Elon Musk Is Right About This
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Tragic: the worst person you know makes a good point
Perhaps he shouldn't co-found Open AI
He isn't making a good point at all. Elon musk does this same shit too. He clearly isn't principally objecting to Apple AI and OpenAI and ChatGPT because he is working on AI projects of his own, from Grok onward. He is being butthurt its not HIS AI and instead its from the company that snubbed him.
Of course, these companies ARE shit, but he's not right. He would just replace their shittiness with his shittiness.
@@Feefa99it's so evidently clear how bitter he is over abandoning open ai before they made it big
It's so pathetic, it's the closest I ever been of pitting elon
Fortunately everything Elon said on Twitter was straight up wrong
Actually he doesn't. Musk is so wrong, because he either doesn't understand how it works, or because he is deliberately misunderstanding.
“Nobody asked for this”
Vaush, you are rarely wrong, but the shareholders asked for this.
shareholders aren't people
maybe the stakeholders did too, ai is kinda... huge. most people in my uni use ai daily too, kinda sad i gues
Okay, no real people asked for this, there, fixed it.
exactly. no human asked for this. shareholders aren't human.
@@user-lrg3glm6rhdyvUsing AI tools to perform a job is way different than using AI to record and store every aspect of your life for future monetization.
Edward Snowden is a complicated individual but there's a reason he would crack open every phone he had and physically cut through the microphone connection, instead using wired ear buds with a built in mic so as soon as he unplugs his ear buds there is no functional mic on the phone.
My Samsung lets me switch off my microphone in the quick settings panel, I've heard it's physically impossible to access it if it's off. Also it shows me when an app is using my mic
@@anon-fq3ud sure, why wouldn't you believe the company that has collects and sells your data when they tell you that your mic is off
So this is why most phones don't have ports for wired headsets anymore. Suddenly that adjustment makes so much more fucking sense. Holy shit.
@@subrezon I'm pretty sure people have tested it on rooted phones and it literally cuts the signal to the mic, EU law is pretty stringent on consenting to sharing data. I'd rather have a physical switch but it's the next best thing
Something something literally 1984
Every day gets me one tiny step closer to just getting a flip phone and an mp3 player
Go full Stallman
I dont remember exactly who it was but either Snowden or Assange said that they actually opened up their phone and phyically removed all the cameras and microphones and all that shit and got an external mic to plug in for phone calls and i think if i was just slightly more competent wit that stuff id do the same
Carrier pigeon and a lute.
Look up a little thingy called Graphene OS.
You can put open-source operating systems on your phone, and it's easier than you might think. But if you want your tech to work for you, instead of for them, you gotta _take_ it from them.
It won't help because everyone next to you will be having these things and also if you want to interact with society you will be coerced to use them. I don't want to have my banking data connected to my phone and I don't but I don't know how long that will even be still possible - they already have functions that are only available per app and you can access them from a desktop. Everywhere I look the non-online, non-app options are being limited and even taken away and soon you will be forced to use all of this shit unless you want to go live in a cave (and good luck finding one where you'd be allowed to crush for even a night).
Trying to pull in the annoying tech bro demographic with that title and thumbnail, converting them to vaushism
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Vaush has a fool's idea of technology, so tech bros don't really care about him. In fact, anyone with more than 80 IQ should not care about what this guy says.
The cornerstone of modern revolution is thumbnail graphic design
@@TC-jo2vj Equestrian-Vaushtianitism
It's wild to me that there are folk who don't care that massive corporations are listening in on every thing you do
I mean does it change anything? Like we use their apps and buy their products anyway so it's not absurd
i know i should be mad but i just cant give a sht. literally everyone everywhere tracks everything about you so whatever
What am I supposed to do with that care? I’m going to keep using my phone. So like, do I just care for no reason?
It's not that people don't have a problem. It's there is nothing that can be done to fix it. So might as well take the benefits.
As long as it’s not the guberment, it’s ok with most people. The second you say China is listening in, everyone will lose their minds.
Is this even going to be legal in the EU based on all the EU privacy, data and AI regulations.
I doubt they would care considering Apple’s user base is heavily concentrated stateside
@@SpiralSine6idk they’re still changing the charging port in accordance with the EU so if anything they would just not have it on EU phones
@@SpiralSine6
Not heavily enough to not use USB-C.
It's not illegal, because Apple isn't harvesting any data. None. Vaush is so wrong on this. Benjamin is the hero, here.
there is no way this is going to be legal in the eu. apple is probably going to required to implement an option to turn it off.
Honestly, this is EXACTLY why we should push for free and open source software (foss). The fact alone that the code is proprietary with no one truly able to see what's happening on your device as a result, this is what's allowing all of this to happen. Foss allows the curtain to be pulled back at any time, not to mention the other inherent pros it brings.
