Delta Force Operator Reveals The REAL Difference Between SEAL Team 6 And The Unit
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- Опубликовано: 19 май 2023
- Retired Delta Force operator Dave Nielsen talks with David Hookstead about if Delta Force or SEAL Team 6 is more impressive.
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Another guy from this unit said it best ..”you go thru SEAL selection/training as mainly a group… you go thru Delta selection/training mainly by yourself…”
Killed more dudes than malaria 😭😂😂😂
he’s not wrong
From listening to 100s of operatives and ground forces, it just seems like almost unanimously Delta is a much more respected force with less fuckups.
LOL. You did an online poll? LOL Delta was founded on fuckups. It's Army.
Hooah!
@@Anonymous18817
Delta Women
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@@boltgamer7there are literally female operators in G squadron
@@Kriegter G squadron is a support squadron made up of support SOF Operators like SWCC for the Navy/ Night Stalkers for the Army and non-operator support personnel not actual kicking down doors operators, females in G squadron/Delta and Gray Squadron/Devgru shouldn't even be labeled as an "operator" especially when it comes to Devgru or Delta Force who only let the best of the best join join their ranks to become Tier 1 "Assaulter's"
Serious skills the both - glad to have you both 🙏
This is actually the most gentle response from a Delta talking about ST6 haha. Most other Unit vets are less complimentary of their Navy peers
Why would that be?
I never heard ST6 down talk about Delta or any other unit. They don't punch down. Why does Delta? Jealousy but to be a tier 1 and the elite of the Army they sure act like children in that department and bickering. I have listen to a lot of ST6 interviews and there is not 1 that talks ill about Delta or another unit. Most of ST6 will even compliment the Marines and say they do the most with little support and cheap equipment. That's how a PRO should be in public.
@@deathfire096 yeah that seems to be the case. I think some of that stems from, like you said maybe so jealousy of the spotlight they’re given, but also some of the scandals that have emerged over the years coming from 6. Plus the there’s the consistent gripe that SEALs can’t can’t keep up in landlocked theaters where infantry basics are critical, but seems like they got that figured out over time.
@@TypicalKid100 It's like they (some) that go public dislike the SEALs(some) that make books and interviews in the open but they trash SEALs themselves in public. They don't apply their own standards. I'm a Veteran in the regular military and I know bickering and fights happens within especially in war but that should stay in house. If DELTA or another unit trains or deploys with the SEALs, any issues should be dealt with in house during debrief and training not be taking in public. I NEVER seen ST6 bicker about DELTA or any other community. It makes some DELTA members look small when they do it.
@@deathfire096why do you dick ride st6 so much?
Dude this is the most accurate representation of both units, ST6 is a direct maritime action force. If you want someone killed you send them and they’ll do it the best on land or in water. But if you want someone saved, you send delta they would do best in that. The difference in the 2 is the TYPE of training, seals are big because they swim ALOT. Delta is skinny cuz they can out-ruck ANYONE.
DEVGRU is a Sledgehammer
CAG is a Scalpel
@@wolf7el356 this the dumbest shit bro theyre both scalpels, you think a sledgehammer could carry out the Bin Laden raid? Their scalpels with different strengths. A sledgehammer is like the marines or army infantry
Assume u both have tons of real life experience with both t1 units. Delta is skinny…😂😂 Fuk me, the keyboard commandos are top notch
@JSully You didn't watch the video did you?
@@TheAbyssGazedBack I’m in the Military
As a U.S. civilian who never served, right around tax time I pretend all my tax money is going to Delta and the Seals. I consider it money well spent.
Lol. This is Gold.
damn good analogy , im gonna use that to ease the pain a bit
Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m from Arizona.
What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a CAG assaulter? How does the Delta Force community feel about women joining them?
If you had to go to CAG selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course?
I’m 5’8” and 173lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
@@Anonymous18817no women ever will join delta forces unless they lower the standards and if they do they wouldnt be delta no more . Only the elite of the elite are there no offense
@@Anonymous18817 there's women in delta but they are not assaulters they're job is espionage
I was around some SAS guys and they were huge compared to our Green Berets, but the GBs were carrying the same packs and were very athletic!
@@Anonymous18817 no woman ever has and most likely never will, no offense.
there are plenty of more obtainable jobs within the military, just join get experience and go from there.
@@kobusvandenbrink1679 well said
@@Anonymous18817😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I have had a chance to work with both units on joint ops. Both are unique in there own way but who was more well rounded from what I saw was Cag. They were just laser focused and fast as hell and watching these guys work, it was like they saw what was happening before things were actually happening. Just my opinion from my time on the ground.
Dido. Personally, I think CAG is far better at TLPs, especially Planning and Refine/Assess.
Hostage rescue is a substantially more complex tasking. Hitting HVTs is something even regular line units can and have taken on with relatively little issue. HR? You only send the best.
Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m from Arizona.
What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a CAG assaulter? How does the Delta Force community feel about women joining them?
If you had to go to CAG selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course?
I’m 5’8” and 173lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
@@Anonymous18817 You have impossible chances of getting in and its not just because you're a woman. Delta Force don't just recruit because of physical prowess, but your ability to adapt. They only take the cream of the crop among men recruits, who are on par with Olympic athletes. But that's just a small part of it. They are more psychologically selective about their recruits than other branches. You're always in a state of selection, they can kick you out at any time of service.
To be Delta, you have to be insane to some degree. You have a much better chance of trying out for tier 2 units where grueling physical training is the bigger focus. I'd look at other teams, and see, start small and work your way up and see where it takes you.
How would they feel? It depends, can you bring your A game at all times? Can you prove you belong? You ain't shit till you share a fox hole.
@@Anonymous18817 The Mission, The Men & Me is a great book. Relentless Strike, Inside Delta Force, The Hunt for Bin Laden, and many more.
You would not be the first women in CAG. Women have been there for decades. However, none of them are Operators.
CAG is a place where exceptionally gifted Soldiers struggle to be mediocre. Negligent Discharge? You're gone. White Light ND? Gone. Pull shots outside the A Zone? Gone.
There are obviously going to be people who simply don't want women on teams/troops. Most people don't care about anything other than one's ability to perform. That's the bar. Which is excellence on a bad day.
My sage advice to anyone attending any Assessment and Selection has always been what an former Operator/1SG told me. Don't quit and learn from your mistakes. They can teach you how to Shoot, Move, Communicate, and Medicate. Nobody can teach someone how to not be a quitter when sane people
would quit.
