AI HYPE - Explained by Computer Scientist || El Podcast EP48

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  • Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
  • Join El Podcast Host, Jesse Wright, in a thought-provoking conversation with special guest Dr. Emmanuel Maggiori (computer scientist) as they dissect the reality of AI applications amidst the prevailing hype. Drawing from his extensive experience in the tech industry, Emmanuel sheds light on the nuanced challenges and ethical considerations surrounding AI implementation. The discussion navigates through real-world examples, illustrating the importance of practical, problem-solving approaches over exaggerated claims. Listeners are encouraged to reevaluate their understanding of AI's capabilities and explore ventures that offer tangible value. Tune in for a candid exploration of the intersection between AI, business, and genuine human needs.
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    00:00 Intro/Start
    01:01 Tech Jobs are Overstaffed
    10:02 The Boundaries of AI, Machine Learning and Self-Driving Cars
    19:22 Bill Gates, Elon Musk & Decoding the Motives of Tech Giants
    23:57 From Chat GPT to Skynet
    30:01 Career Paths in the Age of AI
    40:26 Unpacking AI Research Biases
    43:36 AI Girlfriends
    48:34 Good Enough vs. Excellent Work: Thriving Amidst AI Transitions
    58:44 AI Fears: Surveillance & Censorship
    01:05:30 Amazon Fresh and AI Deception
    01:12:13 AI…More Fantasy than Fact
    01:19:48 Investing in Real Solutions
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  • @normbograham
    @normbograham 16 дней назад +34

    I work as a contractor. At one gig, they tried to upgrade ssh, and their system failed. So, they were told by the vendor it would be a year long, offshore project to upgrade. But, the client thought they were losing technical people, and they decided to take this project on themselves, and not "offshore". So, they spent a month hiring contractors, etc. 3 hours into the first day, we found the bug. After that their system worked. It was painful. I got paid for 11 days. As a sorta weird reality, management was embarrassed, and was angry at the ones whom pointed out the year old project they authorized, was a one week project. Everyone was actually angry.

    • @GarryGri
      @GarryGri 5 дней назад +4

      Happens all the time I worked at one place where someone had been working for around a year into rewriting a COBOL system to deliver new web functionality. I was asked to look at the problem without knowing it's history. I used new (at the time) web technologies and in a couple of days had it done. He got hauled in for it, but it possibly would have taken that time to redo the ancient COBOL system.
      I've also had some experiance with COBOL and wouldn't necessarily recommend it.

  • @mr.fetching2267
    @mr.fetching2267 5 месяцев назад +308

    I have worked in Tech all my life and I have never seen someone be so honest about what the industry is actually like as an engineer or developer good work

    • @TheManinBlack9054
      @TheManinBlack9054 3 месяца назад +20

      But this guy knows nothing about AI. With all due respect, he sounds like a fool. He does NOT understand how LLMs work. they are not coded liek expert systems, they are grown from data, we have no idea how they actually operate and hence why they make certain decisions

    • @kozmaz87
      @kozmaz87 3 месяца назад +17

      @@TheManinBlack9054and your reasoning is why we can't ultimately trust their output beyond providing entertainment value. If it has any level of importance you have to double check anyways.

    • @BillClinton228
      @BillClinton228 3 месяца назад +22

      Why is everyone complaining about the "shortage of good developers" if the job is so easy? Why are companies putting candidates through 3 or 4 rounds of technical interviews if you only need to work 6 hours every month? If this job was so easy they could save everyone a lot of time by simply hiring anyone on the spot to work 6 hours in 5 months.
      Also, it takes years to hone your skill at almost anything, whether you're a mechanic, plumber or architect but the tech industry is the only one where people with tons of experience and knowledge are considered "overpaid". You can't be serious?

    • @TheReferrer72
      @TheReferrer72 2 месяца назад +8

      You know he does not understand software development if he thinks you can change two paragraphs of code? in ten minutes. Did he run any tests, does he understand the system? probably used to altering code on Jupyter Notebooks.

    • @alex_lll
      @alex_lll 2 месяца назад +14

      Nah, he took one (let's assume not made up) example of him in investment bank and extrapolated it to entire tech industry.
      3 hours of work in 5 months - oh please tell me the name of that investment bank, I'd love to work there because over the last decade all places I worked in (all of them big and well known companies) I and folks around me were constantly overworked and on the edge of burnout.

  • @crybabychrononaut
    @crybabychrononaut 8 дней назад +13

    I'm a writer, musician, artist type. My ex was/is a software engineer. I helped her along the way up in her career. She dumped me when she disovered "we had different goals."
    This was because she and her crew were making big bucks and i was doing physical labor & working on my art.
    I at least said this to her, while signing divorce papers. "You care about money & status. You'll spend your life working on pointless tech projects. I'll be working on real things; things that matter."
    It hurt though, realizing how vain people can be. Especially someone you love/ed.

    • @manasuniyal2897
      @manasuniyal2897 3 дня назад +1

      Sad but true , they will leave when they find some one better than you .

    • @quantumpotential7639
      @quantumpotential7639 День назад +1

      Awwwwwe, this is just terrible. I feel your pain. Do NOT despair. Sometimes God allows people to come into and then out of our lives for just a season, but like the strong oak you will endure the winds of change and continue to grow and strive towards the light above. When he allows one door to slam (OUCH!!) He is faithful in opening up another, which takes you into your annointed time. We just have to be willing to go through it, and leave the old door behind. The more receptive and open you are to allowing that new door to accept you, the sooner your journey will resume.
      May God continue to bless you and lay a lantern before your feet.
      Peace and Love from NC, 🇺🇸 🌎

    • @markbills4122
      @markbills4122 День назад

      ​@@manasuniyal2897define "better" ....

    • @SauliusKAY
      @SauliusKAY 14 часов назад

      Woman do not love. It is not in her nature if being honest

    • @johnkowalski5756
      @johnkowalski5756 14 часов назад

      Your first mistake was getting into the one way contract called marraige.

  • @TuMadre8000
    @TuMadre8000 22 дня назад +8

    we absolutely need more engineers and scientists that are willing to be this open and brutally honest

  • @gmdtvh
    @gmdtvh Месяц назад +70

    I worked very hard and intensly in all my tech jobs. Often in Saturdays and Sundays. I'm software engineer. I'm exhausted.

    • @sp123
      @sp123 Месяц назад +10

      the only way to make real money is investing savings overtime or having a successful business. Labor helps for survival, but thats it.

    • @piotrd.4850
      @piotrd.4850 Месяц назад +3

      That's other facet of same problem - faqed up organisation and non-existant project and resource management.

    • @bbishopski
      @bbishopski 15 дней назад +4

      Same here, decades of brutally hard work

    • @jfv65
      @jfv65 8 дней назад

      ​​@@sp123so why don't you use AI and program an application to do your personal investing? It's governed by specific buy/hold/sell-rules that you could enter in your AI model. Then hook it up to a trading platform using a fast fiberoptic cable that is connected to a stock exchance and let the AI model run 24/7. And watch your bank account grow!
      If i can imagine this it probably already exists.

    • @gmdtvh
      @gmdtvh 4 дня назад

      @@sp123 you are absolutely right

  • @Hoser584
    @Hoser584 6 дней назад +5

    Has no one ever watched Space Oddity 2000? And to see Stanley Kubrick's vision in 1968: he had an AI computer run a space station, which lost its mind and killed all the astronauts on board. Its name was Hal, and seeing this film and finding out when it was made is mind-blowing.

  • @tincanp38f
    @tincanp38f 4 месяца назад +36

    we have a self driving floor cleaner at work. we have QR codes posted all over where we can drive up to the QR code and scan it in training mode and manually drive the scrubber as it cleans to learn the rout for the next time it scrubs. The downside of driving on it's own is it does not know the difference between a more saturated dirty spot on the floor or a mild spot on the floor. Or the difference between dirt or a rug and can run over the rug and get it caught in the drivers that scrub the floor. I link my phone to the machine so when I run it on auto it gives me a play by play. To put it simply... A machine I have to chase around multiple times to hit the reset button because it went off track or it thought something was in its way and does not know what to do.

    • @selocan469
      @selocan469 3 месяца назад

      You will be charged and found guilty of not utilizing AI probably, since now every idiot out there believes it (whatever AI it is they speak of I do not know) scores so called Einstein level of IQ. But, people who are trying to utilize AI to do something meaningful already experienced AI, already sees AI is no magic wand at all.

    • @DrinkyMcBeer
      @DrinkyMcBeer 3 месяца назад +7

      We had a similar thing at a warehouse I had worked at. We supplied parts to a single customer that was attached to our warehouse, and management decided to get these automated robots to drive orders back and forth. They ended up having to keep all the people the hots were meant to replace just to cover the robots when they inevitably messed up, and hire extra people to take care of the robots. Their great automation initiative cost them about a million dollars upfront and only managed to increase their overhead. It really is just a bunch of hype so useless middle management types can make themselves seem useful, since without them the workers would just continue to come in and get the job done, and no useless middle manager wants to accept that reality.

    • @randymulder9105
      @randymulder9105 2 месяца назад +3

      Everyone I know that owned one of those put it in the closet and used a broom.
      Imagine, a human and broom is cheaper, faster and more accurate. AI..robot expensive garbage.
      Give it 10 years. Even then. Why spend 30,000 dollars to sweep?

    • @KleptomaniacJames
      @KleptomaniacJames 2 месяца назад +5

      @@randymulder9105 why spend $30,000 recurringly? If the floor cleaner is good enough, and mark my words they will get good enough, you will save a lot of money paying 30,000 for a floor cleaner with the right application of course

    • @andybaldman
      @andybaldman 2 месяца назад +1

      Yet it’s still going to replace some of the jobs at your company.

  • @ohsweetmystery
    @ohsweetmystery 7 дней назад +4

    I knew a woman who worked at Xerox for many years. She was assigned to 'monitor' a few lines of code (and adapt them if necessary) for a single line of copiers. She only had to do something when any new bugs were found and it was rare. She ran her own business from her office there.