Honestly, I'd rather get Minions-Themed Socks for my birthday than an uncanny reminder that large parts of society want to replace the human spirit with cheap tech gibberish.
At least that cheap Minions gibberish was human-generated!
it's your birthday? happy birthday!!
6:35 Making me think of the okbv meme of Vaush looking at Benjamin, deciding between "Permaban" and "Thanks for the dono"
Too bad. Because Benjamin is correct.
Benjamin is actually right this time lol
He’s objectively incorrect tho, that Ben character.
The Ludites were right
They always were.
Welp I quit. I am switching back to Nokia
We all have to learn linux and root/jailbreak our phones now. That used to be esoteric nerd stuff, now it's starting to become a safety concern for a lot of us.
Well a jailbroken iPhone still uses Ios, but you have the freedom to remove all this nonsense.
no dont root or jailbreak, that is a terrible idea, you’re making a First Class backdoor to your device for feds/ the state
@@random_bit my dude they're already in your device rooting allows you to cast them out
@@caelan5301 that's some serious copium or you're an actual plant
This is literally the same machine from the Batman movie. The one he used to hunt down the Joker by listening to every device to echo locate and 3Dmap everything in real time with audio.
Only the machine isn't used by Batman but a profit oriented business controlled by even more profit oriented shareholders.
My dad had that product placement Nokia phone used in the movie to set up the network, and we laughed because that phone was slow as bricks, and there was no way it could compute that stuff
You best start believin' in cyberpunk dystopias, you're in one!
Why is Benjamin now like a HUGE reoccurring character in the vaush pit. Constant bad take generator, its honestly impressive.
I'm starting to think it's Ben Shapiro's burner account
Every story needs an antagonist
@@bzzzzzzzzzz2075 Benjamin gives more of shadow the hedgehog vibes than eggman vibes
@@RomWattheadcannon accepted.
He's a content machine ^^
The fact Benjamin is so mainstream-brained is really something I’ve noticed about the common denominators of the smartest people’s followings. Most people genuinely aren’t equipped to defend their brains from what they’re told to accept.
Benjamin is truly our everyman.
Actually, Benjamin is totally correct here. Apple *do not* mine your data. They *do not* have access to it. There is an exception. If you agree, you can agree to have your Siri harvested to improve Siri. But it is opt-in and you don't need to agree.
@@johnforde7735 I opted out on my current iPhone 12, and I opted out on my 8. I still occasionally get ads for things I talk about vaguely. It’s not frequent at all, but it happens. I just can’t imagine how it happens. I’m not a frequent online shopper, I don’t google things to buy. I can’t imagine how that happens without eavesdropping.
@@johnforde7735 You actually believe the Corporation with the highest evaluation of any corporation anywhere?
@@LordWaterBottle Sure. Their business model doesn't need to sell your data, but because they sell smart phones, guaranteeing your privacy is a way of distinguishing themselves from other manufacturers, who you can guarantee *are* harvesting your data.
Every user agreement ever: you have no right to a court. We own everything you do.
Elon: I can excuse racism but I draw the line at overused a.i
He doesn't oppose AI, he doesn't like that it's not his AI
I like how Vaush says "even" Elon is against it... As if Elon doesn't have a ton of different motives to be against Apple's AI...
While that's true, for the more uninformed it's a good wake up call
@@tomlxyz to something you can easily turn off in settings
nokia brick phone supremacy...
I dont think they need to listen to you, they just have their algorithms at a good enough level to predict what to show you
sure love that all of tech has become "let's put this virtual dumbass chatbot inside it"
As time goes by the more I feel like I’m the only person I know who actually likes to visit websites from page 1 of Google and not read whatever bullshit their AI plagiarized from them and made up along the way
I think a stronger case against data tracking and selling could be made without speculating that the phone's camera is always on and collecting data. It is unlikely that camera data can be used effectively without an insane amount of image analysis for each user. If this analysis were happening on device, you'd notice significant battery drain (AI is extremely computationally expensive). If it were happening off device, a video feed would be constantly being uploaded to an external server, leading to noticeable data usage that can be tracked on device or through a router or service provider. It's not impossible that camera data collection isn't happening, but it's highly unlikely.
That being said, certain invasive data is definitely being sold. Location and web history are the most obvious examples. Arguing against data tracking by citing those as examples is much more effective than speculating about camera or microphone data collection.
Final note, I am a software engineer but dislike generative AI just as much as Vaush does; I am not arguing in favor of the use of generative AI.