Cheers
This delta guy is 5’7 ? That’s inspiring bro. I heard only tall guys pass SFAS due to crazy weight on ruck marches but if he got in and he’s short too it’s really inspiring
Have a patient I treated from middle school up. He went into sf and made onto cag. He wasn’t a stud. Smart and is getting out to go to med school, but skinny about 5/11 175.
Good kid and a great young man.
Another patient was in cag, but his grandfather just said he says they pay him to exercise and that’s it. He was home schooled and never did a sport. Super super quiet. Looked like he had seen things that no one should. Didn’t know he was in until his grandfather told me (who raised him). He was about 5/9 180-190 solid.
@@chironow3446 you’ve seemed to have lived quite a fulfilling life, bravo to you. The most capable warriors in history came to you to get better. I’m not sure if you’ve heard this before but if you save super hero’s , you become one 🤝
Just goes to show you, height and size isn't everything. I'm 5'6 and I can't express enough how sick I am of people not taking me seriously. But I put my all into what I do and prove their narrow minded assumptions wrong.
@@chironow3446I mean that’s a cool story, but the OP was talking about the veteran here being 5’7”. If your patient was 5’11”, that’s a very different story. That said, that’s cool.
Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m from Arizona.
What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a CAG assaulter? How does the Delta Force community feel about women joining them?
If you had to go to CAG selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course?
I’m 5’8” and 173lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
Met a legit delta guy and he was so unassuming. Funny I was talking to a trained killer and he was friendly and humble. But the real deal.
You just never know
that's their job. Blend in. Look at Edward Byers. He was a SEAL who received the medal of honor, but looking at him and his demeanor you would never guess it. I have been around some SOCOM guys and never asked what they did but all were very laid back cool people.
Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m from Arizona.
What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a CAG assaulter? How does the Delta Force community feel about women joining them?
If you had to go to CAG selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course?
I’m 5’8” and 173lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
@@Anonymous18817 Woman bleed every month . That right there means I can smell you if your my enemy . Go to Israel you might be lucky . I know the Yanks wont have a bar of it either .
A very humble response. I don't think anyone beats Delta.
I served in the Army and was stationed at Fort Drum, 10th Mountain Division, in the mid 90s. Delta was there a lot. They were distinct looking and their eyes were different, cold and sharp. Often they would fly over with six of them hanging on to a ladder under a helicopter doing at least 100 mph, among other things. Insane, and their conditioning was elite level. My belief is that the difference is honor. You would never have had a Delta member profit off of the killing of Osama. NO WAY any of them would have talked about it. Man they would run by our units during PT in full ruck holding huge sniper rifles running at twice our pace, in combat boots. In perfect unison, eyes forward. HARD ASSES. And they were all white guys.
1st SFOD-D always seemed to be the definition of quiet professionals meanwhile DEVGRU seems to shout from the hills how they are quiet professionals and super cool.
So your last sentence tells me the SEALs are better in the end..
@@MrBojangles2020 how so lol
@@MrBojangles2020most SEALs aren’t black because a disproportionate number of black men cannot swim. You obviously aren’t getting through SEAL training without very good swimming skills.
Just because he made an observation that they were all white guys, doesn’t mean he had anything against any other races of people. It was just an observational
wait a minute most of those operators on the unit and SEAL Team 6 were white guys, I hardly ever see any blacks from those groups, and as a black dude I don't have a problem with who's defending this country, hats off to them.
Why has no one interview Kevin Holland the only known person who has served on both units and has over 2000 combat missions throughout his career.
He's had a lot, but not 2000. There's just not enough time for that many.
Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m from Arizona.
What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a CAG assaulter? How does the Delta Force community feel about women joining them?
If you had to go to CAG selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course?
I’m 5’8” and 173lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
The thing is, they all have the same type of guy. But Delta is the only unit that is completely self sufficient. Lastly, delta will pull from anywhere. Even the band, or navy or Marine or National Guard. They only care if you can make it. In the book All Secure, Tom Satterly talks about the guy from the Army band making it all the way to the end.
Completely self sufficient? LOL You made that up? They are part of JSOC. They can't move a finger or get a penny without JSOC. Delta takes mostly from SF and Rangers. After 9/11 they were fighting 2 wars and needed to fill the slots so they take from out of the Army but very small % but it's still ARMY special force so they take 90% from within the Army. Just because you put operators from different communities doesn't mean they will be tight on their 1st deployment. Devgru are very tight because they have been in the same community doing deployments for years.
@@deathfire096 ruclips.net/user/shortsXe2xRr4lBvo?feature=share
There ya go buttercup 😘
Delta is realistically only taking Tier 2 operators, maybe some T3. Not a guy from the band who isn't already combat arms.
Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m from Arizona.
What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a CAG assaulter? How does the Delta Force community feel about women joining them?
If you had to go to CAG selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course?
I’m 5’8” and 173lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
John schrek McPhee on one of this dudes older podcasts...
The unit needs nothing. The unit is a completely standalone counterterrorist organization.
Seal team 6 has to rely on augmentees and support personnel from JSOC.
Think about it for a second The Navy doesn't even have Humvees.
That was a great podcast. McPhee is a funny dude.
This is silly. DELTA and DEGRUV are under JSOC. NO military unit is standalone. They have to follow the chain of command and military law. To say the Navy and Marines (belongs to the Department of the Navy) doesn't have Humvees is so false that I question your military knowledge. The Army gets the most Humvees than any other branch because they are the biggest branch and are primary land but all branches get Humvees. SEALS not only uses land transportation but Naval and Air. The difference is combat diving. ALL ST6 are qualified combat divers while a few DELTAs are. You won't see DELTA in the Fleet or operating from a submarine.
@@deathfire096 Well both of you are wrong, Humvees are being phased out for JLTVs and SOCOM has their own special vehicles as well
you are so wrong on this lmao, STS supports both units and they are air force AND the night stalkers, both units are supported by others, who even gave you this dumb ass take?
They both are governed and funded by JSOC, so you obviously are clueless and don't understand either.
How do you know someone’s a navy seal. Don’t worry, they’ll tell you.