  • @josiah5776
    @josiah5776 6 месяцев назад +182

    Man, what universe are these guys living in? I had 20 years of hard death marches and 60-hour weeks. Nothing but working my butt off.

    • @josiah5776
      @josiah5776 5 месяцев назад +8

      @@relly793 Mostly e-commerce, but thankfully retired now.

    • @sillysad3198
      @sillysad3198 5 месяцев назад +55

      i am working in software since 1993, the jobs that require actual work are those they pay the least, but the upper stages of the food pyramid do fit his description. the entire industry is mostly useless and where it is not useless it is harmful

    • @williamwillaims
      @williamwillaims 4 месяца назад

      ​@@sillysad3198I'm sorry....you just described every industry... software, ai etc are only different in the fast hiring/lay-off cycle. Every industry the people at the top work less. Even middle management with endless meetings with no seemingly productive outcomes (I've wasted so much time in those meetings).
      Ai agents don't sleep, or.need coffee breaks.

    • @sausage4mash
      @sausage4mash 4 месяца назад

      that seems a familiar pattern in a lot of professions @@sillysad3198

    • @2LegHumanist
      @2LegHumanist 2 месяца назад +20

      @@sillysad3198
      I've been in the industry since 92 and I've only heard this narrative recently. The narrative used to be that we all have to leave the field in our 30s due to burnout.

  • @brdp2010
    @brdp2010 24 дня назад +6

    I am a software engineer and I agree with the idea that 'agile' does not always ensure efficient software development. At my job we have daily standup meetings where we just give a quick status of what we did the prior day and plan to do today. We also have weekly 'sizing' meetings where the team estimates time for all 'stories'. A simple 1 line code change is usually estimated to take 24 hours or more. Stories that require weeks or months many times are estimated to take 2 or 3 days. I enjoyed the 'waterfall' methodology much better than 'agile'.

    • @rahulsampat8698
      @rahulsampat8698 11 дней назад

      The waterfall model is essentially broken into 2 week sprints... so we have design sprints in the beginning, followed by the development, testing and deployment sprints.

  • @newhampshirelifestyle4233
    @newhampshirelifestyle4233 17 дней назад +2

    I have been a Software Engineer since 1991 when I graduated college. I have spent the last 20+ years in the defense industry. I can tell you, developing real-time, mission-critical, safety-critical Software and Systems is much more rewarding than the commercial space. Most projects I have worked on have well written requirements, good software process, tools, testing and validation. I have develops many really good projects, and real technology and worked HARD most of the time. Not all projects are successful, but I found DOD work to be much more rewarding, challenging and pushes the limits of technology much more than commercial development.

  • @rogerbruce2896
    @rogerbruce2896 6 месяцев назад +85

    WOW, I have been working for the wrong companies. I have been in IT for 30 years and a developer for 20 plus. At all the companies I worked for I put in at least 50 plus avg of hard code developing a week. Many times over 60 hours and many many all nighters on tight deadlines. I guess those companies need a 'real' tech manager or director. I do agree about scrum, it can easily slow the process down unless you have a strong scrum master. I am currently an IT director and ensure my team stays busy in 'meaningful' work. Help get me work at one of these companies and I will set things straight lol.

    • @bloopbleepnothinghere
      @bloopbleepnothinghere 2 месяца назад +7

      How can you possibly sling code for even 8 hrs straight a day, let alone 10 hrs and output quality code? In my 25yr career I've never met anyone who is capable of this. None of my reports can come close to that sort of marathon approach without burning out.

    • @rogerbruce2896
      @rogerbruce2896 2 месяца назад +3

      @@bloopbleepnothinghere well I did but never stayed at those companies long.

    • @BorikGor
      @BorikGor 2 месяца назад

      ​@@bloopbleepnothinghere Come over to Mainframe HLASM, mate, you'll see how it's done..

    • @jichaelmorgan3796
      @jichaelmorgan3796 2 месяца назад

      ​@bloopbleepnothinghere how many hours a day or per week is average or ideal? And for someone more exceptional? Thanks!

    • @timothyblazer1749
      @timothyblazer1749 2 месяца назад +2

      Yeah... I certainly did many 60 hour+ weeks from 1993 to 2018ish, but SINCE then I've seen a massive drop-off. In fact I was recently hired by a small company because of my expertise and work ethic, saying to me "I can't tell you how hard it is to find an actual engineer, let alone a senior one."

  • @Kobayashhi
    @Kobayashhi 2 месяца назад +104

    25 years in IT and I confirm 100% what this fellow has said. The stuff I have seen....1GB spreadsheets that require guys working 24/7 to make sure it doesn't cras. AI is still a very very far fantasy for most businesses. In the 90s UML tools were supposed to replace developers...yeah right.

    • @OnigoroshiZero
      @OnigoroshiZero Месяц назад +17

      Only 1 month later, and your comment has aged like milk. Your 25 years in IT just show that you were wasted expenses, because you definitely have no idea about the field or AI.

    • @Kobayashhi
      @Kobayashhi Месяц назад

      @@OnigoroshiZero I studied AI while you were still wetting your diapers kid. AI is a fraud.

    • @tlilmiztli
      @tlilmiztli Месяц назад +31

      @@OnigoroshiZero Nothing has changed fundamentally. You are just buying into the hype. Let me guess - you heard about chatgpt 4o and you think NOW ITS GOING TO CHANGE EVERYTHING! Right? XD Like all the previous ones... Hallucinations are there, will be. It gets marginally better but will not do 100% of work for you. Buy into hype if you want, I really dont care. Its more of the same.

    • @danielgrove7782
      @danielgrove7782 Месяц назад +12

      Definitely? Aged like milk? That does not sound like a professional...im intrigued..what is your profession?

    • @gofastER
      @gofastER Месяц назад +6

      You have 25 years of outdated knowledge…

  • @loonu1991
    @loonu1991 29 дней назад +19

    I used to work as an art director for a small indie game studio and honestly I left my job and started doing freelance because of exactly the same reason. It got to a point where the games were just focused on marketing and sales, my input to it became solely relevant to just make it marketable and "current" rather than creating something interesting which was what drove me to become an artist in the first place. I now do a heck of a lot more work as a freelancer than I ever did and enjoy pretty much every bit of it. I honestly get a lot of projects because people generally want a human to interact with and tell their ideas and want input from a human who understand their idea on a similar level. So I think most people have already realized that the whole Gen AI art thing is just not working and probably will never satisfy their requirement for "art". The only thing I have to add from my experience is that being a human and communicating with others on a human level as to what they want along with the expertise in your field is pretty much the order of the day.

    • @rayecast
      @rayecast 24 дня назад +2

      My thoughts exactly. Too many "indie games" (and this goes for ones made by single developers as well) are all about being marketable and "current" as you put it, or trendy such that they fit into the mold, or I should say stereotype, of what people think of when they hear the term "indie game." It's all marketing and there are very few original and creative things going on in the indie space, which is odd considering how the indie space is considered something that's super creative and innovative compared to AAA games. To me it just seems like indie games are falling into the same traps as AAA games, but on a much smaller budget.

    • @ltwig476
      @ltwig476 22 дня назад

      Yes with art, people should not and generally do not really know what they want. It's more up to the artist to create the vision. I'm not familiar at all in software generated games. I come from retired graphic designer turned professional artist painter for the same reason that graphic design is more towards marketing than a creative vision. AI fails to understand human emotions and can only generate what seems popular. AI has more in common to how the narcissist is only left with copying what he/she sees in normal folks emotional reactions. It can't take concepts from one visualization and integrate into other visualizations. It is stuck in only what humans have shown.
      Such ideas that humans may need for the future maybe like "creating an highly enjoyable sport where humans don't compete for highest scores" Where few examples exist today, maybe fishing or atlatl competition, where the joy is only personal best score of the year. Self improvement type, where competitors are cheering and helping others succeed.
      AI works great in such as managing labor by the book. Is what most labor managers are taught today and why they are failing miserably. It's narcism. The great Industrial Age was ran by managers with unique understandings of people. So yes, AI will likely replace millions of these narcissist managers and industry will be left with the same employment failures.

    • @SnibummSnabers
      @SnibummSnabers 17 дней назад

      ​@@rayecastby "current" they mean, in line with DEI guidelines.

    • @billpugh58
      @billpugh58 5 дней назад

      @@SnibummSnabers Non DEI = totally messed up polluted corrupt world we are all living in. DEI = ……..no data so far.

  • @mattjsherman
    @mattjsherman 5 месяцев назад +100

    What about a "self" driving car that is really just a large front camera where someone in India is "virtually" driving?

    • @qweqwe9678
      @qweqwe9678 3 месяца назад +14

      oh yes 🤣😂

    • @JesusIsMyPower-w5f
      @JesusIsMyPower-w5f 2 месяца назад

      ​@qwe😂qwe9678

    • @jeronimo196
      @jeronimo196 Месяц назад +19

      I've seen how people drive in India.
      This should be fun.
      Also, we'll finally be able to die due to lag irl.

    • @gregrice1354
      @gregrice1354 Месяц назад +7

      Ahh, the Mechanical Indian, like the Mechanical Turk.

    • @JesusIsMyPower-w5f
      @JesusIsMyPower-w5f Месяц назад +1

      @@gregrice1354 jesus

  • @arhabersham
    @arhabersham 5 месяцев назад +76

    What a sober, mature approach to these developments ❤

    • @OnigoroshiZero
      @OnigoroshiZero Месяц назад +2

      Sober, mature, and completely ignorant...

    • @cantatanoir6850
      @cantatanoir6850 28 дней назад

      ​@@OnigoroshiZerowhat would be the right approach?