The camera thing is obviously bullshit and absolutely fails Occam's razor. What's more likely, the store you bought your shoes from maintains customer records which they sell to data brokers; your phone's geolocation knows you went to that store and spent time there; and thus you got served ads for products in that store's field? Or everyone's camera is secretly on all the time and running AI image analysis 24/7 and nobody's noticed?
That's assuming it's happening all at the same time. The recording could happen through the day and whenever you plug in your phone to charge that could be used to process the information. Alternatively the phone could wait for a wifi connection too upload lots of data. I doubt that it records all the time but every know and then could give them enough valuable information. Most people's life is relatively repetitive anyways
@@tomlxyz you could still detect the data being sent off at night. You’re ignoring the main point here. using your camera or microphone to record data is so much more time consuming, expensive, and produces much worse data than just using gps data, web searches, content you watch and much more. It’s so much easier and gives better results that way. Not saying this isn’t a problem. Of course it is, we need to have some real consumer data protection laws in the USA (but that will probably never happen because politicians highly benefit from this by using this data to advertise to potential voters, especially in swing states. So moral of the story every politician is corrupt and get rid of the outdated electoral college system or something like that)
I am also software engineer and I can second this. Having camera and mic on all the time is very inefficient way of collecting data, you get lots of useless data you have the filter though and waste processing power. Everyone would notice huge battery drain, phones running hot and huge data usage.
Yes, an actually intelligent take.
Is he only throwing a tantrum because he is not getting money out of this? Yes.
Are his points right? Also yes.
It's like the Mexican independence. It started because a bishop was mad for alcohol taxes, but he never intended to leave Spain. But it became that.
Absolutely based of that bishop!
There's no coming back from this. We're already on a one way train towards corporate dystopia.
What makes you think we're not already at that destination?
@@audreydoyle5268I think they’re saying there is no destination because we’re never getting off the train now that we’re on it
@@audreydoyle5268 Because it's getting worse
Started teaching my ex French, a day later they started getting ads in French. Something they've NEVER received before. It's blatant.
Lol okay and it’s 100% certain you only got that ad because one of you searched for something French, not because your phone is “listening to you” 💀
That can be your phone listening to you, but that could also just be humans being predictable. We can figure out how bigoted people are by reaction times of images. We can predict that someone is pregnant before they know themselves. Maybe you looked up something related to speaking French recently. Maybe your ex has looked up something similar and posted a picture with you in it, telling the algorithm that you're getting interested in speaking French again too. I guarentee you that somewhere in Google, they're trying to make an algorithm which predicts what you're thinking about by how you type, not just what you type.
He's not only right he's far right.
He's far right and dead wrong.
Elon is far right LOL
You are as funny as the far right.
@@gillfreddie4100 Yes they are fun to laugh at. Shame they do so much harm.
@@hizzlemobizzle And you are just as fun to laugh at. Though you do no harm at all, which makes you worse than them because you are inept.
I mean, Elon only opposes this because he isn't the first to do it and is playing catch-up with regards to AI development. He didn't suddenly develop a conscience or anything.
It's still a major security risk. Nobody's out here saying that Elons based now, only just that if an idiot like him can understand how disastrous this will be then you know it's fucked from the get go.
Stopped clocks, something something somryhing
AI discourse is what it took to get Vaush to agree with Elon
Of course, they both don't understand what is happening. No, private data is shared. Period.
@@johnforde7735 Benjamin?
@@Account81658 Benjamin 2. It is a fact that Apple Intelligence is incapable of harvesting your data. I find it astounding that people don't understand what they talking about. At least Benjamin does.
@@RiceShouldBeFluffy Sure. Apple's brand is privacy. If they were caught harvesting your data, their share price would tank. Also, I develop mobile apps and understand how things work.
@@johnforde7735I've heard of Freudian slip before, but never of a Freudian comma.
Why do people insist their phones are listening to them instead of just advanced algorithms?
I had the same thought. The data collection and privacy violations that are well attested are already egregious no need to embellish with flimsy claims that phones are always recording no matter what
We literally have proof of this, a guy left his phone on his dashboard while driving through Mexico with the radio on and for the next week all his ads were in Spanish.
@@blakemccarthy3742 That would be interesting if he was listening to spanish radio while in America. I went to spain and all my ads were spanish. That's not weird. That's normal.
@hooliganbubsy7298 perhaps you misunderstood, his phone ads were in Spanish while he was back in the US.
@@blakemccarthy3742 Well then the conspiracy disproves itself. He was in America, surrounded by English, and it kept feeding him spanish ads for a while.
Dude, the dude being recommended shoes they never even talked about is pure confirmation bias.
They're not taking pictures and analysing the shoes you're wearing, they just have disgusting amounts of data on your tastes and habits and you're just that predictable.
Microphone thing is different, but they're not taking and sending pictures randomly without any researcher finding actual evidence of it.