Some....most, of these unit dudes we'd worked with were scary. Not in any overt way at all. Never had a problem, almost overly calm older mature dudes. And since most came from SF they were great teachers and made friends easy and always had time to train others. But they absolutely did not play when it was time to go to work. That line of "I know some of our guys that killed more people than malaria" is right along the lines of a quote that paul howe has said from the blackhawk down fight. "There's a new sheriff in town, and they need to know if they mess with us we will kill them wholesale"
Theres tough talk, then there's talk from guys that could back it up easily.
Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m from Arizona.
What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a CAG assaulter? How does the Delta Force community feel about women joining them?
If you had to go to CAG selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course?
I’m 5’8” and 173lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
@@Anonymous18817 Woman bleed every month . That right there means I can smell you if your my enemy . Go to Israel you might be lucky . I know the Yanks wont have a bar of it either .
I'm glad I came across your channel.🍷
The good thing about this guy is that you could probably nerd him up real good and no one would know he could shred.
Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m from Arizona.
What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a CAG assaulter? How does the Delta Force community feel about women joining them?
If you had to go to CAG selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course?
I’m 5’8” and 173lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
DEVGRU is the modern day moniker for "SEAL Team 6". That change took effect years ago.
Mad respect for both units, their are Apex warriors. My experience working with both (ex Ranger Batt in the mid 80’s), the Unit is the most tactically sound, ultimate professionals. And yes, I agree SEAL TM 6 dudes looked like NFL linebackers…physically impressive, but I’d still rather fight with Delta…went to Grenada with both units…Delta got it done. Again, mad respect for all these apex warriors.
Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m from Arizona.
What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a CAG assaulter? How does the Delta Force community feel about women joining them?
If you had to go to CAG selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course?
I’m 5’8” and 173lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
I'm grateful to have both of these assets in our military arsenal. To me it seems like Delta selects "average" looking dudes that blend into the crowd better and therefore draw less attention to themselves. Whereas, SEALS seem to be more direct action units these days that go after high profile targets. I will say that it also seems like becoming a SEAL these days comes with a book deal and gear endorsements. If you want to take down a hostage situation on a boat call the SEALS. IF you want to take down a hostage situation in a building or on a plane call Delta.
That sums it up man!! Delta wears more hats. They do EVERYTHING.
I think the way to know who's most effective is who's in the news more? You rarely ever hear anything about Delta Force in the news. Why? because they don't create any attention. Nobody knows what the hell happened when they are involved. So Seals get the attention, but they also make more noise. So they are great at what they do, but not as precise.
both are frauds
@@bohemenper1636 LOL wut?
A lot of delta ended up in sad, sog…
I love his attitude.
🇺🇸🫡 I love that both units are American.
No
Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m from Arizona
What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a CAG assaulter? How does the Delta Force community feel about women joining them?
If you had to go to CAG selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course?
I’m 5’8” and 173lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
@@Anonymous18817 you’d never make delta, too fat.
little guys can move better. 🙂 Happy he said he implied it was not the size, but the mental toughness that makes the difference.
I worked at a place where one of the guys was ex delta. Small 5'6. Didn't look anything like a super commando. But when I read more about army special forces/delta force he was more likely to be than the nfl linebacker type.
Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m from Arizona.
What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a CAG assaulter? How does the Delta Force community feel about women joining them?
If you had to go to CAG selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course?
I’m 5’8” and 173lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
it's called "the Unit" for a reason..
cag is king
Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m from Arizona.
What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a CAG assaulter? How does the Delta Force community feel about women joining them?
If you had to go to CAG selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course?
I’m 5’8” and 173lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
@@Anonymous18817No chance of women getting to CAG, they cant even get into Green Berets or Rangers
@@Mariusz-mq2tg there’re four female green berets and several female army rangers
@@Anonymous18817 Exactly and thousands apply + hardly any green beret or ranger passes the selections for the CAG (despite being male) so for a woman to get there is unfortunately practically impossible simply because of, for example, the rucking and the weight of the backpack which is the same for everyone and women are not able to carry it, if you did I would aim for rangers or green berets although even that is doubtful and if you passed then you would be exceptional, and very much so.
There's an age old saying, it's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog
Pinchers are angry and feisty AF, but they can't kill a mildly agressive rottweiler. LOL
@@rafaelcarvalho7727pincher n sabe atirar 😔
It really comes down to hair gel yes/no
Well, Delta don't throw frags around when they haven't secured the PC yet on a HR op.
Code over country….
Orrrrr blow up a door with friendlies on the other side of it. That’s how Tyler Grey’s arm got fucked up, Devgru blew the door without realizing Delta was already inside the house engaging targets. Later on in that op Andy Stumpf got shot 3 times
@@WarInHD i thought it was a grenade tossed by an iraqi insurgent that destroyed tyler's arm..
@@WarInHD Yup. DEVGRU took casualties heading towards the house because they were puffy chested, and hit it head on after a botched hit 100 yards away. Being roid heads they didnt think about their cover was blown, but said fuck it "Get-R-Done". CAG took the house from the back, entered, met with blind fire, and got stalled for a second. This was the point DEVGRU pissed off with zero situational awareness breached a door/wall right next to CAG operators damn near killing Tyler.
DEVGU's attitude/aggressiveness got their buddies fucked up, and almost killed two DELTA operators whom snuck into a house so fast other T1 blue forces on he same fucking op had n clue. Call it fog of war, but everyone knows ST6 being a hammer that they are is what caused this fucked situation. A 6'-4" 250lbs bad ass means fuck all when you can even do the job right.
@@WarInHD Interesting. Where can I find that story with Andy? Episode? Thanks, brother.
Don't forget, as soon as a SEAL finish his training, he will have a movie, a book, and a podcast.
He's pretty humble. No slight to any other spec ops units, but Delta is the tip of the spear.
a huge viking looking 6'2 team guy stands in the middle of the crowd with a crowbar in his hands and furiously fights everyone, yelling: I AM THE BEST I WILL BEAT YOU ALL. thats Joe, he is the team guy. but at the same time, right behind that fighting crowd of people there are small inconspicuous bushes arround, and there's small 5'9 skinny Billy, in disguise, throwing huge bricks at the crowd, one brick - one man down, one brick - one man down, one brick hits Joe and Joes down. thats Billy, Billys smart, hes the unit guy.
Anyone else cringe when you hear people in the comments talking as if they have been in every special forces unit around the world.
They were in the different one, the Very Special Forces.
It makes sense to have different sizes of caliber of mean on CAG. Airline takedown, urban spy stuff, hostage rescue, etc, require it.