    • @tquasa07
      @tquasa07 10 дней назад

      AI only fans girl tier comment

  • @GuaranteedEtern
    @GuaranteedEtern 6 месяцев назад +103

    I doubt the next breakthrough in AI will be discovered by some guy in a garage - the problems that need to be overcome are massive and not even really well understood. A lot of the hype around AI comes from anthropomorphism and sci-fi fantasy.

    • @TheManinBlack9054
      @TheManinBlack9054 3 месяца назад +9

      "sci-fi fantasy" you're talking about AI systems on your computer using the internet, you're already livin in sci-fi by a wide margin

    • @GuaranteedEtern
      @GuaranteedEtern 3 месяца назад +19

      @@TheManinBlack9054 The technology we have now is more appropriately called Machine Learning and not AI - but I get it's definitional. I've never once felt that any of the tech I have used is intelligent in the sense it can reason or act with any agency.

    • @DarkFox2232
      @DarkFox2232 3 месяца назад +7

      That breakthrough comes from anyone who manages to persuade dogmatic idiots that AI does not start for "artificial intelligence", because it is not intelligent.
      So, it can be done by guy in his garage. Then industry starts to focus on meaningful research. To understand what "human like" principle is represented by model instead of "intelligence". And once they do understand, they'll realize that tasks like driving cars are not suitable for this kind of self-arranged spaghetti code. But there are tasks which are suitable.
      2nd breakthrough which may come from garage is network-collapse into tiny one doing same thing as big one, but with lower computational requirements.

    • @zotriczaoh7098
      @zotriczaoh7098 2 месяца назад +5

      Point taken but it neglects human creativity (free!) which, I think, is key to the next steps in understanding the problems. Going back to the 1890s, the next great breakthrough in physics came from a patent clerk. He needed zero investment dollars.
      This is a problem. We make negative predictions which seem OK until one of those unknown unknowns comes along.

    • @GuaranteedEtern
      @GuaranteedEtern 2 месяца назад +1

      @@zotriczaoh7098 I get the analogy, but all discoveries build on knowledge from before, and subsequent work builds on that. Even Einstein's theories didn't solve physics - we still have the elusive "theory of everything".

  • @kenl2861
    @kenl2861 25 дней назад +6

    This is great - the first cogent discussion of the status of AI I’ve heard yet. Thank you, guys!!

  • @careymurray1027
    @careymurray1027 День назад +1

    A recently retired software developer here. I've only seen hard working teams. I've worked in the games industry, bioscience, broadcasting, CAD/CAM, startups. The problem I faced was too many hours depending on the company and culture.

  • @danwilms
    @danwilms 2 месяца назад +9

    Having worked in the semiconductor industry for 40 years I can say it was very different where I was. Of course I was writing software and designing hardware to test products under deadline and once one project was done there was another to be done.

    • @piotrd.4850
      @piotrd.4850 Месяц назад +1

      See.... in semiconductor industry your work was ultimately validated by PHYSICAL PRODUCT.

  • @masterpep7218
    @masterpep7218 Месяц назад +9

    Not surprised a bit about the assessment by an insider. I've been saying since the start of this hype that AI is nothing more than a program and it needs a human to program it. The concept of "self awareness" will never be a reality, as it will always require guidelines, so directly (through calibration) or indirectly (through the original guidelines) it will always be under our control.
    You could see AI as a ship on the sea, that when it reaches land, it cannot go any further, as it was only meant to be on water. In order to be able to transform into a land vehicle, the initial programming will need to contain the concept of land as well, otherwise the ship just stops as soon as it reaches land and you have the BSOD.
    The misconception on machine learning is that the program will find solutions by itself, without original guidelines. That's impossible: if said ship reaches land and it has no concept of land, it will not be able to continue. If the coding tells it to approach any new problem in a random way however, it also means that there is no guideline tied to any rules, which means that anything goes. So just like in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, the program can assume a plant or a whale, as there are no rules any longer. And as a consequence, it will fail, since it will not be able to function within a logical ruleset of its environment, as it behaves totally randomly, hence chaotically. Anything that is chaotic ends in disaster without direction.
    As for the hype, it's clear why there are so many interests pushing this narrative of self awareness and a plethora of "solutions" (for non-existing problems most of the time, like self-driving): the AI will become the convenient scape-goat. Once the masses are led to believe that AI are more intelligent than humans and can take over tasks (initially only driving, then complex tasks like work and finally ethical decisions, like court cases, war, etc.), AI will be installed instead of critical tasks and the owners and programmers will no longer be accountable. After all, the "superior intelligence" can only make the right decision, no matter what that is! And noone will ever find out how the AI have a pre-set of guidelines along hidden agendas. Just look at how ChatGPT is steering thinking along woke guidelines or the utter failure of Google's Gemini.
    So the brainwash is in full force to convince the masses that AI use is justified. Hence the lies surrounding its ability to learn by itself and obviously the smokescreen is prepared by using popular and superficial means, like art, music, visuals. People are so gullible, they think that a close to perfect visual picture means intelligence..

    • @Llortnerof
      @Llortnerof 16 дней назад +2

      I'm still opposed to calling it "AI" at all. It does nothing but give people overblown ideas of what these systems can actually do.

    • @GarryGri
      @GarryGri 5 дней назад +1

      @@Llortnerof We are talking about Machine Learning, not Artificial Intelligence here. It's sad how many people don't bother to learn the difference.
      We haven't developed AI yet, maybe some time in the future. Possibly with a quantum computer or with analogue chip circuitry..
      I would suggest that anybody who thinks we have developed AI should read up on the ELIZA project from the 1960s and the Eliza effect.

    • @Llortnerof
      @Llortnerof 5 дней назад

      @@GarryGri Yeah, that's what i mean. AI has been turned into a marketing buzzword and very little that is named such is even remotely connected to it.
      I remain as yet unconvinced that we're even capable of actually creating one.

    • @111street
      @111street 4 дня назад

      Its a concentration of sinful, evil, mans knowledge, imagination an invention without God so in rebellion and perverted. A.i doesnt know or care for right wrong good or evil. Its a weapons system they can target you around the world by reading brainwaves even from space. These people dont believe in or acknowledge God, Gods creation, therefore to them man has any worth or value. Its dangerous, but tbey continue with it in complete rebellion against God and nature. The last many years they even war against reality.Think of prophecies how theyll worship the image of the beast (a beast or an image - like A.i. of mans fallen sinful state. AntiChrist technology)..Or another prophecy about bringing life to the image of the beast..Look how they are desperate to bring life to it.And say these are our new gods! You must comply its the future! No God is the future.

  • @ac0rpbg
    @ac0rpbg 3 месяца назад +7

    As someone in the aviation industry, and what you described in gatewick with the A-SMGCS system. I can give you some insights why that is the case. First of all such systems exist for very very long time. But they are expensive and the certification for aviation safety of such system is very very complex task. The GPS/GNSS used to have too large of an error for ground movement operations and there are way way too many vehicles so you can't really have them all equipped with Squitters because you will just just block the frequency. Parked vehicles will always have squitters off. GPS is also not secure enough and can be easily jammed, thus in order to use for operational purposes ASMGCS system you will also have SMRs(Surface Movement Radars), From concept to operations of a technology in the sector takes more than 20 years. It is not cost or investment that is making it so long but the whole Safety First culture and the extreme regulation.
    About some of the points of AI I think your view is way too balanced and you are downplaying some facts. Yes it is basically machine learning but how is human learning diffferent? The chat GPT Kenya RLHF example is not different than a human going to school being tought and shown how to solve tasks,write essays etc. The fact is that LLMs and some other AI models have shown to develop emergent properties very similar to how humans do. Even tho current models are narrow they tend to scale a lot with more compute and even tho Moore's law is dead in the sense of transistors scaling compute is actually increasing, and the fact that Mixture of Experts or multiple interacting agents that are very narrow and specific can work together and show synergy means that even tho we may hit a ceiling that it might be so high that the world can change very very fast.

    • @tobyhendricks9951
      @tobyhendricks9951 2 месяца назад

      While Neural Net AIs learn in a way that's... similar... to humans, they lack the logical association that humans use to learn. Knowledge, to a human, is interconnected in a way that today's LLMs could only dream of.
      When person A says "I want an apple", there's A LOT of meaning/processing behind that statement. This person has recognised a state of hunger/craving, they can visualise the presence of an apple alleviating it, based on past experience. They understand that the apple is food, they have an understanding of what it takes not only to acquire an apple, but how the apple comes to be in the first place (and most steps in-between). So in addition to intent, a statement like this typically communicates an understanding of what fulfilling that intent will cost as well as why the intent is there in the first place (among many other things).
      When person B replies "How about an orange?" it holds a similarly ridiculous amount of meaning underneath.
      Both AI and humans decide through likelihood, but the likelihood estimations are happening on completely different levels. When person B replies "How about an orange?", many layers of meaning have been exchanged, whereas, when ChatGPT replies "How about an Orange?", it's because it calculated that those are the most likely words to follow the statement "I want an apple".
      So yeah, when a human goes to school, hopefully they're extracting a vast amount of meaning from every lesson. When an AI reads a book, it's (mostly) skipping over the meaning and saying, "Ah, so this word is more likely to occur when preceded by these words". Completely different ballpark of intelligence.
      (Attention and embedding are cool, but they're a single step on the thousand mile journey to human level intelligence)

    • @AndreasAndersson-ve4jx
      @AndreasAndersson-ve4jx 17 дней назад

      The A-SMGCS sounds like what always appears to be missing in the discussion about driverless vehicles...
      Concidering the great expense & certification issues (for even the comparatively limited movement of planes/vehicles around airports), how could ever a generic driverless car system be created? Not least flying driverless car (there is a company Alef flying car, which what appears to be a totally unrealistic product idea...)
      Even if you just limited it to "2D", not flying. It will simply never happen..

