
I've changed my opinion about this build after watching all the videos. It looks awesome. Thanks for sharing.
The one thing I take away from this is the amount of engineering that went into the P1 in the first place
But is it REALLY a P1 if it doesn't have hybrid assembly?!
Look Freddy, the water is spill over the dam. You took gamble and expectation came up a little short. But. I am do proud to see you pull yourself up by your bootstraps. You look much better responding and doing what you love to do best. Glad you are moving forward with your P1 rebuilding it to your expectations. Your friends, and employees are with you in support. Wishing you the very best with God's blessings. Pedro
Forget the haters. I love the idea of building it better. Fastest p1 lets go 💪
This is the most exciting project on youtube
For me the most interesting part of the build was to see how will you figure out to keep the battery alive or get another more powerful battery on a budget but this was pretty disappointing end for the hybrid system
Agreed. I fully understand that the car is going to be faster without it (Rich's new video explains it well) but it was about the technical challenge. However, still going to be awesome and I'll be watching 😊
the 10 year old hybrid system is dumb. No point in keeping it.
@@JustAvignone the hybrid system is integral to what makes the car as fast and driveable as it is. Without it, all you have is a vicious-handling, laggy hot rod kit car.
@@richardharrold9736 I most definitely wasn't a key piece to making the car fast. it was like 100+ hp boost. If he builds the engine right there will be no big lag. That's just common car sense to people who actually build them :)
@@JustAvignone it's not just the horsepower (114bhp IIRC) but also the huge torque fill it gives, particularly at lower engine RPM. Both on the road and on track, the hybrid system makes the car faster and more driveable. Without it, the car just turns laggy, spiky and vicious. Even McLaren with all their expertise in tuning and throttle mapping couldn't make the Senna (which is basically a P1 with the hybrid delete and hit with an ugly stick option boxes ticked) faster or better to drive than P1 despite being lighter.
Oh man seeing that shell taken apart like that just gives me the shivers and I don't even own the thing. You have balls of steel taking this challenge on Tavarish, massive respect.
Getting rid of the hybrid was the best idea well done buddy 😍
This car has been in the Ocean, it stop being a P1 that day. Tavarish has give this car a chance of life it wouldn’t have. With out Tavarish it would have been a parts car. Tavarish will make this the best car it can be, I sure of it. Tavarish has my support, I will watch he’s project until the end.