The selectivity alone puts 1st SFOD-D on a whole different level. There are years where NO ONE is added to their ranks. They take the 100 best applicants...and NONE of them cut it. Plus it is just a different mission, with a strong intel/tradecraft aspect to it. The CIA SOG commonly recruits from Delta.
I went to train ST6 on a technology that was big in the 2000s and they came and found me on the Sunday before the training which was weird as they told me to get in a plan van and I did not know where I was going but its was some kind of high security compound. I get overtime, so no problem. Then they asked me if Delta doing this yet as competitive in nature. Already been there and guess what, 22nd SAS beat both of you. Always a pleasure working with the highest motivated students for sure.
How many SEAL TEAM 6 operators would make it through DELTA assessment and selection? Hiking up and down mountains with secret time limits, which forces the candidates to do their best.
How many DELTA operators are Combat Divers since that is the toughest qualification in the Army. Ocean is a lot tougher than mountains. The world is 75% water to 25% land.
Only one has.
@@alexander1902 because probably only one has tried. If you’re in the brotherhood of the seals teams, not many guys will be willing to give that up for anything. There are also a lot of regular seals that left to try out for delta, that’s what delta’s combat diving unit is made up of. But there’s no other guy that was Devgru, left Devgru to join delta. If you’re tier 1 in a brotherhood like seal team 6 you won’t leave it for anything. The guy who left actually retired medically from Devgru, then after sept 11, he joined the army and tried out for delta.
There are a lot of regular navy seals that try out for delta. That’s what delta’s combat diving platoon is made up of. So yeah, a lot of seals have tried and made it.
@@rickhunter7443 Seals tryout for Devgru.
Same community. Only a few that don’t make it switch to Army. Army has their own combat diver school for the army. All SEALS are combat divers. Only a small % of Delta are.
Delta is up up. the PT test was serious business yo.
That SEAL in the balaclava is the point man of zero dark thirty.
That's interesting & sounds a lot like what I read an SAS guy say. He said they tended to be smaller, wiry guys & SBS were bigger & built like surfers.
Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m from Arizona.
What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a CAG assaulter? How does the Delta Force community feel about women joining them?
If you had to go to CAG selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course?
I’m 5’8” and 173lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
I'll never tire of Delta stories... Keep 'em comin'!
When I think of Delta guys, I think of operators who are perhaps a tiny bit older than their ST6 counterparts.. and arguably a tiny bit more nerdy, whereas the Navy guys are gonna be more physically imposing. Different tools for different jobs. a Philips head isnt any better than a socket wrench... They're best utilized for differing tasks. Sure, there's lots of overlap and crossover, but I'm just trying to make a point here. Both orgs exist for a reason, and that reason isn't merely because our military bureaucracy loves redundancy and inflated budgets... Uhh, I mean, they do love that stuff too, but they also realize they can have both orgs and finely tune them for subtly differing missions.
And I get a good kick out of the CAG/Devgru rivalry stuff.. you just gotta realize they're both amazing organizations and a little bit of friendly rivalry is healthy and totally normal for a job of it's kind.
Maybe SEALS look bigger and more athletic because ALL SEALS including ST6 must be Combat Divers Qualified, ALL. While in the Army only a very small community in Special Forces are Combat Divers. You can be in DELTA, SF or RANGERS and not be a combat diver. You have to be a combat diver in the SEALS including their Tier 1 ST6. Ask any Army personnel that Army Combat Diving School is the hardest qualification in the Army. So you know how harder is it in the Navy.
A lot of Delta mindset is also to be able to blend in on black ops. Nothing is going to blow your cover faster than being this jacked up muscle bound dude.
Before you put them on a pedestal just know they are for tiny insignificant problems. Any real threat will wipe them out in a heart beat. I mean osama bin ladens goon squad over ran 79 delta operators. Then he escaped. Just understand they are not super human. The White House endangered our delta guys by believing the Hollywood bs. They were fighting 12hrs. If not for the USAF they all would’ve been screwed no doubt. . we only use socom or jsoc on issues that don’t actually matter like a hostage rescue. If we get in a real war socom will be wiped out on Day 1. So that’s why our conventional guys deserve the most attention and praise being they will be the ones to save the country.
They have more in common than differences.
Most of delta final selection process is with individual performances and very little metrics are revealed, even after selected. A lot of psychological assessment. A lot of individual problem and determination, like the infamous land navigation tests and marches.
Blending in is also a major part of their tradecraft.
A lot moved on to sad/sog, other black ops, and paramilitary units.
Where’s the full video?
The Unit provides a tip-if-the-spear SWAT & DevGru provides a Revolutionary War Militia.
It isn't the skills, but about how it is used. After WW II, Ford Motor Company bought and converted the warehouses used to build planes, etc. All he did was take advantage what was already in place. I already understood the background in place. The only thing that happened what the unique use of the already existing skillset. IE, a mountaineer is now being told to swim across a lake and maybe at night or within the water with a compass. They are all volunteers for a reason.
If you were helpless and dropped somewhere on earth randomly and got to choose between being with Delta or DEVGRU to survive. You’re with Delta hands down.
Jonny Kim talked about being 135-140lbs when he was going through BUDS. Very small guy. I know someone who ended up being a seal and he was 5-8 or 5-9. Maybe ST6 operates this way only selecting huge dudes but there’s two examples for sure of guys who are not big guys and were in the seals
You are correct. This Delta dude is only 5’7” so he looks up to everyone. You can’t tell me that the Unit only has 5’7”, 140lb dudes. There are big SEALS and little SEALS, same in the UNIT.
I imagine there's a mix. You'll have big SF and big Seals.
No. There's a SEAL named Ellis whom is 5'7" 150lbs tops. Team 10 machine-gunner; DevGru, then went on to fly H-60s for the 160th.
@@riehle.j8561 crazy that one of the smallest guys on that platoon is carrying the most weight. Shawn Ryan had a podcast with Tyler Grey where Tyler talked about being an assistant gunner carrying a hundred pounds of gear for the gunner. I’m assuming the gunner also Carrie’s the same amount of weight
The overarching philosophy here is don't f*ck with short guys. I'm 5'6. You come at me, it's going to be a bad day for you.
If you can fly in and out by helicopter then ST6 if not Delta. In gulf wars it was sas/sbs and delta who went covert deep behind the lines . Different skill sets .