    • @normanstewart7130
      @normanstewart7130 6 дней назад +1

      @@AndreasAndersson-ve4jx Not really, the biggest thing that's missing is a control centre, an operational centre that can track vehicles via surveillance and communicate with them. And why are robotaxis the big story in autonomous vehicles? Because they have a control centre. People point to robotaxi operators like Waymo as the pioneers of autonomous vehicles, what they don't mention is that they have a control centre that can manage vehicles remotely, so theyr'e not truly autonomous.

  • @neohelios77
    @neohelios77 Месяц назад +5

    App Analyst, here. Can confirm. I probably only do maybe an hour or two of actual work per day, and THAT's just finding busy work to talk about in SCRUM or maybe low-effort service desk work. All other time is spent on meetings as "subject matter expert", whatever tf THAT is these days. THE PROBLEM IS just about every problem I fix, I also fix the root cause (or work with vendor for RC), and the problems don't get repeated. That's fine, but eventually I will be patching myself out of a job. Then, on to the next application, I guess. Kind of self-defeating, and I constantly feel like the other shoe is going to drop.

    • @jameskeefe1761
      @jameskeefe1761 28 дней назад +2

      Doing to SCRUMs, meetings etc IS WORK. It may be useless work but it is a part of your job. Ive recommended against programming because, unlike the fantasy world these two guys are in, the hours are long, there is a lot of fatigue and burnout, and once your app is finished, you've obsoleted yourself you are working to put yourself out of business. Better to be a doctor.

    • @Llortnerof
      @Llortnerof 16 дней назад

      @@jameskeefe1761 It is effort, but for the most part it isn't real work, just time wasting. That's part of what causes the fatigue and burnout.
      And Doctors are also working to put themself out of business; they just can't keep up with the work so it never happens.

  • @thisbridgehascables
    @thisbridgehascables 4 часа назад

    I remember Prime reading that article. In my job as a developer, I get the work done faster than the expected deadline and always seem to be waiting for everyone else to catch up, either because they are lazy or don’t seem to care. Then I wind up fixing these people’s terrible code or just finish the project for them.
    Another thing, I’ll do is add additional features to future proof or provide other options in the code. Because for some reason , people above me can’t foresee or forget to tell me .. that there’s plans to expand what the is expected.. it happens to me constantly.
    In bigger companies communication is typically one big mess. They try to use all this software to track and keep everyone in the loop but then eventually stop using any of it..
    Actually had to go into the office today and waited for a confirmation email which never arrived by our hosting provider so I could do a deployment knowing a proper backup was done.. love wasting weekends on processes where everyone else involved is clocked out..

  • @obsoquasi
    @obsoquasi 3 месяца назад +2

    Best Podcast I heard in a while. I admit to having been sucked into the hype and thinking about "post labor economics", when the reality is so much more evident. Looking forward to Dr. Maggiori's next book!

  • @stefangunnarsson1189
    @stefangunnarsson1189 6 месяцев назад +13

    AI might have some crazy hype going on right now, like claims that we will see AGI in 2 years. But in the mid to longterm, its a no brainer where we are heading with AI and ALL of big tech is jumping on the AI train. There have been multiple big discoveries in the last 20 years in AI and computantional power per dollar is increasing on an expontionital rate and that is not slowing down at all. We are heading into a very interesting future.

    • @stephantual
      @stephantual 5 месяцев назад

      It's far worse than this. Reddit and RUclips are filled with people who believe AGI is already here because of the stochastic parrot effect, which was described in a paper warning this would become a problem over a year ago. 99% of these people have no computer science knowledge and couldn't even tell you what a context window is, but somehow have convinced themselves that 'chat GPT' as they refer to LLMs is fully capable of human reasoning. They are no words.

    • @Astro2024
      @Astro2024 5 месяцев назад +6

      It's a computer program, not AI

    • @nodell8729
      @nodell8729 4 месяца назад +6

      ​@@Astro2024A computer program that runs AI. Why brother with naming, it's doing very impressive inteligent work as we speak.

    • @memegazer
      @memegazer 4 месяца назад +3

      @@Astro2024
      A computer program that can explore a problem space and produce solutions better than programers working alone on that same problem without ML.
      The AI part is how the data has been modeled as the result tasking machines to learn from that data.

    • @cristianandrei5462
      @cristianandrei5462 2 месяца назад +3

      ​@@Astro2024So what AI is supposed to be if not a computer program?

  • @arxaaron
    @arxaaron 23 дня назад +5

    Once you learn the REAL story of the Luddite movement, you will be proud to be labeled a Luddite. It was about protecting the quality of fabric products made in a literal "cottage industry" verses centralized industrial automation. Luddite attitudes may yet save us from A.lgorithmic I.mpersonation.

  • @tromboneface
    @tromboneface Месяц назад +1

    I work in tech and I’ve been working nonstop for about 25 years. Inefficiency comes from management leading us in a bad direction, but we never stop working. We have tons of technical debt that we can address during lulls in new projects. We should be spending more time on upgrading skills.

  • @nbaprophet100
    @nbaprophet100 3 месяца назад +3

    It is indeed refreshing to hear a more measured and nuanced point of view. 100% agree on the waste generated by tech teams especially in investment banks.

  • @socialmedianewsnetwork9598
    @socialmedianewsnetwork9598 7 месяцев назад +14

    i remember bill balmer saying people would not use phones without buttons.

    • @arcomarco7131
      @arcomarco7131 7 месяцев назад +13

      And I remember people saying planes will replace cars (it was 50 years ago) or that by 2010 we will have a moon colony. P.S. It was Steve and people give him too little credit for what he actually did.

    • @deker0954
      @deker0954 4 месяца назад +8

      But they do have buttons.

    • @2LegHumanist
      @2LegHumanist 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@arcomarco7131
      I remember people making the OP's argument when I said ipads won't replace laptops, especially for software engineers.

    • @pieterkock695
      @pieterkock695 Месяц назад

      @@deker0954 :D cant argue with that

  • @dsinghr
    @dsinghr 6 дней назад +1

    AI will never go beyond being an assistant who writes my unit test cases and names my variables.

  • @LukeAvedon
    @LukeAvedon 7 месяцев назад +3

    This dude's book completely blew me away. BRILLIANT book.

  • @davetfft
    @davetfft 7 дней назад +2

    I also work in information technology and as a consultant one-time I had a project where we did literally nothing for 8 months straight. I didn't even start my computer or login or have any meetings, we did nothing and I mean literally nothing by the proper use of the word.

    • @quantumpotential7639
      @quantumpotential7639 День назад

      That's because all your work was quietly off loaded to the robot.

  • @nvjt101
    @nvjt101 Месяц назад +6

    These AI folks who are trying to build AGI, are doing the same thing as the Physicists did with String Theory to build a Theory of Everything...
    We as humans like generalities but in practice it's very very difficult to do so :)

    • @MarcGyverIt
      @MarcGyverIt Месяц назад +1

      It already exists.

    • @nvjt101
      @nvjt101 Месяц назад

      @@MarcGyverIt then you are nothing but delusional

    • @rahulsampat8698
      @rahulsampat8698 11 дней назад

      ​@@MarcGyverItHow do you know?

  • @toulaishsharma9255
    @toulaishsharma9255 2 месяца назад +1

    My sincere admiration for your deep insights and perspective of things, Emmanuel! Thanks you El Podcast ❤

  • @kevint3522
    @kevint3522 5 месяцев назад +2

    Best discussion I've heard so far.

  • @robderiche
    @robderiche 29 дней назад +3

    as far as jobs safe from ai displacement, i recommend the building trades. i have two degrees, worked as teacher, communications pro, tech guy, magazine editor, but didn’t find job satisfaction until i became a carpenter. i know it’s not for everyone, but desk jobs drove me crazy. also, master a trade, go solo, and sleep well knowing you are providing an essential service and keeping the fruits of your toil for yourself instead of enriching the bosses and shareholders.

    • @PinkyMcPinksAlot
      @PinkyMcPinksAlot День назад +1

      100%! Some say plumbers have saved more lives than doctors due to higher standard of sanitation that trade makes possible.

  • @casxdillia
    @casxdillia 8 месяцев назад +5

    Yo glad to see that my personalised profile on youtube picked up this vid, may you reach opulence!

  • @rabcproj
    @rabcproj 26 дней назад +2

    Great interview and guest! "What's the gain?" (1:07:00) is something that everyone in business should really ask themselves. We had Amazon Go in downtown Chicago before COVID. I went in a couple of times and was underwhelmed. "OK, it's 7-Eleven without the clerks. Big whoop..." lol

  • @wileycoyote9688
    @wileycoyote9688 4 дня назад

    I’m at 19:31, and you just discussed how AI-driven cars can’t handle the 1% edge cases. What are your thoughts on the Waymo taxis in San Francisco?
    I live in the Tenderloin where you have people wandering in the streets, cars double parking, jaywalkers, frequent police/fire trucks/ambulance emergencies, cars slamming on their brakes, left turns into jam-packed traffic, etc.
    I see the taxis every day, and they take on all of these edge cases like a champ. Even better, they no longer drive annoyingly cautiously, holding up traffic. They drive confidently and efficiently.
    Yeah, the taxis are limited to San Francisco, but they seem to handle the 1% edge cases quite well.
    Sorry if this gets covered later in the video. lol

  • @ronmc1677
    @ronmc1677 Месяц назад +3

    really good podcast brother, you asked all the right questions that were on my mind as well. keep it going and cheers!

  • @hwhack
    @hwhack Месяц назад +10

    I did Support Vector Machines (SVMs) in grad school. I laugh my butt of when people think NNs and Machine Learning will be sentient. It's nothing more than a really complex spell check.

    • @daviddickey9832
      @daviddickey9832 20 дней назад +2

      Maybe the question is, what is sentience? Can an ant which has many less neurons than we do be considered sentient? It seems like what's needed is very big, non-linear systems that create emergent behavior. Many of these AI systems seem to more closely resemble parts of a brain rather than the brain as a whole, like visual processing, auditory processing, linguistic processing, etc.