Anyone got some tips on how to navigate this AI world were all forced to take part in?
One piece of internet-connected technology per house, and keep a gun next to it if it starts acting suspiciously. I am never getting an Alexa/Siri thing, and seriously reconsidering if I could navigate my life without an internet-connected phone.
Screech a lot about AI and carry on as before, like people whose sentiment you're repeating. "Noooo the print/TV/internet/AI is ruining the world.". History keeps rhyming.
Um I’ve got nothing. The world is actually terrible and only getting worse :3
@@vidyagaems4063The difference here is that the AI is not actually intelligent, doesn't have human modivations, and is not screened by another human before it is published.
The problem with AI is that there is not even a man behind the curtain.
@@LordWaterBottle Except there is always a human somewhere doing all the important decisions and pretending otherwise is always either panic alarmism or grifting.
Your phone is not listening to you to show you ads. It's worse.
Algotithms for recommendations are so good so based on your history + season can predict what are you going to think about. And it already knows what you like. Yeah.
Also speech recognition is still not perfect, so they don't listen to your thoughts, they just predict and shape them.
There needs to be lawsuits.
There needs to be some rich-eating revolt.
Vaush linux arc when?
only once he transitions, wears thigh highs and learns programming
Okay, Vaush is correct here, but he is wrong about the methodology. And that's important.
Apple isn't secretly recording you, or taking photos throughout your day and harvesting data that way. That's too MUCH data and the sheer file sizes it would have to hold would be absurd. "But wouldn't it just upload it?" NO! Think about much bandwidth and power that would consume! People would notice, and it would NOTICABLY slow your phone down.
So how does the women find her red shoes being advertised to her? Easy. They use ALL THE OTHER DATA THEY CAN LEGALLY HARVEST. (They also share this data via data sharing deals, and selling said data as well.)
When you meet up with friends, your location data and their location data matches up. You arrive roughly the same time, you leave roughly the same time, and you meet frequently. Now it knows your friends. Your friend noticed your red shoes and started searching for it on the bus ride home. This shoppers data is stored. And it's assumed you might have been recently talking about said red shoes.
Now, you go searching later that week for clothing items. It knows from your shopping data that you are looking for an outfit. And it notices that said outfit would go with red shoes (and let's be honest, if you are fashionable, you might be looking to pair it with red shoes) so it recommends ones that either your friends looked up (which would be the ones you own) or it best guesses based of the TONS of shopping data it previously had.
No need to spy on you when it has THOUSANDS of data points to pull from to best guess what you'd like from personalized trends.
me going to my friends phone and daying microwave over and over so he gets microwave advertisments
It isn’t always listening, and most of this is running on device. It isn’t saved to the cloud. The predictive ad tech is definitely creepy, but the “always listening” stuff could be easily proven by observing web traffic. A constant audio stream would destroy battery.
Honestly i thought "low battery life" was a meme for apple users. And why would they save it to cloud?
this^
@@echiko4932 basically every other “AI” company/service is processing user data stored in their servers/cloud. Apple is using on-device processing instead (mostly, I was going to get into that but it was feeling too ranty haha), so the “when is my mom’s flight arriving” question is the phone itself reading emails/texts, and searching for flight info. So Apple doesn’t need to keep a record of who the mom is, or their flights. The context is already on the phone, so they can process it on the phone. They’re kinda going out of their way to not be creepy, limiting it to iPhone 15 Pro or newer so the feature is only available if on device processing is possible
Thank you. So many leftists have a SUPER unnuanced view of new tech like AI. You can critique it’s uses, but yeah, let’s not pretend like it’s gonna end the world.
Exactly. The well attested data collection and privacy violations are already egregious we don't need to pile on flimsy claims that undermine the cause
Having this video in the background while playing Cyberpunk 2077 was a really immersive experience, 10/10 would reccomend! :D
Microsoft Copilot and Recall and now we've got Apple Ai! Us Linux degens will be getting everybody to eat good at this rate even with it all broken and fractured 😂
This is on the device - not on server
His fear mongering won’t let him hear that tho.
The „hike there“ Bit is out of context. Siri now can use your past request about searching for a hike Location as a clue. So that you can say „there“ and it knows „oh he probably means the item of the last conversation. Apple is not suggesting that siri listens to you all the time with that feature.
Here's a T Rex on a surfboard, don't worry about the collapse of civilization.
Tin foil hats anyone? 😂
well i mean, youre usually right but i guess in contrast to "a broken clock is right twice a day" "sometimes you forget to charge your smartwatch and it starts defending elon musk"
So, I'll have to look into the new thing, but it's my understanding that data like faceID and siri logs are all stored exclusively on your device.
I know for a *fact* that this is the case with faceID.