Yes... Delta trains in tradecraft and covert ops extensively. There is a reason CIA SOG is closely associated with Delta.
I suppose it is the same in the UK. SAS tend to look a lot more average than SBS, but royal marines are just bigger than army...
There are ST6 members that try out for Delta, but Delta guys don't try out for ST6.
One will tell you who they are and have a book deal in the works. The other just want to blend in.
Just differnt mission. They are both elite units tier 1. They both are at the top of their game with gear and training
The Unit and SEAL team 6, are both great groups. There are areas where both groups shine their light brighter than other. The Unit does not do many if any maritime operations. But they probably do more hostage missions. However, SEAL team 6 did get BinLaden and rescued Jessica Lynch. Since the Unit works at least 90% on land I will give them a slight edge. But anything to do with water there is only one group that handles that the best. I heard a SEAL say onetime in an interview, that the only way he stops or doesn’t win is if the enemy kills him. That would be inline with what the Unit would say also.
Jessica lynch wasn’t really a rescue, and they got OBL because of who was in charge of the Joint Chiefs. If you reallly wanna know the truth. Delta was the first option
SEALs= SEA, AIR and Land. I never seen Delta on the Sea. As of matter of fact all SEALS are Combat Divers. It's mandatory for all SEALs including Devgru. Only a small group in the Army are. Combat Diver is the toughest qualification in the Army. Since the earth is 75% ocean and 25% land and SEALS are trained to be on both, I say the edge goes to ST6. Longer and tougher pipeline.
Unit also got Sadam Hussein and al-Bagdhadi (former ISIS leader). I'm just glad both those guys on our side.
Only reason st6 got osama bc the jsoc commander at the time was a former seal 😂
@@TheMarginKid and Admiral McRaven got it right! That’s why he got the job and you didn’t 😂. He knew who to send and it won Obama Re-election. JSOC doesn’t have the final say which plan to take. It’s up to the President since it was a CIA operation with the intel. The Army already blew it in Tora Bora. Even Obama knows the difference between maybe to a sure thing. Obviously the President is going to go with the sure thing, Seal Team 6 and not the Army who blew it years earlier in Tora Bora.
T6 say they are the quiet professionals. Delta are in fact the quiet ones. Seems who gets the op depends on whether a general or admiral is in charge at DoD
well this guy isn't quiet. He is doing interviews. A bunch of former Deltas does interviews. That's the opposite of quiet.
He was doing everything he linguistically could to keep himself from saying that Delta would wipe the floor with Seal 6.
True that
Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m from Arizona.
What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a CAG assaulter? How does the Delta Force community feel about women joining them?
If you had to go to CAG selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course?
I’m 5’8” and 173lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
that makes sense!!
I heard somewhere in deltas there are thinking guys who happen can shoot, or swim or run. And also work alone. Seals are more action oriented and work in group like an unit. That is what I heard.
All Special Forces guys from around the world are great warriors. But, if we have to compare, I have heard from many sources within that community that Delta is a step above. That being said, they are all pretty amazing. It takes a lot to be in Special Forces of any kind.
My father hated when I asked who or which was better or stronger.
Lion vs tiger? He would respond, a big tiger and a little lion, or a big lion and a little tiger? Lol.
He would say, people follow orders and do what they’re trained to do.
How was better: Audie Murphy or Baselone (pho)?
Are the Marines better than the Army? He’d say, the Marines are trained for different tactics; Armies fight campaigns. 3rd Division in Korea. Highly decorated. Audie Murphy’s Company in that Division.
And his brother was a Marine from 1937-45. Graduated from 1st parachutist school. 3 Purple Hearts. 1 for a bayonet in the thigh at Guadalcanal in a battalion made up of 2 decimated parachutist and Raider battalions. Guadalcanal was his 3rd island in 2 days. After Purple Heart 3, he became a cadre at Pendleton to teach storm landings till be knocked out a 90-day-wonder 2nd Lt and let him float off in the Pacific. Lost 6 or 7 stripes, and busted was busted down to Corporal in 1944. Hit Okinawa via a submarine several hours before the attack. That was probably his 8th or 9th beach.
Parachutists were probably a little better trained than Rangers. That’s combat. He didn’t write a book. Wouldn’t even talk to my Dad till he had gotten out of Korea after his full tour in a combat zone.
The culture then was, you don’t talk about it.
He’s 100% correct.
This one bad dude😮
When they realize that me in that Balaclava isn't role playing.
So the Delta guys are the deadly trained nice guys and the 6 guys are the deadly trained jockey dickheads is what I’m hearing 😂 Love it ❤
you must be Army grunt. I didn't know there were nice guys in war. I want a mean and nasty one on my side.
@@deathfire096 We gotta know the difference between making the grass grow and not scaring local population 🤷♀
@@11bravo72 them Delta and Devgru are the wrong people for that.
@@deathfire096 Which one? Them making the grass grow or not scaring local population? Because I can tell you they are both versatile in what they do. Not like they are monsters. They have families just like everyone else.
@@11bravo72 Both are very similar. They are all part of JSOC.
Honestly the biggest difference is how the act and conduct themself. Not talking about Seal Team 6 ofc but "normal" Seals. You see all the guys talking about big beards though guy manly man guys talk. And then you have Delta Operators or SAS guys who just dont fit these despcriptions but are mostly QUIET badass people who do some crazy dangerous work and have no need to prove how big strong and tough they are.
We all know why ST6 is more physically imposing than CAG or the 24thSTS 🤫
yup finally someone with a brain. RRC is just like ST6
@@Devin183 In terms of percentage, guaranteed its no near as DEVGRU
@@johnkamot3237 That's 100% cap, a guy from RRC said RRC selection is module off of Delta selection.. And those guys are straight studs all look like body builders. If anything they have one of the hardest selection's and it's not a lot known about it.. Nor do anyone knows RRC fail percentage
@@Devin183 I was talking about the high steroid usage in Dev or the "regular" teams which makes them look imposing.
Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m from Arizona
What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a CAG assaulter? How does the Delta Force community feel about women joining them?
If you had to go to CAG selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course?
I’m 5’8” and 173lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
One difference is amount of book deals
the founder of Delta was the first one to write books. It's just lately SEALS have more popular books because of their missions and the ocean.
Doesn’t Delta have Seals in the mix as well?