  • @kkm312
    @kkm312 11 дней назад +2

    The best conversation I've seen about AI. Thank you!

  • @andrewhancock2451
    @andrewhancock2451 27 дней назад +2

    Dr. Maggiori commented on how many organizations try to make AI work without much insight into whether it makes sense. But the people making these decisions don't necessarily have the inside view. I think that it sometimes makes sense to just try it to see whether it works. Since it's new territory, of course, there will be lessons learned about the challenges to advantageously exploiting AI. These may arise from poor fit with the problem and/or from implementation challenges. They may be too great to permit success, or they may provide a vantage point from which to try again with greater prospects of success. Many will have more a pessimistic view of the prospects, but ultimately, the only way to know is to invest the resources in trying.
    I fully acknowledge that some endeavours will be riskier than others, involving more unknowns, and which more insiders might disagree with. That's the nature of innovation. Hindsight is 20-20. Each investor or stakeholder (including employees) decides whether it fits their risk appetite. Just like in investments, it's good to have a spectrum of risks.

  • @TheGammelfjols
    @TheGammelfjols 2 месяца назад +5

    Read the book Bull shit jobs by the late David Graber, it hits this phenomenon right on the nail

  • @kajkabea
    @kajkabea 8 месяцев назад +6

    Very interesting. Thank you.

  • @gimmemyish
    @gimmemyish 18 дней назад +1

    This was a great interview. Thank you very much. Please bring this gentleman back.

  • @badpuppy3
    @badpuppy3 6 месяцев назад +12

    Every AI image generator should be required to record every output on a blockchain, so that image can later be traced back to that AI.

  • @f4ust85
    @f4ust85 4 месяца назад +10

    I didnt expect much but it actually turned out to be one of the best podcast on AI I heard so far, very informative and without all the fluff and clichés. Thank you.

    • @elpodcastmedia
      @elpodcastmedia  4 месяца назад +1

      Thank you for your kind words

    • @TheManinBlack9054
      @TheManinBlack9054 3 месяца назад +2

      Its not informative, its the opposite

    • @ShinobiShaman
      @ShinobiShaman День назад +1

      ​@elpodcastmedia I've never seen anybody with such a low subscriber base, have a guest on with a published book. So kudos for that. Interesting interview. I didn't know tech employees were so idle.

  • @OTISWDRIFTWOOD
    @OTISWDRIFTWOOD 8 дней назад +10

    Its so funny that you think this is unique to the tech sector. Most people are loitering, talking to nice colleagues and producing nothing and its the same in all departments that dont produce physical products.

    • @unknowninfinium4353
      @unknowninfinium4353 День назад

      We got smartphones, wireless headphones, gadgets that help in measurement of electricity to help electricians and more.
      If you can see it then it's on you.

    • @carlmack2188
      @carlmack2188 3 часа назад

      I couldn’t agree more; i did consulting work for small order fulfillment companies, many of which I noticed all their salaried or professional staff, shot the breeze most of the day though they could cloak it in biz terms at the beginning the middle and the end of their sessions, so everybody on the team could feel good about themselves. When I went into the warehouse I would see 30-50 year old men busting their tails filling those big trucks with 50# boxes all day long for minimum wage. These guys were always talking about the minimum wage. Management perplexed at the high turnover. I asked them why do you pay your dependable hard working people minimum wage? “Well it’s unskilled labor” one said. Unskilled labor? You can put whatever label you want, but you show me someone who is here everyday Monday thru Friday, 52 weeks a year filling those trucks up executing your primary service and I would say that person is as valuable as a member on your marketing staff who works abou 3, 4 hrs a day tops. I suggested performance based compensation to reduce turnover. They wanted to marinate over it. This is a common theme. It’s unfortunate.

  • @dcbaars
    @dcbaars 6 дней назад +1

    In all the AI coverage i’ve seen so far this is one of the honest and in depth discussion of the advantages and disadvantages of AI.

  • @kcm624
    @kcm624 7 дней назад +2

    I have worked as a software engineer for 15 years. Worked at two large Silicon Valley companies and never heard about people being idle. Everyone was doing work every day.

    • @crybabychrononaut
      @crybabychrononaut 4 дня назад

      "work"

    • @sebastianschweigert7117
      @sebastianschweigert7117 3 дня назад +2

      Because you didn't have an "AI" job. You were probably doing real work

    • @PinkyMcPinksAlot
      @PinkyMcPinksAlot День назад

      I believe you. I think he is describing his experiences in an AI department that was basically a solution in search of a problem. I assume people writing real code are diligently working

  • @languagepool-germanusingli9902
    @languagepool-germanusingli9902 5 месяцев назад +12

    This is the best video I've seen for ages. Thanks so much.

  • @alainterieur794
    @alainterieur794 4 месяца назад +6

    Finally, an intelligent conversation about AI. Thank you for the podcast, it's really interesting and as a programmer, I find it very sobering.

  • @bitmanagent67
    @bitmanagent67 Месяц назад +2

    There is no single experience in tech. If you work for an enterprise, software, SaaS, consulting, or small business you will see similarities and difference. Even within organizations, there are people who do all the work 60 hours a week, and there are people who take 2 hour lunches, play ping pong for 3 hours, and leave early because they have nothing to do. Don't let this one take define the entire industry.

  • @kylewollman2239
    @kylewollman2239 Месяц назад +2

    Looking forward to reading the book. I mostly hear about AI from the people trying to sell AI so it's nice to hear a different perspective.

  • @rodeorods5694
    @rodeorods5694 8 месяцев назад +25

    Very interesting to find out that AI is not as advanced as the sales pitch

    • @foxt9151
      @foxt9151 6 месяцев назад +10

      His core point was litterly that "oh look there are billions in the industry and we havent hit AGI/ASI yet, it wont ever ever happen"
      Thats his quintecense of it all, like with self driving cars he said. Oh no, the newest study released from waymo recorded that their self driving cars were safer than average human driver by a large margine.
      Certain projects take a long time, I mean imagine how long it took to get from punchcard machines to computers. we should have given up at the vacuum tube stage. all the money that has flown into computers and nothing! besides a living room sized calculator!

    • @seriouscat2231
      @seriouscat2231 6 месяцев назад +10

      @@foxt9151, AGI/ASI is a metaphysical impossibility. It is not within the realm of actual science or physics.

    • @tybaltmercutio
      @tybaltmercutio 5 месяцев назад +12

      @@seriouscat2231As a fellow physicist I would be curious if you could elaborate on this as I do not really see how it AGI is physically impossible or would violate laws of physics.

    • @seriouscat2231
      @seriouscat2231 5 месяцев назад

      @@tybaltmercutio, you need to reread what I wrote. Unless you are willfully misunderstanding, in which case never mind.

    • @tybaltmercutio
      @tybaltmercutio 5 месяцев назад +10

      @@seriouscat2231 No need to feel attacked. I actually was genuinely curious about your take.
      But after reading it again carefully - and combining it with your reply - I realize it is just a bunch of non-sense put together to sound smart.

  • @nitesh-maharaj
    @nitesh-maharaj 3 месяца назад +13

    Majority of the tasks people are trying to resolve with AI can be done with a where clause.

  • @79bull
    @79bull 21 день назад +2

    Best interview I’ve watched this year, thank you 🙏

  • @barbi111
    @barbi111 Месяц назад +2

    I only have one question has left, that why AI is not programmed like if it does not "know something" (AKA has no data) just tell: I don't have any data or I don't know, instead of hallucinating. And how is it not a mathemaical problem(mathematical logic) that when it says something we don't have the fact that it is hallucinating or doesn't know something. How can we sure about it is correct or not?

  • @unrealdevop
    @unrealdevop Месяц назад +7

    Yeah Ai won't be replacing Tech jobs anytime soon. If Tech Jobs are being laid off it's because they are over-staffed not because Ai is replacing them.....simply put the Tech field is too over-hyped and everyone wants a Tech Job.

    • @crybabychrononaut
      @crybabychrononaut 4 дня назад

      Uh-huhhhhh... I'm sure AI will have a really tough time figuring out...software coding... 😂

    • @unrealdevop
      @unrealdevop 4 дня назад

      @@crybabychrononaut It will, and the reason why is simply that, Ai has no reasoning skills. You would have just as much luck teaching a Parrot to code because just like the fact that a Parrot doesn't understand what it's saying....neither do Neural Networks.

    • @PinkyMcPinksAlot
      @PinkyMcPinksAlot День назад +1

      This! Some of the layoffs were due to irresponsible hiring by the companies. They go on hiring sprees and then waves of layoffs and the normalization of that is a problem in of itself.

  • @priyakulkarni9583
    @priyakulkarni9583 Месяц назад +8

    You guys are excited about Anti AI 🤖 propaganda! All AI scientists and experts are worried about exponential growth of AI and one man in this video enough to tilt the balance 😅😅😅😅😅
    Enjoy the ride
    AGI coming my dears

    • @OBEYTHEPYRAMID
      @OBEYTHEPYRAMID Месяц назад +1

      If they manaage to develop fusion. Otherwise, no juice, no AGI.

    • @hydrohasspoken6227
      @hydrohasspoken6227 Месяц назад

      dream on mate

    • @hydrohasspoken6227
      @hydrohasspoken6227 Месяц назад +1

      your grand grand children will hear "AGI within 2 years" as well. And they will share your hope.

    • @priyakulkarni9583
      @priyakulkarni9583 Месяц назад +2

      @@hydrohasspoken6227
      Hallucinators say that!😀😃

    • @priyakulkarni9583
      @priyakulkarni9583 Месяц назад

      @@hydrohasspoken6227
      Wake up 🆙 and see reality 🤣

  • @philipganchev2306
    @philipganchev2306 26 дней назад +1

    As a software and AI/ML engineer for a decade, I have not seen this at all. I and my colleagues have been pushed to work extremely hard. Meetings are short and we are spared meetings that are not needed.