To put it another way, your iphone has a 3D scan of your face, but Apple doesn't.
If this is the case with the always-on listening thing, exclusively local storage, I wouldn't have as much an issue with it. And if you can also turn it off, I have no issue at all.
The way I'm guessing it would work, due to the "attention span" of these programs and the amount of data that would build up, is that it would keep a small snippet recording of, idk, a minute or two? And be constantly deleting the tail. Then, when you say the right keywords, it checks back on those two minutes for other relevent keywords, does the thing, and continues to delete the tail at whatever the cutoff point is.
Once it's scheduled the event, it's in your calendar, and it has no reason to hold on to the recorded data any longer.
That's the way I would do it, at least. I really don't think that's objectionable at all. Maybe it works differently though.
Again, idk if they've changed their policy, or how this particular technology works, but generally speaking unless it's shared with icloud, is your user ID, or is on an app that tracks your data (like facebook) Apple's policy is that the data on your iphone stays on your iphone.
My understanding is that due to previous "always on microphone data collection" problems with companies, there has been legislation put in place banning the practice. Have I been deceived? Has the law changed? Does this in some way circumvent it? I can't say. If none of those are the case I'm not too worried.
However, if this stuff is streaming the data, if it is indeed being collected and stored non-locally?
Then yeah, dystopia. Horrible horrible horrible. Let it be cast into the fires of Mount Doom.
I'll have to do some more research.
I thought that Siri temporarily stores a transcript of a request but not recording of it.
"I want AI to do my laundry and dishes so that I can do art and writing, not for AI to do my art and writing so that I can do my laundry and dishes."
Edit: for people who said "it's only 1KB". One 1KB is 1000 characters and that's before compression which can increase that by a factor of 3-5. That's a lot of text for a mere "advertisement"
To be fair, musk only complains about AI because he failed and stumbled in the AI race
His attempt to catch up by saying all AI companies need to pause for 6 months for ethical reasons was pathetic
Why does Vaush speak like he knows the facts?
They definitely sell recorded info from a lot of sources. I do think some speculation about this sometimes veers into hasty conclusions though, as people don't think about the many ways this data can be collected. With the shoe example, I'm not really convinced that it must be AI in the phone's camera literally looking at your shoes. If you or a friend or family member have some shoes, data collectors have information about you having purchased them at some point, and possibly or likely even searched for where to get them beforehand. Maybe even a friend or family member looked at them.
Yeah, there's so many ways this could have happened. Their friend bought these specific shoes within the last few months. The two of them meet and because the system knows they are friends on social media they probably like the same thing and you were physically close to each other then the system recommends the same thing. Way easier to do.
Funny Vaush mentions 50 year old blenders that still work. I have a 1972 Oster Regency I bought at a yard sale for a dollar that I use almost daily. I’ve had a few friends ask me why I don’t get a new blender and it really bothers me.
Future wars will be fought with your browser history 😂
Ok as someone who’s understands this tech stuff pretty well I’m going to correct the issues I see with this video.
1:46 if you are genuinely worried about all this ai stuff it’s only coming to the iPhone 15 pro and pro max which is the most recent (and most expensive versions) of iPhones. This plays into the main point of Apple not selling user data or selling ads on there products because they already make so much off of phones and other devices. Being known as the privacy tech company is better for there business than selling data. If you still don’t believe me and believe they are still selling data then why wouldn’t they give ai features to as many iPhone models as possible to collect as much data as possible?
3:09 your phone isn’t always listening now. It just means that Siri remembers the previous question you just asked her. so if you ask her where a state park is and then ask her to book a trip there she will understand you’re referring to the state park you just mentioned in the last question you gave her. it’s like how you wouldn’t mention going to a place by name multiple times in a conversation with someone. You would say it once and then just say there whenever you’re referring to the place for the rest of the conversation.
4:30 most of these new features are done on device meaning that Apple can’t recorded that data. The stuff that can’t be done on device will be done on a private cloud sever and data will only be used for the task you ask it to do. They are also allowing independent research organizations to check this.
6:42 you seem to fundamentally miss understand the point of encryption. And completely ignore the point about 2 party consent recording. It’s hard to even debunk your points here because you are basically just saying nu-uh to everything. And Apple makes a vast majority of there profits from hardware sales because they have a massive markup on products (200-250% and that’s on the low end. Because they buy most of their parts in massive bulk) at this point Apple has decided having very good privacy features is better for their brand power than selling user data.