Kevin Holland is the only publicly known operative to have served in both units
DELTA recruit from SEALs, not other way around. That in it self garners higher status, if am not mistaken.
"Killed more people than Malaria" Damn thats crazy🤣
The difference , Delta can blend in. ST6 , everyone is 6'4 and up tattoos, buff, they stick out, delta looks like hippies of all sizes.
If I talk with him i'll never know he ended guys life in an instant
Sometimes I wonder why I don't talk about my 11b leg days
Delta on land, SEALS in and on the water
like comstock said you have seal team six guys trying out for delta never delta trying out for seal team six.
Because they only accept navy, that's the reason
SEALs left John Chapman
Didn't they try to cover it up too? The book "Alone at Dawn" goes into it.
Interesting
anyone from the small unit exchanges sees this?
we need backup.
make it happen.
ITS NOT TRAINING
I coud write a book.
I thought Delta Force recruits from all branches?
Yeah… from an outsider the difference is cosmetic. I’ve worked with both of them, but I’m not one of them. To me the biggest difference is maritime vs terrestrial. ST6 is the best in blue water problems and Delta is best in everything else.
So you worked with them on CoD and Battlefield? Highly doubt you worked in direct support of either Tier 1 units.
Of course he never worked with them. Real spec op troops dont write comments on youtube ' oh look, im navy seal or delta or green beret' they are busy with other things in life. Lol. He is just a bot dreamer too much cod type idiot xddd
@Patrick K. Not true, during OIF, JSOC, had Ranger Batts attached with tier 1 units. See Chris VanZants SRS podcast. Buddy of mine from 2nd Ranger Batt was on that TF. They liked to call it the "Bagddhad SWAT"
@Patrick K You got me. I confess. 🤣🤣🤣
@@joshstiltner both units are trained for counterterrorism, hostage rescue, special reconnaissance, and direct action (short-duration strikes or small-scale offensive actions), on high-value targets. The main difference is combat diving . ALL ST6 must be combat divers qualified to be in Devgru. Only a few DELTAS are qualified combat divers. All the Army Special Forces that I talked to says Army Combat Diving school is the hardest qualification in the Army but only the minority in DELTA are trained for Combat Diving. All ST6 are Combat Divers. That's the main difference. You can't be in ST6 if you are not a combat diver. You can be in DELTA if you are not a combat diver.
I prefer ST6 for maritime and perhaps equally like them as a strike team for direct action where it’s just in and out but I’m not gonna lie that’s where it ends.
I think Delta has shown to be better suited to operate alone. Delta functions better independent, locked off from support or higher command for long periods of time. They are better at decision making, problem solving and often are more experienced. They are better at hostage rescue and scouting terrain. They are better at infiltration as civilians and to train other people.
From what I heard also better at working with other forces. Just like the sas, select from all different forces including seal team 6 and have a very diverse skill set and they all learn from each other which I see as a massive advantage.
They are a lot more secretive and from what i have heard have more funding. They also work closer to ISA and CIA than ST6 and are basically just SAS but with USA size funding.
Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m from Arizona.
What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a CAG assaulter? How does the Delta Force community feel about women joining them?
If you had to go to CAG selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course?
I’m 5’8” and 173lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
@@AwesomeWelles-cy8xg I prefer SEALs for maritime missions too. There's a reason why SEALs are a part of the Navy. Delta are probably good at what they do. I don't know but SEALs are badass. I'd trust a guy like Rob O'Neill anyday. He took out Bin Laden. Dude is alpha af.
Yes, that's because most delta guys were rangers or SF guys and in their training they are use to rucking miles alone in a isolated group. Whereas Seals are not use to rucking as much as those guys. They are more direct action where they are helicoptered into a target and do their work.
seal team 6 cant operate alone, Delta was designed to operate alone all by itself.devgru needs jsoc to operate and Delta is at an entirely different level than any other tier one unit. they all have the same attributes though and are all fucking WARRIORS! Delta recruits from all units for a reason and that is why they are so skilled. Devgru only recruits from navy so there is a lot of institutional inbreeding going on with their sop. hats off to all of them!
Delta can be activated via different modes. However, over the last 20 years, Delta has been operating through JSOC. I've seen the clip from McPhee you're referencing. You're right, but most of the missions you know about Delta during the GWOT were with JSOC. They're a huge part of JSOC though.
One of the reason Devgru only recruits from the Naval Special Forces (SEALS/EOD) is all of them are qualified Combat Divers and years in the Naval Special Warfare community doing deployments. Making the teams tight. Only a small % in the Army are Combat Divers and is not mandatory to be a SF or Delta. Combat Diving is the hardest qualification in the Army but only a small % in the Army are. Different philosophies. DEVGRU in my opinion are a tighter team because they have been in the same community together for years. DELTA recruits from different communities, that doesn't mean they will be tight together on their 1 first deployment since all communities are different with their own history and heritage. Hats to both but water is a deal breaker for many. I can be Navy for years in 1 community and they put me with the Army which is a totally different community and in the first or 2 deployments it won't be tight for a while.
There are former DevGru operators flying for the Night Stalkers. SEALs, nor Raiders/Recon have dedicated aviation assetts. Navy primarily looks at war from a carrier-based Battle Group/Force & Strike Force or USMC ARG/MAG paradigm. Although they did use the USS Kitty Hawk as a JSOC/SF platform, after 9/11. All JSOC/Tier 1 uses the Army's 160th, by default. Army's own GB doesn't get them, by default. All that inbreeding nonsense you're spewing; nah, it's about operating in cold water. It takes someone special to keep their body functioning at the brink of hypothermia, for hrs-long transits to/from tics. SDV operators fuctioning for 10hrs unprotected from the cold is a feat that those whom have passed selection would be hard-pressed to accomplish. If you've ever been in a cold ocean, you'd know that swimming 6 miles, with all of your pack, as an SOP is not something a human being can do by 'winging-it.' Few warriors can do that.
Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m from Arizona
What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a CAG assaulter? How does the Delta Force community feel about women joining them?
If you had to go to CAG selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course?