  • @logan56
    @logan56 29 дней назад +2

    It will be interesting to get his take on working in IT after he puts in 30 years .

  • @joanvallve7647
    @joanvallve7647 2 месяца назад +20

    This interview is just great. Not only because of the AI analysis but because of all extremely bright statements on Scrumm, Self driving, how the soft industry worked last decades because of low interest rates, etc. This content is a sample of genuine natural superior intelligence. Thanks for that!

  • @yapdog
    @yapdog 4 месяца назад +13

    I wrote an AI-centric novel where I actually predicted much of what's happening. Of course, no one cared since the story was neither dystopian nor utopian.

    • @ricardogarciarevilla6922
      @ricardogarciarevilla6922 Месяц назад +2

      I asked

    • @yapdog
      @yapdog Месяц назад

      @@ricardogarciarevilla6922 If you don't mind my asking, what did you ask?

    • @vis4083
      @vis4083 Месяц назад +4

      That's still great, and a big accomplishment that you wrote an entire novel! good for you!

    • @yapdog
      @yapdog Месяц назад +1

      @@vis4083 Thanx😁

    • @satvikarora5813
      @satvikarora5813 Месяц назад +1

      where can i read it?

  • @nickspeelman9174
    @nickspeelman9174 Месяц назад +1

    As an all-purpose coder/developer for a small, not-tech, mission-driven, high-performing organization I am consistently shocked at how long it takes entire teams of people to do the same amount of work as me. And it's not because I'm particularly talented. (I'm competent but not a genius by any stretch.) It's just because most for-profit organizations are so incredibly bloated I'm surprised they're able to function at all.

  • @jgonsalk
    @jgonsalk Месяц назад +2

    Interesting conversation. I didn't have time to watch the whole thing but didn't watch part of the section on ChatGPT. I do think you are mistaken on the idea that ChatGPT doesn't have an understanding of the world and that hallucinations can't be understood. The architecture of ChatGPT (particularly transformers and vectors) do create an empirically derived view of the world. It is a pity we don't get the probability distributions generated by each individual prediction, but OpenAI can investigate this. Also, the embeddings do seem to extract a semantic map of human language across that 12K dimensional space (in the case of GPT 3, it's likely much more for GPT4).
    I do agree that it is overhyped but the scaling laws are yet to be broken and we might see more emergent capabilities from larger models and will likely see smarter ways to apply them (i.e. multi-agent approaches) that lead to improvements.
    That said, the idea that we'll be able to generate literary works of art with a prompt is clearly misguided, as are similarly fanciful notions based purely on AI hype.

    • @elliotanderson1585
      @elliotanderson1585 Месяц назад +1

      When the best AI scientists suddenly start working on AI safety, you know it's not just hype.

    • @AbadonBIack
      @AbadonBIack 23 дня назад

      ​@@elliotanderson1585That's ridiculous. You don't put airbags in a car because you know it's going to crash, you put them in to account for the possibility of them crashing.
      I know AI is cool and you're excited for a Star Trek future, but don't believe everything people who want your money (AI companies) tell you about the future of a product they haven't successfully created a product for.

  • @calmhorizons
    @calmhorizons 3 месяца назад +3

    Really enjoyed the book. Great interview.

  • @rursus8354
    @rursus8354 6 месяцев назад +32

    Thank you! I knew intuitively that the ChatGPT and OpenAI stuff are hypes, but I had too few arguments, just a gut feeling.

    • @OnigoroshiZero
      @OnigoroshiZero 4 месяца назад +5

      You clearly don't know anything if you think that.

    • @rursus8354
      @rursus8354 4 месяца назад +8

      @@OnigoroshiZero I certainly do know something about neural nets and language models. (And using AI)

    • @howmathematicianscreatemat9226
      @howmathematicianscreatemat9226 Месяц назад +1

      @@OnigoroshiZero can it be a new Mozart or DaVinci without copying those works before ?

    • @stevrgrs
      @stevrgrs Месяц назад +1

      It’s not hype. This guy is delusional. Just because he worked as a guy in Ai doesn’t mean squat. The reason he didn’t have any work is probably because he wasn’t trusted with the important stuff :P
      Ai is already drastically changing Art, music, writing, programming, computer animation, videos , editing etc and it’s only getting more insane.

    • @stevrgrs
      @stevrgrs Месяц назад

      @@howmathematicianscreatemat9226of course it can. But who cares ?
      Davinci was mentored by Veroccio and Mozart was mentored by Haydn and others.
      It’s the ability to take information and twist it and use it in unique ways that make “geniuses”. AI can LITERALLY mash up millions of disparate topics / ideas instantly and try novel techniques in simulations etc.
      Even if it never saw a Davinci painting , or heart a Mozart concerto, it would discover it on its own by basically simulating all the possibilities of painting and music from the initial fundamentals of color and sound :)

  • @AndrewKieran
    @AndrewKieran Месяц назад +2

    I feel like noone who talks about ai professionally has ever worked with their hands and have no idea how much of the economy can't be automated away because multipurpose, agile, intelligent robotics is still really not a thing.

  • @winst2000
    @winst2000 5 дней назад

    I worked in upper management, I can tell you many non-technical executives, including the CEOs have no ideas how things work. They just want numbers they can measure and see improvements over time. The board doesn’t really care because it is not their money. You see companies keep hiring people then get rid of entire division when strategies change. It is depressing but that is just the way it is. When you have leadership who is technical competent, people do good work.

  • @liam3284
    @liam3284 5 месяцев назад +19

    "you need to be either highly positive or highly negative" So much of Tech at the moment.

    • @dm8579
      @dm8579 15 дней назад

      It's not just tech. It's everything else as well.

  • @goodrobotsai
    @goodrobotsai 2 месяца назад +17

    I work in tech as a Machine Learning / AI Engineer and I gave up looking for fulfilment after my 5th job role. I earn 6 figures, work from home 5 days a week and only work ~3-5 hours per week. No joke. Nothing new. Like seriously, the most little task that can be done in 1 hour takes 5 sprints (1 sprint = 2weeks). Like bruh, it's 10 lines of codes..

    • @ricardogarciarevilla6922
      @ricardogarciarevilla6922 Месяц назад +2

      and what's the problem? lol or are you braggin'

    • @ruffethereal1904
      @ruffethereal1904 Месяц назад

      ​@@ricardogarciarevilla6922I feel a sense of "Is this it?" An easy job can feel like bullshit and devour your soul, material compensation is just one aspect of job satisfaction.

    • @ricardogarciarevilla6922
      @ricardogarciarevilla6922 Месяц назад

      @@ruffethereal1904 You are probably depressed or have some sort of mental illness. It's not normal to have a huge profit low risk job and feeling quite down about it.

    • @totalermist
      @totalermist Месяц назад +7

      @@ruffethereal1904 that's a problem of the individual then. I've been working in tech for almost 3 decades now and I live in this awful parallel universe where compensation is shit , expectations are high, and the workload can be overwhelming. Software "engineers" in particular seem to be so mentally dysfunctional that they don't even realise they actually live in paradise. The US corporate structure also seems to amplify this by a lot. I mean, come on, what do think working at a factory production line, a cashier job, data entry clerk, or being butcher in a large-scale slaughterhouse feels like? Sometimes a job is just that - a means to an end, something to bring food on table and pay your bills. It being "fun" or "fulfilling" is just a bonus. If you want meaning or fun - that's what hobbies are for and if someone claims to only work a couple of hours per week, there's plenty of time for fun projects, self-improvement, education, etc.

    • @pablovirus
      @pablovirus Месяц назад +5

      @@totalermist agree 100% with you. Lol if I was earning 6 figures working a couple hours per day, you bet I'd be learning new crafts, trying out new sports, and other hobbies. IMO if one wants fulfillment one can help others by volunteering for local causes.

  • @gregvisioninfosoft
    @gregvisioninfosoft 16 дней назад

    wow! ive never worked at a fortune 500 company, only for smaller companies. but the development i used to do, and team members, were always stretched to do far more than they could do in a normal work week. so this is a super interesting perspective. if anything, when i was asked to estimate my project times, i was usually known for saying a longer period of time than others. but the difference was when i turned in projects, they seldom, if ever, required incremental fixes, babysitting, or new features, as i would give some critical thought to the design first, to try to cover many bases and to thoroughly troubleshoot before deploying it to end users. whereas other developers would turn something in 'quick' but the rest of the life of that cr*pware, they were contstantly called back to continually fix, change and modify what they did. anyways, i only had my one long term experience, so i dont have a broad employment experience.

  • @MarekFajkus
    @MarekFajkus 2 месяца назад +1

    I work in tech for almost 15 years and what this guy says is 100% correct in 90% of cases. The rest 10% is the extreme opposite. In reality there is a lot of work being done on software and even more work that needs to be done. But allocation of resources and skills required to do them is poorly distributed. Most tech companies are less effective in managing engineering projects than USSR was in managing their economy. That's also why USSR lasted much longer than average software project does.

  • @WisomofHal
    @WisomofHal 6 месяцев назад +15

    I needed that first 5 minutes. I've been in the dumps. I studied CS and programmed like a mad man to get good enough to do really fun things. My first job, I really enjoyed it. I was writing tons of code, but it was nothing new. It wasn't exciting or innovative. I thought joining one of the big tech companies would give me that itch. I somehow made it to one of the big tech companies and I feel so empty, oddly enough my ambition is actually draining. I'm making great money, but I honestly didn't do this for the money. I did it to make an impact. I'm actually getting depressed because I don't feel like I'm making an impact. I'm actually taking a role in tech that is considered less "prestigious" then software engineering, but I actually find it to be more satisfying and it requires you to actually work constantly. I mean, where is my head at - that I'm willing to actually take a role that requires me to work when I can literally cash in on stock, continue making well above six figures and coast? I am really on a dry spell right now and I need to build something, but idk how I lost my edge.