9:00 as a general rule if you’re agreeing with Elon musk you’re in the wrong. Do I even have to say anything else? Yes? Fine. Open ai is not being integrated into the software at an OS level. (For one Elon is just saying random buzzwords he probably doesn’t even understand here) if you ask Siri a question and Siri determines it is a specially of chat GPT Siri will ask you if you want to ask chat GPT. If you don’t want Siri to, you can just say no. If you do Apple has multiple privacy features to insure that open ai can’t use your data. Too many for me to list. If you want any more in depth explanation on that watch MQBHD’s recent video on WWDC (WWDC is the event where this was announced)
Edit: I found this Reddit post that does a pretty good job at debunking the always recording mic thing. Phones still do record data in other ways but as the post shows it’s the apps not the actual OS (I will say that home assistants like Alexa do recorded 100% that is literally there whole purpose unlike phones. The hardware there is sold at a loss, it’s only data collection method is its mic, it’s not being moved around and taken to loud crowded areas. and it’s Amazon. The CEO is literally Lex Luther what did you expect.
“I work in SEO and digital advertising.
No, your phone's microphones aren't listening to you all the time. It would be a massive technical undertaking to process and store all of this, it would violate consent/recording laws across the world, etc. - but most of all they don't really need to. Our phones gather even trivial data that with a decent assumption can make seemingly very personal ad delivery.
I've posted about this before. Imagine today you go to an Animal Shelter, Pet Mart, and your sister's house. Whether it's Location History for your Google Account, or even your device scanning for wifi networks and finding PetMart-2.4Ghz; your device has a "profile" for your little anonymous data point in the knowledge graph:
Went to Animal Shelter
Your data point is now noted at "Interested in getting a pet" and you'll get ads for local animal shelters.
You were there for an hour? According to the Knowledge Graph, 85% of people who spend more than 35 minutes here are pet owners. (Others later bought a dog toy using Google Pay, posted a video with their pet with a tag or in a certain category online, etc). You're data point is now noted as "Probably has a pet" and you'll get ads for pet owner products and services.
Went to Pet Mart
You searched for pet product on Google and went to purchase it? You're probably a pet owner, and are no longer elligible for "Interested in getting a pet" ads.
If it was a cat product, your data point is now more specifically "probably a Cat owner". You're no longer elligible for dog ads.
Went to Sister's House
Everything about your data point is being cross referenced with your sister.
Because your day consisted of the Animal Shelter and Pet Mart, your sister will temporarily receive ads for the Animal Shelter because y'all probably talked about them.
Oh crap baskets, it's your sister's birthday according to your Google Calendar She may now be a cat owner, and she'll be elligible for Pet Mart ads.
You may not have bought this cat for yourself, you are again elligible for "Interested in a pet" ads again.
(assumptions bolded)
And this is only in regards to that one approach! Ad networks are cross referencing thousands of these data points on a device with the thousands of other data points in every interaction you have with another individual. Even ignoring the default-on-tracking privacy settings - Our devices gather a bunch of whatever data. People aren't really that interesting, so with a decent assumption ad networks can deliver ads so accurately that the conspiracy that our phone listens to every word still lives on.
My advice? Disable ad tracking, personalized ads, set your various google privcay settings to Off, and set your Google Account History to auto-delete after 3 months. The first 2 cut you off from programmatic advertising networks, and the second 2 reduce Google's ad network and general insight into your privacy. Of course more steps can be taken, but these at least we all can take with minimal inconvenience.”
Thank you for this comment. I wanted to go on an extended rant myself, but now I can make it slightly shorter. No, Apple is not listening to your conversations, geeez. Most of this AI processing happens on your device on a specific part of the chip that's separate from the processor so even if your device get's compromised it's still secure. Not even Apple has access to that data, and a bad actor would literally need to get physical access to your device and use special equipment to hack it, but so far even that hasn't been done on Apple's hardware, at least not to my knowledge. In cases where the request can't be processed on device due to it's complexity and a need for more computing power it'll be sent (all encrypted) to dedicated Apple servers that run the same hardware and have the same security benefits as mentioned above. And in case where Apple's AI thinks that your request would better be suited for Open AI (the generative stuff) it'll specifically ask you if you want to forward that request to Open AI. And not just once like a setting that you toggle but every god damn single time, meaning you pretty much have full control over your data. I get that we hate big tech over here and I'm right up there with you, and yes Apple is still your traditional, greedy, big corpo, capitalistic structure, but Apple's dedication to privacy really is miles better than that of Google, Microsoft, Samsung, etc. or even worse, some Chinese companies. If you can't live without your phone, computer, tablet etc. and you care about privacy, Apple is your best bet.
Elon just pissed that he didn’t put this in Tesla first 😂😂😂😂
Disabling APIs and disabling hardware are two totally different things.
Is there a phone that has RUclips on it that isn't slow as molasses that won't steal my info constantly?
You can stop using regular apps and get open source frontends like LibreTube.