I’m 5’8” and 173lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
I feel like they use different size guys for different situations tho.. You aren’t having a massive 250lb dude climbing on the side of ships ya know. Basically what I feel like he was saying prob on the teams and Delta is that way. 165lb guys are quick obviously they’re not gonna take a big dude 1’on1’but they play there role
I'd rather have delta save my ass than devgru but they'd both get it done. And delta come from many different backgrounds as opposed to seals. Seals have been seals since they completed buds. Delta come from rangers, SF, rangers then SF, regular infantry, EOD, ECT ect. And you can kinda tell from most public pictures of them that seals probably usually hit the gym more but that really doesn't matter up to a point and can hinder you in the long run
Seals are more fit because all are Combat Divers and swim a lot. Doesn't matter which branch trains them as long that they are trained to do the mission. You are not even a SEAL after BUDS, that's how long of a pipeline and training they get.
in addition CAG is way better if you want to do a training mission/ train indigs and trhy can still perform typical grunt assignments due to the background of the majority of their personnel
Silly. Both are trained for counterterrorism, hostage rescue, special reconnaissance, and direct action (short-duration strikes or small-scale offensive actions), on high-value targets. The difference is the water. All ST6 are trained combat divers while DELTA is only a few since being in the FLEET is not their main job requirement.
@@deathfire096 Devgru don't have a selection process like CAG....they have green team, but it's not the same.....what needs to happen is both groups need to do the same selection the same as 22SAS and SBS....I've even heard ex Devgru guys say the same thing....
@@nickjohnson710 both selections are the hardest in their branches. Both are Tier 1 under JSOC. The main difference is ALL SEALS have to be Combat Divers Qualified. No exceptions, ALL. To be in Delta.SF or Rangers is not mandatory for all since only a small community in the Special Forces in the Army are Combat Divers. You can be a DELTA without being a Combat Diver. You can't in ST6. That's the hardest qualification in the ARMY so you know how tougher is in the Navy.
@@deathfire096 I heard green team selection is basically who you know, and that's how you get through,it's not the same as delta selection.....but am not saying one is better than the other....
@@nickjohnson710 you heard? LOL. Although much of the training and recruitment is classified, there are some requirements and training exercises that are now public knowledge. The requirements to apply for DEVGRU states that applicants must be male, be 21 years old or older, have served at least 2 deployments on their previous assignments, and be eligible for Secret clearance. Candidates come from the East/West Coast SEAL teams, SEAL Delivery Vehicle (SDV) teams, the Special Boat teams (for Gray Squadron), the Navy explosive ordnance disposal (EOD) teams, and Navy SARCs. Enlisted candidates must be in the pay grades of E-4 through E-8 and Officer candidates need to be O-3 through O-4 to apply. Candidates must undergo physical screening, psychological testing and are then interviewed to deem whether they are suitable for assignment to NSWDG.Those who pass the stringent recruitment process will attend an eight-month selection and training course with the unit's training department known as "Green Team". The training course attrition rate is high, usually around 50%; during one selection course, out of the original 20 candidates, 12 completed the course. All candidates are watched closely by DEVGRU instructors and evaluated on whether they are suitable to join the individual squadrons. Howard E. Wasdin, a former member of SEAL Team Six said in a 2011 interview that 16 applied for SEAL Team Six selection course and two were accepted.Those who do not pass the selection phase are returned to their previous assignments and are able to try again in the future. Candidates are put through a variety of advanced training courses led by civilian or military instructors. These can include free climbing, land warfare, advanced unarmed combat techniques, defensive and offensive advanced driving, advanced diving, communications and Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape training. Candidates are also taught how to pick locks on cars, doors, and safes. All candidates must perform at the top level during selection, and the unit instructors evaluate the candidate during the training process. Selected candidates are assigned to one of the Tactical Development and Evaluation Squadrons. Unlike regular SEAL Teams, SEAL Team Six operators can attend almost any other military course to receive further training depending on the unit's requirements.
Like Delta Force, live-fire marksmanship drills in both long-range and close-quarter battle drills are done with hostage roles being played by other students to help build the candidates' trust between each other.
DEVGRU regularly trains and operates with special forces units from other countries such as the British Special Air Service and Special Boat Service, Australia's Special Air Service Regiment and 2nd Commando Regiment, Israel's Shayetet 13 and Canada's Joint Task Force 2
Like all special operations forces units that have an extremely intensive and high-risk training schedule, there can be serious injuries and deaths. SEAL Team Six/DEVGRU has lost several operators during training, including parachute accidents and close-quarters battle training accidents. It is presumed that the unit's assessment process for potential new recruits is different from what a SEAL operator experienced in his previous career, and much of the training tests the candidate's mental capacity rather than his physical condition. Every candidate chosen will have already completed their respective advanced training pipelines; Basic Underwater Demolitions/SEAL training, the Special Warfare Combatant-Craft Crewman training, Special Amphibious Reconnaissance Corpsman training, the Navy EOD training or Navy Dive School.
I wanna get him drunk a hear the real laser story.
As an American citizen…I’m glad we have both. I don’t care whose biggest, baddest or fittest. These guys have an “it” factor and I’m glad that 1% exists. But…I’m also glad we have SF, “normal” SEAL teams, Rangers, MARSOC, CCT and PJ’s. I just wish those bureaucratic weineys in DC would let those guys be who they are
We celebrate the SF/SW SOCOMM community so much and really REALLY under appreciate out conventional forces servicemen and servicewomen. I felt this great pride toward these under celebrated forces so much more when I take my kids to museums like Cantigny Park BIG RED ONE (1st Army Division) museum or Groton Submarine Base Museum. Both museums have multiple CMH's displayed which are a reminder 99.9% of the load is on these conventional forces, that bleed without the notoriety. Our ENTIRE military is the cream of the crop.
back in desert storm I wrestled an SAS dude & he handled me easily..I was 6 ft 190 he was 5 9 & 160 soaking wet .we became friends..he smoked & could handle most dudes rather easily..tough little bastard..john from Blackpool I hope you are ok .
Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m from Arizona.
What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a CAG assaulter? How does the Delta Force community feel about women joining them?
If you had to go to CAG selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course?
I’m 5’8” and 173lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
ST6 are Sailors with lack infantry skills. DELTAS are battle hardened Army SF and Rangers.
SEAL = SEA, AIR, LAND. They get plenty of infantry training with lots of toys since BUDS and you are not even a SEAL after BUDS. It's a long pipeline and that's not including Green Team for ST6. You can't be in ST6 if you lack land skills or weapon skills. The difference is that ALL SEALS are Combat Divers. Only a small % in the Army are and Combat Diver is the hardest qualification in the Army.........Infantry means ground combat. What part of LAND in the SEAL name you don't get.