    • @amdenis
      @amdenis 6 месяцев назад +1

      You are working for the wrong companies. Do your research and make sure to invest in learning what you find interesting, and then research and find companies where you can do that sort of work that you find interesting. YOU are the solution yo that problem, but you have to take that initiative.

    • @WisomofHal
      @WisomofHal 6 месяцев назад

      I completely agree. I have a one or two domains that I'm very interested in, but I've been pursuing roles that are outside of those domains and I work on things that are, sadly, uninteresting to me. @@amdenis

    • @darylallen2485
      @darylallen2485 6 месяцев назад +7

      You say you're making good money. Why not save a money cushion and launch your own business doing what you find fulfilling?

    • @BruceWayne15325
      @BruceWayne15325 5 месяцев назад +1

      You and the guest speaker are both working for the wrong companies. You can find jobs where you are a high paid lump if that's really what you want, but I've only ever been in one job where that was even a possibility. Most places that I've worked, if you tried to work 3hrs in a month or more like the guest speaker says he does, you'd be tossed out on your butt, as you should.

    • @Karim-ik5ij
      @Karim-ik5ij 5 месяцев назад

      DOuble dip and work 2 jobs at once. Just don't tell anyone.

  • @dailyhubranx
    @dailyhubranx 3 месяца назад +7

    I'm just wondering how to get these jobs where I do nothing and get paid a lot

    • @ellow8m
      @ellow8m 2 месяца назад

      We all haha

    • @supernova2875
      @supernova2875 2 месяца назад +2

      Nepotism

    • @Piaseczno1
      @Piaseczno1 9 дней назад

      You have to pass the exam. Maybe a fitness test in augmented reality. Pretty convoluted at the end of the day.

    • @nosuchthing8
      @nosuchthing8 3 дня назад

      Sometimes you have people with great qualifications on paper but it becomes obvious they can't actually contribute

    • @dailyhubranx
      @dailyhubranx 3 дня назад +1

      @@Piaseczno1 I think you have to be vegan

  • @xlerb2286
    @xlerb2286 2 месяца назад

    There are times when it is hard to work. I quit my prior company because for 18 months we were in the middle of an infrastructure reorg that was supposed to take ~3 weeks and 18 months later we were still down. I could write code (without requirements), but there was no path to getting it built, tested, or deployed. Though that was an unusual situation. The prior 12 years had been full time good solid work - real work. The place I'm at now, it took a few months to really find a spot for me so there was a lot of thumb twiddling there as well at first. I'm about a month away from retirement, can't say I'm sorry about that.

  • @scruffy4647
    @scruffy4647 26 дней назад

    I am just a machine maintenance technician. Retired now. Over the years, what I have observed is more automation on the plant floor. Minimizing human labor. It's inevitable, part of the progression of employment. AI is not as sophisticated as we're led to believe, however, no doubt that it will progress. Physical labor is decreasing and mental labor is saturated. Really interesting comment about Twitter reducing there workforce by a substantial amount and still maintaining the same level of output. Good luck with future employment.

  • @ChrisAthanas
    @ChrisAthanas 6 месяцев назад +8

    Yes cult of agile is way overblown 6:45

    • @bloopbleepnothinghere
      @bloopbleepnothinghere 2 месяца назад +1

      What are the alternatives though? I've seen a lot of all of it and agile is as good as any.
      The problem is dogma. You can't be dogmatic about agile, that defeats the whole purpose. Agility accommodates the nature of tech. Engineering is ambiguous at times, and an engineering team needs to be able to accommodate spikes, injections, outages, change in business demand, etc. Other industries can't do that, manufacturing requires rigid planning because once a die is set, it is expensive to change. Software enjoys the ability to pivot at a moment's notice but to be able to take advantage of that you need a process that embraces that. That is where agile comes in. It's tried and tested, but often abused, and seen as the end, rather than simply a means to an end.
      On my team we work in whatever way makes sense for the work we are doing. We change processes whenever we feel like it. We can adapt to a significant roadmap change without too much fuss because there really isn't anyone stopping us. We are asked to deliver, and no one cares how we do it. To me, that is an agile team.

    • @piotrd.4850
      @piotrd.4850 Месяц назад

      @@bloopbleepnothinghere Decades of experience in legitimate project management methodologies?

    • @bloopbleepnothinghere
      @bloopbleepnothinghere Месяц назад +2

      @@piotrd.4850 lol, agile is a decades old legitimate project management process. Waterfall is up there too, but it doesn't fit all either. People hate on agile, but that's because they take it as gospel which is basically the antithesis of agile. If you start believing in Jira, and heavy process and think that's agile and you've already lost your way.

  • @geno755
    @geno755 6 месяцев назад +5

    Great interview - thank you very much. Finally someone rational and proficient on this topic.

    • @SleazyMartines
      @SleazyMartines 5 месяцев назад

      Such a refreshing talk hearing someone with sensible views

    • @TheManinBlack9054
      @TheManinBlack9054 3 месяца назад +1

      No, its not a rational or proficient interview

  • @Jesse615
    @Jesse615 3 дня назад

    Here are two other points re: robo-taxis. For context, I live in NYC, so I have taken countless taxi or TLC (ride-share) rides. And not once did I think, "I would give anything to not have a human driving this car". Like a lot of tech-bro, Silicon Valley ideas, it solves a problem no-one really had to begin with. As well, if Uber or Lyft aren't yet profitable, how and when would a robo-taxi company, who would have to be financially responsible for not only the ride-share platform, but the car, consumables and insurance ever be profitable?

  • @enricobulic
    @enricobulic Месяц назад +1

    Great topic, great questions and awesome answers!

  • @enermaxstephens1051
    @enermaxstephens1051 Месяц назад +6

    Well it's always "just a matter of time" so I don't think you have an argument there. If this was the year 1890, you'd be saying the same thing about cars replacing the horses. You'd say "Oh yeah suuure, we'll see a Model-T Ford... I'll believe it when I see it!" But it was just a matter of time wasn't it? Sure it was 20 years later. But 20 years is a matter of time. And the way Ai works is that once a certain point is reached (which we haven't reached yet) it is capable of improving itself. So that "matter of time" is smaller than waiting on the Model T Ford. It's 5 or 10 years from GPT 3. Or you could say 20 or 30 years from OpenAi's inception. So while you do make a lot of other good arguments, that isn't one of them.

  • @johanmeijer133
    @johanmeijer133 3 месяца назад +5

    Dr. Emmanuel makes a great observation that neural nets can only solve for instances that are in it's data set of training. The edge cases for self driving cars are such an example. Us humans with much smaller training data sets can solve these kinds of problems in short order thanks to our abilities of abstraction, general world comprehension and reasoning.

    • @sshreddderr9409
      @sshreddderr9409 Месяц назад +2

      humans, and any kind of animals, basically inherit a functional system that was "trained" and adapted during each previous generation of all ancestors that ever lived, down to the earliest form of matter. its basically like a system where the hardware and software has adapted over billions of years, and besides its many dimensional parameters, its dataset is also the result of all other living and non living systems any generation of life ever interacted with directly or indirectly in any chemical or physical way cause all perception is like its input that can be processes. basically, life is the result of a system that can alter itself in any way with a virtually unlimited degree of freedom, and has had access to nearly all information encoded into the ecosystem of the entire planet, all at once at any time through indirect influence. it doesnt take a genius to understand that recreating anything remotely similar in performance is completely impossible

    • @JCAtkeson3
      @JCAtkeson3 Месяц назад

      ​@@sshreddderr9409 You make a really good point but I wouldn't say impossible. Never identical to life, but instincts are not a moving target and can be overtaken in finite time. Not even by AI, but by biology, genomics and robotics, which are all exploding right now.

  • @sebastianschweigert7117
    @sebastianschweigert7117 3 дня назад

    I am a software developer. Ive only watched the first 7 minutes so far. My perspective is that this guy is right on some things, but these are by no means deep insights. The problem with the tech industry is massive incompetence. Managers are part of the problem, but developers are also to blame. I'd say less than 10% of developers are actually "competent." And anyone who is competent is going to notice how all the work is being inflated and people have nothing to do. It actually does take these incompetent people 2 weeks to "rewrite a paragraph" and even then the work will be badly done.
    Pointing this out is not some big revelation, it's constantly talked about by those in the know. But it's impossible to fix because smart people are a minority. Most dumb people don't notice anything wrong. It's idiocracy.
    The funny thing is that these "AI developers" are typically the worst and most useless of all. This is evident when you consider that a big company will hire 70 of them without even a project and think that's ok. That shows you how low the standard are for such people.
    So it seems like this guy has dunning kreuger effect. He is surrounded by fellow "AI developers" so he thinks his insights are deeper than they are.
    But hey, i do appreciate that he is spreading the word. That can't hurt.
    Also, i take issue to the idea that scum is like a religion. I agree, it's a problem and generally quite stupid. But every company does things differently. Its not like there is some rule book they all follow to be consistent. It's just a rudimentary way of tracking what you're working on. "Im working on task X and it will take me a week." Just really basic planning. The problem is that the managers are incompetent and thus allow their employees to inflate the difficulty of their tasks.
    But i dont think there's anything inherently wrong with planning and tracking your progress. And scrum isnt restrictive or dogmatic. It isnt anything. Its basically just a fancy spreadsheet you can add to to track your work. Thats all.

  • @ncnhomegrown
    @ncnhomegrown Месяц назад

    This video is the 100% honest truth as I've been in the technology industry for 14 years and I am currently responsible for software and services solution scope, design and pricing for our entire business unit for Automation, Data & AI.
    We have had a lot of business success and expanded from a team of 3 to 30 in about 2.5 years most of our growth has been demand driven not just growth at all cost and I am responsible for profitability.
    We mostly sell solutions to handle mundane tedious business information tasks, most of what we sold that drives real value to a business is automation and data engineering with some AI solutions for very, very specific use caes and everything sold has been analysed for return on investment and future strategic goals.
    All our solutions solve the most boring tasks that people and businesses strongly dislike.
    Fundamentally no one cares about technology, no one cares about how much public image status your company has, everyone wants problems solved to drive value through efficiency at a price point.
    Edge caes and having a really good understanding of them is the difference between a successful project/business and total failure.