Being able to turn off all Google services via alternatives apps cuts half of the stolen data
Watch actual security experts cover this stuff and not Vaush if you want a real answer. He has a lot of great political takes but his tech ones are almost always uninformed and reactionary
This stuff is only coming to the latest and greatest iPhone anyways, so there’s a big chance you won’t even see it at all.
I know it feels like someone is listening to your microphone when something is said in conversation then you see an ad for it, but I think it’s much more complicated than that. Companies like Google and Facebook have thousands of data points on you (even if you don’t use their platforms), the people you communicate with, and even people who might be in a similar position. All of those little data points are put into a “black box” ML algorithm that determines what is the next ad to feed to you. So assuming no actual audio is recorded from your smart phone, they have enough data to make an educated guess on what your next step in life is. A great example of this is how Target can predict when someone is pregnant.
So when you see an ad about EVs after a conversation with your friend group about EVs, one friend might have been heavily research EVs, which triggered 2 other in the group to watch some EV reviews, a couple of weeks before the conversation you posted on instagram your sick of gas prices, and finally you just purchased a house a year ago and have been looking up ways to upgrade your garage. Algorithm takes all these data points and more and spits out an ad that comes closest to your data points.
This is why people should be mindful about the data they share on a daily basis. It can be used against you.
Nah, try it: Pick a random but specific kind of item that you have no interest in buying and haven’t searched for; open a few random webpages that have ads and note what they are, then loudly and clearly talk about how much you really want to buy x product for a few minutes; when you are done check the ads on the same webpages as before and notice that they are now all related to x product.
Been boycotting Apple for 10 years already !!
Can Siri testify against me in court?
2 party consent can be bypassed by recording WHAT you said, without actually recording the AUDIO
Naturally. Transcripts are demonstrated on the front end with speech to text, why would they not have that on the back end?
i asked my mom to pick me up some core power chocolate 42 gram protein shakes and started getting ads for them, the exact flavor, brand, and protein amount (they come in other protein amounts)
Why does it always sound like a parody of a cyber-punk ad??? Like "It's super easy to use and gives you peace of mind knowing it's designed with privacy from the ground up, " it sounds like they're doing the bit of "this product is definitely not evil and doesn't shrink your balls with the ball miniaturizer 3000. So you can have peace of mind that it is perfectly ball-friendly."
Back in 2016 my Sony Xperia phone placed Buffalo Wild Wings advertisements on my Facebook page, right after I just had a conversation about Buffalo Wild Wings with my coworker. How is this still shocking to folks? They're always listening.
Dont tell Vaush about Microsoft Recall. Actually do, he may join the Linux gang.
He'll eat Microsoft slop forever, he's good at inventing copes.
Have people forgotten that Apple has worked with the NSA in their data collection programs?
The custom emojis seem like a fluffy distraction to get uninformed normies to unquestionably accept this change
Putting tape over the microphone and webcam is the usual thing to do.
I have an oldish android phone, it'll eventually be pretty useless, then I'll just stop having a phone, not worth doing anymore.
There's a reasons most phones can't be opened without specialized equipment any more.
APPLE: WE CARE ABOUT YOUR PRIVACY!
APPLE AI OS: funny.
I watched this video from a few years ago where this guy got a fresh iphone and he started talked talking out loud about something complexly out there. While also never searching for anything remotely like it online. Something like gray dog toys. Within minutes he was receiving nothing but gray dog toys while he was searching for completely different products.
Not only will AI rob us of the possibility for just beginning for scraps, but it will also make life incredibly boring. So now we won’t even be able to beg for scraps. We’ll just starve and be bored the whole time.
Remember how people were saying that their smartphones were listening to them and the corpos were like "Absolutely not!" And now there just..... Literally advertising it...
my parents have been talking about buying a used car and now my phone gives me used car ads on my mobile games >:(
I read about this in the news, and the first thing I thought was, "My God...Vaush is going to agree with Musk on something."
It’s already always listening to you. Search results and ads are influenced by recent conversations that Siri/Alexa pick up
Vaush I literally work in advertising as an executive. 80% of the stuff you cited is 🧢
They don’t access your audio. Nobody is doing that, we know this. They mine your data but they don’t record you.
3:08 Long time sub but it’s like not watching a whole video can cause you to miss important context. Siri is not recording everything you say. It has conversational awareness. Before the prompt including the word there, the person asked what the weather was going to be like at a certain location (displayed on screen). Then, they said “set a hike for there”. A feature that ai assistants and chatbots have had for a while now.
You're not really making a point. "Conversational awareness" isn't magic, that's called recording for purposes of speech-to-text. It has to always be running in order for it to hear the wake phrase "Hey Siri", that's how the tech necessarily works. That tells you nothing about what happens to that transcribed data, which you can always guarantee is harvested to either improve the tech or sold for advertisement.