@@deathfire096ALL SOCOM units that do direct action are trained to operate on sea, air and land. That is not exclusive to SEALs.
Different branches focus more on different things. Infantry doesn’t just mean ground combat. You show your own ignorance when you say that. There are specialized skills that go into being a real infantryman.
SEALs don’t get anywhere near as good infantry training as real infantry units do especially since the majority of of SEAL training is focused on maritime warfare. There are no infantry schools or infantry units in the navy.
The reality of the matter is SEAL teams don’t put much emphasis on land warfare outside the shoothouse. When SEALs are taught “infantry” skills they are most of the time taught by other SEALs who have little to no infantry background.
Compare that with the us army who has over a dozen infantry brigades. A brigade is about 3000 to 5000 soldiers.
The us army has multiple infantry and infantry related schools. There’s infantry basic training, infantry AIT, infantry ALC and infantry SLC for infantry NCO’s. Ranger school is an infantry school since it focuses on small unit tactics leadership and patrolling under food and sleep deprivation. Other army infantry related patrol courses include SFQC, RSLC (formerly LRSLC), etc.
SEALs don’t start learning small unit tactics until 3rd phase of BUDs. All army and marine infantry privates start learning SUT in their entry level training (called OSUT in the army) before arriving at their first duty station.
The Hollywood description of SEAL capabilities (that they are as good or better than the army or marines on land) only works for people who never actually served or done their due diligence. You are not going to have the same level of proficiency on land when you spend the majority of your training in and around water.
You literally go on every RUclips page where a retired CAG soldier is interviewed, and as soon as something is stated about your infallible ST6 guys that you don’t like, you lash out. And most of your comments about the army when you comment are falsehoods. For you to say ST6 can do land warfare CT and HR as good as Delta while being superior on water, what you’re basically saying is Delta brings no specialized capabilities to the fight on land. And that’s obviously false.
Army and marine units dominate land warfare. Navy units dominate littoral warfare. Air Force units dominate the air although army CAG is best trained for HR on a plane.
Next thing your gonna say is SEALs do FID and UW as good or better than green berets since NSW occasionally dabbles in those things.
@@sgedeon01 oh my God what Dick. SEAls are specialized military unit that is highly trained and operate in small detachments. They are a rapid deploying force they can deploy to a mission quickly as needed. Army infantry it’s just basic Army grunts, soldier.
Astronomical in terms of training pipeline and individual capability SEALs are special operators which means they have all the standard “infantry-like” skills an Army infantryman has plus an advanced infantry, small unit tactics skill set. SEALs are also all freefall, diver, demolitions, SERE, cold-weather etc, etc, trained. Regular army infantry are not. The most basic SEAL entry course, BUD/s is 6 months long and has an extremely high attrition rate because of how hard it is. Army infantry AIT is not nearly that long. Army grunts will get their job done and make the enemy eat some lead, but SEALs are just fewer, have a harder training and deployment program, and are more advanced and specialized.
The skinny little 18 year old bald guys, the Army of None's and the SF Dudes are much better at digging fox holes with grenade sumps and interlocking fields of fire than any SEAL Team guy would ever want to be. Good on them. SF’s (love them) were definitely better at doing Army Infranty tactics stuff than SEALs or any private snuffy fresh out of AIT. They can set up a FOB like nobody else and they bring all the Gucci gear since they do it every other week. None of those weenies (not SF) will ever be involved in taking over a ship from the water line or removing shitbirds that have taken over an gas/oil platform in the Persian gulf.
SEALs is not to dig in and defend the beaches or stand watch on the perimeter of the base. It's called the Point of the Spear. It is not the shaft nor the shield.
Gunfights? ... Go find out how well MARSOC did during their deployment to AFG in ~2012/3?. Got so many guys killed that they were shut down and not allowed to do any more operations.
If you bother to look at Devgru unclassified missions at JSOC, you would know that they are a lot more than water warfare. The rest of your bs is too long and too funny.
I'll put any SEAL silly little shooting skills up against any unit at any time with any beer. You are nothing more than a fox digging hole Army Grunt wanna be.
@@deathfire096like I said almost all of your comments have been falsehoods. There are no formal infantry schools in the navy to teach “advanced infantry tactics.” And you can’t name any either like I did for the army.
SEALs small unit tactics skills range from terrible to mediocre. Small unit tactics are infantry tactics conducted at the squad and platoon level. I doubt you could even name what light infantry tactics are.
As far as shooting goes NSW has never won USASOC sniper competition and rarely have they ever placed in the top five whenever they participated. Delta usually wins when they participate although they performed much much lower than expected this year. They still outshot the SEAL team that participated this year though. If NSW is the best at shooting why don’t they ever win and rarely ever place to five?
NSW is only super elite to the rest of the navy. That’s why.
You’re unhinged, obsessed with ST6, and have to make stuff up because you refuse to believe the fallibility of your heroes.
@@deathfire096the Marsoc incident happened in 07, and was a complete lie. They've more than proven themselves as a capable asset in SOCOM.
I have known 3 rangers... all big as crap. You think the smaller body is what they are looking for in delta?
Jacked dudes have a really hard time during Delta selection and many times they fail due to the insane endurance required just to meet the time standards.
Pretty much what Dale Comstock said...
Dale is a clown
Doing a Delta Force video in a Snuggie 😂
SEALs write more books. I joke, I joke, I kid, I kid, if I offend, I'm sorry, please, please forgive!
I also think, just from what I have seen, is that Delta is more unassuming. A lot of SEALs just look like effin SEALs, take Jocko for example, he is what I would picture if someone just said "picture a SEAL" or if you asked AI to make a SEAL, it would just make Jocko. Delta could look like the quiet 150 lb kid in class, and he can kill 3 men in a bar with a pencil.
Love reading the comments 😂.... 🐉🐸
SF are not yellers and have a "Dad Look" that tells you not to do that. Squeals [Life Guards] will yell at you for running around the pool and have cool hair and sun glasses. [I might be biased] The difference is in OpSec. One you know is there the other you miss unless you're looking for them.
HR is Devs bread and butter too so……
Water is the biggest separation from the 2 🌊 Delta land Navy 💦
I wouldn’t mess with either, but Delta are pretty tough hombres who keep their mouths shut.
if they did you wouldn't be here talking about Delta.
He must not know about the smurfs.
If ya know ya know