  • @Billy4321able
    @Billy4321able Месяц назад +11

    His explanation of how AI works was presented as if it were damning evidence against current methodologies, but that's not the case. The "function finding" capability of AI in controlled environments is what makes it so powerful. Machines can learn to perform a wide variety of tasks without explicit instruction, which is crucial in domains where the steps are unknown or too complex to write out.
    Interestingly, adding more real-world tasks to a model's training set can improve performance across those tasks, even if they seem unrelated. For example, teaching a model the difference between a dog and a cat can enhance its ability to perform other tasks. Some researchers believe this might be due to a form of model pruning, where useless paths are avoided, hinting at an emerging general intelligence.
    This has led to the adoption of a "more data and modalities" approach, hoping for exponential performance increases. However, so far, the gains have been marginal. We still don't know if this generalization will extend to edge cases not in the data. Technologies like self-driving cars continue to struggle with edge cases and lack a comprehensive world model.
    As far as whether or not AI will go rouge, I think that is unlikely. That doesn't mean it isn't possible though. You talk about how the constraints put on AI are currently integral to their success in completing their tasks, but that doesn't preclude someone from making an AI without such limited capabilities. So I don't really understand how you can state the problem, but in the same breath claim it won't be a problem, just because. In an almost child-like curiosity I have to ask, "because why?"
    I understand we don't yet have the level of AI that would even be considered dangerous, but I don't want to risk everything "just because". So maybe we should start thinking about the why right now.

  • @josketcha
    @josketcha 3 месяца назад +8

    AI "Art" is overhyped. I still think digital art is safe. AI is limited to it's database and it can't make anything new or original. It might look impressive at first glance but it has a lot problems and doesn't understand the fundamentals of art or color theory. It only understands patterns. Honestly do what you love and keep drawing.

    • @zacharychristy8928
      @zacharychristy8928 Месяц назад +1

      Im not even an artist and I feel like I can always tell AI art because it lacks any sense of composition at all levels.
      For example, when a person decides they want to make a picture of a hyper-detailed scifi cyborg woman flying through space, there'd be intentionality in the woman's pose, how it shows off different mechanical details, they might choose to give her an open cybernetic ribcage to add an element of body horror, or instead make the robot body parts look sleek and smooth, like an Apple product. Then the background and other scene elements come together in a cohesive way that takes lighting and perspective into account. Maybe there's a ringed planet, or an asteroid belt, or something causing conflict or intrigue like a spaceship flying after her. Whenever I see AI art try to make something like this, it always seems like it combines the elements at random, because they can technically make sense, but don't cohere into a complete vision. It feels like it was created through cold iteration on forms (because it basically was).
      Not to mention, there isn't nearly as much control over these tools as people like to think. You can't really make minute adjustments with the level of precision and control that an actual artist has, and those details are what separate art that's great, from art that's "good enough".

    • @ricardogarciarevilla6922
      @ricardogarciarevilla6922 Месяц назад

      Worst part is, AI dummies don't care. The fact that they can write a prompt, makes them look intelligent in their own eyes and they have started to belittle other humans with actual skills and calling his shit 'art' better because it takes less time to produce (newsflash, it's shit, no matter how much they tweak it, only anime art looks barely decent, but it's AI shit it could look good but it's the same vaseline crap!)... then they start to cope that they can fix it, it's all so tiresome, the technology of mediocre people

    • @svektor68
      @svektor68 Месяц назад +4

      Isn't that how humans work. What is original? When I see some drawing of a Sci-Fi alien creature, its usually put together of parts from existing creatures. Everything you know and create is based on a database of experiences and consequences in your life. This is the same for all of us. None of us go deep into minds and create anything new. At least my thoughts, based on the lectures I've listened to, and my experiences.

    • @ricardogarciarevilla6922
      @ricardogarciarevilla6922 Месяц назад +1

      @@svektor68 you are not an artist and don't understand the difference between "AI" art and actual art done by humans... my god, the fallacy of everything has been done is the most ridiculous one. Then AI art is shit by definition, and most people defend it to death given they lack any artistic merit without it.

    • @zacharychristy8928
      @zacharychristy8928 Месяц назад +1

      @@svektor68 it's "part" of how humans work, but humans do a LOT more.
      Humans can take inspiration from different contexts and re-shape them into new ones. Humans can form more global compositional intentions and make far more cohesive art. We are not simply statistical collage machines. Think very hard about how would go about making something creatively. Yes, you may be able to relate every element to some inspirational source, but you did much more than just place those elements together and make them roughly fit. That's more or less all an AI is doing.

  • @danieloneill9093
    @danieloneill9093 21 день назад

    I just bought the audiobook as it's something I want to learn about and this guy seems pretty honest. I just need something to listen to at work tomorrow anyway. Hopefully, it's interesting.

  • @justinanderson267
    @justinanderson267 Месяц назад +2

    59:45
    This is a HUGE problem in the gaming industry. That, combined with people learning improper techniques from RUclips University like destroying game objects instead of caching and reusing them.
    That's why all your favorite videogames lag out and crash constantly these days. People are just using copy pasta code.

  • @codingrules
    @codingrules 5 месяцев назад +8

    I've worked as a software-developer for 12 years in 4 different companies. I have NEVER run out of things to do. Not even close. In one company we did not get anything new to do from the outside for half a year, and we were still no where close to running out of meaningful work to do. So much goes in to stuff the customers don't see that still adds value (maybe to the customer and maybe to the company). If nothing else because much of this work makes it easier to maintain the codebase and get new work out to the customer faster and in a safer manner.
    Though, I do believe that some juggernaut companies have resources to waste and are willing/ignorant to do so.

    • @JArielALamus
      @JArielALamus 4 месяца назад +1

      That last part I can confirm it is definitively true. Picture wasting weeks if not months of man hours because the tasks they create take months to be created and when they finally arrive, it takes waaaay too little time to complete (two sprints tops to complete everything they took months to bring to us) We can't tackle tech debt because of bureaucraziness and most of the time is spent in self-training (you have to go through more bureaucraziness to get aproval for good training courses and material)

    • @brytankak9598
      @brytankak9598 2 месяца назад +1

      I thought it normal to look for tasks and opportunities in the absence of top level direction? I've always done so, unless was prevented by permissions or obstinate management (exception.) There's always efficiencies that can be made, e.g. streamlining and automation. Writing documentation or making the code cleaner in the absence of other tasks.

    • @JArielALamus
      @JArielALamus 2 месяца назад

      @@brytankak9598 I agree with what you said. Blessed the ones who are on teams that allow us to do that. Not all of us are that lucky tho.
      Ultimately, we are part of a team and unless the team is onboard too, we may just waste our time with things that won't be used and not noted by leadership at all. The only thing left for us, is the learning experience.
      It won't do any good, team wise, to do documentation no one else is going to read or keep up to date, to tackle tech debt if no one is going to approve PRs and let them get outdated with the main branch, to write tests to automate them if the team keeps doing them manually and refuses to learn how to automate tests... Without Top Level direction / leadership approving the work we do, it will remain as things we do for ourselves, unfortunately 😔

  • @Canna_Science_and_Technology
    @Canna_Science_and_Technology Месяц назад +5

    I seriously have no idea what you’re talking about. I’ve been a software engineer for 30 years and an AI engineer for three I am working from 8 AM to 7 PM coding nonstop as well as my team I worked for UPS and Comerica bank and we were busy all the time. I actually thought this was a joke. Anyway, I guess everyone’s experiences are different.

    • @skylark8828
      @skylark8828 Месяц назад

      He's lying

    • @piotrd.4850
      @piotrd.4850 Месяц назад

      @@skylark8828 He is not.

    • @piotrd.4850
      @piotrd.4850 Месяц назад

      Figures. I have seen both.

    • @79bull
      @79bull 21 день назад

      Depends on the specifics. Many companies on US stock exchanges hired people to attract more capital / increase share price by creating the illusion the company is growing.

    • @Iron-Bridge
      @Iron-Bridge 12 дней назад

      Grunt work programmers like you definitely work hard. Upper management make work bloat employees generally don't do any real work. Dilbert syndrome.

  • @cb73
    @cb73 10 дней назад

    I’m in tech and a couple years ago I quit a high paying stable job (even with a mortgage and a family to worry about) to go work for a startup where I do actual valuable work.

  • @youjean83
    @youjean83 6 месяцев назад +1

    Good talk. Can relate. Thanks

  • @BossTerwilliger
    @BossTerwilliger 3 месяца назад +3

    This guy is awesome. Excellent interview. I’m picking up that book!

  • @machinized
    @machinized 5 месяцев назад +2

    I work in IT, - never had a minute of free time at work 🤯 Yeah, but everything is legit what is said here.

    • @ckatheman
      @ckatheman 11 дней назад

      Hear hear. I have almost no free time from the time I go in, until I leave unless I purposely make it.

  • @userxuserx
    @userxuserx День назад

    In 1994, at the age of 13, I encountered a BestBuy salesman who confidently asserted, "The internet is just a fad; it will be gone in a few years." Even then, I discerned the shortsightedness of his perspective. Dr. Emmanuel Maggiori's comments on AI bring to mind that salesman's misguided view.

  • @MichaelElfial
    @MichaelElfial 15 дней назад +1

    Yeah modern management cares about putting certain trendy bells and whistles on the table, but not about the project itself. Even in small companies the atmosphere is already toxic and the only way to survive is to shut up and let them do stupid stuff. Unfortunately there are a lot of people who spend their lives learning to think, plan, invent and it is very difficult to dumb yourself enough, especially when the balance between old programmers and modern coders is already tilted too much in the direction of the latter, saying something under these circumstances puts you in an Idiocracy world.