@@MindForgedManacle Nope. Absolutely no data is harvested, and if you actually watched the keynote, you would understand that.
@@MindForgedManacleThe mic is always on but that doesn’t mean it’s always recording. Essentially it’s listening and if it doesn’t hear the phrase to have it start recording, it’s kinda like “in one ear out the other” to put it simply. My point was Vaush is incorrect on the point he made where I time stamped. He missed a crucial context point and therefore made a false statement on what he was talking about.
@@johnforde7735 "They claimed they don't harvest the data, therefore they don't."
Flawless logic.
@@jeremiahlewis8086 I know how the tech works, I have a local-only version I play with for some goofy smart home things. It absolutely listens at all times. You have no idea if it's recording because you didn't make the software.
In this case, all "records" means is "transcribes the audio to text format". Which is very easy now and isn't resource intensive. He didn't miss a point. The whole way the wake word system works is this:
-Always listen and transcribe audio to text (this is how it can detect the wake word)
-If the wake word is heard, enter a state in which multiple kinds of actions are possible based on the systems ability to match words with likely actions.
You're pretending step 1 means text-based data (extremely small) is impossible to save and send later. Here's a test: Go save a few sentences on notepad on your PC, and let me know what the file size is. A text file with the phrase "I like those Nikes" is 17 bytes dude. Even 10,000 such files is a pittance for modern storage.
Siri is getting your life in sync with the algorithm 😵
Next week: Vaush with tinfoil hat 😢
You joke, but some day they'll have technology to read our brain waves and we'll need a reflective surface to keep them out.
I suggest wallpapering your house in tinfoil.
(I am joking. Don't worry. XD)
Does anybody actually have any proof of advertising based on secretly recorded audio? I've never found a study or anything that actually confirmed. The resources that would have to be used to scrape each recording and analyze the audio of them would be immense.
You can literally type words with your voice. They would have transcripts to search for keywords.
@@echiko4932 If it was constantly recording and transcribing you would drain battery life. Even if the transcription happened on apple's server they would need the space to store the recordings of 150million devices, and since the recording is meant to be constant that would be 24hours of footage each day. You could see the packets being sent to apple using wireshark nonetheless.
@@echiko4932 What seems to be true is that they are not recording. That should scare you even more. They can pin point exactly what you like through hundredths of data points and algorithms designed to know everything to sell about you.
Literal cyberpunk dystopian nightmare
uhhhH...haven't watched yet, but I'm guessing this has to do with broken clocks being right every so and so voosh?
For a hot second, I thought the narrator was The Sphere Hunter.
I remember when I was watching death note with some friends I started getting tiktoks about it without ever looking it up or anything. Hundred percent just phones listening to everything in your environment.
Was your account linked to the streaming service?
I’ve had phone conversations with my friends about products I’m excited for then get ads for them IMMEDIATELY, despite never getting them before. It’s not fun, it’s creepy.
Conspi Vaush! Conspi Vaush!
Literally 1984. But actually though.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
The only thing a broken clock can tell you is time of death
I frequently find that Google brings up ads about things I've never searched for online but have been talking about with my wife. I'm not sure about the camera part but I would not be surprised if they turn it on and record when you're not aware of it. We definitely live in a surveillance state but it's not the government that's doing it, it's companies but then companies own the government so it's always the companies in the end.
And they can do it because it’s a private company, who just so happens to run all of American phone infrastructure. Love that
6:12 I think what the chatter means is that if Apple is recording your personal info as described here, you would literally be able to see the data packets being sent out of your home network via packet capturing applications like Wireshark. There is not a way to send that information across the Internet in a silent, untraceable manner as far as I know. Though maybe capturing cellular data is not as simple, I know nothing about that
The only reasons Musky is "correct:" a bout this is because he didn't come up with a way to do this first. Amazing stance from someone that believes in freedom so hard, too.
I use my pc most of the time, barely show an interest while on my pc, as soon as i go otuside with my phone speaking about a certain object i get ads to my pc when i return. i could open an app on windows and get ads later by google from launching that app depending on what the app is, usually from properietary software.
This is also bad for battery life of the device on top of being peak fucking creepy.
I believe the only reason a random vid I saw months or years ago popped out of nowhere unrelated to anything I had in my regular YT algorithm to my feed was because I talked about it earlier that day within hearing range of my phone
Didn't know there was a blue moon tonight
Friend of mine had a conversation mentioning caligraphy, with switched off iPhones on the table.
Next time opening google they get swamped with ads for caligraphy pens.
That was min 5 years ago.
They sure as hell harvest anything they can get their grubby digital appendices on